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Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
« Reply #1590 on: August 05, 2020, 16:22 »
Nice good UHD 4K player jailbreaked just to play multi-region, multi-zone DVD and Blu-Ray is such a waste.

Leave the new player alone.  Get an old BR player to jailbreak.

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Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
« Reply #1591 on: August 05, 2020, 17:37 »
One other potential benefit of the UB820 JB is the option to choose Basic (350 nits) / High (500 nits) Luminance Projector HDR Display Types. This option is built in to the higher end UB9000 but not available in the default UB820 firmware.

Helpful if one is using a projector and does not want to spend money on the higher end audio features of the UB9000.

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Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
« Reply #1592 on: August 05, 2020, 18:15 »
One other thing to consider in getting a 4K player is that the Sonys, even the relatively cheap and available X700, will upconvert all content to low latency DV if you set the player to "player-led" dolby vision with a HDFury device (see the thread on HDFury). This means that you can apply Dolby Vision tone mapping to SDR (Blu Ray) and HDR10 (non DV UHD) content and display all content (including native DV) on any non-DV HDR10 display. This is possibly quite important if you have a display that doesn't support Dolby Vision as the X700/HDFury gives the non-DV display Dolby Vision and for all sources even Blu Ray. Even if you have a DV display, this allows you to upconvert SDR and HDR10. Several of us have tried this LLDV conversion and have very good results, especially for projectors that have, so far, not been sold with Dolby Vision.

Although I have a UB820 and find it's HDR Optimizer very effective on my BenQ projector, if I were in the market today, I would probably get a Sony UHD player and the HDFury Vertex2 ($600). If you can wait a bit, a cheaper device called the HDFury Arcana is coming out in September that does the same thing for about $300. Non Sony UHD players (with the exception of the discontinued Oppo) will not be able to upconvert SDR and HDR10 to DV.


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Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
« Reply #1594 on: September 14, 2020, 12:55 »
i am leaning towards getting a Sony 1100... not sure against the UB9000.
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Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
« Reply #1595 on: September 14, 2020, 13:12 »
i am leaning towards getting a Sony 1100... not sure against the UB9000.
Bro, if you want the region free version, Amazon SG sells it. The main reason to get the UB 9000 is for it's stereo performance, but I think you have a much better CD / music based system so it might be better for you to get a basic player like the X1100 or X800 MKII and use the money saved towards a nice CD transport? Besides the Panasonic will be region B if you import from UK or Oz... cheers
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Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
« Reply #1596 on: September 14, 2020, 13:46 »
...The main reason to get the UB 9000 is for it's stereo performance...
Audio DAC? Doesn't seems so when we look back at the previous posts, including another dedicated thread on UB820.
The key reason to get the UB9k, most of the bros here, seems to be lean towards the Video side of performance, especially with projection setup. Sony without doubt, SACD compatibility.

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Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
« Reply #1597 on: September 14, 2020, 21:38 »
Audio DAC? Doesn't seems so when we look back at the previous posts, including another dedicated thread on UB820.
The key reason to get the UB9k, most of the bros here, seems to be lean towards the Video side of performance, especially with projection setup. Sony without doubt, SACD compatibility.
That's the point bro, the 820 is sufficient for videophiles.
The extra outlay is largely for the audio bits...
The Sony has a more basic AKM chip... decent but not in the same class...
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Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
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Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
« Reply #1599 on: September 19, 2020, 19:24 »
Do all the HDR optimizer and adjustment features of the 820 apply/available when you stream Netflix/Amazon in 4K?

I am currently using Apple TV 4K to stream with my Epson EH-TW7000. Even though the Epson has HDR adjustment, the range is rather limited and the overall 4K HDR streaming experience is underwhelming...

Is it worthwhile to spent that extra $ to get better 4K HDR pictures from streaming platform with entry level HDR 4K projector like Epson 7000?

820 is now available from Amazon UK for S$500 plus.

Greatly appreciate advise and opinions from fellow Bros here.

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Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
« Reply #1600 on: September 19, 2020, 19:32 »
Do all the HDR optimizer and adjustment features of the 820 apply/available when you stream Netflix/Amazon in 4K?

I am currently using Apple TV 4K to stream with my Epson EH-TW7000. Even though the Epson has HDR adjustment, the range is rather limited and the overall 4K HDR streaming experience is underwhelming...

Is it worthwhile to spent that extra $ to get better 4K HDR pictures from streaming platform with entry level HDR 4K projector like Epson 7000?

820 is now available from Amazon UK for S$500 plus.

Greatly appreciate advise and opinions from fellow Bros here.

Thanks


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Good question. I also wish to know too. I might bring my ub9000 into my HT room to try.
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Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
« Reply #1601 on: September 19, 2020, 20:05 »
Do you recall the pic I sent you from Munich?
The 9000 is a real beast man..
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Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
« Reply #1602 on: September 19, 2020, 20:33 »
So the UK & Singapore version of the UB9000 is different from the Japanese version?

Those AK4493/97 DACs in the UB9000 are superb. They are highly accurate, but have a warm tonal signature and I just love the sound. However, you don't need to buy a UB9000 to get it. The Topping E30 DAC has the AK4493 and costs just S$150 on Shopee.

The DAC in the UB820 isn't that good. All the Panny UHD players function as DLNA/UPNP nodes. Hence they are directly supported as end points by software that outputs UPNP such as Roon or Audirvana. I've been able to upsample in Audirvana and send it to my UB820.

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Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
« Reply #1603 on: September 19, 2020, 22:35 »
Do you recall the pic I sent you from Munich?
The 9000 is a real beast man..
no doubt about that´╝îpretty hefty to move around. almost close to a laserdisc player weight, even much heavier than the Philips BDP9700.

Philips need to make a Premium replacement to put them back to the Audio Arena man...

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Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
« Reply #1604 on: September 20, 2020, 06:00 »
So the UK & Singapore version of the UB9000 is different from the Japanese version?
What we get to to buy from overseas, Europe/UK(MiCz) or Australia/USA(MiCn) are different from Japan specs.
SG Panasonic until today... no news...

 

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