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Title: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on August 27, 2009, 00:33
This is a thread for fellow owners and potential owners to share their info, tips and experiences.

There is a HT thread over at the planet HT, so post there for your questions on the AV components.

In SG, Marantz products have always been cheap, and this gives them the edge and attracts a lot of cost conscious buyers.

So lets share our tips and prices too!

Cheers
Title: Re: Marantz SA 8003
Post by: petetherock on August 27, 2009, 07:28
This costs around 6xx.

Some opinions on it in XP:
http://www.xtremeplace.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=62862.msg495706#msg495706

http://www.xtremeplace.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=62862.msg475706#msg475706

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I think the SA8003 is slightly warmer, slightly less detailed than the Benchmark for normal CD. I have found virtually no differences between the SA8003 as a transport and the Duet streaming Apple Lossless. Those who notice a big difference often compare the Duet to a 5k transport  like an Esoteric. Which is too rich for my blood anyway.

As I maintain before, CD playback has pretty much plateau-ed. If you are getting the SA8003, make sure you start building up your SACD collection  because THAT makes the biggest differences.

If the mods improve the SACD significantly, I may consider them

The 15S2 didn't even have balanced outputs so I think the huge incremental increase is not worth it. But the 11S2 is even pricier. I read elsewhere that HK has the XA5400ES in stock. May be worth checking out if you know anyone there.
Links to other reviews:

http://www.enjoythemusic.com/magazine/equipment/0109/marantz_sa8003.htm

http://www.goodsound.com/equipment/marantz_sa8003.htm

http://www.whathifi.com/Review/Marantz-SA8003-SACD/

http://www.techradar.com/reviews/audio-visual/hi-fi-and-audio/cd-players-and-recorders/marantz-sa8003-456022/review

Manual: http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/wildwestelectronics/sa8003manual.pdf

Specs:
http://us.marantz.com/SA8003SpecSheet.pdf

Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: junchoon on August 27, 2009, 09:19
what is current price for Marantz pm11s1 and pm11s2?

thanks,
wps

Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: zapp on August 27, 2009, 12:29
I picked up a 2nd hand SA-15S1 from a fellow forumer who is also using the Almarro 318B sometime back. What can i say, i am loving every moment of it.

Before making the decision, was trying to find reviews on it and how it compares. Sharing some links here:

http://ca.marantz.com/SA1_PM15_HF_News_Sep_05.pdf
Text version: http://hometheaterreview.com/marantz-sa-15s1-sacd-player-reviewed/

I have also found some comments on some forums that the SA 8001 is actually a better CDP than the current SA 8003.
http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f7/marantz-sa15s1-versus-sa8003-375475/

Other links:

http://www.avforums.com/forums/hi-fi-systems-separates/342702-marantz-dv-9600-vs-sa-15s1-vs-sa-11s1-sound-comparisons.html

http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=64284

http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f7/marantz-sa15s1-versus-sa8003-375475/



Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on August 27, 2009, 13:58
I think if you get the plain vanilla SA 8003, you may wish to consider tweaking it, but give it a spin anyway.

I hated the remote on my 7001 Ki S which is what you refer to as the 8001.

The added USB port and mp3 features are useful bonuses.

Edit: As for the PM 11, try asking Seeket at Seng Heng, or Anson Audio for the price, not many will have that here.

Cheers

Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: HT102 on August 27, 2009, 14:18
Recently I had the opportunity to compare PM-15S1 and PM-8003 with my old EMA-modded PM-6100SA, using the same CDP (SA-15S2), I/C (Chord Chorus 2) and speakers (B&W 805s) in Adelphi.

Somewhat to my surprise, the premium model did not perform to my expectation. My preference is as follows:

PM-6100SA > PM-8003 >> PM-15S1

As usual, YMMV..  :P
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: junchoon on August 27, 2009, 14:51
Edit: As for the PM 11, try asking Seeket at Seng Heng, or Anson Audio for the price, not many will have that here.
Cheers

thanks, have pm them both, hopefully a good price can be have lah.

cheers,
wps
Title: Re: Marantz is warm?
Post by: petetherock on August 28, 2009, 07:21
Many companies try and project themselves in a certain way, and Marantz has always had this "music first" or "music matters" kind of theme, and many buyers consider the sonic signature to be warm.

Hence they have been a natural partner for more treble happy equipment, such as Monitor Audio, but IMO, it is imperative to listen to the equipment, and make sure it suits you. MA is also popular simply due to their VFM stance.

Partnering well is essential. Auditioning is equally important. Simply slapping together a bunch of award winning gear can result in a pretty awful sound.

Other brands which may work well that I have tried will be B/W (more neutral), Mission, JM Lab, PSB (tends to be treble happy too esp for their aluminium tweeters), JBL control 1, Ushers and SVS (SBS series).

Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: seanyzf on September 01, 2009, 11:39
I might be tempted to buy the SA-11S2. Where can I find the cheapest brand new set? KEC? ;D
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on September 01, 2009, 18:29
As mentioned before....

KEC is no longer going for the cheap cheap model. They are aiming for "value" and service. Their prices can be matched by other shops easily.

So it will do buyers good to establish good relationships with some of the other shops too.

After you have got the price do post it too.

Junchoon is looking for the same item.
As for the PM 11, try asking Seeket at Seng Heng, or Anson Audio for the price, not many will have that here.

Cheers


Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: seanyzf on September 01, 2009, 20:39
So they cannot say they are best bargain anymore.  ;D
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: maxngck on September 01, 2009, 20:40
i believe SH will able to gv u better price
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: seanyzf on September 01, 2009, 20:49
Sh =  ???
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: ohm on September 01, 2009, 22:24
Sh =  ???

haaa okie this one I can help...... SH= Seng Heng at Adelphi (Basement)..... look for SK....
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: ohm on September 01, 2009, 22:26
i believe SH will able to gv u better price

wah bro, realise you add a tube somewhere in your setup... any review on it.....  ;D..... so when going for LP....  ;D...
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: seanyzf on September 01, 2009, 22:42
haaa okie this one I can help...... SH= Seng Heng at Adelphi (Basement)..... look for SK....

Oh.. Never been there. Might drop by take a look.  :)
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: zapp on September 02, 2009, 10:51
Give him a ring...i think the number is searchable in XP
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: seanyzf on September 02, 2009, 12:49
Got the price liao..  ;D SA-11S2 $3400, SA-15S2 $1800..
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: sty on September 02, 2009, 17:54
Got the price liao..  ;D SA-11S2 $3400, SA-15S2 $1800..

So u still planning on getting the SA-11S2? ;D
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: seanyzf on September 02, 2009, 18:37
Quit tempted but dunno le because of the price. Cost more den my 52SE liao.. haha i'm currently using Azur 340C pair with citypulse dac.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: maxngck on September 02, 2009, 18:49
wah bro, realise you add a tube somewhere in your setup... any review on it.....  ;D..... so when going for LP....  ;D...

hi!

tat is a tube buffer. just some sort of analog sound processing :P. i m still running in the buffer. LP????...still long long way to go  ;D
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: ohm on September 02, 2009, 20:13
hmmm interesting... so where will this tube buffer be in the equation??? CDP>>> tube buffer>>> Amp???
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Doggie Howser on September 02, 2009, 20:20
Some tube buffers can be placed between pre and power amps.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: ohm on September 02, 2009, 20:32
Some tube buffers can be placed between pre and power amps.

Thank bro.... me noob to all this.... now still letting the MA run in..... still contemplating on my Amp....  :P.....
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Doggie Howser on September 02, 2009, 20:58
There's a discussion on the Yaqin a couple of months back. Pretty cheap but effective. I was originally introduced to tube buffers in general after hearing the Musical Fidelity version (they had two) but both are already out of production.

There are pricier versions out there ( including those with XLR connections etc).

Not sure abt the Musical Fid, but the Yaqin is a cathode follower with a low pass filter.
Title: Re: Marantz PM 8003 is a winner?
Post by: petetherock on September 06, 2009, 15:35
If you read the latest WHF mag, it shows the 8003 scoring 4 stars. Big deal you may say...

But wait... look what it was compared against... Roksans, Naim, and other amps costing about 3 times its cost in SINGAPORE.

So it is relative and it is another reason why we have such a big following of Marantz in SG due to its good competitive pricing...

Cheers

PS: the CD and amp 6003 have just been released too.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: cstanxpl on September 09, 2009, 23:46
2009 EISA award SA8003 - Best Audio source  ;D

http://www.marantz.com/new/index.cfm?fuseaction=Products.ProdAwards&cont=eu&bus=hf&award_id=140
Title: KI Pearl
Post by: petetherock on September 27, 2009, 00:04
According to some folks in echoloft, the KI Pearl is in SG?
Anyone seen it and knows how much it costs?

Cheers
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Summer Jazz on September 28, 2009, 09:45
On the budget front, another winner (CD & amp) from Marantz -
http://whathifi.com/Review/Marantz-CD6003/
Title: Re: KI Pearl
Post by: HT102 on September 28, 2009, 11:04
According to some folks in echoloft, the KI Pearl is in SG?
Anyone seen it and knows how much it costs?

Cheers

Saw the KI Pearl combination at Alpha Audio (SLS branch) over the weekend. Sorry, did not ask the price as I only notice it when I stepped out of the shop.

I was there to ask about the Kandy K2 integrated amp, which is going for S$1.9k.  It caught my eye as I rarely come across an AV equipment that managed to garner awards from so many magazines -- What HiFi (5-stars), Hifi Choice (5-stars), Hi-Fi World (5 Globes), and HiFi News (Highly Commended). FYI, the amp comes with a back-lit learning remote and support HT bypass!
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on September 28, 2009, 12:18
This is OT, but I tried it when I was looking at the Caspian, definitely a step below, and you should not get it.
Saw the KI Pearl combination at Alpha Audio (SLS branch) over the weekend. Sorry, did not ask the price as I only notice it when I stepped out of the shop.

I was there to ask about the Kandy K2 integrated amp, which is going for S$1.9k.  It caught my eye as I rarely come across an AV equipment that managed to garner awards from so many magazines -- What HiFi (5-stars), Hifi Choice (5-stars), Hi-Fi World (5 Globes), and HiFi News (Highly Commended). FYI, the amp comes with a back-lit learning remote and support HT bypass!
Title: Re: KI Pearl
Post by: Goldberg on September 30, 2009, 19:10
According to some folks in echoloft, the KI Pearl is in SG?
Anyone seen it and knows how much it costs?

Cheers

Just saw Jay Audio have the full set, SA KI Pearl & PM KI Pearl on demo.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: seanyzf on September 30, 2009, 20:49
Sianz.. Y marantz dun like to give XLR out except the flagship model.. However the pearl black is damm chio.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: sound_wave on September 30, 2009, 22:04
Saw the KI Pearl at Alpha Audio today and was quoted 2.8k for each component. Is it cheaper in Jay Audio?

Would anyone know if the amp can partner with my Dynaudio Focus 110 speakers nicely? Don't think this combination is very popular.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: cstanxpl on October 10, 2009, 16:26
KI Pearl website.

http://www.marantz.eu/kipearl/
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: cstanxpl on October 10, 2009, 16:31
CD6003 !!!  :o

Must buy !!!  ;D

(http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h259/cs_tan/cd6003.jpg)
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: cstanxpl on October 17, 2009, 22:32
Marantz CD6003 / PM6003 won best CD / AMP up to £500 in their respective category in WHF? 2009 awards.
Title: SA 8003 + Usher 520
Post by: petetherock on December 01, 2009, 14:14
Not a bad combo and you can achieve a pretty respectable CD based stereo system for <1.2k

I must add that my own 8003 is a mod version, but the Usher partners well with this.
Title: Mods for the SA 8003
Post by: petetherock on January 20, 2010, 07:19
For those who have asked me about it, you can get the mods from:
James
www.effectiveaudiomod.com
tel : 9694 9704
email : sales@effectiveaudiomod.com

http://www.xtremeplace.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=70506.0

I have not heard a non-mod 8003.
My own thoughts on the upgrade process:
http://www.xtremeplace.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=62862.0
Title: Re: Marantz PM 5003 review in Stereophile
Post by: petetherock on February 02, 2010, 00:15
http://stereophile.com/integratedamps/marantz_pm5003_integrated_amplifier/

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You'll stand mighty proud. The Marantz PM5003 is a stunning achievement: an uncolored, revealing, well-built gem with more features than anyone could possibly ask for at the price. I'd almost go so far as to suggest that all well-heeled audiophiles buy one, just to create a benchmark in their minds for what's available for $450 from today's talented electronics designers. I plan to keep my sample around for a while, as I seek out other components to couple with it as candidates to be included in complete two-channel systems that are highly revealing and musical but that retail for a total of no more than $1000. That ought to keep you youts happy for a while.
Title: New DAB+ radio tuner - NA 7004
Post by: petetherock on May 31, 2010, 08:59
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3366/4594807069_98c18dd663_o.jpg)

http://www.hdfever.fr/2010/05/11/marantz-na7004/

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Also getting a first showing at Munch was the NA7004 Network Audio Player. This ingenious device seamlessly bridges the world of hi-fi and new media. Whether music is stored on your PC or your iPhone, whether you want to listen to Last.fm, Napster or vTuner for internet radio, maybe even FM, DAB or DAB+, the NA7004 embraces it all. And, thanks to its use of Marantz proprietary audio output stage technology including HDAMs and power supplies, the NA7004 delivers the latest formats at audiophile quality. The NA7004 will become available in October 2010.

Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: cstanxpl on June 09, 2010, 18:14
New Marantz products.

Stereo and HT.

http://www.whathifi.com/News/BREAKING-NEWS-Live-from-the-Marantz-product-launch-2010-Portugal/
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: cstanxpl on June 11, 2010, 23:20
Marantz Brand Ambassador Ken Ishiwata talks KI Pearl Lite

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdadtN-sJuw[/youtube]
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: cstanxpl on June 15, 2010, 11:11
Now update with pictures.

http://community.whathifi.com/blogs/industry_insider/archive/2010/06/10/marantz-2010-from-budget-hi-fi-to-3d-ready-universal-blu-ray-players-the-full-range-with-pictures-and-prices.aspx

Looks like the Pearl Lite are the upgraded SA/PM8003.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: swing123 on June 15, 2010, 13:59
thanks for the effort in updating us.

Hmm, this KI Pearl Lite looks interesting, probably fill in the hole in between SA8003 and SA15S2?

UK retail price at GBP999 - hmm, going by the same price scaling for CD6003, SA8003, SA15S2 and etc between UK and Singapore, what do you think will be the likely price for this new babe when it is launched in Singapore?
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: cstanxpl on June 15, 2010, 22:11
No problem, as long as no one finds it irritating.  ;D

Take SA8003 =  £800 = S$680.

Seems like the Pearl Lite will be going for less than S$1K (finger crossed).
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Doggie Howser on June 15, 2010, 22:26
Comparing more expensive KI to my modded 8003, I'm sticking with my 8003 ;)
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: whyeme on June 16, 2010, 10:34
erm sorry can anyone here tell me how to find TS Lim?
contact numbers would be greatly appreciated
am thinking of modding my stock cd67se
thks  :)
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on June 17, 2010, 17:40
Do you find that the 8003 takes an inordinate amount of time to warm up?
I find that I need at least an hour before it gets 'ready'. If I have not used it for a few days, it takes even longer..
Comparing more expensive KI to my modded 8003, I'm sticking with my 8003 ;)
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Doggie Howser on June 17, 2010, 19:17
I never really power off the CDP :P

According to bro stealth, the Marantz uses a lot of discrete components. So perhaps these take longer to warm up.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: keithwwk on June 17, 2010, 20:24
hey ppl,

I am Marantz user as well. Beside CD17mk3, CD6000KI, I also have PM17mkiiKI and PM66KI.

I read somewhere the SA8003 player, when press "pause", the CD or SACD spinning inside the tray can create loud winding sound. Is this true? Any SA8003 owners noticed that?
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on June 17, 2010, 21:06
No issues with mine, cheers.

EDIT: in fact IMO the platform for the the Xyron thing is pretty decent. Better than the CD 12.3 used in the CD 63 series, which tends to jam after a a year or two.
hey ppl,

I am Marantz user as well. Beside CD17mk3, CD6000KI, I also have PM17mkiiKI and PM66KI.

I read somewhere the SA8003 player, when press "pause", the CD or SACD spinning inside the tray can create loud winding sound. Is this true? Any SA8003 owners noticed that?

Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Doggie Howser on June 17, 2010, 21:46
hey ppl,

I am Marantz user as well. Beside CD17mk3, CD6000KI, I also have PM17mkiiKI and PM66KI.

I read somewhere the SA8003 player, when press "pause", the CD or SACD spinning inside the tray can create loud winding sound. Is this true? Any SA8003 owners noticed that?


ah the power of google :)

there's ONE guy who apparently had this problem and he cross posted this in a few places (same post.. copied over) and somehow it's become gospel.

The 8003 is not silent in operation but I don't think it's any louder than the Oppo 83
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: cstanxpl on June 17, 2010, 22:22
When in pause, there is a slight spinning sound when you put your ear very near to it.

About 50 cm away, cannot hear it.

But I have to say that one of my SA8003 is slightly louder than the other.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: keithwwk on June 17, 2010, 22:30
Thanks guys for the feedbacks....I can put it back to my hunting list again....

Cheers~
Title: SACD 8003
Post by: petetherock on June 17, 2010, 22:51
Bro
Just some thoughts on it.
It is probably the most VFM mid-entry level SACD player with decent CD capabilities. The nearest rivals like the Rega Apollo cost almost twice more. (its not 800 GBP - about 600 street). So it is very tempting to put an all Marantz system together, but keep your eyes and ears open to the others.
I actually like the Rega too, but when they increased the price after winning the What Lo Fi award, that put me off the player a bit...
Somehow it is very hard to beat under 1k, and there are many mods for it to increase its "power".

One replacement I am thinking for my Mod SACD 8003 will be the Oppo BDP -83 Nuforce, which will cost almost 3 times more...

Thanks guys for the feedbacks....I can put it back to my hunting list again....

Cheers~
Title: Re: SACD 8003
Post by: keithwwk on June 18, 2010, 19:20
Bro
Just some thoughts on it.
It is probably the most VFM mid-entry level SACD player with decent CD capabilities. The nearest rivals like the Rega Apollo cost almost twice more. (its not 800 GBP - about 600 street). So it is very tempting to put an all Marantz system together, but keep your eyes and ears open to the others.
I actually like the Rega too, but when they increased the price after winning the What Lo Fi award, that put me off the player a bit...
Somehow it is very hard to beat under 1k, and there are many mods for it to increase its "power".

One replacement I am thinking for my Mod SACD 8003 will be the Oppo BDP -83 Nuforce, which will cost almost 3 times more...


Noted bro.

Cheers~
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Doggie Howser on June 20, 2010, 02:42
Review of the KI Pearl SACD player is in this month's stereophile mag. Shd be able to see it online in a few months if you don't have a subscription.

Highlights: tho the specs suggest it's lower than the 11S2, it sounds better. The KI takes away the syrupy and thick and warm sound of the 11S2 for a pacier and faster more detailed sound which the reviewer liked.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on June 20, 2010, 21:59
I sent you a pm on a demo bro, cheers. Let me know if you are keen to come over.
Noted bro.

Cheers~
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: lkypeter on June 20, 2010, 22:26
Review of the KI Pearl SACD player is in this month's stereophile mag. Shd be able to see it online in a few months if you don't have a subscription.

Highlights: tho the specs suggest it's lower than the 11S2, it sounds better. The KI takes away the syrupy and thick and warm sound of the 11S2 for a pacier and faster more detailed sound which the reviewer liked.

Would be interesting to read. I have the SA11S2 and it is beautiful sounding. No regrets.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Saycheese78 on June 25, 2010, 13:16
Hay guys

time to replace my super primitive 20 year old CD Player which does not even have a remote.

Any idea hows the difference between SA 8003 and CD 6003 minus the price and SA CD part?

My system is super duper entry and not going to upgrade cos the nightmare of me poking my father's tweeters 25 years ago is still fresh in my mind.  Cannot complain if junior does the same to me right?

Also wonder hows the effect when playing SA CD on a super budget system.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Doggie Howser on June 25, 2010, 13:40
Saw the insides of the 6003 vs the 8003. The 8003 has copper plated chassis and the components seem better.

But as I posted elsewhere, the 8003 has the Marantz warm sound signature. But a mod can cure that.

As for whether SACD difference is noticeable.. really gotta test it out yourself. It's not just equipment related but media and listener related. If you know what to look for, it may be more obvious if you don't what to listen out for.

FWIW, I think vinyl improvement is noticeable even on entry rig!! Ask House of Turntables for a demo..
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on June 25, 2010, 14:24
What is your system bro?

If you are replacing the entire system, I would put more money into the speakers, then the amp and finally the CD.

The 6003 to 8003 is an incremental increase, which is good value and allows you to forget about upgrading for a while. But if you settle for the 6003, then it is more like a replacement then an upgrade IMO.

Note that SACDs are not as common, and tend to be the "audiophile" kind of music. You won't find much pop and instead there is a lot of jazz, vocals or classicals. Don't get a CD player based on SACD alone, as DH has mentioned.

Also 2nd hand Rega Apollos are also available, and someone is selling a PM 8003 amp too.

That will give you plenty of value if the price is right.
Hay guys

time to replace my super primitive 20 year old CD Player which does not even have a remote.

Any idea hows the difference between SA 8003 and CD 6003 minus the price and SA CD part?

My system is super duper entry and not going to upgrade cos the nightmare of me poking my father's tweeters 25 years ago is still fresh in my mind.  Cannot complain if junior does the same to me right?

Also wonder hows the effect when playing SA CD on a super budget system.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Saycheese78 on June 25, 2010, 17:07
Yo Bro

My system is extremely basic.  Every time I went to new disc village and listen to the living voice, I need to spend 1 week cleaning my ears.  Even the Sonus Faber at gramaphone with long cables were miles ahead.

Yeah,, started with CA 340A and Mission speakers from you know who.  (try asking a non audio guy to spend >$1k very hard. thats why so low budget then).  However, implemented with proper speaker stands and belden cables.

Not going to change the speakers as  explained earlier, I believe in retribution. (real Story: when my dad remove his gauze in front of speaker, I like to poke the tweeter with my finger.  I told my wife.. she more hiong.. she remove the gauze herself to poke the tweeter.. arrggh super scared of retribution now!)

So now is matter of SACD or non SACD.  Yesh, I like Jazz, vocal, 2V1G, classical.  Seldom play pop, rock, metallic.  And also $680 vs $380

Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: snowy on July 10, 2010, 17:30
Comparison between SA 11S2 and 6003 playing red book cd - is the difference in sound quality great?  I always feel the difference between cd players is slight and thinking of buying the cheapo 6003.  Anyone can offer any advice?
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: aquarius on July 10, 2010, 21:52
Dunno abt the 6003 but the SA11S2 was way better than my earlier Marantz DV9500. 
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on July 11, 2010, 00:46
If you have auditioned the two and feel this way, then buy the cheaper one. Its that simple. You decide with your ears and your wallet.

Comparison between SA 11S2 and 6003 playing red book cd - is the difference in sound quality great?  I always feel the difference between cd players is slight and thinking of buying the cheapo 6003.  Anyone can offer any advice?
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: snowy on July 11, 2010, 09:52
If you have auditioned the two and feel this way, then buy the cheaper one. Its that simple. You decide with your ears and your wallet.


No, I have not auditioned the 2.  Hoping someone had done it in his home environment.  I once auditioned Cambridge C640, C740 and C840 and I couldn't tell the difference, probably becos the set-up used.  Or I just couldn't tell the difference!
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: cstanxpl on July 11, 2010, 16:22
SA/PM8004 from Marantz USA. (Might be the Pearl Lite in other countries).

Made in Japan.  ;D

http://us.marantz.com/Products/3223.asp#

http://us.marantz.com/Products/3224.asp#
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: cmw_kwl_6923 on July 13, 2010, 21:29
any different between PM8003 and Pm 8004? as i go true the manual spec only the PM 8004 with RMS certificated~~~~~! ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: navyseal on July 14, 2010, 18:18
SA KI Pearl and PM KI Pearl going for $2,500 each at Alpha Audio ;)
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Saycheese78 on July 14, 2010, 20:27
Audition CD 6003 and SA 8003

Stupid shop got 1 gigantic glass panel behind speakers (no curtains).  Left wall and front wall also glass. Wasted my time.

But still can tell the difference.  SA 8003 sound sweeter on normal CD but could be due to the stupid glass.

Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: knoxv on August 02, 2010, 18:19
SA/PM8004 from Marantz USA. (Might be the Pearl Lite in other countries).

Made in Japan.  ;D

http://us.marantz.com/Products/3223.asp#

http://us.marantz.com/Products/3224.asp#


are these available in Singapore? they said these will be launched in August.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: domho8 on August 11, 2010, 18:11
Called city electronics SA8003 no stocks, ask me check end of the month for SA8004 ;D
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: silverdub on September 15, 2010, 15:05
hi bros,

Can i please seek some speaker advice for my setup? I recently purchased a PM15S2 and i am using a CA740C cdp as the source (for now). I am looking at floorstanders due to a 1 year old at home, but can only place these about 8 inches from the back wall (max). My listening room is about 4 meters wide, so i will be sitting about 3 meters from the speaker. Music is mainly jazz, alot of rock and the occasional rap/R&B.

can you please give me an idea of what speakers I should audition for this setup? the source is bright and the amp is neutral - i guess i should avoid speakers with metal dome tweeters such as the Rx6s, but they look oh so lovely and sounded amazing in the showroom. Chanced upon a used set of GR20s and PMC GB1s which sounded great on its own, but not sure if it would fit my setup.

lugging my amp to adelphi would be ideal, but a slipped disc has forced me off carrying anything remotely close to an amps weight :(

thanks in advance for your advise.
 
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on September 15, 2010, 16:13
hi bros,

Can i please seek some speaker advice for my setup? I recently purchased a PM15S2 and i am using a CA740C cdp as the source (for now). I am looking at floorstanders due to a 1 year old at home, but can only place these about 8 inches from the back wall (max). My listening room is about 4 meters wide, so i will be sitting about 3 meters from the speaker. Music is mainly jazz, alot of rock and the occasional rap/R&B.

can you please give me an idea of what speakers I should audition for this setup? the source is bright and the amp is neutral - i guess i should avoid speakers with metal dome tweeters such as the Rx6s, but they look oh so lovely and sounded amazing in the showroom. Chanced upon a used set of GR20s and PMC GB1s which sounded great on its own, but not sure if it would fit my setup.

lugging my amp to adelphi would be ideal, but a slipped disc has forced me off carrying anything remotely close to an amps weight :(

thanks in advance for your advise.
 
From the examples you gave, I assume you have a budget of about 3k ?- its always good to give more info so we can give real suggestions.

I like the Spendors, the S 5e for example.
Otherwise the CM 7 from B/W is a friendly speaker that you should try.
I think you will want to stay away from MA.
Cheers.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: silverdub on September 15, 2010, 16:43
Hi Pete, thanks for your reply, yeah my budget upto about 2.5/3k thereabouts and I am looking at either new or 2nd hand, depending which suits my setup.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: jimi on September 15, 2010, 22:49
Silverdub bro,

if ur bright CDP is not ur preference then why not just concentrate on getting a speaker that u really like without worrying too much whether it matches the CDP (of course ur amp must be able to drive them well).
Then when u upgrade ur CDP you'll be more confident of getting the sound you want.

Otherwise you'll be forever trying to fiddle with power cords, cables, and other tweaks if the sound is not to ur liking. Just trying to save u some aggro. 

As u like jazz, then you might be looking for something that will not sound sibliant or too bright anyway. The MAs might sound exciting but they might be fatiguing To listen to in the long run. 

Will let the other bros chip in with recommendation as I'm not sure what's around at ur budget.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: silverdub on September 17, 2010, 15:53
hi bro Jimi, thanks for your reply and advise. its true man, ive been through the path of tweaking minor things and still didnt get the sound i wanted. i guess the synergy between the amp and speakers would matter the most at this stage.

ill audition both the speakers Pete mentioned, and let you guys know how im getting along. Quite happy about the advise to stay away from MAs, i was about to put some $ down for the Rx6s, but decided to seek the opinions of the experienced bros here first. You are right, having an exciting speaker would be nice for a while, but not relaxing after a long and hard day at work :)

Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Bongteo on September 27, 2010, 22:20
I saw in US Marantz website that they had revised the price downward to their reference series, not sure has our local price also revised to reflect the changes?
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: cstanxpl on November 08, 2010, 21:58
Marantz NA7004 review at WHF?

http://www.whathifi.com/Review/Marantz-NA7004/
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: domho8 on November 15, 2010, 21:02
Hi to Marantz owners

I got a chance to listen to KI Pearl Lite, courtesy of City Electronics. My 1st impression it was quite bright & rather harsh but the player just arrived and taken out for demo. 

When I switch to SA15S2, wa the difference was great, SA15S2 seems to be smoother and everything just sounds better.

The price for pearl lite $1150, SA15S2 $1750!!!

Marantz owners which one would you hoot.  ;D
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: cstanxpl on November 15, 2010, 23:36
Marantz owners which one would you hoot.  ;D

Neither.

Will hoot the KI Pearl instead. If still got new stock to hoot.

And ready cash. ;D
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: domho8 on November 16, 2010, 09:22
Neither.

Will hoot the KI Pearl instead. If still got new stock to hoot.

And ready cash. ;D

Hi cstanxpl

you heard the KI Pearl whats the significant character of this player. Tks  ;D
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Doggie Howser on November 16, 2010, 09:55
Hi to Marantz owners

I got a chance to listen to KI Pearl Lite, courtesy of City Electronics. My 1st impression it was quite bright & rather harsh but the player just arrived and taken out for demo. 

When I switch to SA15S2, wa the difference was great, SA15S2 seems to be smoother and everything just sounds better.

The price for pearl lite $1150, SA15S2 $1750!!!

Marantz owners which one would you hoot.  ;D

The SA15S2 should be compared to the original KI (not the Lite).

FWIW, the Pearl/KI series is designed/tweaked differently from the regular Marantz mainstream sound.

I have always thought the regular Marantz sound is warmer and smoother but as a result, isn't as dynamic/punchy as I'd like.

You should have a comparison between the KI Lite vs the SA8004 (the Marantz on which it it based on).

Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: domho8 on November 16, 2010, 09:57
The SA15S2 should be compared to the original KI (not the Lite).

FWIW, the Pearl/KI series is designed/tweaked differently from the regular Marantz mainstream sound.

I have always thought the regular Marantz sound is warmer and smoother but as a result, isn't as dynamic/punchy as I'd like.

You should have a comparison between the KI Lite vs the SA8004 (the Marantz on which it it based on).



Hi doggie tks.
Was told SA8004 is the ver of KI Pearl Lite, is this correct.  ;D
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Doggie Howser on November 16, 2010, 13:57
Ken wazisname :) didn't build the KIs completely from ground up.

He took two of Marantz's models as the basis of his modifications.

So while the SA8004 has similar guts as the KI Lite, the sound is different. I believe the regular KI Pearl is built of the 14 model in the Reference series? If you liked the sound of the 15S2, you might find the SA8004 closer to what you like. For a fraction of the price too.

Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: domho8 on November 16, 2010, 17:46
Ken wazisname :) didn't build the KIs completely from ground up.

He took two of Marantz's models as the basis of his modifications.

