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Klotz LY225/LSCF-425 or Canare 4s11/4s8
« on: January 24, 2006, 22:26 »
Hi folks,
Currently using 1860A for my LCR... Thinking of changing it... How are the above? Will it be an upgrade actually?  ??? Anyone did a blind test on these cables?

I did asked for the canare cables before (not sure of model), but remember clearly that it is a very thick cable. Are the klotz that thick too? Heh...heh.. kind of like to buy stuff by the weight lar...

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Re: Klotz LY225/LSCF-425 or Canare 4s11/4s8
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2006, 23:02 »
Moving from Belden 1860A to either Klotz or Canare is NOT an upgrade. However, all three cables sound diff. Personally I like Klotz best, Canare sounds warm and less airy while Belden sounds grainy relatively but it has a bold sound.

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Re: Klotz LY225/LSCF-425 or Canare 4s11/4s8
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2006, 23:30 »
Moving from Belden 1860A to either Klotz or Canare is NOT an upgrade. However, all three cables sound diff. Personally I like Klotz best, Canare sounds warm and less airy while Belden sounds grainy relatively but it has a bold sound.

OIC... So what's the characteristics of Klotz? So if considering "upgrade" what are my options? I was reading some old threads on the klotz... looks like there has been some changes to the dealership and that we must get in a 100m bundles. Is this still the case? Where else to buy? Thanks!
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Re: Klotz LY225/LSCF-425 or Canare 4s11/4s8
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2006, 17:20 »
I use Klotz in my Aego 2. The spk cables that came with the set sound too bright. I had another pair for my separates system but a fren took home to try and has bot it over. In my dad's house I made a pair of 1810A, basically the two core version of four core 1860A, for him. Klotz, after run in, sounds warmer than Belden but not to the extent of Canare. Its highs and lows sound more extended whereas Belden has a prominent mid-low bass so its low bass sounds attenuated. Belden also sounds less airy vs Klot. I think LHS in SLT #02-27 sells Klotz by the metre so you dont need to buy a 100m reel from agent.

Unless you have a three way floorstander with decent source and electronics in a decent size room, I'd say you are better off spending your money elsewhere, ie on hardware. In my place the difference from changing hardware is very significant vs changing cables. Other spk cables I have are Audioplan, OCOS and vdH SCS12.
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Re: Klotz LY225/LSCF-425 or Canare 4s11/4s8
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2006, 17:47 »
slight upgrade...try mogami.

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Re: Klotz LY225/LSCF-425 or Canare 4s11/4s8
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2006, 22:28 »
I use Klotz in my Aego 2. The spk cables that came with the set sound too bright. I had another pair for my separates system but a fren took home to try and has bot it over. In my dad's house I made a pair of 1810A, basically the two core version of four core 1860A, for him. Klotz, after run in, sounds warmer than Belden but not to the extent of Canare. Its highs and lows sound more extended whereas Belden has a prominent mid-low bass so its low bass sounds attenuated. Belden also sounds less airy vs Klot. I think LHS in SLT #02-27 sells Klotz by the metre so you dont need to buy a 100m reel from agent.

Unless you have a three way floorstander with decent source and electronics in a decent size room, I'd say you are better off spending your money elsewhere, ie on hardware. In my place the difference from changing hardware is very significant vs changing cables. Other spk cables I have are Audioplan, OCOS and vdH SCS12.

Thanks Ongus!

LHS dun have any Klotz speaker cables liao... tried Hung Bros too... also out....  ??? Have you tried Canare 2s14? Huge cable boy... $7/m i think... considering that... but might have problem routing it behind my shelves and stuff.

Anyway, the reason why I'm getting new set of cables is coz just got a pair of karaoke speakers... planning to move the 1860a up to this pair and try something else....  ;D So hopefully, along the way can "upgrade" if possible...  ;D

Thanks for your advise!
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Re: Klotz LY225/LSCF-425 or Canare 4s11/4s8
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2006, 22:36 »
slight upgrade...try mogami.

Mogami 3082? $4/m? Where about can i get these? Thanks!  ;)
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Re: Klotz LY225/LSCF-425 or Canare 4s11/4s8
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2006, 11:40 »
Mogami can get from here?

Team108
33 Tannery Lane #06-00
Hoesteel Industrial Building
Singapore 347789
Tel : +65 6748 9333
Fax : +65 6747 7273

Do they sell loose quantities? What are the tested and proven models?
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Re: Klotz LY225/LSCF-425 or Canare 4s11/4s8
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2006, 18:55 »
Call them and your questions will be answered. Personally I prefer Klotz LY225T spk cables over Mogami 3082, which sounds bass light to me. The four core Mogami 2921 is more to my liking, sounding a bit sweet but bold, and costs a lot more too when I had them in HK many years ago.

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Re: Klotz LY225/LSCF-425 or Canare 4s11/4s8
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2006, 10:21 »
Call them and your questions will be answered. Personally I prefer Klotz LY225T spk cables over Mogami 3082, which sounds bass light to me. The four core Mogami 2921 is more to my liking, sounding a bit sweet but bold, and costs a lot more too when I had them in HK many years ago.

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Re: Klotz LY225/LSCF-425 or Canare 4s11/4s8
« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2006, 08:28 »
Hi guys, do you know the wire gauge of the Klotz LY225T? I checked the specs but it wasn't mentioned. The reason I am asking is because I wanted to be sure its gauge is thick enough for 15m lengths of surround speaker connections. Or is this cable recommended only for the LCR/subwoofer connections?

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Re: Klotz LY225/LSCF-425 or Canare 4s11/4s8
« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2006, 09:06 »
as the model states...2 x 2.5 mm sq. 

Hi guys, do you know the wire gauge of the Klotz LY225T? I checked the specs but it wasn't mentioned. The reason I am asking is because I wanted to be sure its gauge is thick enough for 15m lengths of surround speaker connections. Or is this cable recommended only for the LCR/subwoofer connections?

Thx.

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Re: Klotz LY225/LSCF-425 or Canare 4s11/4s8
« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2006, 01:15 »
Guys any idea where to buy this Klotz LY225T ? I need around 50 m.