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Re: Calling Bass Shakers........
« Reply #45 on: March 03, 2018, 13:14 »
The main reason you won’t want to calibrate your shakers with audyssey is because your shakers are not subject to room mode interaction , unlike your subwoofer. So if you have a resonant at 30hz, audyssey will attempt to cut this frequency, to flatten it. If you have a weak bass at 20hz, some boosting will be done.

The end result is your shakers are not getting a lfe  signal as how the original content creators intended. Your shakers now have lowered gains at 30hz and a boost at 20hz because of the audyssey eq, the end result will be very heavy shaking at 20hz and “not enough “shaking” at 30hz, the blending with the subs will feel weird.

Remember, you want the shakers to supplement the subs, not dominate it.

You can always use a microphone stand to run audyssey, if that helps

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Re: Calling Bass Shakers........
« Reply #46 on: March 03, 2018, 16:55 »
My method has no impact to the accuracy of result becoz the calibration mic has no direct/indirect contact to them sofa itself.

This seems to me like a classic case of someone trying to be a smart aleck and argue for the sake arguing. If that is the case, why didn't you state so in your post? Everyone here is trying to offer our help to comfortablynumb by suggesting the most prudent way of doing it when most of the members here will either utilize a tripod or the cardboard tripod (wonder if still comes with the package) to use for the calibration and not otherwise...
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Re: Calling Bass Shakers........
« Reply #47 on: March 03, 2018, 18:01 »
This seems to me like a classic case of someone trying to be a smart aleck and argue for the sake arguing. If that is the case, why didn't you state so in your post? Everyone here is trying to offer our help to comfortablynumb by suggesting the most prudent way of doing it when most of the members here will either utilize a tripod or the cardboard tripod (wonder if still comes with the package) to use for the calibration and not otherwise...
I dun see any reason i must stated clearly what i did and what did wrong in the previous post. If police want me to shut up i just end my discussion in this thread. I just hope not been forced to offer “smart” opinion in order to TEACH others. I just noobie and newbie always.
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Re: Calling Bass Shakers........
« Reply #48 on: March 04, 2018, 13:58 »
Anyway , I m doing my Cali without powering On the Bass shaker dedicated amp
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Re: Calling Bass Shakers........
« Reply #49 on: March 04, 2018, 14:18 »
have fun!

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Re: Calling Bass Shakers........
« Reply #50 on: March 04, 2018, 15:57 »
Anyway , I m doing my Cali without powering On the Bass shaker dedicated amp

Yep...have fun.

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Re: Calling Bass Shakers........
« Reply #51 on: March 06, 2018, 14:54 »
anyone knows whats the delivery lead time from Parts Express to SG?
Ordered on Feb 26 and the parcel got delivered to UPS Facility center in the US on Feb 28.
Since then, no movement at all. The Airway bill tracking no. shows its "in transit" since Feb 28
Called UPS and they said they will check cos its under UPS i-parcel and they do not have the information in their I-parcel system.

Have similar experience with UPS i-Parcel and its usually slow but not this slow.
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Re: Calling Bass Shakers........
« Reply #52 on: March 10, 2018, 23:19 »
cant rem... but it was not very long...
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« Reply #53 on: March 11, 2018, 03:04 »
Damn....just received the ADX bs but not the amp
PE dispatched my orders in 2 parcels and successfully delivered to UPs
But from US to sg, it was processed as 1 airwaybill
I thought they repack and combined the parcels into 1 but .....

Now have to follow up with PE and UPS to trace the other parcel

Damn suay

3/12 update: UPS confirmed that they will be delivering the 2nd parcel on 3/13
hope no cockups
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Re: Calling Bass Shakers........
« Reply #54 on: March 13, 2018, 15:40 »
Finally set up the BS and the feeling is super shiok
On the Dayton Audio SA230 amp, my settings are:
Phase = 0
Freq = 100hz
Gain = 7

At Gain = 5, the vibration is there but subtle. Had to up the Gain to 7 to firm up my butt muscles

The Bass Boost dials behind the amp is untouched (Default at 6dB and 40hz). Anyone played with these settings?
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Re: Calling Bass Shakers........
« Reply #55 on: March 13, 2018, 19:50 »
Oooo... 100hz is very high. My own impressions are that if I set it above 50hz, the shake becomes too unnatural to me.

U might want to set the lowpass on the sa230 at 40-60hz to see if it feels more natural. And let your sub handle the rest.

My definition of natural is to simulate the type, intensity of the shake/ tactile feeling that a sub would give assuming no BS. Esp the low rumble type of tactile.

But everyone's liking for bass is different. So if 100hz still feel better for u, it's good.

Bass boost frequency - u might want to set as low as possible. So that the shakes at lower freq is higher such that it simulates the subsonic strong bass shake that a sub would give. I set mine at 20hz, gain at 12 o'clock I think

Let us know your comparisons / findings! =)
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Re: Calling Bass Shakers........
« Reply #56 on: March 13, 2018, 20:06 »
Finally set up the BS and the feeling is super shiok
On the Dayton Audio SA230 amp, my settings are:
Phase = 0
Freq = 100hz
Gain = 7

At Gain = 5, the vibration is there but subtle. Had to up the Gain to 7 to firm up my butt muscles

The Bass Boost dials behind the amp is untouched (Default at 6dB and 40hz). Anyone played with these settings?

I think 100Hz is fine

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Re: Calling Bass Shakers........
« Reply #57 on: March 13, 2018, 23:24 »
Oooo... 100hz is very high. My own impressions are that if I set it above 50hz, the shake becomes too unnatural to me.

U might want to set the lowpass on the sa230 at 40-60hz to see if it feels more natural. And let your sub handle the rest.

My definition of natural is to simulate the type, intensity of the shake/ tactile feeling that a sub would give assuming no BS. Esp the low rumble type of tactile.

But everyone's liking for bass is different. So if 100hz still feel better for u, it's good.

Bass boost frequency - u might want to set as low as possible. So that the shakes at lower freq is higher such that it simulates the subsonic strong bass shake that a sub would give. I set mine at 20hz, gain at 12 o'clock I think

Let us know your comparisons / findings! =)

The amp manual stated that general freq setting is between 80-100hz
Will play with lower settings tmrw
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Re: Calling Bass Shakers........
« Reply #58 on: March 13, 2018, 23:29 »
I think 100Hz is fine
I actually preferred 100hz but yet to try out lower settings below 80hz
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Re: Calling Bass Shakers........
« Reply #59 on: March 14, 2018, 21:16 »
The amp manual stated that general freq setting is between 80-100hz
Will play with lower settings tmrw

Dont think it's for shakers

That lpf freq recommendation is for subwoofers if I'm not wrong.