Thiel Speakers Owners' Thread

[DIYer Straits]

Dealers like customers that loan equipment and don't return type........

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Spot my new upgrade in my signature?  DIYer Straits fully understands why..... ha aha haaaa

WTF? You got one? Gave up on the xover right?

[Doggie Howser]

Friend wanted to pop by Cabana clustered housing after lunch since it was near work.

Geez, for an almost 2900 sq ft unit with 5 floors, it has a stinking small amount of usable space. I couldn't find ONE room I could comfortably place a pair of 3.7s in.

I think my current master bedroom is larger and more usable than even their largest master bedroom config (which has a glass walkin cabinet blocking the middle). What a freaking bad design.

[DIYer Straits]

Friend wanted to pop by Cabana clustered housing after lunch since it was near work.

Geez, for an almost 2900 sq ft unit with 5 floors, it has a stinking small amount of usable space. I couldn't find ONE room I could comfortably place a pair of 3.7s in.

I think my current master bedroom is larger and more usable than even their largest master bedroom config (which has a glass walkin cabinet blocking the middle). What a freaking bad design.

Dude, these new homes are not HT friendly as the designers are ignorant to min HT requirement. If you realise the trend is moving away from "wasted" space like a place to hang your clothes to dry.

[Doggie Howser]

SO consensus is buy new hifi, buy new house?

haha

ps after hearing about one forummer who said he kena warning from the neighbourhood mata (who must be very on.. cos cannot arrest people who whack ambulance driver but can intervene if someone play music too loud), I think I better shelve the idea of placing my system in the master bedroom. Sure die very ugly.

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I think I better shelve the idea of placing my system in the master bedroom. Sure die very ugly.

Master bedroom....er....the spouse you meant?

Just take the other bedroom lah.....

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PS: I show you how lousy a 3.7 sounds in a typical small HDB bedroom......

[jonlee]

Dealers like customers that loan equipment and don't return type........

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Spot my new upgrade in my signature?  DIYer Straits fully understands why..... ha aha haaaa

This one...Thiel S1 Integrator? 

[jonlee]

I've been around to a lot of new launch condos (due to my current occupation) and many do not have the space for a 7.1 system. The only solution is to basically sacrifice a couple of rooms to accomodate a decent HT setup. Maybe thats why soundbars are pretty popular.

Yup...thus likely only getting a 5.2 BG Radia system for the living room. 

But will still cheong a pair of good stereo bookshelf in the master bedroom...      

[Doggie Howser]

Master bedroom....er....the spouse you meant?

I meant if wife goes to do her postgrad in Oz hehe. But forgot abt the neighbours. Dun wanna kenna mata come n give saman!!!

Just take the other bedroom lah.....

Honestly, none of them have the kind of space to do Thiels justice..

PS: I show you how lousy a 3.7 sounds in a typical small HDB bedroom......

Actually it might look small in the photo but from yr description, still can sit 8 feet away.. buay pai liao!

[RabPaul]

PS: I show you how lousy a 3.7 sounds in a typical small HDB bedroom......

Are you talking about your own 3.7?
I looked at early pictures of your system in this thread and noticed that your SS2 is parallel to your toe-ed in left speaker.
This means you are not using the wall placement controls on the sub and even if you are they would be off. Why?
I also did not notice a PX05, you did not have it at the time? Are you using one now with the S1 integrator or is there no PX05 at all?

[DIYer Straits]

Yup...thus likely only getting a 5.2 BG Radia system for the living room. 

But will still cheong a pair of good stereo bookshelf in the master bedroom...      

And there goes the Thiels...PSSSST!!! DH! Got bargain Thiel system...! Want or not? I be broker! LOL

[DIYer Straits]

Are you talking about your own 3.7?
I looked at early pictures of your system in this thread and noticed that your SS2 is parallel to your toe-ed in left speaker.
This means you are not using the wall placement controls on the sub and even if you are they would be off. Why?
I also did not notice a PX05, you did not have it at the time? Are you using one now with the S1 integrator or is there no PX05 at all?

The Thiel subs are designed to be placed anywhere in a room even in free space. You just have to know how to tune them. And yes, our friend has the Integrator (finally).

