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Offline mkwglyg

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Re: Lumin Audiophile Network Player
« Reply #210 on: July 24, 2015, 18:27 »
Will playing thru the lumin sound better than thru a laptop?

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Re: Lumin Audiophile Network Player
« Reply #211 on: July 24, 2015, 18:40 »
Will playing thru the lumin sound better than thru a laptop?
It is subjective, it depends on whether you want an all-in-one music streamer or you prefers to have seperate devices, with given flexibility to upgrade at either end devices in future at ease. Imo, Lumin D1 sounds great at current price tag.

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Re: Lumin Audiophile Network Player
« Reply #212 on: July 25, 2015, 08:22 »
I did a serious listening yesterday night. Sound very promising even with stock SMPS. Especially DSD playback, the whole place is filled with music. RBCD details also impressive, some flac I played previously using MYTEK / TEAC / Geek Pulse X was not be able to produce resolution that D1 does. Soundstage is phenomenon!

Now it's time to source a LPS. By looking at this, seems like the operating power consumption is low?

http://www.luminmusic.com/specification.html

If S1/A1 only consume 20W, that would imply D1 will be similar. Means my old LPS25VA can be used ! Confirming with Lumin now :-)

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Re: Lumin Audiophile Network Player
« Reply #213 on: July 25, 2015, 10:21 »
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Thanks for using LUMIN!
The D1 power supply is rated for around 50W (12V, 4.16A). Actual power consumption is around 20W.
Thanks!

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Re: Lumin Audiophile Network Player
« Reply #214 on: July 25, 2015, 10:25 »
It is better to stick to 12v4a LPS.


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Re: Lumin Audiophile Network Player
« Reply #215 on: July 25, 2015, 12:02 »
P = IV;
20W = I * 12VDC;
I = 1.66667A


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Re: Lumin Audiophile Network Player
« Reply #216 on: July 25, 2015, 12:17 »
Nice to know another model of LPSU as alternative for D1 users for those who don't want to spend more than $200.


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Re: Lumin Audiophile Network Player
« Reply #217 on: September 03, 2015, 11:57 »
Another good and detail review for Lumin D1. Cheers!  :)
http://6moons.com/audioreviews2/lumin2/1.html
Anusz D8>Ansuz Mainz>Lumin Streamer> Hybrid Pre-Pow> Focal 1027be..

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Re: Lumin Audiophile Network Player
« Reply #218 on: September 03, 2015, 14:41 »
Good to know D1 users are increasing.....
when weaker Euro happen, may consider LampizatOr Level 4 or 5, keeping D1 too.
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Re: Lumin Audiophile Network Player
« Reply #219 on: September 09, 2015, 09:18 »
Recently acquired a iFi iDAC2 to compliment my Lumin D1 for movie playback as Lumin D1 cannot work as a streamer for movie audio track & allow HDMI to output video to TV.

I did a brief comparison of the two, Lumin D1 has much better focused vocal, instruments separation, and micro details in every aspect than the iDAC2. iDAC2 in contrast, it's good on its own being a USB powered DAC.

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Re: Lumin Audiophile Network Player
« Reply #220 on: September 24, 2015, 17:30 »
https://www.facebook.com/luminmusic/posts/596655143805525:0

NEW! LUMIN M1



Today, we are pleased to announce the release of a new LUMIN model. LUMIN M1 is our first audiophile network music player to feature an integrated amplifier.

Due to our initial limited-quantity production run, M1 is currently on sale in Hong Kong only. Please contact your dealer for further sales details (full list below).

Look out for a Worldwide launch announcement soon.
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LUMIN M1 Features:

With LUMIN M1, our aim was clear – take all the award-winning sonic characteristics that the LUMIN music players are renowned for and surprise people with just how amazing an integrated system can sound.

18 months of continual development has lead to our uniquely efficient design including an oversized switching power supply and a fully-digital signal path all the way to the speaker outputs.

Outperforming larger and more expensive separates, LUMIN M1 shouldn't be dismissed as a second system. With 60W of amplifying power it can drive room-filling speakers and has the same musical heart as every other LUMIN music player.
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LUMIN M1 Specification:

The same wide range of format support (including DSD64 2.8MHz), LUMIN iPad App control and Qobuz and Tidal integration as our award-winning A1/T1/D1 models.

In-app volume control

Class-D power amplification retains digital signal path right to the speaker outputs

Physical:
Stereo 4 mm banana binding posts
Speaker load: >= 4 Ohm
Rated power output (per channel): 60W @ 8 Ohm Speaker, 100W @ 4 Ohm Speaker

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Re: Lumin Audiophile Network Player
« Reply #221 on: September 24, 2015, 19:18 »
It is surprising that they are using a SMPS and Class-D amplification. No option for an upgrade using an external PS as well.  I wonder what they bench marked their amp section against.

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Re: Lumin Audiophile Network Player
« Reply #222 on: September 24, 2015, 19:35 »
It is surprising that they are using a SMPS and Class-D amplification. No option for an upgrade using an external PS as well.  I wonder what they bench marked their amp section against.

Smps supply is much smaller and lighter. Linn is using smps for all its product as well.

With a build in amp, it's harder to upgrade the psu too. Unless lumin play the Naim game where only the digital section psu is upgraded. However, if a product is below a certain price, then upgrading using a external psu may not be economical.

Lastly, I had not heard any digital source with a decent digital volume control. Digital volume control can only bring the sound to a certain level.

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Re: Lumin Audiophile Network Player
« Reply #223 on: September 24, 2015, 21:46 »
That's probably why they went for 60W output at 8 ohm.  Understand that Lumin does not recommend attenuation by more than 30% when using their digital volume control.  A 60W output, depending on speaker sensitivity, could be used at full or near-full volume.

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Re: Lumin Audiophile Network Player
« Reply #224 on: September 24, 2015, 23:20 »
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Lastly, I had not heard any digital source with a decent digital volume control. Digital volume control can only bring the sound to a certain level.

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