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MBL users out there?
« on: February 12, 2011, 18:54 »
Hi all, happy CNY to all.

I've just added the MBL Dac 1511f to my system and I've been very pleased with it. The sound upgrade has been amazing. I find myself listening to music so much more now. Not that it was bad to begin with but it's so much smoother now with a wide and very deep soundstage. My average listening session easily stretches beyond an hour now and the appreciation and enjoyment is so much better.

My current audio system as follows

Cd player: Copland 289 (used as transport now)
Media streamer: Popcorn hour c200
Dac: MBL 1511F
Preamp: Plinius M16
Amp: MBL 8011AM mono blocks
Speakers: Harbeth SHL 5

Am tempted to swap my preamp for MBL as well. But really happy where I am for now.

I can't seem to find much discussion on MBL here in this forum. Wondering if other users can share their experience on MBL products?

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« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2011, 20:13 »
Yeah heard great reviews on mbl but seems few owners on this forum I think. In fact am keen to know if anyone owns the 101e speaker which I intend to get for my future future future upgrade :)  May I know how much u got for your 1511 n monos?

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« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2011, 21:22 »
Coherence Audio have their own community down there. I see a lot of owners popping by just to chat with Ron or amongst themselves or spin an CD or 2 on their reference system.

Not sure about their electronics but I do like their omni speakers- v wide sweet spot to boot- would be perfect for HT, albeit a v ex one.

If only I had the funds and the space!!

... Actually having said that, go and have a look at the photos showing the size of their customers rooms with their setup. Surprisingly they are using these massive spkrs in a very small room! Apparently the omni design is less sensitive to room acoustic issues- pretty hard to believe personally speaking.


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« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2011, 23:31 »
Cool, am in love with radial omni sound n am sure my next pair will be 101 mkii, do you have any idea how much they sell in sg?

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« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2011, 20:52 »
The 101s are indeed amazing. But they need to be driven by high current amps. I don't believe my present amps can do the job well.

So far, I like what I am hearing from my Harbeths so no urgent upgrade itch yet :)

For prices, you should check with Ron from Coherence. I'm not related to him but he's a great guy to talk to.

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« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2011, 21:11 »
Need to move larger home first before getting 101e :) will play with my g.physiks for the time being

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« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2011, 21:49 »
You'd be surprised at the number of people who use 101s in small spaces  :P. Apparently, its one of the few speakers who don't boom easily.

Anyway, how's your German Physiks? They're omnis too right? 

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« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2011, 22:16 »
The GP opens my ears to different concept, am now so used to radial sound that I find it very hard for me to fall back to conventional. My friends got poisoned too n can't take pinpoint sound source anymore. Anyway, it's to personal likings. :)

Yeah saw lots of small room setup for giant speakers nowadays, in my opinion I prefer a larger room for them to breathe, looks nicer too :) 101E will look great in big room, just worried once suck into mbl it's gonna be mbl lines of products for matching.. Anyone driving the 101E with other amps?

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« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2011, 09:16 »
Haha. You're right about the MBL line - they do sound better if used together. I'm sticking to theNoble range for now. Reference line is just too much $$$$. The radial speakers will likely be my next speaker upgrade.

The high current Mc amps seem to be a popular choice for MBL speakers in the Audiogon forum.

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« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2011, 09:22 »
Just got reply from mbl USA, they giving 40% off on 8011,5011 n7006 from their retail price. Did ur 8011 priced better in SG?

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« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2019, 05:13 »
Excellent chat with Jürgen Reis, absolute must watch  :)

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« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2019, 16:30 »
I'm a happy owner of Preamplifier mbl 6010 D  ;D.
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« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2019, 21:27 »
Excellent chat with Jürgen Reis, absolute must watch  :)


Yes, quite fascinating.  Seems like a thorough approach to design, especially the parts pertaining to CD transports / DACs and how vibration affects so many things.  Also, not all parts that measure the same sound the same :)

Like the bit about the initial 95% of the design being done using measurements and the last 5% by ear to achieve a “house” and not absolute sound.  And, the “house” sound evolves over the years.



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« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2019, 21:30 »
I'm a happy owner of Preamplifier mbl 6010 D  ;D.

Are you using a full mbl system?

There are a number of mbl owners in Singapore, including the watermelons. Not many participate in the forums though. Probably too immersed in the music ...

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« Reply #14 on: April 06, 2019, 08:21 »
I'm a happy owner of Preamplifier mbl 6010 D  ;D.

Nice!!! One of those totally understated brands in Singapore... Probably a reflection of the old-style dealership (does Coherence even have a website?  ;D).
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« Reply #15 on: April 06, 2019, 08:25 »
Yes, quite fascinating.  Seems like a thorough approach to design...

