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Title: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: tane0019 on June 02, 2011, 17:38
Hi,

From all the posting, seem not so much discussion & interest about KEF speakers.

Therefore start this thread for current & potential owner(s) to share info like what amp, source(s) and cables are being use to run your speaker(s).
Of course if possible to include helpful tips & tricks for the current & potential owner(s) as well.

http://www.kef.com

Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: tane0019 on June 02, 2011, 18:01
 ;D Let me start the ball rolling  ;D

Used to run KEF KHT3005SE with Onkyo 608 for 5.1 setup in my living room of about 12 fts by 12 fts.
Didn't quite like the bass (not solid enough).  Got myself a Rythmik F12SE sub.
Didn't quite like my old BR player (not detail enough for HT & music).  Got myself a Oppo BDP93.

But there is still lacking something - the soundstage was not that "wide" & the music is not that "full".
Went out to listen to tradition bookshelve & floorstander speaker.  Found out that what I'm looking for can only be coming out from floorstanding speakers.
But there are so many makes/models to choose from + not all are that easy to drive (at least from an AV amp).

Finally landed myself with Kef Q700 & the Q600C thinking of using the Kef 3005 egg speakers for the 7.1 setup.
Was also considering then to get the Q500 i.s.o. Q700 because of my relative small listening space.  But lucky decided on the slightly bigger Q700 which to me sound better & suprising not boomy in my living room.

Recently, sold my Onkyo608 (the 2nd hand mkt for this amp is quite good because of the high demand) & get myself a Onkyo3008.
The 3008 together with the Q700 - the SQ move up by another step.
Am now quite happy with my setup (at least for now) - until the next upgrade ........ maybe an intergraded amp with HT bypass + a DAC ??
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: Doggie Howser on June 02, 2011, 18:09
My friend got the iQ9 to replace his front Eggs and upgraded the Center to the Q600C. Damn good speakers. Also coaxial in design like Thiels.
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: tane0019 on June 03, 2011, 17:42
Some reviews of the Kef speakers to share.
Although the Q700 didn't get good review from "What HiFi" :'(, but who care ..... I still like the SQ from my current setup  ;D

http://hifireviews.posterous.com/tag/kef

http://www.whathifi.com/search/apachesolr_search/?filters=tid%3A368%20type%3Ahcmproduct%20tid%3A880&solrsort=created%20desc

There are really many good reviews on the Kef 3005 Egg Sat. & Snail Sub 5.1 system  ;D :o ;D
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: lstdennis on June 07, 2011, 20:04
I had just upgraded my Wharfedale 9.1 diamond last month. Got the Q300 instead + Q200C due to size constraint of my 3m x 4m bedroom. Also switched my AVR from Denon 2309 to 4311. Sticking with Velodyne CHT-12Q sub and Wharf 9.SR for surrounds. Happy with the SQ so far from this setup.

Considering to switch the surrounds to some KEF speakers later but not sure if there will be any major differences.
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: Ultradaddy on June 22, 2011, 15:49
Have anyone use the KEF HTF7003 Soundbar?? Looking for soundbar solution as it match well with Flat Panel LCD/LED TV.
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: Quest on June 22, 2011, 20:47
Heard the KEF 201/2 at the shop.. sounded pretty decent but no idea of the price.
Actually pretty curious about the Blade but probably never going to hear it in Singapore.
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: tane0019 on July 12, 2011, 11:34
Now I'm officially 9.2 since last weekend   ;D ;D
Yet to calibrate the system - but think will do it this weekend.

A DIY power amp (2x250W into 8 ohms - class D).
KEF 3005SE minus the center SAT for the surround + 1 sub.
1 pair of Emotiva UAC 6.2 ceiling speaker for the extra surround (actually the SQ is quite good, surprisingly).

Front view :-
(http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l511/tane0019/DIY%20CLASS%20D%20AMP/P7100096.jpg)(http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l511/tane0019/DIY%20CLASS%20D%20AMP/P7100097.jpg)

Back view :-
(http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l511/tane0019/DIY%20CLASS%20D%20AMP/P7100100.jpg)(http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l511/tane0019/DIY%20CLASS%20D%20AMP/P7100098.jpg)
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: JT on July 12, 2011, 14:56
Im using KEF eggs but my subwoofer psw2000 spoiled. Whats the recommended sub for these speakers?

I plan to get B&W PV1 but really ex.

Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: tane0019 on July 12, 2011, 15:44
Im using KEF eggs but my subwoofer psw2000 spoiled. Whats the recommended sub for these speakers?

I plan to get B&W PV1 but really ex.

I'm using Rythmik F12SE - local new set cost more than 1.5K (but the bass is deep, clean & tight :) )
Think that there is one selling as 2nd hand on this forum.

or

can try Hsu Research VTF 10' or 12' sub (but have to buy on-line).

If you want a more nicer + less boxy/smaller sub but with a good tight bass - then maybe have to go to KEC to get MiniVee range (got 8' & 10', I think).

Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: Waddle on July 12, 2011, 15:47
I'm loving my 3005se set up with a pioneer amp and an Oppo BDP

My first foray into home theatre so am naturally very happy!

Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: tane0019 on September 28, 2011, 23:46
NEW KEF - R Series.  Between XQ & References range.
Still no detail info yet, but can read general info at the web : http://www.kef.com/gb/newrelease/rseries

(http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l511/tane0019/untitled-2-1.jpg)

From the web:-

Featuring many of KEF’s latest innovations in premium hi-fi and home theatre loudspeaker technology, the all-new R Series makes genuine audiophile standards of entertainment more affordable than ever before. Stunningly fluent new Uni-Q driver arrays combine with potent new bass drivers and many ingenious refinements to create a rich, spacious sound image of such accuracy that it approaches the benchmark standards of KEF’s legendary Reference Series.

The new Uni-Q MF/HF driver array is a masterpiece. Midrange response is amazingly fast and clean, thanks to a braced magnesium/aluminium alloy cone, with KEF’s Z-flex surround smoothing the transition to the front panel and a sturdy die-cast aluminium chassis that prevents resonance being transferred to the cabinet. At the acoustic centre of the midrange cone is the sophisticated vented tweeter that endows KEF Blade with such startlingly pure HF response. With a large neodymium magnet and a computer-optimised dome structure so stiff that it operates pistonically over its entire working range, the upper registers are articulated with flawless precision – and to capitalise on Uni-Q’s point source characteristics, KEF’s ‘tangerine’ waveguide helps to disperse the higher frequencies evenly across a wider angle to flood the room with an intricate and refreshingly natural soundfield. Operating together as a single, perfectly integrated voice, the array as a whole delivers a sweet, accurate sound of unprecedented clarity.

The new bass driver is equally impressive. The combination of a massive vented magnet assembly and a large, lightweight aluminium voice coil driving a light, stiff and strong hybrid cone assures clean, deep and uncompressed bass output with superb dynamics and power handling.

Inside the cabinets (in a choice of classic Piano Black and real wood veneer finishes in Rosewood or Walnut) every single component confirms KEF’s technology leadership. Computer-designed crossovers allow the level of each driver to be fine-tuned for a smoother, flatter response. Constrained layer damping panels prevent cabinet vibration from muddying the mid-range and bass – even the airflow through the reflex ports is managed using computational fluid dynamics to optimise acoustic integrity.

With nine timelessly handsome models including three assertive floorstanders, two bookshelf speakers, two fully-specified centre channels, dipole surrounds and a matching subwoofer, the all-new R Series represents a decisive step forward in the enjoyment of music or film. By incorporating the high end technologies of KEF Blade in a classically elegant format, it gives serious audiophiles phenomenally accurate reproduction that neither adds to nor subtracts from the original recording: refined, spacious and exquisitely detailed. For those whose appreciation of true audio excellence outstrips their bank balance, it’s the perfect buy.
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: drazic on October 15, 2011, 17:07
hi guys, just got my KEF 3005SE to pair with the Pioneer LX75.
Are the monoprice speaker cables good enough? Thinking of ordering their 12AWG OFC ones...
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: tane0019 on October 15, 2011, 23:09
hi guys, just got my KEF 3005SE to pair with the Pioneer LX75.
Are the monoprice speaker cables good enough? Thinking of ordering their 12AWG OFC ones...

I think I still have quite some amount left from the surround wiring earlier - but have to find where exactly I store them to :(
Another one for your refereces - try Blue Jeans Cable.  http://www.bluejeanscable.com/store/speaker/
IMO, should be good & cheap as well.
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: drazic on October 16, 2011, 16:42
any of you running this as 7.1? thinking of adding 2 more satelites..
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: tane0019 on October 16, 2011, 17:15
any of you running this as 7.1? thinking of adding 2 more satelites..

Rather than 2 more satelites, maybe can get 2 more bookshelve for the front L/R.
Maybe Q100 or the bigger Q300 ?

I've the Q700 + Q600C as the front 3 channels.
The 4 satellites use for the surround back & front.
2 x ceiling speakers as surround.

Now has the center satellite speaker storage somewhere.
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: deaf.eye on October 17, 2011, 21:47
Is the BLADE here already?  ???
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: malsound on October 18, 2011, 20:57
Congratulations on your Fifty Anniversary  :)

http://www.kef.com/thefifty/ (http://www.kef.com/thefifty/)

See whether you remember some of this speakers.  ;)

Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: ruzhyo on October 18, 2011, 23:25
Are the Classic Q any good for HT?

Any idea of local SG price?

I am thinking of replace my Q accoustics (1030 and 1010) with the KEF Classic Qs if $$$$ permits.

Not sure how they sound but I like the looks...

Gonna just power em of a Denon 3810.  Not sure powerful enough... 

Perhaps iQ90 for front, iQ70 side, iQ50 for rear and iQ60c for ctr with my SVS PC Ultra
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: tane0019 on October 18, 2011, 23:37
I think classic Q is slightly lower than the Q series (maybe about 10-20% down ??)
Q500 about 1.5K+
Q700 about 2.0K+
Q600C about 1.0K+
Q900 ??
Has to bargain hard + as a package with GP.

Personally, think KEF iQ & Q series is good for HT.
I really like the center speaker.

Go & try it out & let us know :)
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: drazic on October 20, 2011, 17:56
Any good KEF installer/tuner? Does GP Acoustic do KEF installation if you do not buy it from them?
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: tane0019 on February 21, 2012, 08:56
Latest Review by AVForums "KEF Q700 Surround Sound Speaker Package "
http://www.avforums.com/reviews/KEF-Q700-Surround-Sound-Speaker-Package_257/Review.html



Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: kenkim on May 30, 2012, 23:43
50th anniversary LS50 arriving GP.
listened to r100, not enuf bass for me.
then heard r300, bass issue settled (3way vs r100 2way)

reserved a piano black r300.
however, will wait for LS50 to make comparsion before commit.
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: Mikeyz on June 01, 2012, 01:34
Rather than 2 more satelites, maybe can get 2 more bookshelve for the front L/R.
Maybe Q100 or the bigger Q300 ?

I've the Q700 + Q600C as the front 3 channels.
The 4 satellites use for the surround back & front.
2 x ceiling speakers as surround.

Now has the center satellite speaker storage somewhere.

Since u got the Q700 & Q600C, a Q300 would definatly blend in nicely with it's bigger driver then Q100, love my Q300 very much cause of it's wide soundstage performance for a bookshelf.
Title: R series speakers
Post by: tunster on June 03, 2012, 10:06
Just went in to do an audition of the q500 & q700.

Q500 was really pleasant. Reproduced my andrea bocelli and santana discs beautifully.

Q700 was more of the same musically but provided a much warmer bass reproduction.

THEN the kind sales rep hooked up the R100...........

Musically it felt much more open and clearer to me, just that it wasnt much to shout about in the bass department (being a bookshelf speaker it was understandable).

THEN the same knid gentleman hooked up the R300........

OMG..........knocked the socks off me.....could not believe they are bookshelfs!! I thought the type of music i needed could only be reproduced by floor standers, which was why i went for the Q500 in the first place.

Got caught hook, line and sinker. Now after coming home to do some more research, i am going back to audition the R500 and R300 again before making my decision.

Anyone got the same experience?


Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: joeling on June 04, 2012, 00:21
Any amp recommendation to drive the LS50?
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: MrBob on June 19, 2012, 11:45
I think the KEF Qs are great for HT.  I have the iQ30s as FL and FR and the iQ2c for center channel.  I'm using the Mission MiSpheres for rears and they surprisingly sound fine.  Need a recommendation for the SW though, currently, using an earthquake (supernova mk iv 10), plenty of boom but somehow does not sound right. 
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: altis72 on June 19, 2012, 15:29
Audio Excellence Award 2012
Blade - Silver
R Series - Bronze
http://www.phileweb.com/aea/2012/english.html

Is the Blade available in Singapore?
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: station8000 on August 14, 2012, 23:16
Hi, anyone here have a slight idea of the price for R500 & R700? Which store offers the most competitive price? Many thanks
 
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: tane0019 on August 15, 2012, 09:18
GP Acoustics: 1 Coleman Street, #01-01A, The Adelphi, Singapore, Singapore, SG-179803.  Think this is the only Authorise Agent in SGP.

I think price wise should check with them directly.  But very roughly base on UK pricing, R500 should be less that S$3K & R700 should be less than S$4K.
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: kuryakin on August 15, 2012, 09:46
i thought GP acoustic (listed GP industries) is The KEF Owner, not authorised agent?

BTW anyone auditioned the LS50 yet?
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: station8000 on August 15, 2012, 10:06
Thanks Tane.....have you auditioned them yet? Any advise? Think of changing my 5.1 including sub...
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: station8000 on August 15, 2012, 10:08
LS50 certainly have excellent review for its sound quality despite it's size
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: tane0019 on August 15, 2012, 13:56
i thought GP acoustic (listed GP industries) is The KEF Owner, not authorised agent?

Checked, you are right - GP actually owned KEF & another speaker brand.
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: station8000 on September 06, 2012, 01:58
Anyone in for the R700? May ask for better discount if group purchase.....checked up Hivizone selling for KEF R700 - HK$19,300 (a pair) which is about S$3100
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: TEINsports on September 06, 2012, 09:48
Anyone in for the R700? May ask for better discount if group purchase.....checked up Hivizone selling for KEF R700 - HK$19,300 (a pair) which is about S$3100

Anyway, just to chip in for those interested in the lower range R-Series:

KEF R100 - HK$7,200 (a pair) - SGD1156
KEF R200c - HK$6,100 - SGD980
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: tane0019 on September 06, 2012, 11:30
Where you guys get the R pricing from Hivizone ?  Their web site didn't state .........
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: TEINsports on September 06, 2012, 12:17
Where you guys get the R pricing from Hivizone ?  Their web site didn't state .........

Email. Prices are not inclusive of shipping, gst and warranty of course.
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: station8000 on September 06, 2012, 12:56
i checked with them, Fedex whole set: R700, R400b, R200c and R100 HK2800
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: tane0019 on September 06, 2012, 16:09
i checked with them, Fedex whole set: R700, R400b, R200c and R100 HK2800

Pairing wise, should aim for LCR with R700 + R600C
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: station8000 on September 06, 2012, 17:01
Pairing wise, should aim for LCR with R700 + R600C
I agree.  .....but price is quite a gap. I guess I could save some on the centre and spend more on the mains. r700 instead of r500. :)
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: tane0019 on September 06, 2012, 22:34
Maybe Peter Siew can help to ship cheaper from HK to SGP ??
Smaller Center, HT experience not so good.
How much is the different ?
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: station8000 on September 07, 2012, 11:00
Have not checked the price with HIVIzone, but local dealer quoted about $600~$700 diff. By the way, who is Peter Siew and how do I contact him? Thanks. Hmm...I may consider a bigger one if their price is not too much higher....but then again spending $1500 ~ $1800 for for a centre speaker is quite a big sum. Tane, you've got a big centre speaker? does it make lots of diff? my current centre is sort of small....
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: tane0019 on September 07, 2012, 16:25
http://www.xtremeplace.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=114061.msg791483#msg791483
He can help save freight cost from Europe & US.  Don't know if he has lobang in HK/China or not.

In HT - Front 3 speaker output more than 50% of the sound.
Plus also to balance the front 3 sound effect.
But, didn't really compare the diff between the big vs small center.
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: Quest on September 07, 2012, 16:38
Dialogue + maybe 80% of the soundtrack comes from the center speaker.
Those will show the most differences.
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: jimi on September 07, 2012, 21:43
Dialogue + maybe 80% of the soundtrack comes from the center speaker.
Those will show the most differences.

But you still don't need one?! :)
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: instinct on September 17, 2012, 21:48
the kef ls50s are amazing, i find the soundstage much bigger than the r series, not sure which one i tried, its the one thats around the ls50 size. the imaging is good as well, very easy on placement. overall, the sound may not be the best in terms of detail, airiness, but it certainly is a joy to listen to, at least to me.
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: station8000 on September 18, 2012, 19:15
LS50 is extremely competent when used in a room setup for music enjoyment. Have you checked the local price?
 
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: Quest on September 19, 2012, 10:05
But you still don't need one?! :)
Different considerations than this topic.
We are comparing using an inferior center vs better center speaker.

If willing to dump the center totally and add better LR speakers to run 4.1.. that's a different story.
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: instinct on September 19, 2012, 18:29
the ls50s are 1.8k, pretty reasonable la
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: station8000 on September 20, 2012, 19:14
the ls50s are 1.8k, pretty reasonable la
From what I understand, local agent charging quite high for the KEF sets as compared to their Hong Kong counterparts......you should check it out if you have not commited.....
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: instinct on September 20, 2012, 21:42
i dont really know, but the online price is about the same as local price...
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: JT on September 21, 2012, 14:27
Any idea where is the service center for KEF subwoofers?

Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: station8000 on September 21, 2012, 20:08
Any idea where is the service center for KEF subwoofers?



You may like to check with Gold Peak Acoustic at Adelphi #01-01A as they are the KEF main distributor. Tel: 63387011
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: bigtree on September 28, 2012, 11:46
KEF LS50 won the EISA 2012-2013 European Loudspeaker award!

(http://www.review33.com/news/av/2012/201209281_1.jpg)
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: cstanxpl on November 10, 2012, 12:54
Waiting for the X300A to be available.

The Uni-Q design should be good for desktop use.

According to the youtube video, it should be US$799.

http://www.kef.com/uploads/files/en/x/download/x_information_en.pdf

http://www.youtube.com/v/ndHLZQmCpmY&feature=autoplay&list=PLB98C0024E3AB22AA&playnext=2&fs=1

http://www.youtube.com/v/nRnFvMTlgdY&fs=1
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: artemov on November 10, 2012, 13:47
Waiting for the X300A too. Thinking of using it for the desktop.

Besides GP, any shop sells KEF as well?
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: glide on November 10, 2012, 16:13
gp are the official dealers. any idea if the kef subs are any good?
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: cstanxpl on November 11, 2012, 00:57
It is mentioned in this thread, GP is the owner of KEF.

So they are the one selling them direct here.

Just hope the prices are lower though. ;D
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: artemov on November 11, 2012, 01:20
It is mentioned in this thread, GP is the owner of KEF.

So they are the one selling them direct here.

Just hope the prices are lower though. ;D

I hope so too :P

Is it here already?
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: cstanxpl on November 11, 2012, 07:08
I hope so too :P

Is it here already?

You mean the X300A?

No idea.  ???

No chance to check with GP.

In Shenzhen now.  ;D
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: Mikeyz on November 13, 2012, 10:14
Has anyone here tried to compare between R300 vs Q300??
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: DIYer Straits on November 13, 2012, 15:34
Q300 uses composite coax midrange while the R300 is a metal alloy. I would surmise that the latter will be more detailed and dynamic.
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: Doggie Howser on November 13, 2012, 16:54
R300 is also a trickled down Blade tech based speaker. Sounds like a bargain.

Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: cstanxpl on November 13, 2012, 20:19
Q300 uses composite coax midrange while the R300 is a metal alloy. I would surmise that the latter will be more detailed and dynamic.

The LS50 is the one using metal (magnesium/aluminium) alloy.

R series are using aluminium for their drivers.
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: artemov on November 13, 2012, 22:11
The LS50 is the one using metal (magnesium/aluminium) alloy.


Really really tempted by the LS50 as well.
Went down to GP today to ask about the X300A, but they're closed.
Boxes upon boxes of LS50 inside, but no chance to ask about the price.
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: cstanxpl on November 13, 2012, 22:32
Really really tempted by the LS50 as well.
Went down to GP today to ask about the X300A, but they're closed.
Boxes upon boxes of LS50 inside, but no chance to ask about the price.


The LS50 is S$1800 including GST.

Most of the shops should be closed during public holiday at Adelphi.
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: sq13z on November 14, 2012, 00:01
you should really audition the LS50, R300 is more laid back with more bass extension
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: UV88 on November 14, 2012, 03:30
LS50 already has gobs of bass(with weight), I had to put in the partial foam bungs supplied to tame the bass as I dont like that much bass in my music. Don't get the wrong impression, its bass isnt boomy, quite taut in fact, just that I prefer not to have bass standing out too much. Driven with Cayin A88T-MKII triode mode. Bedroom setup. If used in living area, dont need bungs and bass energy may be adequate.
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: cstanxpl on November 14, 2012, 09:14
Stereophile reviews the LS50 will "provide Class A sound for those with small rooms. Recommended. Highly."
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: cstanxpl on November 14, 2012, 09:18
LS50 already has gobs of bass(with weight), I had to put in the partial foam bungs supplied to tame the bass as I dont like that much bass in my music. Don't get the wrong impression, its bass isnt boomy, quite taut in fact, just that I prefer not to have bass standing out too much. Driven with Cayin A88T-MKII triode mode. Bedroom setup. If used in living area, dont need bungs and bass energy may be adequate.

Personally I think the LS50 should be better suited to a transitor amp then tube.