So while the SA8004 has similar guts as the KI Lite, the sound is different. I believe the regular KI Pearl is built of the 14 model in the Reference series? If you liked the sound of the 15S2, you might find the SA8004 closer to what you like. For a fraction of the price too.



From my recollection the Pearl Lite does not sound warm, in fact I was surprised it was quite forward sounding.  ;D
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: cstanxpl on November 17, 2010, 09:29
Hi cstanxpl

you heard the KI Pearl whats the significant character of this player. Tks  ;D

Hi domho8.

No chance to hear the KI pearl nor the lite yet.

Will choose the KI Pearl cause only limited production mah.

Heard the resell value also high.  ;)

Any way, now got new target (other brand) already.  ;D
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Doggie Howser on November 17, 2010, 09:41
Sorry it wasn't clear. What I meant was the regular marantz range is warm. It's the KI range that tweaks the base models towards detail and dynamics.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: bigbird on November 22, 2010, 06:59
Hi to Marantz owners

I got a chance to listen to KI Pearl Lite, courtesy of City Electronics. My 1st impression it was quite bright & rather harsh but the player just arrived and taken out for demo. 

When I switch to SA15S2, wa the difference was great, SA15S2 seems to be smoother and everything just sounds better.

The price for pearl lite $1150, SA15S2 $1750!!!

Marantz owners which one would you hoot.  ;D

Any idea if City Electronics allows audition for the SA15S2? I will get this by mid-Dec after getting my bonus and also if it can perform better than my full mod Marantz CD63SE. Initially thinking of Oppo 83SE , but not really impressed after the the short audition. My main purpose is to have the SACD or else I will be keeping my CD63SE.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: cstanxpl on November 22, 2010, 16:50
I'm sure the SA15S2 will perform better than the CD63SE.

But try to hear the SA8003/8004/KI Pearl lite too when you are at CE.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: domho8 on November 22, 2010, 19:36
Any idea if City Electronics allows audition for the SA15S2? I will get this by mid-Dec after getting my bonus and also if it can perform better than my full mod Marantz CD63SE. Initially thinking of Oppo 83SE , but not really impressed after the the short audition. My main purpose is to have the SACD or else I will be keeping my CD63SE.

Hi Bigbird, I auditioned the SA15S2 with my buddy and he bought it.
IMHO I would rather step into City electronics anytime than elsewhere ;D
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Astronaut on May 21, 2011, 06:52
Hi, I am new there, thinking of owning a Good CD player. Budget around RM3K to RM4K .

Can Marantz SA15S2, KL Pearl Lite, KL Pearl play "HDCD" ? And is it worth it to own a SACD player that has no multi-channel output?

This will be the first piece of equipment that I am going to purchase for my audio set-up. Thanks.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Bongteo on May 21, 2011, 13:00
Hi, I am new there, thinking of owning a Good CD player. Budget around RM3K to RM4K .

Can Marantz SA15S2, KL Pearl Lite, KL Pearl play "HDCD" ? And is it worth it to own a SACD player that has no multi-channel output?

This will be the first piece of equipment that I am going to purchase for my audio set-up. Thanks.

SA15s2 not able to play HDCD as explain by Marantz before, they said becos they would need to re-route the signal if HDCD is enable and therefor the philosophy of straight signal is lost, that's why they took out the HDCD capability. I also like you would love to have HDCD capability in SA15s2.

Regarding multi-channel output, it depends on how important is this to you, many would find this not important becos the cost to setup a very good 5.1 system is too costly, thats why many just use universal bluray/dvd player to send signal to an avr by a HDMI cable and let avr decode.

SA15s2 cost around $1.8k+ SGD here.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: dane on May 21, 2011, 13:14
Anyone knows is the SA-7S1 plays HDCD code? I have a few HDCD and they sound great, but not sure if being played as HDCD or regular..
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: JayT on May 21, 2011, 13:23
Read on some other forum that apparently it doesn't.

"Late to the party...but Vote 3 for me. My main digital playback device, the Marantz SA-7S1 doesn't decode HDCD. I wish it did, but it doesn't, and I love the "regular" CD and SACD playback so much I wasn't about to kick it to the curb over that.

I use my Denon DVD-3910 for proper playback of HDCD encoded discs. It's nowhere near the CD/SACD player that the SA-7S1 is, but for HDCDs, I have A/B'd the two and definitely prefer the sound on the Denon, you can definitely hear the difference in dynamic range and the high end especially is much more pleasing/natural sounding. I'm always amazed when people say that the think HDCDs sound just as good when played back on a non-HDCD decoding machine. It's not a subtle difference."

Interesting bit on how he thinks the dvd player does a decent job. Something to experiment I guess.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Octave on May 21, 2011, 13:43
SA15s2 not able to play HDCD as explain by Marantz before, they said becos they would need to re-route the signal if HDCD is enable and therefor the philosophy of straight signal is lost, that's why they took out the HDCD capability. I also like you would love to have HDCD capability in SA15s2.

Regarding multi-channel output, it depends on how important is this to you, many would find this not important becos the cost to setup a very good 5.1 system is too costly, thats why many just use universal bluray/dvd player to send signal to an avr by a HDMI cable and let avr decode.

SA15s2 cost around $1.8k+ SGD here.
I think Kec offer better price with cash
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Astronaut on May 22, 2011, 14:53
From the information that I gathered in this thread, Kl Pearl versions are tight and bright, do not carry the Warmist Signature of other Marantz players have.

Okay, let say i like the warm signature of Marantz player, between SA11S2 and SA15S2, which one is more worthy to own? or neither? Instead, I should get other brands which are Universal Players?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: lkypeter on May 27, 2011, 18:33
I have the SA11S2 and previously the SA8400CD. Feature wise, the SA15S2 has more features but the SA11S2 hs the signature warm sound. Cheers,,, Pete
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: fenger on May 28, 2011, 23:23
Is there any duty free shop at the airport selling Marantz stuff? I want to get the NA7004 duty free and take it out of Singapore. Also, what is the cheapest price for the NA7004 and where ?
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: dane on May 28, 2011, 23:47
NA7004 is S$650. try the usual shops such kec, alpha, city.. dont think tax free at changi is an option.
 
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: annapurna on May 29, 2011, 01:35
A question to Marantz SA7S1 user.  Does anyone use the DCS U Clock with the SA7S1?  Was at HER and was told that a number of users are using the SA7 with the U Clock and the sound quality is up by a level.  How is the connection done between the SA7S1 and U Clock?
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: dane on May 29, 2011, 02:06
I dont use clock, but the sa-7 has bnc output to connect to ext clock.
Not sure if that is what u are asking..
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: annapurna on May 29, 2011, 17:04
I dont use clock, but the sa-7 has bnc output to connect to ext clock.
Not sure if that is what u are asking..

Hi Dane, thank you for the answers.  Also wondering whether you have tried or heard the SA7S1 with the U Clock? 
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: fenger on May 29, 2011, 22:46
NA7004 is S$650. try the usual shops such kec, alpha, city.. dont think tax free at changi is an option.

Thanks. Bought it from City Audio for S$650. alpha initial quote was $890 and then settle for $700 firm.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: dane on May 30, 2011, 10:28
Thanks. Bought it from City Audio for S$650. alpha initial quote was $890 and then settle for $700 firm.

I am curious how track selection/navigation and sound quality is when playing straght off a hdd or network. how doyou use the NA7004?
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: dane on May 30, 2011, 12:23
Hi Dane, thank you for the answers.  Also wondering whether you have tried or heard the SA7S1 with the U Clock? 

No, I havent tried any ext clock. when I got the SA-7 it was already at the high range of what I would consider spending on a cdp and I am quite happy with the sound as it is.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: annapurna on May 30, 2011, 12:50
No, I havent tried any ext clock. when I got the SA-7 it was already at the high range of what I would consider spending on a cdp and I am quite happy with the sound as it is.

Hi Dane,  thank you.  I am now exploring ideas for a replacement SACD player and looking at SA7 and maybe the new replacement that would enable a external clock. 
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: fenger on May 30, 2011, 22:23
I am curious how track selection/navigation and sound quality is when playing straght off a hdd or network. how doyou use the NA7004?

I have to wait for another week before it arrives in Australia. Will let you know then. I am going to play music files stored in PC or NAS.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Doggie Howser on June 05, 2011, 23:40
My father in law wanted to replace our old NAD analog tuner and we figured we might as well get DAB and Internet radio as well. Originally was going for the NAD media tuner. But it's still not in stock yet.

I didn't realize the NA7004 was pretty much the same spec. I had thought it was just a SA7004 with the disc player removed, and with some network media player added. Hadn't realized it also did DAB and FM/AM tuner, as well as internet radio. So ended up getting the Marantz equivalent and it's pretty amazing.

It can work as an iPod digital transport ala Wadia and Onkyo, output via coax or toslink.

It can work as a DAC with coax optical and USB input.

It can work as
- an analog FM/AM radio
- a DAB radio
- Internet radio

It can work as a basic PnP streamer for music and is Windows 7 certified.

It can play media off USB (same one used to hook up to iPod via iPod sync cable which isn't provided)

Just finished setting up the NA7004.

The complication was mainly due to the Ethernet over Power adaptors I got this afternoon. They were working fine earlier and I even tested the "wifi" extender feature.I thought my NA7004 was busted. But after recycling power on the Ethernet/Power devices. the NA7004 had no problems connecting to the network.

I tested FM then DAB then Internet radio. Still think DAB is noticeably clearer and crisper. But then again, your choices are more limited.

I used Orb to set up a PnP server and music streamed perfectly from my PC in the other room.

Not the last word in fidelity but as an all in one device, it's pretty damn nifty.

ps I couldn't get the Airplay feature to work though. They prompted me to update but refused to upgrade it when I pressed Enter.

Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: dane on June 06, 2011, 00:10
dh - for airplay i think you need to pay $65 to D&M to get a code to activate it.
I have been considering the NA7004 as a simple way to play straight from ext hdd or via ethernet or airplay and curious to hear how it works and sound this way. I did a comparison of the dac with CDQ at the shop next to Dynaudio, but was not possible to judge as the Dali speakers and the audiolab int amp was so thin sounding so i think every component would sound identical.

the radio features are a plus, but of course worth to keep in mind most of modern AVR has almost all the same functions as the NA7004, so if you have an AVR, it is limited what the NA7004 can add unless the dac is substantially better than in AVR.

dh, will be happy to hear if you get a chance to compare dac in the NA with the CDQ and also how easy it is to navigate if playing straight off an ext hdd. note there is an iphone/ipad app to remote it.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Doggie Howser on June 06, 2011, 13:21
The point here is that this device is not meant to be a replacement for an AVR, but a way to add similar features to a 2 channel system.

Haven't done any external HDD stuff, just streaming stuff off my PC running Orb server (uPNP)
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: fenger on June 08, 2011, 23:08
I have now played with the NA7004 for a day and have tried most features to check if the unit is in anyway faulty. I have not paid for the airplay option so I cannot test that yet.

Without DLNA and airplay, the media server cannot play any music. I have a PlayonHD unit on my network with music files. The PlayonHD unit is uPnP but it does not support DLNA and the Marantz cannot see the unit. I have to use a computer as a DLNA server.

The DAB+, FM and AM tuner each has it's own antenna input. I have an outdoor UHF/VHF/FM antenna and a wall socket. I normally use that socket for TV. Now I have to somehow split the connection 3 ways, one for TV, one for DAB and one for FM, not to mention they are a mix of PAL and F-type connections. The FM port on the unit is a PAL plug and not PAL socket. This is very unusual and not logical and that means a trip to the shops for an adaptor.

Firmware update takes a long time and I wonder how big the firmware is.

The feature I really wanted to test is the ability to display simplified Chinese characters and that turns out okay. Haven't tried traditional Chinese characters yet but will do that when I find the right files.

The unit looks good and so far I am very happy. As for the sound, I haven't really compared it with others but first impression is pretty okay.

Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: whyeme on June 12, 2011, 02:03
Brought my old old workhorse marantz CD67SE to TS Lim's home to change the tray open/close plastic gear which had broken to bits (really chui). Changed to a 'lifetime' metal alloy gear, and i was assured there will never be anymore problems with the opening and closing of the tray. Yay!  ;D

Any bros here still using this old cd player?

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-5vBVf700zp8/TfOswF9dBPI/AAAAAAAAAbs/8dPiP7ElG6U/s1600/rsz_11_june_2011_001.jpg)
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: big bad wolf on June 20, 2011, 13:12
calling all owner of SA 11S2 or SA 15S2 cd player here.

need advice on how good is the thing ?  do you have problem with the plastic tray ?

thanks.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: cstanxpl on August 03, 2011, 07:44
The new PM6004 is made in Japan.

Marantz seems to be shifting the production of their stereo product (one by one) back to Japan.

http://www.hifigear.co.uk/media/uploads/Marantz%20PM6004.pdf
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Mclairs on August 03, 2011, 14:52
Hi All,

My uncle just passed me his faulty old av receiver amp. Marantz SR-73.

Actual problem:

1) Power on, and after few seconds went off by itself.

As i'm very new to this sound systems. i was wondering whether is it worth it to repair? Adrian from memorylane told me its should be around $80-$200. but its not confirmed until i bring down the set.

If i would to repair the set, i would prefer to setup maybe 1 pair of speakers as a start. May i know what kind of speakers are good for clarity and bass?
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on August 04, 2011, 07:41
Hi All,

My uncle just passed me his faulty old av receiver amp. Marantz SR-73.

Actual problem:

1) Power on, and after few seconds went off by itself.

As i'm very new to this sound systems. i was wondering whether is it worth it to repair? Adrian from memorylane told me its should be around $80-$200. but its not confirmed until i bring down the set.

If i would to repair the set, i would prefer to setup maybe 1 pair of speakers as a start. May i know what kind of speakers are good for clarity and bass?

Welcome to XP bro

This actually belongs more in the HT planet.

See the stickies there and read the thread on how to audition and buy.

You should give more info for others to consider helping you... for example something really basic like BUDGET?

The SR 73 could just have capacitor issues given it's age. Or get a new stereo amp eg the 5003/5004 for a few hundred, add a 2nd hand pair of speakers from this forum and a CD player and you can get a setup for under 1k.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Mclairs on August 07, 2011, 11:47
Welcome to XP bro

This actually belongs more in the HT planet.

See the stickies there and read the thread on how to audition and buy.

You should give more info for others to consider helping you... for example something really basic like BUDGET?

The SR 73 could just have capacitor issues given it's age. Or get a new stereo amp eg the 5003/5004 for a few hundred, add a 2nd hand pair of speakers from this forum and a CD player and you can get a setup for under 1k.

Thanks bro. Prefer to keep the cost as low as possible as my ears is not as "tok-kong" like many bros here..still very new to tis hobby. so can't differentiate which one has the best clarity, which one give the best bass. LOL.

Budget wise, i would prefer to keep below $500 for a pair of speakers.. no need subwoofer.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: schnauzerpck on August 08, 2011, 07:09
Hi anyone know how much is the marantz cdp 6003 cost? Thxs
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: BTW on August 08, 2011, 07:20
Got mine for $380.... using it as a Transport... value for money CD player.... :)

Hi anyone know how much is the marantz cdp 6003 cost? Thxs
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Summer Jazz on August 08, 2011, 22:34
What about the price of SA8004?
Seems like it has more features than SA8003. But the SA8003 seems more solid built.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: aquarius on August 09, 2011, 00:09
calling all owner of SA 11S2 or SA 15S2 cd player here.

need advice on how good is the thing ?  do you have problem with the plastic tray ?

thanks.

The SA11S2 has a metal tray.  After almost 4 years no problems so far.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: kalibur on August 09, 2011, 00:13
The SA11S2 has a metal tray.  After almost 4 years no problems so far.

At first glance it does look like plastic, until you look at the bottom. Just curious, what filter do you use for your SA11S2?

Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: domho8 on August 09, 2011, 19:48
Any bros here knows where still sell the SA8003, pls let me know. tks.  ;D
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: schnauzerpck on August 12, 2011, 07:16
$380 buy from where? Thxs u
Got mine for $380.... using it as a Transport... value for money CD player.... :)
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: BTW on August 12, 2011, 07:30
Can't remember name of shop... it's in basement Adelphi.

$380 buy from where? Thxs u
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: kalibur on August 12, 2011, 07:57
Is the shop called Seng Heng?
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: BTW on August 12, 2011, 08:15
Yes, that's the one.... :)

Is the shop called Seng Heng?
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Summer Jazz on August 12, 2011, 08:41
Does KEC still sell Marantz CDP & amp at good price?
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: schnauzerpck on August 12, 2011, 13:22
Okie thxs
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: domho8 on August 12, 2011, 21:55
Was at Seng Heng today with a fren, had a listen to CD5004, than CD6000 OSE, KI Pearl Lite lastl the KI PEARL.
It was a very enjoyable event.  ;D

I would say Mr Lee's services was very gd & friendly.  ;D
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: oomph on August 12, 2011, 22:15
KI Pearl has a very very good built in headphone section.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: jtat on August 12, 2011, 23:49
Can share how much is the KI Pearl?
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: domho8 on August 12, 2011, 23:55
Can share how much is the KI Pearl?

Should be around 2.5k maybe less abit, go Seng Heng hv a listen to it.
IMHO v well built machine, sounds gd also.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: amina on August 13, 2011, 01:07
Heard that Marantz produced only 500 sets of KI Pearl and once the current stock finished will no longer be available..
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: cstanxpl on August 13, 2011, 08:08
Heard that Marantz produced only 500 sets of KI Pearl and once the current stock finished will no longer be available..

I am actually surprised that the KI Pearl is still available new for sales.

Thought stocks would have finished some time ago.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: amina on August 13, 2011, 11:06
I am actually surprised that the KI Pearl is still available new for sales.

Thought stocks would have finished some time ago.

I have exactly the same question in my mind. Seeket mentioned that it could be due to that KI model is not popular in western countries, most stocks have been redirected to hk and here.  This is just hearsay, not sure how true it is...
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Doggie Howser on August 13, 2011, 11:18
I can think of a few ideas:
a. the KI model is based off a "low-ish" end model but his tweaks pushed it to a much higher price point that competes against a higher "spec-ed" model (SA11S2) which has balanced inputs
b. the KI model tweaks the sound which doesn't appeal as much to traditional Marantz owners (not as warm as the Marantz signature house sound).

I suspect if he'd started off with an 11S2 and didn't inflate the price as much it might have gotten better traction.

FWIW, I actually do like HIS tweaks more than the Marantz house sound.

Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: domho8 on August 13, 2011, 11:57
I can think of a few ideas:
a. the KI model is based off a "low-ish" end model but his tweaks pushed it to a much higher price point that competes against a higher "spec-ed" model (SA11S2) which has balanced inputs
b. the KI model tweaks the sound which doesn't appeal as much to traditional Marantz owners (not as warm as the Marantz signature house sound).

I suspect if he'd started off with an 11S2 and didn't inflate the price as much it might have gotten better traction.

FWIW, I actually do like HIS tweaks more than the Marantz house sound.



If the KI Pearl was prized below S$2k, think would hv gone by now.
I heard it yest, the KI Pearl gives a very full bodied presentation, the extensions were also gd IMHO.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: cstanxpl on August 13, 2011, 12:50
Nearly bought the KI Pearl and amp 2 or 3 years ago.

They were priced at $2500 each then.

Got my bonus, but could not bear to buy it then.  :-\

Was using the SA8003 and PM8003 then.

Thought it will be a worthwhile upgrade.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: kalow on September 12, 2011, 01:00
looking to get NA7004 in silver gold colour.

however all the shops i called only have black.

pls suggest a shop where silver gold NA7004 might be available

thanks
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: audiosg on June 06, 2012, 11:51
New 11 series (http://www.whathifi.com/news/high-end-2012-marantz-plans-to-enter-high-end-streaming-arena-with-%E2%82%AC2999-na-11s1),any comments :D

Na11S1
(http://www.whathifi.com/sites/whathifi.com/files/images/marantz/marantz.NA11S1.jpg)

SA11S3
(http://www.whathifi.com/sites/whathifi.com/files/images/marantz/marantz_sa11s3.jpg)

PM11S3
(http://www.whathifi.com/sites/whathifi.com/files/images/marantz/marantz_PM11S3.jpg)

(http://www.whathifi.com/sites/whathifi.com/files/images/marantz/marantz_11S3_system.jpg)
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on June 06, 2012, 22:32
Nice.. price?
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Spidey3107 on June 21, 2012, 13:21
Hi Guys,

I apologise if this is OT.

Been thinking about getting a new CDP for quite some time; am considering either the Audiolab 8200CD or the SA KI-Pearl Lite.

Cant decide:
The 8200CD has a good DAC function, but the Pearl Lite can play SACD and looks more sturdy in terms of construction.

Any opinion?

Update: Got the 8200CD after some deliberation.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: lkypeter on June 28, 2012, 10:54
I have the SA11S2 and it is my second Marantz SACD/CD player. I love their warm sound. Mostly playing classical music in my case. How are you enjoying the 8200CD
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Spidey3107 on June 29, 2012, 00:47
I have the SA11S2 and it is my second Marantz SACD/CD player. I love their warm sound. Mostly playing classical music in my case. How are you enjoying the 8200CD

The word 'revelation' comes to mind. It's a case of one doesn't know what he's been missing. But to be fair, this is coming from a comparison with a 20 year old mid hifi system :)
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: vikramtiwary on July 04, 2012, 20:10
Hi Bro's,


                 I recently got a Marantz SA15 S1 used for myself. When i brought it home i decided to put it up against my dads, CD63 KI, Somehow the older 63 KI sounded much smoother and more musical! Any opinions on this? I thought the SA15 S1 is supposed to be a much better reference standard player?
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Colossus on July 05, 2012, 12:41
If that's true, then I could save a lot of $$. Is that a stock CD63 KI or modded?
I think this comparison is not a surprise, given the CD63 KI still has loyal followers like me.

Hi Bro's,


                 I recently got a Marantz SA15 S1 used for myself. When i brought it home i decided to put it up against my dads, CD63 KI, Somehow the older 63 KI sounded much smoother and more musical! Any opinions on this? I thought the SA15 S1 is supposed to be a much better reference standard player?
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: greenhorn on July 05, 2012, 13:01
The CD63KI is well known for its musicality.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: vikramtiwary on July 05, 2012, 18:36
If that's true, then I could save a lot of $$. Is that a stock CD63 KI or modded?
I think this comparison is not a surprise, given the CD63 KI still has loyal followers like me.
My CD63 KI is totally stock!
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: bigbird on September 06, 2012, 09:41
Has anyone seen the SA11S3 in Singapore? Called City Electronic and been told they not selling yet.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: milk_vanilla on September 06, 2012, 15:32
Check with Alpha Audio got limited stock,

ballkpark @ 6.9 K, would it be reasonable pricing?
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: jim on September 06, 2012, 17:07
 :o :o Double the price of 11S2 :o :o
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: dXter on September 06, 2012, 17:25
Wah seh so expensive. :'(
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: meatballz on September 06, 2012, 18:05
$6900. pk.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on September 06, 2012, 18:06
It seems Marantz is beginning to realise the local price is pretty low...
Title: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Doggie Howser on September 06, 2012, 18:56
I think it was only the MIC stuff that was cheaper. The Japanese ones have always been pricier. And I think this new model is abt 1k higher than the old one?
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Goldberg on September 06, 2012, 19:43
Check with Alpha Audio got limited stock,

ballkpark @ 6.9 K, would it be reasonable pricing?

Just saw a few boxes of Marantz SA11S3 at Jay Audio. Was told after discount is $5.6k only leh.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: milk_vanilla on September 07, 2012, 08:31
Just saw a few boxes of Marantz SA11S3 at Jay Audio. Was told after discount is $5.6k only leh.

Sounds Much better!
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: DJQ on September 07, 2012, 08:52
Now the trend is having USB input to utilize the DAC inside the CDP. Abit high at $5.6k even.
Only the flagship model got this additional feature?
Title: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Doggie Howser on September 07, 2012, 08:59
Nope. The KI Lite and 8004 also had it.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on September 12, 2012, 06:32
(http://www.hometheater.com/images/090712marantz.jpg)

Seen at CEDIA:

Quote
See that USB port on the back of the Marantz SA-11S3 disc player? The advent of computer-worthy USB ports on audio products is a development whose importance can't be overstated. True, there are a lot of great outboard DACs on the market, with more to come—but what if you don't want that extra box and power cable in your rack? One option is to build the DAC into another product such as the Pioneer SC-68 surround receiver, or this Marantz SACD/CD player. Incidentally, it does not do Blu-ray or DVD. The Burr-Brown DAC has resolution of 192/24. Build quality is typically superb, with copper substituting for aluminum in the back panel and some internal parts. Price is $4000. 
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: milk_vanilla on September 12, 2012, 07:57
Looks gorgeous isn't it?  :o

Technically paper speaking, do you guys know if any other players brand that adopting equivalent dac model similar this?
(burr brown)
I never heard how burr brown sonic like honestly.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Laughing on September 12, 2012, 08:31
wow.. so who is getting or already bought the 11S3?

at $5.6K, what other options does the buyer has?

cheers
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: badbad2000 on September 12, 2012, 14:37
So far I still not hear any USB digital input implementation (Even the async)  is as good as the coaxial input. Coaxial/BNC just better than the SPDIF and USB. Unless you into the short distance of I2S which I have not try before.

Dont take the USB is part of necessary feature. At the end, you may not even bother to use it. You can easily get a device like hi-face to have a coaxial output from the pc.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on October 27, 2012, 10:14
Is it still possible to get a PM-KI Pearl-lite or Pearl amp now?
Any suggested places?

Thanks
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: cstanxpl on October 27, 2012, 12:04
City electronic still has the Pearl Lite.

Quoted S$1200 with gst.

Pearl you try AA.

AA has the Pearl displayed at their showroom.

Not sure if 2nd hand or new stock they have.

If you checked and is new stock, let me know the price for the Pearl amp...thanks.  :)
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on November 08, 2012, 15:47
Went to AA, 1200 for lite, no Pearl...
City electronic still has the Pearl Lite.

Quoted S$1200 with gst.

Pearl you try AA.

AA has the Pearl displayed at their showroom.

Not sure if 2nd hand or new stock they have.

If you checked and is new stock, let me know the price for the Pearl amp...thanks.  :)
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: cstanxpl on November 08, 2012, 19:19
Went to AA, 1200 for lite, no Pearl...

OK, should be already no more new stock.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on November 08, 2012, 19:20
You can consider the 15 S2 LE for 2700?
OK, should be already no more new stock.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: cstanxpl on November 08, 2012, 20:18
You can consider the 15 S2 LE for 2700?

I think I may be getting the Pearl-Lite instead when funds allow.

Thanks. :)

Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: aquarius on November 08, 2012, 23:45
Has anyone compared the 11S3 with the 11S2?

My 11S2 has been serving me very well, and not sure if I should even consider upgrading to the 11S3.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on November 09, 2012, 09:30
wow.. so who is getting or already bought the 11S3?

at $5.6K, what other options does the buyer has?

cheers
Consider the MF M6i for more drive and dynamics.. 200w into 8ohms, 400 into 4ohms, but also reasonably warm, and drives tough speakers well.
Should be under 6k
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: cstanxpl on November 22, 2012, 14:44
Hi guys, is there any benefit in using the SA-KI Pearl Lite as a transport over the CD6004?

Will be connecting to ext DAC via coaxial.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: lkypeter on November 24, 2012, 13:20
Same here. Have a sa11S2 for sacd and cd. Xlr to pre amp

Wgvfffc
Has anyone compared the 11S3 with the 11S2?

My 11S2 has been serving me very well, and not sure if I should even consider upgrading to the 11S3.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Doggie Howser on November 24, 2012, 13:22
peter, off topic a bit. I remember you had a big improvement when you moved from the old Modwright 9.x series to the STPSE. I think a big reason could be because you were moving from a SE design (the 9.x was single ended) vs the fully balanced design of the STP-SE.

Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: jerome_the_lang on November 24, 2012, 17:59
Marantz balanced out creates sonic problems....
Only solution is to modify XLR cable at the source.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: jimi on November 24, 2012, 23:59
Marantz balanced out creates sonic problems....
Only solution is to modify XLR cable at the source.

As preamps can also do this with a flick of a switch
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: jerome_the_lang on November 25, 2012, 00:20
As preamps can also do this with a flick of a switch

You have no idea.
aquarius knows this. He can advise what needs to be done.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: aquarius on November 25, 2012, 00:39
You have no idea.
aquarius knows this. He can advise what needs to be done.

Yep, the hot and neutral pins of my SA11S2 balanced outputs are reversed, apparently like all Marantz balanced outputs.  There is a reverse polarity switch but it seems to be more for recordings than reversing the polarity of the balanced outputs.

What I did was to reverse the hot and neutral pins of the interconnect at the source end.  Sounds cleaner.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on January 04, 2013, 17:30
That's a little surprising.
What cables are you using and how long have you run it in?
If you just bought it, give it some time.
Very few people have said it is bright.
Sell it to me if you don't like it ...
I just bought the Marantz PM-KI Pearl Lite amp pairing it with Tannoy Mercury V1 and Revolution DC6 bookshelf speakers.
I find it on the bright side and Music not engaging.
Still thinking of getting Marantz CD player.
I am more of a DAC user via pc as source.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: cstanxpl on January 04, 2013, 17:41
I just bought the Marantz PM-KI Pearl Lite amp pairing it with Tannoy Mercury V1 and Revolution DC6 bookshelf speakers.
I find it on the bright side and Music not engaging.
Still thinking of getting Marantz CD player.
I am more of a DAC user via pc as source.

The PM-KI Pearl Lite requires a long time to run in.

Give it some time before deciding the next step.

Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: DJQ on January 04, 2013, 23:50
I just bought the Marantz PM-KI Pearl Lite amp pairing it with Tannoy Mercury V1 and Revolution DC6 bookshelf speakers.
I find it on the bright side and Music not engaging.
Still thinking of getting Marantz CD player.
I am more of a DAC user via pc as source.
get a power cord with gold plating or copper/bronze plug. it should tweak away the brightness tint away. gold plated plugs usually gives a slight warm feel to the sound.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: lkypeter on January 05, 2013, 03:02
Yep, the hot and neutral pins of my SA11S2 balanced outputs are reversed, apparently like all Marantz balanced outputs.  There is a reverse polarity switch but it seems to be more for recordings than reversing the polarity of the balanced outputs.

What I did was to reverse the hot and neutral pins of the interconnect at the source end.  Sounds cleaner.
Sharks. I have a marantz sa11S2 on xlr and did not know it is reversed. My cables are factory terminated; how to reverse it?
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: sarsi on January 05, 2013, 11:41
Actually, the balanced pin-out is printed on the back of the unit just beside the balanced connectors, pin 1-ground, 2-cold and 3-hot (for Marantz). I converted a pair of my Kimber Silver Streak, with the help of my friend, with Viablue XLR (bought from Audio Iconic) with Kimber silver solder. I preferred Viablue over Neutrik because they are 24 carat gold plated, probably Neutrik may have gold plated ones but I couldn't find any.

http://www.viablue.de/com/xlr_jacks_t6s.shtml (http://www.viablue.de/com/xlr_jacks_t6s.shtml)

Sharks. I have a marantz sa11S2 on xlr and did not know it is reversed. My cables are factory terminated; how to reverse it?
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: lkypeter on January 05, 2013, 21:26
Actually, the balanced pin-out is printed on the back of the unit just beside the balanced connectors, pin 1-ground, 2-cold and 3-hot (for Marantz). I converted a pair of my Kimber Silver Streak, with the help of my friend, with Viablue XLR (bought from Audio Iconic) with Kimber silver solder. I preferred Viablue over Neutrik because they are 24 carat gold plated, probably Neutrik may have gold plated ones but I couldn't find any.

http://www.viablue.de/com/xlr_jacks_t6s.shtml (http://www.viablue.de/com/xlr_jacks_t6s.shtml)

I am wondering if putting on the invert phase on sa11s2 will cure the problem? 
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: AndrewC on January 05, 2013, 21:43
I am wondering if putting on the invert phase on sa11s2 will cure the problem?

