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Recommendation for pro speakers for LCR
« on: July 02, 2017, 23:47 »
After hearing from some bros here, I am keen to switch to pro audio speakers for my LCR speakers to improve the overall dialogue and experience. Seems like those with horn design are good.

Budget $2.2k for LCR.

Any brands and models to recommend? =)





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Re: Recommendation for pro speakers for LCR
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2017, 00:19 »
Hsu research HB-1 mk2 or PSA MT110 as a start for the low end of the budget. Read the reviews, they are quite amazing for HT, and have incredible soundstage and imaging in stereo. The only downside maybe the highs may not have that 'air' associated with hifi dome tweeters.

There's some info in this thread. Sorry, here's the link..

http://www.xtremeplace.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=248254.0


Going a bit higher, there are JTR Noesis range, but already out of budget.

Diysoundgroup has a lot of options for all output levels and price range.

In fact, you can even stay with a highly regarded hifi dome tweeter design, in the marksman. It uses the dayton rs28 tweeter. The benefit is the controlled directivity of the seos waveguide on the tweeter.

www.diysoundgroup.com/speaker-kits/marksman-kit.html

Of course, not to forget big boys JBL and QSC , but probably the cinema range speakers are too big and too ugly for home.

JBL has powered active series, LSR308 and LSR305 that would be very very good too. Well within your budget.  Actually, for easy of application, LSR308 or 305 is probably your best choice. Can use a single 305 for center.


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« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2017, 10:44 »
I second diysoundgroup kits if you are adventurous enough. Great value for money. If you are considering MTM designs, make sure the Center speaker can be placed vertically to avoid lobing/dispersion issues widely discussed in AVS.


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Re: Recommendation for pro speakers for LCR
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2017, 12:31 »
Bro, honestly given the Budget I would go with treating the room and first reflection points, since u can't move MLP.  The problem doesn't lie with with the equipment. The room is dominating. There r nice acoustic paintings that u can use too,waf friendly. Solve the reverb issues too with helmhotz.

I believe  that will bring up the entire system to the next level.

Alternatively if u have a spare room, move entire system to room. I believe that would be good option as well.

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Re: Recommendation for pro speakers for LCR
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2017, 13:39 »
Hsu research HB-1 mk2 or PSA MT110 as a start for the low end of the budget. Read the reviews, they are quite amazing for HT, and have incredible soundstage and imaging in stereo. The only downside maybe the highs may not have that 'air' associated with hifi dome tweeters.

Thanks bro wech. Just read them. Yea,  the reviews are amazing! I have used hsu products and I have trust in them. So tempted that I almost ordered online. *control!* haha

And I believe this could give the expansive dialogue and stage I am searching for. And best, for a fraction of the cost of my b&w.

Do we rem anyone in XP who used these models b4?

And they have a new cc8 too. But not many reviews online for it yet
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« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2017, 13:42 »
I second diysoundgroup kits if you are adventurous enough. Great value for money. If you are considering MTM designs, make sure the Center speaker can be placed vertically to avoid lobing/dispersion issues widely discussed in AVS.

Diysoundgroup has a lot of options for all output levels and price range.

In fact, you can even stay with a highly regarded hifi dome tweeter design, in the marksman. It uses the dayton rs28 tweeter. The benefit is the controlled directivity of the seos waveguide on the tweeter.

www.diysoundgroup.com/speaker-kits/marksman-kit.html

Like. =)

I am open to that option. But it will have to be waf friendly aesthetically. Any to recommend that looks OK or above average? =)
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Re: Recommendation for pro speakers for LCR
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2017, 14:04 »
Like. =)

I am open to that option. But it will have to be waf friendly aesthetically. Any to recommend that looks OK or above average? =)
Aesthetics is somewhat subjective.

Here's what the Marksman could look like.



And the JBL LSRs.


Some slightly more refined looking ones.


Lals from Taiwan makes some beautiful speakers. Not sure if available in Singapore. Also don't know how they sound, but I can't tell from your comments so far, if looks or sound is the more important factor



www.lals-audio.com.tw/product/product.asp?smenutitle=Neo-Classical+8&book_id=112&hot=&Category1_ID=460&Category2_ID=469&anclasspro=&nclasspro=A035&MenuTitle=Neo-Classical+Series&pagetitle=Neo-Classical+8

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Re: Recommendation for pro speakers for LCR
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2017, 15:21 »
I used to own JBL Studio 5 floorstanders and they were very dynamic and great for movies. I use it mainly for movies so that was my priority for choosing it. Price should be around your budget too.  I changed them to KK Q125 which unfortunately are no longer available.

http://www.jblsynthesis.com/productdetail/studio_580.html

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« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2017, 16:13 »
Some slightly more refined looking ones.



thanks bro. This is nice :) what brand/ model is this

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« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2017, 16:56 »
Found them here, haha.

 horns.pl/en/speaker-sets/fp10/

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« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2017, 17:21 »
Thanks bro Wech.