But if you like the sound through the A88T MK2, that is all that matters. :)

The bass weight still not enough for me though.
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: PhilTT on November 14, 2012, 10:27
Personally the bass is already very good for a bookshelf speakers.

I placed it on a Foundation designer 2 stand & it reinforce the bass even more.

Driving it with 2 135w mono & u can hear how much more juice it can put out.

LS50 is like LS3/5A. The more power u give,  the more juice it come out.

I prefer Solid state amp to drive it for sure.
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: cstanxpl on November 14, 2012, 12:24
The more power u give,  the more juice it come out.

Ahhhh...that could be the key! :)
Title: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: journey on November 15, 2012, 10:46
IMHO, R300 has less refined & transparent sound compared to LS50, there's a slight veil to the R300 sound if you compare directly to LS50. The LS50 also has noticeably better PRAT factor, it's easier to get involved in the music. YMMV
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: Evoke on November 15, 2012, 13:58
Does GP offers any discount for their speakers? After i see the reviews and pictures of LS50, now kanna poison. Anyone know the price for Q300 locally? Buying from HKG is really cheaper than sg after factoring in the freight?  :)
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: PhilTT on November 15, 2012, 14:04
Check on that. $100 plus difference. After factoring freighting, warranty & service, not worth the effort. Other countries are more expensive, like KEFdirect.

$1800 no discount even if you buy 2 pair at 1 go.


Does GP offers any discount for their speakers? After i see the reviews and pictures of LS50, now kanna poison. Anyone know the price for Q300 locally? Buying from HKG is really cheaper than sg after factoring in the freight?  :)
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: Evoke on November 15, 2012, 14:13
Thanks for the info bro. Like that I think better get from sg then. Hope can stretch up to the LS50 if no have to consider Q300. Anyone knows the price for Q300 btw?
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: cstanxpl on November 15, 2012, 14:14
Does GP offers any discount for their speakers? After i see the reviews and pictures of LS50, now kanna poison. Anyone know the price for Q300 locally? Buying from HKG is really cheaper than sg after factoring in the freight?  :)

Q300 about S$9xx. Before the R series was released, it was S$12xx or S$14xx.

If can stretch, get the R series (R100 is S$1600) instead of the Q.

Or the LS50.
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: artemov on November 15, 2012, 14:28

$1800 no discount even if you buy 2 pair at 1 go.

More than 2? An xtremeplace group buy? :P
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: matthewt on November 15, 2012, 14:47
custom-cable UK is having a 10% discount for the LS50. Plus shipping (minus 20% UK VAT) should be less than $1500, check it out if you are interested. (i am not related to the website, just sharing what seems like a good buy).
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: Evoke on November 15, 2012, 15:25
wow, that's a great find. Calculate total plus shipping and gst is SGD1498.
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: Evoke on November 15, 2012, 15:26
Q300 about S$9xx. Before the R series was released, it was S$12xx or S$14xx.

If can stretch, get the R series (R100 is S$1600) instead of the Q.

Or the LS50.

Thanks for info. The LS50 very chio.. Will decide between the Q300 and LS50.
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: PhilTT on November 15, 2012, 15:35
Brought 2 friend to listen to LS50. After 1 song, both place order together. No discount. :'(

For the difference of $300, I think its not worth the effort. Unless its like a few K difference, then I will go for it.

More than 2? An xtremeplace group buy? :P
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: cstanxpl on November 15, 2012, 15:44
custom-cable UK is having a 10% discount for the LS50. Plus shipping (minus 20% UK VAT) should be less than $1500, check it out if you are interested. (i am not related to the website, just sharing what seems like a good buy).

They only sell to UK customers according to Phil, a sales support at the website.

Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: tane0019 on November 15, 2012, 17:57
Personally, I think R300 look more handsome than the other 2  ;D
Also, R300 spec wise look better & it is a 3 way design.
Q300 = S$9XX & LS50 = S$1800, so how much is GP selling for R300 then  ???

(http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l511/tane0019/KEFBS.jpg)


This UK site pricing is R300=UK$999, Q300=UK$359 & LS50=UK$800  (should be inclusive of 17% VAT)
http://www.hifix.co.uk/kef
Taking X-rate of 2 & the 17% VAT discount to compensate for the freight to SGP, roughly work out to be about: R300=S$2K, Q300=S$718, LS50=S$1600.

Group buy via PS ?  ;D
http://www.xtremeplace.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=114061.msg789983#msg789983
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: cstanxpl on November 15, 2012, 18:07
IIRC VAT is now 20%?
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: tane0019 on November 15, 2012, 18:10
OIC, when I was studying there some 20+ years ago, was 17%  ;D
Well seem like everyone around the world are upping their taxes  >:(
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: sgr1 on November 15, 2012, 18:45
i am in if anyone wants to MO. Eyeing a pai of Q300.
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: artemov on November 15, 2012, 21:48
They only sell to UK customers according to Phil, a sales support at the website.

Strange, the website allows you to check out with the LS50 shipped to Singapore.
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: sq13z on November 15, 2012, 22:00
you still to factor in gst for the final cost.
I already got a pair but am waiting to buy 1 as centre speaker forHT and hope for someone to buy the 2nd unit.
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: wizardofoz on November 15, 2012, 22:11
My old C15/25 and SW200's still going strong at my friends house. 


I got them in early 90's  ???
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: artemov on November 15, 2012, 22:13
you still to factor in gst for the final cost.
I already got a pair but am waiting to buy 1 as centre speaker forHT and hope for someone to buy the 2nd unit.

Including GST it's about S$1500. So for S$300 extra you get warranty. Only you can decide if it's worth the risk.
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: cstanxpl on November 15, 2012, 22:25
Strange, the website allows you to check out with the LS50 shipped to Singapore.

They will most likely check before shipping out.

Like some website I ordered cables, it is stated that they do not ship outside of UK.

When I order, I can still check out.

But receive an email later that says sorry...blah...blah...blah...

Anyway, if really can that's good news for those willing to buy online.

Good luck! :)
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: artemov on November 16, 2012, 02:45
They will most likely check before shipping out.

Like some website I ordered cables, it is stated that they do not ship outside of UK.

When I order, I can still check out.

But receive an email later that says sorry...blah...blah...blah...

Anyway, if really can that's good news for those willing to buy online.

Good luck! :)

Just confirmed with them via email. No go unfortunately :(

Group buy at GP? :P
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: leyims on November 17, 2012, 10:02
I have Kef Crestar bookshelf. I have it for years and i do love the bass from this speaker. Could I improve the treble by replacing the tweeter with one use  by Kef other series or even use by other brand? I appreciate any advise on this. Thanks
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: coral on November 17, 2012, 14:15
can anyone tell me what's this tuning knob for ? its belong to the Model 105 series ll reference.

(http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh32/randuh123/12070033.jpg)
(http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh32/randuh123/12070026.jpg)
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: sgr1 on November 18, 2012, 12:58
Just confirmed with them via email. No go unfortunately :(

Group buy at GP? :P

GP?
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: artemov on November 18, 2012, 20:33
GP?

GP Acoustics? They own KEF?

No one interested to buy the LS50?

BTW, I had a listen to the B&W PM1 recently. Marvelous sound :)
The LS50 has been compared to the PM1. I hope it's that good.
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: sgr1 on November 18, 2012, 23:07
They do GB? I thought they don't do that.
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: cstanxpl on November 22, 2012, 15:00
When you buy a HT system consisting of eg Q200C, Q500 & Q100, GP does discount on the overall prices.

So, can try your luck in group buy.

As usual, it depends on how the negotitaion (say buy few sets of LS50 for HT etc) goes.

Good luck!  ;D
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: RonJ on November 22, 2012, 15:15
I have Kef Crestar bookshelf. I have it for years and i do love the bass from this speaker. Could I improve the treble by replacing the tweeter with one use  by Kef other series or even use by other brand? I appreciate any advise on this. Thanks

Check thr crossover... if there are electrolytics, may be u cud try and change them to film caps. There will be a difference!
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: cstanxpl on December 05, 2012, 21:37
Stereophile review of LS50

http://www.stereophile.com/content/kef-ls50-anniversary-model-loudspeaker
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: TEINsports on January 03, 2013, 22:50
Just to share, GP's prices for the r200c n ls50 are very competitive now as compared to online prices. Spent an hour or so on the ls50 and im pleasantly surprised of the bass output from these small speakers. Definitely a more worthy investment than the r100 which is only 200 off but only if the rose gold appeals to u.
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: altis72 on January 04, 2013, 00:39
How much is LS50 at GP? Are they also selling the speaker stands for LS50?
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: TEINsports on January 04, 2013, 08:21
IIRC, 1800. For stands, you can check with the friendly chaps, David/Kelvin at GP. For those who are interested in getting the LS50 as a single source for centre speaker duties, they 'may' be able to work something out.


KEF America has already extended the LS50s as a single speaker purchase
http://www.avsforum.com/t/724103/kef-owners-thread/5460#post_22595416
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: blue_starfish on January 04, 2013, 10:58
IMHO, the LS50 has one of the cleanest and most extended highs in a speaker at this price range. Not a hint of grain or harshness. The only compromise is the lack of very deep bass. 

The demo at GP, they do not anchor the speaker and is not run-in. At home, the bass goes deeper and the sound is better defined with better soundstage once the speaker is properly anchored to heavy stands.

Amazing performance at the price and great value. Not surprising since the speaker uses the same driver used on the Kef's highest model,  the Blade.
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: TEINsports on January 04, 2013, 16:45
IMHO, the LS50 has one of the cleanest and most extended highs in a speaker at this price range. Not a hint of grain or harshness. The only compromise is the lack of very deep bass. 

The demo at GP, they do not anchor the speaker and is not run-in. At home, the bass goes deeper and the sound is better defined with better soundstage once the speaker is properly anchored to heavy stands.

Amazing performance at the price and great value. Not surprising since the speaker uses the same driver used on the Kef's highest model,  the Blade.

True abt the demo. Kelvin has claimed abt 100hrs of run-in and they are placed on another pair of floorstanders which could very well serve as part of their marketing strategy, depending on how you see it. The price performance of the LS50 against the smaller R100 easily justifies for the difference. I wonder how it would stack up against the R300 though. Time permitting, I should be lugging my R200C to GP and hear how does it match with the LS for HT duties.

How long was your run-in period for the LS?
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: cstanxpl on January 04, 2013, 17:46
Amazing performance at the price and great value. Not surprising since the speaker uses the same driver used on the Kef's highest model,  the Blade.

The drivers are not the same actually. The blade driver has more ribs on the surface than the LS50. Size and material used different too.

Blade Uni-Q driver array:
MF: 125mm (5in.) Li-Mg-Al /LCP hybrid cone
HF: 25mm (1in.) Al dome

LS50 Uni-Q driver array:
HF: 25mm (1in.) vented
aluminium dome
LF/MF: 130mm (5.25in.)
magnesium/aluminium alloy
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: sq13z on January 04, 2013, 21:53
I am not sure how the R200C compares to the LS50, but I did pick up the 3rd LS50 as it is cheaper than the R200C and matches the L/R speakers.
It will be nice to do the comparison but I assume the R300 and R200C will go lower lower with the extra woofer and box size.
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: DIYer Straits on January 04, 2013, 22:12
From a chap name Jack Oclee Brown who posted in Diyaudio.com forum:

"The drivers from the Q series, R series and LS50 all share a common lineage. The Q were the first to be developed in around 2010 as a concerted effort to get some of the features of the Concept Blade drivers into affordable loudspeakers. Over the years following the launch of the current Q range we have refined and tweaked the drivers resulting in those used in the R and LS50 drivers.

A quick summary:

There are 5.25, 6.5 and 8inch Uni-Q driver in the Q range. This discussion is focused on the 5.25inch which is used on the Q100 and Q500.

The driver in the R100 is based on the Q100 driver but has a different cone (which you can identify the driver by from the font) and some tweaks to the tweeter and midrange magnet systems to reduce the distortion (addition of shorting rings and a copper cap).

The LS50 driver is a special edition of the R100 driver with a different voice coil spec (to give a slightly different bass response in the system). The surround is also different and gives a slightly tidier upper MF response. We slightly adjusted the geometry around the tweeter magnet OD, also to improve the MF response.

All the best, Jack."

http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/multi-way/218281-kef-ls50-4.html (http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/multi-way/218281-kef-ls50-4.html)

White paper on the LS50  http://www.kefamerica.com/july12/LS50%20White%20Paper.pdf  (http://www.kefamerica.com/july12/LS50%20White%20Paper.pdf)

I'm a fan.  ;D

Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: TEINsports on January 04, 2013, 23:49
I am not sure how the R200C compares to the LS50, but I did pick up the 3rd LS50 as it is cheaper than the R200C and matches the L/R speakers.
It will be nice to do the comparison but I assume the R300 and R200C will go lower lower with the extra woofer and box size.

I'm not actually comparing the r200c to the ls50 but rather on the tonal matching. No doubt, the dedicated centre would go lower than the ls50. I very much prefer the ls50 for fronts but one of the dilemma is the aesthetic matching.
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: AndrewC on January 05, 2013, 06:03
...
White paper on the LS50  http://www.kefamerica.com/july12/LS50%20White%20Paper.pdf  (http://www.kefamerica.com/july12/LS50%20White%20Paper.pdf)
...

I just briefly scanned this… Absolutely brilliant paper!!
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: icedbs on January 07, 2013, 00:52
Just bought a pair of LS50 few days ago.

Sounded amazing for the price. Unbelievable.

I simply pair it with a Marantz NR1403, nothing fancy.

Great speakers and a great price.

Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: ALTK on February 20, 2013, 18:06
Hi, any bros here owned Q700? I just auditioned the Q700 at GP and realized that they are using silver cable to connect their speakers. Silver cable suppose to give brighter sound but it doesn't sounds too bright during audition. Just wonder will they sound as good on copper cable?
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: tane0019 on February 20, 2013, 18:29
I'm using Q700  ;D  and using Copper wires for the speaker  8)  PLUS Ag for the interconnect.
Doesn't sound bright to me  ;)

MF A5.5 int amp + SqueezeBox Touch + Oppo105 as DAC.
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: cstanxpl on March 17, 2013, 11:29
KEF new E series for HT.

http://www.kef.com/html/en/showroom/home_theatre_speakers/ESeries/overview/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=2-hYq6wSA3E
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: cstanxpl on May 11, 2013, 22:20
KEF showroom shifted to #01-18 (near Anson Audio).

Smaller place overall.
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: cstanxpl on May 17, 2013, 09:13
KEF doing headphones

http://www.kef.com/html/en/showroom/mseries/m500/m500/index.html#.UZWDuMv2OUk

http://www.kef.com/html/en/showroom/mseries/m500/m200/index.html#.UZWDwsv2OUk

http://www.t3.com/reviews/kef-m500-review#review
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: Mikeyz on May 18, 2013, 22:25
has any bros here tested pairing the LS50 with tube amps?
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: cstanxpl on May 20, 2013, 08:12
Some reviews said that the LS50 match well with Class D amp.

You may want to try them out.
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: PhilTT on May 20, 2013, 10:15
No problem with tube. 40W upwards better. U will love the mids even more.

has any bros here tested pairing the LS50 with tube amps?
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: aomoon on June 13, 2013, 10:30
I'm running tube amp 38W with KT88 tubes with KEF LS50 ...no issue :) sound great
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: Mikeyz on June 13, 2013, 19:39
I'm running tube amp 38W with KT88 tubes with KEF LS50 ...no issue :) sound great
How do you find the bass for the LS50 using the kt88 tube amp? I'm thinking of upgrading to LS50 in coming future .
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: tane0019 on June 13, 2013, 20:24
Is LS50 better than R100 or R300 ?
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: montroy on July 16, 2013, 16:27
how is the kef r700 and r200c? is it too much to run these with denon 3312 avr? no sub at the moment but will consider to put in an amp before putting in a sub.
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: tane0019 on July 16, 2013, 16:36
R700 matching center should be R600C.
Else should match R500 with R200C.

Either one combo, always better to run via a 3 channels power amp to get the best potential out from the front 3 speakers.

Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: montroy on July 16, 2013, 18:03
pardon me but am i correct with the connection

avr->power amp->speakers for the centre and LR channels

avr->speakers for LR rear surrounds and sub
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: tane0019 on July 16, 2013, 19:22
pardon me but am i correct with the connection

avr->power amp->speakers for the centre and LR channels

avr->speakers for LR rear surrounds and sub

Ya.

Question: If you want to use for HT only, why not consider the cheaper Q700 + Q600C instead ?
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: poki on August 23, 2013, 11:30
any amp recommendation to pair with LS 50? not so expensive ones
thanks
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: blue_starfish on August 23, 2013, 12:33
any amp recommendation to pair with LS 50? not so expensive ones
thanks

The showroom uses Sugden, and I paired a pair with NAD (BEE range). Both make the LS50 sound very good.
IMHO, an amp on warm side of neutral matches it perfectly if your source is not top class. The speakers are very revealing at this price. And oh yes, it likes power to really swing.   
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: watchdog on August 23, 2013, 12:43
any amp recommendation to pair with LS 50? not so expensive ones
thanks


B&O ICEPower based amps. I prefer this over my tube amps (KT-88 push pull) with my LS50. And this is coming from a die-hard tube guy ! The stands in my view are also quite critical. I far preferred my Atacama SE24 over a Nexus 6.

Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: tane0019 on August 23, 2013, 12:55
Cheap cheap ICE power amp : http://www.ghentaudio.com/index.html

Had not try before but very temperting.
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: watchdog on August 23, 2013, 13:15
Stock modules. Nothing wrong but just be careful on the relatively low input impedance (8 kohm). You will need to stick to a solid state preamp, or tube preamp with lowish output impedance.

I tried my LS50 on two different ICEPower amps. The first is an ASP500 based monoblock with tube input buffer, the other is an 125ASX2 module with custom solid state input buffer. Both sound quite good, and I think the 125ASX2 is a good improvement over older modules - sweeter and more liquid.
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: tane0019 on August 23, 2013, 13:25
Think Ghentaudio latest design input buffer are at "RCA 100K & XLR 200K".

http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/vendors-bazaar/193289-fs-icepower-125asx2-module-24.html

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Arrival-GA-M500P-Mono-500W-Power-Amplifier-ICE-Power-inside-ghentaudio-/221270271536?pt=US_Home_Audio_Amplifiers_Preamps&hash=item3384bc6630
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: watchdog on August 23, 2013, 13:28
Think Ghentaudio latest design input buffer are at "RCA 100K & XLR 200K".

http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/vendors-bazaar/193289-fs-icepower-125asx2-module-24.html


I think it would be worthwhile paying extra for the input buffer. Prices are quite competitive.
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: hifiape on September 23, 2013, 00:11
Has any brother tried Ls50 playing with a 4ohm amp?
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: AndrewC on September 23, 2013, 00:28
Has any brother tried Ls50 playing with a 4ohm amp?

What's the power output on that 4-ohm amp?

FYI;
http://www.stereophile.com/content/kef-ls50-anniversary-model-loudspeaker-measurements (http://www.stereophile.com/content/kef-ls50-anniversary-model-loudspeaker-measurements)

Quote
Somewhat optimistically specified at 8 ohms, the LS50's impedance (fig.1, solid trace) drops to 4 ohms at 200Hz and to 5.4 ohms at the top of the audioband. The electrical phase angle is generally mild, but the combination of 5.3 ohms and –41° at 135Hz, a frequency where music often has high energy, will make the speaker work at its best with a good, 4 ohm–rated amplifier.
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: Doggie Howser on October 06, 2013, 21:22
BTW the LS50 is now a regular production speaker. It's no longer just a limited edition production. Just thought I'd correct an erroneous advertisement. :)

Still a great speaker.
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: PhilTT on October 06, 2013, 21:36
The new LS50 will no longer bare the 50th anniversary mark from what I know.
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: Doggie Howser on October 06, 2013, 22:14
The new LS50 will no longer bare the 50th anniversary mark from what I know.

Where was the logo?
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: snip3r on October 07, 2013, 00:17
KEF doing headphones

http://www.kef.com/html/en/showroom/mseries/m500/m500/index.html#.UZWDuMv2OUk

http://www.kef.com/html/en/showroom/mseries/m500/m200/index.html#.UZWDwsv2OUk

http://www.t3.com/reviews/kef-m500-review#review

very stylo mylo, who audition before? how is it with reference to closed portables.
pls don't compare to full size LOL
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: cstanxpl on October 07, 2013, 19:31
Where was the logo?


Heard it was never intended to be a limited run actually.

Just not sure why they keep saying is limited.

It is an anniversary model.

But cannot keep saying 50 years since now is 51/52 years already.

(http://www.whathifi.com/sites/whathifi.com/files/images/kef/KEF_LS50c.jpg)

(http://www.stereophile.com/images/1212kef.promo_.jpg)

The pictures in KEF website already remove these anniversary logo.

http://www.kef.com/html/en/showroom/flagship_hi-fi_series/LS50/Images_and_video/index.html
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: tane0019 on December 28, 2013, 18:56
Heard the KEF 201/2 at the shop.. sounded pretty decent but no idea of the price.
Actually pretty curious about the Blade but probably never going to hear it in Singapore.

Was just back from Adelphi.  GP has a pair of white Blade in their showroom.
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: deaf.eye on December 28, 2013, 21:00
Any BLADE owner here?
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: Doggie Howser on February 14, 2014, 12:09
Have a pair of LS50 on demo now. I originally planned to use my spare Bel Canto system to drive them but in order not to annoy the missus since these speakers are placed in her domain (the open living room), I've decided to try the old Denon AVR.

I had not realized how low the LS50 sensitivity was till I hooked it up. Needed to drive the speakers to relatively high levels on the amp to get it to the SPLs I'm used to. But if you crank the knob up, it really does open up beautifully.

