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Re: NAS for streaming movies and music
« Reply #30 on: March 14, 2020, 21:10 »
Interestingly I have even more queries with Jag and Sigurros shared your views, really good discussion for benefit of all.

1) If my QNAP 873 spoilt in future, but HDD intact, can I get another QNAP 8 bay, put back the HDD inside and get back my data?

2) Why creating more Volumes will help instead of creating a single volume?

I'm not a NAS expert. There are many more NAS experts than me here. But here's what I feel:

1) If the NAS (say PSU or the NAS motherboard) goes kaput, the NAS companies will claim that the future models will be downward compatible with older NAS models. How true that is anybody's guess. I don't have faith in anybody's promises when it comes to my family's valuable photos and docs. Technically, yes you can put the intact HDDs into a new 873. In reality, when a NAS is faulty, there is a finite chance that the HDD circuits were also damaged beyond repair.

2) I have 1 volume per disk.

That said, I'm sure there are better ways than my practise...
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Re: NAS for streaming movies and music
« Reply #31 on: March 15, 2020, 12:34 »
1) If the NAS (say PSU or the NAS motherboard) goes kaput, the NAS companies will claim that the future models will be downward compatible with older NAS models. How true that is anybody's guess. I don't have faith in anybody's promises when it comes to my family's valuable photos and docs. Technically, yes you can put the intact HDDs into a new 873. In reality, when a NAS is faulty, there is a finite chance that the HDD circuits were also damaged beyond repair.

This underscores what I feel is the biggest risk in using such NAS. If the motherboard goes kaput and the NAS company has moved on, the entire array is at risk. You can't even restore your data due to the way actual RAID implementation can differ between companies.

Instead, I use a server PC and a 'RAID' software called 'unraid' which essentially treats the array as "just a bunch of discs" - JBOD. Each disk in the array can be a different size, and they can be removed and accessed individually in a PC.

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Re: NAS for streaming movies and music
« Reply #32 on: March 15, 2020, 12:42 »
Instead, I use a server PC and a 'RAID' software called 'unraid' which essentially treats the array as "just a bunch of discs" - JBOD. Each disk in the array can be a different size, and they can be removed and accessed individually in a PC.

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Re: NAS for streaming movies and music
« Reply #33 on: March 15, 2020, 14:57 »
This underscores what I feel is the biggest risk in using such NAS. If the motherboard goes kaput and the NAS company has moved on, the entire array is at risk. You can't even restore your data due to the way actual RAID implementation can differ between companies.

Instead, I use a server PC and a 'RAID' software called 'unraid' which essentially treats the array as "just a bunch of discs" - JBOD. Each disk in the array can be a different size, and they can be removed and accessed individually in a PC.

So is it considered RAID with redundancy? What happened if any of the disc spoilt? Can the data be auto recover once you replace the spoilt docs?

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Re: NAS for streaming movies and music
« Reply #34 on: March 15, 2020, 22:02 »
Hi.
If i may ask, any reason for not considering Asustor?

I am reading up on the NAS, and similarly will be using Zidoo or Zappiti media players

Thanks

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Re: NAS for streaming movies and music
« Reply #35 on: March 15, 2020, 22:21 »
I have never encountered any issues to migrate the hard disks from old NAS to new NAS so long one stick to same number bays and brand via direct swap. Since 2007 till date, only my 4 bays NAS failed once after 8 years due to PSU failure. All I did is put the hard disks in accordance to the respective slot as is and my NAS is back online. That is my experience with Synology so I will not speak the same for Qnap.

If one want to do JBOD via computer, the risk is there too, once the server is down, one need to factor in installation, troubleshooting etc. A standalone NAS will excuse one who is not savy in IT and recover at ease.

For precious data stored in NAS, DO RAID 10 under 4 hard disks, then follow by external backup or cloud backup like AWS. The key reason for NAS is one is able to access/download/upload files easily anywhere, shared files with family members at easily. At the same time, playback video and music con-currently via standalone app.

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Re: NAS for streaming movies and music
« Reply #36 on: March 16, 2020, 09:21 »
So is it considered RAID with redundancy? What happened if any of the disc spoilt? Can the data be auto recover once you replace the spoilt docs?
You can configure for one or two parity discs, so it has similar redundancy protection. If any of the disc is spoilt, same as any RAID. Replace and it would rebuild.

It supports standard PC components (software and hardware), so I can run 10Gbe, run a Roon server, torrent, amongst many other things on the same PC.

It does require more IT knowledge, so your mileage would vary.

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Re: NAS for streaming movies and music
« Reply #37 on: March 16, 2020, 09:27 »
I have never encountered any issues to migrate the hard disks from old NAS to new NAS so long one stick to same number bays and brand via direct swap. Since 2007 till date, only my 4 bays NAS failed once after 8 years due to PSU failure. All I did is put the hard disks in accordance to the respective slot as is and my NAS is back online. That is my experience with Synology so I will not speak the same for Qnap.

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My first NAS is the Synology DS1010+ and is still in perfect working condition with 6 monthly maintenance schedule till to-date. The only problem encountered are 3 HDD failures which was replaced without any loss of data. All HD media migrated to DS1515+ with DX511 five years ago.

Currently the DS1010+ is dedicated solely for CCTV recording, streaming music and backup for documents (photos, etc) from iMac and Windows PC due to the slower processor.

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Re: NAS for streaming movies and music
« Reply #38 on: March 16, 2020, 23:10 »
Yup, on top of that, so long both NAS are on same OS version, generally is very safe as per Synology. HDD failures are unavoidable be it hosted in NAS or desktop. From my experience, 7200rpm yields a better longevity than 5400rpm; likewise enterprise drives if one has the budget. Ditto re the migration, so much easier to migrate via Rsync, so long you point it to the correct storage pool, it is very straight forward. For one with multiple NAS at home, can even allocate a small part of the storage pool to backup precious data before moving to external/cloud backup.

Save the hassle over direct drag and drop transfer as migration - it is a painful manual process. Also, uplift the stress load of the desktop and allows one to use the system as ease. Avoid kid mistakenly cancel the process too! Nowadays, NAS has support of 10Gbe so it can blends into the home IT infrastructure easily assuming one has bumped up router and switch with 10Gbe respectively.