After reading the HSU speakers review, i am.... deeply poisoned. hahaha.... price also affordable, maybe i should buy one to try.

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Re: Recommendation for pro speakers for LCR
« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2017, 20:42 »
Thanks bro Wech.

After reading the HSU speakers review, i am.... deeply poisoned. hahaha.... price also affordable, maybe i should buy one to try.

Bro, when it comes to speakers, try to ask the dealer whether is it possible to do a home trial using their demo units - make a deposit of some sort to assure them of your interest. Sound is very subjective, you can't come to a conclusion whether it fits your listening environment. Take note, I am talking about spending some serious $$$ (investment) in the region of thousands of dollars on the LCR...of course it may not be feasible for say a $200 - $400 range of speakers as dealer likely not gonna entertain it.

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« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2017, 21:13 »
Bro, when it comes to speakers, try to ask the dealer whether is it possible to do a home trial using their demo units - make a deposit of some sort to assure them of your interest. Sound is very subjective, you can't come to a conclusion whether it fits your listening environment. Take note, I am talking about spending some serious $$$ (investment) in the region of thousands of dollars on the LCR...of course it may not be feasible for say a $200 - $400 range of speakers as dealer likely not gonna entertain it.

Thanks desray. Yep I will.

Too bad hsu & psa doesn't have local agent. Sigh.

Will spend some time doing research on this. Quite a few candidates including kef too =) spoilt for choices keke.
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« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2017, 23:09 »
Bro try mk sound la :) those with 3 tweeter ones hahas sound quite good tho
Mp300 or mp150 couldnt go wrong i think and the price is good according to another bro that change all his spk to it
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« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2017, 23:17 »
Bro try mk sound la :) those with 3 tweeter ones hahas sound quite good tho
Mp300 or mp150 couldnt go wrong i think and the price is good according to another bro that change all his spk to it

saw thru liao the catalogue. The aesthetics confirm buay pass my MHA 

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Re: Recommendation for pro speakers for LCR
« Reply #15 on: July 04, 2017, 23:53 »
Aiyo , but i doubt any pro spk will pass la :/ unless you said those studio monitors . If you said true pro grade or pro cinema grade is even worst . Wakakaa

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« Reply #16 on: July 05, 2017, 00:05 »
Aiyo , but i doubt any pro spk will pass la :/ unless you said those studio monitors . If you said true pro grade or pro cinema grade is even worst . Wakakaa

have la... The psa and hsu ones passed ;) but if possible, looking for the horn type...

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« Reply #17 on: July 05, 2017, 01:42 »
have la... The psa and hsu ones passed ;) but if possible, looking for the horn type...
The PSA MT110 is a horn type speaker right?

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« Reply #18 on: July 05, 2017, 08:29 »
The PSA MT110 is a horn type speaker right?

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Yep! But higher price point than the Hsu ccb8

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« Reply #19 on: July 05, 2017, 08:33 »
interesting on this topic , follow

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« Reply #20 on: July 05, 2017, 08:50 »
Isn't the Hsu a coaxial design? Aren't you looking at CD/horns?

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« Reply #21 on: July 05, 2017, 09:02 »
Isn't the Hsu a coaxial design? Aren't you looking at CD/horns?

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the ccb8 is coaxial I think. Prefer to explore horns if possible. I believe it will give a different HT dimension, esp dialogue.

Frankly, I am very new to pro speakers. So any suggestions on other brands/ models are welcome!


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« Reply #22 on: July 05, 2017, 10:49 »
Honestly, coaxials are waveguides too, just look at the kef LS50 polars or off axis response.  You can't get that kind of even smooth dispersion without a waveguide. I have not seen any measurements of the CCB 8 from Hsu. But the materials all point to the fact that this is a full blown constant directivity design, ie horn /waveguide. Being a Coaxial, and constant directivity to boot , it's superior to a regular 2 way TM horn design.

Don Keele helped design the pole piece and woofer cone profile to act as a constant directivity waveguide. Keele is most well known for his work in CBT, which are a type of constant directivity line arrays. Definitely knows his stuff. I think this is the one for you. Hehe. Looks great with grills on and off too.

BUT, you know what is the single biggest reason to get them? For the bragging rights. You can say, I'm going to get these CCB speakers. Or I just got these CCB speakers.