(http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae132/doggiehowser/7FCEE7AE-7394-4B44-8CA5-9F6062A82242_zpspz5laf2p.jpg)
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Post by: Doggie Howser on February 14, 2014, 13:01
Wife's out today so I took the chance to hook up the spare Bel Canto REF500Ms to power the LS50s instead. Like watch, I find the third gen ICE modules to be superior.

I know the AVS guys will say I'm imagining it but there's a definite improvement. :) when I pushed the levels up on the AVR, it definitely felt like the sound was getting congested. With the Bel Cantos, the LS50 just keeps eating up all the added power I'm putting it. I find that even at the same SPL as before, the lack of congestion just makes the music much more listenable and causes less fatigue.

The imaging also feels improved and the soundstage height has improved. And as before, the bass control has improved tremendously.

(http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae132/doggiehowser/87AD8273-8A20-432E-B992-64E46BD5DBEA_zpsg4vblcno.jpg)
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: cstanxpl on May 16, 2014, 22:41
Blade Two / Baby Blade

http://www.kef.com/html/en/showroom/flagship_hi-fi_series/blade/fact_sheet/blade_group/BLADE_2/index.html

Reference

http://www.kef.com/html/en/showroom/hi-fi_series/THE_REFERENCE/overview/
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Post by: tane0019 on May 19, 2014, 16:25
An add-on to this.
Blade Two / Baby Blade
http://www.kef.com/html/en/showroom/flagship_hi-fi_series/blade/fact_sheet/blade_group/BLADE_2/index.html

Reference
http://www.kef.com/html/en/showroom/hi-fi_series/THE_REFERENCE/overview/

From : http://www.technologytell.com/hometech/106420/kef-updates-two-iconic-speaker-lines-munich-hi-fi-show/


(http://www.bigpicturebigsound.com/artman2/uploads/4/KEF-BladeTwo.jpg)
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Blade Two is based on KEF’s Uni-Q point source driver array, a 25 mm vented aluminum dome tweeter placed at the acoustic center of a 125mm midrange driver, providing what KEF calls direction-agnostic high- and midrange response that “floods the listening space evenly.” The speaker features two 6.5-inch bass drivers, as well. Aesthetics and drama are where this speaker shines, however, as you can see from the picture above. That interesting parabolic shape is also well constructed: Blade Two’s high-density polyurethane enclosure increases cabinet rigidity so that the decoupled speakers are not influenced by the cabinet’s shape. And that shape certainly does make a statement.

The most notable difference between Blade Two and the previous iteration is that it’s smaller in height and depth than the original Blade, but according to KEF, “its size retains the integrity of the iconic visual design and the acoustic prowess while making placement within smaller environments easier.” In short, these speaker are a better fit for smaller listening rooms than the original Blade.



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The NEW Reference features a front baffle of laminated aluminium and resin composite that was formed at extreme temps and pressure for rigidity, with the ultimate goal of acoustic damping.

There are five Reference designs: a three-way bookshelf speaker, two three-way floor standers, a three-way timbre-matched center channel, and the twin-driver subwoofer, which employs KEF’s ‘force-cancelling’ technology. This configuration allows both drive units to operate more effectively, giving noticeably greater definition to low frequency effects.

The Reference comes in Deep Piano Black, Luxury Gloss Rosewood, Satin American Walnut and the special editions are Blue Ice White and Copper Black Aluminium. These bad boys are available this month, prices below:

REFERENCE 1 Three-way bass reflex bookshelf – $7,500 /pair
REFERENCE 3 Three-way bass reflex floorstander — $13,000 /pair
REFERENCE 5 Three-way bass reflex floorstander — $18,000 /pair
REFERENCE Centre Three-way bass reflex centre channel — $7,500 /piece
REFERENCE Subwoofer – $5,500 /piece

So BOXY  >:( :( :-\
Also, the center so super Loooong.

Let see if the old references series will have reduction later part of the year when the new stock arrive  ;D 8)
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: malsound on August 01, 2014, 17:59
http://www.youtube.com/v/HBeDeu-j3ho&fs=1
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: extinguisher on August 04, 2014, 14:34
How much is a pair of Q100 selling now?
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: jackytah on August 05, 2014, 23:22
I prefer old kef speakers ,they are good...haha.
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: tane0019 on August 22, 2014, 14:26
http://www.youtube.com/v/vKGEznuVjIs&fs=1
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: korolev on August 24, 2014, 01:35
Hello master shifus :)

I was hoping to find out if the LS50 can be sufficiently powered by either:
Also, would anyone know where in Hong Kong might be a good place to get them?

Thank you very much!
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: cstanxpl on September 04, 2014, 08:20
R50 Dolby Atmos-enabled speakers

http://kef.com/html/en/showroom/hi-fi_series/r_series/fact_sheet/atmos/r50/index.html
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Post by: pcie on October 26, 2014, 22:29
LS50 in High Gloss Piano White

http://www.kef.com/html/en/showroom/flagship_hi-fi_series/LS50/overview/

An innovative concept inspired by the legendary LS3/5a, LS50 mini monitor speaker is designed to bring professional studio monitor concept into the home. in high gloss piano white now.

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Post by: Doggie Howser on October 26, 2014, 22:35
LS50 in High Gloss Piano White

http://www.kef.com/html/en/showroom/flagship_hi-fi_series/LS50/overview/

An innovative concept inspired by the legendary LS3/5a, LS50 mini monitor speaker is designed to bring professional studio monitor concept into the home. in high gloss piano white now.



I like the white. But I don't think I could live with the blue drivers. BLECH
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: cstanxpl on October 27, 2014, 09:50
I actually find the new finish LS50 blue drivers look cool.
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: ALTK on October 27, 2014, 22:17
I actually find the new finish LS50 blue drivers look cool.

+1  :D it's cool and match the blue led light on modern equipments.
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: snip3r on October 27, 2014, 23:01
Anyone running the LS50 with a 4w SET?
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: pcie on October 28, 2014, 08:16
How will white piano gloss finish with gold drivers look like...? Haha


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Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: cstanxpl on October 28, 2014, 11:06
Something like that lor...hehe

(http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h259/cs_tan/LS50whiterose_zps413e5ffc.jpg) (http://s66.photobucket.com/user/cs_tan/media/LS50whiterose_zps413e5ffc.jpg.html)
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: gteokh on November 01, 2014, 12:45
Hi guys, intend to get a single pcs of kef LS50 as centre speaker. Able to buy a brand new pair for around S$1500 in HKG. Agent set, not grey stock. No diff for us as warranty is local but speaker seldom spolt.

I'm looking for someone in the same situation to split with me. Thus u pay me s$750 for a single pcs of kef LS50. I getting it in black.

Pls contact me at 96849420 if keen
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: gteokh on November 01, 2014, 13:57
Hi guys, intend to get a single pcs of kef LS50 as centre speaker. Able to buy a brand new pair for around S$1500 in HKG. Agent set, not grey stock. No diff for us as warranty is local but speaker seldom spolt.

I'm looking for someone in the same situation to split with me. Thus u pay me s$750 for a single pcs of kef LS50. I getting it in black.

Pls contact me at 96849420 if keen


partner found. Thanks
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: malsound on November 06, 2014, 22:04
http://www.youtube.com/v/BJA50U0V5B0&fs=1http://www.youtube.com/v/WN6MQf3sdWo&fs=1
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: fumujik on November 30, 2014, 22:47
Hello,

Anyone here is looking for partner to get a single piece of LS50?
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: kelvinsin on January 31, 2015, 07:52
Does Q300 suitable to be the FR speakers for HT? Getting a cheaper used pair instead buy a brand new floorstand Q500 as bookshelf should enough for normal audience in HDB living room.
Title: Re: KEF Speakers - for Current & Potenial Owner
Post by: cstanxpl on January 31, 2015, 18:57
Does Q300 suitable to be the FR speakers for HT? Getting a cheaper used pair instead buy a brand new floorstand Q500 as bookshelf should enough for normal audience in HDB living room.

Yes, the Q300 can be used for HT and music.

KEF has a package with the Q300 as the main, surround and Q600C as centre.

http://www.whathifi.com/kef/q300-51/review
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: cstanxpl on February 03, 2015, 22:37
Reference 1

http://www.soundstagehifi.com/index.php/equipment-reviews/807-kef-reference-1-loudspeakers
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: cstanxpl on February 15, 2015, 00:05
LS50 review

http://audiofi.net/2013/04/kef-ls50-bigger-than-small/
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Soul108 on February 26, 2015, 18:13
Hi have anyone auditioned the Ls50 and compared it against the Q Acoustics concept 20 and 40?

I just had a quick session with the ls50 and the R300. Wanted to check out the r500 but apparently they said they don't bring that in... ???
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: chuan79 on February 28, 2015, 21:11
Guys, I think I got a blown LS50 woofer. Tweeter still works but woofer is not moving.
I only know Tai Cheong at SLT. Any other speaker doctor to recommend?
If the driver is beyond repair, where can I get a replacement driver?
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: pcie on March 01, 2015, 03:23

Guys, I think I got a blown LS50 woofer. Tweeter still works but woofer is not moving.
I only know Tai Cheong at SLT. Any other speaker doctor to recommend?
If the driver is beyond repair, where can I get a replacement driver?
why not get it as GP Acoustics.., assuming you bought it there...


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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: PhilTT on March 01, 2015, 09:50
Bring it to GP. My friend just got his repaired within 2 wks. Blast too loud.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: lchua6 on March 01, 2015, 10:03
I am thinking of getting LS50 as HT but heard a few cases of blown woofer... Does LS50 woofer blow easily?

I intend to play HT with LS50 as main without sub. If that's the case all low will be directed to LS50. Will it blow LS50? I do play loud.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Doggie Howser on March 01, 2015, 12:22
The LS50 does produce a decent amount of bass but with a few caveats.

You can't use it in a large room without subwoofers.

You need good stands so putting it on a bookshelf won't give it the best support.

You need good amplification. You are more likely to blow the speaker driver from not having enough power - causing clipping than too much. So go for external power amps rather than an AVR's puny internal amps.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: chuan79 on March 01, 2015, 12:23
Thanks for the advice bros. I didn't get my LS50 from GP, so I am not sure if they will entertain me.
I have sent an email to them and is awaiting their reply.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: cstanxpl on March 01, 2015, 12:42
Thanks for the advice bros. I didn't get my LS50 from GP, so I am not sure if they will entertain me.
I have sent an email to them and is awaiting their reply.

Even if you did not get your LS50 from GP, they should still be able to service your LS50 with a service and replacement drive unit fee.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: sq13z on March 01, 2015, 12:58
I am thinking of getting LS50 as HT but heard a few cases of blown woofer... Does LS50 woofer blow easily?

I intend to play HT with LS50 as main without sub. If that's the case all low will be directed to LS50. Will it blow LS50? I do play loud.

I have been using the LS50 for HT LCR for the past 2 years. No concerns so far. As Howser mentioned, you need good amp and stands.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: lchua6 on March 01, 2015, 14:54
I have been using the LS50 for HT LCR for the past 2 years. No concerns so far. As Howser mentioned, you need good amp and stands.

Are you using any subwoofer for your HT?
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: sq13z on March 01, 2015, 15:22
Are you using any subwoofer for your HT?

Yes, just added a kk808 this year for more low freq slam. It is definitely more engaging with a sub for HT.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: EC100 on March 01, 2015, 16:47
Yes, just added a kk808 this year for more low freq slam. It is definitely more engaging with a sub for HT.

at what freq are you crossing over between the sub and LR??
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: zorden2003 on June 26, 2015, 13:20
What is a good amp to pair with ls50? Music fidelity a5.5? Marantz pm8005?


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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: zorden2003 on June 26, 2015, 18:17
Or ARCAM FMJ A19


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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: tane0019 on June 26, 2015, 19:25
For me, I'll go with the MF cause higher power rating.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: francishuang on June 26, 2015, 19:37
Try finding a used jeff rowland continuum 500 for it.   :)
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Soul108 on July 09, 2015, 22:48
Hi Guys!

Am about to pull the trigger on the R300. Initially wanted the LS50 but after another round of auditioning, have decided to go for the R300 instead. Will be going for a 2.0 or 2.1 setup maybe get an SVS sub.

Any suggestions for amp? maybe with a HT bypass (just in case).. though I think its unlikely i would go 5.1.. but never say never! budget about 1k for the amp.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: francishuang on July 10, 2015, 06:35
U can ask kelvin to pair for u

Hi Guys!

Am about to pull the trigger on the R300. Initially wanted the LS50 but after another round of auditioning, have decided to go for the R300 instead. Will be going for a 2.0 or 2.1 setup maybe get an SVS sub.

Any suggestions for amp? maybe with a HT bypass (just in case).. though I think its unlikely i would go 5.1.. but never say never! budget about 1k for the amp.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: TEINsports on July 10, 2015, 09:04
Hi Guys!

Am about to pull the trigger on the R300. Initially wanted the LS50 but after another round of auditioning, have decided to go for the R300 instead. Will be going for a 2.0 or 2.1 setup maybe get an SVS sub.

Any suggestions for amp? maybe with a HT bypass (just in case).. though I think its unlikely i would go 5.1.. but never say never! budget about 1k for the amp.

Choices are quite limited for that budget. If you can stretch just abit more, maybe PM8005. During my search for my LS50, I have auditioned PM8005, MF M3Si, NAD, Naim 5si and my personal preference leans towards the Naim. After which, I got a Naim XS.

Any chance anyone is letting go of their glossy black R100 with stands?
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Soul108 on July 10, 2015, 10:06
U can ask kelvin to pair for u
Hi Francis you mean kelvin at KEF? David attended to me. Abit paiseh if I switch.. Maybe I try to ask his opinion also. Lol

Thanks!



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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Soul108 on July 10, 2015, 10:08


Choices are quite limited for that budget. If you can stretch just abit more, maybe PM8005. During my search for my LS50, I have auditioned PM8005, MF M3Si, NAD, Naim 5si and my personal preference leans towards the Naim. After which, I got a Naim XS.

Any chance anyone is letting go of their glossy black R100 with stands?

Yup. I read about the 8005 too. Maybe will check it out. What's the price of a naim xs? What we're you thoughts on the m3si

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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: TEINsports on July 10, 2015, 12:28
Didn't like the m3si as i find it too laid back to my liking. A new xs2 is abt 3.3k n 5si abt 1.9k iirc.

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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Soul108 on July 10, 2015, 15:33
Wah.. put of budget.. still need a woofer... like that must see the marantz already.

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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: zorden2003 on July 26, 2015, 07:23
Got myself a ls50. Enjoying it


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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: sq13z on July 26, 2015, 11:36
LS50 is nice and value for $ speaker. I am using Job 250 to drive but waiting / looking for an integrated amp to simplify the set up. What are amps are you using?
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: zorden2003 on July 26, 2015, 15:35
I am using marantz pm6100sa


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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: zorden2003 on July 26, 2015, 15:36
Job is coming out with an integrated amp. We should wait for ot


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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: zorden2003 on August 15, 2015, 20:10
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/15/5dd53096f51082f53690132a591f29a5.jpg)

My kef setup. Sorry for the untidiness.


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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Tiktokape on August 15, 2015, 20:34
Is that temporary for the speakers? I reckon that it will perform better if on speaker stands.


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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: zorden2003 on August 15, 2015, 20:43
Its a temporarily setup. I will procure a speaker stand soon. Any speaker stand to recommend.


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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Tiktokape on August 15, 2015, 20:57
You can consider Atacama HMS series. I'm using HMS 2.1. They are recommended by my friend and I'm thankful that I bought that.

It is really firm and stable due to 4 pillars. Without fills, it is pretty heavy.

http://www.atacama-audio.co.uk/c/speaker-stands_hms


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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: zorden2003 on August 16, 2015, 18:36
You can consider Atacama HMS series. I'm using HMS 2.1. They are recommended by my friend and I'm thankful that I bought that.

It is really firm and stable due to 4 pillars. Without fills, it is pretty heavy.

http://www.atacama-audio.co.uk/c/speaker-stands_hms

Thanks for the reply. I need a "tall" speaker stand. Its should be around 29-31 Inch as i listening to the music in my office chair.  Is it advisable to mitigate the height diff of a 27 inch speaker stand by ending some WOOD Block?  I am a noob in audio.


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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Tiktokape on August 16, 2015, 18:51
Go for the 60cm version, add spike base. Should be suffice. Can adjust your chair lower?


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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: zorden2003 on August 16, 2015, 20:13
60cm is only 24 inch. I can't lower my chair as most of the time I am doing my work.


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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: watchdog on August 18, 2015, 15:35
If any of you guys are looking for a single piece of the LS50 (e.g. For single channel duties), can you approach GP Acoustics directly ? I've left my contact details with them to look for someone to partner up with as they only sell the LS50 in pairs.


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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: zorden2003 on August 21, 2015, 22:54
(https://scontent-sin1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/11870836_953649428012164_4135092022184699693_n.jpg?oh=ad2ebfe98da5167aa60b6a0a9821d7b6&oe=567EE48E)

what stand are those
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: cstanxpl on October 14, 2015, 13:43
KEF Egg review

http://www.whathifi.com/kef/egg/review
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Carnage on October 14, 2015, 23:53
Has anyone listened to the Reference?
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: DJQ on October 15, 2015, 00:05
KEF Egg review

http://www.whathifi.com/kef/egg/review

looks nice. iszit in already?
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: sq13z on October 15, 2015, 01:12
Yep, only the ref 1. I am very impressed.
Nice looking too.
Has anyone listened to the Reference?
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Carnage on October 16, 2015, 01:07
Yep, only the ref 1. I am very impressed.
Nice looking too.

Do you think it's suitable for someone who has a listening range of less than 2.5m and operates without a sub?
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: sq13z on October 16, 2015, 10:48


Should not be a problem and it can play at both high and low volume with clarity. Bass is sufficient  (by my std) unless you are a heavy metal fan. Didn't read much but I read somewhere it starts to roll off at 40hz. That said, every room is different and you need a good amp to deliver its potential.
Do you think it's suitable for someone who has a listening range of less than 2.5m and operates without a sub?
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: blue_starfish on October 16, 2015, 11:25
Do you think it's suitable for someone who has a listening range of less than 2.5m and operates without a sub?

The UniQ driver being co-axial is more ideal for short distance listening than seperate tweeter/mid. Depending on room size and your type of music, you may or may not miss the lowest bass notes. When in doubt, err on side of too little bass as is easier to address than too much. I agree with bro that you need to feed the speakers with the best source and amps you can find. 

I used to be an owner of the older and bigger Reference series. Gave it up when I had to move to smaller room due to bass boom.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: francishuang on October 16, 2015, 13:15
The size of the rear port can be change for the new reference models, therefore u can 'tune' the bass output to ur room.not sure if it inculdes the whole reference range.
You may wana check with kelvin
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Carnage on October 17, 2015, 01:58
I'm using int amp from Simaudio, 100W per ch. Ya I read that they need good quality amps in order to drive it well.

Also heard the Reference stands with the standmounts cost almost the same as the Reference 3. So can't make up my mind which to get.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: oliverlim on October 22, 2015, 10:55
Any LS50 owners keen to have me over for a listen? I am thinking of getting a set..   ;)
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: cstanxpl on October 26, 2015, 21:33
Special edition for LS50

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qdfkyY7xbA
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Post by: Tiktokape on October 26, 2015, 22:05
Very nice colour way 


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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: skong121176 on October 26, 2015, 22:31
Wah so colorful and nice
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: zorden2003 on October 26, 2015, 22:58
What stand are those?


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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: zorden2003 on October 26, 2015, 22:58
Oliverlim. Let me find a good amp then I invite u to my place to listen to my ls50. Still reading on amps


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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: cstanxpl on November 02, 2015, 21:59
It's official

http://www.kef.com/html/en/showroom/flagship_hi-fi_series/LS50/Images_and_video/index.html

The graphite looks nice.

If the driver for the graphite is black even nicer...hehe

(http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h259/cs_tan/Ls50graphite_zpsxdvu46km.jpg) (http://s66.photobucket.com/user/cs_tan/media/Ls50graphite_zpsxdvu46km.jpg.html)
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: zorden2003 on November 09, 2015, 21:40
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/09/044ea9b0bdc828cf444ffef7cebbde9b.jpg) powering my ls50 with lm 518


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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Tiktokape on November 09, 2015, 21:44

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/09/044ea9b0bdc828cf444ffef7cebbde9b.jpg) powering my ls50 with lm 518


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you didn't went for job amp?


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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: zorden2003 on November 09, 2015, 23:38
Not. Never go for the integrated amp but I might get the job225 amp and try.


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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: zorden2003 on November 09, 2015, 23:51
Got a second hand lm518 to try out. Mr tiktokape do you happen to stay near serangoon or sengkang?


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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: malsound on November 22, 2015, 12:35
Now come in many color.

http://www.cnet.com/news/kef-adds-a-splash-of-color-to-its-highly-acclaimed-ls50-monitor-speaker/#ftag=rss.audiophiliac.ftag

Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: drac407 on November 23, 2015, 21:00
LS50 limited edition just arrived in Singapore

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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: DJQ on November 24, 2015, 13:28
what abt egg... iszit in too?
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: drac407 on November 27, 2015, 18:39
Egg not in yet
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Soul108 on November 28, 2015, 15:03
Hi guys!

Just paid for a pair of R700. Pictures next month when I shift in my new place which is under renovation now.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: malsound on November 28, 2015, 16:21
http://www.youtube.com/v/bgT9pwxNXDg&fs=1
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Carnage on November 29, 2015, 22:37
Spoke to David yesterday, the Eggs will only be in next year January.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: DIYer Straits on December 17, 2015, 15:42
Just paid for a pair of used R300s. It was an offer that I'd be stupid to refuse.
Now I have those, the Q100  coax drivers,  a pair of Ci200 QR (Edit) and some 205s.

