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Magnepan owner in Singapore
« on: January 05, 2019, 22:04 »
My new 3.7i should arrive next week , I know there are a few members in XP using Maggie or panel speaker , care to share your experience ;D

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« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2019, 07:06 »
Congrats. The Maggie were my first panel panels and to date, I have always a soft spot of them. If you switched from a box speaker to this, you may need to get use to the bass. Bass is very tight but may tend to be a lower in quantity and the trick is to vary its distance from the back wall. Toe in to taste to get your sweet spot. I think augmenting the bass with a sub or dual subs would yield dividends. Room treatment would differ from conventional box speakers.
You may also consider doing away with side walls treatment as they make negligible impact.

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« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2019, 09:32 »
Congrats. Looking forward to some pictures. I had 3.6R way back. Nice transparency. But difficult to get the bass out.


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Re: Magnepan owner in Singapore
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2019, 11:22 »
Give it plenty of juice, after market stand make a diff but most looks ugly . Play until nothing to play can change fuses.  :D

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« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2019, 12:40 »
Oh, very important do not allow strong wind or stupid friends or blow on on true ribbon tweeters. :-X




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Re: Magnepan owner in Singapore
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2019, 22:08 »
still sticking with magnepan.

recently gotten a pair of MMG-W and MMG-C. Trying out the tri-center concept.

U gotten the 3.7i from absolute? I thought they stopped carrying the brand?

last year, the tweeter on my MG1.5 died. Called them up, they dont do repair for broken QR tweeters.

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« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2019, 22:29 »
I've owned the Maggies too and I love the unboxy sound. Perfect match for high powered Naim. What I like is that the speakers are easy to shift and you can play with the positioning without breaking your back. Remember to change the biwiring stock jumper plate to copper cable.

Peeve? Our humidity (you definitely need aircon) makes maintenance of this speaker  a  challenge. 300b tube lover can forget it
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« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2019, 23:11 »
Don’t know how maggies are today, It requires lots of juice for it to wake up & it’s got a tight sweet spot not to mention room sensitive especially smaller listening rooms. It needs space to breath. Oh for me asthetics are important too, don’t like the looks of 2 big partition like objects to look at. lol

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« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2019, 23:24 »
Congrats. The Maggie were my first panel panels and to date, I have always a soft spot of them. If you switched from a box speaker to this, you may need to get use to the bass. Bass is very tight but may tend to be a lower in quantity and the trick is to vary its distance from the back wall. Toe in to taste to get your sweet spot. I think augmenting the bass with a sub or dual subs would yield dividends. Room treatment would differ from conventional box speakers.
You may also consider doing away with side walls treatment as they make negligible impact.

I own the MG1.4 and Apogee planer many year ago, I give out because I feel it don’t have enough bass punch for the pop music at that time , but I seldom listen pop music nowadays , so I started to miss the soundstage and lifelike presentation of planer speaker....before purchase the 3.7i I went to the dealer showrooms to have a feel of the bass , yes agree the bass is not as emphasised as box speaker , but the 3.7i do give enough bass for most music, in fact I feel the bass is much nature than box design...

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« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2019, 23:26 »
Congrats. Looking forward to some pictures. I had 3.6R way back. Nice transparency. But difficult to get the bass out.


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May I know how many years you have use the 3.6R? Any problem so far?

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« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2019, 23:29 »
Give it plenty of juice, after market stand make a diff but most looks ugly . Play until nothing to play can change fuses.  :D



Going to use either Cary 211 or Jeff Rowland 501 and 201 , too bad the 3.7i cannot do bi amp...

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« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2019, 23:30 »
I've owned the Maggies too and I love the unboxy sound. Perfect match for high powered Naim. What I like is that the speakers are easy to shift and you can play with the positioning without breaking your back. Remember to change the biwiring stock jumper plate to copper cable.

Peeve? Our humidity (you definitely need aircon) makes maintenance of this speaker  a  challenge. 300b tube lover can forget it

I like the soundstage and lifelike imaging , may I know which model you using now?