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« Reply #23 on: July 05, 2017, 11:40 »
Yes the ccb8 looks very intriguing. Still waiting for AVS jim wilson review.

 It's in my shortlist. Maybe... I can organise a group buy once I confirm keke
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« Reply #24 on: July 05, 2017, 12:10 »
Yes the ccb8 looks very intriguing. Still waiting for jims review.

 It's in my shortlist. Maybe... I can organise a group buy once I confirm keke


wow, i am interesting to join

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« Reply #25 on: July 05, 2017, 18:02 »


BUT, you know what is the single biggest reason to get them? For the bragging rights. You can say, I'm going to get these CCB speakers. Or I just got these CCB speakers.

Seriously... the short form is super hilarious. Surprised they didn't realise it lol. Must tell Dr Hsu

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« Reply #26 on: July 05, 2017, 18:04 »

wow, i am interesting to join

Ok now we are talking. ;D ;D if include me, think got 3 buyers liao

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« Reply #27 on: July 05, 2017, 23:17 »
have la... The psa and hsu ones passed ;) but if possible, looking for the horn type...
Ever consider the Klipsch Heresy 3 for all your LCR?

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« Reply #28 on: July 06, 2017, 23:29 »
Ever consider the Klipsch Heresy 3 for all your LCR?

thx for this. just googled it. Looks interesting. What's the price for a pair?

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« Reply #29 on: July 07, 2017, 00:08 »
Honestly, coaxials are waveguides too, just look at the kef LS50 polars or off axis response.  You can't get that kind of even smooth dispersion without a waveguide. I have not seen any measurements of the CCB 8 from Hsu. But the materials all point to the fact that this is a full blown constant directivity design, ie horn /waveguide. Being a Coaxial, and constant directivity to boot , it's superior to a regular 2 way TM horn design.

Don Keele helped design the pole piece and woofer cone profile to act as a constant directivity waveguide. Keele is most well known for his work in CBT, which are a type of constant directivity line arrays. Definitely knows his stuff. I think this is the one for you. Hehe. Looks great with grills on and off too.

BUT, you know what is the single biggest reason to get them? For the bragging rights. You can say, I'm going to get these CCB speakers. Or I just got these CCB speakers.

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U have to read this man....

http://www.hsuresearch.com/reviews/CCB8-WSR-Jun2017.pdf

http://www.hsuresearch.com/reviews/Audioholics_CCB8_AXPONA2017.pdf

I'm very poisoned  ;D ;D ;D save me!!!
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« Reply #30 on: July 07, 2017, 00:51 »
Seriously... the short form is super hilarious. Surprised they didn't realise it lol. Must tell Dr Hsu
He's pulling a fast joke on the ang mohs, at the same time a shout out to his fellow Singaporeans.

We must sarpork!!!

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« Reply #31 on: July 07, 2017, 22:38 »
thx for this. just googled it. Looks interesting. What's the price for a pair?
I got mine used, matching five units, from this forum. I sold off 2 of them, and have 3 now for my LCRs.  I would not know how much it is selling locally. However u can consider buying from the usa.

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« Reply #32 on: July 08, 2017, 02:18 »
I got mine used, matching five units, from this forum. I sold off 2 of them, and have 3 now for my LCRs.  I would not know how much it is selling locally. However u can consider buying from the usa.

one day must visit ur hse  ;D

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« Reply #33 on: July 10, 2017, 15:56 »
Ok now we are talking. ;D ;D if include me, think got 3 buyers liao



hi , any outcome on the MO ?

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« Reply #34 on: July 10, 2017, 20:22 »


hi , any outcome on the MO ?

Contacting the owner. Will update ;)

Whoever is interested, pm me k

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« Reply #36 on: July 12, 2017, 09:52 »
Posted a group buy for the HSU speakers. Those interested,  Pls register ur interest there

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« Reply #38 on: July 27, 2017, 23:31 »
thanks bro! Wah very good review by Jim. He's quite a respected reviewer.
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« Reply #40 on: October 03, 2017, 22:06 »
Any reviews on the speakers from those who got from MO?

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« Reply #41 on: October 03, 2017, 23:53 »
akan datang, still in the midst of collection, will take some time i guess. But I think those who have just collected, have prelim inputs to atest to the excellent imaging and affirm what the reviews mentioned. If they set it up correctly by angling the way Dr Hsu suggested, it should be nothing short of amazing for a speaker at this price point.
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« Reply #42 on: February 11, 2019, 12:17 »
my set of HSU CCB- LCR is on sales , who interesting can PM me