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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Soul108 on December 18, 2015, 17:38
Dear fellow KEF bros,

Any recommendations on the type of cables (nothing too overly pricey.) TIA
Speakers - R700
Amp - Cambridge Audio CXA80
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: blue_starfish on December 18, 2015, 18:07
Dear fellow KEF bros,

Any recommendations on the type of cables (nothing too overly pricey.) TIA
Speakers - R700
Amp - Cambridge Audio CXA80

Check the range from Ecosse of Scotland. Works well with my British gear to give pleasing sound. Keep to the mono-crystal copper range and you should be able to find something in your budget that gives big bang for buck. 
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: desray on December 18, 2015, 22:59
Selling away KEF R 100. Anyone keen Pm me with your number to deal.

If you want to sell an item, pls post it in the sales forum. This is not the correct way to do it.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: desee on December 19, 2015, 12:07
The kef ls50 special edition same price as the standard version?
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: tane0019 on December 19, 2015, 17:29
Was at GP today.
Listen to the EGG Wireless via Bluetooth - not bad at all man - for such a small unit w/o sub.
Other input include USB and 3.5mm jack (I think).
(http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l511/tane0019/20151219_142044_zpsfq93h0wv.jpg)
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Soul108 on December 19, 2015, 23:41
Check the range from Ecosse of Scotland. Works well with my British gear to give pleasing sound. Keep to the mono-crystal copper range and you should be able to find something in your budget that gives big bang for buck.
Any idea where to get in SG and price?

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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: blue_starfish on December 20, 2015, 12:24
Any idea where to get in SG and price?

Alpha Audio at SLS and Adelphi. Price range from few hundreds for full set, to thousands, depending on level. See the level table appended below. Your budget for cables should be around 10% to 15% of your total system cost to be balanced.

http://www.ecossecables.co.uk/cable_synergy_table.html

Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: desee on December 25, 2015, 17:26
Just check the Nad d7050 able to drive the  kef ls50?


Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: tane0019 on January 08, 2016, 16:41
http://www.youtube.com/v/G65nmn3xkV4&fs=1
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Tiktokape on January 14, 2016, 23:07
Any Reference 1/3/5 users? Care to share the amp matched with them? will be good if you are using Reference center too


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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: tane0019 on January 14, 2016, 23:19
Any Reference 1/3/5 users? Care to share the amp matched with them? will be good if you are using Reference center too

You going for Reference now  ;D


Just pain pain one time & upgrade to this la.
Don't need to AB also can hear the different  ;D ;D ;D
(http://www.cepro.com/images/uploads/WilsonAudioSabrina.jpg)
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Tiktokape on January 14, 2016, 23:31

You going for Reference now  ;D


Just pain pain one time & upgrade to this la.
Don't need to AB also can hear the different  ;D ;D ;D
(http://www.cepro.com/images/uploads/WilsonAudioSabrina.jpg)
I accompanied my friend to check it out. Told you need backup plan right?

You...ahh... Sabrina is very nice, I heard Wilson Audio at my MD place while fixing his HT system.

I the white Sabrina
(http://i.nextmedia.com.au/Utils/ImageResizer.ashx?n=http%3A%2F%2Fi.nextmedia.com.au%2FNews%2FWilson_Audio_Sabrina_WebBot.jpg&c=0)


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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: tane0019 on January 14, 2016, 23:35
I accompanied my friend to check it out. Told you need backup plan right?

You...ahh... Sabrina is very nice, I heard Wilson Audio at my MD place while fixing his HT system.

I the white Sabrina

Think the Reference & PL II all around that $-range.
Might as well go for baby-Wilson.
Title: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Tiktokape on January 14, 2016, 23:36
Think the Reference & PL II all around that $-range.
Might as well go for baby-Wilson.
You got any idea on the pricing for Sabrina and the matching center?


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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: tane0019 on January 14, 2016, 23:39
You got any idea on the pricing for Sabrina and the matching center?

Should be using the Watch center, but have to wait for the next series cause current one not using the same tweeter yet (Silk dome like Sabrina).
(http://www.wilsonaudio.com/images/product-photos/watch-center-channel-006-lg.jpg)
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Tiktokape on January 14, 2016, 23:56
Ahhh... Not in a rush to change front 3 yet. Just keeping a lookout what are available options though the only consideration is a matching center.


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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: francishuang on January 15, 2016, 00:50
Ref 5 and sabrina sound quite different. Do not be fool by sabrina size, it can sound big and I feel its better than the sophia3.
The watch center with stand i think should be 2 to 3k off sabrina price. Its adjustable tweeter angle feature is very useful , it makes integration with the left and right so much more easier.The cst version should be out real soon
The ref5 has very good coheracy and it sound very clean. The kef coaxial house sound. Plus point, u can change the bass port to suit ur listening room. I have heard the ref5 with jeff rowland continuum 500 intergrated at GP and i really like the sound
Both sound very different tonality wise
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: tane0019 on February 19, 2016, 12:05
http://www.youtube.com/v/uRc-nPD7Zno&fs=1
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: AudioNirvana on February 20, 2016, 21:18
Just check the Nad d7050 able to drive the  kef ls50?
The LS50 is really quite hard to match. Although i hvnt tried w d7050, but IMHO to let the speakers really "sing", i tink they nd higher pwr n an amp tt is nt too bright.  FINALLY found a suitable match w Exposure 3010S2 (aft sm time.... ;D)
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: zorden2003 on February 20, 2016, 22:00
I matched my ls50 with lm518ia but change the stock tube to Telefunken Ecc83 NOS.  the result is fantastic.


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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: zorden2003 on February 20, 2016, 22:02
U should try job 225 or the new intergrated job


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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: fenger on March 02, 2016, 18:02
I want to get a pair of the limited edition LS50 with new colours. Where can I get them in Singapore? Also, could someone let me know the going price at the moment. Thanks!
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: francishuang on March 02, 2016, 18:13
Gp acoustic at adelphi
While stock lasts
1.8k iirc

I want to get a pair of the limited edition LS50 with new colours. Where can I get them in Singapore? Also, could someone let me know the going price at the moment. Thanks!
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: fenger on March 03, 2016, 00:40
Thank you!
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: AudioNirvana on March 03, 2016, 00:41
I want to get a pair of the limited edition LS50 with new colours. Where can I get them in Singapore? Also, could someone let me know the going price at the moment. Thanks!
Yes....I also get around this price (1.8k) at GP Acoustics on ground floor at Adelphi.   But some "pre-warning" about the LS50 1st..... ;D.....its reputation it has is true.....really quite hard to match.  The white ones do look cool..........I got the black ones prev, no choices last time  :(
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: davidtiew on March 08, 2016, 13:44
Hi guys! Just bought one pair of LS50 limited edition model,

Can anyone share with me what kind of amp i should have? Currently the speakers are been powered by a Denon 3806 AVR.

Appreciate all the guidance from you guys.

I do not mind buying 2nd hand, i have a budget of about 4-500 dollars to spend on this.

thanks
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Fatalethal on March 08, 2016, 16:35
Hi guys! Just bought one pair of LS50 limited edition model,

Can anyone share with me what kind of amp i should have? Currently the speakers are been powered by a Denon 3806 AVR.

Appreciate all the guidance from you guys.

I do not mind buying 2nd hand, i have a budget of about 4-500 dollars to spend on this.

thanks

slowly save up to get a good amp.

LS50 is a picky pair of speakers... and it requires good amp to drive to unleash its full potential.
else... any other amp would probably make the LS50 perform at its bare minimum.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: davidtiew on March 08, 2016, 16:41
slowly save up to get a good amp.

LS50 is a picky pair of speakers... and it requires good amp to drive to unleash its full potential.
else... any other amp would probably make the LS50 perform at its bare minimum.
Any range I should be looking at ?

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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: zorden2003 on March 08, 2016, 16:54

slowly save up to get a good amp.

LS50 is a picky pair of speakers... and it requires good amp to drive to unleash its full potential.
else... any other amp would probably make the LS50 perform at its bare minimum.

Very true. Very fussy speaker need a good amp and good positioning of speaker.


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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Tiktokape on March 08, 2016, 17:02
I don't think it is very fussy, it just requires good amplification to sing well. Decent amps will do the trick, ditto for other speaker brands, it will provide music to you. How good is it, subjective to each own. That is my impression of KEF.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: tane0019 on March 08, 2016, 17:47
What did GP used to demo the LS50 to you B4 you buy them ?
Think they are using NAD int/power amp or maybe even NAD AVR ?

IMHO, any average 100W into 8 ohms (double up at 4 ohms) amp should be able to do the job.


Any range I should be looking at ?
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Fatalethal on March 09, 2016, 08:55
Very true. Very fussy speaker need a good amp and good positioning of speaker.


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yeap, i second the part about good positioning. but it also require good room acoustics

I have a friend who owns a pair and was placed in his room.
there used to be a box or chair at a corner of the room.
the moment he removed it from the room, the sound became better.


fussy and picky speakers la.
and in terms of amp... will, iirc the one used at GP is the primare amp.
But you can consider Job Integrated too... i own it for about 1 month old.. and this beast is fantastic. price/performance is out of this world.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: blue_starfish on March 09, 2016, 10:14
What did GP used to demo the LS50 to you B4 you buy them ?
Think they are using NAD int/power amp or maybe even NAD AVR ?
IMHO, any average 100W into 8 ohms (double up at 4 ohms) amp should be able to do the job.

Sugden Masterclass integrated was used to demo. After buying, using a mid-range NAD integrated to drive. No complaints. Good amp matches with LS50 will be those with a refined extended treble and good drive which also means costly.

If budget is constrained, go for amps with a slighly recessed upper treble like NAD and Exposure. The LS50 treble will bite if amp is not refined enough.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: francishuang on March 09, 2016, 10:50
Personally, i like how the ls50 and kef ref range sound when pair with jeff rowland ice module class d
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Tiktokape on March 09, 2016, 10:52
Second on Jeff Rowland, it is very engaging when I heard it pairing with Ref 1/3.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: cstanxpl on March 09, 2016, 11:58
From the many forums, many users recommend Naim amp for the LS50.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: fumujik on March 09, 2016, 14:39
Hi fellow LS50 owners,

I've recently owned a new Bel Canto C5i and hooked up onto my LS50, noticed the combo doesn't sound as musical as compared to C5i paired with ALR Jordan Si. Anyone here has the C5i + LS50 combo that experienced otherwise? I listen to a couple of genres: jazz, instrumental, pop, classical.

Has anyone pairing LS50 with Bel Canto's REF150s or REF500s? How does it sound?

Appreciate your sharing here. Thanks.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: DIYer Straits on March 09, 2016, 19:04
Hi fellow LS50 owners,

I've recently owned a new Bel Canto C5i and hooked up onto my LS50, noticed the combo doesn't sound as musical as compared to C5i paired with ALR Jordan Si. Anyone here has the C5i + LS50 combo that experienced otherwise? I listen to a couple of genres: jazz, instrumental, pop, classical.

Has anyone pairing LS50 with Bel Canto's REF150s or REF500s? How does it sound?

Appreciate your sharing here. Thanks.

What do you mean by "musical"? Please elaborate. What are you using as a source?
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: cstanxpl on March 09, 2016, 19:31
Hi fellow LS50 owners,

I've recently owned a new Bel Canto C5i and hooked up onto my LS50, noticed the combo doesn't sound as musical as compared to C5i paired with ALR Jordan Si. Anyone here has the C5i + LS50 combo that experienced otherwise? I listen to a couple of genres: jazz, instrumental, pop, classical.

Has anyone pairing LS50 with Bel Canto's REF150s or REF500s? How does it sound?

Appreciate your sharing here. Thanks.

Look at page 10 of this thread.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: fumujik on March 10, 2016, 11:08
Hi cstanxpl,

Thanks for your info. Read it. :)

What do you mean by "musical"? Please elaborate. What are you using as a source?

Hi DIYer Straits,

Perhaps I used inappropriate term, what I mean "musical" is it doesn't sound pleasure to my listening experience. Or some people may term it as sound "digital", not as mellow or warm.

I'm using PC as my source for my everyday listening.   

Thanks.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: AudioNirvana on March 12, 2016, 22:50
Has anyone pairing LS50 with Bel Canto's REF150s or REF500s? How does it sound?

I previously have the BelCanto M300, and did tried it with the LS50.  Doesn't sound good to my ears IMHO........but your mileage may vary.  Also have the Ref1000 but did not tried it on the LS50 as was using it for something else.  The LS50 is one speaker I think it is best for you to try with the amp you intend to buy before you commit the $$.  But if you can make it sing, it sounds great.......esp for a bookshelf. 
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: fumujik on March 14, 2016, 11:55
I previously have the BelCanto M300, and did tried it with the LS50.  Doesn't sound good to my ears IMHO........but your mileage may vary.  Also have the Ref1000 but did not tried it on the LS50 as was using it for something else.  The LS50 is one speaker I think it is best for you to try with the amp you intend to buy before you commit the $$.  But if you can make it sing, it sounds great.......esp for a bookshelf. 

Hi AudioNirvana,

Thanks for sharing. I'm awaiting to try LS50 on REF500s and see if it is due to the power from C5i that doesn't make it sings "so well" to my ears. Personally, I'm very happy with LS50 performance, only it needs careful matching of the equipment and cables. I used to run it on Cambridge Audio 640A V2, it sounds good to me.

Cheers!
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: tane0019 on March 22, 2016, 13:17
Reference 5 is less than s$20k iirc. that's a big jump in my case. With that long center, yummy

For me, I would go for the Ref3+2C.  More than enough for me  ;D ;D ;D

(http://hk.kef.com/media/catalog/category/kef_the_reference_group_1.jpg)

Maybe this weekend see got time or not, go down to GP for a listen - if possible bring along my hypex ncore mono to see can drive them properly or not  ::) ::)
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Tiktokape on March 22, 2016, 14:56
For me, I would go for the Ref3+2C.  More than enough for me  ;D ;D ;D

Maybe this weekend see got time or not, go down to GP for a listen - if possible bring along my hypex ncore mono to see can drive them properly or not  ::) ::)
For my room condition, I will settle realistically with Ref 1 and Ref 2C. I will rather in the case of insufficient bass or not extensive than any of these too much  :) Though I know Ref 3 is very good after I heard it. Also, the 2 types of bass port allow flexibility in placement at one's home.

Aside, the "Uni-Q designs of 1” aluminum-dome tweeter nestled into the center of an ideally shaped 5” aluminum cone for the mid-range, a positioning that puts both drive units in the same acoustic space and allows for consistent dispersion from these drivers in all directions", just WOW me too much  ;D Very engaging sounding...

Yeah, you should bring them down for a listen.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: tane0019 on March 22, 2016, 15:22
(http://www.audioaffair.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/kef-the-reference-1.jpg)

Still like the wood color finishing.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Tiktokape on March 22, 2016, 15:27
You must see the real thing! Far better than from pictures. Okie, I'm sucker for white finishing but sadly Ref 1 does not, not even on custom list. Colourway is under WAF in my case


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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: tane0019 on March 22, 2016, 15:49
White with Blue - Boh Beh Chow

Black with Gold  ;D ;D ;D
(http://cdn.mothership.sg/wp-content/uploads/aws/mothershipfiles/Jonathan+Lim/16+Singlish+terms/Die+Cock+Stand.jpg)
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: tane0019 on March 22, 2016, 16:17
A big changes on the inside & outside of the old vs the new references series.
(quite different from the other UK brand  ;D)
http://www.youtube.com/v/r8CsdDjpVww&fs=1

http://www.youtube.com/v/S5LwttPZPhs&fs=1 http://www.youtube.com/v/XOq0ZKRzi8I&fs=1
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: tane0019 on March 22, 2016, 16:51
http://www.soundstagehifi.com/index.php/equipment-reviews/807-kef-reference-1-loudspeakers

WoW, this review say it mid range & up super Tua Kong.
Quote
I could tell that while the Reference 1 and Performa3 F206 were cut from the same sonic cloth, the KEF could do some things in clearly superior ways. For example, even though the F206 displayed top-drawer clarity and definition throughout the audioband, particularly in the midrange (nothing short of amazing for the price, really), the Ref 1 sounded slightly cleaner, and was capable of even greater resolution overall -- so high that I’d be comfortable pitting the Reference 1 against any speaker of any price or size. Magico’s S5 ($29,400), Polymer Audio Research’s MKS ($42,000/pair), and Sonus Faber’s Olympica III ($13,500/pair), all of which I’ve reviewed in the last year or so, all went deeper in the bass, but revealed no more detail in recordings from the midbass up than did the Reference 1.

No wonder you stream after listening to them  ;D ;D ;D ;D


For my room condition, I will settle realistically with Ref 1 and Ref 2C. I will rather in the case of insufficient bass or not extensive than any of these too much  :) Though I know Ref 3 is very good after I heard it. Also, the 2 types of bass port allow flexibility in placement at one's home.

Aside, the "Uni-Q designs of 1” aluminum-dome tweeter nestled into the center of an ideally shaped 5” aluminum cone for the mid-range, a positioning that puts both drive units in the same acoustic space and allows for consistent dispersion from these drivers in all directions", just WOW me too much  ;D Very engaging sounding...

Yeah, you should bring them down for a listen.

Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Tiktokape on March 22, 2016, 16:56

http://www.soundstagehifi.com/index.php/equipment-reviews/807-kef-reference-1-loudspeakers

WoW, this review say it mid range & up super Tua Kong.
No wonder you stream after listening to them  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Yeah, it managed to wet my ears very well. Ref 1 is very good in my opinion, I just need to swap out GX100 for it. Got to wait... My little boy is the terror now..


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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: tane0019 on March 22, 2016, 17:03
How much GP offer u for Ref1 ?
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: kimurastanley on March 24, 2016, 21:35
Any user of R300? Would appreciate on the user review

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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: tane0019 on March 26, 2016, 21:34
Sweet & open  ;D ;D ;D  Only $$ not enough  :-\ :-\

(http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l511/tane0019/20160326_151010_zpszdfvum74.jpg)
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: CASH on March 26, 2016, 23:05
using Ansuz power cables?
according to wat i can see in pic.
great details in sound darkness, right?
 ;)
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: tane0019 on March 26, 2016, 23:27
using Ansuz power cables?
according to wat i can see in pic.
great details in sound darkness, right?
 ;)
Didn't really check wat they using. 
But you're right about clear mid/high + openness SQ  ;D
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: francishuang on March 27, 2016, 00:18
Using nordost stuff
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Tiktokape on May 12, 2016, 17:36
http://www.whathifi.com/news/kef-teams-linn-to-adopt-exakt-technology
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Doggie Howser on May 12, 2016, 17:44
For those DIY guys you can buy the same exact front panel of the Reference 5 and 3 as part of their in wall speaker range.

In wall Reference 5 equivalent is about 1/6-1/7th price of the boxed Reference 5. Remember you need to buy two. It is sold singly.

Just add your own enclosure and voila. reference 5!
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: DIYer Straits on May 20, 2016, 11:56
For those DIY guys you can buy the same exact front panel of the Reference 5 and 3 as part of their in wall speaker range.

In wall Reference 5 equivalent is about 1/6-1/7th price of the boxed Reference 5. Remember you need to buy two. It is sold singly.

Just add your own enclosure and voila. reference 5!

I did exactly that with a pair of Thiel Powerplane 1.2. Modded the crossover a bit (it had a bass roll off), put it in a ported box (calculated Fb of 50Hz) and Voila! A SCS4 clone. ;D
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Doggie Howser on May 20, 2016, 13:47
But the price differential between an SCS4 and PowerPoint is a lot closer isn't it?
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: DIYer Straits on May 21, 2016, 01:01
Yup, so don't buy new. ;D
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Soul108 on May 24, 2016, 23:56
Hi guys.. after getting the R700 and driving it with the cambridge CXA80.. and thinking of getting a low budget avr for a center speaker. Considering the Q200C.. coz I realized without center like can't catch the dialogue that well ... thoughts guys?

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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: AudioNirvana on May 25, 2016, 02:06
Hi there.....as long as it is a matching center from KEF, it should provide better synergy with your R700 fronts for HT purposes.  Might I also suggest that you consider the CambAud 851 series to better drive your R700.  They will certainly have better power to drive your fronts.  My experience with the 800 series is that they are quite musical and have good clarity, only thing is that they r a bit on the bright side and may not match to bright speakers.  Just my two cents.  Cheers. 
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: tane0019 on May 25, 2016, 10:00
For R700, the match center should be the R600C instead of R200C.

R700:-
Uni-Q driver array: HF: 25mm (1in.) vented aluminium dome + MF: 125mm (5in.) aluminium
Bass units:LF: 2 x 165mm (6.5in.) aluminium

R600C:-
Uni-Q driver array: HF: 25mm (1in.) vented aluminium dome + MF: 125mm (5in.) aluminium
Bass units: LF: 2 x 165mm (6.5in.) aluminium

R200C:-
Uni-Q driver array: HF: 25mm (1in.) vented aluminium dome + MF: 125mm (5in.) aluminium
Bass units: LF: 2 x 130mm (5.25in.) aluminium
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Tiktokape on May 25, 2016, 10:13
Second that with Tane0019 on the suggestion of R600C. The bass units in R600C will be able keep up with the pace of R700. Also, the mid bass output from front three speakers will be even. Thats my experience with same bass drivers for front three speakers.


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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Soul108 on May 25, 2016, 12:30
Hi there.....as long as it is a matching center from KEF, it should provide better synergy with your R700 fronts for HT purposes.  Might I also suggest that you consider the CambAud 851 series to better drive your R700.  They will certainly have better power to drive your fronts.  My experience with the 800 series is that they are quite musical and have good clarity, only thing is that they r a bit on the bright side and may not match to bright speakers.  Just my two cents.  Cheers.
Thanks AudioNirvana, I just got the setup so I doubt I will change the amp anytime soon.

However, I wanted something less bright hence I gave the LS50 a miss and settled for the r700 instead.

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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Soul108 on May 25, 2016, 12:31
For R700, the match center should be the R600C instead of R200C.

