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CES 2019 9-12 Jan
« on: January 02, 2019, 21:02 »
I wonder what we can expect?
HDMI 2.1 TVs?


New amps?
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Re: CES 2019 9-12 Jan
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2019, 07:14 »
HDMI 2.1 won’t be ready until mid or end of the year, SOC just released last October 2018...

Hopefully we can see bigger screen OLED TVs at lower prices , or micro led

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Re: CES 2019 9-12 Jan
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2019, 09:45 »
I wonder what we can expect?
HDMI 2.1 TVs?


New amps?
I think it's still too soon for "real" 2.1 TVs. I'm sure all the TV manufacturers will try to market "eARC" as new "HDMI" upgrade, but I would be extremely surprised to see any real 2.1HDMI TV in 2019. Samsung has already indirectly said that they will be offering free upgrade to new one connect box (with real 2.1 HDMI) for all the high end models of 2018 (Q8 upwards I think) without any charge once the 2.1HDMI one connect box is available, when quizzed if this would apply to future tvs (2019 models) Samsung readily said "yes, it will also apply to 2019 models", which indirectly gives away that they are not ready to with real 2.1 tv.

But what will be interesting is that I believe there will be more 8K tvs or at least prototypes from others as well to match Samsung's Q900 from last year.

I'm fingers crossed that LG announce support for HDR+ & IMAX ENHANCED as well. They might as well throw these two formats into the mix & become the sole TV manufacture to offer every HDR available in 2019, they really have nothing to lose but everything to gain. I wonder what really stops them from adding HDR10+ to the mix.....

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Re: CES 2019 9-12 Jan
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2019, 09:53 »
If I can, I will 'tahan' until 2020, when HDMI 2.1 TVs will be more pervasive. The first few sets will have their own set of issues, especially if the rest of the chain is still HDMI 2.0b
But TVs are long term buys so it's best to be up to date, even if the specs seems a bit of a an overkill now.
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Re: CES 2019 9-12 Jan
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2019, 09:55 »
I wonder what we can expect?
HDMI 2.1 TVs?


New amps?
My prediction:

1)More native 4K projectors .

2)Better sounding Dolby Atmos sound bars .

3)Smart home integration (Alexa - Google Home) into pretty much everything possible .

4)More new Subwoofers with app EQ, built-in wireless receivers & fancy DSPs .

5)New AV processors with support for 13 channel processing.

6) A consumer grade micro-led TV from Samsung (prototype)

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Re: CES 2019 9-12 Jan
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2019, 10:25 »
More MQA too......

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Re: CES 2019 9-12 Jan
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2019, 18:07 »
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/monoprice-continues-showcasing-category-strength-at-ces-2019-300772229.html

Monoprice set to take CES 2019 by storm with this new Dirac capable 9.1.6 processor at usd3,999, will go on sale come 3Q”19....






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Re: CES 2019 9-12 Jan
« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2019, 18:15 »
Hdmi 2.1 is here...
https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1546474656&utm_source=MadMimi&utm_medium=email&utm_content=LG+unveils+2019+OLED+TVs+with+HDMI+2_1+-+LG%27s+first+8K+OLED+is+Z9+-+CES+2019%3A+What+to+expect&utm_campaign=20190102_m149059048_FlatpanelsHD+-+January+2%2C+2018&utm_term=m-lgoled2019_jpg


If there is anyone who will be doing it, and capable within the shortest time frame, it will have to be the Koreans getting the HDMI 2.1 SOC to work flawlessly...

And finally we see LG’s strategy continue on the OLED, priced retained, new features added... lol.. the cycle continues


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Re: CES 2019 9-12 Jan
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2019, 23:43 »
Does this means that you can throw away your Apple TV ::) 8)
https://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-tvs-are-getting-itunes-and-airplay-2

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Re: CES 2019 9-12 Jan
« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2019, 18:44 »
I wonder what we can expect?
HDMI 2.1 TVs?


New amps?
Lots of chatter on 8k TVs, but that's not so practical given the viewing distance, and also the lack of software..
Monoprice has a new processor.. that's interesting.. and it appeared before Emotiva put one out there..
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Re: CES 2019 9-12 Jan
« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2019, 21:09 »
Lots of chatter on 8k TVs, but that's not so practical given the viewing distance, and also the lack of software..
Monoprice has a new processor.. that's interesting.. and it appeared before Emotiva put one out there..
I thought the Emotiva one was already on sale since November ?
But got pretty bad reviews on the AVS Forum

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Re: CES 2019 9-12 Jan
« Reply #13 on: January 08, 2019, 23:00 »
219inch microLED from Samsung sounds promising. Imagine 10000nit brightness at 8K resolution!

