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Re: Belden 1313A speaker cable
« Reply #390 on: October 19, 2011, 09:17 »
after reading this thread, makes me want to try out this 1313A cable. I'm using generic 12ga cable that I got from AA, not sure if I will hear the difference since Im no audiophile  :-[
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Re: Belden 1313A speaker cable
« Reply #391 on: October 19, 2011, 09:32 »
after reading this thread, makes me want to try out this 1313A cable. I'm using generic 12ga cable that I got from AA, not sure if I will hear the difference since Im no audiophile  :-[

I am no audiophile too. But the difference is so great that even my family can also hear the difference.."they commented "wah, so nice". haha

Not too sure about yr existing cable, but if it is already good, then dont waste money to try.

This cable is a value-for-money to recommend to those that have none and looking for a decent cable. Or for people like me who wants to try bi-wiring (too ex to try with mid/high-end cable).

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Re: Belden 1313A speaker cable
« Reply #392 on: October 19, 2011, 11:47 »
There are other cable that perform better for eg: QED, VDH and etc. I feel the 1313 sound bloated in the low end and is over-rated.

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Re: Belden 1313A speaker cable
« Reply #393 on: October 19, 2011, 11:54 »
Cables are also system dependent and run in has tremendous effect too
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Re: Belden 1313A speaker cable
« Reply #394 on: October 19, 2011, 12:07 »
There are other cable that perform better for eg: QED, VDH and etc. I feel the 1313 sound bloated in the low end and is over-rated.

Interesting finding. Will keep that in mind and see how my burn-in work out to.

Totally agreed that there are tons of better cable out there. But price-wise, this cable is relatively cheap in view of its performance.
Any other cable recommendation that is around $7/m ?? Do share with me, i might buy and test it out :)
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Re: Belden 1313A speaker cable
« Reply #395 on: October 19, 2011, 13:04 »
How bout Qed 79 strand. Heard that it's only 4 usd pm. Althou I've not tried it yet. Anyone here tried it?

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Re: Belden 1313A speaker cable
« Reply #396 on: October 19, 2011, 14:35 »
Cables are also system dependent and run in has tremendous effect too

Run-in doesn't make a bad sounding cable sounds good. If you hook it up and it sound bad from the beginning doubt it will become better over time.

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Re: Belden 1313A speaker cable
« Reply #397 on: October 22, 2011, 00:13 »
Been 4 days since burning in...

the HIGH did not return. Does anyone know if the HIGH will come back after more burn in?
Quite a disappointment if it doesnt.

Quite impatient with the burning in..  :P
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Re: Belden 1313A speaker cable
« Reply #398 on: October 22, 2011, 11:16 »
zaek, what's ur setup like & how much hours have u clocked? Cant comment on the bass cos i'm only a small bookshelf but I dont have problem with missing highs even after only abt 10hrs of listening over the past week. In fact, can already hear huge improvements in imaging & details after only 3 hrs... will try to get to 50hrs by next weekend & share the outcome...

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Re: Belden 1313A speaker cable
« Reply #399 on: October 22, 2011, 12:14 »
zaek, what's ur setup like & how much hours have u clocked? Cant comment on the bass cos i'm only a small bookshelf but I dont have problem with missing highs even after only abt 10hrs of listening over the past week. In fact, can already hear huge improvements in imaging & details after only 3 hrs... will try to get to 50hrs by next weekend & share the outcome...

I clocked roughly 20 hours.

My setup is in my signature. :)
I am happy with everything except the missing highs. After running in for a few days, the bass is now well controlled.

Compared to my old no brand speaker cable, belden clearly killed the high. I listened to lots of vocal, so it was quite apparent.
Nonetheless i do agreed on the improvement in imaging & details (air).

found a review that have similar views on the highs.
http://ns2.zmc.com/audio/cables/messages/13/133050.html
« Last Edit: October 22, 2011, 12:17 by zaek »
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Re: Belden 1313A speaker cable
« Reply #400 on: October 23, 2011, 14:23 »
ah.. played a few female vocalists and now i know what u mean... Let's see when the cable reach 100hrs...

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Re: Belden 1313A speaker cable
« Reply #401 on: October 23, 2011, 14:58 »
I clocked roughly 20 hours.

My setup is in my signature. :)
I am happy with everything except the missing highs. After running in for a few days, the bass is now well controlled.

Compared to my old no brand speaker cable, belden clearly killed the high. I listened to lots of vocal, so it was quite apparent.
Nonetheless i do agreed on the improvement in imaging & details (air).

found a review that have similar views on the highs.
http://ns2.zmc.com/audio/cables/messages/13/133050.html

If ur speaker is biwirable, use 1313 only for the mid bass, and use some thinner cable for then tweeters.

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Re: Belden 1313A speaker cable
« Reply #402 on: October 23, 2011, 17:44 »
If ur speaker is biwirable, use 1313 only for the mid bass, and use some thinner cable for then tweeters.

Good suggestion. see if the burn in helps anot after 1 month... if not really need to source for another cable for the tweeter.
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Re: Belden 1313A speaker cable
« Reply #403 on: October 24, 2011, 09:34 »
Been 4 days since burning in...

the HIGH did not return. Does anyone know if the HIGH will come back after more burn in?
Quite a disappointment if it doesnt.

Quite impatient with the burning in..  :P

it simply tell you that this cable "burn-in" is plain bullshit .   ;D ;D ;D
a conductor is a conductor. no matter how long you use it , it electrical characteristics remains the same. 


if you still cannot find your highs after 10 days , can sell the cable to me for half the price.



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Re: Belden 1313A speaker cable
« Reply #404 on: October 24, 2011, 10:22 »
it simply tell you that this cable "burn-in" is plain bullshit .   ;D ;D ;D
a conductor is a conductor. no matter how long you use it , it electrical characteristics remains the same. 

if you still cannot find your highs after 10 days , can sell the cable to me for half the price.

that's a strong statement >>> ""burn-in" is plain bullshit"  ;)

u really big bad wolf sia. =P

I am a cable burn-in believer. I have many cables that "change for the better" after running in. But to a certain extent, I also agreed that burn-in doesn't change the cable's characteristic.

In this very case (after burn-in for awhile), the imaging becomes better and bass is now controlled (compared to initial impression of overwhelming). The only drawback is that this cable really does kill the HIGH.

So what i did, I used back my old cable for my High frequency and Belden 1313a for the Low frequency. Now, everything is sweet (for the time being) :)
I guess the good part of bi-wiring is that you can use different cables (difference characteristic) for matching your taste.
« Last Edit: October 24, 2011, 10:25 by zaek »
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