Peter, yes you absolutely can... See page 23 of the User Manual;
http://us.marantz.com/DocumentMaster/US/DFU_SA-11S2_Final_eng.pdf (http://us.marantz.com/DocumentMaster/US/DFU_SA-11S2_Final_eng.pdf)

Quote
By digitally processing audio signals read by this unit, it is possible to perform phase inversion without changing the tone quality.
Inverted signals are output from the UNBALANCED output connector, and the BALANCED output connector interchanges between HOT and COLD signals.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Doggie Howser on January 05, 2013, 23:15
I wonder if this needs to be done on their new AV8801 AVR as well? :(
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: AndrewC on January 06, 2013, 00:27
I wonder if this needs to be done on their new AV8801 AVR as well? :(

Nah… you're fine, the AV8801 appears to be designed with the Balanced/XLR pin out in accordance with the Industry standard EIA RS297-A specs, i.e. pin 2 hot.

Pages 16 and 31; http://us.marantz.com/DocumentMaster/US/AV8801U_ENG_UG_CD-ROM_v00.zip (http://us.marantz.com/DocumentMaster/US/AV8801U_ENG_UG_CD-ROM_v00.zip)
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: aquarius on January 06, 2013, 00:54
Peter, yes you absolutely can... See page 23 of the User Manual;
http://us.marantz.com/DocumentMaster/US/DFU_SA-11S2_Final_eng.pdf (http://us.marantz.com/DocumentMaster/US/DFU_SA-11S2_Final_eng.pdf)


I had tried using the phase invert switch - not much difference.  So I had the IC's output end re-soldered to reverse it.  Pretty drastic but sounds cleaner at the expense of the IC no longer having the original factory soldering.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: deaf.eye on January 08, 2013, 13:55
Sonically, the SA-11S3 sounds much better than the SA-11S2, with both plyaing thru the same downstream equipment & same room.
What's more, the S3 (on RCA out) sounded much better than the S2 (on XLR out).
Definitely the S3 is a much better player to me, and the sonic difference is easily heard. No need to strain ears to hear differences.
;)
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Luv4nature on January 08, 2013, 19:35
But with +$2K premium over the previous model, better be a lot better :)
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: AndrewC on January 08, 2013, 20:02
I had tried using the phase invert switch - not much difference.  So I had the IC's output end re-soldered to reverse it.  Pretty drastic but sounds cleaner at the expense of the IC no longer having the original factory soldering.

Yeah, there could be all sorts of other effects at play I guess… it's always tricky when the manufacturers says you shouldn't hear a difference but you do… Ultimately though, just stick with whatever works for you sonically… ;)
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: lkypeter on January 10, 2013, 00:55
Peter, yes you absolutely can... See page 23 of the User Manual;
http://us.marantz.com/DocumentMaster/US/DFU_SA-11S2_Final_eng.pdf (http://us.marantz.com/DocumentMaster/US/DFU_SA-11S2_Final_eng.pdf)

Thanks Andrew,
I would stick to using the phase invert button. Clean and simple.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: jesmen on January 18, 2013, 12:32
That's a little surprising.
What cables are you using and how long have you run it in?
If you just bought it, give it some time.
Very few people have said it is bright.
Sell it to me if you don't like it ...

Pioneer cheapo dvd player -> coaxial -> DAC -> Marantz pearl Lite amp -> Tannoy speakers

With above setup the sound turns out warm and nice.

MacbookPro -> USB -> DAC -> Marantz pearl Lite amp -> Tannoy speakers

With above setup sound turns out bright.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: lkypeter on January 18, 2013, 16:31
Pioneer cheapo dvd player -> coaxial -> DAC -> Marantz pearl Lite amp -> Tannoy speakers

With above setup the sound turns out warm and nice.

MacbookPro -> USB -> DAC -> Marantz pearl Lite amp -> Tannoy speakers

With above setup sound turns out bright.
Marantz have a signature warm sound in general. Perhaps the amp or speakers.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: altis72 on January 23, 2013, 12:51
Hi guys,

I would like to get a power amp for usage with my KI Pearl integrated amp.

Is the MM7025 (2 channel power amp) a suitable match?
http://www.marantz.com.sg/sg/Products/Pages/ProductDetails.aspx?Catid=HomeTheatre&SubCatId=AVAmplifier&ProductId=MM7025
(http://i49.tinypic.com/214t8z.png)
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on January 23, 2013, 13:26
Hi guys,

I would like to get a power amp for usage with my KI Pearl integrated amp.

Is the MM7025 (2 channel power amp) a suitable match?
http://www.marantz.com.sg/sg/Products/Pages/ProductDetails.aspx?Catid=HomeTheatre&SubCatId=AVAmplifier&ProductId=MM7025
(http://i49.tinypic.com/214t8z.png)

I am not sure if this power amp is of the same SQ as the stereophile Pearl.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on January 23, 2013, 20:07
Friends
Those with the PM 15 or similar amps, is the on off button a soft one ?
Can you turn it off with a RCA input trigger ?
Thanks
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: lkypeter on January 24, 2013, 18:41
Note sure whether you guys are aware that Denon bought Marantz but left both brands as standalone. This is not common as they would promote one brand as premium and the other as consumer. Marantz has both high end and consumer so does Denon. I wonder why.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: altis72 on January 25, 2013, 10:28
I am not sure if this power amp is of the same SQ as the stereophile Pearl.

Thanks for your feedback. Was advised by Richard of Alpha Audio not to buy this as its more suitable for AV Amp.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Chrisart852 on January 29, 2013, 03:13
- Have been using SA11S1, SC11S1+ 2 bridged SM11S1 for the past 5 years + KEF speakers (XQ40). Would the addition of a SC11S1 for bi-amping make a real difference? If so, anyone way I could lay a hand on SC11S1 in Singapore, most likely 2nd hand?
- Besides, how would rate the new SA11S3 vs. the S1? Is there any shop running a demo? At this kind of price, I guess I should be able to listen to the player before making up my mind... a shop in Adelphi had one in a box, but they were not willing to use it for a demo.
- Anyone can tell why when the volume is being pumped up - I rarely do so - , the sound tends to be really loud and harsh, loosing its "composure".. Is that the amp having a problem driving the speakers? Bridged, the amp output can reach 400W while the current speaker rating is about 130W max. Is the gap between the amp output and the speaker the source of the a "degraded" sound? 
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Chrisart852 on January 29, 2013, 03:18
If I want to trade up my SA11S1 unit for a SA11S3, what value do you think it could fetch? The unit is in perfect a condition + box + remote + manual.
What would you recommend?
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Goldberg on January 29, 2013, 11:47
Saw SA11S3 & (if I'm not wrong) SA11S2 on demo at Jay Audio. You can check it out.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: jesmen on February 01, 2013, 15:14
Hi guys. I am looking forward to own a floorstander speaker in future. What brand/ model do you guys recommend for $3K and below?

Currently using Marantz KI Pearl Lite SACD and amp.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: altis72 on February 01, 2013, 16:04
Hi guys. I am looking forward to own a floorstander speaker in future. What brand/ model do you guys recommend for $3K and below?

Currently using Marantz KI Pearl Lite SACD and amp.

I would consider the Proac Studio 140 MKII but is slightly above S$3k. You could drop by Jay Audio (Lavender Street) for audition of their Marantz+Proac setup.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: kzone on February 01, 2013, 16:38
how about ALR Jordan? Its very transparent sounding.. shud be a good match for marantz. The classic small floortstander wud be below 3K
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: mingzhen on March 22, 2013, 08:16
Anyone has auditioned the PM11-S3?
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: mingzhen on March 22, 2013, 10:19
Hi guys. I am looking forward to own a floorstander speaker in future. What brand/ model do you guys recommend for $3K and below?

Currently using Marantz KI Pearl Lite SACD and amp.


Marantz + B&W is always a good synergy match. I used to listen Marantz + Elac, also surprisingly good. I think it's also a good match with KEF.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on March 26, 2013, 11:12
http://www.hometheater.com/content/marantz-introduces-na-11s1-network-audio-player-and-dac

Marantz Introduces NA-11S1 Network Audio Player and DAC


 Marantz Introduces Reference-Class NA-11S1 Network Audio Player and DAC
 – Equipped with Exclusive Marantz Technologies; Boasting a Host of Internet Streaming & Device Connectivity Options, Airplay for Music Streaming –
 Mahwah, NJ, February 15, 2013 – Marantz®, a world leader of advanced home entertainment solutions, is dramatically expanding the musical horizons for today’s digital consumer with the launch of its Reference Class NA-11S1 Network Audio Player and DAC (SRP: $3,499.00). The NA-11S1 brings new levels of high-quality music reproduction to today’s discerning listener, combining superior audio capabilities with advanced Internet streaming and digital connectivity options, all in a package designed for total ease-of-use and flexibility. Equipped with exclusive Marantz technologies, including the use of multiple HDAM (Hyper Dynamic Amplifier Module) devices, the NA-11S1 provides connectivity to a broad range of portable devices as well as PC connectivity, all easily controlled with the supplied remote as well as with the Marantz Remote App on iPhone, iPad or iTouch.*
 Powerful Listening Experience from All Today’s Popular Sources
 Engineered to reproduce a rich and full spectrum of sound from all of today’s popular music sources, the Marantz NA-11S1 is equipped with an RJ-45 LAN port so you can connect to your home network accessing thousands of internet radio stations and music streaming via Pandora, SiriusXM and Spotify**. The NA-11S1 is likewise equipped with Apple’s Airplay so users can stream their iTunes music, whether from a Mac or PC, as well as directly from their iPhone, iPad or iTouch*. Front and rear panel USB inputs expand the musical horizons even more, allowing users to enjoy iPhone and iPod audio via a digital connection and hear the music with new detail and richness through their home audio system, with sonic refinements made possible thanks to the NA-11S1’s advanced circuitry. The front panel USB type A port lets users connect portable devices directly, and it features automatic iPod detection and charging, even during standby mode. The USB type B port on the rear panel lets users connect a PC or Mac directly, and the newly developed Ground/Signal isolator technology helps to reduce PC noise for the highest quality sound. Dual (optical and coaxial) outputs are provided for connection to other components, and there are also dual digital inputs that allow the NA-11S1 to be used as a DAC with other digital audio sources. There’s even a high-quality dedicated headphone amplifier, which features its own output stage equipped with HDAM-SA2 devices along with a precision variable analog volume control.
 Living Up to the Marantz Name in High-Quality Audio
 A host of Marantz digital technologies combine in the NA-11S1 for the ultimate audio experience. It’s equipped with dual master audio clock generators with jitter reduction for numerous sampling frequencies and bit depths, up to 192 kHz/24 bits. The NA-11S1 also supports numerous audio file types, including WAV, WMA, MP3, MPEG-4 AAC, FLAC and ALAC, as well as DSD. The latest Marantz DSP processor (DSP PEC777f3) provides precision digital filtering, and the NA-11S1 offers a number of DSP modes that let users customize the sound, including two modes for digital sources, as well as the option of noise shaping and a DC filter with a 1.7 Hz cutoff.
 Exclusive Output Technology Ensures Faithful Playback
 For optimum audio fidelity, the NA-11S1 features high current, high resolution audiophile D/A converters, operating in differential mode for the lowest noise and widest dynamic range. The critical post-D/A current-to-voltage conversion is handled by the latest Marantz HDAM-SA2 devices, which feature precision discrete components in lieu of standard op amp chips. The final analog output stage features additional HDAM devices, and there are two output choices – unbalanced (RCA) and balanced (XLR). The balanced outputs also feature a phase-inversion option for compatibility with any XLR-equipped pre-amp.
 Rugged, Durable Construction
 As befits its reference-class status, the NA-11S1 features a rugged chassis with internal copper-plated surfaces. The thick 5mm top panel can easily support the weight of an additional component, and the dual-layer bottom plate and die-cast aluminum cabinet feet provide solid rigidity along with additional resistance from external vibrations. The massive power supply features a high current toroidal power transformer with multiple oxygen free copper (OFC) secondary windings, and is housed in a copper-plated enclosure for maximum shielding. Multiple separate circuit boards ensure minimal interference between the various analog and digital stages.
 Paul Belanger, Technical Product Manager, D+M Group noted: “Marantz has built its legacy on delivering true high fidelity music listening experiences, and the NA-11S1 reaffirms that reputation, bringing the very best Marantz audio capabilities to today’s digital music universe. The result is astounding music playback with more ways to connect with all your favorite music, whether streaming directly from your iPhone, iPad or iTouch*, networked hard drive or USB thumb drive. The NA-11S1 blends seamlessly with a user’s existing home audio system, offering easy, networked access to all of today’s great music sources.”
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on April 03, 2013, 23:47
Review of the NA 11:
http://www.analogplanet.com/content/marantz-launches-na-11s1-reference-class-network-audio-player-and-usb-dac (http://www.analogplanet.com/content/marantz-launches-na-11s1-reference-class-network-audio-player-and-usb-dac)

Review of the SA 11 S3:
http://www.avrev.com/home-theater-audio-sources/dvd-audio-sacd-players/marantz-sa-11s3-sacd-player-dac.html
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: ke1923 on May 13, 2013, 12:04
Hello all, has anyone paired both the KI Pearl Lite SACD & AMP with PMC speakers before?How does it sound? Is it overly warm?Read from this thread that the KI Pearl Lite does not possess the warm sound unlike its other series. I looking to purchase bookshelf PMC 21 to match the KI Pearls for my new house, Alternatively, which other bookshelf speakers would you recommend to pair with the Pearl Lite. Thanks in advance
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: cstanxpl on May 27, 2013, 12:24
Marantz 2013 to 2014 catalogue.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/voaeqp4fa0mfj1s/Marantz%20catalog%202013-2014.PDF

Digital input in the PM6005.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: DJQ on June 27, 2013, 23:33
Hi Marantz owners, I was wondering if anyone further mod their SA15-S2. any pointers.
CD mechanism XYRON® (PBO fibre) is the next generation super fibre which decreases the vibration and resonances of a disc dramatically, increasing the quality of the outputted audio quality. Developed by Ashahi Chemical Japan, the fibre possesses High Rigidity with High Internal Losses, ideal material for CD or DVD mechanisms.

I am thinking to replace those short thin wires that connects to the RCA jacks.

(http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp332/DJQ96/sa15s2_zpsdfbc5ce9.jpg)
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on July 03, 2013, 15:41
Not sure how much difference it will make bro..
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: alamdamai1 on July 13, 2013, 14:20
hi guys, may i kindly enquire from all marantz cdp owners, when you set the player to shuffle/random play using the usb input, does the unit would eventually repeat back some of the tracks in the selected folder and will continue playing without stopping?

or would the player complete 1 cycle of play of the selected folder without repeating any the songs/tracks?

many thx for your reply as i'm considering getting a marantz cdp...wink.gif
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on August 20, 2013, 09:34
http://www.hometheater.com/content/marantz-targets-audiophiles-integrated-amp-and-cd-player (http://www.hometheater.com/content/marantz-targets-audiophiles-integrated-amp-and-cd-player)

CD and PM 6005...



 (http://www.hometheater.com/images/081913_Marantz%20PM6005_promo.jpg)
Marantz has expanded its audiophile-focused line of stereo components with the PM6005 integrated amplifier ($699) and the CD6005 CD player ($499).  An update of the PM6004 integrated amp, the PM6005 is rated to deliver 2 x 45 watts into 8 ohms (2 x 60 into 4 ohms) and features optical and coaxial digital inputs, 24 bit/192 kHz decoding, a high-current power supply, two sets of gold-plated speaker terminals, and a discrete headphone amplifier.
 The CD6005 is built around a 24-bit/192 kHz-capable D/A conversion system and offers a front-panel USB port, a discrete headphone amplifier, a remote control that can also operate the matching PM6005 amplifier, and compatibility with a range of file types, including WAV, AAC, WMA, and MP3. Digital audio circuitry is housed in its own shielded subsection and the player’s center-mount CD mechanism is securely fastened to the chassis to minimize vibrations, according to the company.
 (http://www.hometheater.com/images/081913_Marantz%20CD6005.jpg)
 Both models incorporate Marantz’s Hyper Dynamic Amplifier Module (HDAM) technology, which employs discrete circuit elements in the D/A and analog output sections instead of the more common IC-based op-amps.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on October 09, 2013, 22:57
The PM 6005 reviewed:

http://www.audioholics.com/amplifier-reviews/marantz-pm6005-integrated-amplifier
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: lkypeter on October 11, 2013, 23:51
Review of the NA 11:
http://www.analogplanet.com/content/marantz-launches-na-11s1-reference-class-network-audio-player-and-usb-dac (http://www.analogplanet.com/content/marantz-launches-na-11s1-reference-class-network-audio-player-and-usb-dac)

Review of the SA 11 S3:
http://www.avrev.com/home-theater-audio-sources/dvd-audio-sacd-players/marantz-sa-11s3-sacd-player-dac.html
Have the marantz sa11s2 and love it.

Looking at the great review for na 11s1 against the likes of EMM, I compared the DAC part of sa11s3 with na11s1, the sa11s3 is deficient in DSD streaming. Other than that, they use the same chip, filters, USB and analogue. If not for this, one can buy the sa11s3 for usd 500 more and get a complete dac and sacd/CD player. Perhaps marantz did this to prevent killing their own network player but have to bear in mind that the real competition or enemy is out there and not within.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: lkypeter on October 24, 2013, 17:39
Have a marantz sa11s2 that is out of warranty showing intermittent tracking issues only on sacd and works fine on red books. Found out that the problem is due to the laser pickup aging. Can anyone suggest a place to repair it in Singapore. Otherwise would have to go back to audio house where it came from.

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on October 24, 2013, 18:02
Have a marantz sa11s2 that is out of warranty showing intermittent tracking issues only on sacd and works fine on red books. Found out that the problem is due to the laser pickup aging. Can anyone suggest a place to repair it in Singapore. Otherwise would have to go back to audio house where it came from.

Thanks in advance.

Bro
Try Memory Lane?
The Marantz CD transport is pretty common, cheers.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on October 24, 2013, 18:04
Have the marantz sa11s2 and love it.

Looking at the great review for na 11s1 against the likes of EMM, I compared the DAC part of sa11s3 with na11s1, the sa11s3 is deficient in DSD streaming. Other than that, they use the same chip, filters, USB and analogue. If not for this, one can buy the sa11s3 for usd 500 more and get a complete dac and sacd/CD player. Perhaps marantz did this to prevent killing their own network player but have to bear in mind that the real competition or enemy is out there and not within.
I don't think the SA 11 s3 has airplay?
I am seriously looking at the NA 11 as an advanced media DAC centre.
CD based media is less popular, and much of my music is on a HDD and I often connect via Airplay
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: lkypeter on October 24, 2013, 19:24

Bro
Try Memory Lane?
The Marantz CD transport is pretty common, cheers.
Thanks.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Cslaw@334 on October 24, 2013, 20:38
Hi

I am looking to replace my Forza amplifier volume pot ( modified Marantz PM4400 amplifier ). It's scratchy when rotated. Clean with contact cleaner improves but will not last long.

Any body knows where I can get the motorized volume pot.
Besides getting from the agent.

Thanks for reading

SMS / whatsapp / contact 8128 460 two
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: aquarius on October 25, 2013, 00:11
Have a marantz sa11s2 that is out of warranty showing intermittent tracking issues only on sacd and works fine on red books. Found out that the problem is due to the laser pickup aging. Can anyone suggest a place to repair it in Singapore. Otherwise would have to go back to audio house where it came from.

Thanks in advance.

Try Marantz Service Centre.  I had the same problem last year with my 11s2.  Called Adrian at Memory Lane who recommended that I go the the Service Centre as he did not have the part. 

It was not too expensive, maybe <$300 for the laser replacement, I think.  It's been 15 months and working real fine.  Nice people too.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: lkypeter on October 26, 2013, 00:41

Try Marantz Service Centre.  I had the same problem last year with my 11s2.  Called Adrian at Memory Lane who recommended that I go the the Service Centre as he did not have the part. 

It was not too expensive, maybe <$300 for the laser replacement, I think.  It's been 15 months and working real fine.  Nice people too.
Have a good point and sounds reasonable too with marantz service centre. Called Adrian but no answer on his cell.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: aquarius on October 26, 2013, 12:17
Have a good point and sounds reasonable too with marantz service centre. Called Adrian but no answer on his cell.

Just found the service receipt - I paid only $195.  Call 6273 7955.  Can't remember their names though.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: deaf.eye on October 26, 2013, 18:52
I think there's a promotion going on for the package of «PM11S3 + SA11S3» or «PM11S3 + NA11S1» and free gift of a pair of Baccarat wine crystal glasses, to mark Marantz 60th anniversary.

Very sorry folks. I made a big mistake. It is promo for 2 items. Not 3 items as i first mentioned because i saw the pictures of 3 items displayed together... But i also saw an ad at Audiio House which has a promo for all 3 items... confusing :-X
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on October 26, 2013, 21:42
I think there's a promotion going on for the package of PM11S3 + SA11S3 + NA11S1 = $11,999, and free gift of a pair of Baccarat wine crystal glasses, to mark Marantz 60th anniversary.
http://www.marantz.asia/ap/News/Pages/NewsDetails.aspx?NewsID=29
Interesting.. wonder who carries this?
Alpha?
Anyone know the price of the NA 11?
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: arithon on October 27, 2013, 11:13
Hi guys,

Where is the best place to get a Marantz M-CR610?  Any reliable shops to recommend?   
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: jacklim on October 27, 2013, 11:41
Hi guys,

Where is the best place to get a Marantz M-CR610?  Any reliable shops to recommend?   
call city electronics. 63395566
staff are always polite and helpful. especially Kris
Title: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: lkypeter on October 27, 2013, 12:50
Just found the service receipt - I paid only $195.  Call 6273 7955.  Can't remember their names though.
Thanks acquarius. Will hv it serviced by marantz. The sa11sa2 was a good bargain at 3k then but not sure how much different sound wise excluding the additional features like dac etc the marantz sa11s3 is.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: jacklim on October 27, 2013, 15:47
Thanks acquarius. Will hv it serviced by marantz. The sa11sa2 was a good bargain at 3k then but not sure how much different sound wise excluding the additional features like dac etc the marantz sa11s3 is.
sa11s2 is a gem. the transport is dead quiet. the pricing is affordable and it beats many high end cdp. maybe on par with Dcs Puccini without the external  clock after hearing them side by side. but their older brother sa11s1 is not as credible though.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: meatballz on October 27, 2013, 15:50
Just released this month

http://www.marantz.asia/ap/Products/Pages/ProductDetails.aspx?CatId=HiFi&SubCatId=SACDCDPlayer&ProductId=SA14S1
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: mingzhen on October 28, 2013, 10:06
If just need a CD Transport, do you think CD6005 is sufficient?
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: lkypeter on October 28, 2013, 12:34
Thanks acquarius. Will hv it serviced by marantz. The sa11sa2 was a good bargain at 3k then but not sure how much different sound wise excluding the additional features like dac etc the marantz sa11s3 is.
Hi Acquirus,
I managed to call the agent and spoke to a Mr. Wong and he told me that it cannot be $195 unless I show him the receipt. Would you mind to PM me your receipt or email to me at lkypeter at gmail dot com

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: CASH on October 28, 2013, 15:17
Marantz NA-11s1

(http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w33/cashkey/20131028_140611.jpg)

Denon DCD-SX and Denon DCD-SX1

(http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w33/cashkey/20131028_140806.jpg)
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: CASH on October 28, 2013, 15:23
Pictures taken in Tokyo Shinjuku today. 28th Oct 2013.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: song song on October 28, 2013, 15:49
Hi Deaf, you mention there is the package deal consists of Marantz PM 11s3 SA11S3 and NA11S3 , do you know where can I get it ?
Many Thks .
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: deaf.eye on October 28, 2013, 16:10
Hi Deaf, you mention there is the package deal consists of Marantz PM 11s3 SA11S3 and NA11S3 , do you know where can I get it ?
Many Thks .

Song song, my apologies. It is for a package of 2 items. Not 3 items. Sorry.

I heard about this promotion from Jay Audio, as it is a retailer of Marantz.
Jay will be showcasing the full set at Room 717 at ISSE, 22nd - 24th Nov 2013.
You can go check it out!
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: lkypeter on November 03, 2013, 22:03

Hi Acquirus,
I managed to call the agent and spoke to a Mr. Wong and he told me that it cannot be $195 unless I show him the receipt. Would you mind to PM me your receipt or email to me at lkypeter at gmail dot com

Thanks in advance.
Thanks Acquirus,
My marantz SA11S2 is now in marantz hospital and should be back in about 1 week. Friendly mr. Wong told me that the sa11S2 and the SA7 share the same top end transport which is good to hear.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: aquarius on November 03, 2013, 23:15
Thanks Acquirus,
My marantz SA11S2 is now in marantz hospital and should be back in about 1 week. Friendly mr. Wong told me that the sa11S2 and the SA7 share the same top end transport which is good to hear.

You are welcome.  They are a great bunch of friendly, competent and unassuming people. 
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: lkypeter on November 15, 2013, 01:38
Got my marantz sa11s2 back from marantz service centre ie trinity av service. They replaced the entire laser pickup and it is functioning beautifully. All other parts are in good condition. Starting to revert back to spinning CDs instead of computer music. I think the sound improved after the repair especially sound stage when playing Beethoven sonatas for cello and piano by channel classics performed by wispelwey and lazic.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on November 15, 2013, 06:43
Nice Peter... perhaps the clean laser head is now picking up info that the old head didn't..
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: lkypeter on November 19, 2013, 12:26
It does seems to sound warmer but I am not sure it is due to halo effect.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on November 23, 2013, 14:57
Song song, my apologies. It is for a package of 2 items. Not 3 items. Sorry.

I heard about this promotion from Jay Audio, as it is a retailer of Marantz.
Jay will be showcasing the full set at Room 717 at ISSE, 22nd - 24th Nov 2013.
You can go check it out!

Jay Audio has a 13 xxx package of all three at the ISSE.

Got the NA 11 S1 in Black... delivery in December..
The trio do make a very nice package :)
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on December 04, 2013, 00:01
It's here :)

Will do a review later on, but initial impressions are very positive. I don't find any more brightness, and setup was super easy... looks better in black than gold to me ....

(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x244/petetherock/Hi%20Fi/IMG_6810_zps389f894d.jpg) (http://s183.photobucket.com/user/petetherock/media/Hi%20Fi/IMG_6810_zps389f894d.jpg.html)

This thing is really well built... imagine it weights more than my Denon AV amp!

Even the remote is made from metal...
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Goldberg on December 04, 2013, 00:29
I'm still waiting for mine. Heard from Jay Audio that 5 sets of NA-11S1 just arrived and was collected by customers who placed order during the recent ISSE. I guess you are one of the lucky one. Not sure when will more arrive at our shore. Think he still owe his customers 10-12 sets including me. Haha.

The DAC is superb. 2 of my friends uses NA-11s1 DAC and downgrade their DCS Puccini as transport. The other friends now uses their SA-11s2 and SA-7s1 as transport only. That tells you how good the DAC is.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Goldberg on December 04, 2013, 00:44
Here's the review on NA-11s1.

http://www.stereophile.com/content/marantz-reference-na-11s1-network-audio-playerdac

Comparisons
When the Marantz arrived, I was using the fully loaded MSB Diamond DAC IV (USD43,325) that Jon Iverson reviewed in the October 2012 issue. Setting up the NA-11S1 (USD3499) and comparing the sound of its analog outputs with the sound of the MSB driven by a coaxial S/PDIF connection, I was astonished by how close the two DACs sounded. (Levels were matched to within 0.1dB at 1kHz, and music was streamed from Twonky.)

http://audioshark.org/computer-digital-audio-11/marantz-na-11s1-reference-network-audio-player-dac-review-1471.html#.Up4KAic3GhU

Comparisons:

I had in my system at the same time, my reference DAC, the EMM Labs DAC2X (SE). The DAC2X has been in my system for 6 months (which is an eternity for any DAC in my system). Feeding both the DAC2X and the NA-11S1 the same source and running both balanced into my Audio Research preamp, I was able to listen to the same song, at the same time and switch back and forth between inputs, listening for nuances and differences.

On redbook rips (FLAC), the differences were indistinguishable. On High Res files, the Marantz NA-11S1 had a slight edge with it’s more analog delivery. On DSD (both SACD rips and direct-to-DSD recordings), the Marantz NA-11S1 trumped the DAC2X, producing a much more three-dimensional, transparent, more analog sounding delivery.

Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: francishuang on December 04, 2013, 01:04
Here's the review on NA-11s1.

http://www.stereophile.com/content/marantz-reference-na-11s1-network-audio-playerdac

Comparisons
When the Marantz arrived, I was using the fully loaded MSB Diamond DAC IV (USD43,325) that Jon Iverson reviewed in the October 2012 issue. Setting up the NA-11S1 (USD3499) and comparing the sound of its analog outputs with the sound of the MSB driven by a coaxial S/PDIF connection, I was astonished by how close the two DACs sounded. (Levels were matched to within 0.1dB at 1kHz, and music was streamed from Twonky.)

http://audioshark.org/computer-digital-audio-11/marantz-na-11s1-reference-network-audio-player-dac-review-1471.html#.Up4KAic3GhU

Comparisons:

I had in my system at the same time, my reference DAC, the EMM Labs DAC2X (SE). The DAC2X has been in my system for 6 months (which is an eternity for any DAC in my system). Feeding both the DAC2X and the NA-11S1 the same source and running both balanced into my Audio Research preamp, I was able to listen to the same song, at the same time and switch back and forth between inputs, listening for nuances and differences.

On redbook rips (FLAC), the differences were indistinguishable. On High Res files, the Marantz NA-11S1 had a slight edge with it’s more analog delivery. On DSD (both SACD rips and direct-to-DSD recordings), the Marantz NA-11S1 trumped the DAC2X, producing a much more three-dimensional, transparent, more analog sounding delivery.

Wow. I gota go 5th ave place to hear it then
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on December 05, 2013, 05:34
A nice guide to using it with digital music via USB... Ken must have gone out of his way to design the USB section well...

http://m.marantz.fr/DocumentMaster/UK/Marantz_Whitepaper_PC-Audio_NA-11S1.pdf
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Marine on December 05, 2013, 07:28
seems impressive. Pete, have u tried the USB vs Coaxial. Many computer music people prefer to use a usb to coaxial converter instead of direct usb to the dac even with asynchronous usb dac.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on December 05, 2013, 11:52
No I have not, using Airplay has been very satisfying..
 
And to answer a question here, I didn't buy the SACD player SA 11, since I intended to use the Oppo 105 and 83 NE as a transport, and the DAC inside the SA 11 will be redundant.
 
