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Re: HDMI discussion thread - including new developments & 1.4
« Reply #90 on: January 07, 2012, 14:20 »
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Re: HDMI discussion thread - including new developments & 1.4
« Reply #91 on: January 11, 2012, 00:56 »
here we go again HDMI ver2 in 6 months time ;D
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Re: HDMI discussion thread - including new developments & 1.4
« Reply #92 on: January 18, 2012, 23:39 »
HDMI can be as unpredictable as a woman... stick things in the wrong sequence and you don't get things turned on...

Using the wrong version (the current one is High Speed aka 1.4) and you won't get an image either...

Using some propriety system like Viera and she doesn't like it either.

So to trouble shoot your HDMI chain, try various combinations of switching on the equipment
Make sure your cables are up to date
If it is a long connection, use better cables

And be a little circumspect about the differences in HDMI cables too. Make sure the volumes are equalised before making claims about sonic improvements as differences in the levels can be interpreted as improvements...


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Re: HDMI discussion thread - including new developments & 1.4
« Reply #93 on: January 19, 2012, 08:48 »
HDMI can be as unpredictable as a woman... stick things in the wrong sequence and you don't get things turned on...

i choked on my breakfast when i read this. funny ;D

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Re: HDMI discussion thread - including new developments & 1.4
« Reply #94 on: July 15, 2012, 12:51 »
HDMI can be as unpredictable as a woman... stick things in the wrong sequence and you don't get things turned on...

Using the wrong version (the current one is High Speed aka 1.4) and you won't get an image either...

Using some propriety system like Viera and she doesn't like it either.

So to trouble shoot your HDMI chain, try various combinations of switching on the equipment
Make sure your cables are up to date
If it is a long connection, use better cables


Also there is a bit of HDMI cable voodoo when turning things on.
Usually I turn on the amp, the TV then the player... otherwise you need to switch inputs then come back to the original for things to be set right..
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Re: HDMI discussion thread - including new developments & 1.4
« Reply #95 on: July 15, 2012, 13:47 »
I do the opposite, TV then BDP follow by the Amp.  When turning off, Amp, BDP and then TV.  So far, no problem with syn!

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I do the opposite, TV then BDP follow by the Amp.  When turning off, Amp, BDP and then TV.  So far, no problem with syn!

I think as long as it works...the sequence of startup doesn't matter. :)

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Re: HDMI discussion thread - including new developments & 1.4
« Reply #97 on: July 15, 2012, 19:26 »
The other thing is HDMI cables and the input sockets do not like to be put under stress. Then problems will occur.

So if you are bending or flexing the cable hard, get a less stiff cable or consider an extender like this:
(make sure it is also HDMI 1.4)

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0069A6K6I/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i01
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Re: HDMI discussion thread - including new developments & 1.4
« Reply #98 on: July 31, 2012, 22:42 »
After reading this thread I still do not quite understand how I can get perfect 3D picture on my newly acquired Sony HW30 and Oppo 95 without a cable switch. I was lamenting the chore to change cables and was surprised my existing 22AWG cable from monoprice works.  It is what one will call a standard cable as opposed to a high speed one needed for 3D? I am wondering if I should still change cable as I may be missing out on something.  Is it because I am not using an AV amp and that is why the standard cable still work?

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Re: HDMI discussion thread - including new developments & 1.4
« Reply #99 on: August 01, 2012, 08:19 »
As long as your cable is v1.3 and above, they can do 3d already.
High speed maybe required if your cable length stretch longer.

Normal cable even with high speed required higher gauge cable which in turn become very stff and small bending radius. If you are planning to change your cable for whatever reason, try out the monoprice new breed of cables with Redmere. Even at 28awg it can stretch up to 16m. There will be 42awg and 32awg cables which is something like your keyboard or mouse cable.

Real or not, i'm not sure but the signal test from normal hdmi cable and cable with Redmere shows significant difference. Whether it can be seen by our bare eyes is another issue, maybe some bro here with special eyes can detect the difference even with a slight color difference?

