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Better Call Saul
« on: March 23, 2015, 15:54 »


Better Call Saul - spinoff from Breaking Bad

Anyone else watching this?
Now already at episode 7, tells the story of Saul Goodman from Breaking Bad.

I was apprehensive at first, but I have really grown to love this show.
The drama is quirky, the style is unmistakably Breaking Bad, and the story line is awesome!

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Re: Better Call Saul
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2015, 16:32 »
I am watching this and loving it. It has that slightly off-beat feel which is different from the severity of Breaking Bad. So full of black humour and nods to BB. I think a BB fan would enjoy this more than the cursory viewer who chanced upon this. The first episode had me and my wife cheering when we saw the beginnings of two BB staple characters.

Bob Odenkirk can really act. I love his role in BB but BCS really shows what he can do.
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Re: Better Call Saul
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2015, 17:33 »
Yeah, I love the way the character is panning out. In Breaking Bad, I always saw Saul Goodman as a money-grubbing, heartless lawyer.
This show gives us so much insight to his life and his beginnings. Keep finding myself rooting for him, even though I know he will fail.

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Re: Better Call Saul
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2015, 18:03 »
Just saw all 10 episodes.. really heart wrenching.

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Re: Better Call Saul
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2016, 05:02 »
Just finished Season 2 of Better Call Saul.
I really love this show! Yes, it seems slow, it looks boring, but if you really follow the story, it's a great show!

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Re: Better Call Saul
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2016, 08:22 »


Love this season's poster. It says so much without telling you anything.

If season 1 established the world of Better Call Saul, it really comes into its own in season 2. This is a series that displays so much confidence and knows what it wants to be - a character-driven suspense drama. It never panders to anyone. If your main complaint is "it is so fcuking slow", then IMHO the failure is yours. It never, not for one second, stoops down to give you generic action scenes, car chases, whip-smart dialogue synchronised to heightened music. The story isn't based on these staples; it is instead based on drawing out compelling characters in "true to life" situations. For BB fans, we already know how each one of the characters would pan out, but how Vince Gilligan lays out the groundwork is nothing short of amazing. In a million years I wouldn't be able to guess BCS is about the love between brothers and sibling jealousy.

If season 1 introduces the two main characters - Jimmy and Mike, I feel this season is all about Chuck. What a fine actor! I pity him as much as I want to slap him under a gigantic florescent light. Not for Howard Hamlin though; that "always turns up his nose" face I feel like bashing! And I love the gun dealer. If I want to buy a weapon, I would want to buy it from that fella. What a character!

Each episode of season 1 can at times feel it is about one thing stretched out to 50min. Season 2 does a much better job with this deliberate pacing. Each time the story centres on Jimmy, I couldn't wait to see what happens to Mike, and vice versa. Last night's finale is so good. None of that stupid cliffhanger bullshite. It just closes a chapter on the characters and they are a few steps closer to what they will become in BB. I can't wait to find out more about them.

This is one of the best series currently on TV and I can confidently say there is nothing out there that even resembles BCS.

PS - any idea on who put the note on Mike's car? I think I know who... No, I know who I want it to be - Gus Fring!!!!!
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Re: Better Call Saul
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2016, 09:17 »
WEB, as usual that's a fantastic review!

Yes, Chuck was fantastic. I'm so conflicted about him.
I guess what they're trying to tell is that the people who outwardly appear so kind and harmless can be vengeful and conniving, while a person whom everyone perceives as a slimeball can be so caring and faithful.

The sniping scene was so tense!
Gus Fring as in the Chicken king? Never thought of that. Frankly I found it a bit weird that the car horn sounded so long but the bad guys couldn't hear it.

[Spoiler Alert]
Did some Googling and it looks like you were right:
http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2016/04/better-call-saul-gus-frings-back-title-anagram-finale

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Re: Better Call Saul
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2016, 09:49 »
Wow! The fans are hard at work. But I didn't notice the clues in the titles. I just know Vince Gilligan has put in a lot of thought into BCS. No way will he ever parachute a new character in for a season finale. It has to be someone in BB we all know.