Might as well save it for something else. Once things are run in, will spend some time near X Mas to listen and report back.
 
If you are getting all three, the gold option may be nice, but IMO, the black is nicer..
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Marine on December 05, 2013, 12:04
Do share the difference between using the oppo 105 as a player vs going thru the marantz. I like the 105 features so much but don't like it's sound... lack the bite and contrast maybe due to the sabre dac so going the transport route like u if sounds good can minimise number of boxes.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on December 07, 2013, 00:06
Got mine from Jay Audio.
You can get it for $38xx

 My initial review of the new Marantz NA 11 S1 network player:

http://peteswrite.blogspot.sg/2013/12/marantz-na-11-s1-review.html (http://peteswrite.blogspot.sg/2013/12/marantz-na-11-s1-review.html)

More details in the days to come..
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: lkypeter on December 07, 2013, 14:14

No I have not, using Airplay has been very satisfying..
 
And to answer a question here, I didn't buy the SACD player SA 11, since I intended to use the Oppo 105 and 83 NE as a transport, and the DAC inside the SA 11 will be redundant.
 
Might as well save it for something else. Once things are run in, will spend some time near X Mas to listen and report back.
 
If you are getting all three, the gold option may be nice, but IMO, the black is nicer..

Great choice but you will not be able to play the high res dsd on a sacd using oppo as transport; only the red book layer if I am not mistaken.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: SBC666 on January 02, 2014, 20:05
Wanna buy the Combo Package SA 11S3 + PM 11S3 + NA 11S1, any buddy know the best price retailer? Anyone bought the combo? Would really appreciate if can PM me your package price..thanks. ;D
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: cstanxpl on January 07, 2014, 12:30
The SA/PM8005 are updated in the UK website.

Made in Japan.  ;D

But seems to have lost the usual copper plated chassis.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Chrisart852 on January 31, 2014, 17:42

The DAC is superb. 2 of my friends uses NA-11s1 DAC and downgrade their DCS Puccini as transport. The other friends now uses their SA-11s2 and SA-7s1 as transport only. That tells you how good the DAC is.

Golberg, Greetings!

I am currently using a SA11S1, with a SC11S1 + 2 x PM-11S1. My intention was initially to upgrade for a SA11S3. However, I read in your post that some use their CD player as "transport" only and the NA11S1 DAC. Does that mean that I would be better of keeping my SA11S1 as transport and use the DAC of the NA11S1 instead?

By the way, what do you need to do to use the SA11S1 as 'transport" only?

Last but not least, are you aware of the latest prices in Singapore? I live in Jakarta and prices are probably 30% above retail prices in Singapore. Where is the best place to buy it from?

Thanks & Regards.
Christian
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Goldberg on January 31, 2014, 18:03
Hi Chrisart852

Use a digital cable to connect between CDP & NA-11s1. Interconnect between NA-11s1 to pre or integrated amp. I just collected my NA-11s1 abt 2 weeks ago. It sounded fantastic.

Jay Audio is authorized by Marantz to sell the NA-11s1. Apparently there's no stock in Singapore at the moment. According to Jay the next shipment (only a few set is expected due to high demand in other part of the world) is in March and ten more buyers who placed their order during Singapore Hifi show in November 2013 are still waiting. More than 25 sets were sold so far.

Suggest you buy from your home country if there's available stock. Else it's a long long wait.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Chrisart852 on January 31, 2014, 19:44
Hi Goldberg!
Thank you for taking the time to respond! Really appreciated!

Talking about the price in Indonesia, when the SGD was still @ IDR 8,000, the Marantz distributor was asking for almost SGD 7,5K or 25-30% as compared to Singapore. Since the IDR position has further deteriorated by another 20%. Since the dealer takes the stocks from Singapore, that means that the retail price in theory could hit nearly SGD 9K. That is just not making any sense to get it from here. You may understand why I am not so keen to get the unit from the Indonesian distributor at that point of time...

What was the retail price in Singapore when you bought your unit?
Kind Regards.


Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Chrisart852 on January 31, 2014, 19:50
Got mine from Jay Audio.
You can get it for $38xx

Hi Peterock!

The price you stated was in USD I guess. Can you pls confirm?

Many thanks & Kind Regards
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Goldberg on January 31, 2014, 20:10
SGD$3800 was promo price during last Nov Hifi show. Retail price SGD$4600-$4800. Around that price range.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: yongkg on February 03, 2014, 20:25
The SA/PM8005 are updated in the UK website.

Made in Japan.  ;D

But seems to have lost the usual copper plated chassis.

Hi, what's the damage for PM8005 locally (which dealer offers best), thank you.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Chrisart852 on February 04, 2014, 16:08
Goldberg wrote: "I just collected my NA-11s1 abt 2 weeks ago. It sounded fantastic."

Happy Chinese New Year to all! Gong Xi Fa Cai!

Just spoke to Kenny from Marantz Distributor in Malaysia. One of is customers stated this : "SA11S1+NA11S1 better than SA11S3"... No wonder one of the blog members offloaded his SA11S3 - having used it for less less than a year - ... to buy a NA11S1.

So I guess that the way to go is to keep my current SA11S1 and try to put a hand on a NA11S1 when available.
For info, the retail price in Malaysia is about  SGD 5.2K, and there is no stock either.

Next delivery is scheduled for April !!! In singapore, in March, with a long waiting list... :(


 
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on February 04, 2014, 18:07
For those using the NA 11, do you have any issue using iTunes feeding music to the PC labelled USB port at the back?
Still no joy for me, although airplay works.
Thanks
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: mystream on February 04, 2014, 18:59
I don't own the NA11 but I have tested it using my MacBook Pro running audirvana with Goldsberg NA11 playing 16/44, 24/96 and DSD ISO files, no issue at all. Although initially there's some hiccup (there's no sound playing from the NA11)..I realize later that I did not set the input to PC..once I set the correct input, everything works...there's no need for driver also. PC you need driver for it to work with NA 11.


Regards
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Chrisart852 on February 06, 2014, 10:55
- Price of NA11S1 in Malaysia for the upcoming shipment - April - will be RM 19,200, or around SGD 7,400!!!

- > 50% higher than the listed price last year in SIN.  :o

Does that mean that the price in Singapore will be higher? Will Marantz leverage the demand and "cream off"?

Is anyone aware of the retail price in Singapore when the new shipment lands in Singapore?
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: DJQ on February 06, 2014, 11:33
Malaysia tax heavily. My guess SG should be cheaper by a few hundreds.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Goldberg on February 06, 2014, 12:23
Shld be below SGD$5000 but my advice is to call Jay Audio and ask personally to confirm.

The question is are you willing to wait? I'd heard only a few sets are coming in March shipment and these are for customers that placed their orders during last Nov Hifi show. March shipment also cannot fulfill his obligation to give those that have paid their deposit. After March a few more customers still have to wait for another shipment. God knows when.

If you are still very keen you have to be patient or else get it from wherever it's available.


Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on February 08, 2014, 07:25
I don't own the NA11 but I have tested it using my MacBook Pro running audirvana with Goldsberg NA11 playing 16/44, 24/96 and DSD ISO files, no issue at all. Although initially there's some hiccup (there's no sound playing from the NA11)..I realize later that I did not set the input to PC..once I set the correct input, everything works...there's no need for driver also. PC you need driver for it to work with NA 11.


Regards

Thanks, I my suspicions are correct that one needs additional software for it to work.
A good buy at the show price.
In fact I pondered really hard about getting the PM 11 S3 too. Beautiful, but I wanted a little more power for the money..
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: mars73 on February 08, 2014, 14:39
Thanks, I my suspicions are correct that one needs additional software for it to work.
A good buy at the show price.
In fact I pondered really hard about getting the PM 11 S3 too. Beautiful, but I wanted a little more power for the money..

I think he was referring to needing a software driver for the USB input on windows PC. This is pretty common for USB inputs driven from windows PC. For Mac systems, some USB inputs don't need to install drivers. I don't need any drivers for my Mac mini running into the NA11.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: mystream on February 08, 2014, 15:38
Thanks, I my suspicions are correct that one needs additional software for it to work.
A good buy at the show price.
In fact I pondered really hard about getting the PM 11 S3 too. Beautiful, but I wanted a little more power for the money..

Hi Pete,

What OS are you using? Mac or Windows? For windows you need to install driver, which you can down load from marantz website, for mac you don't need drivers. With the driver installed,  you can play direct using itune without any third party software but sound quality is not as comparable.


I understand that a lot of Jay customers are using jriver on windows PC, you can download a trial version to compare with itune.

Personally I'm using mac with audirvana or amarra. A few bro who listen to my setup commented that amarra sound better than audirvana.

Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on February 08, 2014, 20:26
Hi
Hi have a Mbp with the snow leopard.
I wasn't referring to a driver but the additional software refers to things like jriver audio nirvana etc
Unlike my oppo 105 where no such software is needed it seems the NA 11 requires it even for my alac and AAC songs.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on February 10, 2014, 10:33
Someone in the forum is selling, without indicating the price..
You can ask him what he is asking for it.
- Price of NA11S1 in Malaysia for the upcoming shipment - April - will be RM 19,200, or around SGD 7,400!!!

- > 50% higher than the listed price last year in SIN.  :o

Does that mean that the price in Singapore will be higher? Will Marantz leverage the demand and "cream off"?

Is anyone aware of the retail price in Singapore when the new shipment lands in Singapore?
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Wenda on February 11, 2014, 12:27
Pricing won't be that high. Even in Indonesia with high import tax, it is less 10-20% from the list price of 3599USD.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: mystream on February 19, 2014, 22:06
Hey Guys,

Anyone knows that Marantz just release a reference CD player + DAC (SA 14S1)that support DSD on USB input?!

Wonder when will it arrive in SG market?

Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: yongkg on March 21, 2014, 23:58
Hi, any1 got the new PM8005, if, how it is compared with KI Pearl Lite ?

Thanks...
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Chrisart852 on March 24, 2014, 01:51
 :)Happily met with Jay Phua, from Jay Audio last week. I have to say that he lives up to his reputation : a fine gentleman eager to share his knowledge & experience.

Stocks of Marantz NA11S1 should be available this coming week. I have already booked a unit with Jay, and will be eager to come to Singapore next month to collect it. Grabbed a pair of nearly new B&W 805D in Singapore as well.

Can't wait to hook then up to my current system in Jakarta...
 
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: mystream on March 24, 2014, 16:20
:)Happily met with Jay Phua, from Jay Audio last week. I have to say that he lives up to his reputation : a fine gentleman eager to share his knowledge & experience.

Stocks of Marantz NA11S1 should be available this coming week. I have already booked a unit with Jay, and will be eager to come to Singapore next month to collect it. Grabbed a pair of nearly new B&W 805D in Singapore as well.

Can't wait to hook then up to my current system in Jakarta...


Hi Chris, Congrats!
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: yongkg on April 20, 2014, 10:04
:)Happily met with Jay Phua, from Jay Audio last week. I have to say that he lives up to his reputation : a fine gentleman eager to share his knowledge & experience.

Stocks of Marantz NA11S1 should be available this coming week. I have already booked a unit with Jay, and will be eager to come to Singapore next month to collect it. Grabbed a pair of nearly new B&W 805D in Singapore as well.

Can't wait to hook then up to my current system in Jakarta...

Any FR?
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: kzone on April 21, 2014, 21:58
does anyone know where I can read more about the NA-11's "Ground/Signal isolator technology" for the USB input? The white paper didnt really discuss it.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: AndrewC on April 22, 2014, 13:26
does anyone know where I can read more about the NA-11's "Ground/Signal isolator technology" for the USB input? The white paper didnt really discuss it.

There's lots of info on the ‘net about breaking ground loops on USB interfaces. I’m not sure if Marantz’s implementation is special or proprietary in any way (they would have given details if it had), but one of the most popular methods is with specialised chips from the likes of Analog Devices (http://www.analog.com/en/interface-isolation/usb-isolators/products/index.html)… You might want to read their paper on it;

http://www.analog.com/static/imported-files/tech_articles/MS-2256.pdf (http://www.analog.com/static/imported-files/tech_articles/MS-2256.pdf).
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on April 22, 2014, 13:34
does anyone know where I can read more about the NA-11's "Ground/Signal isolator technology" for the USB input? The white paper didnt really discuss it.
Try to send an email to Marantz USA?
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: kzone on April 22, 2014, 17:19
There's lots of info on the ‘net about breaking ground loops on USB interfaces. I’m not sure if Marantz’s implementation is special or proprietary in any way (they would have given details if it had), but one of the most popular methods is with specialised chips from the likes of Analog Devices (http://www.analog.com/en/interface-isolation/usb-isolators/products/index.html)… You might want to read their paper on it;

http://www.analog.com/static/imported-files/tech_articles/MS-2256.pdf (http://www.analog.com/static/imported-files/tech_articles/MS-2256.pdf).

Read that the release was delayed because Ken Ishiwata wasnt satisfied with the performance of the USB input and spent some time working in it. I thought they wud be proud and publicise what they did
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: AndrewC on April 23, 2014, 18:16
Read that the release was delayed because Ken Ishiwata wasnt satisfied with the performance of the USB input and spent some time working in it. I thought they wud be proud and publicise what they did

When I did a quick search, apparently that Marantz "USB ground/Signal isolation” isn’t unique to the NA11-S1, it’s also on the SA-14S1 and SA8005. Not sure if they’re identical though.

If KI tweaked the USB input of the NA11, it’s probably the entire USB input stage rather than just the ground loop isolation -- USB input stages can span from the very cheap & cheerful off-the-shelf stuff to completely DSP based designs. I did a quick search on the NA11-S1, the heart of the machine appears to be the Renesas RX160 Microcontroller (http://am.renesas.com/products/mpumcu/rx/rx600/rx610/index.jsp), and the digital input is handled by a pair of Texas Instrument chips; TMS320C6748 (http://www.ti.com/product/tms320c6748) DSP, and PCM9211 (http://www.ti.com/product/pcm9211) S/PDIF that feeds the DSP. Couldn't quite tell about the USB input itself, probably an isolated USB digital register that feed into the DSP.

So, I bet there was quite a lot to "tweak"  before it was released  :)
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on April 28, 2014, 22:54
The PM 11S3 is a well built, smooth and detailed amp... :)

http://peteswrite.blogspot.sg/2014/04/marantz-pm11s3-review.html
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: hifi_enthusiast on April 29, 2014, 18:02
Long time no hifi upgrades.... I just got my first Japanese brand amp in a long time, Marantz PM6005 for my TV room (stereo setup only). Nice amp, nice price (Adelphi 1st floor, quoted lower than KEC). Replaced my Cambridge Audio A1 amp.

Currently using digital coax to connect Oppo Blu-ray to PM6005 and planning to connect children's Samsung Blu-ray player via Toslink once I get a Toslink cable.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: kzone on April 29, 2014, 22:30
The PM 11S3 is a well built, smooth and detailed amp... :)

http://peteswrite.blogspot.sg/2014/04/marantz-pm11s3-review.html


finally! congrats! Shud be a great match with ur 804D!
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on April 29, 2014, 22:33
Long time no hifi upgrades.... I just got my first Japanese brand amp in a long time, Marantz PM6005 for my TV room (stereo setup only). Nice amp, nice price (Adelphi 1st floor, quoted lower than KEC). Replaced my Cambridge Audio A1 amp.

Currently using digital coax to connect Oppo Blu-ray to PM6005 and planning to connect children's Samsung Blu-ray player via Toslink once I get a Toslink cable.


Bro
You may want to try using the RCA output of your Oppo, the DAC inside the Oppos, even the 103 isn't too shabby... cheers
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: pcie on April 29, 2014, 22:36
superb PM11S3! gorgeous.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on May 01, 2014, 15:26
Just a little update on the NA 11S1 + USB + iTunes Mac issue. I downloaded Jriver for Mac, and it plays fine now.
The native iTunes software doesn't work with the USB B port of the Marantz, although it works with the Oppo's USB DAC...
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: altis72 on May 01, 2014, 22:50
The PM 11S3 is a well built, smooth and detailed amp... :)

http://peteswrite.blogspot.sg/2014/04/marantz-pm11s3-review.html

Bro does the PM11S3 have enough power to drive the 804D?
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on May 01, 2014, 22:57
Bro does the PM11S3 have enough power to drive the 804D?
I note that you previously owned the Pearl KI which I wished I had been able to buy, well, that is until the PM 11 came along.. and the answer is a definite yes.
Had a couple of friends over, and they are regulars at my place and they have noted a big improvement over my 250W MF amp.
If you are keen to listen, pm me. I might have some time this coming Friday night or Saturday lunch, cheers.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: altis72 on May 02, 2014, 16:44
I note that you previously owned the Pearl KI which I wished I had been able to buy, well, that is until the PM 11 came along.. and the answer is a definite yes.
Had a couple of friends over, and they are regulars at my place and they have noted a big improvement over my 250W MF amp.
If you are keen to listen, pm me. I might have some time this coming Friday night or Saturday lunch, cheers.
Thanks for your reply and invite. Sorry would not be able to make it this weekend. Hope to catch up soon. Cheers
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on May 03, 2014, 12:18
A strange thing happened... I used Jriver, and then tried my iTunes again, and now it plays through the rear USB!
But somehow the dsd files I downloaded don't seem to work, there's formats like dff and others... odd...
Anyway with itunes working, I am happy..
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: yongkg on May 03, 2014, 17:18
The PM 11S3 is a well built, smooth and detailed amp... :)

http://peteswrite.blogspot.sg/2014/04/marantz-pm11s3-review.html

Hi Bro Pete,

Will the new B&W 683S2 go well with Marantz KI Pearl Lite / PM 8005? Thnks...
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on May 04, 2014, 01:27
Hi Bro Pete,

Will the new B&W 683S2 go well with Marantz KI Pearl Lite / PM 8005? Thnks...
I think you will need to hear it for yourself.. it's a new series.
The Pearl Lite has good reviews, but system matching is something you have to audition.
Cheers..
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: yongkg on May 04, 2014, 07:12
I think you will need to hear it for yourself.. it's a new series.
The Pearl Lite has good reviews, but system matching is something you have to audition.
Cheers..
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Thnks...cos i am still a newbie in the audio journey starting with Denon AVR going into Marantz 2-channel.  I had 'heard' the system at TEG for the 685 pairing with Roksan, 684 with Arcam & 683 with Classe and had found that the 683 giving soundstage and imaging above those (but a level below Classe with CM10). I got a Pearl Lite which i do not know whether it matches with the new 600 series ???
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on May 04, 2014, 09:42
Bro
Just bring your amp down and use it with the speaker you like!
Ask nicely, I am sure they will oblige.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: yongkg on May 04, 2014, 13:41

Bro
Just bring your amp down and use it with the speaker you like!
Ask nicely, I am sure they will oblige.
[/quote]
Thnks...Pete...got chance and if invited, will take a hear to your PM11S3 wi 804D
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on May 04, 2014, 19:36
Thnks...Pete...got chance and if invited, will take a hear to your PM11S3 wi 804D
Sure, we can discuss some more..
You may not like the way I share advice though ;)
After telling a bro recently about how to spend his money, I got no thanks even after a demo and much advice...
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on May 04, 2014, 19:38
I have found a very reliable and perhaps expensive way of taming hum.. I am talking total silence...
The PM 11S3 is one piece of quality equipment.
Sound quality aside, it is really well built, and everything screams quality. When you use it, it is absolutely silent. Switch channels, or even if you switch it one before turning on the processor and you won't get any sound or thump.

Even after a night of use, it doesn't get more than warm.. and there are no fans, its built to last.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: yongkg on May 04, 2014, 21:32
Hi, i had a taste of your approach and advice in my previous avr journey but it serves us, the newbies, well in this hobby. This hobby is very addictive if 1 is serious.

After going the audio journey (mine low end type), i had got a Audiolab then the Marantz Pearl Lite. Then I realized what Marantz 2-channel audio system could bring about. I gather that you had the experience too of going away from MF to the Marantz system ... thnks for your guidance all this whilst ...
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on May 05, 2014, 10:14
Bro since you have bought the Pearl Lite, I am not sure you want to try the PM11s3...
It may hurt your wallet more ...

Anyway as usual pm me with your contact and I will let you know..
Cheers
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Hublot on May 05, 2014, 22:48
Sure, we can discuss some more..
You may not like the way I share advice though ;)
After telling a bro recently about how to spend his money, I got no thanks even after a demo and much advice...

Hi Pete

Hope the person you r referring is not me as I did present an appreciation note in the other thread :)

Big thank you again

Cheers
Hublot
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on May 07, 2014, 21:24
Found more measurements of the power output of the PM 11S3, and Hi Fi News measured it as:
Quote
The partnering amplifier makes a mockery of its '100W specification, delivering a huge 2x160 w at 8ohm and 2x260w at 4ohm right up to 680w at 1ohm (or 26A) under dynamic conditions [/font]


http://www.sarte-audio.com/sites/default/files/hifi_news_sa-11s3_pm-11s3_0.pdf (http://www.sarte-audio.com/sites/default/files/hifi_news_sa-11s3_pm-11s3_0.pdf)

And I have successfully played a dff track on the NA11 S1 with the aid of Jriver, but it doesn't play the dsf file.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on May 17, 2014, 23:39
Finally had a chance to try out the headphone amp built into the NA11s1, and it's very good.
Neutral in nature and powers even difficult to drive cans well, you usually won't need to turn it up beyond 11 o'clock unless deafness is desired.
It begs you to use good cans with it, and will not be out of place with a nice set like the Senn HD 650 or even the 800.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on May 19, 2014, 07:57
I could have sworn there was a NA 11S1 put on sale at about 11 pm last night... must have been snapped up ;)
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Pismo Mac on May 19, 2014, 15:55
It is in the home theatre section.


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Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: francishuang on May 19, 2014, 16:07
How much is a new one going for now?

Few mths old selling 3.1k. Sounds ok to me
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Hass on May 19, 2014, 16:12
Really good price for such a busy dac
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Pismo Mac on May 20, 2014, 23:37
Can't play AIFF, deal breaker for me.


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Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: mystream on May 21, 2014, 02:14
NA11 can play AIFF on the back usb input..

Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Pismo Mac on May 21, 2014, 22:25
All my music is on a NAS.


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Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: milk_vanilla on May 21, 2014, 22:56
If you use synology, it has feature to convert aiff to wav on the fly.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Pismo Mac on May 22, 2014, 09:34
Interesting. What package would I need to install on the Synology?


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Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Tiktokape on May 22, 2014, 09:37
No need to install package, go to admin mode. You should be able to find the feature in there.


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Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on May 22, 2014, 09:56
Anyone bought the NA 11 that was on sale?
Actually thought of swooping my black one to a gold to match my PM11s3..
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: francishuang on May 22, 2014, 13:50
Anyone bought the NA 11 that was on sale?
Actually thought of swooping my black one to a gold to match my PM11s3..

Buyer collecting on friday
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: annapurna on May 22, 2014, 22:09
Buyer collecting on friday

You are the buyer? :)
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: francishuang on May 22, 2014, 22:48
You are the buyer? :)

Fren is the seller. If it goes thru. I will ask buyer if hes interested for colour swop

Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Goldberg on May 23, 2014, 16:20
Marantz NA-11s1 won the EISA Award 2013-2014 for Best Product (Digital Audio Player).

To me it's the best value hifi equipment I've ever purchased. Fantastic DAC.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jheb0dvVgpg

http://www.hifinews.co.uk/editorial/page.asp?p=1164
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: arsene on May 23, 2014, 19:38
Marantz NA-11s1 won the EISA Award 2013-2014 for Best Product (Digital Audio Player).

To me it's the best value hifi equipment I've ever purchased. Fantastic DAC.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jheb0dvVgpg

http://www.hifinews.co.uk/editorial/page.asp?p=1164

I am currently using oppo to stream my FLAC music files in 24/192 from my Synology via my W4S DAC2. Just wondering whether the DAC in Marantz NA 11 will bean audible upgrade  from my W4S DAC2?  If so  an sell my W4S to fund the Marantz 
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Goldberg on May 23, 2014, 20:48
Recently mystream sold his W4S DAC & changed to NA-11.


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Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: arsene on May 23, 2014, 21:10
Recently mystream sold his W4S DAC & changed to NA-11.

Thanks.  Will consider this for my next upgrade. This haa the added advantage of being able to play dsd files 


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Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: mystream on May 24, 2014, 02:45


If your primary objective is to play DSD files, one option is to send your W4S DAC back to factory for an upgrade to the latest spec's.

https://wyred4sound.com/products/upgrades-and-mods (https://wyred4sound.com/products/upgrades-and-mods)

Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: annapurna on May 24, 2014, 11:53
I am thinking of getting a Marantz SA11S3 or Marantz NA11.   My budget only allow me to buy one.   Which one would be a better choice?
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: francishuang on May 24, 2014, 12:04
I am thinking of getting a Marantz SA11S3 or Marantz NA11.   My budget only allow me to buy one.   Which one would be a better choice?

1.Original cdp as transport coaxial out to the na11
If u play redbook cd mostly

2. Sa11 as cdp
if you play sacd mostly

3. Na11
If you are streaming digital format pcm/dsd over usb mostly
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: annapurna on May 24, 2014, 12:38
1.Original cdp as transport coaxial out to the na11
If u play redbook cd mostly

2. Sa11 as cdp
if you play sacd mostly

3. Na11
If you are streaming digital format pcm/dsd over usb mostly
1.Original cdp as transport coaxial out to the na11
If u play redbook cd mostly

2. Sa11 as cdp
if you play sacd mostly

3. Na11
If you are streaming digital format pcm/dsd over usb mostly
Thanks Francis.
I have a very old Marantz CD7.  Not sure whether it can still be considered good enough for use as a transport.  As I still have quite a big CD collection, will the Marantz CD7 > NA11 be better or equivalent to a Marantz SA11S3?    I will also be streaming music from my Synology NAS in this setup.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: arsene on May 24, 2014, 13:11
What's the difference in the sound signature between W4s dac2 and the marantz na11?
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: mystream on May 24, 2014, 13:32
Thanks Francis.
I have a very old Marantz CD7.  Not sure whether it can still be considered good enough for use as a transport.  As I still have quite a big CD collection, will the Marantz CD7 > NA11 be better or equivalent to a Marantz SA11S3?    I will also be streaming music from my Synology NAS in this setup.


If space is not a constraint, Your CD7 as transport to the NA11 will do fine. I have Kakis that use their Puccini and Marantz SA7S1 CD players as transport and swear that it's better than what they have previously.

Btw, the SA11S3 is about 1k more than the NA11, you save the money and invest in a good coxial and power cables.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: mystream on May 24, 2014, 13:56
What's the difference in the sound signature between W4s dac2 and the marantz na11?

Bro,

You have go listen for yourself and decide what you like.

I'm using a synology NAS with Jriver/ Macbook as my music server. The Mac is connected to NA11 via both USB and Ethernet network. After comparing playing music thru both USB and via DLNA, I find playing thru DLNA is better than via USB. The music is more alive, more dynamic and 3D. The reason I believe is because by playing thru USB, the music is process by Jriver audio engine where else when you stream music to NA11 using Jriver only as a renderer, the music is process using NA11 audio engine only.

Also, in my kaki group....majority is using Alienware with Jriver and swear it's better than Mac. Well....that's another topic and another argument....:)




Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on May 25, 2014, 07:33
Don't forget, the NA 11 also has internet radio and airplay, and for casual listening from my work station, airplay is very usable.
My HDD is attached to the Router, which uses Ethernet to connect to the NA11, and it's a stable connection, warm sound, and very decent quality.
The CD 7 is an impressive transport, no reason not to use it.
Thanks Francis.
I have a very old Marantz CD7.  Not sure whether it can still be considered good enough for use as a transport.  As I still have quite a big CD collection, will the Marantz CD7 > NA11 be better or equivalent to a Marantz SA11S3?    I will also be streaming music from my Synology NAS in this setup.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: francishuang on May 25, 2014, 08:37
Thanks Francis.
I have a very old Marantz CD7.  Not sure whether it can still be considered good enough for use as a transport.  As I still have quite a big CD collection, will the Marantz CD7 > NA11 be better or equivalent to a Marantz SA11S3?    I will also be streaming music from my Synology NAS in this setup.

No experience on the sa11 vs cd7+na11 over red book
However, heard quite extensively the s7 + na11 setup at 5th ave place. Quite a big improvement on cd layer in terms of floor noise staging n thus more detailed.
Choice of coaxial cable is very important.

Anyone with a sa11 n na11 combo here?
I'll check with 5th ave, told me he was thinking abt adding on a sa11 or getting emm labs. Maybe he has the sa11 in.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: marcus28 on May 26, 2014, 20:34
Bro Francis, you forgotten you have listened to my SA11 + NA11 liao. .. Though mine is SA11S1.


No experience on the sa11 vs cd7+na11 over red book
However, heard quite extensively the s7 + na11 setup at 5th ave place. Quite a big improvement on cd layer in terms of floor noise staging n thus more detailed.
Choice of coaxial cable is very important.

Anyone with a sa11 n na11 combo here?
I'll check with 5th ave, told me he was thinking abt adding on a sa11 or getting emm labs. Maybe he has the sa11 in.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: annapurna on May 26, 2014, 22:13
Don't forget, the NA 11 also has internet radio and airplay, and for casual listening from my work station, airplay is very usable.
My HDD is attached to the Router, which uses Ethernet to connect to the NA11, and it's a stable connection, warm sound, and very decent quality.
The CD 7 is an impressive transport, no reason not to use it.

Hi Pete, thank you for your input.  I just had a listen to my neighbour's NA11 half an hour ago connected via ethernet to his Synology DS413.   I am very impressed with the sound.  I tried a few tracks from Linn's 24/192 collection and was impressed with the clarity of the tracks.  The voice on Carol Kidd and Susan Wong from his Sonus Faber Guarneri driven by Marantz PM Pearl was so real and holographic.  I also like the Marantz interface from his Samsung android phone.  Looks like I will get one soon :) 
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: annapurna on May 26, 2014, 22:14
No experience on the sa11 vs cd7+na11 over red book
However, heard quite extensively the s7 + na11 setup at 5th ave place. Quite a big improvement on cd layer in terms of floor noise staging n thus more detailed.
Choice of coaxial cable is very important.

Anyone with a sa11 n na11 combo here?
I'll check with 5th ave, told me he was thinking abt adding on a sa11 or getting emm labs. Maybe he has the sa11 in.

Hi Francis, thank you again for sharing your experience.  It certainly help me in making my final decision:)
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: francishuang on May 26, 2014, 22:19
Hi Francis, thank you again for sharing your experience.  It certainly help me in making my final decision:)
My pleasure  :)
Cd7 as transport n na11 as dac? 
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on May 26, 2014, 22:24
Hi Francis, thank you again for sharing your experience.  It certainly help me in making my final decision:)
So I guess you are buying that one on sale?
Get the PM 11s3...
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: annapurna on May 26, 2014, 23:43
My pleasure  :)
Cd7 as transport n na11 as dac? 

Hi Francis, Yes, CD7 as transport and streaming via my Synology DS413.

So I guess you are buying that one on sale?
Get the PM 11s3...

Pete, I did not see any NA11 on sale.  I thought it was already sold last week in the HT sales thread.  As for PM11S3, I read the sterling review in the Absolute Sound.  A great integrated amp.  However, I am worried that it may not have enough juice to drive my speakers.  I am also considering the Marantz flagship SC7S2 and MA9S2 but was told that the local agent will not be bringing in.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: francishuang on May 26, 2014, 23:47
Hi Francis, Yes, CD7 as transport and streaming via my Synology DS413.