R700:-
Uni-Q driver array: HF: 25mm (1in.) vented aluminium dome + MF: 125mm (5in.) aluminium
Bass units:LF: 2 x 165mm (6.5in.) aluminium

R600C:-
Uni-Q driver array: HF: 25mm (1in.) vented aluminium dome + MF: 125mm (5in.) aluminium
Bass units: LF: 2 x 165mm (6.5in.) aluminium

R200C:-
Uni-Q driver array: HF: 25mm (1in.) vented aluminium dome + MF: 125mm (5in.) aluminium
Bass units: LF: 2 x 130mm (5.25in.) aluminium
Tane0019. Definitely. However I just want casual HT and the lack of a centre seems challenging for dialogue. Therefore I wanted to explore a centre rather then no centre at all.



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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Soul108 on May 25, 2016, 12:33
Second that with Tane0019 on the suggestion of R600C. The bass units in R600C will be able keep up with the pace of R700. Also, the mid bass output from front three speakers will be even. Thats my experience with same bass drivers for front three speakers.


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Hi tikotape, as per my reply to tane0019 it's more a case of casual HT. And a centre better than none ideology that I have that's why I'm considering the Q200C. The r600c is probably 3x to 4xthe price...

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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Tiktokape on June 16, 2016, 14:12
Sweet & open  ;D ;D ;D  Only $$ not enough  :-\ :-\

(http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l511/tane0019/20160326_151010_zpszdfvum74.jpg)
Just heard them during lunch. Sigh, reference 1 is oos  :'(
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: windapp on June 16, 2016, 17:06
Just heard them during lunch. Sigh, reference 1 is oos  :'(

Made the 'mistake'  :D of trying out the reference as part of my audition even though it is out of my budget. Wanted to hear how much better it is. now i keep thinking about how good it is, and the "copper-ish" colour matches my sofa as well!

better keep it as an aspirational target  :)

The LS50 were very impressive for their size and price, and they were not even placed on stands.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Tiktokape on June 16, 2016, 17:10
Made the 'mistake'  :D of trying out the reference as part of my audition even though it is out of my budget. Wanted to hear how much better it is. now i keep thinking about how good it is, and the "copper-ish" colour matches my sofa as well!

better keep it as an aspirational target  :)

The LS50 were very impressive for their size and price, and they were not even placed on stands.
If you have the budget for reference, go for it!  ;D Do note that it might need space between your placement in your thread on KEF Ref speakers. LS50 need juices...
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: francishuang on June 16, 2016, 17:32
Or wide bandwidth 'energetic' cables
 ;D

If you have the budget for reference, go for it!  ;D Do note that it might need space between your placement in your thread on KEF Ref speakers. LS50 need juices...
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Tiktokape on June 16, 2016, 19:19
Or wide bandwidth 'energetic' cables
 ;D
you hor... Inject more spices into the play


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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: francishuang on June 16, 2016, 19:29
Was there last nite, they were using some flea power integrated to drive the ref5

you hor... Inject more spices into the play


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Title: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Tiktokape on June 16, 2016, 19:34
Was there last nite, they were using some flea power integrated to drive the ref5
I heard that today! Not the best I heard though, Jeff Rowland is better... The engaging factor is just there for you...

They sold the demo Ref 1 yesterday night... Sigh...

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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: domho8 on June 16, 2016, 19:39

They sold the demo Ref 1 yesterday night... Sigh...

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Wa so fast ah :)
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Tiktokape on June 16, 2016, 19:41
Wa so fast ah :)
Good business for them I guess... The reference center is not cheap hor


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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: domho8 on June 16, 2016, 19:47
Good business for them I guess... The reference center is not cheap hor


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Nothing cheap in stinkapore dah!!! :)
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: windapp on June 16, 2016, 20:47
I heard that today! Not the best I heard though, Jeff Rowland is better... The engaging factor is just there for you...

They sold the demo Ref 1 yesterday night... Sigh...

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Out of curiosity, how much are demo sets usually discounted and how long are they used for? how do you know when one is for sale, do they usually sell it to their regulars first?
Title: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Tiktokape on June 16, 2016, 21:26
Out of curiosity, how much are demo sets usually discounted and how long are they used for? how do you know when one is for sale, do they usually sell it to their regulars first?
No discount on demo because it is the customer who can't wait for it from what I'm told. GP usually don't sell demo set, always ask customer to wait for shipment for brand new. Reference series just hit shore last year, unless there is revision of reference series, demo sets are unlikely to be cleared for now.


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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: tane0019 on June 23, 2016, 14:23
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
(https://scontent-sin1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13434931_845983608879951_1024431210534832862_n.jpg?oh=1d78251797c22ce03e1e6fe6af949ca9&oe=57F6A713)
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: econav on July 09, 2016, 00:29
was it Apr ?, we setup a pair of 808 with ref and driven by my musician and ............. deliver liao ;D
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: econav on July 09, 2016, 00:31
I heard that today! Not the best I heard though, Jeff Rowland is better... The engaging factor is just there for you...

They sold the demo Ref 1 yesterday night... Sigh...

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That Jef is reserve for Kelvin and should be keep in the box ,only sometime we open to listen...
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: davidtiew on August 27, 2016, 18:25
Hi guys can anyone recommend a amp for these kef ls50? I'm currently driving them using my denon 3806 avr. As I'm using them with a svs sub for movie watching. Budget around 1k and I don't mind used. Listen to all kind of music esp jazz.

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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: zorden2003 on August 28, 2016, 23:29
Hi guys can anyone recommend a amp for these kef ls50? I'm currently driving them using my denon 3806 avr. As I'm using them with a svs sub for movie watching. Budget around 1k and I don't mind used. Listen to all kind of music esp jazz.

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job 225
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Tiktokape on October 14, 2016, 22:06
https://youtu.be/4YEmNvkHkvs

http://www.digitaltrends.com/home-theater/kef-ls50-wireless-active-speaker-system/


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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: tane0019 on October 14, 2016, 22:08
WoW , another active spk.  Seem to be the trend now-a-day.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: francishuang on October 14, 2016, 22:14
Was at gp last tues, The reference 5 is sounding very gd at the showroom
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Soul108 on October 14, 2016, 22:21
Tane0019.. economies globally are not in good shape. It's a great for consumers.

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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Tiktokape on October 14, 2016, 22:42
Was at gp last tues, The reference 5 is sounding very gd at the showroom
Did you listen to Blade? I heard it yesterday


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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: francishuang on October 14, 2016, 22:45
Sorry, its the blade i listened to
 ;D

Did you listen to Blade? I heard it yesterday


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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Tiktokape on October 14, 2016, 23:44
Sorry, its the blade i listened to
 ;D
Haha such a pair handsome white horses how can be Reference 5


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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: francishuang on October 14, 2016, 23:51
Haha yea...
Wish there was more power on the tap though
The deep knocking bass iss not there yet
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: orcker on March 07, 2017, 21:39
Hi guys, any idea what a pair of LS50 Wireless cost and where's the best place in town for the best price? Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: cstanxpl on March 17, 2017, 09:10
The LS50 now has a dedicated stand made by Custom Design.

http://petertyson.co.uk/index.php/custom-design-ls50-speaker-stand.html
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Soul108 on March 18, 2017, 14:59
Hi guys what subs are you using for your setup? Am thinking whether to add a sub to my set up. I'm running
R700 LR
R200c
E3005 REARS

Cambridge Audio CXA80 int amp
Denon x3300w

Was thinking the REL.. prefer tight bass vs boom boom boom shake the room.

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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: tane0019 on March 18, 2017, 17:27
Sealed sub from Rythmik.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: ngsk on March 18, 2017, 20:17
+1 on Rythmik sealed sub,I'm running Rythmik sealed subs with KEF speakers.

Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Soul108 on March 18, 2017, 20:30
Thanks mates! F12? Where to audition and buy? What's the damage like?

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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: ngsk on March 18, 2017, 20:54
Can text Peng @econav,now can do home demo on Rythmik sub.You can find his contact 1 or 2 page back.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Soul108 on March 18, 2017, 21:07
Wah seh. So good ah home demo.  Thanks mate.. very excited.

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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: ngsk on March 18, 2017, 21:18
You're welcome,best is to get dual sub,if mainly for music get the f12 otherwise go for e15hp.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Soul108 on March 18, 2017, 21:37
You're welcome,best is to get dual sub,if mainly for music get the f12 otherwise go for e15hp.
Space constraint bro for 2 subs. :(
Yup aiming the F12.. wondering if there's a significant step for the F12SE.

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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: sigurros on March 18, 2017, 21:47
Space constraint bro for 2 subs. :(
Yup aiming the F12.. wondering if there's a significant step for the F12SE.

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Stacking? Takes up vertical space.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Soul108 on March 18, 2017, 21:49
Stacking? Takes up vertical space.
Never considered that before. Would it be significant incremental gains or marginal utility? I would expect that both would be in different locations to get optimal gains...

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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: ngsk on March 18, 2017, 21:56
F12se are glossy black and it's $200~$300 more otherwise they're the same.They're quite small 16 inches all round,go dual and forget about the 'what if'.I also bought 1 but within 3 weeks add 1 more,now I have 4 2 f12se and 2 e15hp with 3 pair of KEF speaker.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Soul108 on March 18, 2017, 22:50
F12se are glossy black and it's $200~$300 more otherwise they're the same.They're quite small 16 inches all round,go dual and forget about the 'what if'.I also bought 1 but within 3 weeks add 1 more,now I have 4 2 f12se and 2 e15hp with 3 pair of KEF speaker.
Thanks ngsk! Originally my intention is to hook up the sub to my CXA 80 so that I can use the sub when sub during when using stereo or 5.1... buying 2 subs will mean I only use the 2 subs during AVR and not during stereo listening.. then have to manually connect one to integrated amp when 2.0 and connect back to AVR during 5.2..

Will consider your suggestion. how is your system hooked up?

Edited: OK NOOB SPOTTED! Hahaha! Found out that you can bridge the subs to each other.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: ngsk on March 19, 2017, 08:13
Hi,as not to go off topic pm you.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: khlim_77 on March 27, 2017, 17:42
any new update on the Q seires prices

which setup will be much better sq for home theather

Q500 floorstand + Q600c
R100 + R200c ?

my living area is abt 14ft x 22ft

current setup is 5.1 and looking to replace my LCR first
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: tane0019 on March 27, 2017, 20:48
Should be Q700 + Q600C (same bass driverS size for LCR).

R100 + R200C seem ok (R200C is a 3 way design compare to R100 which is a 2 way).

Or just use 3 x LS50 :)
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: khlim_77 on March 27, 2017, 21:54
Should be Q700 + Q600C (same bass driverS size for LCR).

R100 + R200C seem ok (R200C is a 3 way design compare to R100 which is a 2 way).

Or just use 3 x LS50 :)



 

Does hk still much cheaper , any idea on the shipping cost like
Title: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Tiktokape on March 27, 2017, 22:00
Does hk still much cheaper , any idea on the shipping cost like
Don't bother to PI from HK. Buy locally is good. Same company whether you buy from HK or SG. USD went up but local price remains unchanged.

Your living room is huge in space but does that translates that you are using the SAME for HT?

For HT, I second Tane on LS50 for front three, if possible use it for rear as well. Your subwoofer will tackle the low octave.


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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Soul108 on March 27, 2017, 22:03
R300 and R200c would be a better pairing. As tane0019 said the R100 is a 2 way design

I would just buy in SG. Price difference not worth the hassle. Imagine no warranty and no one to call for advice.. etc..

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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Soul108 on March 27, 2017, 22:16
There's an ad for 2nd hand R700 used less than 2 years. You could probably get that a a good deal. But you need to be careful with getting it delivered.. It's heavy..

There's another ad for R100s and R200c so you get some savings there too..

It's on carousell btw.

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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: cstanxpl on May 18, 2017, 20:51
New Q series

http://international.kef.com/hi-fi-speakers/hi-fi-speaker-series/q-series
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: cstanxpl on June 17, 2017, 21:03
WHF? Q350 review

https://www.whathifi.com/kef/q350/review
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Squeaky on July 20, 2017, 15:52
Hi all,

I am new to this forum but have been reading this thread because I am interested to get the Ref 5s.  Have listened to a few other speakers but I like the Ref 5s even though is is a bit dated.  I am starting out so have a blank slate to find the right components.  What amps (integrated or separates) would people recommend?  Clearly GP would promote the NADs but I wonder if they are the best combination?  I have to concede that I do like the way the demo system with the NADs sound.

Some might wonder what configuration I am building.  The truth is I don't know yet.  Having read some other threads and literature, I am thinking of just buying the LR with the pre/amps first.  As for source, will probably buy an Oppo 205 when it becomes available. 

Any views on whether I need subs? Or a centre?

Comments most welcomed as I am a newbie to this.

TIA, Squeaky
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Tiktokape on July 20, 2017, 16:13
Hi all,

I am new to this forum but have been reading this thread because I am interested to get the Ref 5s.  Have listened to a few other speakers but I like the Ref 5s even though is is a bit dated.  I am starting out so have a blank slate to find the right components.  What amps (integrated or separates) would people recommend?  Clearly GP would promote the NADs but I wonder if they are the best combination?  I have to concede that I do like the way the demo system with the NADs sound.

Some might wonder what configuration I am building.  The truth is I don't know yet.  Having read some other threads and literature, I am thinking of just buying the LR with the pre/amps first.  As for source, will probably buy an Oppo 205 when it becomes available. 

Any views on whether I need subs? Or a centre?

Comments most welcomed as I am a newbie to this.

TIA, Squeaky
If you are referring to Reference 5 floorstanders, that is full range speakers for you. Unless you are looking at Reference 1, that is standmount speakers which if you compare against Reference 3 or Reference 5, it does not goes low in octave. Before deciding on any, your intention is meant for music or movie?

For music, you need a pair of speakers, preamp and amp combo or integrated amp plus source: CD Player, digital streamer, Turntable etc

For movie, you need to consider center speaker, rear speakers, ceiling speakers (atmos/dtsx) & subwoofer etc.

For NAD in GP, they are decent electronics to drive KEF speakers. For Reference 5, in my personal opinion, you need monoblock amp to drive them nicely depending on music genre you preferred. Reference 1/3/5 speakers are hungry in power current hence they do sing well if fed fully.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Squeaky on July 20, 2017, 22:55
I am considering the Reference 5s.

The NADs there were the M12 pre and M22 pwr, and a more entry level NAD integrated amp that seemed to work ok too. They also had a Myriad integrated amp that really showed off the speakers' ability to showcase vocals.

Any suggestions on monoblocks?

Thanks!
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: francishuang on July 20, 2017, 23:07
What do you listen to mostly?
 :)

I am considering the Reference 5s.

The NADs there were the M12 pre and M22 pwr, and a more entry level NAD integrated amp that seemed to work ok too. They also had a Myriad integrated amp that really showed off the speakers' ability to showcase vocals.

Any suggestions on monoblocks?

Thanks!
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Tiktokape on July 20, 2017, 23:17
I am considering the Reference 5s.

The NADs there were the M12 pre and M22 pwr, and a more entry level NAD integrated amp that seemed to work ok too. They also had a Myriad integrated amp that really showed off the speakers' ability to showcase vocals.

Any suggestions on monoblocks?

Thanks!
Depends on your budget! KEF usually goes quite well with Class D amp, since you heard them with NAD. You can consider Mola Mola pre & power (X Audio), Merrill Audio pre & power (Horizon Audio), Jeff Rowland pre & power (Coherence Audio), Devialet 440 pro (Hifi.com.sg).

I will let FH to chip in on class a/AB combo.


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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Squeaky on July 20, 2017, 23:18
What do you listen to mostly?
 :)

I would say more vocals, pop, and soft rock. Mandarin pop too. Children are teens so they like the more current genre.

Will watch some movies too as I just got a 65" tv!

Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Squeaky on July 20, 2017, 23:26
Depends on your budget! KEF usually goes quite well with Class D amp, since you heard them with NAD. You can consider Mola Mola pre & power (X Audio), Merrill Audio pre & power (Horizon Audio), Jeff Rowland pre & power (Coherence Audio), Devialet 440 pro (Hifi.com.sg).

I will let FH to chip in on class a/AB combo.


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The Jeff Rowland's and Devialets would cost more than the speakers! I think, if I remember correctly. Not heard of Mola Mola or Merrill but will check them out. How are they price wise?  Sound wise how would they compare against the NADs?

PS - the need to verify and type answers makes it a pain to post on this forum.

Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: whyeme on July 20, 2017, 23:36
There's a gathering storm brewing on the Red Dragon Audio S500 Stereo amp which uses the Pascal architecture. Anyone tried yet?
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Tiktokape on July 20, 2017, 23:42
The Jeff Rowland's and Devialets would cost more than the speakers! I think, if I remember correctly. Not heard of Mola Mola or Merrill but will check them out. How are they price wise?  Sound wise how would they compare against the NADs?

PS - the need to verify and type answers makes it a pain to post on this forum.
If you don't mind used set, Hifi.com.sg has Jeff Rowland pre & power combo. Ditto Devialet 200, a shade below $6k, get 2 for monoblock! They are definitely below your outlay vs Reference 5.

Sound wise, they are of similar character as what you heard in NAD but better resolution. If you watch movie, be mindful of the reference center - not cheap hor.


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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Tiktokape on July 20, 2017, 23:46
There's a gathering storm brewing on the Red Dragon Audio S500 Stereo amp which uses the Pascal architecture. Anyone tried yet?
Will be good if you can post the link here how much does it cost? Does it offer monoblock? I'm using Jeff Rowland M525, it uses Pascal as well.


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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Squeaky on July 20, 2017, 23:58
If you don't mind used set, Hifi.com.sg has Jeff Rowland pre & power combo. Ditto Devialet 200, a shade below $6k, get 2 for monoblock! They are definitely below your outlay vs Reference 5.

Sound wise, they are of similar character as what you heard in NAD but better resolution. If you watch movie, be mindful of the reference center - not cheap hor.


How durable are the JRs? Or the Devialets? I just worry that they don't last... sorry if this is a noob question. I did read that Bryston gives 20 year warranties!

How much is the Ref center? Can get the R series center instead? The need for a matching center may just be the excuse to get the wife to approve the expense!  Maybe the Reference 1s for surrounds too? LOL

On a more serious note, the first step is to get a stereo setup first.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: whyeme on July 21, 2017, 00:05
Will be good if you can post the link here how much does it cost? Does it offer monoblock? I'm using Jeff Rowland M525, it uses Pascal as well.

Dirt cheap compared to most amps recently mentioned in this thread  ;)

Yup can be mono-blocked  8)

https://www.reddragonaudio.com/collections/amplifiers/products/s500 (https://www.reddragonaudio.com/collections/amplifiers/products/s500)

http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews2/reddragon/1.html (http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews2/reddragon/1.html)

http://www.dagogo.com/red-dragon-s500-stereo-amplifier-review (http://www.dagogo.com/red-dragon-s500-stereo-amplifier-review)
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Tiktokape on July 21, 2017, 00:28
How durable are the JRs? Or the Devialets? I just worry that they don't last... sorry if this is a noob question. I did read that Bryston gives 20 year warranties!

How much is the Ref center? Can get the R series center instead? The need for a matching center may just be the excuse to get the wife to approve the expense!  Maybe the Reference 1s for surrounds too? LOL

On a more serious note, the first step is to get a stereo setup first.
What kind of durability do you seek? If it works and nothing happens, I guess all is good. I believe one who is careful and don't abuse the electronic, in general any is fine. Having long dated warranty does not spice me, for discussion sake, say there is 10 years but always give you problem, so keep or duck it?

There are two version of reference center, 3 or 5 drivers in which they are meant to pair with Reference (1 & 3) & 5 respectively. R series is fine but sonically and signature will gap quite substantially if you ask me. If you are loaded with headroom, why not having Reference 1 as surround?

Personally, I'm using Reference 1 for stereo playback, good enough in a living room setup. Point to note, Reference 1/3/5 requires adequate back space to breathe and sing well.


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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Tiktokape on July 21, 2017, 00:30
Dirt cheap compared to most amps recently mentioned in this thread  ;)

Yup can be mono-blocked  8)

https://www.reddragonaudio.com/collections/amplifiers/products/s500 (https://www.reddragonaudio.com/collections/amplifiers/products/s500)

http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews2/reddragon/1.html (http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews2/reddragon/1.html)

http://www.dagogo.com/red-dragon-s500-stereo-amplifier-review (http://www.dagogo.com/red-dragon-s500-stereo-amplifier-review)
Thanks for the link. Will go and read it for understanding.


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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Squeaky on July 21, 2017, 00:46
Dirt cheap compared to most amps recently mentioned in this thread  ;)

Yup can be mono-blocked  8)

https://www.reddragonaudio.com/collections/amplifiers/products/s500 (https://www.reddragonaudio.com/collections/amplifiers/products/s500)

http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews2/reddragon/1.html (http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews2/reddragon/1.html)

http://www.dagogo.com/red-dragon-s500-stereo-amplifier-review (http://www.dagogo.com/red-dragon-s500-stereo-amplifier-review)

Wow! Glowing reviews, particularly the second one.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Squeaky on July 21, 2017, 00:54
What kind of durability do you seek? If it works and nothing happens, I guess all is good. I believe one who is careful and don't abuse the electronic, in general any is fine. Having long dated warranty does not spice me, for discussion sake, say there is 10 years but always give you problem, so keep or duck it?

There are two version of reference center, 3 or 5 drivers in which they are meant to pair with Reference (1 & 3) & 5 respectively. R series is fine but sonically and signature will gap quite substantially if you ask me. If you are loaded with headroom, why not having Reference 1 as surround?

Personally, I'm using Reference 1 for stereo playback, good enough in a living room setup. Point to note, Reference 1/3/5 requires adequate back space to breathe and sing well.