One day when BCS ends, I will watch it again and follow it up with BB.
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Re: Better Call Saul
« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2017, 23:19 »
S3E5 is one of the best episodes ever! And I am not even saying it's the best episode of BCS, I think it is one of the best episodes of any series ever. All the deliberate build-up culminates in this one helluva an episode. The whole of Singapore are embroiled in the Oxley saga between two brothers and a sister. It is so surreal that in this episode it is about two brothers going head to head in a battle of wits. The gloves are off, no one will be the same anymore, one loser, one winner, brotherhood is dead. The writing is stellar, the acting sublime and that final shot, chockful of symbolism.
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Re: Better Call Saul
« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2017, 23:30 »
Season 3 is BRILLIANT! This show is a masterpiece. It started slow, but built up to a beautiful crescendo.

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This is it! Any notions that Better Call Saul is a cash grab exercise after the illustrious Breaking Bad is totally dispelled in S3 for even the remotest BB fan. For me, I had no idea why Vince Gilligan and Peter Gould would even take an interesting but sidelined character and weave a series around him, but count me humbled and awed. Just like BB, every season of BCS just improves by leaps and bounds; every major and minor character grows with new layers peeled away. BCS is no longer a cool looking prequel accompaniment to BB, it has come into its own. And if you watch TV series day in day out, you will know that there’s nothing quite like BCS out there.

The payoff of all the storylines culminates here in S3. I have begun to love the slow and deliberate build-up which will be challenging for most people, but it does feel like Vince Gilligan and Peter Gould are weeding out the fake pretenders who came in here thinking it is another BB. The art of storytelling is marvellous – sometimes I have no freaking idea why characters do what they do, like Mike throws a pair of red shoes on a telephone wire or Jimmy throws a drumstick on the floor or the camera holds on Kim for a few seconds longer than necessary and then WHAM! The revelation arrives like a thunderbolt and it knocks one out of the ballpark. My mind starts to scroll through an encyclopedia of scenes from past TV series and movies, and nothing resembles what I have just witnessed. That is a miracle in itself. Most TV series tend to breed familiarity, characters react fast and move like sequenced plot-points. Nobody gets mentally challenged by writers who just wrap a new colourful paper around some regurgitated plot and say it’s a new product.

I can already see the stuff moving towards the events of BB. The suspense is sublime – it teases you, then it slowly squeezes your throat. You will want it to squeeze you faster, but it doesn’t listen to you. It squeezes you till you are out of breath at its own time. There’s a scene of Hector Salamanca telling, more like commanding, Nacho that his dad’s shop will be used as a conduit for his drug shipments. You will see Nacho saying “please no” because he has to give it a shot, but you, like Nacho, already know it is hopeless. You can literally feel the moment Nacho hatches a plan in his head to kill his boss. The scene breathes with potency and authority. You will surrender to its power as more players come in and the plan is executed, all at its own time and then you will start to breathe again.

S3 is also the season that finally brings Gus Fring to the fold. He is such a cool as cucumber character – a drug lord disguised as an everyday man masked behind the veneer of a manager of a fast food chain. S3 plants the seeds of relationship between Gus and Mike, and I am rubbing my hands in glee as the their bond becomes binding.

There is still so much I want to say, but I think I should shut up. You know it is the mark of a great series when you suddenly realised you have been rooting for multi-layered shady characters. You would want the worst to happen to them, but you will want the story to take its time. Knowing how all the players will eventually end up gives me such a sense of melancholy, especially with Jimmy, who lands up as a manager of a Cinnabon outlet. He doesn’t deserve that or does he? Time will tell.

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Re: Better Call Saul
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Re: Better Call Saul
« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2020, 17:45 »
Kim and Nacho - not in Breaking Bad. Wonder what will happen to them next season of Saul...
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Re: Better Call Saul
« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2020, 18:05 »
Kim and Nacho - not in Breaking Bad. Wonder what will happen to them next season of Saul...
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