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Offline WuffRuff

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I saw a youtube video on home automation.
The guy gave a single command like "Play movie on projector" and a series of actions were performed:
- Projector turned on
- Projector screen comes down
- Lights off
- Curtains drawn

How can I get a set up like this?
What kind of home automation is recommended (in general for the house as well)?
How can I set up all the other stuff to be smart?
How to make cove lights smart too?
How to make the curtains smart too?
Any vendor for electric curtains to recommend?
Sorry for long list of qns.


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Re: Home Automation single command to play movie on PJ, etc
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2018, 10:45 »
You need a Smart Home Controller - which usually has an Alexa or Google Home speaker extension to allow it to work with Voice Commands.

The Smart Home controller will need to be wired to your existing equipment (either with RJ45 or serial relay cables). Wireless may work but unreliable.

Eventually the Smart Home Controller functionality may be included in a Google device or Alexa or Apple but for now you will need a Smart Home control box - along with a programmer to make it all work.

Look for Savant, RTI, Control4
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Re: Home Automation single command to play movie on PJ, etc
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2018, 21:33 »
the lower cost way...

1. alexa echo for voice command to smartthings
2. smartthings hub to control harmony hub and philips hue
3. harmony hub to fire IR commands to everything else
4. curtains controlled by smarrthings with xiaomi curtain controller
5. philips hue to control your lights

this assumes you are technically savvy and willing to cut and paste code to smartthings.

the alternative is to pay a few thousand to go the crestron/extron/control4 way.

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Re: Home Automation single command to play movie on PJ, etc
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2018, 08:40 »
the lower cost way...

1. alexa echo for voice command to smartthings
2. smartthings hub to control harmony hub and philips hue
3. harmony hub to fire IR commands to everything else
4. curtains controlled by smarrthings with xiaomi curtain controller
5. philips hue to control your lights

this assumes you are technically savvy and willing to cut and paste code to smartthings.

the alternative is to pay a few thousand to go the crestron/extron/control4 way.

Thanks for sharing.
Low cost is good. I don't want to pay few thousand for this.
Ok so far I understand your explanation.
Then what about the electric projector screen and projector?
Connect to what?
And I don't quite get why smartthings hub must connect to harmony hub to control other things.
Smart things hub cannot control the things directly?

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Re: Home Automation single command to play movie on PJ, etc
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2018, 09:35 »
Your curtains and screen got what input?

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Re: Home Automation single command to play movie on PJ, etc
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2018, 09:47 »
Even cheaper way if you only want to achieve the above

Echo to voice control
Broadlimk rm pro to fire IR and even RF signals to turn on and off devices in configured sequence.

Total cost echo ($50) + rm pro ($40)
You can find all items from Carousell.

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Re: Home Automation single command to play movie on PJ, etc
« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2018, 10:01 »
The problem is that most of these devices are like designed for one task or specific to some components.

A proper home automation system is designed to link and communicate with a lot more including stuff that may not be important to some people here - like security systems, cameras, pool heaters, air conditioning, garage door openers, intercoms. Etc
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Re: Home Automation single command to play movie on PJ, etc
« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2018, 15:37 »
Here's how to do it:

1) Get a motorized curtain track designed for external control systems. Somfy has a few good ones. Somfy Glydea is a good recommendation for its silence.
2) Get a home automation system with curtain/roller-shutter module. I recommend Z-wave bases systems for its excellent price vs performance ratio. A good one is Fibaro Home Center Lite as it has native support for Amazon echo.
3)  Get Harmony hub as the unified remote control to your Home Theater system.
4) Get amazon Echo for voice control capability (optional)
5) Talk to L3homeation on how you can get them to install and commission this for you.

The electrical wiring part is best done by someone who is familiar with electrical work. After that, then comes the software integration part. This is best executed by you learning how to program them (its not that difficult).

There is really no real difficulty once you have been exposed to a real life DIY working system.

My system turns on by :

1) voice (courtesy by Amazon Echo) or by remote (Harmony Home) . This 2 items will cost about $400-500.
2) turns on the PJ/AVR/Dirac (Z-wave controlled power plug),  ($90 per power plug)
3) turns off (or dim) the downlights & cove lights (Z-wave controlled relays), ($90 per relay)
4) turns on aircon (z-wave A/C controller),  ($150 for the air con controller)
5) closes curtains (z-wave curtain module) ($1k+ depending on brand)

All this is controlled by the Z-wave HA controller that has powerful interfaces to control almost everything; and all from 1 neat hardware/software graphical user interface.

