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Are We, The Audiophiles, Mentally Unstable?
« on: May 04, 2020, 11:46 »
Are We?

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Re: Are We, The Audiophiles, Mentally Unstable?
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2020, 12:07 »
Can you define what is an Audiophile first?

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Re: Are We, The Audiophiles, Mentally Unstable?
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2020, 12:17 »
Guys who'd spend tons of money to get good sound out of their system

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Re: Are We, The Audiophiles, Mentally Unstable?
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2020, 12:58 »
Guys who'd spend tons of money to get good sound out of their system

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Tons of money for good sound from an audio system might be considered a fair exchange.

Tons of money and still have bad sound is a problem.....

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Re: Are We, The Audiophiles, Mentally Unstable?
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2020, 13:02 »
It's not easy to get good sound even when tons of money are being spent. System mismatch is always the case.

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Re: Are We, The Audiophiles, Mentally Unstable?
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2020, 13:03 »
In the eye/ear of the "withhold-er"(person who doesn't concur with our sense), We're AudioPhools!!
In the eye/ear of the "behold-er'(person who agrees with our sense of "quality"), We're AudioPhiles!

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Re: Are We, The Audiophiles, Mentally Unstable?
« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2020, 13:25 »
Hope all the wifey would 'see' us as Audiophiles & not psychotic.
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Re: Are We, The Audiophiles, Mentally Unstable?
« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2020, 14:56 »
Absolutely not. IMO mentally unstable ones are those who buy expensive designer clothes, handbags etc but still staying in public housing. Sorry if I offended anyone here ;D
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Re: Are We, The Audiophiles, Mentally Unstable?
« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2020, 15:01 »
Tons of money for good sound from an audio system might be considered a fair exchange.

Tons of money and still have bad sound is a problem.....

And also dont forget, what is good sound to someone can be bad sound to another and vice versa
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Re: Are We, The Audiophiles, Mentally Unstable?
« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2020, 15:08 »
Absolutely not. IMO mentally unstable ones are those who buy expensive designer clothes, handbags etc but still staying in public housing. Sorry if I offended anyone here ;D
U tembak ur own foot huh? Just ur room, with that sofa, with that pair of speaker and amplification... More mentally unstable than bags and clothings ley!!!

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Re: Are We, The Audiophiles, Mentally Unstable?
« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2020, 15:22 »
 ::) Eh yr wire short ah? ;D

U buy a $10k handbag, a $100 one does the same job

U buy a $10k player it does a much much better job than a $100 player mah

Wah lan....
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Re: Are We, The Audiophiles, Mentally Unstable?
« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2020, 15:25 »
Absolutely not. IMO mentally unstable ones are those who buy expensive designer clothes, handbags etc but still staying in public housing. Sorry if I offended anyone here ;D

I think this describes me and I admit that haha.

Being mentally unstable? I find I’m perfectly normal leh, what I think is if I’m happy and doing things within my means, why not...life is short:)
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Re: Are We, The Audiophiles, Mentally Unstable?
« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2020, 15:31 »
Yes bro, as long as we love what we do, that's the best. Doesnt matter if we are called mentally unstable. I know some ppl also say that ppl who spent tons on cables are crazy or ppl with megabucks setups but only have a few discs are lunatics. It's all fine really, as long as it makes one happy!
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Re: Are We, The Audiophiles, Mentally Unstable?
« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2020, 15:35 »
::) Eh yr wire short ah? ;D

U buy a $10k handbag, a $100 one does the same job

U buy a $10k player it does a much much better job than a $100 player mah

Wah lan....
;D WahLanEhh... U botak no hair but ur ear is GOLDEN!!! Can hear stuffs that most can't capture!!! :D

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Re: Are We, The Audiophiles, Mentally Unstable?
« Reply #14 on: May 04, 2020, 15:42 »
I think the better title will be, "Are we Audiophiles the disillusioned lot?" :P


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Re: Are We, The Audiophiles, Mentally Unstable?
« Reply #15 on: May 04, 2020, 16:06 »
My original title is more catchy/attention grabbing. I don't mind to change the title if everyone agrees that we are the ultimate disillusionists.

