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Re: Power Cable Recommendations for Classé Int. Amplifier
« Reply #15 on: April 20, 2020, 09:29 »
I have a used but in excellent condition Sine S30A for sale if you are keen.

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« Reply #16 on: April 20, 2020, 11:39 »
Tip: if you’re keen, contact them to see if they still have the EOL older Elementa series. I bought mine new “old stock” under their EOL promo. Good value.


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Am ruling out the Plixir option at the moment as this system is not in SG. Likewise for any new or used purchases within SG for now. Greatly appreciate the advice and offers.
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« Reply #17 on: April 20, 2020, 22:58 »
Iirc plixir ship overseas too. They do a fair bit of overseas orders.

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Re: Power Cable Recommendations for Classé Int. Amplifier
« Reply #19 on: April 21, 2020, 20:09 »
if your budget allows, you could also consider a power re-generator, like the ones made by PS Audio. I think the entry level model is about SGD3K:

https://sg.carousell.com/p/ps-audio-stella-p3-regenerator-227795939/?t-id=4038835_1587367632743&t-referrer_browse_type=search_results&t-referrer_request_id=ERlVoUAwDq8YRWux&t-referrer_search_query=ps%20audio%20stella&t-referrer_sort_by=popular

thanks for sharing. Yes, for long term this may be an option which I am considering at the moment. Hence, one step at a time, will start upgrading the wall socket to test the effect, before considering an upgrade of the power conditioner/re-generator and subsequently cables.
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Re: Power Cable Recommendations for Classé Int. Amplifier
« Reply #20 on: April 25, 2020, 09:39 »
I would do upgrades of any cable in moderation.
Sit down and question yourself, if I were to throw that cable and sell it to a karang guni man will he offer you $5
for it?.
In the HiFi world of made believe most Audiophiles are Suckers.
It's all in the mine. I have a customer who demanded that I get for him the most expensive cables. Not a $40 one but a few hundred dollar pieces.
Cause he thinks that the higher the price of cable the better it is.
You got Morons who spend $23K per half meter on a power cable. Yes! $23K.
Just one length what about the other equipment?. Don't they deserve power cables like that? I would spend on a new equipment than on cables.
Being Neutral without seeing or paying the best is a Blind test between cables or any other( Can be those footers or any high price gimmicks) That will settle the matter. Go on to YouTube there are a lot on these topics.
Understand Science electrics how cables behave.
I do not say there is no difference, there is. The simple test get a length of Black/Red cord cable (20 cents/meter)
Get length of Hifi cables. The sound change is so obvious the cord cable is so Bass heavy( Good for old school boy speakers) compared to the HiFi cable.
Do not go over board or be a Sucker, spend at a moderate level at a price point everything above that has diminishing returns.
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« Reply #21 on: April 25, 2020, 12:23 »
Yeah,  should do a A-B test with 1kW electric kettle power cord. If the kettle PC sound the same or better, then you know what to do...

Having said that, there is merit to well made shielded PC, as it would reduce radiation during peak current demand. The radiation can potentially be picked up at the line level interconnects; or poorly shielded source(s) / pre-amp.

I don’t do phono, but for those who do, it becomes even more important because of the super low voltages of the cartridges.

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« Reply #22 on: April 29, 2020, 13:28 »
I would do upgrades of any cable in moderation.
Sit down and question yourself, if I were to throw that cable and sell it to a karang guni man will he offer you $5
for it?.
In the HiFi world of made believe most Audiophiles are Suckers.
It's all in the mine. I have a customer who demanded that I get for him the most expensive cables. Not a $40 one but a few hundred dollar pieces.
Cause he thinks that the higher the price of cable the better it is.
You got Morons who spend $23K per half meter on a power cable. Yes! $23K.
Just one length what about the other equipment?. Don't they deserve power cables like that? I would spend on a new equipment than on cables.
Being Neutral without seeing or paying the best is a Blind test between cables or any other( Can be those footers or any high price gimmicks) That will settle the matter. Go on to YouTube there are a lot on these topics.
Understand Science electrics how cables behave.
I do not say there is no difference, there is. The simple test get a length of Black/Red cord cable (20 cents/meter)
Get length of Hifi cables. The sound change is so obvious the cord cable is so Bass heavy( Good for old school boy speakers) compared to the HiFi cable.
Do not go over board or be a Sucker, spend at a moderate level at a price point everything above that has diminishing returns.
Watch below on YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoVixorZTDM

Happy Listening Stay Safe.

Trying to do that and have upgrades one step at a time. Reading up certainly helps to widen my horizons and go deeper into this hobby. Thank you for the wise words and you too, stay safe.
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Re: Power Cable Recommendations for Classé Int. Amplifier
« Reply #23 on: April 29, 2020, 13:36 »
Yeah,  should do a A-B test with 1kW electric kettle power cord. If the kettle PC sound the same or better, then you know what to do...

Having said that, there is merit to well made shielded PC, as it would reduce radiation during peak current demand. The radiation can potentially be picked up at the line level interconnects; or poorly shielded source(s) / pre-amp.

I don’t do phono, but for those who do, it becomes even more important because of the super low voltages of the cartridges.

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Did A-B test on 3 cables, rice cooker power cable, a fake furutech cable and the acoustics synergy monster powerline 400 signature. The acoustics synergy cable is day and night difference to the other 2.
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« Reply #24 on: April 29, 2020, 14:09 »
Did A-B test on 3 cables, rice cooker power cable, a fake furutech cable and the acoustics synergy monster powerline 400 signature. The acoustics synergy cable is day and night difference to the other 2.

Well done! You've found a cable that you like.
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Re: Power Cable Recommendations for Classé Int. Amplifier
« Reply #25 on: April 29, 2020, 15:58 »
wow u just dispelled the cable snake oil argument! Congrats...

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« Reply #26 on: April 29, 2020, 20:51 »
Well done! You've found a cable that you like.

Actually am trying to upgrade from this cable 😂
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« Reply #27 on: April 29, 2020, 20:57 »
wow u just dispelled the cable snake oil argument! Congrats...

I guess everyone has different sensitivity to different things in life. It took me more than 20years to develop my current basic awareness on sonic differences.
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« Reply #28 on: April 30, 2020, 12:29 »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoVixorZTDM

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« Reply #29 on: April 30, 2020, 14:55 »


there is an important point that he repeated several times in the video.... shielding, shielded cables,...and I fully agree!


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