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Is Network streamer necessary?
« on: April 16, 2019, 07:49 »
Hi all,

I'm currently using my avr x7200wa to stream spotify and I'm thinking is there anyway to improve the the sound. than I came across chromecast audio and bluesound node 2.

since the avr is capable of streaming "very high" quality ( according to the spotify app) do I was thinking is it necessary to add CCA or node 2? will there be any significant improvement?

in the future I may join the tidal force.

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Re: Is Network streamer necessary?
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2019, 08:36 »
If you can tell FLAC 0 apart from WAV then it's worth.
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Re: Is Network streamer necessary?
« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2019, 08:41 »
If you can tell FLAC 0 apart from WAV then it's worth.
since CCA unable to do flac, so I'm suppose u are talking are node 2?
means CCA not worth it?

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Re: Is Network streamer necessary?
« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2019, 08:49 »
since CCA unable to do flac, so I'm suppose u are talking are node 2?
means CCA not worth it?

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I was just given you seen examples.  Both FLAC 0 and WAV are lossless technically while former is a compressed.

Your 7200WA can play both and see if you can hear the different.  If you can , means been cursed , then ...
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Re: Is Network streamer necessary?
« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2019, 08:51 »
IMHO, if you are going to use the AVR as your preamp with a higher end streamer, it will not make much of a difference if any, as the AVR will still be the bottleneck.  :P
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Re: Is Network streamer necessary?
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2019, 09:14 »
Using an alternate means to give it a digital feed will not yield any improvement.

We have customers using Lumin D2 (Spotify Connect MQA Tidal Qobuz Roon Ready) with analog output to Denon and reported positively.  The Denon should be switched to Pure Direct mode.
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Re: Is Network streamer necessary?
« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2019, 12:49 »
IMHO, if you are going to use the AVR as your preamp with a higher end streamer, it will not make much of a difference if any, as the AVR will still be the bottleneck. 
if node 2, will be using its onboard dac and run analog out to the avr.

main function will be streaming online music, spotify and tidal.

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Re: Is Network streamer necessary?
« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2019, 13:36 »
Yes, of course this should be the way to connect and it's also what I was referring to.
What I meant was the AVR will "limit" the SQ of what your streamer analog outputs can deliver.
But if you are going this route, it's still possible to have slight improvement.
Just don't spend too much on the streamer unless you are prepared to spend more on a dedicated stereo preamp or Integrated amp with HT-Bypass.

if node 2, will be using its onboard dac and run analog out to the avr.

main function will be streaming online music, spotify and tidal.

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Re: Is Network streamer necessary?
« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2019, 13:42 »
Yes, of course this should be the way to connect and it's also what I was referring to.
What I meant was the AVR will "limit" the SQ of what your streamer analog outputs can deliver.
But if you are going this route, it's still possible to have slight improvement.
Just don't spend too much on the streamer unless you are prepared to spend more on a dedicated stereo preamp or Integrated amp with HT-Bypass.
what's the guideline?
looking at node 2 around 500

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Re: Is Network streamer necessary?
« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2019, 22:34 »
Streamer as preamp, avr as power amp. Should yield some improvement.

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Re: Is Network streamer necessary?
« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2019, 16:35 »
Bros

Any streamer that can do DSD audio and has HT bypass ?
Can Cambridge Audio CVN do ht bypass?

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