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Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
« Reply #6420 on: April 15, 2019, 11:43 »
My Bluesound Node2i->Schiit Gungnir->Saga->Vidar->Special 40 is too bright until I cannot listen for long and even hurt my ears which I still feel the pain now after yesterday night listening. I haven't not encounter this brightness before with KEF LS50 or ATC SCM7v3.

Can any bros here give me some guidance to resolve the brightness? Is it because of cables issues or amplifier mismatch? I also read from old posts in this thread that insufficient power from amp can cause brightness in speakers too.

Thanks a million.


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Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
« Reply #6421 on: April 15, 2019, 11:48 »
.....or a pair of Ayre MXR Twenty will solve your brightness problem.....but then you need to get rid of the Schitt.

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Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
« Reply #6422 on: April 15, 2019, 11:54 »
lugging the S40 to someone else house is tedious and likewise anyone bringing amp to his place as well.
i use to see ppl do it. nowadays rare. most buy without such critical assessment.
can only do once the buyer is firm to get then can arrange. long ago ppl with big condo do shootout. now no more such kangtao. anyway hifi very personal, what i like may not suit you.

objectively like what some ppl tells me, let go my Plinius. change something else.
i will also say the same thing to bro thye, change those s....
last would be give up the S40 get another spk that suits you.  ;D
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Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
« Reply #6423 on: April 15, 2019, 12:19 »
My Bluesound Node2i->Schiit Gungnir->Saga->Vidar->Special 40 is too bright until I cannot listen for long and even hurt my ears which I still feel the pain now after yesterday night listening. I haven't not encounter this brightness before with KEF LS50 or ATC SCM7v3.

Can any bros here give me some guidance to resolve the brightness? Is it because of cables issues or amplifier mismatch? I also read from old posts in this thread that insufficient power from amp can cause brightness in speakers too.

Thanks a million.


If you read the Stereophile review on your speaker it did mention that the reviewer is bother by the 1k Spike and the suck out following that so the way to remedy this is to look a IC or spk cable that does not accentuate this frequency.

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Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
« Reply #6424 on: April 15, 2019, 12:21 »
My Bluesound Node2i->Schiit Gungnir->Saga->Vidar->Special 40 is too bright until I cannot listen for long and even hurt my ears which I still feel the pain now after yesterday night listening. I haven't not encounter this brightness before with KEF LS50 or ATC SCM7v3.

Can any bros here give me some guidance to resolve the brightness? Is it because of cables issues or amplifier mismatch? I also read from old posts in this thread that insufficient power from amp can cause brightness in speakers too.

Thanks a million.

There are differences between brightness and harsh of noisy system.  When the noisy system reproduces the sound , it's harsh and music is not clear.  To counter act it,  owners play the music louder , it'll get worse.

Based on what youth described, I am very much suspect that it's noisy system and your living room is too bright.


What kind of music do you listen.
How loud,  in dB.
How far do you sit from speaker and how wide speakers apart?

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Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
« Reply #6425 on: April 15, 2019, 19:25 »
My Bluesound Node2i->Schiit Gungnir->Saga->Vidar->Special 40 is too bright until I cannot listen for long and even hurt my ears which I still feel the pain now after yesterday night listening. I haven't not encounter this brightness before with KEF LS50 or ATC SCM7v3.

Can any bros here give me some guidance to resolve the brightness? Is it because of cables issues or amplifier mismatch? I also read from old posts in this thread that insufficient power from amp can cause brightness in speakers too.

Thanks a million.


It might be your amp not having sufficient power to drive the S40, Dyns ain’t very efficient speakers more so when u are upgrading to higher models, u might wanna source for 1 that is high current instead of just high power ratings, another possibility is the environment especially so if theres no treatment done.
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Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
« Reply #6426 on: April 15, 2019, 22:08 »
Thanks guys for the suggestion. Probably amp need to change to bring out the potential of S40. Apart from Plinius, Accuphase, Marantz PM11, Ayre MXR Twenty, can Exposure 3010S2D or Rega Elicit-R do the job for the time being?