We can finally have true large format HDR, bye bye projectors!
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Re: CES 2019 9-12 Jan
« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2019, 23:07 »

If there is anyone who will be doing it, and capable within the shortest time frame, it will have to be the Koreans getting the HDMI 2.1 SOC to work flawlessly...

And finally we see LG’s strategy continue on the OLED, priced retained, new features added... lol.. the cycle continues


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I would hold off on too much hope for HDMI 2.1 for now, last I heard even the test and validation equipment manufacturers are not ready so even if some of these TV manufacturers are claiming HDMI 2.1, they might not be conforming to the full spec and we could expect the usual teething issues like incompatibilities between brands & equipment etc during the early days.

I think best bet is still when the AV receiver folks start offering HDMI 2.1 for a sign that it's reach some form of stability
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Re: CES 2019 9-12 Jan
« Reply #15 on: January 08, 2019, 23:09 »
I thought the Emotiva one was already on sale since November ?
But got pretty bad reviews on the AVS Forum

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I can’t honestly say it’s out there, when it’s more like a gold beta..
I hope this one is better..
Very different from buying a mainstream AVR..
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Re: CES 2019 9-12 Jan
« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2019, 08:16 »
I would hold off on too much hope for HDMI 2.1 for now, last I heard even the test and validation equipment manufacturers are not ready so even if some of these TV manufacturers are claiming HDMI 2.1, they might not be conforming to the full spec and we could expect the usual teething issues like incompatibilities between brands & equipment etc during the early days.

I think best bet is still when the AV receiver folks start offering HDMI 2.1 for a sign that it's reach some form of stability

I concur.... I didn’t think it would be possible to have it in 2Q’19... what we would probably see during demo is the beta version with lotsa hidden weaknesses

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Re: CES 2019 9-12 Jan
« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2019, 08:19 »
219inch microLED from Samsung sounds promising. Imagine 10000nit brightness at 8K resolution!

We can finally have true large format HDR, bye bye projectors!

Again I concur with you, I think beyond HDMI 2.1, we should start seeing larger tv screen sizes, it’s pretty much there for HDMI 2.1, nothing much to be developed, other than screen size... so I suspect, we can get bigger screens at much affordable prices, then we can bye bye PJ... same thinking ...

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Re: CES 2019 9-12 Jan
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Re: CES 2019 9-12 Jan
« Reply #19 on: January 09, 2019, 20:53 »
219inch microLED from Samsung sounds promising. Imagine 10000nit brightness at 8K resolution!

We can finally have true large format HDR, bye bye projectors!

How much are we talking about here? Every piece of new tech comes at premium price. But you are not wrong to say that the future of "bigger" TV is near and Projector's key selling point - i.e. big picture will cease to be attractive since Samsung "The Wall" which featured a 146" screen size in the CES 2019 Samsung Booth looks promising.

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Re: CES 2019 9-12 Jan
« Reply #20 on: January 16, 2019, 08:27 »
As expected, next up will be size !! HDMI 2.1, 8k, Tone Mapping, bigger size, built in calibration... all you will ever need out from this LG OLED ... but price ??

https://www.avsforum.com/lg-88-8k-oled-ces-2019


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Full bandwidth HDMI 2.1, AI, and get this… The ability to create your own tone curve mapping. Indeed, Tyler Pruitt from SpectraCal stated to me that it is possible someday people create their own custom tone mapping curves for every video game they play. And the one thing that he assured me of is that nobody will ever again be able to say that they like this or that brand’s tone mapping better than LG’s. Because with an LG 2019 OLED (presumably including the 88″ 8K model) you’ll be able to dial in exactly the sort of tone mapping that you desire.
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You simply cannot beat the picture quality of an emissive display and the infinite blacks that they achieve, when watching with the lights out. And while they don’t approach the multi-thousand peak nit specs of LCDs, compared to projection, the highlights found in OLED are true HDR.

Play the source of Tekno3d in HDR10+, this will be the AV Nirvana of the century

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Re: CES 2019 9-12 Jan
« Reply #21 on: January 23, 2019, 13:50 »
Have been catching up on the CES 2019 videos. That Samung 75inch MicroLED looks good and since it's 4K, it'll be perfect for combining 4 of these for a true 150inch diagonal 8K MicroLED display, imagine that with rec2020 colour, even if it's just 4000nits brightness, that'll be one awesome display!

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Re: CES 2019 9-12 Jan
« Reply #22 on: January 23, 2019, 13:59 »
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