Pete, I did not see any NA11 on sale.  I thought it was already sold last week in the HT sales thread.  As for PM11S3, I read the sterling review in the Absolute Sound.  A great integrated amp.  However, I am worried that it may not have enough juice to drive my speakers.  I am also considering the Marantz flagship SC7S2 and MA9S2 but was told that the local agent will not be bringing in.

Happy playing with coaxial cables!
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on June 02, 2014, 19:07
I wonder who bought that NA11 eventually..
Annapurna, how's your unit?
Did you buy a gold one or black?
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: annapurna on June 02, 2014, 20:15
I wonder who bought that NA11 eventually..
Annapurna, how's your unit?
Did you buy a gold one or black?


Hi Pete,  I've not bought my unit yet as I am still waiting to move to my new home in Sep/Oct timeframe.  Unless there is a price increase soon, I will buy after moving in.  I will go for gold colour as it will match my other eqpt.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: francishuang on June 02, 2014, 21:32
Annapura,
I have another friend letting go ard yr end too, wana hook u up with him?
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: annapurna on June 02, 2014, 21:54
Annapura,
I have another friend letting go ard yr end too, wana hook u up with him?
Hi Francis, already PM you.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on June 03, 2014, 20:27
Hi Pete,  I've not bought my unit yet as I am still waiting to move to my new home in Sep/Oct timeframe.  Unless there is a price increase soon, I will buy after moving in.  I will go for gold colour as it will match my other eqpt.

Ha, thought of swopping out my black to match my gold..

Anyway, use the best XLR cable you can, the sound from the RCA is different from the XLR, so YMMV..
Jay Audio custom made some MIT digital cables and a Belden XLR cable for me.

If you are buying from him, maybe you can also ask him to try that for starters, but if your budget allows it, I believe the NA 11 will reward you with even better sound..

Cheers.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Hass on June 03, 2014, 21:23
Anyway, use the best XLR cable you can, the sound from the RCA is different from the XLR, so YMMV..
Jay Audio custom made some MIT digital cables and a Belden XLR cable for me.

If you are buying from him, maybe you can also ask him to try that for starters, but if your budget allows it, I believe the NA 11 will reward you with even better sound..

Cheers.

Should try the NBS cables as well! very addictive
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Goldberg on June 03, 2014, 21:25
Should try the NBS cables as well! very addictive

+1
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on June 03, 2014, 21:27
Should try the NBS cables as well! very addictive
$$$$ ;)
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Hass on June 03, 2014, 21:35
Even the serpent level is good enough. of cos u get more as u move closer to the statement but serpent represent good value. And if I recall correctly, Jay's prices are better than direct USD conversion.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: mystream on June 03, 2014, 22:00
Must try black label....cannot tahan when you plug it it...but very $$$$....but as per advise by Jay Audio...some room might not be able to "take" the extra dynamic of these cables...
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: annapurna on June 03, 2014, 22:20
Ha, thought of swopping out my black to match my gold..

Anyway, use the best XLR cable you can, the sound from the RCA is different from the XLR, so YMMV..
Jay Audio custom made some MIT digital cables and a Belden XLR cable for me.

If you are buying from him, maybe you can also ask him to try that for starters, but if your budget allows it, I believe the NA 11 will reward you with even better sound..

Cheers.

Thanks Pete for the additional advice.  When you say XLR cable, are you referring to XLR analog cable out to preamp?  If this is the case, I must get a preamp with XLR analog input.  As for digital, does coaxial sound better than optical on the Marantz NA11?  Anyone knows whether there will be a price increase soon?  If yes, I have to grab one soon.  If not, i will wait until Aug/Sep.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Hass on June 03, 2014, 23:13
Must try black label....cannot tahan when you plug it it...but very $$$$....but as per advise by Jay Audio...some room might not be able to "take" the extra dynamic of these cables...

haha sorry... I'm only a dragonfly and signature user. Actually after so many years with NBS, maybe I'll try something that is less dynamic and more refinement with holographic feel.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on June 05, 2014, 16:01
Coaxial versus optical is a perennial debate ..
Iirc a bro also recommended me Steve's own concotions too ..
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on June 08, 2014, 22:49
A few bros have asked me, so I always say, it's easier to post here..
I got my PM 11 nd NA 11 from Jay Audio, but Alpha Audio and some other dealers will also carry it.
I think Marantz prices are still very competitive locally, but don't buy something just because it's cheap. System matching is very important.
Jay will give you solid prices, and it should be under 6k for the PM 11, but the price of the NA 11 has gone up, since the AV show promotion.
Check with him for the latest.
Cheers.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: yongkg on June 09, 2014, 09:55
Hi, NA 8005 had been issued and hope that it will match with our budget PM Pearl Lite ...
http://www.marantz.co.uk/uk/products/pages/productdetails.aspx?catid=networkproducts&subcatid=networkaudioplayer&productid=na8005
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: mystream on June 09, 2014, 15:17
Jay told me he has 2 units of the NA11 left, not sure of the color. After these 2 units, price will definitely goes up.

Regards
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Goldberg on June 09, 2014, 15:56
A friend just reserved one unit of na11 from Jay.


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Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Hass on June 28, 2014, 08:04
Anyone knows if there is a successor to the UD7007? Looking for a player to play sacd, blu ray audio and video. mainly music rather than video. If there's a newer model in less than 6 mths, prefer to wait.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: annapurna on July 05, 2014, 16:48
Finally got the NA11 and it is working well with my Synology DS413 using ethernet.

(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x309/Mezzoutopia/Marantz%20NA11%20Airtight%20ATC%202/IMG-20140705-WA0004_zpscf0f6db7.jpg) (http://s185.photobucket.com/user/Mezzoutopia/media/Marantz%20NA11%20Airtight%20ATC%202/IMG-20140705-WA0004_zpscf0f6db7.jpg.html)

And it will be paired with this which I got it last night also :)

(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x309/Mezzoutopia/Marantz%20NA11%20Airtight%20ATC%202/20140705_114248_zps4a284d90.jpg) (http://s185.photobucket.com/user/Mezzoutopia/media/Marantz%20NA11%20Airtight%20ATC%202/20140705_114248_zps4a284d90.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: cstanxpl on July 05, 2014, 17:42
This is a seriously beautiful piece of equipment.

(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x309/Mezzoutopia/Marantz%20NA11%20Airtight%20ATC%202/IMG-20140705-WA0004_zpscf0f6db7.jpg) (http://s185.photobucket.com/user/Mezzoutopia/media/Marantz%20NA11%20Airtight%20ATC%202/IMG-20140705-WA0004_zpscf0f6db7.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Hass on July 06, 2014, 11:11
surprisingly it's better through Dlna than usb. very energetic sounding n highly detailed, sounds almost like not a marantz.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: annapurna on July 06, 2014, 14:13
This is a seriously beautiful piece of equipment.


Yes, the NA11 build quality is impeccable. There is no regret buying it.  So far playing thru my Senn HD800, the sound quality is excellent as what Pete described in a previous post. The internet radio station is fun and I've been enjoying Jazz and 80's New Wave from UK stations.  The local radio station sound quality is extremely poor quality.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: poh1 on July 06, 2014, 14:34
Hi everyone !

Just brought the last piece of NA 8005 from Jay.

Just wondering is there any sound quality difference between the NA11 Vs NA 8005...

Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: mystream on July 06, 2014, 17:22
Best don't compare... Else you have to spend at least twice the money on the Na11... ☺
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: AndrewC on July 06, 2014, 22:09
...
Just wondering is there any sound quality difference between the NA11 Vs NA 8005...

Best don't compare... Else you have to spend at least twice the money on the Na11... ☺

Not to rain on anyone's parade  :-*... it may not be that bad actually; the NA8005 uses a much better (and newer) DAC chip than the NA11 does, which should manifest as much better DSD playback.... So, the flagship is under pressure for an update  ;D
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on July 06, 2014, 22:23
Is there a point in debating after the purchase?

Enjoy the product...
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: AndrewC on July 06, 2014, 22:38
Is there a point in debating after the purchase?

Enjoy the product...

You're suggesting he can't upgrade (either now or in the future)?

If there's no point discussing anything after one's purchased some component, then maybe everyone should stop posting anything on XP since presumably we've all bought components already...  ::)

Please don't be a party pooper.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on July 06, 2014, 22:41
You're suggesting he can't upgrade (either now or in the future)?

If there's no point discussing anything after one's purchased some component, then maybe everyone should stop posting anything on XP since presumably we've all bought components already...  ::)

Please don't be a party pooper.
Have you thought how it will feel if we tell someone his purchase is bad?
Anyway, I always wonder why ask AFTER buying?
 ::)
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: AndrewC on July 06, 2014, 22:46
Have you thought how it will feel if we tell someone his purchase is bad?
Anyway, I always wonder why ask AFTER buying?
 ::)

I'm sure Poh1 is an adult, he asked to know. Why should you deny him knowing which is better, even if it is after his purchase? Just because you can't understand why ask after buying doesn't mean others have to follow your thinking.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on July 06, 2014, 22:49
I'm sure Poh1 is an adult, he asked to know. Why should you deny him knowing which is better, even if it is after his purchase? Just because you can't understand why ask after buying doesn't mean others have to follow your thinking.
I am sure your respected opinion on the two DACs is eagerly awaited, so what is your learned opinion ?
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: AndrewC on July 06, 2014, 22:54
I am sure your respected opinion on the two DACs is eagerly awaited, so what is your learned opinion ?

Is that the best you can do?... ::)

Besides, I've already given my opinion, read 3 posts back. I'm sure others will be happy to contribute their opinions as well without having you shut them down for no good reason.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on July 06, 2014, 22:57
Is that the best you can do?... ::)

Besides, I've already given my opinion, read 3 posts back. I'm sure others will be happy to contribute their opinions as well without having you shut them down for no good reason.
Have I asked anyone to shut up? Well with the exception of you...
I simply asked the buyer to enjoy his new product..
You are the one calling others names, and this isn't the first time.
If you have used both of these products, please share your opinion instead of calling others party poopers.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: AndrewC on July 06, 2014, 23:01
Have I asked anyone to shut up? Well with the exception of you...
I simply asked the buyer to enjoy his new product..
You are the one calling others names, and this isn't the first time.
If you have used both of these products, please share your opinion instead of calling others party poopers.

No, you didn't simply ask him to enjoy his product, you suggested he not ask at all... let me remind you;

Is there a point in debating after the purchase?

Enjoy the product...

By the way, "party pooper" is more accurately an adjective, not a noun. ;D
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on July 06, 2014, 23:07
No, you didn't simply ask him to enjoy his product, you suggested he not ask at all... let me remind you;

By the way, "party pooper" is more accurately an adjective, not a noun. ;D
Precisely, I did Not ask him to keep quiet.
If you wish to be pedantic, make sure you are truly accurate ..
Ever heard the phrase about "he who casts the first stone?"...
Think about that before you name call and point out deficits in the standard of English of other members in XP.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on July 06, 2014, 23:08
Yes, the NA11 build quality is impeccable. There is no regret buying it.  So far playing thru my Senn HD800, the sound quality is excellent as what Pete described in a previous post. The internet radio station is fun and I've been enjoying Jazz and 80's New Wave from UK stations.  The local radio station sound quality is extremely poor quality.
Now back to meaningful sonic discussions...

So bro, did you get that off the bro who was selling it in the forum recently?
Give it some time to run in, and experiment with cables if you can.
I use a dedicated line for it and my Oppo..
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: AndrewC on July 06, 2014, 23:11
Precisely, I did Not ask him to keep quiet.
...

No, but you suggested that theres no point in debating, and I merely pointed out that there's good reasons to debate, even if it is after a purchase. If you can't understand that, too bad for you :)
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: poh1 on July 06, 2014, 23:12
Maybe we can have a shootout on both players to decide the winner ;D

Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on July 06, 2014, 23:13
Hi everyone !

Just brought the last piece of NA 8005 from Jay.

Just wondering is there any sound quality difference between the NA11 Vs NA 8005...


If you are really keen to listen and will consider changing up to the NA 11, you can pm me for a demo and bring your unit.
If not, then I suggest you don't worry too much and enjoy your new purchase, cheers.

I don't think there is a point in debating, instead I offer my set for you to try out.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: annapurna on July 06, 2014, 23:14
Now back to meaningful sonic discussions...

So bro, did you get that off the bro who was selling it in the forum recently?
Give it some time to run in, and experiment with cables if you can.
I use a dedicated line for it and my Oppo..

Pete, yes got it from him.  It is 1.5 months old and is still under warranty and no point for me to wait any longer. I am not sure it is even run-in.  I will be running it off my PS Audio PPP on a dedicated line with Kimber Palladian PK10 when I move to my new location. 
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: cayinist on July 07, 2014, 00:05
By the way, "party pooper" is more accurately an adjective, not a noun. ;D

Lol. This is a good 'un. Didnt think of this before.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: annapurna on July 09, 2014, 12:08
How do I play music stored in a 1 or 2 TB HDD directly via the front USB port of the Marantz NA11?  I connect it directly via a USB cable and the format is not supported.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: poh1 on July 10, 2014, 08:18
I tried to connect my 2TB hdd without any success ???

Can anyone kind soul give advice?

I did play the music by USB Thumbdrive after format with FAT 32.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: annapurna on July 10, 2014, 12:36
I tried to connect my 2TB hdd without any success ???

Can anyone kind soul give advice?

I did play the music by USB Thumbdrive after format with FAT 32.

Both of us are having the same problem :(  Maybe it is the naming of the folder in the HDD that cause the NA11 being unable to read the files.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Wenda on July 10, 2014, 12:57
Your drive may not have enough power to begin with. The USB power from the Marantz unit is not enough to power up a spinning drive in a lot of cases. You will need to get those external casing with split USB cable which one handle data and another handle the 5V power.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: pokingpine on July 10, 2014, 14:34
I have not been following the thread from the beginning. I wonder if anyone has given an impression of the Marantz SA KI Pearl limited (500 pcs) edition.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: AndrewC on July 10, 2014, 18:58
Your drive may not have enough power to begin with. The USB power from the Marantz unit is not enough to power up a spinning drive in a lot of cases. You will need to get those external casing with split USB cable which one handle data and another handle the 5V power.

You’re probably spot on… it’s even stated in the manual (http://m.us.marantz.com/DocumentMaster/US/Model%20NA-11S1%20Owners%20Manual.pdf) (page 34);

Quote
Marantz does not guarantee that all USB memory devices will operate or receive power. When using a portable USB connection type HDD of the kind to which an AC adapter can be connected to supply power, use the AC adapter.

Should be solvable by using a simple Powered USB Hub to connect both NA11 and HDD.

(Disclaimer: I don’t own any Marantz gear… I’m just being a nosey-parker [Adj] ;D)
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on July 20, 2014, 08:07
The new PM 7005 is out:
http://www.marantz.co.uk/uk/products/pages/productdetails.aspx?catid=hifi&subcatid=amplifier&productid=pm7005



Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Wenda on July 20, 2014, 13:43
I have not been following the thread from the beginning. I wonder if anyone has given an impression of the Marantz SA KI Pearl limited (500 pcs) edition.

Maybe a late reply but as I have been using both SA-KI Pearl and PM-KI Pearl for quite a long time. This is probably the strongest case of audio related purchase that illustrates money well spent. To be more specific, the SA-KI Pearl offers superb SACD and CD playback capability that in some cases surpasses that of SA-11S2 (the older reference model with different DAC). It comes with two selectable filters, my preference being on filter 2 for both SACD and CD. This player comes with DAC capability, a basic one. The only choice you have is sending signal offer Toslink that is limited to 24/96. I did this for quite some time to get rid of buzz/hum from Starhub set top box and as a temporary receiver for my HTPC.

The player really shines when playing DSD layer on SACD. Having previously owned the EMM Labs combo, I would say for the price you are paying for, SA-KI Pearl is well worth the money. However, in light of its rarity and relatively high price for this gear, I would still suggest you get the higher end SA-11S3 or the DAC only NA-11S1.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: poh1 on July 24, 2014, 23:15
Is there anyone using UD7007?

Mind share with me on how is the SQ in cd

 ::)
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: kzone on July 24, 2014, 23:23
Is there anyone using UD7007?

Mind share with me on how is the SQ in cd

 ::)

u can pm bro Cash if he doesn't reply here. I heard it at his place, like it much better than oppo 95/105. (in different setups) never had the chance to compare both in the same system.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: CASH on July 24, 2014, 23:37
tomoro morning at 8am i am goin overseas..
sunday i will be back from my overseas trip (early morning i will be back..)
i stay in pasir ris st 21, blk 236, S(510236)
if u r interested u can come down to listen to the UD7007..
for stereo, its connected via XLR to parasound p5 pre-amp...
for home theatre, its connected via hdmi to onkyo 5010...
HP-96660233-Cash...
but don't sms me, from now until sunday morning...thanks...
cheers!
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: poh1 on July 25, 2014, 06:42
Thank to bro Kzone and bro cash.

Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: pokingpine on August 16, 2014, 13:40
Thanks for the response. Bought the sa ki out of folly. Am using CD3t n dac3.5vb of belcanto for quite sometime. I agree with n I was quite impressed with the sacd performance. I just find the output level too low on the pearl. My main source has always been vinyl tho my CD collection exceeds 2000 pcs. Sacds only a handful of probably less than 40 pcs
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: lkypeter on August 17, 2014, 01:39
Have the SA11S2 for a few years. It uses a proprietary FPGA instead of general purpose chips like those from AD, ESS, TI because the latter is produced in the millions therefore the low cost. FPGA does not = better sound or quality. Teac esoteric is also moving out of FPGA to stock chips in their new line up.


Maybe a late reply but as I have been using both SA-KI Pearl and PM-KI Pearl for quite a long time. This is probably the strongest case of audio related purchase that illustrates money well spent. To be more specific, the SA-KI Pearl offers superb SACD and CD playback capability that in some cases surpasses that of SA-11S2 (the older reference model with different DAC). It comes with two selectable filters, my preference being on filter 2 for both SACD and CD. This player comes with DAC capability, a basic one. The only choice you have is sending signal offer Toslink that is limited to 24/96. I did this for quite some time to get rid of buzz/hum from Starhub set top box and as a temporary receiver for my HTPC.

The player really shines when playing DSD layer on SACD. Having previously owned the EMM Labs combo, I would say for the price you are paying for, SA-KI Pearl is well worth the money. However, in light of its rarity and relatively high price for this gear, I would still suggest you get the higher end SA-11S3 or the DAC only NA-11S1.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: AndrewC on August 17, 2014, 08:05
Have the SA11S2 for a few years. It uses a proprietary FPGA instead of general purpose chips like those from AD, ESS, TI because the latter is produced in the millions therefore the low cost. FPGA does not = better sound or quality. Teac esoteric is also moving out of FPGA to stock chips in their new line up.

Actually Peter, the SA-11S2 uses off-the-shelf DAC chips, not FPGAs. In typical Japanese fashion, they use domestic Japanese suppliers, in this case the Seiko NPC SM5866AS (http://www.npcamerica.com/pdf/SM5866AS.pdf) (it's even listed on Marantz' product page itself - http://www.marantz.jp/jp/Products/Pages/ProductDetails.aspx?Catid=HiFi&SubCatId=SACDCDPlayer&ProductId=SA11S2 (http://www.marantz.jp/jp/Products/Pages/ProductDetails.aspx?Catid=HiFi&SubCatId=SACDCDPlayer&ProductId=SA11S2)… click on the [特長・機能] tab (Features & Functionality) :)

Similarly, Esoteric has always typically used Asahi Kasei Microdevices (AKM) chips, I don’t recall them ever using FPGAs.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: pokingpine on August 18, 2014, 19:05
Maybe a late reply but as I have been using both SA-KI Pearl and PM-KI Pearl for quite a long time. This is probably the strongest case of audio related purchase that illustrates money well spent. To be more specific, the SA-KI Pearl offers superb SACD and CD playback capability that in some cases surpasses that of SA-11S2 (the older reference model with different DAC). It comes with two selectable filters, my preference being on filter 2 for both SACD and CD. This player comes with DAC capability, a basic one. The only choice you have is sending signal offer Toslink that is limited to 24/96. I did this for quite some time to get rid of buzz/hum from Starhub set top box and as a temporary receiver for my HTPC.

The player really shines when playing DSD layer on SACD. Having previously owned the EMM Labs combo, I would say for the price you are paying for, SA-KI Pearl is well worth the money. However, in light of its rarity and relatively high price for this gear, I would still suggest you get the higher end SA-11S3 or the DAC only NA-11S1.
I'm unlikely to go any further on digital n sacd player unless times comes for upgrading technology.

Frankly, I hardly play cds or sacds though I listen to music  for hours a couple times a week on vinyl. Hence, I might just get rid of the pearl soon someday.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: jacklim on August 19, 2014, 13:17
hi. where is the service center for Marantz?  is their service / repair satisfactory? tks
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Epicure2 on August 19, 2014, 13:42
You can call to check the service charge...

Singapore Service Center
Address:
TRINITY AV SERVICES
19 Jalan Kilang Barat, Acetech Centre, #03-06, Singapore 159361
Tel : +65-6273-7955 Fax : +65-6273-9455
E-Mail: trinityavservices@live.com

Opening Hours:
Monday - Friday, 9:30am - 6pm
Saturday, 9:30am - 12pm
Closed on Sundays & Public Holidays
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: jacklim on August 19, 2014, 16:43
Epicure2. thanks
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: annapurna on September 21, 2014, 12:49
A friend who is a newbie is has a budget of about 5k to spend on a marantz sacd player, amp and a pair of speakers.   Any folks here has a good recomendation on which Marantz combo to get?
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Wenda on September 21, 2014, 13:54
Get the SA8005 along with a used PM-KI or a used PM-11S2. The combo would cost about 3K, leaving an extra 2K for speakers and interconnect. However, I can suggest an alternative combo that I have been using: source for below 1K (the SA8005 is pushing this budget) then get a cheap used integrated amp with excellent sound such as C.E.C AMP3800 that I am still using (< 600 bucks). It's essentially BMC Audio on a super budget.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on September 21, 2014, 14:56
The PM11 used available on the forum is a good base. Add a used totem arro or MA speaker and add the SA 8005 as mentioned.
But if he can stretch it the NA 11 is nice too.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: annapurna on September 21, 2014, 18:23
Thanks Wenda and Pete for the recommendations.  My friend went down a Marantz dealer and was recommended the following combination - Marantz PM15S2, SA14S1 and Elac speakers.  I think the Elac speakers will be out of  his budget if he is following this combination.  So buying used and new as per your advice would make sense.  Marantz NA11S1 is definitely out of his budget :) Which would be a good dealer to buy Marantz?
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: mystream on September 21, 2014, 18:49
You can call Jay Audio.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Goldberg on September 21, 2014, 19:45
Marantz also has a lower model NA-8005 for those on a budget and does not want spend too much on NA-11.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Funkyjazz on September 22, 2014, 11:08
Get the SA8005 along with a used PM-KI or a used PM-11S2. The combo would cost about 3K, leaving an extra 2K for speakers and interconnect. However, I can suggest an alternative combo that I have been using: source for below 1K (the SA8005 is pushing this budget) then get a cheap used integrated amp with excellent sound such as C.E.C AMP3800 that I am still using (< 600 bucks). It's essentially BMC Audio on a super budget.
Thanks Wenda for your earlier recommendation when I pm you, I have bought the SA8005. As compare to my previous Oppo 83SE(mod by Sound Affair), its much better and musical. Loving it!!
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: yongkg on September 22, 2014, 12:49
Hi, any advice whether can SA8005 be synced with PM KI Pearl lite or Marantz higher end PM model ? Thnks.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: mystream on September 22, 2014, 16:30
What do you meant by "sync", are you talking about synergy between all this model?

If you talking about synergy, I don't see why not. IMO, you will be getting better sound if you have 1 or 2 premium series in your system.

 
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: annapurna on September 22, 2014, 17:27
Thanks Wenda and Pete for the recommendations.  My friend went down a Marantz dealer and was recommended the following combination - Marantz PM15S2, SA14S1 and Elac speakers.  I think the Elac speakers will be out of  his budget if he is following this combination.  So buying used and new as per your advice would make sense.  Marantz NA11S1 is definitely out of his budget :) Which would be a good dealer to buy Marantz?

I visited the Marantz Singapore website and Marantz PM15S2 is not there.  I can see PM14.  Is PM15S2 obsoleted?  Is it better to get PM14 instead of PM15?
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Wenda on September 22, 2014, 18:11
PM14 is a higher end range than PM15. The PM11S2 is way better in my opinion. Getting a used set makes plenty of sense. You can stick brand new for the SA8005 source then can add a DAC/Network Player at later time since owner's requirement is SACD player. Speaker wise, best to audition and suit to personal taste. PM11 can handle a wide range of speakers. What is the room size, listening distance, and room layout that you are planning to put the system on? Type of music? Then we can recommend whether to go bookshelf or floorstand.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: tzboxz on September 23, 2014, 19:31
the Pm15s2 is just an older model of the pm14
the pm15s2 limited edition is the newer model to the 15s2 with some modifications for power

essentially these 3 models are pretty much in the same league/range
pm15s2--> pm15s2 LE --> pm14
and also price

its akin to
11s1 to 11s2 with slight modifications
the 11 is the top reference range
the 14/15 is the 2nd top reference range (slightly less power)

sonically, ur mileage may vary
some say no difference, some say world of difference

if u get the pm15s2 get the LE version
if u get the 11s , get the 11s2 if u need the power direct in option to incorporate a home theatre
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on September 23, 2014, 20:22
IMO, the PM 11 is in a different league, and doubles it's power into 4ohms, making it far more flexible in speaker choice.
The PM 15 series didn't seem to garner as much praise..

Most shops sell the lower end ones, so City Electronics, KEC, Alpha Audio are also options. I am not sure if Jay Audio brings in the more budget ones, but no harm asking him.

Speaker choices is pretty personal, so he should audition within his budget. The Marantz amps tend to sound warm, so you can also consider brighter sounding speakers from MA etc if that suits him..
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: annapurna on September 23, 2014, 23:22
Thanks to all for your valuable comments, input and advice.  I tried to contact Jay today and he is not in Singapore.  Will have to bring my friend to Jay Audio and do some comparison between the SA8005 against SA14, the PM15S2 (not sure whether limited edition is available here) against the PM14.  The PM11S3 is definitely out of my friend's budget.   As for speakers, will have to see which brand Jay carries and audition there.  Ultimately he will be the one to decide what he wants.  He has heard some other brands but he seemed to like the Marantz house sound.  I think all of us here are Marantz fans too :)
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: mystream on September 24, 2014, 00:45
Thanks to all for your valuable comments, input and advice.  I tried to contact Jay today and he is not in Singapore.  Will have to bring my friend to Jay Audio and do some comparison between the SA8005 against SA14, the PM15S2 (not sure whether limited edition is available here) against the PM14.  The PM11S3 is definitely out of my friend's budget.   As for speakers, will have to see which brand Jay carries and audition there.  Ultimately he will be the one to decide what he wants.  He has heard some other brands but he seemed to like the Marantz house sound.  I think all of us here are Marantz fans too :)

Try this coming Thursday, after 3pm, best call Jay before you make your way there. I remember seeing some SA8005 in his shop.

Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Funkyjazz on September 24, 2014, 21:11
Thanks to all for your valuable comments, input and advice.  I tried to contact Jay today and he is not in Singapore.  Will have to bring my friend to Jay Audio and do some comparison between the SA8005 against SA14, the PM15S2 (not sure whether limited edition is available here) against the PM14.  The PM11S3 is definitely out of my friend's budget.   As for speakers, will have to see which brand Jay carries and audition there.  Ultimately he will be the one to decide what he wants.  He has heard some other brands but he seemed to like the Marantz house sound.  I think all of us here are Marantz fans too :)
SA8005 can play DSD files, I am not sure SA14. If you don't intend to play DSD, you have wider choice.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: pcie on September 24, 2014, 21:12
Side track abit, using a PM11S2 here. What power cord is good? Thanks!


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Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: tapedeck on September 26, 2014, 17:23
hi. where is the service center for Marantz?  is their service / repair satisfactory? tks

I just got back my very old Cd player back from Trinity AV Services PL.
I had the 4 belts changed.
Now it is working smoothly and touch wood I hope it will continue to so do.
Just don't push or hurry them.

Alice is a friendly receptionist and Mr Wong is a nice chap and understanding what needs to be done.

I have another that sometimes the tray comes out after being closed. According to him it is the Sensor which I understand is not the same as the Drive or the Laser.

I just wonder whether if Senors are difficult to buy on the market particularly spoilt Cd player to cannibalise. Anyone know if the Sensor is interchangeable between CD94 and Cd94MkII ? Just checking around in case one is required.
Thanks

 
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on October 12, 2014, 16:56
Answering a pm here:

The PM 11 is more of a quantum leap than the PM 15, which did not garner as many good reviews.
The PM 11 can double it's power into 4ohms, so if your speaker is harder to drive, this is a very solid amp that can handle difficult speakers.
If the price of the PM 15 is more realistic, then it is ok, but the PM 11 will withstand upgrades better when you get tired of the 683. The PM 11 is a bit of an overkill for this speaker.




Post instead of pm so others can learn...

Quote
Seeking your kind opinion that I am having Marantz PM Pearl Lite whether my upgrading should be a used PM15S2LE at S$1.7 or save further to get a PM11S3?

Speaker B&W 683S2 and genre music general
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: leslens on October 13, 2014, 10:01
Hi
im letting go of a pm15s2 LE
anyway the purpose of me replying is to give my honest opinion of the performance of it vs the pm11s3
not to promote my sale

Im sure many are keen to know the sonic difference between the two.
I have both currently in my set up so I believe im reasonably qualified to comment.....

I use a squeezebox touch streaming (wired) from a NAS (wired)
I play files I'm extremely familiar with FLAC 
and i pair them with a Sonus faber veneer 2.5

sonically
the marantz pm15s2 LE and 11s3 are the same. honestly i can't tell the difference between the two. I failed an AB test and my wife too can't tell the difference. The pm11s3 has more power reserve than the pm15s2 LE but this is marginal. If u look at the pm11s3 it really doesn't have That much power.
Im not obsessed with power as I don't think it is a rate limiting specification for both amps.

I have also the emotiva USP and XPA-1 and am very familiar with the sound
the marantz is less harsh on the trebles and does not get hot like the emotivas
the emotivas however are also very good. its really a matter of preference...

Ultimately do not expect huge differences when u change the amp.
I believe this is a fair comment, the sonic differences are subtle and u must be familiar with what you are listening to to pick up the differences.

Of course I love the marantz pm11s3 because the build quality is excellent.... the pm15s2 le also has great build quality but the pm11s3 has a full copper chassis just is a more hefty presence (esp the top cover)

the emotivas on the other hand look cheap and outdated in design. and the real deal breaker of the XPA-1 was the "clicking issue" of the inherent design....
The marantz is dead silent

ultimately your mileage may vary, u may argue that my squeezebox DAC may not be resolving enough to pick up the differences. I could however pick up the difference in the house sound of marantz and emotiva.

cheers!
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: mystream on October 13, 2014, 21:13
For those interested in Marantz products, you might want to hold your horses....I believe there will be a promotion in the upcoming AV show schedule in Nov.

Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: pcie on October 13, 2014, 21:15
What is the AV show in Nov..?


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Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on October 13, 2014, 21:19
What is the AV show in Nov..?


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http://www.xtremeplace.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=177011.0

Let's see if Jay Audio comes up with anything too...
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: pcie on October 13, 2014, 21:21
I see.. Most probably SR7009..?


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Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: dXter on October 14, 2014, 09:04
When are the new BD universal player coming? City Elec is no longer selling the BDx007 series since new ones coming in.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: pcie on October 14, 2014, 09:26
Are there new UD coming? I just bought the 7007 :o


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Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: tzboxz on October 14, 2014, 15:33
any news on replacement of the ud7007 ? if true i would be v keen on that
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Alonso1 on October 26, 2014, 10:36
hi bros,

   not sure of this has been posted here.
   is the Marantz HD DAC1 available locally? if yes, any idea on the price? is this a strip down version of the NA8005 or SA8005? thanks

http://www.marantz.co.uk/uk/products/pages/productdetails.aspx?catid=hifi&subcatid=usbdaconverters&productid=hddac1 (http://www.marantz.co.uk/uk/products/pages/productdetails.aspx?catid=hifi&subcatid=usbdaconverters&productid=hddac1)
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: RAYRAY on October 29, 2014, 23:30
Can NA-11S1 supports DoPE, DSD over PCM via Ethernet from Synology NAS with minimserver installed?
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: milk_vanilla on October 29, 2014, 23:41
Nope, only over USB input for dsd at the moment.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: RAYRAY on October 30, 2014, 09:13
Thank you.

Will a future firmware upgrade able to make NA-11S1 supports DoPE DSD via Ethernet?

Nope, only over USB input for dsd at the moment.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: dXter on October 30, 2014, 09:52
If it's a standard, that will be in a future product.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: RAYRAY on October 30, 2014, 16:13
In that case, look like, currently, the PS Audio DS can supports DoPE DSD via Ethernet only unless I am incorrect.
I was hoping NA11-S1 can do the job, but, shall wait for newer DAC which supports DoPE DSD via Ethernet beside PSA.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: dXter on October 31, 2014, 12:05
I think the Lumin does DoPE too. Can defer to Audio.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: milk_vanilla on October 31, 2014, 19:10
Indeed lumin does DoPE, i was the victim over this similar situation.

Sorry marantz OOT.


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Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: RAYRAY on November 01, 2014, 13:45
Thank you guys.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: denon2311 on November 02, 2014, 17:05
Hi
Anyone using PM8005 ? Please share this experience !


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Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Goldberg on November 04, 2014, 22:09
Was at Jay Audio earlier this evening. He was playing PM8005 with SA8005 & NA8005 via Dynaudio Audience 72SE.

I'm amazed at its performance especially the price. Anyway he'd mention there'll be a very special promotion price plus 2 years warranty for the 8005 series during the coming Hifi show.

Better to have a listen for yourself at Jay Audio if you are keen.


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Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Hass on November 05, 2014, 15:07
goldberg, where do u get Jade Audio stuffs?
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Goldberg on November 05, 2014, 15:11
It's a new product from Jay Audio which he will be launching at the Hifi show.

HK audiophile magazine also asking to review this footers.

Can check with Jay Audio for more information.


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Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Hass on November 05, 2014, 15:16
It's a new product from Jay Audio which he will be launching at the Hifi show.

HK audiophile magazine also asking to review this footers.

Can check with Jay Audio for more information.


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oh, Jade Audio is Jay Audio? i thought is a hkg product. My Indonesian friend heard about it in HKG abt 2 mths back. There are cables as well
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Goldberg on November 05, 2014, 15:21
No cable only isolation footers for now. Old models is IsoDuo.

The completely new range is called IsoGen2.


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Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Hass on November 05, 2014, 15:24
so different company fm this? (sorry big pic)

(http://www.audio-serum.si/assets/second-hand/14/jade.JPG)
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Goldberg on November 05, 2014, 15:47
Jay Audio sells only NBS Cable from USA.

http://cablefan.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/IMG_0457.jpg

http://images.audioasylum.com/usr/y2008/11/14264/IMG_2924.JPG
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: leslens on December 06, 2014, 20:47
just purchased the NA11s1
nice piece of equipment
as i have the PM11s3

I'm just wondering whether there is any point to run XLR instead of RCA
and if so, do I need specially made XLR cables? ( i know marantz uses reverse polarity or something)

I know XLR is only advantageous in long cable runs, but i can't help feel that it won't hurt since i have a ton of cables running thru a very small space at the back of my rack

any idea guys?
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: CASH on December 06, 2014, 21:11
XLR gives you higher DB (Decibels)...
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on December 06, 2014, 21:58
I use xlr and don't worry about polarity as you are using two marantz models.
The jason the bass guru once let me listen and I felt the RCA give a more analogue and warmer feel ..
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: leslens on December 06, 2014, 23:18
Thanks Pete and Cash
Im actually already very happy with the sound

would shop for a decent value XLR
looking at either emotiva XLR or go LHS...
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on December 07, 2014, 00:28
I got mine from Jay Audio... custom length... using Belden cables... you can ask him if he will help you make one...
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: pcie on December 07, 2014, 01:02
Using XLR to PM11S2 too. Thought it sounded a bit louder but could be psychologically effected


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Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: cstanxpl on December 07, 2014, 12:36
XLR has higher voltage output. So it could really sound louder.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on December 07, 2014, 12:56
That's why it's important to volume match before any comparisons of sound quality.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: pcie on December 07, 2014, 14:59
I could have used analog but i used the 'CD input' on PM11S2 for pre-out from AVR..


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Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: leslens on December 07, 2014, 15:11
One more question Pete if u dun mind. How do u get the na11s1 to wake the pm11s3 from standby.

I have them linked from remote out of na11s1 to remote in of pm11s3. When thena11 wakes up and plays. The pm11s3 still remains in standby
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on December 07, 2014, 15:35
One more question Pete if u dun mind. How do u get the na11s1 to wake the pm11s3 from standby.

I have them linked from remote out of na11s1 to remote in of pm11s3. When thena11 wakes up and plays. The pm11s3 still remains in standby

I haven't used the Marantz link sorry... but there are two sockets, one in and the other out, the manual will tell you which one to use... one of them won't work... cheers
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: mingzhen on April 12, 2015, 14:28
Is AIFF supported in NA11S1 for NAS and USB memory playback?
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: AndrewC on April 12, 2015, 22:34
...I have them linked from remote out of na11s1 to remote in of pm11s3. When thena11 wakes up and plays. The pm11s3 still remains in standby

The other way around… OUT from PM to IN on NA (and set to switch to EXT)


Is AIFF supported in NA11S1 for NAS and USB memory playback?

http://www.avrev.com/home-theater-media-servers/music-servers/marantz-na-11s1-network-audio-player-dac-2.html (http://www.avrev.com/home-theater-media-servers/music-servers/marantz-na-11s1-network-audio-player-dac-2.html)
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Via Ethernet, the NA-11S1 handles WAV, lossless codecs FLAC (up to 192kHz) and ALAC (up to 96kHz), as well as lossy codecs WMA, AAC, and MP3. The AIFF format is not specified as a supported format via network, but can be played via the rear USB input. The unit also features access to internet radio, Pandora, Spotify, and Sirius XM.


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Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: mingzhen on April 13, 2015, 09:42
Strange, their lower end model NA8005 can support AIFF in NAS and front USB, but the reference model NA11S1 can't
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on April 13, 2015, 23:25
Strange, their lower end model NA8005 can support AIFF in NAS and front USB, but the reference model NA11S1 can't
The NA 8005 is newer.
My Denon 7200 also supports more formats and you can use itunes to control the volume during Airplay. You can't do that with the NA 11. But with network control and a PM 11 S3, you can still adjust the volume from your seat at the computer. Less elegant, but it works.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: mingzhen on April 14, 2015, 11:36
The NA 8005 is newer.
My Denon 7200 also supports more formats and you can use itunes to control the volume during Airplay. You can't do that with the NA 11. But with network control and a PM 11 S3, you can still adjust the volume from your seat at the computer. Less elegant, but it works.


The reason i asked this is because most of my Cds were ripped in AIFF format. Wow u have a PM11S3!
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on April 14, 2015, 13:26
The reason i asked this is because most of my Cds were ripped in AIFF format. Wow u have a PM11S3!
The PM 11 is a natural partner for the NA11, good synergy. You should audition both of them, Jay Audio should have them. Cheers
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Saycheese78 on April 26, 2015, 15:44
Anyone tried Vibrapod under their Marantz CD player or Amp?  Does it work?

I am wondering as Marantz player are so heavily built.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on May 02, 2015, 10:34
I use the heavier ones, I don't know if it makes a difference, but I use them with my NA 11.
I just put my 28kg PM 11 on the shelf. IMHO, I don't think that one will really benefit from cones / feets.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: annapurna on May 02, 2015, 11:38
I am using Unicones made of wood under my Marantz CD7 and NA11S1. Unicone does make the CD7 sound more transparent and faster.  However, I have not tried the difference for the NA11S1, too lazy to try.  I've tried Goldmund cones and it has a similar effect although the Goldmund cones make the sound drier and more clinical.
Title: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Goldberg on May 02, 2015, 11:56
I believe with good footers under any components is beta than without although it's sitting on a shelf instead of a proper sturdy hifi rack.

My experience is with my Dynaudio Contour 1.3SE used to sit directly on the shelf inside a custom made TV console. Music was very much affected due to the vibration of speaker cabinets on the shelf. After I placed Jade Audio IsoDuo footers underneath the speakers the music improves tremendously and enjoyable. Of cos the result will be beta on a good speaker stands or varies depending on the footers. There are many brands of tuning feet. Very good one also mediocre ones.

Now I'm using the mark2 version, IsoGen2 footers designed by Jay from Jay Audio with even beta result under all my components from laptop, HDD, speakers, CDP, DAC, pre, power amp & isolation boards.


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Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Saycheese78 on May 02, 2015, 12:17
Ok, i tried. not a lot of difference with vibrapod under my cd6003.  looks like native marantz is good
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: nic_wei on May 03, 2015, 15:47
Anyone tried Vibrapod under their Marantz CD player or Amp?  Does it work?

I am wondering as Marantz player are so heavily built.

I was using Vibrapod under my CDP,  it work. After I try Finite Elemente Ceraball later, I sell the Vibrapod.
From then on, I start my FE footer collection.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: limsze on May 08, 2015, 12:09
Need help from Marantz owners to shed some light. I need to choose between PM14s1 and PM11s3 to drive my current Mordount Short Mezzo 8, a three ways floorstand speakers. Currently I am using PM KI Pearl Lite to drive this speakers, I think it is under powered. I also connected CD6004 and Marantz HD-DAC1 to my system.

As you know the price different between PM14s1 and PM11s3 is huge considering my tight budget. I intend to upgrade my PM Pearl Lite to one of this integrated amp. Is PM14s1 good enough to drive Mordount Short Mezzo 8? Is PM14s1 very close to PM11s3 sound quality if not using XLR or balanced cable? Is it worth the amunt spend on PM11s3 if not using its XLR? PM Pearl Lite, PM14s1 and PM13s3 produced power of 75w, 90w and 100w respectively for 8ohm. Looks like the different between 11s3 and 14s1 power is very close, is it worth the money spend if not using XLR? 14s1 does not support XLR. Please share your tought along this line. Thanks. 
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Saycheese78 on May 08, 2015, 17:48
I am in pm lite n will have same headache as you next time. The thing to consider is xlr. Got pple say sa11 xlr out jude.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on May 08, 2015, 17:57
I have the pm 11 but I have not tried the others.
I don't think one should buy an amp just for the xlr input.
Also if you find that there's no diff in sound between the 14 and 11 then you are blessed.
Buy the cheapest that gives you the sound you want.

But power isn't just about the specs.
Did you read more, and see that the pm 11 doubles it's power into 4 ohms and again into 2?
That kind of power needs a solid transformer and caps.
It has been measured that it has been underrated and is about 140-150 w at 8 ohms.
So only you will know if you need that kind of power dynamics.
And when you do upgrade your speakers you don't have to worry about the amp requiring a change.
Listen then see if you can hear the difference.
You may also want to spread the funds more evenly ?
Upgrade the CD player instead of spending it on the pm11.
Both the 14 and 11 are nice amps but I wanted a solid amp with enough opphm to drive my 804d well.
Cheers

BTW
I don't think your speakers are hard to drive.
http://www.goodsound.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=240:mordaunt-short-mezzo-8-loudspeakers&catid=56:equipment-reviews&Itemid=37 (http://www.goodsound.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=240:mordaunt-short-mezzo-8-loudspeakers&catid=56:equipment-reviews&Itemid=37)

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M-S claims a frequency response of 35Hz-22kHz (no limits given), which suggests a fairly full-range speaker. They suggest that the Mezzo 8, with its claimed sensitivity of 89dB and nominal impedance of 4-8 ohms, be driven by a minimum of 15W to make it sing. My 50Wpc integrated amp had no problem driving the Mezzo 8s to very high levels.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Saycheese78 on May 08, 2015, 18:19
There had been na11s1 selling at echoloft for 750 to 1000 recently. 2units. I thought that one typically go for 3k
 Had i got the models mixed up?
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on May 08, 2015, 20:18
There had been na11s1 selling at echoloft for 750 to 1000 recently. 2units. I thought that one typically go for 3k
 Had i got the models mixed up?
If you can find one for such a price, and it's not broken, grab it asap.
In fact point me to it and I will grab another unit for myself.

For bro limsze, the NA11 and PM 14 may be a better upgrade than spending all your $$ on a PM 11.
Using the PM 11 with your current source and speakers seems a little unbalanced.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: yongkg on May 08, 2015, 21:03
Which Marantz SACD player can be better that Sony XA3000ES? Thks.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Saycheese78 on May 08, 2015, 21:39
U dare buy? Before this unit, another unit sold for 1000.
Could be same unit

http://www.echoloft.com/cgi-bin/buysell2/YaBB.pl?board=hifi&action=display&num=1430837999

Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: annapurna on May 08, 2015, 22:32
U dare buy? Before this unit, another unit sold for 1000.
Could be same unit

http://www.echoloft.com/cgi-bin/buysell2/YaBB.pl?board=hifi&action=display&num=1430837999



"Selling my Marantz  NA-11S1 CD player at $760 . After I bought it , I regret".  Btw, NA11S1 is not a CD player.  This could be a very special NA11, probably the only one in the world :)
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on May 08, 2015, 22:40
Well get it in hand, test it then pay :)
But seriously if it's too good to be true .. Well skip it
Two posts and no history
Caveat emptor
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: limsze on May 09, 2015, 13:11
Bro Petetherock, regarding the source of my system, I am using Marantz HD-DAC1. A new product of Marantz mainly function as DAC/USB and headphone amp. From my limited knowledge, this is a first Marantz headphone amp. I use it with Sennheiser HD650 besides as a DAC/Pre-amp for PM Pearl Lite.  Anyone come across this product? I am not sure how much different this Marantz HD-DAC1's RCA output compare to NA11s1. HD-DAC1 has a variable volume RCA output to use as pre-amp, I find it is better than PM Pearl Lite's built-in pre-amp. Yes, I need to know how much different compare to NA11s1 before buying it.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: cstanxpl on May 09, 2015, 17:17
Bro Petetherock, regarding the source of my system, I am using Marantz HD-DAC1. A new product of Marantz mainly function as DAC/USB and headphone amp. From my limited knowledge, this is a first Marantz headphone amp. I use it with Sennheiser HD650 besides as a DAC/Pre-amp for PM Pearl Lite.  Anyone come across this product? I am not sure how much different this Marantz HD-DAC1's RCA output compare to NA11s1. HD-DAC1 has a variable volume RCA output to use as pre-amp, I find it is better than PM Pearl Lite's built-in pre-amp. Yes, I need to know how much different compare to NA11s1 before buying it.


Oh, the HD-DAC1 is available now?

OK, will check the price at the shops.

You using the power in connection on the PM pearl lite right?
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on May 09, 2015, 17:24
I think the headphone amp and the NA 11 are different beasts.
If your main listening mode is the cans, then you don't need to upgrade anything.
But if you are going to use your Mezzo speakers, then your CD 6004 and the Pearl Lite are in a quite different class from the NA 11 and PM 14 / 11.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: limsze on May 11, 2015, 13:48
I am new in hifi, used both the headphone and speaker systems. Have plenty of time since retired. Agree that both 11 reference series are different to HD-DAC1. HD-DAC1 is a good headpone amplifier even it is Marantz first dedicated hp amp. Never try headphone out from NA11s1 or SA/PM11s3 as compare to HD-DAC1.  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: juzzmee on May 18, 2015, 14:13
Hi,
I'm thinking of getting a Integrated Amp in addition to my Marantz SR7007 to drive my PMC GB1i when listening to music. This should be connect using the pre outs, correct me if i'm wrong. Does anyone have any idea if I should get a Marantz Integrated amp or of another brand? I'm looking at something not more than 1.5K.

thanks,
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: wylee on May 18, 2015, 14:32
Need some advise from Bros here. I have been using Marantz SA11S2 for some years now. A few weeks ago I have been having some problems with the CD tray. Everytime I open the CD tray it will pop out only to retract back into the machine immediately. Only upon opening it a few times, then it will stop at opened position for me to insert the disc. Which part of the machine is out of order? the tray or some internal circuit board? Where can I get it fixed. I also need a replacement remote control for the player where can I buy one?

Thanks
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on May 18, 2015, 20:17
Need some advise from Bros here. I have been using Marantz SA11S2 for some years now. A few weeks ago I have been having some problems with the CD tray. Everytime I open the CD tray it will pop out only to retract back into the machine immediately. Only upon opening it a few times, then it will stop at opened position for me to insert the disc. Which part of the machine is out of order? the tray or some internal circuit board? Where can I get it fixed. I also need a replacement remote control for the player where can I buy one?

Thanks
The natural place will be their service centre, Trinity, where you can buy a remote, but that won't be cheap.
You can also use a Logitech remote and program it, or for simple functions, most Philips and Marantz remotes will work.
As for alternate repairs, you can get some of the more popular repairs stores to look at the CD drive and see if that needs some work or replacement.
Have a look at the sticky above for places to repair.
There's a bro called Mivec here that may be able to help too.
Good luck
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: annapurna on May 18, 2015, 20:26
The natural place will be their service centre, Trinity, where you can buy a remote, but that won't be cheap.
You can also use a Logitech remote and program it, or for simple functions, most Philips and Marantz remotes will work.
As for alternate repairs, you can get some of the more popular repairs stores to look at the CD drive and see if that needs some work or replacement.
Have a look at the sticky above for places to repair.
There's a bro called Mivec here that may be able to help too.
Good luck

Mivec is good. He just replaced my Marantz CD7 laser assembly a month ago and his price is reasonable. Alternatively u may try Adrian of Memory Lane.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: tapedeck on June 30, 2015, 20:43
Mivec is good. He just replaced my Marantz CD7 laser assembly a month ago and his price is reasonable. Alternatively u may try Adrian of Memory Lane.
Hi Bro. Annapurna,

I was looking at your thread and was thinking to myself that CD drive of Marantz hi-end cdps are known to last for ages.

Can you share with us your reasons why the laser assembly need to be replaced? Has it degenerated with a weaker sound, or because it needs to be replaced a number of years of use or because the Cdp could not read and play?


Thank you.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: annapurna on June 30, 2015, 23:22
Hi Bro. Annapurna,

I was looking at your thread and was thinking to myself that CD drive of Marantz hi-end cdps are known to last for ages.

Can you share with us your reasons why the laser assembly need to be replaced? Has it degenerated with a weaker sound, or because it needs to be replaced a number of years of use or because the Cdp could not read and play?


Thank you.

Marantz laser assemblies don't last long, 3 to 5 yrs for my CD7.   Initially the laser will track with some skipping and as the laser gets weaker, it cannot read the disc.   This is my 3rd replacement.  I know of friends who had the SA11S2, SA7 and even Esoteric having same issues after a number of years.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on June 30, 2015, 23:40
+1
They are about as reliable as other brands, not more, but since they use Philips drives, they are easily replaceable.
Some use esoteric brands or components that go out of production soon after.

You can still find parts for the popular CD 63 series even today.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: tapedeck on July 01, 2015, 13:11
Marantz laser assemblies don't last long, 3 to 5 yrs for my CD7.   Initially the laser will track with some skipping and as the laser gets weaker, it cannot read the disc.   This is my 3rd replacement.  I know of friends who had the SA11S2, SA7 and even Esoteric having same issues after a number of years.

Thanks Bro. Annapurna.

So Laser Assemblies are distinct from the Drive the latter of which I understand to last very long.

And is your Laser Assembly the original ie is dedicated part or other Assembly can be used ?

I have this CD95MkII which should be about over 25 years. When loading a Cd the tray keeps opening when Close is pressed It has to be tried many times and many other operations like pressing Play or Pause & re-pause but mostly without success.

I have also tried Stop immediately upon closing and thereafter press Play but it does not help.

It is only after several attempts of Opening and Closing or Power-off immedicately it closes then Power-on and Play does it read but always successful.

Belt does not appear to be an issue.

Another piece which has similar weakness was sent for rebelting by Trinity and according to Mr Wong the master technician, it may be a SENSOR problem which he said may pose a problem as it is not easily available.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: mystream on July 01, 2015, 21:28
My view is that we should not be measure reliability in terms of years but instead number of hours you can use the equipment for...Ultimately they are make up of mechanical parts which will deteriorate due not only to normal wear and tear but also how we use the equipment.

I'm using both NA11 and SA11S3 for the past 1.5 year averaging about 1 to 2 hours a day of listening...to me they are both well built and trouble free thus far.

More important to me is that they have a local service center which I can send my equipment in if there is a need. I heard that for some more expensive brands, you need to send it back to factory for repair...however having said that....if you like that particular brand and sound it produce, even if there is no local service center, you will still be willing to take this risk...therefore no right or wrong.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: annapurna on July 01, 2015, 22:02
Thanks Bro. Annapurna.

So Laser Assemblies are distinct from the Drive the latter of which I understand to last very long.

And is your Laser Assembly the original ie is dedicated part or other Assembly can be used ?

I have this CD95MkII which should be about over 25 years. When loading a Cd the tray keeps opening when Close is pressed It has to be tried many times and many other operations like pressing Play or Pause & re-pause but mostly without success.

I have also tried Stop immediately upon closing and thereafter press Play but it does not help.

It is only after several attempts of Opening and Closing or Power-off immedicately it closes then Power-on and Play does it read but always successful.

Belt does not appear to be an issue.

Another piece which has similar weakness was sent for rebelting by Trinity and according to Mr Wong the master technician, it may be a SENSOR problem which he said may pose a problem as it is not easily available.
From the symptoms that you described, your laser is dying.  According to Marantz repair center and Mivec, the CD7 laser unlike cheaper Marantz players have to be replaced together as a set with the assembly.

When I sent back my CD7 to Marantz official repair center, they are not able to repair it as the parts are no longer available. However, I understood from Mivec that he does stock up or is able to order my CD7 laser assembly online.  When Mivec replaced the assembly, he replaced most of the belts as well.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: tapedeck on July 01, 2015, 23:25
I am surprised that you have changed the Laser assembly 3 times in the period that it is with you. It means you either "trashed" it with intensive and continuous use or the Laser assembly is the weakest part of the link. It is alarming as CD7 is lauded to be the tip-of-the top end in Marantz line-up at least up to that period of production and as to whether it has been bettered I have no knowledge of it.

When you mention "the CD7 laser unlike cheaper Marantz players have to be replaced together as a set with the assembly" does the assembly you refer to include the disc drive mechanism Philips VAM1252, equipped with a die-cast body and commonly known as the CD Pro ? I would certainly appreciate your clear explanation on this issue of whether the Laser assembly means the Laser part that reads the disc OR does it include the Disc Drive mechanism as I am apprehensive that my cdp is in its death throes for which the disc drive mechanism CDM1 is supposedly lauded/rumoured to be almost indestructible and is not easy to come by.

What I understand from Mr Wong of Trinity is that the hesitation in reading the disc is cause by the Sensor and as to what it means and part of the Laser assembly it refers to I am quite ignorant.

Thank you .

Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: CASH on July 01, 2015, 23:32
Hehehe!!!
Some people have luck with electronics..
But some people like "ME" have not much luck with electronics..
"Lemon's"
So i guess thats y the cd player had to be repaired 3 times??
Hehehehe!!!
 ;D
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: CASH on July 01, 2015, 23:33
Murphy's law as they say...
 ;D
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: annapurna on July 02, 2015, 12:24
I am surprised that you have changed the Laser assembly 3 times in the period that it is with you. It means you either "trashed" it with intensive and continuous use or the Laser assembly is the weakest part of the link. It is alarming as CD7 is lauded to be the tip-of-the top end in Marantz line-up at least up to that period of production and as to whether it has been bettered I have no knowledge of it.

When you mention "the CD7 laser unlike cheaper Marantz players have to be replaced together as a set with the assembly" does the assembly you refer to include the disc drive mechanism Philips VAM1252, equipped with a die-cast body and commonly known as the CD Pro ? I would certainly appreciate your clear explanation on this issue of whether the Laser assembly means the Laser part that reads the disc OR does it include the Disc Drive mechanism as I am apprehensive that my cdp is in its death throes for which the disc drive mechanism CDM1 is supposedly lauded/rumoured to be almost indestructible and is not easy to come by.

What I understand from Mr Wong of Trinity is that the hesitation in reading the disc is cause by the Sensor and as to what it means and part of the Laser assembly it refers to I am quite ignorant.

Thank you .



I don't know what you mean when you said "trashed".  My Marantz CD7 is used as a normal user would use a CD player, standard on/off, play and switch off in a home environment.  When Mivec and Marantz replaced the parts, it is the Philips VAM part that they replaced together with the belts.  I suggest you contact the repairman for their opinion as I am no expert.   Mivec, Adrian or even Marantz should be able to advise you.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Jeremy1 on July 02, 2015, 14:47
Hi Bro. Annapurna,

I was looking at your thread and was thinking to myself that CD drive of Marantz hi-end cdps are known to last for ages.

Can you share with us your reasons why the laser assembly need to be replaced? Has it degenerated with a weaker sound, or because it needs to be replaced a number of years of use or because the Cdp could not read and play?


Thank you.

Marantz Laser Assembly cannot last long. I had already changed my SA15 for 2 times from Trinity liao. First time FOC as it's under warranty. Recently $400 bucks for changing of the transport and the LED display.

The strong point of Marantz High End CD player is their DAC portion, their transport portion is bad.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: tapedeck on July 02, 2015, 18:37
I don't know what you mean when you said "trashed".  My Marantz CD7 is used as a normal user would use a CD player, standard on/off, play and switch off in a home environment.  When Mivec and Marantz replaced the parts, it is the Philips VAM part that they replaced together with the belts.  I suggest you contact the repairman for their opinion as I am no expert.   Mivec, Adrian or even Marantz should be able to advise you.

So its normal use , and the laser pick-up is the culprit !
Thanks and  also for referring to the 3 sources of assistance. I had a Forsell Mk4 Air-Reference transport which could not read other than display showing errors and others but as it was a very sensitive equipment Mivec did his best but was unable to resurrect it.

I suppose you have grown accustomed o the sound that you continue to have it repaired. Hope it last you longer to let you enjoy the music.
Cheers and have a good week ahead.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: HT102 on July 05, 2015, 12:48
The drive of my old SA8260 has given up.. it can't read most of my CDs, and SACDs are not even recognized. A call to Memorylane came to the conclusion it's about time that I replace the disc player.

I have a low budget of $1k and would like to get one with network streaming feature. Would appreciate any recommendation. Thanks!

PS: Just read that Marantz is about to release the M-CR611 which supports Airplay, Sportify onnect, Bluetooth (AptX?), FLAC 192k/24-bit and DSD, plus the availability of pre-outs which should work well with my MF m3i amp..
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Funkyjazz on July 13, 2015, 14:48
Just to update, the Marantz service centre has been shifted to
Blk 1093, Lower Delta Road, #05-04/05,
Singapore 169204
This information was not updated in the Marantz Singapore website. I ended up went to the wrong location.

When I feedback to the Marantz Singapore office, they did not apologised. Instead, they said I should refer to their Asia pacific website. If the Singapore website is not in use, they should shut down to avoid misleading their customers. The customer service is very poor. With this kind of poor support, I am not too sure about Marantz business future in Singapore.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: DJQ on July 13, 2015, 16:09
they still dunno the power of media and forum. :)
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Funkyjazz on July 13, 2015, 16:56
they still dunno the power of media and forum. :)

From their atitude, I don't think they border. Anyway, they are losing their market share. With computer music getting popular, they are falling behind. The product QC standard is also dropping. My AVR failed just 1 year 3 months of usage.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: pcie on July 13, 2015, 16:58
What was the issue? Cannot start up?


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Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Funkyjazz on July 13, 2015, 17:23
What was the issue? Cannot start up?


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Yes, cannot start up.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: pcie on July 13, 2015, 17:28
Ahh jus after a year. Will they still warrant anything?


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Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Funkyjazz on July 13, 2015, 17:54
Ahh jus after a year. Will they still warrant anything?


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No, the service centre said exceed 3 months (too long), they can't help.

Btw, the service centre is outsourced to Trinity. Their service is ok. They told me they are facing many anrgy customers who went to the wrong address just like me.
Marantz Singapore office failed to update their website after they have shifted 7 months ago.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: DJQ on July 14, 2015, 00:07
gone are the days of having reliable AVRs. too many features embedded into the circuit boards. firmwares patches. mass manufacture brings down production yield. but I think against world standard figurs, our defects are a minority few.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: flowerpot99 on July 22, 2015, 13:06
Anyone know which Marantz reference PM model is able to switch to power amp mode directly from the remote control without needing to press and hold the P.direct button on the main for 3secs?

Find it weird that there is no button on the remote to do this function.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on July 22, 2015, 16:21
None ...
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: flowerpot99 on July 22, 2015, 23:20
Thanks for confirming my fear...  :'( just mange to score a set of KI Pearl and really like the sound. Haiz
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: cstanxpl on August 18, 2015, 08:43
Marantz SA/PM14S1 series got the SE treatment (to commemorate 30 years of SE products).

Reviewed in latest Hi-Fi News.

(http://www.fairaudio.de/img/artikel/highend15/jd/marantz/P1015969.jpg)

(http://www.fairaudio.de/img/artikel/highend15/jd/marantz/P1015966.jpg)

Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on August 18, 2015, 11:11
The 14 series is a little like the 15. Not bad, but the glamour goes to the 11 series, and they cost more than the 800x budget series. So a little refresh is a good thing.

They actually encompass a lot of value. Unlike the older models, they can be switched off via the remote, and have the Power Direct function, and network capability if you use the NA 11 or 8005.

Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: bluepill193 on August 19, 2015, 17:15
Thinking of getting the PM11 S3, either from Jay audio or alpha audio. Prices slightly different but based on your experience, which dealer is more reliable/helpful  etc?
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Hass on August 19, 2015, 17:19
wat kind of reliability & help do u need? if u dont "play" hifi, can just go for Alpha. But since u're in this forum, go for Jay!
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on August 19, 2015, 17:35
Pay a little more, reward the person that gives you good service.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Goldberg on August 19, 2015, 17:58
I would go to Jay Audio too. Reliable & knowledgeable. U won't go wrong.


