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Offline jaffrie

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« Reply #30 on: May 02, 2019, 19:23 »
Aside from the re issues, I think the last batch of properly recorded Lp's were around 80's using analog tape for recording sessions.

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« Reply #31 on: May 02, 2019, 20:27 »
Some CDs can sound horrible at first - literally inducing physical pain in the ear - but after some rounds of spinning, become very good.


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« Reply #32 on: May 03, 2019, 00:18 »
Digital on Ray Brown Trio- no fight with Vinyl- Did an A/B on both digital vs LP. I have 2 different version of CD vs Bam Bam Bam LP-

Digital- dynamic and soundstage is restricted- not much realism , no intimacy or close proximity with the Live Band- as it is a live recording.

LP- much wider sound stage, airy, much better clarity and separation- piano chord is much sharper and crisp with decay in the high octave. Intimacy is much closer. Much more dynamic- better bass control. Digital lacking in bass- sound muted . I bet u have not tried the LP version of Ray Brown Trio- this is a very good recording. Must have item-if you are a serious Jazz lovers.

For All Jazz lovers- Analogy is the way to go much better  and enjoyable than Digital. No question about it- Not convinced- find a venue n do the comparison- any show room of your choice- dont need any special tuning just pure listening is enough.  I can bring the LP for u.

However not saying Digital is no good- i am just refering to this particular era of Bebop and Hardbop genre of Jazz- Maybe pre 90 era- mostly use Master tape. Digital usually compress with loudness war. I have spend tons of money on CDs over the years. It is never to my satisfaction- Digital is easy to maintain, portable and cheaper too- it can be rip and play anywhere.

Maybe now technology improved with the times- who knows with more Hirez file may beat LP one day. When?

As I said.. have both... Vinyl has many variables.. that you have to understand control and optimise.. gain matching, VTF, antiskate.. even warp LP and off centre LP can give you problems. Digital is much more predictable and consistent.. but IMHO not so magical.. so have both and maximise it...

This one- not a big issue now- Now manufacturers mostly compliant with cartridge and tonearm- plug and play good enough to hear the different unless u have super high end system. I use common audio gear affordable and within reach by most XP bro standard. Even MM cartidge also enjoyable- if one can afford better thing in life- why not- get MC. In fact MM is good for rock music.Really miss it when change over to MC. With MC- i can control with different SUT set up.

I have totally switched over to Jazz LP including Vocal (seldom listen- only chinese track)- not more CD unless it is existing Japanses SACD or red book that i owned- The Japanese made better CD compare to most- referring t Jazz. As for some Chinese track still prefer first release red book- than  those SACD (Venus label exception)- just made it louder. ( no offense to collectors) Some hit and miss SACD- some good and some bad- Not generalizing- but somehow this is my experience.

Having said- please do not ditch digital- i use it everyday- streamer- when in office, travelling & home too. It is is so good and convenient- Many good tracks for all bro to enjoy.


See very shiok track for all to enjoy

https://open.spotify.com/track/0r7mAaKDnJawOtfiFEifpZ?si=Nj1u9-3hTieUy0QZ7BkHFQ

https://open.spotify.com/track/1FKvAEwLUqZRbuvTPbfGYA?si=o_LhviOqRleY1mTRBQdPUA

https://open.spotify.com/track/0RRT94g1fduf5thBol6fYW?si=y6PCoV0wQvWKa92ZpPp2aA

https://open.spotify.com/track/3ayrHkyorPEpeOBvZ76SwG?si=BIc4aZR1S2WNF-cZQdeHEw




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Re: Recommend me a turntable and tonearm setup person.
« Reply #33 on: May 03, 2019, 08:38 »
i am also looking for someone. please recommend to me too.

Me too looking for someone who can help on my turntable issue.
It has jumping issue.
It is a MT-5 Mcintosh turntable. Appreciated much.

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« Reply #34 on: May 03, 2019, 08:40 »
Pm me and I send you an expert on TT setup. Most bros here consult him.

Me too looking for someone who can help on my turntable issue.
It has jumping issue.
It is a MT-5 Mcintosh turntable. Appreciated much.

