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Re: Lumin Audiophile Network Player
« Reply #75 on: May 03, 2014, 13:36 »
I believe bro Audio will be best person to comment as he has some of the items u wish to have comparison.

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Re: Lumin Audiophile Network Player
« Reply #76 on: May 03, 2014, 15:00 »
Just found out that there will be other Lumin models. The S1 will play DSD128 which is higher than the original model of DSD64

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Re: Lumin Audiophile Network Player
« Reply #77 on: May 05, 2014, 09:34 »
Hi all, sorry to dig up this old thread. I'm keen to explore DSD music and sadly my current DAC is limited to 24/96 - I'm using the macmini with Amarra software. I'm quite keen on the Lumin to play DSD materials and I have a pending trip to HK next week where I think the price may be cheaper?

I gather from the net that much rave might be attributed to the attractive intro price of US$4k but there seems to be some caveats at the current price level. Is this true? There also seems to be some competition from Sony (HAPz1ES) and Marantz (NA11).

Any thoughts from users or bros who have heard and compared? Thanks.


The Lumin sounded very much better than the HAP-Z1ES.  It doesn't mean that the HAP-Z1Es is bad....the Lumin just have more clarity and precison in instrument placement.

Please don't go back to the good old days when the Lumin can be obtained at about US$4K+.  It is now being retailed at US$7.2K in the USA, no joke....and people are buying!!  When I bought it, it was going at HK$36K.   You will be very lucky if you can find a set now.  My friend failed to get one when he was here last month.  And if you can find the S1, it will cost more, I am sure.  Good luck to you.

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Re: Lumin Audiophile Network Player
« Reply #78 on: May 05, 2014, 10:09 »
The Lumin sounded very much better than the HAP-Z1ES.  It doesn't mean that the HAP-Z1Es is bad....the Lumin just have more clarity and precison in instrument placement.

Please don't go back to the good old days when the Lumin can be obtained at about US$4K+.  It is now being retailed at US$7.2K in the USA, no joke....and people are buying!!  When I bought it, it was going at HK$36K.   You will be very lucky if you can find a set now.  My friend failed to get one when he was here last month.  And if you can find the S1, it will cost more, I am sure.  Good luck to you.

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Audio, the comparison is based on the analgoue out from both the players right? I wonder how they fare against each other as a streamer.
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Re: Lumin Audiophile Network Player
« Reply #79 on: May 05, 2014, 10:28 »
There is NO streaming mode (as of now, May 2014) for the HAP-Z1ES.  You only play your files from the HDD within the unit or from an USB external drive connected to it.   You can only transfer your music files into the HAP-Z1ES through the network and that's about it.

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Re: Lumin Audiophile Network Player
« Reply #80 on: May 12, 2014, 00:24 »
Just got back from my overseas trip last night and set up my brand new Lumin. Replaced my MBL dac and played some DSD materials - wow! Very impressive player. Thanks to Bro Audio's advice, the Jriver Mac and. J Remote worked like a charm. Got my library set up in no time - no re tagging necessary. The best part is the sheer speed - it feels instantaneous and that you can play sacd ISO directly! I don't know how they manage to do this. The I remote I used previously pales in comparison.

Will post again for unboxing pics and comments on the sound. Will conduct further burn in although the SQ experience is all positive so far....

By the way, got the Inakustik Cat 7 cable which the dealer swears by... May need more Cat 7 cables (longer runs) soon :)

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Re: Lumin Audiophile Network Player
« Reply #81 on: May 12, 2014, 14:42 »
Nice to know we got another new Lumin user.   Yah, if you never use JRiver before, you will not know just how easy it is.

I wonder how bro composition is doing with his Lumin?

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Re: Lumin Audiophile Network Player
« Reply #82 on: May 12, 2014, 14:49 »
By the way, got the Inakustik Cat 7 cable which the dealer swears by... May need more Cat 7 cables (longer runs) soon :)

Where to buy Inakustik Cat 7 cables?

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Re: Lumin Audiophile Network Player
« Reply #83 on: May 12, 2014, 15:21 »
 I got mine from a dealer in HK. Planning to change the upstream cable from my switch. The cable I bought is not cheap and I wonder if there are more VFM options. The build quality of the Inakustik cable is solid though - especially the heads and the cable shields.

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Re: Lumin Audiophile Network Player
« Reply #84 on: May 15, 2014, 00:03 »
Still running in my set. Played with it for 4 hours nonstop. This setup digs much deeper into my previous setup which consists on Macmini (Amarra)->Oyaide FireWire ->Weiss converter -> Wireworld Platinum Balanced Digital--> MBL Dac.

On the redbook CDs, can easily hear the microphonics. Kind of reminds me of the time I used tube amp. Seems to bring one closer to the recording event itself. Soundstage wise, it seems wider but no deeper than the previous setup. Very rich sounding and can detect no digital edginess even on some tracks I used to have problems with. Listened to all genres eg classical, jazz, pop etc etc.

On SACD, generally good results too. Not all SACDs sound as good or better than CDs. Maybe the Lumin is quite balanced in this regard. I then bought some DXD material from 2L and it made me grin from ear to ear!! The magic sauce - good recording on a hires format.

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Re: Lumin Audiophile Network Player
« Reply #85 on: May 15, 2014, 00:18 »
I used to own the Lumin but no longer. The sound quality is pretty good, as good as my customized PC setup. I eventually sold it off for 2 main reasons.
1. Lumin app cannot display and tag the Star Rating which is a very important functionality for me, unlike JRemote.
2. I cannot run Dirac Room Correction on my PC when using Lumin.
So for me PC is the best, no more streamers and network players for me.

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Re: Lumin Audiophile Network Player
« Reply #86 on: May 15, 2014, 11:00 »
I used to own the Lumin but no longer. The sound quality is pretty good, as good as my customized PC setup. I eventually sold it off for 2 main reasons.
1. Lumin app cannot display and tag the Star Rating which is a very important functionality for me, unlike JRemote.
2. I cannot run Dirac Room Correction on my PC when using Lumin.
So for me PC is the best, no more streamers and network players for me.

I am sorry to learn about this.......only saving grace is that you didn't give it up because of Sound Quality.   :)

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Re: Lumin Audiophile Network Player
« Reply #87 on: May 15, 2014, 21:50 »
Sorry to hear this Bro Composition. Still brewing mine...love it. In fact I just ordered the power supply upgrade together with upgraded umbilical power cord. Supposed to take it to the next level.

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Re: Lumin Audiophile Network Player
« Reply #88 on: May 15, 2014, 21:53 »
Sorry to hear this Bro Composition. Still brewing mine...love it. In fact I just ordered the power supply upgrade together with upgraded umbilical power cord. Supposed to take it to the next level.

No regrets. If you never try you will never know. New stuff ain't always better.

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Re: Lumin Audiophile Network Player
« Reply #89 on: May 15, 2014, 22:46 »
Any word if the A1 be upgraded to DSD 128 capability in the future?