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Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: bluepill193 on August 19, 2015, 21:17
Thanks for the input guys! Will go to Jay then
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Tiktokape on August 19, 2015, 21:30

Thanks for the input guys! Will go to Jay then
To drive your GX300?


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Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: bluepill193 on August 19, 2015, 21:49
Yes bro! After 4 months of running in, sounds much better. Less bright and less fatiguing. But still craving for warmer vocals :)
And PM11 S3 got ht bypass...
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Tiktokape on August 19, 2015, 22:27
If you are craving for warm sounding, do consider Job Integrated though I'm not sure whether it comes with pre in/HT Bypass. It is due for release soon but no further details on full specifications but USB DAC has been added.

My impression is sweet and warm on MA GX series based on Job 225.


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Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Hass on August 20, 2015, 08:56
have u tried with bryston?
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: bluepill193 on August 21, 2015, 14:55
Bro Tiktokape, the Job 225 is power amp right, so if I use the pre-out of my roksan m2 integrated, not sure which sound signature will predominate, the roksan or the Job?

Bro Hass, no never heard Bryston amps before. Who's is the dealer in Sg?
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Saycheese78 on August 27, 2015, 23:10
Anyone tried the ki pearl lite phono? How good is it?
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: yongkg on October 18, 2015, 08:53
The 14 series is a little like the 15. Not bad, but the glamour goes to the 11 series, and they cost more than the 800x budget series. So a little refresh is a good thing.

They actually encompass a lot of value. Unlike the older models, they can be switched off via the remote, and have the Power Direct function, and network capability if you use the NA 11 or 8005.

Hi,

The value of SA8005 & SA14-S1 is much difference and will its value difference justify the product difference, thank you.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: mystream on October 20, 2015, 00:10
Have you seen the 2 models physically? The built quality is completely different..of course sonically there are much difference...

I'm using the sa11 and Na 11 combo, they are another level altogether.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: yongkg on October 20, 2015, 00:24
Have you seen the 2 models physically? The built quality is completely different..of course sonically there are much difference...

I'm using the sa11 and Na 11 combo, they are another level altogether.
Thanks, at the moment SA11 is out of my budget. Wait till AV show on Nov 15 to get a better rate of either 1 of them ? Bro Cash's field report of his SA8005 will play a part on my selection of the model.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: CASH on October 20, 2015, 10:21
Thanks, at the moment SA11 is out of my budget. Wait till AV show on Nov 15 to get a better rate of either 1 of them ? Bro Cash's field report of his SA8005 will play a part on my selection of the model.

bro, if you free today, do come over to have a listen.
i will A/B test 3 players..
1) OPPO 103D
2) MARANTZ UD7007
3) MARANTZ SA8005

then u can listen to the difference.
can make your decision from this A/B test..
 :D
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: DJQ on October 20, 2015, 13:25
again SA8005 better. the other 2 are universal players that plays Blu-ray. not fair A/B. but yes amongst the blu ray players the 2 wins.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: yongkg on October 20, 2015, 19:22
bro, if you free today, do come over to have a listen.
i will A/B test 3 players..
1) OPPO 103D
2) MARANTZ UD7007
3) MARANTZ SA8005

then u can listen to the difference.
can make your decision from this A/B test..
 :D

Hi Bro Cash,

Thank you so much for your invite. But I could not be there due to work commitment.
Do you like the new sound of the SA8005 ?
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: CASH on October 21, 2015, 00:23
no worries bro....
yes, the SA8005 has definitely got my ears..
but i would love to see more bro's to have a listen to it in a friendly environment...
n that is my place...
be it good or bad,,,,
cheers!! 8)
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: MusicEar on October 22, 2015, 12:13
I've been using Marantz SA-14S1 SACD/CD/USB DAC player for 2 years now and I love every bit it sounded. Recently I hooked up a NUC MusicServer via USB input and start playing back via my NAS using Roon. Tidal lossless streaming is CD quality breathing new life into old player
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Epicure2 on October 31, 2015, 14:58
Dear Forum members,

Any good $2K Marantz Integrated to recommend for bookshelves Dynaudio Speakers.   Lost touch with this brand for a long time.  Used to own a Marantz 1070 those day and loving it.  Thanks and appreciate your time.

(http://i68.tinypic.com/2prigxw.jpg)
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Jeremy1 on October 31, 2015, 15:28
My SA15S1 having problem again. This is the 3rd time liao.

Thinking of getting a new player instead of spending $$$ on servicing again. The just recent one which is during March this year cost me 400 bucks.

Now looking at other brands preferable top loading.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on October 31, 2015, 15:54
Dear Forum members,

Any good $2K Marantz Integrated to recommend for bookshelves Dynaudio Speakers.   Lost touch with this brand for a long time.  Used to own a Marantz 1070 those day and loving it.  Thanks and appreciate your time.

The Dynaudio speakers like power - what speakers are they? Good to be specific..
2k will buy you a PM 8005 easily, or look for 2nd hand PM 15 and higher up. But auditions are needed to see if the sound suits you. There aren't that many models so you can bring your speakers to the shop and listen for yourself. Cheers
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Epicure2 on October 31, 2015, 17:25
The Dynaudio speakers like power - what speakers are they? Good to be specific..
2k will buy you a PM 8005 easily, or look for 2nd hand PM 15 and higher up. But auditions are needed to see if the sound suits you. There aren't that many models so you can bring your speakers to the shop and listen for yourself. Cheers

Thanks for the quick response.  It's an old model Dynaudio Audience 52SE.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on October 31, 2015, 18:39
The older ones are actually harder to drive, but a decent stereo amp from Marantz can.. whether it's to your satisfaction... ;)
The better ones will double their power into 4 ohms, which is where the 52 SE dwells...

FYI, I ran my old 52 with a SR 19 reference AVR, and it shut down... even in two channel only.

As I said, try before you buy... :)
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Epicure2 on November 01, 2015, 15:04
The older ones are actually harder to drive, but a decent stereo amp from Marantz can.. whether it's to your satisfaction... ;)
The better ones will double their power into 4 ohms, which is where the 52 SE dwells...

FYI, I ran my old 52 with a SR 19 reference AVR, and it shut down... even in two channel only.

As I said, try before you buy... :)

If that is so, I think it is better to switch over to Proac Studio 100 and I think the Marantz is a good match.  Your opinion is appreciated.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on November 01, 2015, 15:59
Sorry bro, I don't have any experience with that brand. Again, I will suggest an audition. Since you already owned the 52SE, just bring it to any shop with the Marantz amps.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Epicure2 on November 01, 2015, 17:08
Thank You petetherock.  I will look around at Adelphi and Jay Audio to check it out.  As for speakers, Proac and Totem is still my choice. 
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: limsze on January 19, 2016, 16:36
Plan to buy a Marantz CD/SACD player to replaced old CD6004. Recently played more of PC music, PC high resolution music files to USB DAC than CD Disk. I am looking for player that has equally good sounding for disc and computer music file playback, at least quite close. Any owner of SA8005, SA14s1 and SA11s3 could share their experience on comparing playing CD/SACD versus USB-DAC on the same player? If that is achievable, just have to buy a better player instead of a player and a USB DAC.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on March 27, 2016, 00:20
New mini-sized amp, 35w 8ohms, 70w into 4ohms...
http://www.us.marantz.com/us/Products/Pages/ProductDetails.aspx?CatId=HiFiComponents&SubCatId=0&ProductId=HDAMP1 (http://www.us.marantz.com/us/Products/Pages/ProductDetails.aspx?CatId=HiFiComponents&SubCatId=0&ProductId=HDAMP1)

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HD-AMP1 Digital Integrated Amplifier

(http://www.us.marantz.com/Assets/Images/Products/HD-AMP1/MARANTZ-HD_AMP1-BL-product.jpg)
Housed in an elegant compact chassis that occupies just over 1 square foot of desktop or shelf space, the HD-AMP1 digital integrated amplifier features high resolution D/A conversion and compatibility with a wide range of uncompressed high resolution audio formats, including WAV, ALAC, FLAC and AIFF, and is also capable of decoding DSD tracks with compatibility of all 3 DSD sampling frequencies - 2.6/5.2/11.2-MHz (DSD is the audio format of SACD).
The powerful digital amplifier section features cool-running wide bandwidth and wide dynamic range Class D audiophile amplifier technology, delivering 35 watts per channel into 8 ohms and 70 watts per channel into 4 ohms, providing compatibility with the widest range of speaker types and impedances.
Featuring 2 USB ports, 1 on the front and 1 on the back, the HD-AMP1 lets you connect your favorite iDevice or USB drive to the front panel USB port, and your PC or Mac to the rear panel USB-B port to stream your high resolution audio tracks, and it features advanced noise isolation to guard against digital noise from degrading the high resolution sound.
Equipped with Marantz Musical Digital Filtering, our proprietary DSP filter technology, the HD-AMP1 lets you choose from 2 digital filter algorithms so you can precisely tailor the sound to your liking. The reference-class ESS SABRE DAC features 32-bit/384-kHz decoding for the highest resolution and widest dynamic range with today's advanced audiophile hi-res tracks.
The analog sections feature our exclusive HDAM-SA2 modules, including the analog front end block, the D/A converter block and in the dedicated headphone amplifier block.
There are 2 optical and 1 coaxial digital inputs, along with 2 analog inputs, so you can connect the widest range of source components.


The elegant chassis features a solid brushed aluminum front panel along with luxurious woodtone side panels.[/q]
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on March 27, 2016, 00:24
Used to drive the new B&W 803D3:
http://andreweverard.com/2015/12/21/review-marantz-hd-amp1-is-a-classic-in-the-making/
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: kimurastanley on May 09, 2016, 18:13
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Doing AB testing with these equipments now
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Tiktokape on May 09, 2016, 18:17
I will pick the middle one!


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Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: joagib on May 09, 2016, 18:33
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160509/dc44c76fe47c1f8913bf45d6ebfc3b5c.jpg)

Doing AB testing with these equipments now

Interesting
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: kimurastanley on May 09, 2016, 18:46
Initial impression of pm11s3 is really good. Never knew that usher dancer mini2 can sound so 'open'


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Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on May 09, 2016, 20:37
Amazing bro... you bought all three.. a Loooonnnngggg way from your 2k for a HT budget ;)


Anyways, I think you will be pleasantly surprised with the drive that the PM 11 can provide..


Did you get it 2nd hand too?
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: domho8 on May 09, 2016, 20:38
I will pick the middle one!


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The middle one TUA KI ah :)
Title: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: kimurastanley on May 09, 2016, 20:44
Amazing bro... you bought all three.. a Loooonnnngggg way from your 2k for a HT budget ;)


Anyways, I think you will be pleasantly surprised with the drive that the PM 11 can provide..


Did you get it 2nd hand too?

Hi pete, missed your mayday open house session as I was overseas on that long weekend :(
I am selling my MF soon.

Before selling MF away, do some comparison. Like to try new things :)

I am very surprised with the capabilities of this amp. Drive the usher effortlessly.
Of course when use it as preamp for the bryston, it is another level of goodness.
No wonder u are keeping PM11S3 for long time.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on May 09, 2016, 20:57
The PM 11 is solid, as an amp, and a pre-amp.
If you wish to save some money, you can sell the MF, the Bryston and use the PM 11 with your AVR. Good enough, and the same remote will switch on both devices. Add a NA 11 and you can web control your PM 11.


The PM 11 is smooth, but revealing enough that when you change cables, you will find even more improvement... I haven't found it lacking in power actually, even though it has 'only' 100W on paper..
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on May 09, 2016, 21:00
BTW, pm me if you find another PM 11. I might get one more!
It will last many years... built like a tank - at 28kg, it may weight more than the Bryston..

We didn't get any reply from you on that weekend :(
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Tiktokape on May 09, 2016, 21:03
The middle one TUA KI ah :)
Middle one very good. Clean sound.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: domho8 on May 09, 2016, 21:20
Middle one very good. Clean sound.

Silver swee ah :)
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: kimurastanley on May 09, 2016, 22:47
Totally agree that this is a solid amp! I think I will keep the Bryston. Really like the sound from this power amp. Will sell the MF.

I only saw ur msg when I got back which already past the mayday weekend. :(

U may buy another one to bridge?

Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: kimurastanley on May 09, 2016, 22:48
Middle one very good. Clean sound.

Ya. Bryston is a keeper. This is the SST version. Eager to know how the cube version sounds like.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Tiktokape on May 09, 2016, 23:06
Ya. Bryston is a keeper. This is the SST version. Eager to know how the cube version sounds like.
You just need to match it with a good pre amp.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on May 09, 2016, 23:19
The PM 11 can be daisy-chained to form a HT system. But that's too expensive for me.. but if there's an affordable one for sale, I might consider building another system around it..
Good amps last a long time..
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: kimurastanley on May 10, 2016, 12:21
One caveat of this amp, P. Direct in and pre out don't work at the same time
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Tiktokape on May 10, 2016, 12:53
One caveat of this amp, P. Direct in and pre out don't work at the same time
What do you mean?
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: kimurastanley on May 10, 2016, 13:21
What do you mean?

AVR (L/R preout)-->(P.direct in/HT bypass) PM11S3 (preout)--> 4BSST (external power amp) --> speakers
HT bypass and preout function cant be activated silmutaneously unlike MF. Also mentioned in the manual

If HT bypass activated, only can utilise the power amp of PM11S3 rather than an external power amp

Of course this amp is not meant to be a pre amp, I just try and see.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on May 17, 2016, 09:53
So bro, are you upgrading to Accuphase?
If so, sell me your PM 11 :)
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Tiktokape on May 17, 2016, 10:07
So bro, are you upgrading to Accuphase?
If so, sell me your PM 11 :)
He is keeping it to drive his LR and using 4BSST for center iirc.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: kimurastanley on May 17, 2016, 11:25
So bro, are you upgrading to Accuphase?
If so, sell me your PM 11 :)

No bro. Unless my colleague is letting go. Haha
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: pokingpine on May 17, 2016, 15:12
No bro. Unless my colleague is letting go. Haha

Recently someone advertised his E-46- for sale at SGD6000 I think.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Tiktokape on May 17, 2016, 16:18
Recently someone advertised his E-46- for sale at SGD6000 I think.
He might have missed the deal. Let's catch up again on your new digital music route  ;D
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: pokingpine on May 17, 2016, 16:43
He might have missed the deal. Let's catch up again on your new digital music route  ;D
Can. Just need to find the right timing. Will inform you guys in advance.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on May 25, 2016, 20:00
http://www.soundandvision.com/content/marantz-gets-back-stereo#UESlCJB645VjPThq.97


New PM 6006 and CD 6006..
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: limsze on May 25, 2016, 20:12
New stereo reference model...PM10 and SA10. Should be higher model than PM11s3.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9DGFJ3Z5MQ
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: kimurastanley on May 25, 2016, 21:00
any spec on the PM10?
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on May 25, 2016, 22:05

(http://www.hifi-journal.de/images/pics/2016/news/High-End-2016/Marantz/Marantz-PM10-2.jpg)

Looks very interesting, but no more front buttons, so the remote is going to be very important..
http://www.hifi-journal.de/news/34-verstaerker/111-high-end-2016-marantz-pm10-sa10-video (http://www.hifi-journal.de/news/34-verstaerker/111-high-end-2016-marantz-pm10-sa10-video)

But if there's no buttons, it means that it is likely that you can activate the power in direct from the remote :)


Two XLR inputs, but no XLR outputs..

(http://raumklangbonn.de/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Marantz-PM-10-In1.jpg)
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on May 26, 2016, 19:07
It's interesting, but there is talk that the PM 10 is Class D. It will be a first for Marantz for a Reference Series amp..
Personally I would like to see a 200W X2 Class A/B stereo amp..
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: cstanxpl on June 11, 2016, 19:15
Marantz launches 6006 series.

http://www.whathifi.com/news/marantz-launches-6006-series-hi-fi-separates?utm_medium=EMAIL&utm_campaign=Enews%20bulletins&utm_content=WHIF%20ENews%20Bulletin_onepromoted%20(10.06.2016)::article_46_read_more&utm_source=20160610

Prices went up.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: audioworld2011 on June 12, 2016, 13:20
Marantz launches 6006 series.

http://www.whathifi.com/news/marantz-launches-6006-series-hi-fi-separates?utm_medium=EMAIL&utm_campaign=Enews%20bulletins&utm_content=WHIF%20ENews%20Bulletin_onepromoted%20(10.06.2016)::article_46_read_more&utm_source=20160610

Prices went up.
Just wondering what is the price and when will be available in local?
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: DJQ on June 12, 2016, 15:00
http://www.marantz.co.uk/uk/products/pages/productdetails.aspx?catid=hifi&subcatid=sacdcdplayer&productid=cd6006

made in Vietnam. cannot be more expensive. should relatively be cheaper if CD player is ever to make a come back.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: planet on June 13, 2016, 09:06
My guess is $600-700 for the new CD6006.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: DJQ on June 13, 2016, 16:33
i will buy if retails at S$590. with a further 10% off. Can diy mod a few items to further improve it. heck i will ask local guys if they allow me MO.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: headfiman on July 04, 2016, 13:21
FYI for those who may be interested - saw a CD6006 on display at City Electronics when I was there last week. Forgot to ask the price as I was there for something else.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: DJQ on July 05, 2016, 11:11
yeah i saw the box too at av1.  :-X weekend go ask ask price.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: cstanxpl on August 18, 2016, 08:28
Marantz announces new MusicLink CD player

http://www.whathifi.com/news/marantz-announces-new-musiclink-cd-player?utm_medium=EMAIL&utm_campaign=Enews%20bulletins&utm_content=WHIF%20Enews%20no%20promoted%20(17.08.2016)::article_5_read_more&utm_source=20160817
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: FLASH21 on August 18, 2016, 09:49
Hi folks, is the Marantz HD-AMP1 available here?
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on August 18, 2016, 14:00
Trying asking at Jay Audio. You can google for their address, cheers.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: FLASH21 on August 18, 2016, 15:56
Thanks petetherock.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Furface on August 23, 2016, 12:53
Prices quoted by City Electronics
CD-6006 $500.00
PM-6006 $580.00
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on August 23, 2016, 13:16
Wonder where they are made now..
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: cstanxpl on August 23, 2016, 20:12
The CD/PM6006 are made in Vietnam.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on August 26, 2016, 22:07
Prices quoted by City Electronics
CD-6006 $500.00
PM-6006 $580.00
If you want a more VFM deal, the older PM 6005 is going for $420. Superb value.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: cstanxpl on September 17, 2016, 21:43
WHF? review for PM6006

http://www.whathifi.com/marantz/pm6006/review
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: rolfie_boy on September 20, 2016, 01:20
Sorry to interrupt. Does anyone here know where I could find Philips VAM 1201 Optic? My friend's CD63 is kaput and would like replacement. Thank you.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on September 20, 2016, 02:31
Try and pm bro Mivec ?
He repairs CD players.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Wolf on September 24, 2016, 19:37
WHF? review for PM6006

http://www.whathifi.com/marantz/pm6006/review

Anyone know how much this is being sold in City Electronics?
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: cstanxpl on September 25, 2016, 00:15
Anyone know how much this is being sold in City Electronics?

Price for CE was mentioned in the previous page.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on December 08, 2016, 19:51
We are getting closer to the release of the PM 10:
http://www.whathifi.com/news/marantz-reveals-more-details-10-series-reference-range


200W into 8ohms and 400 into 4ohms..  :o
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Doggie Howser on December 08, 2016, 23:27
We are getting closer to the release of the PM 10:
http://www.whathifi.com/news/marantz-reveals-more-details-10-series-reference-range


200W into 8ohms and 400 into 4ohms..  :o

From a Class D design tho
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: MusicEar on December 12, 2016, 23:03
Marantz just announced their flagship SA-10 SACD player with USB-DAC.

http://www.marantz.co.uk/uk/products/pages/productdetails.aspx?catid=hifi&subcatid=sacdcdplayer&productid=sa10

Looks like Marantz does not use any off selves DAC chips but develop their own custom FPGA DAC. Looks interesting... ability to playback hi-res downloads onto burnt DVDs blank discs are really cool and does PCM to DSD on the fly. There's a USB-A for external hard disk too!

A upgrade for my Marantz SA-14S1?
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: DJQ on December 13, 2016, 09:17
Ultimately it bears down to the price locally.  :)
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: thevoice on December 13, 2016, 22:26
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvEMKdasY34&feature=youtu.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvEMKdasY34&feature=youtu.be

Just found this. Watch this video maranta sa10 vs ear yoshino acute classic. How did he get hold of the marantz.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Chericelise on December 18, 2016, 20:50
Hi all...iam new to Audiophile and is currently considering a Marantz CD player 6006 or 8005.
where can I find a reliable dealer with reasonable price?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on December 24, 2016, 17:35
Hi all...iam new to Audiophile and is currently considering a Marantz CD player 6006 or 8005.
where can I find a reliable dealer with reasonable price?

Thanks.
Welcome to XP
Have a search around, sometimes the answer was posted before:
We usually go to places like Alpha Audio, KEC, Jay Audio, City Electronics and Anson Audio.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: zeebjii on December 31, 2016, 01:11
Hi all...iam new to Audiophile and is currently considering a Marantz CD player 6006 or 8005.
where can I find a reliable dealer with reasonable price?

Thanks.

I just bought mine at Alpha audio for 1280 with instalment plan. Cash price was 1250. A friend had suggested I could get it at a cheaper price at Jay Audio if i could pay cash.

Was disappointed that it didn't sound much better than my decades-old Rotel RCD965BX. But after i replaced my old and basic Straightwire Chorus with a pair of used McIntosh interconnect cables, i was stunned by the amazing improvement. Moral of the story is, don't let it down with $80 interconnects.




Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: altis72 on January 03, 2017, 13:29
$1280? which model did you get?
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on January 07, 2017, 11:44
http://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/marantz-introduces-premium-10-series/




Late last year, DMGlobal, the corporation that now owns Marantz (also Denon and Boston Acoustics), announced the new Marantz Premium 10 Series and arranged for members of the international press and other interested parties to visit its European headquarters in the Dutch city of Eindhoven to hear about—and just plain hear—the latest flagship electronics from the famed brand. The Reference Series, which debuted in 2003 to commemorate the fiftieth anniversary of Saul Marantz’s first product, comprised a preamplifier (the SC-7), a monoblock power amplifier (the MA-9) and, appearing in 2006, an SACD player (the SA-7). The Premium 10 line replaces these with fewer boxes—the PM-10 is a dual-mono integrated amplifier—and introduces plenty of technological advances over the earlier models. For example, the new SA-10 is a disc/file player that “doesn’t actually have a DAC.”


Headlining the product presentations in Eindhoven was Marantz’s “brand ambassador,” Ken Ishiwata, an engineering fixture at the company for nearly four decades. Resplendent in a bright green Nehru jacket and a flowing silk scarf, Ishiwata crisply and clearly described the PM-10’s layout. For the first time in Marantz history, the new flagship uses switching power amplification to deliver 200 watts RMS into an 8-ohm load, 400 into 4 ohms. Marantz eschews the designation of “Class D” for this amplifier because to many audiophiles that term always connotes a digital process, which simply isn’t true. The PA-10 is driven by a differential analog signal, a highly linear switching modulator operating at 450kHz. There are separate power supplies for the preamplifier section and for each of the power amp channels. With the goal of achieving the greatest possible noise rejection throughout the signal path, the topology is fully balanced from input to output. Line-level single-ended inputs are provided as well, though it’s hard to imagine many purchasers will be using them.






Marantz PM-10


In lieu of the usual integrated circuits (“chip amps”), the PA-10’s preamp section employs Marantz’s much-admired HDAMs (Hyper-Dynamic Amplifier Modules)—described in the company’s literature as “tiny amplifiers…built from discrete components.” Several important audio constituencies have not been forgotten: A carefully isolated discrete phonostage for moving-magnet and moving-coil cartridges is provided, and the front panel sports a headphone jack. Part selection, construction quality, and aesthetic considerations are first-rate, in line with the $7999 retail cost of the unit. A double-layered copper-plated chassis assures excellent rejection of both mechanical and electrical interference, and the case, available in the familiar Marantz silver-gold as well as three other options, is constructed from robust, non-magnetic aluminum panels.


Rainer Finck, a Senior Engineer at Marantz who has been working on its digital playback for two decades, outlined the key innovations utilized by the SA-10 SACD player. “Marantz Musical Mastering,” he explained, upsamples any and all digital files to DSD256—that is, four times the usual SACD standard. One of two high-precision clocks accomplishes this: multiples of 44.1kHz are oversampled to 11.3MHz, multiples of 48kHz to 12.3MHz. No sample-rate conversion is required; Marantz maintains that this extremely high-frequency, one-bit data stream is essentially an analog signal, ready to be passed along to an amplifier. In fact, the SA-10 promotional literature boldly maintains that “DSD is analog.” I’m not sure I’d go that far, but it can certainly be argued that less processing of the signal may be required than with PCM. This approach isn’t exactly new, as bitstream conversion methodology was very much in vogue back in digital’s earliest days. But in recent years, Marantz has devoted considerable effort to developing technology that will truly deliver the superior linearity that (the company feels) is inherent to single-bit digital.






Marantz SA-10


The SA-10 gives users a choice of two filter settings. There are optical and coaxial digital inputs for data streams up to192kHz/24-bit plus an asynchronous USB-B port for the connection of a computer, potentially handling PCM and DXD files (up to 384 kHz/32-bit) as well as 1x, 2x, and 4x DSD. Pretty much any PCM format is welcomed. The build-quality of the player, priced at $6999, is every bit as sumptuous as that of the integrated amplifier.


The technical presentations were followed by ample opportunity to hear the SA-10 and PM-10 in action, in Ken Ishiwata’s custom-built listening room located on the lower level of the Eindhoven facility. There, the digital player and integrated amp were driving a quite remarkable $4000/pair loudspeaker, the Q Acoustics Concept 500, a modest-sized British floorstander that had a number of experienced listeners furtively looking around for a non-existent subwoofer. It is, of course, very difficult to judge the character and quality of electronics in the context of an unfamiliar system and room. But I have to say: This was quite possibly the best sound I’ve ever heard from a system costing $20k or less—and, certainly, the Marantz player and integrated were not getting in the way of this level of performance. Ken Ishiwata demonstrated the gear with recordings of his choosing, including some he’d made himself, but after he’d excused himself to participate in interviews, attendees brought out their own discs and the audio experience remained consistently outstanding—imaging as holographic as I’ve ever heard, detailed hall information, subtle dynamic gradations, and accurate instrumental and vocal color. No one seemed especially eager to leave that room.


DMGlobal must have a lot of confidence in these components, if only in that it’s chosen to market them as the Premium 10 series. “10” is not a good number in the Marantz mythos. The Model 10B tuner that Sid Smith and Dick Sequerra worked on tirelessly was released in 1963 at a price of $650. It was a legendary product that today can sell for over $3000 on the vintage market. At the time, however, it ruined Saul Marantz financially and forced the sale of his company to Superscope in 1964. Superscope sold to Philips in 1980 and the latter eventually sold its remaining share in Marantz to DMGlobal in 2008. Which, of course, was why we were all gathered on a gray December day in Eindhoven. This time, one suspects, “10” will work out much better for the Marantz brand.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: eze73 on January 08, 2017, 19:11
Hello
I still own a CD 63 KI and a CD 17 KI ..
I was searching for a SA11S3 when I saw your post
2 things
1. It is weird that CD makers are still producing high end gears despite the fact that SACDs and CDs are no longer so popular
2. Is the SA 10 better than the SA11S3 ?

Cheers
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: annapurna on January 09, 2017, 12:23

2. Is the SA 10 better than the SA11S3 ?

Cheers

Marantz naming convention is usually the smaller the numerical number, the higher the series.  So Marantz 10 should be higher than 11 and theoretically better.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: kuryakin on January 09, 2017, 16:48
My redbook CDP recently kaput. Considering a CD/SACD player. But the RRP for SA10 should be in region of S$10K?!
Or whether I should just get a "decent" CD player (likes of Marantz, Cambridge, NAD, Arcam, Rotel) as I still have a library of CDs.
Thinking aloud - I haven't ripped any CDs before.....yet....perhaps I should just get a DAC/NAS instead?
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: qflyer on January 09, 2017, 17:20
If sa10 is $10k, too expensive for me. :-[
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: CASH on January 09, 2017, 18:39
My redbook CDP recently kaput. Considering a CD/SACD player. But the RRP for SA10 should be in region of S$10K?!
Or whether I should just get a "decent" CD player (likes of Marantz, Cambridge, NAD, Arcam, Rotel) as I still have a library of CDs.
Thinking aloud - I haven't ripped any CDs before.....yet....perhaps I should just get a DAC/NAS instead?

get the Nad M5 SACD/CD Player..
one bro is selling it now..
it retailed for more than 3K RRP when it was launched.
i think he is selling it in the region of 1k?
XLR OUT's..
much better than any Marantz i have heard...
only thing u gotta worry about is the super screwed support from LenBrook,(the dealer for Nad products in singapore)
if anything goes wrong, they won't even touch the machine!
trust me, cause i have gone through their useless support line..
i say i bought a new len's from eBay, n ask them to install, also cannot..
willing to pay for that service also no use..
so Lenbrook, if u reading this, get your act together, because its still a premium Nad product i bought n lost hope because of u BUGGERS!!
USELESS BUNCH OF PEOPLE WITH NO SUPPORT!!!!!
USUAL SINGAPORE STYLE OF REPLY!!
NO NEED TO GUESS MUCH!
PLS READ PROPERLY INTO MY THREAD, ITS A 2ND HAND UNIT WHICH I WAS VERY MUCH WILLING TO PAY FOR WHATEVER SERVICE U COULD HAVE DONE!
UNDERSTAND??????
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Doggie Howser on January 09, 2017, 19:15
get the Nad M5 SACD/CD Player..
one bro is selling it now..
it retailed for more than 3K RRP when it was launched.
i think he is selling it in the region of 1k?
XLR OUT's..
much better than any Marantz i have heard...
only thing u gotta worry about is the super screwed support from LenBrook,(the dealer for Nad products in singapore)
if anything goes wrong, they won't even touch the machine!
trust me, cause i have gone through their useless support line..
i say i bought a new len's from eBay, n ask them to install, also cannot..
willing to pay for that service also no use..
so Lenbrook, if u reading this, get your act together, because its still a premium Nad product i bought n lost hope because of u BUGGERS!!
USELESS BUNCH OF PEOPLE WITH NO SUPPORT!!!!!
USUAL SINGAPORE STYLE OF REPLY!!
NO NEED TO GUESS MUCH!
PLS READ PROPERLY INTO MY THREAD, ITS A 2ND HAND UNIT WHICH I WAS VERY MUCH WILLING TO PAY FOR WHATEVER SERVICE U COULD HAVE DONE!
UNDERSTAND??????


The Marantz REFERENCE series is a totally different kettle of fish from the standard range.

Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: andylovesaudio on January 09, 2017, 19:29
Gulp. Poor aftersales or non existant basic dealer support would totally disqualify a brand for me. Why bother... so many other BrandS to choose from. Atas and sneaky dealers too...immediate store boycott for future purchases UND instant brand disqualification. Achtung!
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on January 09, 2017, 19:51
Gulp. Poor aftersales or non existant basic dealer support would totally disqualify the brand for me. Why bother... so many other BrandS to choose from. Atas and sneaky dealers too...instant brand disqualification.
Not everyone is willing to pay for this.
Service and support costs money..
Anyhow, the regular range vs the Reference Series from Marantz are quite different in feel, cost and quality..
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: andylovesaudio on January 09, 2017, 19:57
If out of warranty ... or violation of warranty conditions ... of coz must pay. I Guess some/any  assistance would be most helpful and appreciated.  :)
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Carnage on January 10, 2017, 01:25
Pricing in US is already out!