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Are you talking about your own 3.7?
I looked at early pictures of your system in this thread and noticed that your SS2 is parallel to your toe-ed in left speaker.
This means you are not using the wall placement controls on the sub and even if you are they would be off. Why?
I also did not notice a PX05, you did not have it at the time? Are you using one now with the S1 integrator or is there no PX05 at all?

Wow!  What sharp eyes you got........

Yes, I am talking about my own 3.7.  And if you have not realized by now that I was merely bullshittng DH.  Knowing fully well that he would not step into my room until he get immune to the prisoning.

To make a long story short, I have not been using the full potential of my SS2 until now.  The SS2 was angled in this fashion to have the longest throw (without being in a corner).  It is actually aiming at the other rear corner of the room.   As for the inaccuracy of the wall placement....."agar agar lah".....anyway I will have to move the SS2 now that I got the S1 and the TAOC isolators.

I did had a PX05 but it wasn't my taste.  My Denon AP had been handling bass management and I am glad to have the S1 now.

The S1 is primarily build for a stereo system but have multiple HT options. In the Augment mode,the signal path to your main speaker never have to go thru the the S1.  Instead S1 either sample your speaker outputs or you provide an line level output from your preamp.  I was  fortunate to have the Denon AVP and I used all the RCA outputs to feed the S1.  In this way, the Balanced Stereo XLR signal were never touched by the S1.  LFE output goes into the S1 by it own dedicated input.

Then what about my Center and Surround channels?  These are handled by a PX05 Passive crossover which sample the MSC-1 speakers outputs.  The output of the passive box is feed into the BRIDGE input of the S1.

If you are "ambitious" like DH who needs 11.X channels in his HT, all you need to do is to buy two PX05 and connect your 9 channels speakers output to the 2 passive crossover boxes and the their outputs goes into the S1 , via the two available BRIDGE inputs. Even a die-hard channels freak can be satisfied by the S1.......

And the bass integration that was brought by the S1 is incredible.  The merging of the bass notes from both 3.7 and SS2 is really easy to achieved.  Spot on, the first time unlike many other subwoofers I had deal with.

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[RabPaul]

Wow!  What sharp eyes you got........

Yes, I am talking about my own 3.7.  And if you have not realized by now that I was merely bullshittng DH.  Knowing fully well that he would not step into my room until he get immune to the prisoning.

To make a long story short, I have not been using the full potential of my SS2 until now.  The SS2 was angled in this fashion to have the longest throw (without being in a corner).  It is actually aiming at the other rear corner of the room.   As for the inaccuracy of the wall placement....."agar agar lah".....anyway I will have to move the SS2 now that I got the S1 and the TAOC isolators.

I did had a PX05 but it wasn't my taste.  My Denon AP had been handling bass management and I am glad to have the S1 now.

The S1 is primarily build for a stereo system but have multiple HT options. In the Augment mode,the signal path to your main speaker never have to go thru the the S1.  Instead S1 either sample your speaker outputs or you provide an line level output from your preamp.  I was  fortunate to have the Denon AVP and I used all the RCA outputs to feed the S1.  In this way, the Balanced Stereo XLR signal were never touched by the S1.  LFE output goes into the S1 by it own dedicated input.

Then what about my Center and Surround channels?  These are handled by a PX05 Passive crossover which sample the MSC-1 speakers outputs.  The output of the passive box is feed into the BRIDGE input of the S1.

If you are "ambitious" like DH who needs 11.X channels in his HT, all you need to do is to buy two PX05 and connect your 9 channels speakers output to the 2 passive crossover boxes and the their outputs goes into the S1 , via the two available BRIDGE inputs. Even a die-hard channels freak can be satisfied by the S1.......

And the bass integration that was brought by the S1 is incredible.  The merging of the bass notes from both 3.7 and SS2 is really easy to achieved.  Spot on, the first time unlike many other subwoofers I had deal with.

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Glad to hear you were only joking. I think anyone who owns a Thiel and into HT will be looking to you (the sifu) on how to do things right.
Do key the correct wall distance into the SS2 as I expect this will improve things further.
I have a 2.4 with PX02 and SS1.

[Doggie Howser]

Your SS2 + S1 poison is damn lethal man..

[Doggie Howser]

shsoh already on 3.7 poison

ps does the S1 do some bass re-eq?