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« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2019, 23:37 »
I used the 1.7 last time and has since sold it. Nearly bought the 3.7 but it was too imposing in my living room.. You need a high current powerful solid state amp to drive.

If you have a large room, the panels double up as a accoutic panel for your box speakers
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« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2019, 23:41 »
Don’t know how maggies are today, It requires lots of juice for it to wake up & it’s got a tight sweet spot not to mention room sensitive especially smaller listening rooms. It needs space to breath. Oh for me asthetics are important too, don’t like the looks of 2 big partition like objects to look at. lol

New model come with a oval shape base, my pair look something like this


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« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2019, 23:46 »
I used the 1.7 last time and has since sold it. Nearly bought the 3.7 but it was too imposing in my living room.. You need a high current powerful solid state amp to drive.

If you have a large room, the panels double up as a accoutic panel for your box speakers

The Jeff Rowland 501 claim to have 45A output max, hope it drive well.

Actually I am more excited about how it would sound with the Cary 211 mono block , push pull 300B driving 845 tube , 50watt class A/ 200 watt class B , the ribbon should sound nice with triode power tube

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Re: Magnepan owner in Singapore
« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2019, 10:45 »
i own the 1.7 since about 2011 and i love them for the soundstage, detail and true to life imaging, especially for classical music.  No issues with humidity because i keep them in air conditioned room and also use a dehumidifier regularly.

I would agree that they are not so suitable for Pop / Rock music. Because they don't give you the overemphasised bass, and also because in Pop/rock concerts you are not listening "live" but through dynamic box speakers, so they will sound different.

I am thinking of upgrading to the 3.7i. are they much bigger or better than the 1.7? Is there a trade-in option? Care to share who is the dealer in SG or do you have to import from US, as I heard the dealer in Adelphi no longer carries.

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« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2019, 11:58 »
You can talk to siva from absolute sound he use to have a pair of 3.5 driven with VTL 225 or 300 but don't ask him about how many tweeter he headbang to hell.  ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #17 on: January 07, 2019, 17:00 »
i own the 1.7 since about 2011 and i love them for the soundstage, detail and true to life imaging, especially for classical music.  No issues with humidity because i keep them in air conditioned room and also use a dehumidifier regularly.

I would agree that they are not so suitable for Pop / Rock music. Because they don't give you the overemphasised bass, and also because in Pop/rock concerts you are not listening "live" but through dynamic box speakers, so they will sound different.

I am thinking of upgrading to the 3.7i. are they much bigger or better than the 1.7? Is there a trade-in option? Care to share who is the dealer in SG or do you have to import from US, as I heard the dealer in Adelphi no longer carries.

the ribbon tweeter in the 3 series makes a great difference from the QR in the in 1 series.

and also you get more of the bass, provided you drive it with beefy amps.

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« Reply #18 on: January 07, 2019, 17:36 »
i own the 1.7 since about 2011 and i love them for the soundstage, detail and true to life imaging, especially for classical music.  No issues with humidity because i keep them in air conditioned room and also use a dehumidifier regularly.

I would agree that they are not so suitable for Pop / Rock music. Because they don't give you the overemphasised bass, and also because in Pop/rock concerts you are not listening "live" but through dynamic box speakers, so they will sound different.

I am thinking of upgrading to the 3.7i. are they much bigger or better than the 1.7? Is there a trade-in option? Care to share who is the dealer in SG or do you have to import from US, as I heard the dealer in Adelphi no longer carries.

TAS appointed a dealer to sell the Maggie , although TAS is still the distributer that arrange the order and transportation.