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Re: Are We, The Audiophiles, Mentally Unstable?
« Reply #16 on: May 04, 2020, 16:37 »
My original title is more catchy/attention grabbing. I don't mind to change the title if everyone agrees that we are the ultimate disillusionists.

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I agree.  The original title is fine.  It grabs attention.   The distraction from C19 is welcome.

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Re: Are We, The Audiophiles, Mentally Unstable?
« Reply #17 on: May 04, 2020, 17:13 »
No worries, I'm just suggesting...either way, this is a contentious topic which will sure to evoke some "exciting" arguments. I'm no audiophile though.

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Re: Are We, The Audiophiles, Mentally Unstable?
« Reply #18 on: May 04, 2020, 17:30 »
No worries, I'm just suggesting...either way, this is a contentious topic which will sure to evoke some "exciting" arguments. I'm no audiophile though.
No problem bro, we're too bored with this cb & anything that's constructive are most welcomed. Cheers.

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Re: Are We, The Audiophiles, Mentally Unstable?
« Reply #19 on: May 04, 2020, 17:38 »
I agree.  The original title is fine.  It grabs attention.   The distraction from C19 is welcome.
You're most welcomed bro.

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Re: Are We, The Audiophiles, Mentally Unstable?
« Reply #20 on: May 04, 2020, 18:13 »
Mentally unstable.. more like perfectionist . Maybe those spend 5 figure on power cords are mentally unstable

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Re: Are We, The Audiophiles, Mentally Unstable?
« Reply #21 on: May 04, 2020, 19:31 »
Those in the non-audiophile world will probably think that ppl who spend a few hundred bucks on cables are already mentally sick. ;D Having said that, I am sure those who do spend 5 figures amt on cables appreciate the improvement they heard. No, I dont have and cannot afford 5 figure cables
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Re: Are We, The Audiophiles, Mentally Unstable?
« Reply #22 on: May 04, 2020, 21:05 »
The nature of audio products likely played a significant role - many brand choices, wide price range that continually tempts increasing wages/savings as the years go by, many items to buy - cables, preamp, power amp, power conditioner, speakers, etc. It's an endless shopping list.

With hifi, it's easy to fall trap into chasing any sound improvements, making numerous purchases - tighter bass, higher notes, lush midrange what not. In the assembly of a hifi system, likely more than one audio brand will be involved - different audio brands will have their own beliefs/perspectives on audio/engineering design & they have varied engineering abilities too. Also, room acoustics is one tricky consideration too. There are many unknowns, giving rise to a wide range of possibilities on how one's hifi system will sound. The credibility test of hifi is only through one sensory organ - hearing; any sound changes from any new item can only be heard with certainty in one's room. It's easy to arouse curiosity in people, getting people to have wild imaginations of how good an audio product will sound at home. All these easily set people up on a wild goose chase. There are many hurdles to cross before a quality timeless system can be assembled - much trial and error and critical contemplation needed.

Always good to have focus on musicality because this is what moves our souls and the reason why many first embarked on hifi. With musicality, one is more likely to listen to one's system more and focus less on upgrading.

Personally, I also find the ease of listening to music to be influential in how often one listens to his/her hifi system - I.e. playing/switching easily many genres/songs from a tablet/phone. The human soul is intuitive and fluid. This mode of song selection will be more likely to enable one to explore songs one has never heard before in his/her digital music collection and bring about pleasant surprises. If one has, example Tidal app on his/her hifi system, this allows one to seamlessly explore unexplored genres/songs that one never even knew one would enjoy - which fulfils the reason why we listen to music, to be moved, to be engaged.

