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 Hi. Anybody encounter this too? My audio only tuners now having problem receiving fm programmes. I thought only analog TV is off. Look like FM also gone along with it  ??? :'(

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Re: HDB off The Central antennae? Now FM also cannot received?
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2019, 18:57 »
Hi. Anybody encounter this too? My audio only tuners now having problem receiving fm programmes. I thought only analog TV is off. Look like FM also gone along with it  ??? :'(

I have the same problem at my condo. First noticed it on 2 Jan morning. Have asked management office to look into this but they haven't given me an update yet.

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Re: HDB off The Central antennae? Now FM also cannot received?
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2019, 19:01 »
I think it’s true. I checked with some regular radio listeners and all same effect. I think people handling this overlook the fm radio part. They just off the whole thing !

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Re: HDB off The Central antennae? Now FM also cannot received?
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2019, 19:04 »
I mean to say they just shut down the whole analog antennae since MediaCorp no longer broadcast analog tv. But they forget we still need it for FM radio.

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Re: HDB off The Central antennae? Now FM also cannot received?
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2019, 19:50 »

I sent my Audiolab 8000T to ParAudio ( part of City Electronics ) on referral by their UK principal  this morning

after I got a reply from Lawrence Teo to my email dated 4th Jan,  for which I paid $64.20 for service charge.

I have just written to Lawrence Teo referring to this likelihood affecting Analog Tuners and hope that he will refund me the Service charge if it is a fact that all tuners cannot use HDB Antennae.

I just hope he is understanding enough to do the right thing and maintain a good image and company branding.




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Re: HDB off The Central antennae? Now FM also cannot received?
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2019, 21:04 »
I sent my Audiolab 8000T to ParAudio ( part of City Electronics ) on referral by their UK principal  this morning

after I got a reply from Lawrence Teo to my email dated 4th Jan,  for which I paid $64.20 for service charge.

I have just written to Lawrence Teo referring to this likelihood affecting Analog Tuners and hope that he will refund me the Service charge if it is a fact that all tuners cannot use HDB Antennae.

I just hope he is understanding enough to do the right thing and maintain a good image and company branding.

This is not the repair person fault tat analog radio kena stopped.
He has done the job for you.
Please pay him what he is due.
Dun be such a cheapskate.

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Re: HDB off The Central antennae? Now FM also cannot received?
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2019, 22:09 »
I sent my Audiolab 8000T to ParAudio ( part of City Electronics ) on referral by their UK principal  this morning

after I got a reply from Lawrence Teo to my email dated 4th Jan,  for which I paid $64.20 for service charge.

I have just written to Lawrence Teo referring to this likelihood affecting Analog Tuners and hope that he will refund me the Service charge if it is a fact that all tuners cannot use HDB Antennae.

I just hope he is understanding enough to do the right thing and maintain a good image and company branding.





Am i misunderstand or you really asking the company which diagnosed/repaired your set to refund you as your set has no issue but just garment shut off hdb fm transmission?
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Re: HDB off The Central antennae? Now FM also cannot received?
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2019, 22:29 »
I read it as ginkonut thought his tuner is faulty so he send to agent to check and repair. Since he now know that it is the antenna that is the problem there is no repair needed or done. So he is hoping the agent will refund the amount he paid for sending in his tuner.

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Re: HDB off The Central antennae? Now FM also cannot received?
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2019, 22:31 »
Does the radio only impact for HDB? I was taking taxi yesterday and the taxi uncle was listening to FM radio.

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Re: HDB off The Central antennae? Now FM also cannot received?
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2019, 22:47 »
I read it as ginkonut thought his tuner is faulty so he send to agent to check and repair. Since he now know that it is the antenna that is the problem there is no repair needed or done. So he is hoping the agent will refund the amount he paid for sending in his tuner.

That’s the way I read it too. But the thing is paraudio might not appreciate being “arm twisted”... no matter how subtlely...into giving a refund for service charge...in a public forum. I don’t think many ppl would.

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« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2019, 23:10 »
That’s the way I read it too. But the thing is paraudio might not appreciate being “arm twisted”... no matter how subtlely...into giving a refund for service charge...in a public forum. I don’t think many ppl would.

The thing is many were caught unaware of this problem...... If servicing work has been done.... then IMHO it's perfectly fair to charge for servicing.

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Re: HDB off The Central antennae? Now FM also cannot received?
« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2019, 23:18 »
Does the radio only impact for HDB? I was taking taxi yesterday and the taxi uncle was listening to FM radio.