On durability, I am just worried that it dies on me right after I get them. I do agree that long warranties mean nothing without reliability. Does hifi.com.sg give any sort of warranty, say, like for 3-6 months? 

How much back space are we talking about? My living room size is approx 5m by 4m.

Thanks
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Tiktokape on July 21, 2017, 08:36
On durability, I am just worried that it dies on me right after I get them. I do agree that long warranties mean nothing without reliability. Does hifi.com.sg give any sort of warranty, say, like for 3-6 months? 

How much back space are we talking about? My living room size is approx 5m by 4m.

Thanks
I doubt they can provide 3-6 months for Jeff Rowland, no issues with Devialet since they are the local agent, standard period of warranty applies. Total space does not matter, what is your listening space?

In my case, it is roughly 3m x 3m, my KEF Reference 1's gap between the placement and wall is ~0.5m, ideally it sounded better when given closed to 1m and I'm using long port in Reference 1. Do you know that Reference series speakers are provided with long & short port? Go and read on that for better understanding. Reference 5 have 2 ports located behind each speaker while Reference 1 has 1 port behind it.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: tane0019 on July 21, 2017, 13:33
Dirt cheap compared to most amps recently mentioned in this thread  ;)

Yup can be mono-blocked  8)

https://www.reddragonaudio.com/collections/amplifiers/products/s500 (https://www.reddragonaudio.com/collections/amplifiers/products/s500)

http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews2/reddragon/1.html (http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews2/reddragon/1.html)

http://www.dagogo.com/red-dragon-s500-stereo-amplifier-review (http://www.dagogo.com/red-dragon-s500-stereo-amplifier-review)
WOW this one look like JRDG amp except in a not so solid chassis.

Other potential cheaper class D built amp are:

https://www.nordacoustics.co.uk/products
Hypex Ncore Power amp.

www.d-sonic.net
Think this guy use Anaview module.

https://www.ghentaudio.com/amp/index.html
This guy use ICE module.

Maybe we should create another thread called "alternative cheaper version of Class D Power Amp"  ;D

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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: DJQ on July 21, 2017, 13:51
yeah... they give the big names a run for the $$$$.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Squeaky on July 22, 2017, 08:25
I doubt they can provide 3-6 months for Jeff Rowland, no issues with Devialet since they are the local agent, standard period of warranty applies. Total space does not matter, what is your listening space?

In my case, it is roughly 3m x 3m, my KEF Reference 1's gap between the placement and wall is ~0.5m, ideally it sounded better when given closed to 1m and I'm using long port in Reference 1. Do you know that Reference series speakers are provided with long & short port? Go and read on that for better understanding. Reference 5 have 2 ports located behind each speaker while Reference 1 has 1 port behind it.

Did some reading up and learned more about the ported design.  How do you define/measure the listening space? My TV is against the 5m wall and the sofa is against the opposite wall.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: cstanxpl on July 22, 2017, 09:54
WHF? LS50 wireless review

https://www.whathifi.com/kef/ls50-wireless/review
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Squeaky on July 22, 2017, 10:10
WHF? LS50 wireless review

https://www.whathifi.com/kef/ls50-wireless/review
I have read a fair few WHF? magazines and IMO, they appear to like British speakers...
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: sonofdbn on July 28, 2017, 15:41
WHF? LS50 wireless review

https://www.whathifi.com/kef/ls50-wireless/review

Another positive review for the KEF LS50 Wireless here: http://www.digitalaudioreview.net/2016/12/kef-ls50-wireless-review-dars-product-of-the-year-2016/

But is there any straightforward way to use them in a home theatre as the main speakers?
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: francishuang on July 28, 2017, 16:04
Kelvin of GP acoustic is gd in setting up speakers. He will do a gd job for u

Did some reading up and learned more about the ported design.  How do you define/measure the listening space? My TV is against the 5m wall and the sofa is against the opposite wall.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Soundblaster on August 01, 2017, 00:30
When and where can I get a good deal on the R700/R500?

Any help will be much appreciated!
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: tane0019 on August 10, 2017, 18:50
:o :o see how tall & curvy the spk is   ;D ;)

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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: CASH on August 10, 2017, 19:02
Superb Thighs!!!
Meaty!!!
 ;D
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: tane0019 on August 10, 2017, 19:15
You avatar is back  ;D ;)
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: CASH on August 10, 2017, 19:48
 ;D
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: CASH on August 10, 2017, 19:49
see planet feedback on how I got all my pictures back...
hehehe!!
no more Photobucket for me..
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Soundblaster on August 11, 2017, 20:06
When and where can I get a good deal on the R700/R500?

Any help will be much appreciated!

Anyone?
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: tane0019 on August 11, 2017, 22:24
Locally, there is only one official guy selling and that is GP Acoustics at Adelphi Ground Floor.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Tiktokape on August 11, 2017, 23:50
Further to add, I'm not sure what answer are you seeking on when and where? Do you mean by GSS? As mentioned by Tane, KEF is under sole distribution with head office in HK, ditto SG as well.

Typical discount will be 5-10% off the all range depending on the RRP except LS50 a fixed price, also I'm not familiar with the range you are interested hence I can't comment much.

Tibbits - Unless there is a change in dealership, revision in model, else it is rare to find further haircut on any range of model if that explain sufficiently in your case.


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Title: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Tiktokape on August 11, 2017, 23:53
Did some reading up and learned more about the ported design.  How do you define/measure the listening space? My TV is against the 5m wall and the sofa is against the opposite wall.
If in doubt, ask for home trial, you have to pay for it for 2 way transportation.

Kelvin of GP acoustic is gd in setting up speakers. He will do a gd job for u
Second that. Ask Kelvin nicely, he will drop by your place to setup at his best effort accordingly to your space. He setup my Reference 1 personally one month later after speakers are delivered.


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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: jacklim on August 12, 2017, 11:24
will he setup the Reference 3 for home trial?

damn  nice speaker and cost about S$15k

anybody heard it?
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Squeaky on August 12, 2017, 13:40
will he setup the Reference 3 for home trial?

damn  nice speaker and cost about S$15k

anybody heard it?

I assume you have heard the Ref 3s... where did you have the demo?

The Ref 1s and 5s are in the KEF showroom and I have heard them.  The Ref 5s in particular sound amazing! They are my current reference point (no pun intended) when auditioning speakers.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Soul108 on August 12, 2017, 16:04
will he setup the Reference 3 for home trial?

damn  nice speaker and cost about S$15k

anybody heard it?
Honestly you can go down to listen to the R700s and Reference 1 and 5s. If you have 15k to blow its a great pair of speakers. Personally i bought the R700s.

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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Tiktokape on August 12, 2017, 17:05
GPA have both Reference 1 & 5 for audition, Reference 3 is never available since it was launched. Always on indent basis, one has to decide by comparing between Reference 1 & 5 - the latter has better bass extension, however it requires more wattage to sing well. That said, the sound signature across the reference series are pretty in-line.


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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Squeaky on August 12, 2017, 20:05
GPA have both Reference 1 & 5 for audition, Reference 3 is never available since it was launched. Always on indent basis, one has to decide by comparing between Reference 1 & 5 - the latter has better bass extension, however it requires more wattage to sing well. That said, the sound signature across the reference series are pretty in-line.

Yes, the sound signature is similar so if you like the sound, it would be the same.

Between the 1 & 5, in addition to the bass extension, I find that the 5 has more details.  The separation of the instruments somehow is better.  Not sure why the extra bass cones helps with that, given the UniQ is the same.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Tiktokape on August 13, 2017, 00:24
It depends on what kind of details you seek - there is only one Uni-Q. Given fact that Reference 5 has additional 3 bass drivers - 2 on top and 1 below. It does cover a wider space be it horizontally & vertically hence you get more information out of it, less taxing versus 1 bass driver. Do note that Reference 5 has higher sensitivity than Reference 1, it is much easier to drive but it does not imply that it does need requires wattage per se.

In my system, which is skewed towards closer shade of neutrality, it does present details on the high side. Also, Reference 1 do sound very differently when driven loud enough - similar DNA applies to higher models. Try listening to them again at louder decibel for your genre of music and share further how does you feel about it.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Squeaky on August 13, 2017, 02:17
Anyone tried Bryston cube amps with KEF?
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: kim on August 13, 2017, 13:22
we have cheaper LS50 wireless than overseas and distributed by ban leong now?

http://list.qoo10.sg/item/KEF-WIRELESS-BLUETOOTH-STEREO-SPEAKER-LS50-WIRELESS/547243715

http://list.qoo10.sg/item/KEF-KEF-LS50-WIRELESS-BLUETOOTH-STEREO-SPEAKER-BLACK-TITANIUM-WHITE/526006708

http://www.lazada.sg/kef-wireless-bluetooth-stereo-speaker-ls50-wireless-48969351.html?ff=1
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: drzero on August 14, 2017, 11:57
we have cheaper LS50 wireless than overseas and distributed by ban leong now?

http://list.qoo10.sg/item/KEF-WIRELESS-BLUETOOTH-STEREO-SPEAKER-LS50-WIRELESS/547243715

http://list.qoo10.sg/item/KEF-KEF-LS50-WIRELESS-BLUETOOTH-STEREO-SPEAKER-BLACK-TITANIUM-WHITE/526006708

http://www.lazada.sg/kef-wireless-bluetooth-stereo-speaker-ls50-wireless-48969351.html?ff=1

are those parallel imports or legit? seems like the pricing goes up and down like a roller coaster
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: BlurRhino on August 14, 2017, 20:23
Sounds too good to be true.. esp the price differences are so significant when it's the same seller in qoo and Lazada.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Soul108 on August 14, 2017, 22:14
Support local. The peace of mind and on demand support is well worth the perceived savings

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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: shsh91 on August 23, 2017, 22:58
Hi all, i just spoke to one of the friendly bro (Tiktokape) that owned both Kef LS50 and Parasound Halo, currently I have both of them and i feel that my setup are not optimised.
Parasound halo was from my previous setup before i upgraded to Kef LS50.

I listen mostly to vocals and pop music.

Current setup: Metrum Musette > Parasound Halo > Kef LS50 (Using Isoacoustics stands on desktop, have at least 50 cm away from the wall)
Speakers are 1.5m apart and i am 2m away.
Feels that bass is lacking and need to crank up high volume.
I have heard the Kef LS50 with Bel canto amp and found the music abit too laid back for my taste.

Please recommend the below combination
DAC with Class D Preamp + Amp
or
DAC + Class D int amp
Budget: $5000 for BOTH

Thank you
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Juliano on August 23, 2017, 23:33
Before you invest in new equipment you might want to play with the positioning of your speakers first. The LS50 is a small bookshelf if you can afford 50cm from the wall it means that you probably have a sizeable room. Move the speakers closer to the wall to reinforce the bass and play around with different distances to achieve a balance between imaging and bass.
Title: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Tiktokape on August 23, 2017, 23:38
He is using them as desktop speakers, limitation is on the table itself. Unless he can shift that table out further to accommodate the placement. Further, my guessing is that he is listening to them on near-field.

What I have shared, in my experience to use Parasound Halo Integrated amp driving KEF LS50 - it lacks the control & grip factor. I felt LS50 will be controlled better with class d amp.

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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: zorden2003 on August 23, 2017, 23:40
Ls50 is best on a good speaker stand. I tried it on the desktop and the sound is rather flat.


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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: zorden2003 on August 23, 2017, 23:42
Ls50 is best on a good speaker stand. I tried it on the desktop and the sound is rather flat.


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This was my setup and the sound is flat.  Need some space from the wall and also a good speaker stand.

I am using job255 amp for both positioning.



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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: shsh91 on August 23, 2017, 23:42
Thanks Tiktokape, my listening position is 2m away from my speakers.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: whyeme on August 24, 2017, 00:10
my placement also cui...WAF no choice... :'(

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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: ngsk on August 24, 2017, 07:48
Hi shsh91,IMO to get what u want(more bass at lower vol)why don't consider selling the Parasound amp/LS50 n get the LS50 wireless as the FR for LS50 is 79hz-28khz +/- 3db u are no going to have much bass below 80hz unless u play,there's still lots of details from 30hz-80hz for music.FYI the wireless version FR is 50hz-28khz on normal mode big difference in bass respond plus have built in speaker eq to suit your speaker placement (desk/stand/wall/free space).I've listen both side by side on GP the wireless version is much better to my ear.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: shsh91 on August 24, 2017, 09:16
Hi ngsk, thanks for the suggestion. I did listen to the LS50 (without any settings), i preferred the passive Kef LS50.

I am currently looking at red dragon audio s500 and also a DAC/preamp or standalone DAC and preamp. As I do not not have experience with standalone preamp, do you guys have any recommendations?
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: gkt on August 24, 2017, 10:36
Hi,

I have actually driven the LS50 with the Densen DM20/30 combo with very good result. My ears, YMMV. Have not heard the Parasound nor the Red Dragon, so cannot comment.

Ideally the speakers are on good quality stands, much, much better sounstaging and focus.

To get more lower end I coupled this setup with the REL T5 sub.

If you are pursuing more lower bass I would lean towards a sub, after you have exhausted the speaker positioning option recommended by bro Juliano. It is tricky to set up but once achieved, you will enjoy the results.

My 2 cents worth.
Title: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: zorden2003 on August 24, 2017, 11:59
my placement also cui...WAF no choice... :'(

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4418/35924549114_f95fa3101a_z.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170824/6ed519de36a2d4d7b3ca5a062597b58f.jpg)

This setup definitely better although not 50cm away from the wall.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: ngsk on August 24, 2017, 12:48
Hi ngsk, thanks for the suggestion. I did listen to the LS50 (without any settings), i preferred the passive Kef LS50.

I am currently looking at red dragon audio s500 and also a DAC/preamp or standalone DAC and preamp. As I do not not have experience with standalone preamp, do you guys have any recommendations?
No problem bro as audio are very subjective everyone have their own like.I'm not using any standalone preamp or dac so no comment on that.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: ngunadi on August 24, 2017, 23:44
I am heavily considering KEF Q350 in future 3.1 setup. I have few questions:
1. What receiver should I use that supports network + spotify?
2. Should I use KEF Q-series centre speaker or can I use others? KEF centre speaker is so big and not cheap.
3. Any recommendation on subwoofer?

Budget is also a consideration.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: supabayes on August 25, 2017, 00:44
Hi all, i just spoke to one of the friendly bro (Tiktokape) that owned both Kef LS50 and Parasound Halo, currently I have both of them and i feel that my setup are not optimised.
Parasound halo was from my previous setup before i upgraded to Kef LS50.

I listen mostly to vocals and pop music.

Current setup: Metrum Musette > Parasound Halo > Kef LS50 (Using Isoacoustics stands on desktop, have at least 50 cm away from the wall)
Speakers are 1.5m apart and i am 2m away.
Feels that bass is lacking and need to crank up high volume.
I have heard the Kef LS50 with Bel canto amp and found the music abit too laid back for my taste.

Please recommend the below combination
DAC with Class D Preamp + Amp
or
DAC + Class D int amp
Budget: $5000 for BOTH

Thank you

understand that you looking for class D amp. personally i still like the sound from class A or AB amp. assuming you have space for the parasound already, try the Schiit Yggdrasil and Ragnarok. i had that setup with LS50 for close to a year and it is about as good as it gets for near field listening. used set will be within your 5k budget. stereophile review of ragnarok rave about the pairing with LS50.


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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Tiktokape on August 25, 2017, 08:06
To be honest, to find similar capabilities in class d amp for class a/ab amp - one has to spend a lot more, food for thought, how much is LS50 passive to start with?

I have heard Yggy before, the DAC lacks bite and for that to deal with pop - the PRaT is not there.

Shsh91 should hunt for a more neutral sounding DAC to bring the bite back imo.


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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: DJQ on August 25, 2017, 09:52
THE one way is to move away from Class D amps. Go for decent Class AB amps. i can't remember what AB amp the bros was using that i visited yrs back but their LS50 sure did not perform the way shsh91 mentioned.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: supabayes on August 25, 2017, 10:06
To be honest, to find similar capabilities in class d amp for class a/ab amp - one has to spend a lot more, food for thought, how much is LS50 passive to start with?

I have heard Yggy before, the DAC lacks bite and for that to deal with pop - the PRaT is not there.

Shsh91 should hunt for a more neutral sounding DAC to bring the bite back imo.


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not to defend the Yggy but PRaT factor depends a lot on downstream amp and speakers pairing. Ragnarok-LS50 pairing PRaT is as good as it gets based on online reviews and my own experience. For me, switching out the Yggy with Dave brings details/resolution to a different level but there are days when I felt that Yggy was more musical even though it is less detailed.

Keep in mind that both Yggy/Rag are designed by Schiit, the dac-amp synergy is hard to beat. If OP has not experienced it yet, I will encourage to try this Schiit combo given his budget.




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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Tiktokape on August 25, 2017, 10:29
not to defend the Yggy but PRaT factor depends a lot on downstream amp and speakers pairing. Ragnarok-LS50 pairing PRaT is as good as it gets based on online reviews and my own experience. For me, switching out the Yggy with Dave brings details/resolution to a different level but there are days when I felt that Yggy was more musical even though it is less detailed.

Keep in mind that both Yggy/Rag are designed by Schiit, the dac-amp synergy is hard to beat. If OP has not experienced it yet, I will encourage to try this Schiit combo given his budget.

I have not heard Yggy/Rag combo - perhaps shsh91 should give you a visit  ;D because I don't know if he can audition them locally? I don't think he should buy blind unless he heard it. Yggy is more forgiving compared to Dave, I will go with Dave anyday. Why I have mentioned re PRaT is my friends & I did compared Yggy & Dave on AB basis.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: supabayes on August 25, 2017, 11:12
I have not heard Yggy/Rag combo - perhaps shsh91 should give you a visit  ;D because I don't know if he can audition them locally? I don't think he should buy blind unless he heard it. Yggy is more forgiving compared to Dave, I will go with Dave anyday. Why I have mentioned re PRaT is my friends & I did compared Yggy & Dave on AB basis.

Too bad I no longer have the Yggy/Rag. sold after upgrading but not before living with both new and old dac-amp for extensive period of AB testing with the LS50. Yggy/Rag/LS50 is bang for the buck vs DAVE-PasslabsXa25 that I am currently using. I could probably live with yggy/rag/LS50 if music is my only pleasure. But easier said than done since i enjoy the thrill of checking out new things to upgrading.



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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: shsh91 on August 25, 2017, 11:32
Hi Supabayes and Tiktokape,

Thanks for your input.

Currently, I have 2 options to look at.

Mytek Brooklyn + Red Dragon S500 Stereo amp
Yggy/Rag

Need to sell off my current setup first!
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Tiktokape on August 25, 2017, 11:43
If you don't mind a sweeter sounding - an used Accuphase Integrated amp can be in your list - Class AB amp. It can be bumped up with internal phono card for your TT.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Squeaky on August 25, 2017, 12:12
Hi Supabayes and Tiktokape,

Thanks for your input.

Currently, I have 2 options to look at.

Mytek Brooklyn + Red Dragon S500 Stereo amp
Yggy/Rag

Need to sell off my current setup first!
Just a thought on the approach but not sure if it will work. I checked the Halo Int Amp specs and back panel pictures on its website - there is pre-out and it can also bypass the preamp. Maybe you can try demo power amps to try with the Dac and halo? Also possible to try new dacs only?
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: francishuang on August 25, 2017, 12:23
Buy a amp that is your type of sound, a sound that u will enjoy. The LS50 is not a very 'coloured' pair of speakers, so u may wana do the colouring on the amp, speaker stand part.  For source wise, also depend on ur preference, u want something with more resolution, more unforgiving to bad recordings. Or something more easy to listen to, more forgiving. 
But do really choose a amp which sound u like. The kef will show that sound
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Tiktokape on August 25, 2017, 14:29
I won't think LS50 is coloured but rather with a shade of sweet tonality. In fact, LS50 sounds quite differently in low and loud volume. I once owned Parasound Halo Integrated amp, ever tried it's preamp and hooked it externally to stereo amp & monoblock amps. Personally I felt it is a total waste of money solely for preamp purposes, might as well go for the Parasound preamp which is at mid high 1k range  :)

If budget is tight, get a DAC w/preamp function, add preamp later - eg: tube preamp if genre is heavily on vocal. If such setup flows nicely for one, can upgrade from LS50 to KEF Reference 1 straight forward without swapping out any!
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Squeaky on August 25, 2017, 22:30
I won't think LS50 is coloured but rather with a shade of sweet tonality. In fact, LS50 sounds quite differently in low and loud volume. I once owned Parasound Halo Integrated amp, ever tried it's preamp and hooked it externally to stereo amp & monoblock amps. Personally I felt it is a total waste of money solely for preamp purposes, might as well go for the Parasound preamp which is at mid high 1k range  :)

If budget is tight, get a DAC w/preamp function, add preamp later - eg: tube preamp if genre is heavily on vocal. If such setup flows nicely for one, can upgrade from LS50 to KEF Reference 1 straight forward without swapping out any!

He has the Halo integrated already, and its on sale in the for sale section!
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: CASH on August 25, 2017, 22:40
my view is the kef ls50 n monitor audio gx 100 have the same sound signature.
I have heard both..
but it's up to u to decide.
it's nice sounding, but not the best u can get for your money worth...
monitor audio is out to milk money from consumers nowadays.
kef.... I dunno...
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: cstanxpl on August 30, 2017, 19:24
I actually found the LS50 and GX100 to sound differently in the same source and amp system.

The LS50 has a warmer mid than the GX100.

Both driven by Marantz PM-KI Pearl Lite and Audiolab MDAC.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: tane0019 on September 07, 2017, 22:48
In this video, they discuss Jack's origins and the challenges of speaker design, as well as the genesis of the Reference 5, KEF's Uni-Q drive-unit.
He also talked a bit about Blade design differences vs the New Reference 5.