My opinion, YMMV :P

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Re: Are We, The Audiophiles, Mentally Unstable?
« Reply #23 on: May 04, 2020, 22:45 »
Those in the non-audiophile world will probably think that ppl who spend a few hundred bucks on cables are already mentally sick. ;D Having said that, I am sure those who do spend 5 figures amt on cables appreciate the improvement they heard. No, I dont have and cannot afford 5 figure cables

maybe everyone who goes extreme in any hobby falls into same category.

those who spend 5 figures on fish, 5 figures on food, 5 figures on watch, 5 figures for bags, 5 figures for camera lenses, etc..

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Re: Are We, The Audiophiles, Mentally Unstable?
« Reply #24 on: May 05, 2020, 10:01 »
Telling the ladies .. listen.. the vocal is from the center 3 feet behind the speakers, singer voice sound warm, music instrument has a clear separation, sound stage is very wide and airy... etc.. they might think we are "mentally unstable" (siao).  ;D

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Re: Are We, The Audiophiles, Mentally Unstable?
« Reply #25 on: May 05, 2020, 10:55 »
Telling the ladies .. listen.. the vocal is from the center 3 feet behind the speakers, singer voice sound warm, music instrument has a clear separation, sound stage is very wide and airy... etc.. they might think we are "mentally unstable" (siao).  ;D
Good take.

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Re: Are We, The Audiophiles, Mentally Unstable?
« Reply #26 on: May 05, 2020, 11:18 »
don't think count as mentally unstable bah, i have to agree with botak, spending $10k on a bag, but a $100 or $1000 one does the same thing, though on that note, i do also buy other stuff that seems expensive to some, shoes, bags, but i generally don't buy branded but buy good quality, branded doesn't mean quality, but quality might also be branded.

same think for audio for me, though i'm very new to this, but i try to get everything to be about as good as i can afford/ willing to pay for, so there's no weak link. i don't spend thousands on speakers and skimp on amplifier, or source. i have to say, i'm quite happy with where i am right now, i just don't know how good this setup is (don't have audio siao friends to share knowledge). on paper might not look like much, but at least to those who have heard, they are all surprised that it didn't cost as much as they expected.


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Re: Are We, The Audiophiles, Mentally Unstable?
« Reply #27 on: May 05, 2020, 11:53 »
Good take.

She will say: "你找死呀? 你听贱女人唱歌." Lol
hahahahaha.... KNS! When Jealousy strikes, got so gentle one mehh?!!
It should be...
"哦。。。別的女人唱歌就像鳥叫,我唱歌就像殺鷄叫!好呀!
今晚你就抱著你的音響,唱片睡覺!不必聽我打呼像豬叫!!!"

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« Reply #28 on: May 05, 2020, 12:02 »
hahahahaha.... KNS! When Jealousy strikes, got so gentle one mehh?!!
It should be...
"哦。。。別的女人唱歌就像鳥叫,我唱歌就像殺鷄叫!好呀!
今晚你就抱著你的音響,唱片睡覺!不必聽我打呼像豬叫!!!"
Look like you're more experienced than me in this aspect.

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Re: Are We, The Audiophiles, Mentally Unstable?
« Reply #29 on: May 06, 2020, 18:25 »
some ppl play hifi
some ppl play car
some ppl play photography
some ppl play woman

to each its own to find their moments of happiness la
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Re: Are We, The Audiophiles, Mentally Unstable?
« Reply #30 on: May 06, 2020, 19:15 »
No matter what ppl play, the spending are never ending.

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« Reply #31 on: May 06, 2020, 20:36 »
Look like you're more experienced than me in this aspect.
Don't stay @ hm, tio complain.
Stay @ hm, listen hi-fi setup, also tio hiam... Sigh... Modern husband No freedom.

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Re: Are We, The Audiophiles, Mentally Unstable?
« Reply #32 on: May 06, 2020, 20:44 »
Looks like some bros have all the luck (no complaints from wifey).

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Re: Are We, The Audiophiles, Mentally Unstable?
« Reply #33 on: May 06, 2020, 21:24 »
Where got perfect one.

Wife see you spend the money on HiFi instead on her, how to keep quiet?
Wife see the time you spend with the HiFi, sure to feel neglected.

It's all about wife management.

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