Jürgen is one of the (probably) less than handful of Manufacturers who can articulate his design principles without any marketing BS. ;)
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« Reply #16 on: April 06, 2019, 11:04 »
Are you using a full mbl system?

There are a number of mbl owners in Singapore, including the watermelons. Not many participate in the forums though. Probably too immersed in the music ...

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« Reply #17 on: April 06, 2019, 11:06 »
Nice!!! One of those totally understated brands in Singapore... Probably a reflection of the old-style dealership (does Coherence even have a website?  ;D).

Website... not sure about it
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« Reply #18 on: April 06, 2019, 12:01 »
There are many many many mbl users in Singapore. Many do not participate in forum
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« Reply #19 on: April 06, 2019, 14:18 »
Nice!!! One of those totally understated brands in Singapore... Probably a reflection of the old-style dealership (does Coherence even have a website?  ;D).

No website and they don’t advertise (at least not now). Don’t think their client base expects or requires an online presence

At least they have proper demo systems and rooms and, from my experience, quite friendly and attentive.

Compared to other high end dealers, their pricing is competitive vis-a-vis the German RRP.


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« Reply #20 on: April 07, 2019, 06:52 »
There are many many many mbl users in Singapore. Many do not participate in forum

The only significant one I can recall participating in Forums was John Lim (aka Powerman?) on Echoloft… IIRC, he had a full MBL Reference line.


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At least they have proper demo systems and rooms and, from my experience, quite friendly and attentive.
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The one and only time I've walked in was I think about a decade ago to listen to the 101s... they were nice enough  :)
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« Reply #21 on: April 07, 2019, 11:38 »
MBL is a understated brand in SG ? If there wasn’t many or at least enough customers buying from the local dealer, don’t think they would be able to sustain for such a long time in Adelphi having so many units of showroom overheads.

Even though I agree that having a website is the most convenient and effective way of promoting and advertising, it is not a must. So long as the manufacturer maintain  a decent website with the necessary info and international dealership contacts is sufficient.

I rather have a dealer without website giving good service and reasonable prices than the other way round.



Nice!!! One of those totally understated brands in Singapore... Probably a reflection of the old-style dealership (does Coherence even have a website?  ;D).
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« Reply #22 on: April 07, 2019, 12:10 »
The mbl.de website is not easy to navigate ...

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« Reply #23 on: April 07, 2019, 12:21 »
It’s not the best designed website but I don’t find it difficult to navigate.
What’s your difficulties ?

The mbl.de website is not easy to navigate ...
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« Reply #24 on: April 07, 2019, 12:46 »
Hard to place a finger on it but it doesn’t    quite encourage one to explore, to discover more about their products.

If you don’t find it difficult to navigate, then good for you.

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« Reply #25 on: April 07, 2019, 17:43 »
MBL is a understated brand in SG ?
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Guess people don’t really know the meaning of the word “understated”... Here, let me help you with the Oxford Dictionary definition :)

understated
/ˌʌndəˈstəɪtɪd/

adjective
   1   presented or expressed in a subtle and effective way.
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« Reply #26 on: April 07, 2019, 19:15 »
Guess people don’t really know the meaning of the word “understated”... Here, let me help you with the Oxford Dictionary definition :)

understated
/ˌʌndəˈstəɪtɪd/

adjective
   1   presented or expressed in a subtle and effective way.

American English is a bit different from British English.
I believe the dictionary you refereed is The New Oxford American English.


According to OED 2.0

understated, ppl. a.

(stress variable)

[under-1 10 a. Cf. understate v.]

a.a Stated below what is adequate or sufficient; that understates the truth.
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b.b Of clothes, appearance, etc.: unemphasized, modest; designed not to attract undue attention. Cf. quiet a. 2 b.
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Addendum

I have checked on Oxford Living Dictionary and it's the same as The New Oxford American English Dictionary. So I guess , the definition of the word is shifting nonetheless it is not in OED ( Oxford English Dictionary ).
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« Reply #27 on: April 07, 2019, 19:56 »
Only in Singapore,  lift at public housing doesn't stop at ground floor but 1st floor ;D

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« Reply #28 on: April 08, 2019, 10:05 »
The only significant one I can recall participating in Forums was John Lim (aka Powerman?) on Echoloft… IIRC, he had a full MBL Reference line.


Wah... good memory... apart from that, Coherence really have very very good service!!!
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Analog all the way...

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« Reply #29 on: April 08, 2019, 12:52 »
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Addendum

I have checked on Oxford Living Dictionary and it's the same as The New Oxford American English Dictionary. So I guess , the definition of the word is shifting nonetheless it is not in OED ( Oxford English Dictionary ).

Hahaha… living up to your name eh…


Wah... good memory... apart from that, Coherence really have very very good service!!!

 ;)... no doubt.
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« Reply #30 on: April 10, 2019, 08:39 »
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