Not confined to HDB. I have the same problem at my condo.

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« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2019, 23:26 »
The thing is many were caught unaware of this problem...... If servicing work has been done.... then IMHO it's perfectly fair to charge for servicing.

I’m of the same opinion. It’s just an unfortunate situation. The man did work in good faith so it’s reasonable for him to be paid.

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Re: HDB off The Central antennae? Now FM also cannot received?
« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2019, 05:32 »
Does the radio only impact for HDB? I was taking taxi yesterday and the taxi uncle was listening to FM radio.

Both my radios at home used external antenna.  You can still received FM signal using this method.

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Re: HDB off The Central antennae? Now FM also cannot received?
« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2019, 08:16 »
I just used a cheap Y or T type indoor antenna can receive already.

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Re: HDB off The Central antennae? Now FM also cannot received?
« Reply #15 on: January 06, 2019, 08:27 »
External Antenna will definitely work.. or else the all the cars in Singapore suddenly all got no radio.

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Re: HDB off The Central antennae? Now FM also cannot received?
« Reply #16 on: January 06, 2019, 16:10 »
I've had to dig up the supplied FM antenna for my AV amp. At least I have my tuner reception restored now. I wonder what they are going to do with the central antenna, if they are going to do anything at all.

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Re: HDB off The Central antennae? Now FM also cannot received?
« Reply #17 on: January 06, 2019, 16:45 »
I read it as ginkonut thought his tuner is faulty so he send to agent to check and repair. Since he now know that it is the antenna that is the problem there is no repair needed or done. So he is hoping the agent will refund the amount he paid for sending in his tuner.

Yes, this is the situation.

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« Reply #18 on: January 06, 2019, 17:06 »

When I read in this forum on the situation I wrote an email to Mr Lawrence Teo yesterday :

 "..I have looked up this website and discovered that it is probably due to the HDB switching off the whole analog antennae.
If this situation is confirmed to be true, would your company refund the service charge that I have paid. "

Item was sent in towards 11.30 yesterday and email was sent around 7.30 just after what I read here. I am of the presumption that a company in the Audio, Video business and repair technician ought to know about the discontinuation of Analog transmission.

I do not know whether it has been sent for repair yet but whatever, I am just asking the owner.
If the business model is to forfeit the s/c then I have no choice but to accept t as otherwise I won't be able to get my tuner back never mind if co. or tech know or do not know that Analog is no more available  which is a moot point.


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Re: HDB off The Central antennae? Now FM also cannot received?
« Reply #19 on: January 06, 2019, 17:36 »
Many companies, (if not all) were not informed.
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Re: HDB off The Central antennae? Now FM also cannot received?
« Reply #20 on: January 06, 2019, 17:36 »
When I read in this forum on the situation I wrote an email to Mr Lawrence Teo yesterday :

 "..I have looked up this website and discovered that it is probably due to the HDB switching off the whole analog antennae.
If this situation is confirmed to be true, would your company refund the service charge that I have paid. "

Item was sent in towards 11.30 yesterday and email was sent around 7.30 just after what I read here. I am of the presumption that a company in the Audio, Video business and repair technician ought to know about the discontinuation of Analog transmission.

I do not know whether it has been sent for repair yet but whatever, I am just asking the owner.
If the business model is to forfeit the s/c then I have no choice but to accept t as otherwise I won't be able to get my tuner back never mind if co. or tech know or do not know that Analog is no more available  which is a moot point.

After reading a few posts of yours , I'm start thinking of suing the doctors,  nurses,  and the hospital that treated my late father because his disease was wrongly diagnosed first.

Perhaps you might ring the boss of the company. If he still refuse,  send him a lawyer letter.
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Re: HDB off The Central antennae? Now FM also cannot received?
« Reply #21 on: January 06, 2019, 17:53 »
After reading a few posts of yours , I'm start thinking of suing the doctors,  nurses,  and the hospital that treated my late father because his disease was wrongly diagnosed first.

Perhaps you might ring the boss of the company. If he still refuse,  send him a lawyer letter.
Lol..well said.
Its seems like not everybody know there is something called “diagnostic service charge”, which common in electronic and computer hardware.

And its so serious now when the company who offering the service been correlate with its reputation matter..wow...
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Re: HDB off The Central antennae? Now FM also cannot received?
« Reply #22 on: January 06, 2019, 18:19 »

For the benefit of forumners, I have received an email from Mr Lawrence Teo who has graciously asked me to go and collect the tuner and he will refund me the $64.20 if it is the case that Analog transmission is no longer available in Sg.