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Maggie price in SG is expensive , I ask before , it is about $600 more than Hong Kong , and TAS service is really quite lousy IMO , my speaker already reach shop this morning but they have to wait till Friday than can deliver...maybe if I buy FM they will able to deliver when ever I want , perhap Maggie is too cheap for them to  put in effort , LOL ;D

I heard the 1.7(non I) compare the 3.7 (non I) in dealer room, 1.7 is quite good, but the 3.7 sound is more effortless and the ribbon tweeter transient and attack is much faster then the 1.7 QR tweeter , overall the 3.7 is a more relax sounding, with deeper bass and able to handle wider dynamic range the 1.7 , although 1.7 sound a little bit more coherent between high and bass, mid bass also a tad more punchy , but still 3.7 is a better speaker  IMHO
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« Reply #19 on: January 07, 2019, 19:21 »
May I know how many years you have use the 3.6R? Any problem so far?
I used them 2-3 years. No problem except the crossover boxes got rusted due to humidity. And tweeter fuse blew once.


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« Reply #20 on: January 07, 2019, 19:46 »
I used a pair of Jadis tube monoblock running at 80watt per channel at pure Class A and the Maggie made my amp pants. Most tube amps cannot rock the Maggie. I used a 500 watt Bryston later but I didn't like the synergy. That was the reason why I sold it.

The Jeff Rowland 501 claim to have 45A output max, hope it drive well.

Actually I am more excited about how it would sound with the Cary 211 mono block , push pull 300B driving 845 tube , 50watt class A/ 200 watt class B , the ribbon should sound nice with triode power tube
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« Reply #21 on: January 07, 2019, 20:11 »
Early Maggies & Apogees reminds me of a bad marriage. You want the woman so much marry her & discovered that your enslave to her. In short unless you’ve got the right amp for the Maggies you’ll be caught up in changing amps just for the sake of getting them to sing which to me is mooted point. Will end up as divorce. Lol

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« Reply #22 on: January 07, 2019, 20:23 »
TAS appointed a dealer to sell the Maggie , although TAS is still the distributer that arrange the order and transportation.

AudioRev
158 Kallang Way, #05-11 Performance Building
8223 3547

Maggie price in SG is expensive , I ask before , it is about $600 more than Hong Kong , and TAS service is really quite lousy IMO , my speaker already reach shop this morning but they have to wait till Friday than can deliver...maybe if I buy FM they will able to deliver when ever I want , perhap Maggie is too cheap for them to  put in effort , LOL ;D

I heard the 1.7(non I) compare the 3.7 (non I) in dealer room, 1.7 is quite good, but the 3.7 sound is more effortless and the ribbon tweeter transient and attack is much faster then the 1.7 QR tweeter , overall the 3.7 is a more relax sounding, with deeper bass and able to handle wider dynamic range the 1.7 , although 1.7 sound a little bit more coherent between high and bass, mid bass also a tad more punchy , but still 3.7 is a better speaker  IMHO

No need, order the 30.7 chinese dividers you sure get fast delivery.   ;D

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« Reply #23 on: January 07, 2019, 21:31 »
I own the MG1.4 and Apogee planer many year ago, I give out because I feel it don’t have enough bass punch for the pop music at that time , but I seldom listen pop music nowadays , so I started to miss the soundstage and lifelike presentation of planer speaker....before purchase the 3.7i I went to the dealer showrooms to have a feel of the bass , yes agree the bass is not as emphasised as box speaker , but the 3.7i do give enough bass for most music, in fact I feel the bass is much nature than box design...

I had a jolida 60W integrated driving a MG 1.6 then. I like this pairing alot and thought it gave vocals and string instruments a more natural feel. I upgraded to pass pre power later on and that was a very good match. I thought string instruments and lifelike size vocals were its strength then. If not for the size of the panels, I would still love to own a pair of maggies... I suspect that down the road, i would gravitate towards the Maggies again.

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Re: Magnepan owner in Singapore
« Reply #24 on: January 10, 2019, 13:31 »
speaker placement is very important to get the bass too.