SA10 is US$6,999. I guess it costing more than 10k locally is a possibility, if they decide to bring it in.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: francishuang on January 10, 2017, 14:22
Just checked with jay audio
Sa10 going for 10k sgd after discount
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: eze73 on January 10, 2017, 16:53
Hello
Cds today is about best data retrieval  and a dac
And i think that in terms of data retreval , metronome technology and cyrus are very good
DACs are the new equalizers of hifi today , and loads of them are flooding the market
The best one I've heard is in the DIY market called : DDDAC NOS 1794
Then if you add the price of a metronome cd player or cyrus cdXT signature , with a DDDDAC : it will be less expensive surely
Will it better the marantz .. I don't know , but the thought of having a listen is compulsory
I'll let you know if I have a chance ...
Despite all that , I love the marantz sound .. but for 6000 dollars ..loads of high end cd players sit for the competition : Esotericsd , Metronome , DCS ...
CHeers
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Goldberg on January 10, 2017, 19:55
https://www.marantz.co.uk/uk/products/pages/productdetails.aspx?catid=hifi&subcatid=sacdcdplayer&productid=sa10
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: DJQ on January 15, 2017, 23:41
Dare not touch premium marantz products anymore. Very steep pricing.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: mystream on January 25, 2017, 12:43
Jay audio just delivered SA-10. It's miles ahead of Sa-11s3 which was installed in my setup previously.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170125/e58cd7b6d8c1bfe1994c904a7c1db452.jpg)

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Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: CASH on January 25, 2017, 12:53
(http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w33/cashkey/IMG20161219131655.jpg) (http://s172.photobucket.com/user/cashkey/media/IMG20161219131655.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: CASH on January 25, 2017, 12:56
the picture above was taken by me in Osaka japan in Dec last year..
list price for the SA10 was yen$570000....
that would be SGD$7300 approximately..
how much is it priced here in singapore?
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: CASH on January 25, 2017, 13:02
about time for another visit to your place, bro Mystream!!
was so impressed with your setup n how neat your place is too!!
 :)
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: mystream on January 25, 2017, 13:09
the picture above was taken by me in Osaka japan in Dec last year..
list price for the SA10 was yen$570000....
that would be SGD$7300 approximately..
how much is it priced here in singapore?
Cannot compare like that. The Japan version is 110v compare to our 230v, if you buy there still need to buy a step up transformer and sound also different. Moreover make in Japan and ship locally of course cheaper la. I got a pretty attractive price from Jay Audio, go check with him.


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Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: mystream on January 25, 2017, 13:14
about time for another visit to your place, bro Mystream!!
was so impressed with your setup n how neat your place is too!!
 :)
My door is always open for you la. But my front end is mostly marantz wor... last I remember you said marantz cannot compare against other brand....so I'm not sure it's up to your standard or not...so a bit scared...


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Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: CASH on January 25, 2017, 13:28
no lah...
i have grown to accept each brand has its merits..
getting wiser as age catches up.
now a retiree.. so, its time to mature with knowledge..
i was hot headed last time.
always bashing brands..
now, i jus chill n enjoy the flow of music from any system.
no more the old days of "this brand is better than that" attitude..
 ;)
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: mystream on January 25, 2017, 13:41
no lah...
i have grown to accept each brand has its merits..
getting wiser as age catches up.
now a retiree.. so, its time to mature with knowledge..
i was hot headed last time.
always bashing brands..
now, i jus chill n enjoy the flow of music from any system.
no more the old days of "this brand is better than that" attitude..
 ;)
Ah...OK on la. I'm at home today and tomorrow. PM me if you want to come over.

BTW, no bicycle in the house hor...so bring your lock.

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Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: CASH on January 25, 2017, 13:53
hehehe!!
now i got disc lock for my ebike..
so should have no problem parking it outside.
 ;D
now, gonna take a old man power afternoon nap..
should be up in 1.5 hours time.
then i ride over to your place.
after that, i ride over to kopitiam to have my daily dose of tigers!
 ;D
can text me your address bro?
Cash - 96660233.
thks.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: mystream on January 25, 2017, 13:55
hehehe!!
now i got disc lock for my ebike..
so should have no problem parking it outside.
 ;D
now, gonna take a old man power afternoon nap..
should be up in 1.5 hours time.
then i ride over to your place.
after that, i ride over to kopitiam to have my daily dose of tigers!
 ;D
can text me your address bro?
Cash - 96660233.
thks.
Text msg send.

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Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: CASH on January 25, 2017, 13:57
received.
thks!
cheers!!
 ;)
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: CASH on January 25, 2017, 14:02
alamak!!!
Dark clouds forming up already!!
if it starts raining when i wake up, i will have to cancel the meet up bro..
2 wheels not safe on roads..
n its a Ebike..
might trip n short the battery...
 :'(
will text u when i about to leave home, or trip cancelled..
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: CASH on January 25, 2017, 17:38
as discussed, we shall meet up tomorrow.
Bro mystream had to run some errands, so we cant meet up today.
see u tomorrow bro.
cheers!!
 ;)
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: malsound on March 03, 2017, 11:36
https://parttimeaudiophile.com/2017/03/01/denon-marantz-and-boston-acoustics-purchased-by-sound-united-owners-of-polk-audio/
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: malsound on March 06, 2017, 17:48
http://www.youtube.com/v/Bm-waTEb0cM&fs=1
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: annapurna on March 06, 2017, 22:30
Wow according to the video, HK selling SA10 for HK$42800 retail price.  Very good price.  Can go for holiday and handcarry back :)
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: qflyer on March 07, 2017, 13:08
What is sa10 local price?
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: DJQ on March 07, 2017, 16:33
definitely not SGD$7770  :P :P :P
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: malsound on March 08, 2017, 16:29
http://www.youtube.com/v/O94CQIybpe8&fs=1
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: malsound on March 09, 2017, 18:29
http://www.youtube.com/v/CvEMKdasY34&fs=1
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: li0012in on April 09, 2017, 14:10
I have a marantz CD-17 MK III that was in storage. Took in out recently and found it cannot read cds.

I have opened up to check, disc is spinning and laser head can be moved.

It is able to detect no disc. However, when there is a disc inside, it shows error on LCD.

Anyone know what could be the problem?

Any where I can get it repaired?
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: eze73 on April 09, 2017, 18:55
Hello
Any listening experience for the SA10
Cheers
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: annapurna on April 09, 2017, 22:13
I have a marantz CD-17 MK III that was in storage. Took in out recently and found it cannot read cds.

I have opened up to check, disc is spinning and laser head can be moved.

It is able to detect no disc. However, when there is a disc inside, it shows error on LCD.

Anyone know what could be the problem?

Any where I can get it repaired?

Try Adrian from Memory Lane or Mivec.  Mivec's contact can be found from his postings here or in Echoloft.  My Marantz player is repaired by Mivec.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: malsound on April 10, 2017, 12:21

I have a marantz CD-17 MK III that was in storage. Took in out recently and found it cannot read cds.

I have opened up to check, disc is spinning and laser head can be moved.

It is able to detect no disc. However, when there is a disc inside, it shows error on LCD.

Anyone know what could be the problem?

Any where I can get it repaired?
Most likely gain need to be adjusted.

Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on April 10, 2017, 13:23
I second Mivec - there's a repairs discussion thread in planet general with contacts and options. cheers
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: mystream on April 27, 2017, 18:55
Marantz PM-10 now available in Jay Audio for audition. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170427/c63071ef5d0c374646e80c82480f718c.jpg)

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Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: annapurna on April 28, 2017, 13:40
2 weeks ago I was in Tokyo and visited Yodobashi at Akhibara.  Saw the Marantz SA10 at a very good price compared to Singapore.  For tourist, there is a 8% tax discount and another 5% discount with Visa from the retail price. After all the discount, it is S$6700 only.  So much cheaper.  Perhaps HK will be similar price after discount.  Feel like flying there to bring back one :)

(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x309/Mezzoutopia/Marantz%20NA11%20Airtight%20ATC%202/20170412_1815053026_zpskmgby4zu.jpg) (http://s185.photobucket.com/user/Mezzoutopia/media/Marantz%20NA11%20Airtight%20ATC%202/20170412_1815053026_zpskmgby4zu.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: chrisnew on April 28, 2017, 23:24
2 weeks ago I was in Tokyo and visited Yodobashi at Akhibara.  Saw the Marantz SA10 at a very good price compared to Singapore.  For tourist, there is a 8% tax discount and another 5% discount with Visa from the retail price. After all the discount, it is S$6700 only.  So much cheaper.  Perhaps HK will be similar price after discount.  Feel like flying there to bring back one :)

(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x309/Mezzoutopia/Marantz%20NA11%20Airtight%20ATC%202/20170412_1815053026_zpskmgby4zu.jpg) (http://s185.photobucket.com/user/Mezzoutopia/media/Marantz%20NA11%20Airtight%20ATC%202/20170412_1815053026_zpskmgby4zu.jpg.html)
Won't it be 110v?

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Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: annapurna on April 28, 2017, 23:39
Won't it be 110v?

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Yes it is 110V. That is why I said if going HK for holiday, bringing one back makes good sense.  Japan pricing is just for reference only.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: francishuang on April 28, 2017, 23:44
How much in hk?

Yes it is 110V. That is why I said if going HK for holiday, bringing one back makes good sense.  Japan pricing is just for reference only.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: mystream on April 29, 2017, 00:38
Just take note that when you carry back this huge box thru Singapore custom, they may ask you to pay GST..

Also if you are very unlucky and bought a lemon or equipment got damage during transportation back home...no local warranty. So if you are ok to overlook these risks, by all means..go for it.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: annapurna on April 29, 2017, 11:35
Just take note that when you carry back this huge box thru Singapore custom, they may ask you to pay GST..

Also if you are very unlucky and bought a lemon or equipment got damage during transportation back home...no local warranty. So if you are ok to overlook these risks, by all means..go for it.

Absolutely agree with you.  As in any overseas purchase, there is always a risk involved. Potential buyers just have to decide whether the saving is worth the effort.  In this case, they have to decide whether a saving of more than 1k plus is worth it :)
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: annapurna on April 29, 2017, 11:37
How much in hk?


RRP in the video someone posted earlier is HK$42800 converted to approx S$7700.  Street price should be a significantly cheaper with discount from dealers.  You can google the street price in google :)
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: francishuang on April 29, 2017, 12:02
When r u going? Feel like getting a set to play play if the price is gd. I settle the courier

RRP in the video someone posted earlier is HK$42800 converted to approx S$7700.  Street price should be a significantly cheaper with discount from dealers.  You can google the street price in google :)
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: kaydee6 on April 29, 2017, 12:05
Yes it is 110V. That is why I said if going HK for holiday, bringing one back makes good sense.  Japan pricing is just for reference only.

HK is 220V not 230V
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: annapurna on April 29, 2017, 12:56
When r u going? Feel like getting a set to play play if the price is gd. I settle the courier


Already PM you Francis :)
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: fgchong on April 29, 2017, 13:15
HK is 220V not 230V

Doesn't really matter. 
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: annapurna on April 29, 2017, 13:22
HK is 220V not 230V
From the pixs shown in this HK review, it is 230V.

http://personalaudio.hk/2017/02/23/marantz-sa-10-news/
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: chrisnew on April 29, 2017, 13:30
Just take note that when you carry back this huge box thru Singapore custom, they may ask you to pay GST..

Also if you are very unlucky and bought a lemon or equipment got damage during transportation back home...no local warranty. So if you are ok to overlook these risks, by all means..go for it.
Curious, how best to carry this back? Check in luggage or hand carry? Or take out from box and pack inside luggage?

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Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: mystream on April 29, 2017, 13:59
RRP in the video someone posted earlier is HK$42800 converted to approx S$7700.  Street price should be a significantly cheaper with discount from dealers.  You can google the street price in google :)
If you are genuinely interested, my view is that you can negotiate a better price with Jay Audio.

Save you the trouble of lugging that 10kg+ player around.

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Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on April 29, 2017, 14:01
+1
Price difference should be at least 15-20%, otherwise let's support local, and keep our shops open, and enjoy the warranty.
IIRC, the HKG Marantz price is ok, but not stunning. It's not like Accuphase or other brands where the difference can be big.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: annapurna on April 29, 2017, 14:43
+1
Price difference should be at least 15-20%, otherwise let's support local, and keep our shops open, and enjoy the warranty.
IIRC, the HKG Marantz price is ok, but not stunning. It's not like Accuphase or other brands where the difference can be big.

Actually if you compare RRP, it is S$10K here compared to HK S$7.7K.  So difference is 23%.  However, not sure the actual selling price here.  In HK, from google search, posted street price is around $7k or less.  So like what Pete said, if diff is not much, buy here.  YMMV.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: annapurna on April 29, 2017, 14:58
ls
If you are genuinely interested, my view is that you can negotiate a better price with Jay Audio.

Save you the trouble of lugging that 10kg+ player around.

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I know Jay also. I understand his predicament and he will never be able to sell or match HK price.  His hands are tied as the high RRP is set by D&M and there is nothing he can do.  By posting this info, I hope a small silent group of interested buyer can sound their unhappiness on the local price by D&M Singapore. 
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: bluepill193 on April 30, 2017, 12:46
Got hold of a SA11 S2, thinking of changing fuses to try. Does anyone know what specs to look for? It's a local unit
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Tiktokape on April 30, 2017, 12:51
Got hold of a SA11 S2, thinking of changing fuses to try. Does anyone know what specs to look for? It's a local unit
Take out the fuse from it and you will know yourself. There are 6 fuses at top left corner.
(http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue52/images/Pic-5--SA-11s2%20inside.jpg)
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on April 30, 2017, 13:16
Got hold of a SA11 S2, thinking of changing fuses to try. Does anyone know what specs to look for? It's a local unit
Any particular reason for doing so?
You know the adage, if it isn't broken, don't fix it..
The Reference Series kit are seriously over-engineered. Nothing really needs to be done...
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: bluepill193 on April 30, 2017, 13:41
Thanks tiktokape. Bro pete there are some who say that replacing the fuses leads to improvements,  more like a tweak rather than fixing any issues
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Tiktokape on April 30, 2017, 13:45
Yes, fuse tweak does provide improvement - i did for Oppo as well. Don't expect too much from default fuse. I will take ceramic fuse any given day.


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Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: AndrewC on April 30, 2017, 15:25
Got hold of a SA11 S2, thinking of changing fuses to try. Does anyone know what specs to look for? It's a local unit

There's an SA-11S2 Service Manual available online if you google... lots of great info in it, including fuse details, but best to open and check it out yourself as already suggested.

By the way, I was blown away by Synergistic Research’s Black fuses (http://www.synergisticresearch.com/fuses/black/)… Not cheap, but significantly better than HiFi Tuning ones, which’re already among the best. Give it a try if you’re not too opposed to spending on nearly $100 fuses each ;D
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: bluepill193 on April 30, 2017, 16:22
On their website it is now 119 USD each
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: mystream on April 30, 2017, 17:10
Actually if you compare RRP, it is S$10K here compared to HK S$7.7K.  So difference is 23%.  However, not sure the actual selling price here.  In HK, from google search, posted street price is around $7k or less.  So like what Pete said, if diff is not much, buy here.  YMMV.
I'm one of the early adopter of SA-10. I can say i pay close to HK price. As I said before, go check with Jay on detail pricing.

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Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: fgchong on April 30, 2017, 19:36
I'm one of the early adopter of SA-10. I can say i pay close to HK price. As I said before, go check with Jay on detail pricing.

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I owned a SA-7s1 some 8-9 years back, how is it compared against the SA-10 in term of overall sonic performance?
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: annapurna on April 30, 2017, 20:57
Good News to all Marantz SA10 fans and potential buyers. Jay just messaged me.  It is a happy ending after all.    Apparently DM Singpaore have heard our voices that HK and Japan is selling at a much cheaper price.  They have agreed to let Jay sell Marantz SA10 at price near to HK price.  It wlll be below S$8k.  So if you are interested, it makes more sense to buy from Jay now.  Cheers.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on April 30, 2017, 21:08
Yeah, support local :)
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: annapurna on April 30, 2017, 21:17
Yeah, support local :)
Yes, support if it is reasonable price.  :). 
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: titactoh on April 30, 2017, 21:41
I have a Marantz NA11s1 and the socket is a vertical 3 pin. The plug is never in place because it will droop though it is a stock cable and I can literally move it up and down.  (No problem with playing)
Any brother owning this item have the same experience ?

I recently bought a heavy cable with a bulbous plug. It will move in but loose and the droop is very accentuated. In such an instance is there sufficient current connection. If I move my hand away the plug may be dragged down by the heavy cable.

Is this common and how do I resolve it. I am thinking of having a support below the bulbous plug. Any advice ?


I also have a SA11s3 but hell, all along I did not know it is a 2 pin vertical socket.So the there is no way I can use a good cable with a 3 pin plug. I thought Marantz product should have the same type of socket that is vertical 3 pin.
As it is a stock cable is it is light but even then the plug in the socket is not tight and the fit is also loose.
It is a local set. (No problem with playing)

Thank you.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: CASH on April 30, 2017, 22:02
may i know what is the warranty period in singapore vs hong kong, for these premium marantz products?
if singapore gives 1 year, and hong kong gives 3 to 5 years, then i would think twice before supporting local.
and furthermore, singapore is still playing catch up to the prices being offered in hong kong.
DM singapore has a lot to think about before it can capture the local market, if u ask me.
1 year warranty does not entice me at all, truthfully speaking.
i rather buy things overseas with the risks involved with no warranty.
jus my honest opinion.
cheers!!
 ;)
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: mystream on April 30, 2017, 22:13
I owned a SA-7s1 some 8-9 years back, how is it compared against the SA-10 in term of overall sonic performance?

2 words: Detail and refine.

I have kakis giving up their Sa-7s1(running with clock)for SA-10...that's say how good it is. BTW, don't trust what I say...go listen yourself...
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: annapurna on April 30, 2017, 22:22
2 words: Detail and refine.

I have kakis giving up their Sa-7s1(running with clock)for SA-10...that's say how good it is. BTW, don't trust what I say...go listen yourself...

If you use Marantz NA11S1, can you output the digital out to SA10 and use the SA10 build in digital to analog conversion?
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: mystream on April 30, 2017, 22:25
I have a Marantz NA11s1 and the socket is a vertical 3 pin. The plug is never in place because it will droop though it is a stock cable and I can literally move it up and down.  (No problem with playing)
Any brother owning this item have the same experience ?

I recently bought a heavy cable with a bulbous plug. It will move in but loose and the droop is very accentuated. In such an instance is there sufficient current connection. If I move my hand away the plug may be dragged down by the heavy cable.

Is this common and how do I resolve it. I am thinking of having a support below the bulbous plug. Any advice ?


I also have a SA11s3 but hell, all along I did not know it is a 2 pin vertical socket.So the there is no way I can use a good cable with a 3 pin plug. I thought Marantz product should have the same type of socket that is vertical 3 pin.
As it is a stock cable is it is light but even then the plug in the socket is not tight and the fit is also loose.
It is a local set. (No problem with playing)

Thank you.

No issue and won't affect performance...I have NA11-s1, SA-10 and SA-11S3 (previously)  all are the same as what you describe.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: annapurna on April 30, 2017, 22:27
No issue and won't affect performance...I have NA11-s1, SA-10 and SA-11S3 (previously)  all are the same as what you describe.

Does the NA11 sound better thru its analog-out or thru digital-out to SA10 using the SA10 buildin DA conversion?
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: mystream on April 30, 2017, 22:30
If you use Marantz NA11S1, can you output the digital out to SA10 and use the SA10 build in digital to analog conversion?

Yes you can. I have a kaki who doesn't want to give up his dcs Puccini+u clock combo output his digital out to SA-10. Use SA-10 as a DAC
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: titactoh on April 30, 2017, 22:38

Thank you bro, Mystream for the assurance.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: mystream on April 30, 2017, 22:40
Does the NA11 sound better thru its analog-out or thru digital-out to SA10 using the SA10 buildin DA conversion?

Never tried outputting from NA-11 to SA-11. What I do is that I have 2 option to play my music. Either I play my CD direct from my SA-10 or thru NA-11s1 via digital coaxial. Both my SA-10 and NA-11s1 is connected to my PRE.

Now you will ask me why I do this....different "sound" and moreover I have already invested in NA-11S1 beforehand. ;)

Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: jonchew on May 01, 2017, 19:57
By the way, I was blown away by Synergistic Research’s Black fuses (http://www.synergisticresearch.com/fuses/black/)… Not cheap, but significantly better than HiFi Tuning ones, which’re already among the best. Give it a try if you’re not too opposed to spending on nearly $100 fuses each ;D
Yes. One of my friend changed his SA11s2 to audiophile grade fuses. The improvement is noticeable and I can said is
 vfm.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: bluepill193 on May 01, 2017, 20:34
Do you know which one he swapped? Got 6 fuses all together...
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: annapurna on May 01, 2017, 21:12
Never tried outputting from NA-11 to SA-11. What I do is that I have 2 option to play my music. Either I play my CD direct from my SA-10 or thru NA-11s1 via digital coaxial. Both my SA-10 and NA-11s1 is connected to my PRE.

Now you will ask me why I do this....different "sound" and moreover I have already invested in NA-11S1 beforehand. ;)


Thanks. It should be interesting to output the digital out from NA11S1 to SA10 as I would think the DA section of the SA10 is superior to the NA11S1.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: jonchew on May 03, 2017, 13:22
Do you know which one he swapped? Got 6 fuses all together...
Hi.sorry, I cant remember how many fuses. But you can try one by one and see yourself.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: macrotrust on May 03, 2017, 23:05
Do you know which one he swapped? Got 6 fuses all together...

Swap all 6 fuses at one go. U can see the 3 fuses behind the transformers for the digital and another 3 for analogue.
https://www.audioasylum.com/cgi/vt.mpl?f=hirez&m=281506
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: bluepill193 on May 03, 2017, 23:21
Bro macrotrust, the link you gave is for the S3, not S2...
Somebody on AVSforum say swap 2 power rail fuses and one for the dac
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: cstanxpl on February 13, 2018, 09:43
SA-10 review from WHF?

https://www.whathifi.com/marantz/sa-10/review
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: malsound on August 31, 2018, 16:41
https://www.analogplanet.com/content/marantz-debuts-ki-ruby-sacd-playerdac-and-integrated-amplifier-amsterdam’s-concertgebouw (https://www.analogplanet.com/content/marantz-debuts-ki-ruby-sacd-playerdac-and-integrated-amplifier-amsterdam’s-concertgebouw)
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: malsound on September 10, 2018, 18:33

http://www.youtube.com/v/CfPGjMkllcs&fs=1
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: zaek on October 06, 2018, 09:23
Any bro here hear the SA-Ki Ruby and compare it with the SA-10?
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: annapurna on October 07, 2018, 00:21
Any bro here hear the SA-Ki Ruby and compare it with the SA-10?
Is the KI Ruby available locally?  How much is the selling price?
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: bigbird on October 07, 2018, 12:03
Disappointed to find out there is no balance XLR output for the Ruby.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: zaek on October 12, 2018, 07:35
Any bro owns a SA-10? Care to share your experience?
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Goldberg on October 12, 2018, 20:58
I’ve a few friends who owe SA-10 after their SA-7 died. They claimed the sound exceed SA-7 with more detail retrieval.

I’m very satisfied with my SA-7 with NA-11 as DAC but there’s no way to repair SA-7 if anything goes wrong as there’s no replacement parts available.

SA-10 alone is better than SA-7 & NA-11 combined as I was told.

I’ll consider SA-10 when the day comes when mine stop working properly.



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Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: francishuang on October 12, 2018, 22:23
The sa10 noise floor is low. A very gd redbook cdp, punches well above its weight. For sacd playback, i feel its quite lacking.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: zaek on October 12, 2018, 22:31
Appreciate the sharing!
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Goldberg on October 13, 2018, 01:12
The sa10 noise floor is low. A very gd redbook cdp, punches well above its weight. For sacd playback, i feel its quite lacking.

May I know why SA-10 SACD playback is lacking? Are you comparing it with its redbook or with other SACD player? If it’s the latter then which player are you referring to?


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Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: francishuang on October 13, 2018, 01:21
Comparing it with other sacd players. For sacd playback, it gives me the feeling its trying to hard, its not able to render resolution in a fluid way. But of course i am comparing it to cdp tpt dac tat costs much more. For redbook cd playback, at this price point, It is very very good even compare to much more exp players. At one point i was even considering having the sa10 to play redbook and get an emm lab cdp for sacd playback. Did not materialise due to budget and space.

Do you have friends using mentronme range of cdp?Theres a new model call AQWO, both the redbook and sacd playback is very good. Do check it out

May I know why SA-10 SACD playback is lacking? Are you comparing it with its redbook or with other SACD player? If it’s the latter then which player are you referring to?


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Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Goldberg on October 13, 2018, 02:52
Comparing it with other sacd players. For sacd playback, it gives me the feeling its trying to hard, its not able to render resolution in a fluid way. But of course i am comparing it to cdp tpt dac tat costs much more. For redbook cd playback, at this price point, It is very very good even compare to much more exp players. At one point i was even considering having the sa10 to play redbook and get an emm lab cdp for sacd playback. Did not materialise due to budget and space.

Do you have friends using mentronme range of cdp?Theres a new model call AQWO, both the redbook and sacd playback is very good. Do check it out

Yes I have 4 friends using Metronome transport with SA-10 as DAC. They claim the transport is very good but it costs much more than SA-10.


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Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: francishuang on October 13, 2018, 07:49
Do check out the Metronome AQWO, around 16 17k with the optional tube output drivers, without will be lesser. Its about the same cost as tpt + sa10.

I have friends whom have changed to this from their much more expensive equipment
Yes I have 4 friends using Metronome transport with SA-10 as DAC. They claim the transport is very good but it costs much more than SA-10.


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Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: annapurna on October 13, 2018, 10:46
Appreciate the sharing!
I have the SA10 and use it as a player and DAC.  This is from notes sometime back when I was using RCA out to a Airtight preamp - I heard on CDs the following - The Best of Earl Klugh, Sundance Flamenco by James Bohchak, Otmar Liebert Noveau Flamenco, Kraftwerk Live 3D, Nathan East Reverence. On SACD, I tried with Diana Krall The Girl in the Other Room, Natalie Cole Ask A Woman Who Knows, Chris and Friends (Mandarin disc), Norah Jones Come Away With Me, Tsai Chin (Mandarin Disc). Disc after disc, the SA10 never fail to impress me. The low level resolution, the ultra low level of noise is just eerie. On Kraftwerk and Earl Klugh, the bass extension just go real low and taut and not boomy.

Subsequently I had the chance to try the XLR output of the SA10 to the XLR input of a BAT VK53SE preamp. Btw, the BAT VK53SE is a full balanced preamp.  There is tremendous improvement in sound compared to the RCA out. Is this attributed to the SA10 or BAT pre, I really dont know. But the fact is that I heard bass that goes so much extended and lower probably another octave and each bass notes can be easily followed. Depth, detail and soundstage improved as well. So if anyone of you are using the SA10, do try the XLR output and I am sure you can hear the difference.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: annapurna on October 13, 2018, 10:49
Do check out the Metronome AQWO, around 16 17k with the optional tube output drivers, without will be lesser. Its about the same cost as tpt + sa10.

I have friends whom have changed to this from their much more expensive equipment
I have heard the Metronome AQWO but not in direct comparisons with SA10.  It does sound very good.  It is very analogue and sounded close to listening to vinyl.  It will be good to be able to do a direct AB with a SA10 :)
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: malsound on November 10, 2018, 02:57

http://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/marantz-is-back-40th-anniversary-marantz-ki-ruby-series/

Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: malsound on December 05, 2018, 19:38
http://www.youtube.com/v/mWwlfTcq6ck&fs=1
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on December 05, 2018, 20:15
Heard the Ruby series in action. Nice but for the price, it's not too VFM...
Met the man himself.. now that was priceless..
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: lobster on March 06, 2019, 10:29
Hi bros,

Besides Alpha Audio, anyone else carries SA-10? I don't seem to be able to find Jay Audio's whereabout.
Thanks.

Cheers,

Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Goldberg on March 06, 2019, 22:30
Hi bros,

Besides Alpha Audio, anyone else carries SA-10? I don't seem to be able to find Jay Audio's whereabout.
Thanks.

Cheers,


Jay Audio moved to 3rd floor of Lavender Place. You can contact his mobile 90677717


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Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: lobster on March 06, 2019, 23:46
Bro Goldberg

Thank you.

Bought the cheaper KI Ruby this afternoon.

Cheers,
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: bluepill193 on March 07, 2019, 09:00
My 2nd hand sa11s2 cannot read the disc (especially sacd, often redbook as well) unless i let it warm up for about 10-15 minutes. The lens should be about 3 years old, is it the cause? Or is it some failing capacitors etc? Appreciate your comment and where to send for servicing, thanks!
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Saycheese78 on March 07, 2019, 09:31
Electronics
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: zaek on March 07, 2019, 20:35
Bro, I have similar issues previously. I guess is common issue for wear and tear after sometime. Went back to Marantz service center tochange a new pickup lens and dont know fix what. Cost me $340. All is well until now since 2015.

My 2nd hand sa11s2 cannot read the disc (especially sacd, often redbook as well) unless i let it warm up for about 10-15 minutes. The lens should be about 3 years old, is it the cause? Or is it some failing capacitors etc? Appreciate your comment and where to send for servicing, thanks!
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: Goldberg on March 07, 2019, 23:36
My SA-7S1 also has problem after more than 10 years the wear & tear issue is surfacing. Sometimes the cd tray auto close back after press open or it cannot read the cd after initiate power on. Takes a few minutes for it to stabilize then it will be fine.

Once it kaput I will get SA-10 as there is no more replacement parts for this old model.

The price difference between KI Ruby and SA-10 is not very substantial so getting SA-10 is a no brainer in my opinion.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: cstanxpl on May 16, 2019, 16:22
Marantz brand ambassador Ken Ishiwata leaves company after 41 years

https://www.whathifi.com/news/marantz-brand-ambassador-ken-ishiwata-leaves-company-after-41-years?fbclid=IwAR0FmzhpI7D8RzpzcgetP9GImSFb4ntIOP61xpt-DKKXBCNbCQiuXaG5WEM

He should start his own audio brand, KI Audio etc.
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: petetherock on May 16, 2019, 16:30
Time to move on.. especially since the prices have been rising in recent years?
Title: Re: Marantz Owner's thread - stereo products only
Post by: lkypeter on May 16, 2019, 23:44
Marantz brand ambassador Ken Ishiwata leaves company after 41 years

https://www.whathifi.com/news/marantz-brand-ambassador-ken-ishiwata-leaves-company-after-41-years?fbclid=IwAR0FmzhpI7D8RzpzcgetP9GImSFb4ntIOP61xpt-DKKXBCNbCQiuXaG5WEM

He should start his own audio brand, KI Audio etc.
Perhaps related to news the Sound Audio might be buying up Marantz, Onkyo and Pioneer in a single deal. Still subject to definitive agreements and due diligence. Just a guess.