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Re: Thiel Speakers Owners' Thread
« Reply #2145 on: November 20, 2018, 17:34 »
After living so long with time aligned designs, can accept alternatives meh...?
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Re: Thiel Speakers Owners' Thread
« Reply #2146 on: November 20, 2018, 17:52 »
MBL Radialstrahler and Vivid Giya are not time-aligned designs meh?

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Re: Thiel Speakers Owners' Thread
« Reply #2147 on: November 20, 2018, 18:28 »
MBL Radialstrahler and Vivid Giya are not time-aligned designs meh?

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Where did you get the idea both these speaker designs (and other models in their line-up) are time-aligned?
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Re: Thiel Speakers Owners' Thread
« Reply #2148 on: November 21, 2018, 07:55 »
What is time-aligned design mean, would it be time coherence between woofer, mid and tweeter ?

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« Reply #2149 on: November 21, 2018, 09:02 »
when speaker cabinets have the drivers and tweeters mounted in a tilted angled fashion, means they are time aligned design. correct me if i am wrong.

oh, also play on the speed inside the crossover?
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« Reply #2150 on: November 21, 2018, 09:25 »
Jim’s designs use gentle first order crossover .....
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Re: Thiel Speakers Owners' Thread
« Reply #2151 on: November 21, 2018, 10:00 »
Spica  speaker maybe?

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Re: Thiel Speakers Owners' Thread
« Reply #2152 on: November 21, 2018, 10:42 »
Whether MBL Radialstrahler and Vivid Giya are truly time-aligned designs or not, I think we cannot be sure.

But consistently, these 2 speakers had always provide the best overall sound in all the various audio shows plus the fact that they sounding superior to my Thiel 3.7, who cares they are time aligned design or not??

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« Reply #2153 on: November 21, 2018, 12:05 »
when speaker cabinets have the drivers and tweeters mounted in a tilted angled fashion, means they are time aligned design. correct me if i am wrong.

oh, also play on the speed inside the crossover?

It does always has to be on a slope to be time align, Duntech/Dunlavy design their drivers on different plane but firing  straight  on.
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Re: Thiel Speakers Owners' Thread
« Reply #2154 on: November 21, 2018, 12:12 »
does the manufacturer states at what distance the drivers are time aligned to? Can you change this distance?

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Re: Thiel Speakers Owners' Thread
« Reply #2155 on: November 21, 2018, 15:13 »
Whether MBL Radialstrahler and Vivid Giya are truly time-aligned designs or not, I think we cannot be sure.
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Yes you can... at least for ones that have been measured by Stereophile - just take a look at the Impulse response graphs; non time-aligned speakers will have individual driver response separation - all 3 speakers mentioned in this thread have been measured.

But like you said, whether (a) you can hear the difference, and (b) you actually care about it, is debatable.

As they say, ignorance is bliss :)
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Re: Thiel Speakers Owners' Thread
« Reply #2156 on: November 21, 2018, 17:10 »
time alignment is audible.

once you hear it, difficult to "unhear"

 ;D

but is is also possible that there are many people who had lived with time-aligned speakers over many years, yet have no clue what to listen for...
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« Reply #2157 on: November 21, 2018, 18:11 »
Sometime I wonder what will happen when time align speakers meet time align cables like MIT and Transparent speaker  cable will compliment each other or over compensate  and become over align.  ;D

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« Reply #2158 on: November 23, 2018, 08:24 »
Sometime I wonder what will happen when time align speakers meet time align cables like MIT and Transparent speaker  cable will compliment each other or over compensate  and become over align.  ;D

Over time-alignment = Time travel  ;D ;D ;D
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