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HD Fury
« on: May 13, 2020, 14:31 »
Just got a loan set from our local distributor today, the HD Fury vertex 2! 4k version. I’ll be hooking this up with the spare hdmi 2.1 cables I have in the store room, accell. Just nice can test it out on both my OLED LG tv and the BenQ for HDR. From my experience, the BenQ 5700 doesn’t do a good job at tone mapping, that’s personally verified by me. The SDR 4k, as I know, is fantastic .

The HD fury could be my answer for HDR on the BenQ, as it always using the LG EDID or Sony’s EDID. Frame adapt HDR is also available.

It also allows for scaling to a higher 12 bit colour depth and using Oppo 205 player-led feature, can allow the conversion and use of LLDV / dolby vision on the Projector and Apple TV.

Let’s see how it goes . Front and back pics of the device. Stay tuned





Quick glance





Gotta bring out my colorimeter and recalibrate for HDR again. Let’s see how it goes.

If this works, then it’s a game changer! It’s an inexpensive solution for HDR with dynamic tone mapping


Any HD Fury fans here ? Please fall in.... shoot !!


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Re: HD Fury
« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2020, 14:35 »
I have been using it on my 760ES. Works really well. See an improvement on Mandalorian and Black Panther.

I use HDR Reference mode (1000 nits) on my projector and set the HDFury to pretend it is a 1000 nits LLDV display.
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Re: HD Fury
« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2020, 15:04 »
I have been using it on my 760ES. Works really well. See an improvement on Mandalorian and Black Panther.

I use HDR Reference mode (1000 nits) on my projector and set the HDFury to pretend it is a 1000 nits LLDV display.


Thanks doggie howser, are you using the same model ?


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Re: HD Fury
« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2020, 15:11 »
3 Models to choose from.  I am still wondering which one to get.

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Re: HD Fury
« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2020, 15:26 »
3 Models to choose from.  I am still wondering which one to get.

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Recommend to go with the vertex 2. Web interface. Easier to nav too.

Diva if you still have 1080p sinks and maestro if you need to run long distance.. hope this helps.

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Re: HD Fury
« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2020, 15:31 »
Hi all I have the basic vertex1 using it with Sony VPL 260ES and an old LG OLED non 4k non HDR.
I bought it initially to solve handshake issues with the 2 sinks above with my sources (Apple TV4k, Pioneer LX500, Roku, StarHub box) through the Acurus Muse Pre Pro. Works great, I set all on auto. Although now trying the LLDV trick..
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Re: HD Fury
« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2020, 15:35 »
Ha, so you guys solved the HDMI handshaking problem with the FD Fury devices.  Yes, far cost effective way of doing it instead of costly long-run silver wired or optical HDMI cables.

OK, I will buy a Vertex soon.

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Re: HD Fury
« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2020, 15:41 »
Ha, so you guys solved the HDMI handshaking problem with the FD Fury devices.  Yes, far cost effective way of doing it instead of costly long-run silver wired or optical HDMI cables.

OK, I will buy a Vertex soon.

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Let me wait for my distributor pricelist before quote. Hold your horses at the moment ya lol.

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Re: HD Fury
« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2020, 15:47 »
Hi all I have the basic vertex1 using it with Sony VPL 260ES and an old LG OLED non 4k non HDR.
I bought it initially to solve handshake issues with the 2 sinks above with my sources (Apple TV4k, Pioneer LX500, Roku, StarHub box) through the Acurus Muse Pre Pro. Works great, I set all on auto. Although now trying the LLDV trick..
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Haha. Yeah. Solving handshake is the fundamentals... Playing with the EDIDs to improve the colors in-between LLDV and HDR is the Interesting part.

Just too bad.. I have no HDR TV nor prj haha

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Re: HD Fury
« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2020, 17:53 »
nice. how much is one bro roughly?
Just got a loan set from our local distributor today, the HD Fury vertex 2! 4k version. I’ll be hooking this up with the spare hdmi 2.1 cables I have in the store room, accell. Just nice can test it out on both my OLED LG tv and the BenQ for HDR. From my experience, the BenQ 5700 doesn’t do a good job at tone mapping, that’s personally verified by me. The SDR 4k, as I know, is fantastic .

The HD fury could be my answer for HDR on the BenQ, as it always using the LG EDID or Sony’s EDID. Frame adapt HDR is also available.

It also allows for scaling to a higher 12 bit colour depth and using Oppo 205 player-led feature, can allow the conversion and use of LLDV / dolby vision on the Projector and Apple TV.

Let’s see how it goes . Front and back pics of the device. Stay tuned





Quick glance





Gotta bring out my colorimeter and recalibrate for HDR again. Let’s see how it goes.

If this works, then it’s a game changer! It’s an inexpensive solution for HDR with dynamic tone mapping


Any HD Fury fans here ? Please fall in.... shoot !!


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Re: HD Fury
« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2020, 18:05 »
I got the Vertex 2. Seemed really easy and used by someone in AVS with the 760ES.

I used his settings.


Vertex 2 Guide

Assumes you're putting the Vertex 2 between the receiver and the projector.

Go to the web page for your Vertex 2, click on Config tab. Go down to FW Update. Upload new 0.49 firmware. Wait a minute.

Clear browser cache, then reload page.