As GST of $4.20 has been logged it would not be fair for me to accept the full amount.

Hope that this episode renews our faith in the belief that there are businesses with integrity. In fact this company has been mentioned several times for friendly service and competitive pricing on Marantz cdp by an active old forumner.

Thanks to all forumners on their positive and well considered opinion.

Very much appreciate.

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Re: HDB off The Central antennae? Now FM also cannot received?
« Reply #23 on: January 06, 2019, 18:24 »
Nowadays maintain business really tough...whatever types of customers also has....
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Re: HDB off The Central antennae? Now FM also cannot received?
« Reply #24 on: January 06, 2019, 20:31 »
Lol, I've clients who want us to service the items which they'd bought 10 years ago. Guess what, they want the service to be foc. If everyone are like those clients of mine, then most of the companies would be closed down sooner than later.

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Re: HDB off The Central antennae? Now FM also cannot received?
« Reply #25 on: January 06, 2019, 21:05 »
geez... disgusting
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Re: HDB off The Central antennae? Now FM also cannot received?
« Reply #26 on: January 06, 2019, 23:33 »
Just want to clear some doubts & do correct me if I’m wrong.

1) Analog Radio transmission has no changes at all so there isn’t a need to inform. Unlike Analog TV transmission, it has been widely broadcasted that it will be switched off by 31st Dec 2018.

2) HDB antenna wall outlets has been “discountinued” since the day SCV, now StarHub took over the antenna infrastructure.

3) I think SH is the one who “switched off” their antenna wall outlets due to SH no longer need to deliver the analog TV signals anymore. Regardless of whether it’s Mediacrop channels or SH paid channels as SH has already migrated to using IPTV delivery to kerb illegal set top box from “stealing” their programs feed.

Radio Air transmissions will never be terminated as that is 1 of the mode of public broadcast in times of emergencies. So if you think your FM tuner is faulty, I think the least you could do is to unplug the antenna from the wall outlet and test if you can receive via off the air.

Lastly, to eliminate reception issues, use internet radio like what I do.  :P

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Re: HDB off The Central antennae? Now FM also cannot received?
« Reply #27 on: January 07, 2019, 13:03 »
Next time if anyone car cant start becoz key not putting in and just call car tow service no need worry, with their integrity for sure they will not charge you because you have no right to do basic isolation check before call them. I’ve learnt a good lesson.
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Re: HDB off The Central antennae? Now FM also cannot received?
« Reply #28 on: January 09, 2019, 13:09 »
Just want to clear some doubts & do correct me if I’m wrong.

1) Analog Radio transmission has no changes at all so there isn’t a need to inform. Unlike Analog TV transmission, it has been widely broadcasted that it will be switched off by 31st Dec 2018.

2) HDB antenna wall outlets has been “discountinued” since the day SCV, now StarHub took over the antenna infrastructure.

3) I think SH is the one who “switched off” their antenna wall outlets due to SH no longer need to deliver the analog TV signals anymore. Regardless of whether it’s Mediacrop channels or SH paid channels as SH has already migrated to using IPTV delivery to kerb illegal set top box from “stealing” their programs feed.

Radio Air transmissions will never be terminated as that is 1 of the mode of public broadcast in times of emergencies. So if you think your FM tuner is faulty, I think the least you could do is to unplug the antenna from the wall outlet and test if you can receive via off the air.

Lastly, to eliminate reception issues, use internet radio like what I do.  :P



You're quite right.  Here's an extract of StarHub's FAQ on the cessation of analogue platform:-

Free-to-air radio channels on Analogue platform
1. Why am I unable to get any radio signal from the FM outlet of the StarHub cable point?

Free-to-air radio signals on the Analogue platform will be ceased on 1 January 2019 as it is part of the overall island wide effort to go Digital.

2. How can I continue to get the radio signal from the FM outlet of the StarHub cable point after 1 January 2019?

The free-to-air radio signal is not part of StarHub’s service offering. Hence, we are not the appropriate party to advise on alternatives to receive free-to-air radio signals.

3. I am a StarHub TV subscriber, and using the FM outlet from the StarHub cable point to get the radio signal, will I be affected too after 1 January 2019?

From 1 January 2019, you will not be able to receive the radio channels through the FM outlet via StarHub’s cable point. Free-to-air radio signals on the Analogue platform will be ceased on 1 January 2019 as it is part of the overall effort for all TV Broadcast to go Digital.

