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can someone advise whether a notebook(acer,win 8.1. i5 core, 8g ram) is enough or for best sounds, I need to build a pc? if so, how?
thanks for your advice
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can someone advise whether a notebook(acer,win 8.1. i5 core, 8g ram) is enough or for best sounds, I need to build a pc? if so, how?
thanks for your advice
Ot.  You giving up vinyl?  BTW is the rp1 still around?  Another bro here wants to take over.

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Get a Mac Mini.

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Ot.  You giving up vinyl?  BTW is the rp1 still around?  Another bro here wants to take over.

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OK great.  I will hook a fellow forumer up with you.  He is interested to try vinyl...

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I was informed that a notebook is not as good as a custom built pc, is that correct?
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can anyone help me build one? can reimburse you for your time
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Here's a quick primer on computer audio.

Less is more.
- Less power
- Fewer moving parts

Getting a lower powered machine means you can sometimes run without a large power supply and without a fan.

There are special cases from Streacom which provide heatsink fins on the edges to help cool the CPUs passively.
A reasonably large case allows you to compartmentalise the components.

Using lower powered components also mean you don't need a large PSU so you can opt for a linear power supply which is a lot less power efficient but is a LOT less noisy than a switched mode PSU.

You can customise one without exorbitant prices at quietpc.com.au - they are based in the UK or you can order components and assemble it yourself.

The simplest solution IMHO is to get a Mac Mini and send it to Sound Affairs to modify it to run off a linear PSU, which they also sell. You can swap the HDD if you buy the base model, for an SSD and upgrade the RAM to max.. 16GB would be excellent. Sound Affairs can also remove the fan if you use the computer in an air conditioned environment.

So why is a notebook bad?

Every component is packed closely together.. increasing noise (EMI RF) contamination, and also most use noisy fans to cool the CPU.
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From my own experience, (best to worst)

Aurender N10 > Auralic Aries > Mac Mini running Pure Music > Macbook Pro running Pure Muisc > Squeezebox Touch > PC (albeit non-optimised, but running JPLAY / Foobar)

Less is more !

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Here's a quick primer on computer audio.

Less is more.
- Less power
- Fewer moving parts

Getting a lower powered machine means you can sometimes run without a large power supply and without a fan.

There are special cases from Streacom which provide heatsink fins on the edges to help cool the CPUs passively.
A reasonably large case allows you to compartmentalise the components.

Using lower powered components also mean you don't need a large PSU so you can opt for a linear power supply which is a lot less power efficient but is a LOT less noisy than a switched mode PSU.

You can customise one without exorbitant prices at quietpc.com.au - they are based in the UK or you can order components and assemble it yourself.

The simplest solution IMHO is to get a Mac Mini and send it to Sound Affairs to modify it to run off a linear PSU, which they also sell. You can swap the HDD if you buy the base model, for an SSD and upgrade the RAM to max.. 16GB would be excellent. Sound Affairs can also remove the fan if you use the computer in an air conditioned environment.

So why is a notebook bad?

Every component is packed closely together.. increasing noise (EMI RF) contamination, and also most use noisy fans to cool the CPU.
won't running a notebook on batteries be ok also?
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won't running a notebook on batteries be ok also?

a. Batteries aren't necessarily noise free.
b. close proximity of all the components in the notebook
c. additional noise of display and other integrated components of a notebook
d. DC-DC regulation can be noisy

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thanks howser
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Re: 1st foray into computer audio, using the ayon stratos. need advice
« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2015, 09:47 »
Bro ...

Yes, less is more!

Try a Raspberry Pi2 with dedicated music OS and linear PS. Left my Win8 i5 laptop + Jplay in the dust. Truly.
« Last Edit: November 07, 2015, 10:13 by Bernie7 »
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