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The usual light grey tone & light silver is still available but recent craze are out .... Black screen or Dark Grey Screen

In the recent years there is a few type of material made by manufacturer from USA ,Europe , Korea and Taiwan

It has a lot of great application from Ultra short Throw Projector ( UST ) couple with the Lenticular surface grey screen ( ALR )

There is a hi resolution "Deep Dark Grey" for lens type like Short throw ,  Mid Throw and Long Throw lens type .

By Changing the screen you will gain better contrast and black levels .

I will try to send the picture later :
« Last Edit: November 19, 2018, 16:58 by alf »
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First two are with lights on and the setting is different .
The second two is full lights off yet the white scene are still clear and have depth .
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Amazing!

What’s the damage?
Please post instead of sending a pm, so more can learn.

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Alf what do they look like without an image projected on them?
I have a pile of stuff that pushes out squiggly waveforms from smaller squiggly waveforms that sometimes come from 1's and 0's.
It's wonderful to behold as long as you don't let the magic smoke out.

Life is short! Enjoy the music while it plays, when it stops, there might be a chair for you...or  maybe not.

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Looks nice..!    What are the drawbacks?
Coincidence also have met all the members in this thread; Alf, petetherock, Jag, wizardofoz   ;D

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is the fabric (perforated) available for DIY purchase?
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Let me share on what is the projector I am using for the testing ,it is JVC 1080 p 1300 ansi lumen contrast ratio is 50,000:1(Older model ). It is place on TOP of a shelf with lens shift down ( it is not inverted ) In recent years different brand Home Theatre is at 1800 to 2200 ansi lumen which will work even better with these new screen material .

These material is Deep Dark Grey in tone , it is a diffusion type ( projector don’t need to invert to optimize gain ) viewing cone is 135 degree . There is no hot spotting effects  / I do have another material which does  ( commercial usage ) . The surface is hi resolution for UHD or 4K content . This Ambient Light rejection material is ideal for standard mid throw lens ( most good or well made projector )
Few velvet colour option for frames Bright Orange ,Electric Blues , Sandy Brown , Light Brown , Dark Brown & Black . ( I still like Black velvet )

The application and projection effects is fanstastic , you can use Movies Pitch Black or with some ambient lights , Karaoke mode setting , Football setting and KIDs and Wify TV ,Games and Cartoon setting . Another new ways of how to decor your Home Theatre is to put LED strips and with colour changeable setting around the edge .

For maintaintainece you can use 3M cloth and water to clean , best part your will not see any spots or yellowish stains on these material .

For installation it does not require special handling it is a flexible material like the conventional Poly vinyl base that can be stretch .

More critical part is the value price for 100” 16 :9 format starts from $ 1680 .

Hope I manage to answer all you bros question .
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No AT options I suppose?

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Hi,

 Will it cost color shift or gamma shift as the base material color is dark gray?

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Just up loaded another image source too hi- light 3 things, which may give you guys some visual performance on the screen.
The source is from Dolby Atmos Blu-Ray and send on the same projector .

A) The front view is to show there is no "Hot Spot " base on a bright scene with more white back ground image .

B) From the side view is to show case the wide viewing angle with no drastic drop.

c) Look at the measuring instrument show the "Lux meter 94” generally most environment will range from 40 to 80 Lux . ( Curtain covering windows indoor environment )

Answer : Wilber & Ralfale this material does not come is perforation or AT type technically not easy to make .
              I am only able to replace those new Model fixed screen from Cyrus Cine Projection screen .
             
             Mutant & Spyderman88 this is for those wants to have a change in their viewing style or those who are looking at more deeper blacks without changing projector ( Dark room application)

This new products from Cyrus Screen give you more options in your Home Theatre application, there will be some trade off as it is not for the "Purist HT Fan" which will prefer ST 1.3 or Native white material. If you try to recall from this forum there is one topic about some different and big brands  " Ambient Light Rejection Screen " . I guess you have to view it for yourself and see if you like it or not .

Hope I am able answer most of you bros out there . 
« Last Edit: November 20, 2018, 21:11 by alf »
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Alf can you show a pic without the image displayed...ie what it looks like just as a drop on the wall colour and shade wise
I have a pile of stuff that pushes out squiggly waveforms from smaller squiggly waveforms that sometimes come from 1's and 0's.
It's wonderful to behold as long as you don't let the magic smoke out.

Life is short! Enjoy the music while it plays, when it stops, there might be a chair for you...or  maybe not.

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Looks impressive and very functional. Even if not "purist" but looks like the trade off is worth it.

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Alf can you show a pic without the image displayed...ie what it looks like just as a drop on the wall colour and shade wise

Yah alf possible to show how it look like on wall without any image displayed?
and may i know the biggest 16:9 fix screen it can go up to?
Thank you v much.

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Yah alf possible to show how it look like on wall without any image displayed?
and may i know the biggest 16:9 fix screen it can go up to?
Thank you v much.

Cheers.


Sorry for the late replay , in the fixed screen format it can go up to 150" diagonal .
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Hi Wiz , sorry for the late reply have to attend to projects .
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thanks Alf...Im sure its of interest to more than just me
I have a pile of stuff that pushes out squiggly waveforms from smaller squiggly waveforms that sometimes come from 1's and 0's.
It's wonderful to behold as long as you don't let the magic smoke out.

Life is short! Enjoy the music while it plays, when it stops, there might be a chair for you...or  maybe not.

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Alf, any way to upgrade my current 100" Cyrus gray screen to this?

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Sorry for the late replay , in the fixed screen format it can go up to 150" diagonal .

Any pricing available for various sizes? Both fixed and motorised?

Edit: need pricing for 92" motorised. Cheers.  ;)
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Any pricing available for various sizes? Both fixed and motorised?
interested to know the price too, 135" fixed screen,

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Hi Kaydee6, sigurros & Keai I have send you guys a PM on New Dark Grey screen application.
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Hi,

Will this be available with motorised masking option ? 16:9 to 2.35:1 ? And if have, what would be the price for 100" diagonal ? Thanks.

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hi lampsy 86,

Reply via PM . Need more detail on the Home Theatre room info .
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hi lampsy 86,

Reply via PM . Need more detail on the Home Theatre room info .
Tks. Will PM response.

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