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Re: Coffee discussion
« Reply #30 on: May 18, 2010, 08:25 »
The Nespresso capsules should be cheaper soon as the patent expires and people other than Nestle should be able to make them. There are a few Nespresso clones. Coffee is generally about 1/2 to 2/3 the price and tastes different, but equally good.

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Re: Coffee discussion
« Reply #31 on: May 18, 2010, 10:25 »
The Nespresso capsules should be cheaper soon as the patent expires and people other than Nestle should be able to make them. There are a few Nespresso clones. Coffee is generally about 1/2 to 2/3 the price and tastes different, but equally good.

I recall reading an article about Nestle, which said the Nespresso product was first created way back in 1986 but didn't take off until recently.  If it's that old, it should already be out of patent. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nespresso

Hmmm... Wiki suggests that patents will start expiring in 2012. 

My wife went on a business trip to London earlier this year.  As it turned out she didn't have much work to do on the trip, so she went shopping and wound up buying a Nespresso machine and hand-carried it back.  Two weeks later she got sent there again, and this time she bought the "starter kit" which consists of 25 sleeves of 10 capsules each.  All much cheaper than the local price -- and this was when the pound was still more than 2.1.

A few months later her brother, who went to a conference in London, did the same thing  ;D

The machines are indeed practically identical, we have a Magimix while my brother-in-law bought a Krups, but aside from minor cosmetic differences, they're the same -- even down to the drip tray, the container for spent capsules etc, these seem to be the exact same part.  If they're all from the same OEM, that explains a lot.
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Re: Coffee discussion
« Reply #32 on: May 18, 2010, 10:32 »

The machines are indeed practically identical, we have a Magimix while my brother-in-law bought a Krups, but aside from minor cosmetic differences, they're the same -- even down to the drip tray, the container for spent capsules etc, these seem to be the exact same part.  If they're all from the same OEM, that explains a lot.

They are all OEM in Switzerland for Magimix, Krups, Delonghi, etc., like you say, sama sama!!... :D

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Re: Coffee discussion
« Reply #33 on: May 18, 2010, 10:44 »
Pai sae OT a bit from all this talk of "high end" coffee  ;)

Do any of you drink freeze dried coffee in the office where Nespresso and other fancy machines are not available? I've been drinking Moccona blends for a while now and am fairly satisfied with their taste (I drink my coffee black without milk or sugar).

BTW I've tried a few of the Nespresso range blends - not bad very aromatic and definitely super convenient for the urban crowd.

My personal fave is the Legendee blend from Trung Ngyuen in Vietnam (available in Liang Court).

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Re: Coffee discussion
« Reply #34 on: May 18, 2010, 11:01 »
They are all OEM in Switzerland for Magimix, Krups, Delonghi, etc., like you say, sama sama!!... :D

The Wiki article says DeLonghi is the exception and does not come from the same OEM manufacturer that the rest use.

Do any of you drink freeze dried coffee in the office where Nespresso and other fancy machines are not available? I've been drinking Moccona blends for a while now and am fairly satisfied with their taste (I drink my coffee black without milk or sugar).

I used to drink Moccona freeze-dried back in uni hostel days, the one that looks like flakes or chips, rather than granules.  Quite good for instant coffee.  Although in the second half of final year, my mother pointed out that no one was using the percolater at home with me at uni anyway, and suggested I bring it to the hostel with me, which I did.  So late-night mugging sessions were at least more pleasant, fuelled by properly brewed coffee rather than instant.  Just the aroma from the pot helped...   ;D
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Re: Coffee discussion
« Reply #35 on: May 18, 2010, 12:30 »
Nespresso patent- the one with the broadest claim was dated way back in 1979 which has long expired. that's why you can see similar concept machines around. They have numerous patents but most of the later one relates to minor improvement over the capasule. I believe the 1992 patent is the one that covers the generic capasule that is currently seen.

there may be some downside in prices but I believe could be limited due to the high cost involved in the use of alu and getting the coffee vacuum sealed.

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Re: Coffee discussion
« Reply #36 on: May 18, 2010, 13:32 »
Actually, how many cups of coffee do you guys drink a day?

Much as I like a good coffee, I only drink a cup every day, occasionally a 2nd cup late at night. I never considered any of these gadgets (not even a simple percolator) cos it just didnt make sense. No one else drinks coffee in my home...

So I'm stuck with only instant coffee, the kind you make by the cuppa...

But I do envy you guys... :)
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Re: Coffee discussion
« Reply #37 on: May 18, 2010, 13:42 »
0-2 cups per day normally. Do note that the Nespresso and clones just have a TINY amount of coffee in those capsules, so 2-3 cups probably has the same caffein as a cup of Starbucks coffee. These machines are waaay more easy to use than a percolator or drip, so it does make sense for you. Note that the Martello sold at Harvey Norman also has tea capsules.

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Re: Coffee discussion
« Reply #38 on: May 18, 2010, 15:02 »
For me, about 4 capsules a day, 5-6 on weekends.......... :)

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Re: Coffee discussion
« Reply #39 on: May 18, 2010, 18:26 »
For me two cups per day.  Enjoying the grinding and dripping sounds also!  100% Hi Fi!  Ha Ha!

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Re: Coffee discussion
« Reply #40 on: May 18, 2010, 21:05 »
I drink 4 cups a day typically. 

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Re: Coffee discussion
« Reply #41 on: May 19, 2010, 12:01 »
No wonder coffee is one of the highest traded commodity.... almost everyone drink a few cups a day.

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Re: Coffee discussion
« Reply #42 on: May 31, 2010, 09:04 »
Wow Francis the stuff you served on your Krupps was very nice. Amazing stuff.
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Re: Coffee discussion
« Reply #43 on: May 31, 2010, 09:21 »
Anyone took advantage of the Nespresso GSS discount combined with the Taka 10% members discount to purchase a unit over the weekend.  Was down at Taka on Saturday night and the whole Nespresso booth was swamped with folks purchasing devices and capsules.  A Citiz with milk was going for $565 after all the discounts and if you were the Platinum card holder, that would have also translated into a further $30 Taka voucher plus $3 parking rebate.  Today's the last day of the Taka discounts so folks who want to snag one can still do so.
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Re: Coffee discussion
« Reply #44 on: May 31, 2010, 12:15 »
Wow Francis the stuff you served on your Krupps was very nice. Amazing stuff.

Isn't Francis using Nespresso equivalent?