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Title: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: petetherock on May 31, 2008, 13:53
This brand has always been one of my favorites and I even bought a 250W amp in case I venture back into this some time soon.

A look at their new Excite speaker line:

http://www.dynaudio.com/eng/systems/lines/lines/excite.php

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Excite Range

Two names, two promises: Dynaudio Excite. The new Excite loudspeaker models combine high end audio performance and pure musical fun.
Dynaudio Excite is instant and non-stop dynamics – sheer entertainment with any music, with any amp, at any volume.

There is now a high end loudspeaker that does not require the highest grade amplifier in order to sound convincing. This is because the Excite models make the most of any amplifier's or receiver's power, quickly and precisely following the music signal, efficiently converting every Watt into nothing but exceptional sound quality.

Dynaudio took advantage of their vast knowledge of loudspeaker technology to develop a unique and unrivaled loudspeaker series that would achieve this elevated level of performance. The Excite comprises legendary Dynaudio innovations such as Magnesium Silicate Polymer (MSP) membranes, die-cast aluminium frame baskets, lightweight aluminium voice coils, and specially coated soft dome tweeters - all united in a new driver design.
Improved magnet structures, enhanced voice coils, optimized first-order (6 dB per octave) crossover networks and further refinement of all relevant technical parameters highlight this exacting high performance loudspeaker series: Life-like dynamics, the utmost musical enjoyment, and the highest level of quality and performance ever achieved from systems in this price class.

The Dynaudio Excite models allow the musical capabilities of every audio system and any source will be fully experienced - with any style of music.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: francis woo on May 31, 2008, 14:03
Great, you can get the Excite 36 and bring it to my place for a shoot out.......... ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: petetherock on May 31, 2008, 14:05
A video on how Dyn speakers are made:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ak8Ck8UzCOE
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: francis woo on May 31, 2008, 15:11
Bro, you are going to Germany!!!!  If you need some advice on tour spots, pm Nassim who lives in Rhein.  He went to the Munich HiEnd show recently and passed me a disc on the equipment displayed.  We are on regular email contact.......... :D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: IwishIwasToneDeaf on May 31, 2008, 20:29
This brand has always been one of my favorites and I even bought a 250W amp in case I venture back into this some time soon.

A look at their new Excite speaker line:

http://www.dynaudio.com/eng/systems/lines/lines/excite.php


Hey man, I'm running my Focus 110 with a mere Densen integrated. I must say that the Densen can drive and control the pair of bookshelves well in my 5x4m room. And I do listen to my Dyns loud. ;D

Good luck in your hunt!
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: domj on May 31, 2008, 23:51
Excite line is supposed to be more amp friendly too though specs for all models hover ard 87db and 4ohms. Anyway, will be interesting to see how it stacks up against the Contour and Focus range.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: mc2 on June 01, 2008, 23:19
According to Dynaudio, they claim that the impedance of the excite range should be closer to 6 ohms rather than 4, and hence easier to drive. The price seems to have increased wrt to the Audience range though. Quite a bummer. Also, the new mid/bass driver without the cone/dome takes away the iconic look that is so of typical of Dyns.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: venturer on June 02, 2008, 01:16
Excite X12 got tiny dome

(http://www.21hifi.com/newshifi/hifishow/Germany2008/img2/10.jpg)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: mc2 on June 03, 2008, 00:47
That driver actually reminds me of the old Contour 1.1.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: petetherock on October 15, 2008, 23:51
The Excite series:

http://www.hometheatermag.com/compactspeakers/1008dyn/
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on October 23, 2008, 20:40
Thanks Pete for the introductions of the Dyns.... :D :D

Dear members,

Once again, we are participating in the ISSE 08, you may visit us at Room 730.

We'll be showcasing the "Excite" series with Plinius 9200, CD101 wired with Full Nordost Cables with some Finite Elemente Accessories.

" Hear the Synergy"

So at the meantime, our showroom will be close during these days.

See you guy!  :D

Dynaudio Singapore
Title: Excite X 12
Post by: petetherock on July 21, 2009, 01:37
http://www.goodsound.com/equipment/dynaudio_excite_x12.htm

Note this is based on a MSRP of USD 1200, which is not what we pay for it here.

