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Re: What have you learnt in Hifi?
« Reply #15 on: July 01, 2014, 11:41 »
learn that there are many ways to get good sound. Some of the best systems I heard have marble flooring and almost bear walls/ceilings. Some have a few resonators, some have curtains but no heavy room treatments.

also learn that its easier to hear the strenth of the system than its weakness.

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Re: What have you learnt in Hifi?
« Reply #16 on: July 01, 2014, 14:23 »
Cables n Powercords have the highest Profit margins
So if you can DIY your own interconnects or Powercords... a $100 + powercord may beat a $1000 snakeoil Powercord
that leaves you with a lot of $$$$$$ to buy your desired equipments

so DIY is the way to go...even a simple change of capacitors to a Solen improves the sound
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Re: What have you learnt in Hifi?
« Reply #17 on: July 01, 2014, 14:28 »

Cables n Powercords have the highest Profit margins
So if you can DIY your own interconnects or Powercords... a $100 + powercord may beat a $1000 snakeoil Powercord
that leaves you with a lot of $$$$$$ to buy your desired equipments

so DIY is the way to go...even a simple change of capacitors to a Solen improves the sound

Have you ever tried building a commercial product?

Do you know how much it costs to get IEEE and CE and UL certifications? That's even before we get to country certifications.

Plus there's a fair bit of test and development that goes on. How do you know which cables work and which don't?

When it comes to power products the certification process is IMHO not trivial.
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Re: What have you learnt in Hifi?
« Reply #18 on: July 01, 2014, 15:12 »
You can learn many unexpected things from trying out so-called snake oil products

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I prefer to learn from other people regarding this

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Re: What have you learnt in Hifi?
« Reply #19 on: July 01, 2014, 15:20 »
My system is the best system.  ::)

*Best value that I can afford as of now
*Best sound that I can tweak/tune as of now
*Best... For me as of now

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Re: What have you learnt in Hifi?
« Reply #20 on: July 01, 2014, 15:30 »
...is that audio is about compromises.
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Re: What have you learnt in Hifi?
« Reply #21 on: July 01, 2014, 15:46 »
Use your heart to feel the music and not based on technical specifications and ears. Over the years as I keep trying many hi fi system I moving in the direction of music feelings instead of hearing the sound separation and accuracy which I started with.

In simple form, we talked about how musical the hi fi set is in which different listeners may have their own preferences.

:) I guess those brothers who played many years of hi fi feel this way too ?

Move on to the next level of listening. Use your heart to feel the music.

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Re: What have you learnt in Hifi?
« Reply #22 on: July 01, 2014, 15:52 »
Learn to build raw components.

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Re: What have you learnt in Hifi?
« Reply #23 on: July 01, 2014, 19:35 »
Just do your own thing and enjoy the journey or the destination, the music or the equipment, or all of the above. None of them are mutually exclusive, and anyone that tells you otherwise is full of shít.  :)
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Re: What have you learnt in Hifi?
« Reply #24 on: July 01, 2014, 20:53 »
For me it's about enjoying music and make more friends. So far all the friends that I've met through hifi are very nice people.

Everyone has different preference. There's no right or wrong. Some people believe in expensive equipment while some believe in accessories and some believe in room treatment. What's right to me may not be right to another. Well so we enjoy music as a whole and make more friends. We should share the joy of new equipment and not criticse.

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Re: What have you learnt in Hifi?
« Reply #25 on: July 02, 2014, 10:22 »
It is an expensive hobby. It is even more expensive if you DIY your own equipment, in terms of time, energy and emotions.
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Re: What have you learnt in Hifi?
« Reply #26 on: July 02, 2014, 11:10 »
Involve your spouse too...when your spouse says to you hey I want to play some vinyl, or how to get this playing then its a win.


When I get new things or do DIY (and I do quite a bit) its a real bonus when friends come over and your and wife says .."hey go and check out the new 'whatever it is' that is now running - sounds amazing" its a win.


I find myself enjoying the music now more just the equipment...but knowing exactly what went into the DIY stuff is good.


Its about wanting what you have...not having what you want. Make the most of whatever it is you have. Enjoy the music - this is surely the prime objective. If you are buying items just to look...then its art...not hifi.
I have a pile of stuff that pushes out squiggly waveforms from smaller squiggly waveforms that sometimes come from 1's and 0's.
It's wonderful to behold as long as you don't let the magic smoke out.

Life is short! Enjoy the music while it plays, when it stops, there might be a chair for you...or  maybe not.

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Re: What have you learnt in Hifi?
« Reply #27 on: July 02, 2014, 11:29 »
Have you ever tried building a commercial product?

Do you know how much it costs to get IEEE and CE and UL certifications? That's even before we get to country certifications.

Plus there's a fair bit of test and development that goes on. How do you know which cables work and which don't?

When it comes to power products the certification process is IMHO not trivial.

Why would I want to build a commercial product ?
I am making cables for my own use...so...IEEE and CE and UL certifications don't  mean anything to me

all I care abt is it costs me 10 % of market price and I am Happy
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Re: What have you learnt in Hifi?
« Reply #28 on: July 02, 2014, 13:37 »
Why would I want to build a commercial product ?
I am making cables for my own use...so...IEEE and CE and UL certifications don't  mean anything to me

all I care abt is it costs me 10 % of market price and I am Happy

u copied a particular design or did your own R&D to select cable materials, design, plugs, shielding, thicknes.. etc?

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Re: What have you learnt in Hifi?
« Reply #29 on: July 03, 2014, 10:57 »
Of course there are people who can do it cheaper since they don't have to spend $$$ on R&D and prototyping costs, expensive alloy chassis, machining cost, PCB fabrication, MoQ on parts, various certifications of approval for safety and sometimes, patent costs. So if you remove all those, you can get it done cheaper since all the leg work has already been done by those who can afford to. Just take a circuit and colour by numbers.
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