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« Reply #25 on: January 12, 2019, 22:57 »
Enjoying music now



My 3.7i

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« Reply #26 on: January 12, 2019, 23:00 »
The dealer ordered wrong color for me , running in now..... thanks to the room acoustic design , now bass and tonal balance is already quite good, it is the soundstage and imaging I still cannot decide where is the compromise point, some position I got very good soundstage but diffuse imaging , some positions is another way round.....position keep changing pass 2 days due to seasoning of speaker , differences recording and change of equipment , but it is fun😬
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Re: Magnepan owner in Singapore
« Reply #27 on: January 12, 2019, 23:43 »
You mean tweeters on the inside vs tweeter on the outside.


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« Reply #28 on: January 13, 2019, 13:13 »
You mean tweeters on the inside vs tweeter on the outside.



No, toe in angle and listening distance

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« Reply #29 on: January 15, 2019, 19:20 »
What’s the size of your listening room? Thanks

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« Reply #30 on: January 15, 2019, 20:04 »
Great thing about line source speakers is that side wall, floor & ceiling reflections are far less worrisome.
Looks like your room is tailored for the Maggies. Congrats

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« Reply #31 on: January 16, 2019, 01:21 »
What’s the size of your listening room? Thanks

3.3 m width x 5.5 m depth , ceiling is  2.9m

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« Reply #32 on: January 16, 2019, 01:23 »
Great thing about line source speakers is that side wall, floor & ceiling reflections are far less worrisome.
Looks like your room is tailored for the Maggies. Congrats

Most speaker sound fine in my room, not perfect but easy to get the sound I want after little adjustment.


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« Reply #33 on: February 11, 2019, 10:18 »
Picking up the discussion.

A long time ago, I had the SMGc's, but foolishly sold them. I've wanted to get a pair again, and some 10-12 years ago I walked into Absolute Sound in Adelphi. I was quoted almost S$9,000 for the small 5.1 model, meaning 6 panels).

I walked out because it didn't make sense. From what I've read and heard, they seem to be the same now.

I wonder if it's possible to do an MO, for say the 0.X or 1.X models.

Daniel

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« Reply #34 on: February 15, 2019, 10:29 »
Picking up the discussion.

A long time ago, I had the SMGc's, but foolishly sold them. I've wanted to get a pair again, and some 10-12 years ago I walked into Absolute Sound in Adelphi. I was quoted almost S$9,000 for the small 5.1 model, meaning 6 panels).

I walked out because it didn't make sense. From what I've read and heard, they seem to be the same now.

I wonder if it's possible to do an MO, for say the 0.X or 1.X models.

Daniel

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Problem with Magnaplan is after a few year it need to send back agent for recondition , if buy direct from US shipping back to US might be a problem , I not sure whether TAS technician willing to help re-glue the speaker or not if it wasn’t buy from them..

I heard TAS told me the 3.7i do not require recondition because not the panel is glue at both side of the voice coil instead of only one side like older model, but I doubt so because I did hear some sign of distortion on a pair of used 3.7 I interested to buy before I order the 3.7i....anyway I ask before Hong kong 3.7i is about 8% cheaper than Singapore at last year NOV when TAS retail price is 9k plus , but beginning of this years TAS increased the retail price of 3.7i and now it cost $10k plus , I think the different is even more.

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« Reply #35 on: February 21, 2019, 21:45 »
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« Reply #36 on: March 03, 2019, 19:50 »
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« Reply #37 on: March 07, 2019, 14:11 »
Finally the correct finishing pair arrived ... more matching with my deco ;D



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« Reply #38 on: March 07, 2019, 16:43 »
Alamak, must re-run in again.  ::) :o

Finally the correct finishing pair arrived ... more matching with my deco ;D




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« Reply #39 on: March 07, 2019, 19:27 »
Alamak, must re-run in again.  ::) :o


This pair sound much better just open box, because the Color is more matching to the environment 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Just kidding, at least I already know where is the best position and did some mod on the base before hand, my pair can screw in spike , originally cannot.😬

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« Reply #40 on: March 08, 2019, 07:35 »