Interesting ...........

http://www.youtube.com/v/9Lij_9adOYE&fs=1
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Squeaky on September 08, 2017, 00:12
In this video, they discuss Jack's origins and the challenges of speaker design, as well as the genesis of the Reference 5, KEF's Uni-Q drive-unit.
He also talked a bit about Blade design differences vs the New Reference 5.

Interesting ...........

I actually listened to the entire conversation!  Wonder when the review will appear?
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Squeaky on September 11, 2017, 23:12
Think the ref 5 review is out in the Oct issue. If only I had a subscription!
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: jl255 on September 13, 2017, 21:10
Newbie here. I wldn't consider myself an audiophile, but wld like to seek some advice. If i have $3k budget for a system (speakers, amp, subs) for my hall (8m x 5m) mainly for purpose of music. What KEF speakers would you suggest? I'm looking for used ones. Tks.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: supabayes on September 13, 2017, 21:55
Top choice for me under $3k is KEF LS50 Wireless (I own one). Plenty of connectivity, 3D soundstage, bass is better than out of the LS50. The only shortcoming I can think off is that the built-in DAC is fixed, so no future upgrade path. However, the LS50 wireless is performance-price ratio should please a lot of people with $3k budget happy for a long time, at least for me.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: jl255 on September 13, 2017, 22:50
Top choice for me under $3k is KEF LS50 Wireless (I own one). Plenty of connectivity, 3D soundstage, bass is better than out of the LS50. The only shortcoming I can think off is that the built-in DAC is fixed, so no future upgrade path. However, the LS50 wireless is performance-price ratio should please a lot of people with $3k budget happy for a long time, at least for me.

Tks! Sorry don't understand the part "bass is better than out of the LS50".

I see several kef used speakers for sale like the Q7 and IQ90 floor speakers going for about $1k. I thought that with the size of my hall, floorstanders wld do better. Any thoughts?
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: supabayes on September 13, 2017, 23:38
i meant bass is better than the LS50 non wireless version which I also own and have driven with a few amps.

As far as your room size, the LS50wireless with the built in 200+30w amps should have no problem playing back quite loud and the bass not lacking unless you are a bass head. Go have a listen at GP to know what I mean on the bass and power.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Squeaky on September 21, 2017, 11:06
KEF Reference 5 reviewed and classified by Stereophile as Class A (Restricted Extreme LF).

Now available online:
https://www.stereophile.com/content/kef-reference-5-loudspeaker
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Fumio on September 29, 2017, 20:59
Hey Guys!

I just placed an order for the Q350 pair of speakers.  Do you guys have any suggestions on the stereo amp to go with it for music?

Now I have a denon x6300h and a Marantz PM6002.

Any amp that may complement Q350 better yet still under $1000?

Appreciate any suggestion.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: denon2311 on September 29, 2017, 21:11
How much you have paid for Q350? For amp below 1K go for cambridge audio CXA60
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Fumio on September 29, 2017, 21:41
pmed you the price.

Do you know which shop is willing to let us audition the CXA60 with your own speakers? :)

How much you have paid for Q350? For amp below 1K go for cambridge audio CXA60
.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: koljaho on September 29, 2017, 21:43
Keen to know the price too. Wonder how does it compare with R100.

Have you done any comparison?
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: CASH on September 29, 2017, 21:45
u can try ("Cash Shop of Horror's") located at
Pasir Ris St 21, BLK 236, S(510236)
but I only have a Cambridge Audio 740a..
hehehe!!!!
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: CASH on September 29, 2017, 21:47
can audition with your kef speakers!
hehehe!!!!
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Fumio on September 29, 2017, 22:05
Keen to know the price too. Wonder how does it compare with R100.

Have you done any comparison?


only placed an order. not really compared them because totally different class pricing. R100 pair cost $1600
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Fumio on September 29, 2017, 22:06
Thanks but too far. haha

u can try ("Cash Shop of Horror's") located at
Pasir Ris St 21, BLK 236, S(510236)
but I only have a Cambridge Audio 740a..
hehehe!!!!
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Squeaky on October 09, 2017, 15:49
can audition with your kef speakers!
hehehe!!!!

Let me think about bringing my pair of Reference 5 for the audition...
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: malsound on October 12, 2017, 19:33
http://www.youtube.com/v/_Oy46E6q4Qs&fs=1http://www.youtube.com/v/zoZj8vy2K1g&fs=1
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: wilflare on October 13, 2017, 18:02
finally bought my LS50W and joined the club as well.
love the sound coming from these - a mega upgrade from my AE AegoM (heh)
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: francishuang on October 14, 2017, 14:29
Nordost rep using the REF 1 for demo today at GP
(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k219/franzng82/IMG-20171013-WA0041_zpsvlc3y5yb.jpg)
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: 1AngMoh on October 15, 2017, 10:18
A fun afternoon at GP Acoustics.   Nordost’s product specialist Bjorn Bengtsson demonstrated their latest product offering the QKore.   Effectively a grounding unit the QKore – most notably the QKore 1 [there are three versions] really improved the resolution [fine detail retrieval] and the bass definition and timing coming from the KEF Reference 1 loudspeakers.

(https://s26.postimg.org/h0c4tvjqh/20171014_132555.jpg)
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: wilflare on October 18, 2017, 12:35
I heard the QKore (and the Kones as well) - couldn't believe it but it really made a difference :O
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: tane0019 on October 18, 2017, 20:17
These are the main casts (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171018/98433c79c3b4e685352fc3ef70da6d8f.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171018/d78169aae830c1834e961fde2c5a216b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171018/41d17481710afefbdb2eeb32492a4fbd.jpg)

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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: zense on October 18, 2017, 21:05
Been noticing some questions asked about the reliability of the KEF LS50W on some other forums. Locally in HWZ saw one case... Anyone have any insights on this?
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Fatalethal on October 19, 2017, 10:09
Been noticing some questions asked about the reliability of the KEF LS50W on some other forums. Locally in HWZ saw one case... Anyone have any insights on this?

care to share the link to HWZ? I can't seem to find it.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: cstanxpl on October 19, 2017, 11:18
KEF LS50 Wireless ‘Nocturne’ Special Edition

https://www.whathifi.com/news/kef-ls50-wireless-nocturne-special-edition-music-to-our-eyes-and-ears
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: zense on October 19, 2017, 19:57
care to share the link to HWZ? I can't seem to find it.

Sure.

http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/home-theatre-audiophiles-13/question-kef-active-speakers-5614931-2.html

Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Esquire on October 20, 2017, 22:59
Hey Guys!

I just placed an order for the Q350 pair of speakers.  Do you guys have any suggestions on the stereo amp to go with it for music?

Now I have a denon x6300h and a Marantz PM6002.



Any amp that may complement Q350 better yet still under $1000?

Appreciate any suggestion.

Does the Q350 sound good at low volume level?   Thanks!
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Fumio on October 20, 2017, 23:46
Does the Q350 sound good at low volume level?   Thanks!


omg GP Acoustics takes so long to ship my speakers...... sorry cannot help you because they are waiting for restock...
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Squeaky on October 21, 2017, 10:38
omg GP Acoustics takes so long to ship my speakers...... sorry cannot help you because they are waiting for restock...
I had similar experience with my purchase, which took close to 4 weeks.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: wilflare on October 30, 2017, 22:34
I had similar experience with my purchase, which took close to 4 weeks.

what happened to your LS50W?
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Squeaky on October 31, 2017, 00:15
what happened to your LS50W?
I was just sharing that my speaker purchase also took quite a while. 
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: wilflare on October 31, 2017, 18:31
I was just sharing that my speaker purchase also took quite a while. 

oh... as in while waiting for restock?
I'm waiting for the restock of the Blue/Black :/
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Fumio on October 31, 2017, 21:28
Update: My Q350 still have to wait another 2 weeks. Dunno what is wrong about this company??? ???
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Esquire on October 31, 2017, 21:40
Update: My Q350 still have to wait another 2 weeks. Dunno what is wrong about this company??? ???

They should keep some ready stock for walk-in customer.  I usually like to cash and carry myself.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Squeaky on October 31, 2017, 21:44
oh... as in while waiting for restock?
I'm waiting for the restock of the Blue/Black :/
It was not available so I paid and waited for it to arrive. If you wait for it to be in store, you might miss it again?

What is the Blue/Black?
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: skong121176 on October 31, 2017, 21:44
oh... as in while waiting for restock?
I'm waiting for the restock of the Blue/Black :/
U can buy at Tangs or even Robinson with available stocks...

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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Squeaky on October 31, 2017, 21:49
U can buy at Tangs or even Robinson with available stocks...

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I have a preference to buy from KEF direct. You can ask them for advice on setup and other stuff.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: wilflare on October 31, 2017, 23:02
It was not available so I paid and waited for it to arrive. If you wait for it to be in store, you might miss it again?

What is the Blue/Black?

oh the Blue/Black colour.

U can buy at Tangs or even Robinson with available stocks...

ah. I keep forgetting that they have outlets at Tangs/Robinsons...
do they have the Blue/Black colour... and the price is fixed at S$3299...
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: skong121176 on October 31, 2017, 23:22
oh the Blue/Black colour.

ah. I keep forgetting that they have outlets at Tangs/Robinsons...
do they have the Blue/Black colour... and the price is fixed at S$3299...
Not sure about the color availability, u might need to check with them...price is fixed but u get rebate points

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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: wilflare on November 24, 2017, 10:31
anyone tried using Isotek power cables with their LS50W?
do you hear tangible differences?
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: thyewb on January 18, 2018, 13:41
Hi guys.. I am currently using passive LS50 speakers for a few months. I did quite a few of entry-level upgrades of components to improve the SQ. However, I still found the vocal is rather lay back and the energy is not high enough, although it can go really loud.
Appreciate if any bros advise me how I can make the vocal more forward and improve the energy level of speakers? Should I change the power amp or power cords or just change to a bigger bookshelf speakers?

Source: SoTM-200 (powered by Uptone LPS-1)
DAC: Schiit Gungnir MB
Pre-amp: Schiit Saga
Amp: Schiit Vidar
USB: Oyaide Continental 5S
Interconnects: Mogami 2803 RCA
Speaker cable: Tellurium Black
Power: Plixir (1st Gen) 800 with mix of Belden 83803 and Plixir Elementa power cords
Speaker: LS50 sitting on Isoacoustics stands
Subwoofer: Jamo J10

Thanks and have a pleasant day.

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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Esquire on January 18, 2018, 13:56
I think vocal a bit laid back is a good thing. 
Loudspeakers with vocal too forward, jumping out of the speakers can cause fatigue.

Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Amon86 on January 18, 2018, 14:19
Hi guys.. I am currently using passive LS50 speakers for a few months. I did quite a few of entry-level upgrades of components to improve the SQ. However, I still found the vocal is rather lay back and the energy is not high enough, although it can go really loud.
Appreciate if any bros advise me how I can make the vocal more forward and improve the energy level of speakers? Should I change the power amp or power cords or just change to a bigger bookshelf speakers?

Source: SoTM-200 (powered by Uptone LPS-1)
DAC: Schiit Gungnir MB
Pre-amp: Schiit Saga
Amp: Schiit Vidar
USB: Oyaide Continental 5S
Interconnects: Mogami 2803 RCA
Speaker cable: Tellurium Black
Power: Plixir (1st Gen) 800 with mix of Belden 83803 and Plixir Elementa power cords
Speaker: LS50 sitting on Isoacoustics stands
Subwoofer: Jamo J10

Thanks and have a pleasant day.

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I am using LS50 passive for mine is more toward bright and forward sounding for my configuration will be using isotek polaris to centrance dacmini > Naim Atom > Naim NAC A5 speaker cable to LS50

You could add like nordost cable like blue heaven to make it sound brighter or add Nordost QV2 to add in more midrange
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Doggie Howser on January 18, 2018, 15:13
Shouldn’t one choose a speaker for how it sounds first? Rather than try to patch it later on
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: gkt on January 18, 2018, 16:05
The LS50 needs a lot of juice to perform at their best. I drove mine with the Densen B100 and it wasn't that great. Much better when I switched to the DM10, although still likely not operating at the optimum.

If I remember an article correctly, the power supply of the amp must have the ability to supply enough current to the speakers for it to perform when demanded, especially when the impedance drops. At low level listening it may not matter, but at elevated volumes you can notice the difference.





Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: blue_starfish on January 18, 2018, 17:28
Same experience as gkt. Kelvin of GP recommended me the biggest NAD within budget, and it turned out to be the 150W high current model. I was at first skeptical that a bookshelf would need so much current. Kelvin was spot-on. The other improvement is to anchor the LS50 to proper heavy stands at ear height. The bass definition, dynamics, clarity and imaging all go up a few notches.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Doggie Howser on February 15, 2018, 14:30
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180215/a015720f2460cb3b1e604801c1aa4ac1.jpg)

The Reference 3 is a beautiful sweet spot of the range.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: skong121176 on February 15, 2018, 14:45
Same experience as gkt. Kelvin of GP recommended me the biggest NAD within budget, and it turned out to be the 150W high current model. I was at first skeptical that a bookshelf would need so much current. Kelvin was spot-on. The other improvement is to anchor the LS50 to proper heavy stands at ear height. The bass definition, dynamics, clarity and imaging all go up a few notches.
What's the recommended stand for LS50W and where to get? Currently using the atacama Nexus stand

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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Doggie Howser on February 15, 2018, 14:52
KEF makes the Performance stands for the LS50 and LS50W

But for my money, look at the Sonus Faber Venere stands. They are just a bit taller which is handy at getting the UniQ driver to ear height
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: skong121176 on February 15, 2018, 14:57
KEF makes the Performance stands for the LS50 and LS50W

But for my money, look at the Sonus Faber Venere stands. They are just a bit taller which is handy at getting the UniQ driver to ear height
Yeah was looking at the performance stand but thinking if there are any better options for the money that any bros here can recommend


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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Doggie Howser on February 15, 2018, 15:34
In Australia the Venere stands are about $100 cheaper
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: watchdog on February 15, 2018, 16:56
LS50s are not my idea of bright and forward speakers. In fact, you could say they are laidback, with a creamy midrange and treble that maybe could be described as not so obvious.

They need plenty of power. They really thrived on >150 WPC in my setup. As for stands, get the best heavy mass stands you can find. Sounds superb on my Partington Dreadnought Broadside, OK with my Atacama SE24 and dreadful on an Atacama Nexus 6.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: wechnivag on February 15, 2018, 17:23
Yeah was looking at the performance stand but thinking if there are any better options for the money that any bros here can recommend


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I would recommend any stands that you can mass load with ball bearings or sand. For a real quick experiment , try putting a bag of raw rice on top of your current speaker. It is extremely effective at killing the vibration from the driver movement. If you like what you hear, then can proceed to build or source a mass loaded stand.

Cheers!

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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Squeaky on February 20, 2018, 10:23
I would recommend any stands that you can mass load with ball bearings or sand. For a real quick experiment , try putting a bag of raw rice on top of your current speaker. It is extremely effective at killing the vibration from the driver movement. If you like what you hear, then can proceed to build or source a mass loaded stand.

Cheers!

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Good tip!
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Squeaky on February 23, 2018, 14:58
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180215/a015720f2460cb3b1e604801c1aa4ac1.jpg)

The Reference 3 is a beautiful sweet spot of the range.
I just noticed you didn't use the spikes that come with the speakers?
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Doggie Howser on February 23, 2018, 15:24
This was just for positioning :)

They are using IsoAcoustic Gaias now
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Doggie Howser on May 23, 2018, 09:33
Just got 2 pairs of LS50 Black Edition for myself. I didn't unbox them fully yet. Just to check. Yesterday they shipped me two pairs of the regular "Black" by mistake so I thought I should check they got the right ones this time.

But had a nice surprise - the Black/Black have a matte/textured finish - which I love much more than the glossy black finish. Really really really nice.

Can't wait to try them at home.

Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Doggie Howser on May 23, 2018, 12:49
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180523/25516f58c7c647c4a8fce7fda7eb38f1.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180523/e4216b47e82af8b8cfa3e67baf9e715f.jpg)

Don’t know if the texture is noticeable in the photos
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Audio on May 23, 2018, 14:46
What?  They sound as good as the Thiel?

(Audio)
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Doggie Howser on May 23, 2018, 14:59
Not the same as the Thiel but I always liked them. I can use identical drivers for 5.x HT - actually I have enough for 7.x now and there’s a matching in ceiling speaker.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: ngsk on September 07, 2018, 07:42
The new R series is out with 3 floor stander --- R11,R7 & R5,a bookshelf --- R3,a center spk --- R2c plus an Atmos spk --- R8a.
The R3 will be on demo starting today in GP Acoustics @The Adelphi.For other model n more details can check in store with them.
More info on the announcement can be found here: https://www.hometheaterforum.com/kef-announces-revamped-r-series-speakers/
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: ngsk on September 07, 2018, 10:53
Specs for the new R series: http://international.kef.com/hi-fi-speakers/hi-fi-speaker-series/rseries
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: qflyer on September 07, 2018, 16:59
https://www.kefdirect.com/speakers/hi-fi-speakers/rseries-2018.html

check the price
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: tane0019 on September 07, 2018, 22:23
This one really look bery nice  :)

(https://www.kefdirect.com/pub/media/catalog/product/cache/4309a2b528ada9b6dbc24eb16cc8e146/r/1/r11_walnut_sidefront_withgrille_final_2.jpg)

Why the port go to one side wan ??

(https://www.kefdirect.com/pub/media/catalog/product/cache/4309a2b528ada9b6dbc24eb16cc8e146/r/1/r11_black_sideback_final_3.jpg)
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Tiktokape on September 07, 2018, 22:31
This one really look bery nice  :)

(https://www.kefdirect.com/pub/media/catalog/product/cache/4309a2b528ada9b6dbc24eb16cc8e146/r/1/r11_walnut_sidefront_withgrille_final_2.jpg)

Why the port go to one side wan ??

(https://www.kefdirect.com/pub/media/catalog/product/cache/4309a2b528ada9b6dbc24eb16cc8e146/r/1/r11_black_sideback_final_3.jpg)
Similar like LS50, also to one side.


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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: tane0019 on September 08, 2018, 21:13
http://www.youtube.com/v/9_7zfWOS7Dk&fs=1 http://www.youtube.com/v/GabD8qc_gJQ&fs=1
Title: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Tiktokape on September 10, 2018, 18:52
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180910/6822c781732edda0dc7191926614e8fe.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180910/edbbf0c55eb2517c299fbf9b5b7d8037.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180910/6036854418248708fd0a68e50d688840.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180910/9b8e8871aaa3f5d5ea1848092310b1ed.jpg)
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: francishuang on September 10, 2018, 19:20
The wood finish center very nice....

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180910/6822c781732edda0dc7191926614e8fe.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180910/edbbf0c55eb2517c299fbf9b5b7d8037.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180910/6036854418248708fd0a68e50d688840.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180910/9b8e8871aaa3f5d5ea1848092310b1ed.jpg)
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: cstanxpl on September 27, 2018, 16:17
WHF? R3 review

https://www.whathifi.com/reviews/kef-r3
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Doggie Howser on September 27, 2018, 19:36
Can’t wait to get them here.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: tane0019 on October 10, 2018, 21:00
http://www.youtube.com/v/BpZG0zfiDSM&fs=1
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: ngsk on October 12, 2018, 21:23
Just back from GP,heard the R7 sound more refine than the R700,vocal was better on this 1. They have promotion on the active LS50 wireless @3k.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: sevenz on October 14, 2018, 17:24
This one really look bery nice  :)

(https://www.kefdirect.com/pub/media/catalog/product/cache/4309a2b528ada9b6dbc24eb16cc8e146/r/1/r11_walnut_sidefront_withgrille_final_2.jpg)

Why the port go to one side wan ??

(https://www.kefdirect.com/pub/media/catalog/product/cache/4309a2b528ada9b6dbc24eb16cc8e146/r/1/r11_black_sideback_final_3.jpg)

wah the walnut dam chio. Love it deeep deep
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: kzone on October 28, 2018, 18:56
LS50 wireless owners, anyone using it with Apple TV Bluetooth, is there lip sync issues when watching Netflix, iTunes movies etc
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: malsound on November 01, 2018, 17:36
http://www.youtube.com/v/E0NKohWaVsU&fs=1
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: tane0019 on November 01, 2018, 19:08
This LSX look very interesting.
How much GP selling ?
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Doggie Howser on November 02, 2018, 12:28
In Australia under 1.9k

Fewer inputs, but wireless between L and R speaker!
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: kzone on November 02, 2018, 12:34
In Australia under 1.9k

Fewer inputs, but wireless between L and R speaker!

any additional functions over the LS50W? can't really tell fm the video what are new
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Doggie Howser on November 02, 2018, 12:45
I think it drops USB and RCA inputs - just mini stereo. Has optical and Ethernet.

So no new additional functions.

Smaller unit (4" instead of 5.25"), lower power amps.

Newer funkier colors.

Did I mention no link cable between L and R :)
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: kzone on November 02, 2018, 14:33
Also only class D now vs D plus AB. Hopefully no price increase for the LS50W since they now have the LSX to target the mass market
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Soul108 on November 02, 2018, 22:23
wah the walnut dam chio. Love it deeep deep
yah... sian man... very gian to upgrade..

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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: wusplay on November 03, 2018, 00:15
LXS is very small beside LS50 W

(https://www.hifi-journal.de/images/pics/2018/test/KEF/LSX/KEF-LSX-05k.jpg)
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Soul108 on November 03, 2018, 00:30
LXS is very small beside LS50 W

(https://www.hifi-journal.de/images/pics/2018/test/KEF/LSX/KEF-LSX-05k.jpg)
I think they are targeting a generation of digitally engaged consumers who listen to streaming, brand conscious and sophisticated.

The LSX hits the right spots and price point which should make it a hit. Personally give me wired anytime.