4. Are there any replacement and/or compensation for the radio signal discontinuation after 1 January 2019?

The free-to-air radio signal is not part of StarHub’s service offering so there will be no free replacement and/or compensation.

(http://www.starhub.com/business/support/tv/aso-faq.html)

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Re: HDB off The Central antennae? Now FM also cannot received?
« Reply #29 on: January 09, 2019, 13:21 »
I wonder why HDB didn't revive the master antenna system?
The master antenna can continue to deliver the FM radio / DVB-T2 / future FTA signals to the HDB homes.
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The transmitter already turn off, the current band for the ANT not able to pass thru the New freq  band.
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« Reply #31 on: January 09, 2019, 14:30 »
I would think it's bcos of $$$.

I wonder why HDB didn't revive the master antenna system?
The master antenna can continue to deliver the FM radio / DVB-T2 / future FTA signals to the HDB homes.
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Re: HDB off The Central antennae? Now FM also cannot received?
« Reply #32 on: January 09, 2019, 22:31 »
I've had to dig up the supplied FM antenna for my AV amp. At least I have my tuner reception restored now. I wonder what they are going to do with the central antenna, if they are going to do anything at all.

I did the same thing. Recovered a vintage T-wired FM antenna and blutack to a wall to experiment.
Wifey frowning...hidden in a false ceiling would be better.The reception not that great overall, and 2
stations not listenable at all.
Definitely needs some form of FM signal amplification and direction adjustment, I think...
I still have a trusty old antenna amplifier (mains powered) to further try out with a car whip antenna
lying somewhere in one of the junk boxes. All local stations, may want to get rabbit ears type to try...

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Re: HDB off The Central antennae? Now FM also cannot received?
« Reply #33 on: January 22, 2019, 18:54 »
Do any bros here know where we can find a fm antenna contractor to fix a antenna and find the best strength. Currently using a terk. Not very impressed with the reception.

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Re: HDB off The Central antennae? Now FM also cannot received?
« Reply #34 on: January 22, 2019, 20:26 »
Do any bros here know where we can find a fm antenna contractor to fix a antenna and find the best strength. Currently using a terk. Not very impressed with the reception.

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Re: HDB off The Central antennae? Now FM also cannot received?
« Reply #35 on: January 22, 2019, 21:00 »
Nice NY gift from Shiathub!  :'( My 2 vintage sets fully recapped and serviced sitting dead. They didn't give fark for poor us. Looking back it was so nostalgic to flick a switch, instant clean mediacorpse radio and watch the dial illuminate.

Now trying FM antenna but no luck yet to get as clean signal.
Dipole FM Antenna - Ugly and shiat
Old Soundtech rabbit ear antenna with gain - Not satisfied with the static
Now on this Daiyo https://redmart.com/product/daiyo-digital-indoor-slim-passive-antenna-fm--dvbt-2-49824 - clean but not as clean like the wall signal
Still experimenting ...
I feel you bro. My vintage mcintosh mr78 sitting there robbed of its previous glory. Damn it....

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Re: HDB off The Central antennae? Now FM also cannot received?
« Reply #36 on: March 21, 2019, 22:37 »
Hi any bros here using Magnum Dynalab ST2 antenna? Any reviews on it? Do you use it indoors?

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« Reply #37 on: March 22, 2019, 00:34 »
Hi any bros here using Magnum Dynalab ST2 antenna? Any reviews on it? Do you use it indoors?

I Had it before and is quite hopeless if placed inside the room. You would have to stick the antenna out to the open to obtain decent signal

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« Reply #38 on: March 22, 2019, 08:58 »
I Had it before and is quite hopeless if placed inside the room. You would have to stick the antenna out to the open to obtain decent signal
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Re: HDB off The Central antennae? Now FM also cannot received?
« Reply #39 on: March 22, 2019, 11:19 »
Hi any bros here using Magnum Dynalab ST2 antenna? Any reviews on it? Do you use it indoors?
used ST2 indoor last time. Not effective at all.
Switched to building antenna and works.
Indoor antenna depends how is your surrounding.
If surrounded densely with high building, only those rooftop antenna will work.

With this shutdown , in House analog radio is gone forever

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HDB off The Central antennae? Now FM also cannot received?
« Reply #40 on: March 22, 2019, 11:22 »
used ST2 indoor last time. Not effective at all.
Switched to building antenna and works.
Indoor antenna depends how is your surrounding.
If surrounded densely with high building, only those rooftop antenna will work.

With this shutdown , in House analog radio is gone forever
My house cannot link to the HDB antenna sigh...


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