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Smyth Research A16 Realiser discussion
« on: March 14, 2017, 13:45 »
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Re: Smyth Research A16 Realiser discussion
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2017, 15:18 »
Missed this last weekend. Hopefully SLT will have a demo unit when they are ready to take preorders. It would also be great to see some clips on how the A16 is physically connected to the Blu Ray Player & AVR. Or is the AVR not even part of the chain?
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Re: Smyth Research A16 Realiser discussion
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2017, 15:29 »
It has HDMI in.

I could clearly tell a difference between the HD800 and the 11.1 system, but then that's to be expected- different drivers and all. Mike Smyth agreed.

But what I really liked was that the sound stayed absolutely fixed in position as you moved your head. This is a key part of the speaker-listening experience (in 2ch) that you I never realised I 'missed' in headphones. When you listen to speakers you move, you talk, you bob your head, etc- the sound is always coming from the same place.

With IEMs and Headphones this has never been the case.

Absolutely looking forward to trying this with my 2ch music. Not gonna use it for movies much.

BTW, it has USB (digital), HDMI (digital) and analogue in, then headphone out or line out (for example to use with Stax).

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Re: Smyth Research A16 Realiser discussion
« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2017, 15:35 »
The a16 demo at the show used an Oppo update-203 with Hdmi audio out to the a16 and Hdmi video out to the tv, but we could have passed the video thru the a16 optionally too. We used all Yamaha active studio monitors in the room and a medium size Yamaha sub. That's was it.


The a16 outputs all 16 channels in line level for active speakers or amplifier inputs plus has 2 individual headphone outputs for both 6.3mm connection or rca line level for using with your preferred headphone amp if you desire. Optional you can feed to an avr via hdmi and use that for your driving the speakers.


The a16 decodes all multichannel formats and can upsample from 2.0 to 7.1.4 or more too and virtualise that in 2 channels on your headphones...spooky goodness  ???
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Re: Smyth Research A16 Realiser discussion
« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2017, 15:37 »
Can you just imagine how this might sound with the DAVE/ Blu MkII combo... ❤
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Re: Smyth Research A16 Realiser discussion
« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2017, 16:50 »
Here's what I posted earlier

Thread necromancer level - XTREME! :P

2 threads in 2 days.

So I've been checking out the new Smyth Realiser A16 with Smyth Virtual Surround and it's waaaay more than I bargained for :)

It includes ONLY ONE HDMI2.0/HDCP2.2 compliant input - which kind of sucks, and it only has mini stereo outputs BUT that's really it. The only downsides.

Here's what it does offer.

Dolby Atmos/DTS X/Auro 3D decoding built right in. And with support for up to 16 channels!!! in future firmware updates.

Smyth is the "S" in DTS, so I guess we know the pedigree of the company - even if you never played with the old A8 Realiser. Which was bloody awesome.

You can run the A16 in complete bypass mode so it works like a regular AV Pre Pro - but from the marketing material, it looks like they'll also support at least one other format, Ambisonics? Which is a 15.1 format?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mZhN3OG-tc

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And this is before you factor in the cool headphone virtual surround which mimics your existing speakers!! Up to 16 of them!

If you don't like the headphone stand version, just grab the 2U rack mount version.

All for $1950 US. Pretty affordable methinks!!
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Re: Smyth Research A16 Realiser discussion
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2017, 18:48 »
The A16 really takes the A8 into the next level of capability.


Was going to post the links again here for the other you tubes but on my iPad it's a pain to select and optimize links as such....maybe later when I'm on my computer.
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Re: Smyth Research A16 Realiser discussion
« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2017, 23:40 »
So there is a local pricing already? Tired the old A8 during one of the ISSE, was real impressed.

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Re: Smyth Research A16 Realiser discussion
« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2017, 02:31 »
Final pricing is still not confirmed from Smyth as yet.
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Re: Smyth Research A16 Realiser discussion
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2017, 16:13 »
Hi anyone ordered this? From US website , Pre-sale Offer: US$1795 + shipping + taxes , was it ever preordered at lower price than US$1795 ? curious if any price increase as some articles mentioned US$1495 last year.

Any shops in singapore taking orders?


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Re: Smyth Research A16 Realiser discussion
« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2017, 16:34 »
Hi anyone ordered this? From US website , Pre-sale Offer: US$1795 + shipping + taxes , was it ever preordered at lower price than US$1795 ? curious if any price increase as some articles mentioned US$1495 last year.

Any shops in singapore taking orders?



It was a crowd funded exercise so it was cheaper initially.

But it was delayed a few times. Ordering now - it looks likely to be a Dec shipping.. that's almost 9 months later than promised.
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Re: Smyth Research A16 Realiser discussion
« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2017, 16:38 »
I have one on order...james emails updates and looks like units should ship in December.