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Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
« Reply #6427 on: April 15, 2019, 22:22 »
Hi BadEnglish,

The speakers are 1.6m apart and my listening position is 1.8m away.
Yes, I do feel my system is noisy and sometime I increase the volume and become harsh as you mentioned.
I am using Plixir 1st gen BAC800 power conditioner. I will get noise analyzer to test it.

There are differences between brightness and harsh of noisy system.  When the noisy system reproduces the sound , it's harsh and music is not clear.  To counter act it,  owners play the music louder , it'll get worse.

Based on what youth described, I am very much suspect that it's noisy system and your living room is too bright.


What kind of music do you listen.
How loud,  in dB.
How far do you sit from speaker and how wide speakers apart?

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Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
« Reply #6428 on: April 15, 2019, 22:23 »
err no.?. unless someone using the 2 you mentioned IS actually pairing them with a pair of Dynaudio S40 or any current 4ohm dynaudio bookshelf's gives a valid green light saying can.  :-X
anyhow much are those? there are some entry pre-own accuphase around. the S40 did sound better when bro comfort had it.
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Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
« Reply #6429 on: April 15, 2019, 22:41 »
Thanks guys for the suggestion. Probably amp need to change to bring out the potential of S40. Apart from Plinius, Accuphase, Marantz PM11, Ayre MXR Twenty, can Exposure 3010S2D or Rega Elicit-R do the job for the time being?
Since you have the speaker, why not try it with some of these amps instead of soliciting even more choices and confusing yourself bro?
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Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
« Reply #6430 on: April 16, 2019, 20:18 »


err no.?. unless someone using the 2 you mentioned IS actually pairing them with a pair of Dynaudio S40 or any current 4ohm dynaudio bookshelf's gives a valid green light saying can.  :-X
anyhow much are those? there are some entry pre-own accuphase around. the S40 did sound better when bro comfort had it.

DJQ, where can I find pre-owned Accuphase? I normally look for pre-owned at this forum or Carousell.
Bro Comfort's system had transformed tremendously after his F110. Very impressive now..

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Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
« Reply #6431 on: April 16, 2019, 20:24 »


Since you have the speaker, why not try it with some of these amps instead of soliciting even more choices and confusing yourself bro?

Hi Pete, cos the amps recommended by Bros here are mainly above 5k while the 2 I mentioned are available now around 2k pre-owned. Guess I will need to up my budget to bring my system to next level to shine S40.

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Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
« Reply #6432 on: April 16, 2019, 21:01 »

Hi Pete, cos the amps recommended by Bros here are mainly above 5k while the 2 I mentioned are available now around 2k pre-owned. Guess I will need to up my budget to bring my system to next level to shine S40.

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IMHO, you can use what you have first or trade up, eg a PM 11 should be under 4k, and will give plenty of juice. But it's best to listen first..
Also try the new Cambridge Audio Edge A. Very powerful and very musical..
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Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
« Reply #6433 on: April 16, 2019, 21:27 »

Hi Pete, cos the amps recommended by Bros here are mainly above 5k while the 2 I mentioned are available now around 2k pre-owned. Guess I will need to up my budget to bring my system to next level to shine S40.

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Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
« Reply #6434 on: April 16, 2019, 22:39 »

Hi Pete, cos the amps recommended by Bros here are mainly above 5k while the 2 I mentioned are available now around 2k pre-owned. Guess I will need to up my budget to bring my system to next level to shine S40.

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You probably need a high current amp with higher damping factor to allow you with a better control of the speakers. Consider this amp - https://sg.carousell.com/p/merrill-audio-taranis-stereo-amp-400watts-ch-218337059/, should be easy on your pocket. Go direct with Schiit Gungnir DAC since it has balanced output and use Bluesound Node2i to control the volume if that works.