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Offline nfnc

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Re: Lumin Audiophile Network Player
« Reply #270 on: January 08, 2016, 11:10 »
I bought a new Lumin U1 and coupled the Ethernet output to the Ethernet input of my Lumin A/S1.....  Wow wee!!  Champion!   Opps...... I forgot I promised not to argue with AndrewC on all things  networking.   OK.....retreat.

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Re: Lumin Audiophile Network Player
« Reply #271 on: January 08, 2016, 11:15 »
So this Lumin can be hooked to a USB DAC no? How does it compare hooked up to DirectStream DAC vs the standalone Lumin?

It is similar to an Aurender N10 minus internal storage and SSD caching.

So, there are USB and AES/EBU outputs now. Other Lumins have only S/PDIF (and HDMI) outputs.

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Re: Lumin Audiophile Network Player
« Reply #272 on: January 08, 2016, 11:23 »
Pity they chose not to include SSD caching

For achieving the best sound quality, personally I don't believe in having non-essential devices that generate EMI noise inside a transport or player.  Music can be stored in a NAS anyway.
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Re: Lumin Audiophile Network Player
« Reply #273 on: January 08, 2016, 11:31 »
So this Lumin can be hooked to a USB DAC no? How does it compare hooked up to DirectStream DAC vs the standalone Lumin?

The configuration you suggested would be wonderful....Opps, I forgot about the PS-Audio bridge card.......

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Re: Lumin Audiophile Network Player
« Reply #274 on: January 08, 2016, 19:20 »
For achieving the best sound quality, personally I don't believe in having non-essential devices that generate EMI noise inside a transport or player.  Music can be stored in a NAS anyway.

In the analog world, sure, you'd want to have as few “touch-points” on the signal as possible.

But (whether you believe it or not) thats not always the case in the digital world. Especially if you have a time sensitive transport interface like USB audio, buffering bitstream flows and re-streaming them out with a superior-clocked front-end is a good thing!

Everyone knows what a “Playback buffer” is (if not, go google  it) - you won’t find exact details to match this discussion and it’ll often talk about video, but the principles are exactly the same.
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Re: Lumin Audiophile Network Player
« Reply #275 on: January 08, 2016, 19:42 »
I agree with andrewc. In fact, the definition of a transport is flawed if do not include NAS as part of it if streaming from NAS. My recent comparisons on my own streamer between NAS and SSD direct playback shows the SSD direct is miles ahead and that there is a lot more work on NAS to get it to even come close. Many tend to forget that NAS is actually a PC!
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« Reply #276 on: January 08, 2016, 20:02 »
+1 Andrew and Naimster comments

For a year i used nas to stream and feed my lumin,

not until i resurrected my 2012 mac mini , remove all junks and optimize software wise and purely run minimserver and vnc.
In last few months  I modified again with dual ethernet to split 1 toward my home network and the other one toward lumin, the result is significant positive for each rounds.

Next round if fund allow, may get a mini lps, but yet explore which road should i take to alternatively.





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Re: Lumin Audiophile Network Player
« Reply #277 on: January 08, 2016, 22:40 »
I am not a TT user. But I think most TT users will switch off their digital sources when they are using their TT. Most of them will find that the sound quality will improve when they do that. The reason is that emi being generated by the computer chip inside the digital source. From the testing that I had done, it's close to impossible to completely remove such emi once they are being generated by any computer chip. It can't be removed by dedicated lines, it can't be remove by any kind of power conditioners regardless of price, and etc. In actual fact, the effect of emi generated by digital sources is considered small if it is compared to those generated by devices like nas and computers. Nas and computers are the worst of the worst. In actual fact, I think it's extremely hard to get the sound completely correct once such devices are switched on.

One of the trick to get nice digital sound is to remove any usage of computers and nas. Once this is done, there will be a quantum leap in sound quality produced by DAC or streamers (like linn, naim and Lumin). This is the first and most important step to take.
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Re: Lumin Audiophile Network Player
« Reply #280 on: March 11, 2016, 22:22 »
A newbie here. This lumin products is confusing me. 
My current setup Imac > rega DAC > Amp > Speakers.

Let say I replace my Rega DAC to Lumin D1. Which lumin products allow me to store the music files and 'transfer' to DAC. 

Whats Lumin T and Lumin S. S to stream the files wirelessly? 
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Re: Lumin Audiophile Network Player
« Reply #281 on: March 11, 2016, 22:46 »
All Lumin model has built in dac, only recent published u1 who only act as transport.

Till this point of time there's no Lumin model has internal storage, meaning you should store your digital music collection somewhere (e.g. Pc, NAS, or Lumin made owned NAS - L1)

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Re: Lumin Audiophile Network Player
« Reply #282 on: March 11, 2016, 23:57 »
You are currently using the iMac so that will be your storage.

You replace the Rega DAC with the Lumin.  The difference is Rega uses USB, Lumin use ethernet.

You cannot do wirelessly with the Lumin, why should you pollute your hi fi enviorment with radio emission?  You can use wired ethernet on the Lumin and if you must, do wirelessly from iMac to your router.  Wired connection is better.

On the iMac, you load in JRiver to play your selection.  You do remote control with a iphone with JRemote.

lumin T and Lumin S are higher model from your Lumin D1.  Same function as the D1 but better sound and relatively more expensive.

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Re: Lumin Audiophile Network Player
« Reply #283 on: March 18, 2016, 14:50 »
Lumin app 6.0.2 for iOS now supports sharing of saved playlists among multiple devices such as iPad and iPhone via iCloud. It also adds favorite sort options for Tidal.
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Re: Lumin Audiophile Network Player
« Reply #284 on: March 18, 2016, 23:52 »
Great! , tks wklie