The special pre retail pricing ends this month so if you want better jump on the program before Sunday.
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Re: Smyth Research A16 Realiser discussion
« Reply #12 on: September 28, 2017, 19:30 »
Hi anyone knows how much is estimated shipping to singapore?

Totally new in headphone game. what is total expected cost of whole system to work ? plan to buy 2 headphones. anything other things to buy like cables?



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It's wonderful to behold as long as you don't let the magic smoke out.

Life is short! Enjoy the music while it plays, when it stops, there might be a chair for you...or  maybe not.

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Re: Smyth Research A16 Realiser discussion
« Reply #15 on: August 13, 2019, 16:31 »
looks like this is finally shipping :)

August 2019 Update:
We will begin shipping Realiser A16 units this week, and this will continue over the next several months. Since the testing procedure is quite involved we’re only expecting to ship around 10 to 20 units per week. We’ll be posting weekly updates on the numbers that have been shipped, which is intended to give backers some indication of our progress.
The A16 is being shipped with only a single operating mode and with a slightly reduced set of features, outlined below. DTS-X and Auro3D are yet to be certified. If and when these are certified, they will be available in future firmware updates. Other operating modes and features may also be introduced in the future as firmware updates.
Realiser A16 specifications, Firmware v1.0, August 2019
Analogue audio inputs/outputs
1. 16ch input + 16ch output, phono, 2.5Vrms
2. 2ch stereo input, phono, 2.5Vrms
3. 2ch tactile output, phono, 2.5Vrms (DC to 120Hz)
Digital audio inputs/outputs
1. HDMI 2.0b* input (8ch LPCM and bitstream)
2. SPDIF input (coaxial or optical) (2ch LPCM and bitstream)
3. USB 2.0 (16ch, 24bit, 96kHz LPCM) (Drivers for PC and Mac)
* : HDR10+ not supported
Headphone outputs (dual users)
1. Analogue, stereo 1/4” jack and 2ch phono
2. Digital stereo, SPDIF, 24bit @ 48kHz (coaxial and optical)
Ancillary inputs/outputs
1. HDMI 2.0b output (video pass-thru* from any HDMI input)
2. Microphone inputs (dual, for supplied binaural PRIR/HPEQ measurement microphones)
3. Headtracker input (for supplied head-tracker)
4. Set-top input (for supplied set-top IR reference)
5. Micro SD card port (for external PRIR/HPEQ file storage and firmware updates)
* : HDR10+ not supported
Audio bitstream decoding/rendering capability
1. Dolby Atmos (listening modes up to 9.1.6ch)
2. Dolby TrueHD (up to 7.1ch)
3. Dolby Digital (up to 5.1ch)
4. Dolby Digital+ (up to 7.1ch)
5. Dolby Surround upmixing to a 7.1.6ch listening mode
SVS headphone rendering capability
1. Dual users, each user can render 16 virtual loudspeakers in any spatial position
2. Individual headtracking (azimuth only) for both users simultaneously
3. Audio sources : HDMI 1 to 4 (LPCM or bitstream), USB 2.0 (up to 16ch), 16ch analogue, 2ch analogue, SPDIF coaxial or optical (LPCM or bitstream). Audio sources are common to both users.
4. All SVS processing and rendering @ 48kHz sampling rate, 32ms latency, max reverb length 0.75s
AV rendering mode
1. Analogue and digital audio inputs (USB and SPDIF) can be output via the multi-channel analogue line outputs.
2. Decoded Dolby Atmos, Dolby TrueHD, Dolby Digital, and Dolby Digital+ bitstream signals can be output via the multi-channel analogue line outputs.
Binaural room impulse response measurement (PRIR measurement)
1. 16ch synchronous measurement using internally generated excitation signals from the 16ch analogue outputs.
Headphone equalisation (HPEQ measurement)
1. Automatic headphone EQ measurement using binaural microphones
2. Manual headphone EQ using equal loudness noise bands
3. Manual headphone EQ using an external loudspeaker reference
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Re: Smyth Research A16 Realiser discussion
« Reply #16 on: August 13, 2019, 19:52 »
Looks interesting. But at usd 4000...

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Re: Smyth Research A16 Realiser discussion
« Reply #17 on: August 13, 2019, 21:50 »
well don't complain if you wanted one before it was closer to 2K at pre launch...with partial deposit.


I hope to have mine shipping soon....but I'm a little disappointed about no DTS-X at this time.


I would still like to see a user manual before finally getting full money on the table.


It's been a bloody long wait...hope its all it was when I first tried it and demo'd it.
« Last Edit: August 13, 2019, 21:52 by wizardofoz »
I have a pile of stuff that pushes out squiggly waveforms from smaller squiggly waveforms that sometimes come from 1's and 0's.
It's wonderful to behold as long as you don't let the magic smoke out.

Life is short! Enjoy the music while it plays, when it stops, there might be a chair for you...or  maybe not.