I have evaluated many potential HA systems, but this recommendation is for those who want things to JUST SIMPLY WORK reliably after setup.
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Re: Home Automation single command to play movie on PJ, etc
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2018, 09:20 »
Here's how to do it:

1) Get a motorized curtain track designed for external control systems. Somfy has a few good ones. Somfy Glydea is a good recommendation for its silence.
2) Get a home automation system with curtain/roller-shutter module. I recommend Z-wave bases systems for its excellent price vs performance ratio. A good one is Fibaro Home Center Lite as it has native support for Amazon echo.
3)  Get Harmony hub as the unified remote control to your Home Theater system.
4) Get amazon Echo for voice control capability (optional)
5) Talk to L3homeation on how you can get them to install and commission this for you.

The electrical wiring part is best done by someone who is familiar with electrical work. After that, then comes the software integration part. This is best executed by you learning how to program them (its not that difficult).

There is really no real difficulty once you have been exposed to a real life DIY working system.

My system turns on by :

1) voice (courtesy by Amazon Echo) or by remote (Harmony Home) . This 2 items will cost about $400-500.
2) turns on the PJ/AVR/Dirac (Z-wave controlled power plug),  ($90 per power plug)
3) turns off (or dim) the downlights & cove lights (Z-wave controlled relays), ($90 per relay)
4) turns on aircon (z-wave A/C controller),  ($150 for the air con controller)
5) closes curtains (z-wave curtain module) ($1k+ depending on brand)

All this is controlled by the Z-wave HA controller that has powerful interfaces to control almost everything; and all from 1 neat hardware/software graphical user interface.

I have evaluated many potential HA systems, but this recommendation is for those who want things to JUST SIMPLY WORK reliably after setup.

OK sounds good.
From the looks of it, the curtain module is the most expensive one.
Any other alternative to this $1k+ module?

Can I add this Z-wave system later on.
Basically its just connecting the parts to the power plug or modules is it?
How do I link up the controller? Is it plugged to modem?
For the air-con, will it work for split systems air-con? How to connect to such?


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Re: Home Automation single command to play movie on PJ, etc
« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2018, 14:26 »
Almost everything can be added on later except for the motorized curtain rails. There are cheaper motorized curtain rails, but you need to look around on China websites for them. I recommended Glydea because you can still pull the curtain shut by hand if need to.

Z-wave automation can be added on whenever you like. YouTube for Fibaro for videos that on ideas and installation.

The system is wireless and you connect to your smartphone by WiFi.

I use Mitsubishi Starmex, so the z-wave system controls your aircon by IR. Not only that, the harmony remote control also can do the same thing.
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Re: Home Automation single command to play movie on PJ, etc
« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2018, 15:22 »
For mine, I am going via
Alexa -> harmony hub -> Any IR controlled device.
Alexa -> IFTTT -> Any web integration device.
My new exploration:
Apple Siri -> Aqara hub -> Any aqara/xiaomi integrate device or ZigBee device.
Apple Siri -> Any Homekit enable device.

Eventually need to find a way for Alexa and Siri to talk to each other.
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Re: Home Automation single command to play movie on PJ, etc
« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2018, 18:39 »
Quek’s, how do you do lights and curtain control?

Alexa and Siri will never talk to each other officially with out a good hack.
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Re: Home Automation single command to play movie on PJ, etc
« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2018, 18:41 »
Anyone else with home theater automation to share?
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Re: Home Automation single command to play movie on PJ, etc
« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2018, 22:01 »
My friend using aqara Curtain control.

Siri -> aqara hub -> curtain control
Siri -> aqara hub -> light switch (1 gang and 2 gang only)

By right aqara can integrate with alexa also. I haven’t test it out yet.
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Re: Home Automation single command to play movie on PJ, etc
« Reply #14 on: October 20, 2018, 15:02 »
Update: Siri -> aqara hub -> curtain and light switch. All working.
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