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Belden 1313A speaker cable
« on: March 21, 2007, 14:21 »
Ha ha... after reading Bolts' thread on anticable, itchy leh... went down to LHS and was introduced to this 10AWG cable, design for audio use n understand tis is a relatively new product frm Belden.

http://www.belden.com/pdfs/prodbull/NP232.pdf

setup with MP5 and Marantz cdp, nice match as cable adds more bounce to the sweet but laid back output from Marantz. being 10AWG, need to get banana plugs to take in the cable thickness.

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Re: Belden 1313A speaker cable
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2007, 14:33 »
hi hifiluv, whats the price range like? 16, 14 or 12 AWG available as well?

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Re: Belden 1313A speaker cable
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2007, 15:47 »
geez...when i saw the tok gong 10AWG, i just buy and didnt ask for the smaller guage ones, the 1313A  is $8/mtr, for the rest shd be px lower, but u need to call LHS.  :)

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Re: Belden 1313A speaker cable
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2007, 16:04 »
Ha ha... after reading Bolts' thread on anticable, itchy leh... went down to LHS and was introduced to this 10AWG cable, design for audio use n understand tis is a relatively new product frm Belden.

http://www.belden.com/pdfs/prodbull/NP232.pdf

setup with MP5 and Marantz cdp, nice match as cable adds more bounce to the sweet but laid back output from Marantz. being 10AWG, need to get banana plugs to take in the cable thickness.

 :)


compared with the biwire beldens??

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Re: Belden 1313A speaker cable
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2007, 23:00 »
compared with the biwire beldens??



i can only compare with Canare 4S11 biwire, the Canare is warm but a little fuzzy but tis baby is a good balance between warm and punchy with more details.  i hv only used it for an hr n i m already liking it... ;D

the Canare is 14AWG (1.63mm dia) while tis cable being 10AWG (2.59mm) is almost 1.5x the diameter.

what was interesting is tat when set up with 6L6 tube amp n Energy C3, with the Canare 4S11, there was a constant hissing sound fm the right channel, but when swap tis cable, the sound was gone.  also with 6p1, when setup in living room, got a more decent soundstage, played Enya, she seems to move forward a few step, so i retract the comment tat the 6p1 is only good for small room; just change the speaker cable,  ;D

pair up with 6L6, MP5 and mini 6p1, all reveal more details and punch, played acoustic guitar tracks and i could almost feel the plucking of each string, very refreshing.  IMHO, tis is a quite good match for tube amps and its not ex, so can buy a run and play with it.  :)
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Re: Belden 1313A speaker cable
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2007, 14:42 »
Bro, maybe you could actually try the 16AWG 1307A version for your application (tubes)....even if yours is not SE. Might be pleasantly surprised. And if you can, use it bare (but carefully tinned).

I am actually ditching my kilobuck super thick cable soon for a 20AWG Ortofon which is less than 100 bucks. 

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Re: Belden 1313A speaker cable
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2007, 21:02 »
How much is the 1313a per/m?

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Re: Belden 1313A speaker cable
« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2007, 21:19 »
Hi boring,
as above thread.....


geez...when i saw the tok gong 10AWG, i just buy and didnt ask for the smaller guage ones, the 1313A  is $8/mtr, for the rest shd be px lower, but u need to call LHS. 
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Re: Belden 1313A speaker cable
« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2007, 21:25 »
Hifiluv, u damn good one. Just after I get my anti cables, you introduce new cable. Never ending ventures.

BTW, do you bi wire your speakers?
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Re: Belden 1313A speaker cable
« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2007, 01:04 »
Sorry didn't read thoroughly. I might use this for car since it's quite affordable. try at home 1st. hehe

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Re: Belden 1313A speaker cable
« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2007, 07:18 »
Bro, maybe you could actually try the 16AWG 1307A version for your application (tubes)....even if yours is not SE. Might be pleasantly surprised. And if you can, use it bare (but carefully tinned).

I am actually ditching my kilobuck super thick cable soon for a 20AWG Ortofon which is less than 100 bucks. 

Thank you ah....i feel another itch coming my way....... ;D

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Re: Belden 1313A speaker cable
« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2007, 07:26 »
Hifiluv, u damn good one. Just after I get my anti cables, you introduce new cable. Never ending ventures.

BTW, do you bi wire your speakers?

yes, the KEF is biwired using Canare 4S11, as front for HT, which i find its quite good becos of the wide dispersion feature of the UniQ design and the 4S11 balance with warmness. i used belden for my centre as it gives more crisp sound for vocal.

the 1313A is used as single cable for Energy and for playing with the various tube amps. interestingly, 1313A not only output more details but also open up the soundstage for the Energy C3 which on its own cast a smaller dispersion compared with the KEF :)

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Re: Belden 1313A speaker cable
« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2007, 08:16 »
Thank you ah....i feel another itch coming my way....... ;D
No worries, you are welcome!  ;D   Its cheap anyway, like i said try it bare and RAW!

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Re: Belden 1313A speaker cable
« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2007, 10:11 »
i use banana plugs becos -

1. always swaping cables fm one amp to another, if screw n unscrew bare wires, hands very sore leh...he he......
2. it may be in the mind, but i feel the sound is better,  :P

btw where to buy the Ortofon ah??? getting more itchy leidi.... ;D
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Re: Belden 1313A speaker cable
« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2007, 10:17 »
Sorry didn't read thoroughly. I might use this for car since it's quite affordable. try at home 1st. hehe

if ur car using default wires, galentee this one sure improve sound one.  i changed the internal wires of my minicompo speakers to belden wires, the sound jump one notch,  ;D