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Re: Recommend me a turntable and tonearm setup person.
« Reply #35 on: May 03, 2019, 11:29 »
Aside from the re issues, I think the last batch of properly recorded Lp's were around 80's using analog tape for recording sessions.

Not entirely true. There are exceptions where digital recordings sound very good. At least my ears cannot tell them apart from analog recording. Think Dire Straits (Brothers in Arms onwards), Ry Cooder, Donald Fagan (Nightfly) and some (not all) from Telarc.

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« Reply #36 on: May 03, 2019, 13:37 »
That's true Starfish but in general I think is correct. When Decca went digital you could tell immediately some magic was lost.
Anyway Im tempted to try vinyl but having to start an LP collection is so so costly now.
What would you guys recommend for a ready to play TT if my budget is only 5K ?


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« Reply #37 on: May 03, 2019, 14:06 »
Mofi (Mobile Fidelity) top turntable and phonostage. All for less than $4.5k. Easy to sell off if you change your mind.

That's true Starfish but in general I think is correct. When Decca went digital you could tell immediately some magic was lost.
Anyway Im tempted to try vinyl but having to start an LP collection is so so costly now.
What would you guys recommend for a ready to play TT if my budget is only 5K ?


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Re: Recommend me a turntable and tonearm setup person.
« Reply #38 on: May 03, 2019, 14:13 »
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/0aRt4d7ImY8&fs=1" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/0aRt4d7ImY8&fs=1</a>

Some interesting view from Zouk DJ about Digital vs Vinyl in Club DJ.

If you are into Good Sound quality- Vinyl sound "better"- as explained by the DJ themselves. This will also depend on your set up too.

PS move on from MM to MC cartridge- sound goods to me.

you purposely bring this thread up for me is it ?::)

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« Reply #39 on: May 03, 2019, 16:34 »
What would you guys recommend for a ready to play TT if my budget is only 5K ?

Second Mo-Fi. Alternatives are Rega RP6, EAT and Origin Live. All have different presentations in sound and looks. So choose the one that suits you best. Don't forget to put aside some money for a phono stage. 

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« Reply #40 on: May 03, 2019, 17:16 »
$4.5k includes the most expensive Mofi phonostage.

Second Mo-Fi. Alternatives are Rega RP6, EAT and Origin Live. All have different presentations in sound and looks. So choose the one that suits you best. Don't forget to put aside some money for a phono stage. 

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« Reply #41 on: May 03, 2019, 20:48 »
Hi Guys,
Thanks for the suggestion. Re MoFi are you speaking of the Ultra Deck & which phono stage & cartridge does it come with ?

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« Reply #42 on: May 04, 2019, 00:55 »
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/EdRjbd4r9jg&fs=1" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/EdRjbd4r9jg&fs=1</a>

Watch our Singapore "Michael Fremer" Bro Ian which give u some insight what to expect and take the guess work out- End of the day it is your ear that will decide which turntable u like.

Stick to the budget that you have allocated. U  need to get other accessories too. Slowly and surely u will get to enjoy the "real stuff" that is missing out. Not sure feel free to ask around many XP fellows here- they are experienced and will share their knowledge with you.

Below is the website for Mofi-

http://www.retrophonic.sg/category/record-players-turntables/
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Re: Recommend me a turntable and tonearm setup person.
« Reply #43 on: May 04, 2019, 01:09 »
you purposely bring this thread up for me is it ?::)

Sharing knowledge is important so  All XP fellows benefit from people who spin LP everyday for living- Surely they are the man who keep clubbers happy. They are like the professional F1 driver- good to pick up some cue from them.

Go ahead and purchase your ideal Vinyl- Your current DAC is one of the  top league. My impression is below

http://www.xtremeplace.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=124223.480

Whoever get it from you -surely will know what they are getting it for. Don't wait- don't come everyday. Like me see it just grab if you can afford it- otherwise be contended with what is given now.

http://www.xtremeplace.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=285130.msg1307118#msg1307118

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« Reply #44 on: May 04, 2019, 10:38 »
Mo-Fi also available from New Disc Village (Ernest) at Adelphi L3. Advantage of going to Adelphi to listen is that in the same building you can audition the Rega RP6 and Avid. On the same floor as New Disc Village you can audition EAT, Origin Live and Mitchell Gyro. Happy hunting.