EDID Tab

Check Automix
Video flags TX0 (main output that is primarily for 4k)
Audio flags stereo (projector doesn't do sound anyway)
HDR Flags - check HLG as the projector does support that
DV Flags - check box

Scaler Tab

Check Autoscaling radio button
Tick box to not upscale for TX0

HDR/AVI Tab

Check "Use custom HDR... input is LLDV"

EOTF, set as SMPTE ST 2084, BT2020-2, D65
Max luminate 1000
Min Luminance 0.005
Max CLL 1000 (matches HDR Ref on Sony)
MaxFALL leave at 400

Click Create IF
Click Send HDR

DV Tab

Construct Custom DV Data Block

DV Interface Low Latency 12 bit YCbCR 422 (haven't tried other options yet)
Primaries DCI P3
YUV 422 12 bit supported
Global Dimming not supported
Backlight not supported
Backlight min lum n/a

Set primaries. Unless you have your own values from calibrations, I suggest you stick to the standard RGB primaries.

Max luminance, set at 1000 nits to match the Ref HDR curve. Min luminance, set at 0.005, which seems to work well with projectors.

Click create, then send DV.

OSD Tab

Change fade time as it gets flipping annoying...

Config Tab

Check HDCP 1.4 to make it quicker syncs and slightly less bandwidth, therefore slightly better reliability on long runs

Enjoy!

If I find anything that needs tweaking, I'll update the post.
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Re: HD Fury
« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2020, 18:09 »
I got the Vertex 2. Seemed really easy and used by someone in AVS with the 760ES.

I used his settings.


Vertex 2 Guide

Assumes you're putting the Vertex 2 between the receiver and the projector.

Go to the web page for your Vertex 2, click on Config tab. Go down to FW Update. Upload new 0.49 firmware. Wait a minute.

Clear browser cache, then reload page.

EDID Tab

Check Automix
Video flags TX0 (main output that is primarily for 4k)
Audio flags stereo (projector doesn't do sound anyway)
HDR Flags - check HLG as the projector does support that
DV Flags - check box

Scaler Tab

Check Autoscaling radio button
Tick box to not upscale for TX0

HDR/AVI Tab

Check "Use custom HDR... input is LLDV"

EOTF, set as SMPTE ST 2084, BT2020-2, D65
Max luminate 1000
Min Luminance 0.005
Max CLL 1000 (matches HDR Ref on Sony)
MaxFALL leave at 400

Click Create IF
Click Send HDR

DV Tab

Construct Custom DV Data Block

DV Interface Low Latency 12 bit YCbCR 422 (haven't tried other options yet)
Primaries DCI P3
YUV 422 12 bit supported
Global Dimming not supported
Backlight not supported
Backlight min lum n/a

Set primaries. Unless you have your own values from calibrations, I suggest you stick to the standard RGB primaries.

Max luminance, set at 1000 nits to match the Ref HDR curve. Min luminance, set at 0.005, which seems to work well with projectors.

Click create, then send DV.

OSD Tab

Change fade time as it gets flipping annoying...

Config Tab

Check HDCP 1.4 to make it quicker syncs and slightly less bandwidth, therefore slightly better reliability on long runs

Enjoy!

If I find anything that needs tweaking, I'll update the post.
Nice nice!

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Re: HD Fury
« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2020, 18:10 »
I got the Vertex 2. Seemed really easy and used by someone in AVS with the 760ES.

I used his settings.


Vertex 2 Guide

Assumes you're putting the Vertex 2 between the receiver and the projector.

Go to the web page for your Vertex 2, click on Config tab. Go down to FW Update. Upload new 0.49 firmware. Wait a minute.

Clear browser cache, then reload page.

EDID Tab

Check Automix
Video flags TX0 (main output that is primarily for 4k)
Audio flags stereo (projector doesn't do sound anyway)
HDR Flags - check HLG as the projector does support that
DV Flags - check box

Scaler Tab

Check Autoscaling radio button
Tick box to not upscale for TX0

HDR/AVI Tab

Check "Use custom HDR... input is LLDV"

EOTF, set as SMPTE ST 2084, BT2020-2, D65
Max luminate 1000
Min Luminance 0.005
Max CLL 1000 (matches HDR Ref on Sony)
MaxFALL leave at 400

Click Create IF
Click Send HDR

DV Tab

Construct Custom DV Data Block

DV Interface Low Latency 12 bit YCbCR 422 (haven't tried other options yet)
Primaries DCI P3
YUV 422 12 bit supported
Global Dimming not supported
Backlight not supported
Backlight min lum n/a

Set primaries. Unless you have your own values from calibrations, I suggest you stick to the standard RGB primaries.

Max luminance, set at 1000 nits to match the Ref HDR curve. Min luminance, set at 0.005, which seems to work well with projectors.

Click create, then send DV.

OSD Tab

Change fade time as it gets flipping annoying...

Config Tab

Check HDCP 1.4 to make it quicker syncs and slightly less bandwidth, therefore slightly better reliability on long runs

Enjoy!

If I find anything that needs tweaking, I'll update the post.
Have you tried putting between the source and receiver instead, then to prj?

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HD Fury
« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2020, 19:00 »
nice. how much is one bro roughly?

No idea man, its a loan set. Got the loan from winwin the distributor here but the feedback is positive from AVForum users. I don’t know, I haven’t tested. Cant confirm how good it is at this stage.

Gathering some information and will be testing this out personally, looks like a great device for HDR tone mapping , let’s see.


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Re: HD Fury
« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2020, 19:14 »
Thanks doggie howser! I’ll try it out. I’ll be using player-led dolby vision from Oppo, vertex2 PJ. Not running it through the avr for now. Test it first see how it goes

I’m keen to check out the quality of the dynamic tone mapping for HDR on the HD fury, that’s my main focus with this toy


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