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Re: Opp Sonica DAC discussion
« Reply #15 on: February 21, 2017, 01:57 »
You can read the specs on the Oppo site...no point to reproduce it all again here.

But USB up to 32/768 is possible, but upscaling I'm not sure if it's NOS or OS, but I assume the later.

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Re: Opp Sonica DAC discussion
« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2017, 00:37 »
A recent review here http://hometheaterreview.com/oppo-sonica-dac-reviewed/


Also Siegfried Linkwitz is now using one in his setup


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Re: Opp Sonica DAC discussion
« Reply #17 on: March 22, 2017, 09:59 »
I've just heard from the local Oppo distributor in Australia that Oppo has decided not to go through with the Sonica range - and is winding down the production.

You guys are lucky you got yours. Australia didn't even get any production units.

They said they are focussing on the Oppo 205 - which I guess will still carry the same sonic performance.

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Re: Opp Sonica DAC discussion
« Reply #18 on: March 22, 2017, 13:28 »
i guess the HA-1 will be next in line to get an upgrade, based on the tech from the Oppo 205.
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Re: Opp Sonica DAC discussion
« Reply #19 on: April 04, 2017, 19:59 »
https://www.oppodigital.com/sonica/ Still being available in the USA


https://www.oppodigital.com/sonica-dac/ Likewise still available in the USA


So maybe the Aust distributor is not wanting to carry the Sonica ranges?


As far as I know the Speaker range might be limited life or perhaps no longer for export but the DAC is still being made ready for production and has had some delays.
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Re: Opp Sonica DAC discussion
« Reply #20 on: April 04, 2017, 20:54 »
https://www.oppodigital.com/sonica/ Still being available in the USA


https://www.oppodigital.com/sonica-dac/ Likewise still available in the USA


So maybe the Aust distributor is not wanting to carry the Sonica ranges?


As far as I know the Speaker range might be limited life or perhaps no longer for export but the DAC is still being made ready for production and has had some delays.

Nope we had presales of the Sonica DAC. But Oppo pulled the plug on the Sonica range from what we were told. They are shipping the stock from here back to US and will be selling them thru US.

The word was that they would be focusing on their other product ranges. Which I suspect would be the 205 and HA1 replacement.

The pricing of the Sonica DAC here was 1199 which made it an incredible price imho
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Re: Opp Sonica DAC discussion
« Reply #21 on: April 04, 2017, 22:55 »
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« Reply #22 on: April 04, 2017, 23:07 »
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Re: Opp Sonica DAC discussion
« Reply #23 on: April 04, 2017, 23:45 »
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Re: Opp Sonica DAC discussion
« Reply #24 on: April 05, 2017, 08:42 »
It was $1099AUD :)
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Re: Opp Sonica DAC discussion
« Reply #25 on: April 27, 2017, 08:43 »
Actually was looking out for a Cambridge Audio CXN or 851N and wondering what I will be missing on either the Cambridge Audio pair or this Oppo Sonica.

I am quite vain and so I like the color display on the Cambridge Audio and would really want a unit in silver to match my other audio gear.
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Re: Opp Sonica DAC discussion
« Reply #26 on: April 27, 2017, 11:41 »
If want to stream from NAS, does it requires DLNA or SMB protocols? In my understanding DLNA requires rendering to be done at the source, such as NAS, which is inferior. SMB requires rendering to be done on the playback end, for instance the streamer; manufacturer can optimised the rendering engine for better quality playback.


Suggest you read the manual available online. In the meantime I will will check, as I'm only familiar with using on USB currently
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Re: Opp Sonica DAC discussion
« Reply #27 on: April 28, 2017, 00:12 »
DLNA based on the Oppo website
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Re: Opp Sonica DAC discussion
« Reply #28 on: April 29, 2017, 08:22 »
... In my understanding DLNA requires rendering to be done at the source, such as NAS, which is inferior. SMB requires rendering to be done on the playback end, for instance the streamer; manufacturer can optimised the rendering engine for better quality playback.

Nah, it doesn’t work that way…

In both 2 and 3 component DLNA set-ups, the renderer is always the digital-to-analog conversion point in the set-up; for Audio that’d be with a DAC, or for Video that be the TV. The NAS is the server point or file source only, not a renderer. Pretty much every NAS supplier has a DLNA server, that when enabled, will be visible to any DLNA renderer/control-point in the network.

SMB (and CIFS) is just a file networking protocol, there's no "rendering" involved. It's entirely up to a DAC to stream source flows from a NAS via SMB (if supported) and render that digital stream by itself separately (i.e. not relate to the SMB protocol at all).

I don’t have direct knowledge of what the Oppo supports or not, but it will behave no different to that described above. Like Whiz suggests, maybe you should RTFM :)
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Re: Opp Sonica DAC discussion
« Reply #29 on: May 12, 2017, 22:15 »
DLNA requires DMS (Digital Media Server at source, e.g, NAS) and DMR (Digital Media Renderer, at the receiver, PC or playback software) to work together:
https://www.computeraudiophile.com/ca/ca-academy/the-complete-guide-to-hifi-upnp-dlna-network-audio/

.... blah blah blah

In a SMB/CIFS, the receiver, PC or the playback software see the NAS as a file data storage; the rendering is done by playback software, such as Roon, JRiver etc, thus it has better control on the rendering quality. The renderer engine can be updated to support new format and higher sampling frequency.

Tell me something I don’t already know ::)… the DLNA architecture works on the basis of 3 key discrete components; a Server, a Renderer, and a Control-point (either standalone or built-into the Renderer).

The primary purpose of Roon and JRiver are not as Renderers, but as software transports, or more commonly referred to as streaming bridges; because they are mostly used for digital-in/digital-out; retrieve media streams from HDD/USB/NAS (SMB over Ethernet) and output digital bit streams over USB or Ethernet to a DAC. 

A Renderer on the other hand, is the digital-to-analog conversion point, i.e. it renders the digital stream into analog. Moving bitstreams in one digital format to another digital format is not rendering.

By the way, why are you continuing to use two different IDs; “guymrob” and “MusicEar” to post? Pretending to be two different people?
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