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Re: HDMI discussion thread - including new developments & 1.4
« Reply #100 on: January 25, 2013, 03:21 »
Hi! Wow I believe I have found someone that can help me finally... Mr. Pete the rock or anyone else, After 4 years of getting parts I am ready to enter the higher end audio world! I have a 7.1 Infinity Beta speaker setup with the hps1000 sub and I got a crazy deal this week for two nice receivers (I think) The Harman AVR7550HD (retail 3K) and the Lexicon RV-8 (retail 7K) for $2000 total. The 7550hd has HDMI, audyssey, all the HD decoding, and two 32 bit Texas Instrument Aureus processors. The Lexicon which im guessing is better has two sharc hammerhead processors but no hdmi. I haven't seen anything that would get hd sound to the Lexicon, could I send pre-out's from the 7550hd to the lexicon analog in's? Looks like it's a 7.1 but only 5.1 possibility with analog in? Any work arounds or ideas? And then I don't know where the processing starts and ends and if I could somehow frankenstein these two together? Any thoughts or opinions would be amazing!!! I wanna try the Lexicon but would I be sacrificing too much in the way of HD sound? I will probably find out I need to buy more equipment haha. THANKS SO VERY MUCH IF YOU CAN HELP

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Re: HDMI discussion thread - including new developments & 1.4
« Reply #101 on: January 25, 2013, 06:44 »
Hi! Wow I believe I have found someone that can help me finally... Mr. Pete the rock or anyone else, After 4 years of getting parts I am ready to enter the higher end audio world! I have a 7.1 Infinity Beta speaker setup with the hps1000 sub and I got a crazy deal this week for two nice receivers (I think) The Harman AVR7550HD (retail 3K) and the Lexicon RV-8 (retail 7K) for $2000 total. The 7550hd has HDMI, audyssey, all the HD decoding, and two 32 bit Texas Instrument Aureus processors. The Lexicon which im guessing is better has two sharc hammerhead processors but no hdmi. I haven't seen anything that would get hd sound to the Lexicon, could I send pre-out's from the 7550hd to the lexicon analog in's? Looks like it's a 7.1 but only 5.1 possibility with analog in? Any work arounds or ideas? And then I don't know where the processing starts and ends and if I could somehow frankenstein these two together? Any thoughts or opinions would be amazing!!! I wanna try the Lexicon but would I be sacrificing too much in the way of HD sound? I will probably find out I need to buy more equipment haha. THANKS SO VERY MUCH IF YOU CAN HELP

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The Lexicon is a 2004 AV amp, and if you think having 2 Sharc DSP chips is a big deal, the 4311 has 2 as well. For 2k I would suggest you consider a newer model with Audyssey or one of the other auto-eq systems, especially since you are a novice at this.
The amps in this are potentially better,  but in your case, I don't really think these are big bargains, if you are keen on HT. You will need a lot of effort to setup them up.

The Harman AVR7550HD maybe a better option with HDMI 1.3 built in. I wouldn't try to combine the two. If HT is important, the auto-setup function is essential for newbies, unless you are willing to spend time and effort to calibrate yourself.

Read the manuals, and our stickies and make use of the search button, as there is a lot posted in our forum already.

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Re: HDMI discussion thread - including new developments & 1.4
« Reply #102 on: February 24, 2013, 01:31 »
Hi, I'm a newbie in HT setup. Would like to find out will a good quality HDMI cable improve picture n sound quality? Thanks

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Re: HDMI discussion thread - including new developments & 1.4
« Reply #103 on: February 24, 2013, 08:10 »
IMO the key is signal degradation.. So for short lengths most cables are fine, but if you are running 10 m or so, get a better one. Monoprice is good value, and Aiborg is quite popular too. See the sales thread for people who can supply them to you.
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Re: HDMI discussion thread - including new developments & 1.4
« Reply #104 on: February 25, 2013, 01:32 »
Thanks for the advice. Means if running in short length (2m), a $20 and $200 HDMI cable wouldn't make a difference?