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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: wusplay on November 03, 2018, 08:15
LSX is like a shoebox condo. Cheaper than LS50 (a standard size condo) but not cheap in term of per cubic inch...haha
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Soul108 on November 03, 2018, 08:17
LSX is like a shoebox condo. Cheaper than LS50 (a standard size condo) but not cheap in term of per cubic inch...haha
haha. interesting and apt analogy.

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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: cstanxpl on November 03, 2018, 20:02
WHF? LSX review

https://www.whathifi.com/reviews/kef-lsx
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: sevenz on November 04, 2018, 12:14
I think they are targeting a generation of digitally engaged consumers who listen to streaming, brand conscious and sophisticated.

The LSX hits the right spots and price point which should make it a hit. Personally give me wired anytime.



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+1.

Hope they do their marketing well, and get some mega stores to sell them. Many consumers dunno about specialised brands like kef
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: sevenz on November 04, 2018, 12:15
yah... sian man... very gian to upgrade..

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Ha chio hor... droolz. which model r u using now?
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Soul108 on November 04, 2018, 13:13
+1.

Hope they do their marketing well, and get some mega stores to sell them. Many consumers dunno about specialised brands like kef
hopefully we get enough to support the brand but not too much to drive prices too high. lol

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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Soul108 on November 04, 2018, 13:16
Ha chio hor... droolz. which model r u using now?
I think it's abit polarizing. have seen some comments where ppl diss it but I really do like the wood/walnut version.

am using the R700 now in a 2.0 setup. have also bought the R200c for movies and 2 little Eggs to complete the back 2.

but once you have kids.. sigh...

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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: sevenz on November 04, 2018, 14:28
I think it's abit polarizing. have seen some comments where ppl diss it but I really do like the wood/walnut version.

am using the R700 now in a 2.0 setup. have also bought the R200c for movies and 2 little Eggs to complete the back 2.

but once you have kids.. sigh...

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So nice. Love the r series.

Same here. Just got a baby a home and it's quite challenging to watch a movie and need to take extra steps to protect the equipment
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Soul108 on November 04, 2018, 14:32
So nice. Love the r series.

Same here. Just got a baby a home and it's quite challenging to watch a movie and need to take extra steps to protect the equipment
congrats buddy. I have 2 at home and they know not to touch the equipment.. in fact they told me to remove the grilles .. as the music will sound better. lol.

but generally less time for music and movies..



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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: sevenz on November 04, 2018, 15:02
congrats buddy. I have 2 at home and they know not to touch the equipment.. in fact they told me to remove the grilles .. as the music will sound better. lol.

but generally less time for music and movies..



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wa their ears beri sharp huh... can tell the diff!
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Soul108 on November 04, 2018, 23:41
wa their ears beri sharp huh... can tell the diff!

Don't know if their eyes are sharp or they just trying to hoodwink dad. haha..
BTW, what i'm interested to find out is with the new 2018 R series, has the gap narrowed between the Reference series?
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: sevenz on November 06, 2018, 21:51
hahaha...

anyone auditioned the new R series so far and compared it with 2017's R series? =)
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: wusplay on November 26, 2018, 19:03
 had a quick listen to lsx. First impression,  the sound 'shrunk' when switched from ls50w playing the same song. I kept pressing the remote to increase the volume hope to make it sound bigger. Haha, is a small speakers after all. Have to say the imaging is very good. I like the good sound quality
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: DJQ on November 28, 2018, 00:08
my newbie friend was hooked with the new LSX wireless spk.

(https://hometheaterreview.com/assets_c/2018/10/KEF_LSX_Group_2_LR-thumb-800xauto-19793.jpg)
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: DJQ on November 28, 2018, 00:10
had a quick listen to lsx. First impression,  the sound 'shrunk' when switched from ls50w playing the same song. I kept pressing the remote to increase the volume hope to make it sound bigger. Haha, is a small speakers after all. Have to say the imaging is very good. I like the good sound quality

the tweak to do is. get better power cords and proper footers. this small fella can be even better.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Doggie Howser on November 28, 2018, 09:32
I think it is just great for the living room flatscreen TV.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: wusplay on December 01, 2018, 16:46
https://audiobacon.net/2018/11/30/kef-lsx-vs-kef-ls50w-hear-the-difference/
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: DJQ on December 04, 2018, 13:09
Eh ultimately the author never buy leh. Haha. At least point out which he would prefer and make the purchase. Telling the whole world he is still on his cheap PC speaker  ???
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: kzone on December 04, 2018, 13:46
lol. He kind of mentioned he preferred the LSX.  "I personally preferred the tone and “meaty” nature of the LSX, especially on vocals....."

Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Soul108 on December 04, 2018, 13:54
lol. He kind of mentioned he preferred the LSX.  "I personally preferred the tone and “meaty” nature of the LSX, especially on vocals....."
bacon and meaty..



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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: DJQ on December 04, 2018, 14:35
well. i kind of agree that, no DAC , no media player, no speaker cables, no cdp, no amp, no interconnects. power on and wifi volia. Good decent sound, better than pc speakers and LED Tvs.
but but, where is the fun without them?
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: kzone on December 04, 2018, 14:46
well.. u can play with power cords, stands n footers!

u also have more space for other toys... I'm connecting a turntable to the LS50W
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: DJQ on December 04, 2018, 15:34
nice. i dare not show wifey, wait she say she want a pair as Xmas present.  :-X
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: cstanxpl on December 04, 2018, 16:40
Think the LSX will be great as computer desktop speakers.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Soul108 on December 04, 2018, 17:18
Think the LSX will be great as computer desktop speakers.
for the price I think it's overkill...

but if money is no object.... sure..

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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: wusplay on December 04, 2018, 18:11
DJQ, you go buy LSX or LS50W lar,  then do a side by side  comparison with similar price range Dynaudio.

Haha, if Kef is better, then you post the result here lor. But if Dynaudio is better, then you post it under the Dynaudio thread.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: kzone on December 04, 2018, 20:38
DJQ, you go buy LSX or LS50W lar,  then do a side by side  comparison with similar price range Dynaudio.

Haha, if Kef is better, then you post the result here lor. But if Dynaudio is better, then you post it under the Dynaudio thread.

That was what I kind of did.... not buy but listened to one after another, a few doors away. Different room but same source.

Oh, also compared with the Dyn that's double in price
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: wusplay on December 04, 2018, 21:08
You're referring to LS50w right.
Haha not surprisingly you think LS50w is better than speakers costing 2x more. Steve Huff said it was better than a $50k setup he tested.

https://youtu.be/xPbPLJmMaJs
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: bigbird on December 04, 2018, 22:54
I think there is promotion 15% off for KEF LSX from 3rd to 9th Dec at Musica Boutique ION Orchard.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: kzone on December 05, 2018, 01:48
You're referring to LS50w right.
Haha not surprisingly you think LS50w is better than speakers costing 2x more. Steve Huff said it was better than a $50k setup he tested.

https://youtu.be/xPbPLJmMaJs

which 50k setup so bad?

yeah the LS50W but I've not heard the LSX yet. Bacon likes it better at half the price
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Doggie Howser on December 05, 2018, 07:35
Dunno who Bacon is. But you just have to sit beside them and unless you have earmuffs it is clear the LS50W is better than the LSX. Less veiled and the bass is noticeably punchier and tuned lower.

But better than a 50k System? Pffft

Put a 16k Plinius SA Reference with a 9k DS DAC and an LS50 passive (2k) and I’d have a 27k system that would kick the Wireless version into the Stone Age.

If I decided to go with a KEF R3 for 3k or R7 for 6k even better.

Heck I reckon an R3 + Naim Uniti Nova would do the job at about 10k. And have a much better interface than the LS50W
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Doggie Howser on December 05, 2018, 07:36
That said I would like an LSX for the TV. Seems perfect than what I was doing with my passive LS50 Bel Canto REF500M TEAC UD503 combo (too much clutter)
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: DJQ on December 05, 2018, 08:50
Dunno who Bacon is. But you just have to sit beside them and unless you have earmuffs it is clear the LS50W is better than the LSX. Less veiled and the bass is noticeably punchier and tuned lower.

But better than a 50k System? Pffft

Put a 16k Plinius SA Reference with a 9k DS DAC and an LS50 passive (2k) and I’d have a 27k system that would kick the Wireless version into the Stone Age.

If I decided to go with a KEF R3 for 3k or R7 for 6k even better.

Heck I reckon an R3 + Naim Uniti Nova would do the job at about 10k. And have a much better interface than the LS50W


yeah now we talking... you have not add Power cords, power distributer, speaker cables, Interconnects, hifi rack. i think around 50k liao. lol.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Doggie Howser on December 05, 2018, 10:49
You wouldn't need interconnects and distributors on the Naim+R3 combo and you would need power cords on the LS50W
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: kzone on December 06, 2018, 02:15
Anyone played with power cords on the LS50W or LSX? Worth the $$$ ?
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Doggie Howser on December 06, 2018, 07:19
LS50W - there is a difference but whether it is worth it - depends on you. They had a bundle with Blue Heaven cords here.

LSX uses a Mickey Mouse type connector
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: DJQ on December 06, 2018, 08:54
LS50W - there is a difference but whether it is worth it - depends on you. They had a bundle with Blue Heaven cords here.

LSX uses a Mickey Mouse type connector

SG got different treatment. oh well here has different group of ppl. i still ppl telling me why you need exp cables?
yeah Mickey mouse connector got good ones anot? think furutech have... do not waste time is what they will tell you.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: kzone on December 06, 2018, 13:09
LS50W - there is a difference but whether it is worth it - depends on you. They had a bundle with Blue Heaven cords here.

kind of tricky with such all in one product. The powercord is like acting as a distributor to all the devices in there. Would you use different powercords for L & R considering the "master" side has the Amp, DAC, streamer n stuffs while the other side is just the amps?
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Doggie Howser on December 06, 2018, 13:32
I wouldn’t. The main power draw would be the amps and that’s common.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: kzone on December 06, 2018, 14:39
True.... though not very power hungry amps....
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: malsound on December 06, 2018, 16:26
LS50W - there is a difference but whether it is worth it - depends on you. They had a bundle with Blue Heaven cords here.

LSX uses a Mickey Mouse type connector

There are the C5 Type.

https://www.thecableco.com/venom-14.html

https://www.musicdirect.com/cables/audioquest-nrg-x3-c5-cloverleaf-power-cable

http://recordclean.com.au/voodoo-x-ray-power-cord---1-8m---c5-cloverleaf.html

Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: malsound on December 07, 2018, 18:23
http://www.youtube.com/v/ngLw8S7qhHs&fs=1
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: malsound on December 07, 2018, 19:45
http://www.youtube.com/v/vbHfXkGvniU&fs=1
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: cstanxpl on December 07, 2018, 21:06
If you have asia miles to redeem..

http://redeem.asiamiles.com/default/electronics-and-accessories/kef-lsx-wireless-music-system.html

Only issue is have to redeem personally from HK.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Soul108 on December 07, 2018, 21:19
If you have asia miles to redeem..

http://redeem.asiamiles.com/default/electronics-and-accessories/kef-lsx-wireless-music-system.html

Only issue is have to redeem personally from HK.
miles are meant to be consumed by redeeming J onwards.

it would be a waste of miles.

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Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: kzone on December 08, 2018, 13:08
http://www.youtube.com/v/ngLw8S7qhHs&fs=1

The LSX rhythm in this video is actually much better, the LS50W sounds way off. But I hear much better recordings for both soeakers on other you tube reviews
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: wusplay on December 08, 2018, 15:07
I had a hard time to distinguish the difference between the two by playing back the YouTube through my speaker. All sounded the same. Haha my gears and hearing are not good enough.
When i heard the two in the shop, LS50W was bviously more transparent. LSX sound 'thicker' possibly the added body is to make this smaller speaker sound bigger. Or maybe the setting on the speakers were different. Anyway I like both.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: kzone on December 08, 2018, 22:16
computer speakers?

was using my mobile with earphones. the 2 are very distinctive. The LSX midrange is more pronounced... a tad too over powering to me. of cos alot was due to the playback equipment as well, actual sound may be very different
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: malsound on December 09, 2018, 07:31
Maybe the eq was set high on the mid range for the LSX. BTW if you haven't notice the video was recorded at our friendly local neighbourhood Kef agent with weather pattern changes in the background too.  ;D
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: wusplay on December 09, 2018, 12:09
I found the not used samsung note9 earphone and listened again.This time just like what kzone had described, i heard the difference.

I think lsx is facing some difficulty to be popular in local market. Hifi enthusiasm will appreciate the quality of LSX but somehow i think most will find LS50W a more attractive choice other than those who are looking for a compact speakers. Overall consumer will find it rather expensive compare to a wide range of lifestyle audio products.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: wusplay on December 09, 2018, 12:21
I think there is promotion 15% off for KEF LSX from 3rd to 9th Dec at Musica Boutique ION Orchard.

Msrp=1899, 15% off = 1615 ?
For those who are interested, promotion will end by today.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: kzone on December 09, 2018, 12:31
BTW if you haven't notice the video was recorded at our friendly local neighbourhood Kef agent with weather pattern changes in the background too.  ;D

Yeah, that’s where I heard the LS50W. Very impressed with it despite being placed on that ledge
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: kzone on January 06, 2019, 15:53
Just ordered the LS50W stands with the hidden cable management. can it fit aftermarket power cord plugs?
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: DJQ on February 26, 2019, 09:00
http://www.xtremeplace.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=282718.0;topicseen

woah. didnt know these were also on a hefty price tag.
well care and share is indirectly allowed. whats next bro?  :)
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: malsound on February 27, 2019, 16:21
http://www.youtube.com/v/VMVRbHTDka4&fs=1
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: malsound on March 28, 2019, 17:38
http://www.youtube.com/v/bVs1vr5Bs-o&fs=1
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: merelyok on March 28, 2019, 18:00
Heard the R11 at a couple of days back at GP.

Considering that it was just being driven by a NAD receiver, i was very much impressed by the SQ.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: tane0019 on March 28, 2019, 20:46
Heard the R11 at a couple of days back at GP.

Considering that it was just being driven by a NAD receiver, i was very much impressed by the SQ.

How is the bass ?  Really like the looks man.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: merelyok on March 29, 2019, 08:37
How is the bass ?  Really like the looks man.

I found it to be really solid - to the point that i thought a sub was connected.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Doggie Howser on March 29, 2019, 09:50
How big is the room? I have the Reference 5 - basically the R11 on steroids and the bass is way too much in a 4x6m room.

Now it is in 5x7m and it is beautiful.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: merelyok on March 29, 2019, 10:05
Pretty big i reckon, didn't measure it but it was not small ( typicall showroom size with one setup on the long wall and the other placed at the short wall ).

Would port bungs enable for it work in a smaller area?
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Doggie Howser on March 29, 2019, 12:40
Pretty big i reckon, didn't measure it but it was not small ( typicall showroom size with one setup on the long wall and the other placed at the short wall ).

Would port bungs enable for it work in a smaller area?

KEF actually supplies different ports for the Reference 3/5 :D

I am using the ports for the "smaller" room

Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: merelyok on March 29, 2019, 12:44
KEF actually supplies different ports for the Reference 3/5 :D

I am using the ports for the "smaller" room



sweet! now , what excuse can i concoct to convince the wife i need another pair of speakers....
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: tane0019 on March 29, 2019, 21:00
How much a pair locally ?
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: merelyok on March 31, 2019, 14:47
How much a pair locally ?


Was quoted 8k, not quite sure if there is any room for negotiation though.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: wusplay on March 31, 2019, 19:06
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1RfrrOhkEQxNddYlbzsH2hICRZWcO0tT6)
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1liF7G-R5NMQiYp7Sgr7Ig7E8ia3Av_Ht)
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1-2rYggm5kECHf89vNr4G5SfxlVE7-QX7)
 
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: rock123 on March 31, 2019, 19:07
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1RfrrOhkEQxNddYlbzsH2hICRZWcO0tT6)
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1liF7G-R5NMQiYp7Sgr7Ig7E8ia3Av_Ht)
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1-2rYggm5kECHf89vNr4G5SfxlVE7-QX7)
 

Congrats bro looks beauty.  is this the new LW series?
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: wusplay on March 31, 2019, 19:11
LSX
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: wusplay on March 31, 2019, 19:35
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=10nlwJOnuTRKXCENO51iQAhUNLVvkZmhm)
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: wusplay on April 01, 2019, 03:24
Lsx is easy to setup. I started listening in no time.
I moved LSX from table to speaker stand. Everything became better.
can't resist, I did a quick A/B with Dynaudio Lyd (Pro active speaker) in the same room.
Of course it was an unfair comparison.
Dynaudio was connected to Ayre Codex directly. I heard much more detail on Dynaudio setup. Mainly thank to the excellent DAC.
Bass of Lsx is bigger than I expected for such a small speaker. surprisingly it sound heavier than Dynaudio (I need to check the EQ setting later) but it can't produce the type of quick and bouncy impact like Dynaudio. Basically Lsx is not as transparent, less detail, and somehow sound thicker in mid(more body). The imaging and the cohesiveness of Lsx is so good. Already very listenable vday 1 out of the box not properly run in yet.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Doggie Howser on April 01, 2019, 08:01
I didn’t think the LSX carried across the sound of the original LS50W. It felt like a product designed for a specific market and borrowed on the LS50W’s reputation.

I’m actually quite keen to hear the 3 way active bookshelf from Andrew Jones/Elac. It has a pure analog amplification and crossover and accepts XLR inputs with a defeatable wireless section to connect to an optional wireless streaming module that is Roon compatible.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: sevenz on April 01, 2019, 18:05
http://www.youtube.com/v/bVs1vr5Bs-o&fs=1

Thanks for this! Just watched the video last nite.

Quite interesting comments and impressions to know.

Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: tane0019 on April 01, 2019, 20:30
Was quoted 8k, not quite sure if there is any room for negotiation though.

8K for this ........  tempting ........

(http://homeavdirect.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/650x650/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/k/e/kef-r11-walnut.png)
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: merelyok on April 02, 2019, 10:24
8K for this ........  tempting ........

(http://homeavdirect.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/650x650/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/k/e/kef-r11-walnut.png)

indeed it is...the black paint job is quite the looker in the flesh as well.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: sevenz on April 07, 2019, 19:57
Need some advice on used prices for KEF.

How much is a good & fair price to pay for a used R300 pair? I could have the chance to snag a pair if the person i know is willing to let go...
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Doggie Howser on April 08, 2019, 08:42
Don’t buy the R300. The technology is 8-10 years old.

The new R series only shares one thing in common. The letter R. The drivers, cabinets, bracing and crossover are derived from the Reference. You just don’t get the fancy baffle from the Reference. And it isn’t made in the UK.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: qflyer on April 08, 2019, 09:28
8K for this ........  tempting ........

(http://homeavdirect.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/650x650/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/k/e/kef-r11-walnut.png)
i was quoted a lot more. near 15
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Doggie Howser on April 08, 2019, 10:10
i was quoted a lot more. near 15

Huh??

This is Aus retail and it is parity with SGD

https://www.apollohifi.com.au/kef-r11-walnut.html

Are you sure it isn’t because they quoted a system price?
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: qflyer on April 08, 2019, 10:18
Huh??

This is Aus retail and it is parity with SGD

https://www.apollohifi.com.au/kef-r11-walnut.html

Are you sure it isn’t because they quoted a system price?
I don’t have the answer to that. And it was for lower model.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: merelyok on April 08, 2019, 10:25
I don’t have the answer to that. And it was for lower model.

Weird. That's pricing for Reference models.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Doggie Howser on April 08, 2019, 10:26
The Ref 3 is 20k here and the Ref 5 goes up to 29k? Depending on finish.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: sevenz on April 08, 2019, 11:34
Don’t buy the R300. The technology is 8-10 years old.

The new R series only shares one thing in common. The letter R. The drivers, cabinets, bracing and crossover are derived from the Reference. You just don’t get the fancy baffle from the Reference. And it isn’t made in the UK.

Thanks DH.

My intent was to save some monies by getting used set of the previous model. :)

But good to know that the new R is much more enhanced and closer to the reference
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: qflyer on April 08, 2019, 12:44
The Ref 3 is 20k here and the Ref 5 goes up to 29k? Depending on finish.
Again I can’t say anything about the pricing in Australia.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: hanzy on April 10, 2019, 15:36
I am planning to get the r7 for my living room measuring 6x6x2.5
But I have been thinking should I go for r11 if budget allows? Any advice is appreciated
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: malsound on April 10, 2019, 23:03
http://www.youtube.com/v/JDWZtIKzf9k&fs=1
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: malsound on April 10, 2019, 23:09
http://www.youtube.com/v/7Kt2JsZx6Bo&fs=1
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Doggie Howser on April 11, 2019, 13:00
Got my R7s today. Need a hand unpacking them :P
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: merelyok on April 11, 2019, 13:57
Got my R7s today. Need a hand unpacking them :P

No R11? :D

Would love to see some photos!
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Doggie Howser on April 11, 2019, 14:05
We have the Reference 5 here. And it is a real pain to listen to them in anything smaller than our largest room. 4x6m was no go.

Needed at least 4.8x6.5

The R11 is basically a Reference 5 trickled down model.
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: merelyok on April 11, 2019, 14:08
We have the Reference 5 here. And it is a real pain to listen to them in anything smaller than our largest room. 4x6m was no go.

Needed at least 4.8x6.5

The R11 is basically a Reference 5 trickled down model.

I see. Well, all the best burning those beasts in. Enjoy!
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: Doggie Howser on April 11, 2019, 14:20
Friend coming over tomorrow to help me set it up
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: malsound on April 17, 2019, 16:41
http://www.youtube.com/v/Y626g-fWhco&fs=1 ;D
Title: Re: KEF - Current & Potential Owners
Post by: avanters on May 12, 2019, 11:07
Take a look at KEF R11 deep unboxing ;D

https://youtu.be/bTUeSLauB1s