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Conclusion

In some ways, Dynaudio’s Excite X12 won’t seem too, um, exciting, at least for its price. It’s very well built and nicely finished -- but at $1200/pair, it should be. It has a fairly neutral tonal balance and is very well extended in the highs, but its size limits its bass extension. The X12 is fairly easy to drive and should work well with a wide variety of amps, but it will play only so loud, and is better suited to a small- or mid-sized room than to a large one. In that way, it’s kind of ho-hum.

But any ho-hum quality is overcome by the Excite X12’s tremendous strengths. The X12s do the best "disappearing" act of any small speaker I know of at or near its price. Voices and instruments exit the cabinets leaving no hint of where they came from. The X12s also create a sense of spaciousness that make them sound like much larger speakers, and lay out a soundstage with first-rate precision. The midband is marvelously detailed and beautifully fleshed out -- voices sound natural, real, and alive, and the way they leap from these little boxes is impressive to hear. Last but not least, the X12’s highs extend freely, cleanly, and sweetly. These are traits that beg comparison with speakers considerably higher in price.

Every loudspeaker is a balance of compromises. You can’t get everything out of a pair of small boxes -- there will always be deficiencies. But it’s the Dynaudio Excite X12’s considerable strengths that make it special, even unique -- I don’t know of another small speaker that plays quite like this one. The Excite X12 is now one of my favorite small speakers, and certainly is something to get excited about.

Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: humyt on July 23, 2009, 16:32
Dynaudio is unveiling a new speaker on 8/8, looks to be super high-end and $$$$  8)

http://www.dynaudio.com/eng/ue4.php


Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: sae91 on July 23, 2009, 17:40
This brand has always been one of my favorites and I even bought a 250W amp in case I venture back into this some time soon.

A look at their new Excite speaker line:

http://www.dynaudio.com/eng/systems/lines/lines/excite.php

I think you actually need high current amp instead of high power amp to drive these speakers, just like the Thiels.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: venturer on July 24, 2009, 12:32
Dynaudio is unveiling a new speaker on 8/8, looks to be super high-end and $$$$  8)

http://www.dynaudio.com/eng/ue4.php


Hope that it’s not too high-end. Not those expensive spk than can only be admired but can’t afford to buy.
It will be great if it’s a new version of Contour or range below.


(http://www.dynaudio.com/images/news/ue/ue4.jpg)

(http://www.dynaudio.com/images/news/ue/ue1.jpg)
picture is too dark, can't see shape or size
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: yihyan on July 24, 2009, 13:39
Hope that it’s not too high-end. Not those expensive spk than can only be admired but can’t afford to buy.
It will be great if it’s a new version of Contour or range below.


(http://www.dynaudio.com/images/news/ue/ue4.jpg)

(http://www.dynaudio.com/images/news/ue/ue1.jpg)
picture is too dark, can't see shape or size


I think this new speakers will be between the confidence and evidence range :)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on July 24, 2009, 14:09
Hope that it’s not too high-end. Not those expensive spk than can only be admired but can’t afford to buy.
It will be great if it’s a new version of Contour or range below.


(http://www.dynaudio.com/images/news/ue/ue4.jpg)

(http://www.dynaudio.com/images/news/ue/ue1.jpg)
picture is too dark, can't see shape or size


Difinately is not the Contour or below  ;D ;D ;D Can only admire nia  :P
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on July 24, 2009, 14:11
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I think this new speakers will be between the confidence and evidence range :)

Just look at the finishing of the drivers basket can already tell the quality... ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: seller on July 26, 2009, 18:18
judge spk by it's look? hmmm.... ::) :P
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: seanyzf on July 27, 2009, 12:02
How abt a Excite X16 vs a Focus 110 as their price range is ard the same.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on July 27, 2009, 12:33
How abt a Excite X16 vs a Focus 110 as their price range is ard the same.

The Focus 110 is a better performer than X16. But require abit more power.  :D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: seanyzf on July 27, 2009, 13:16
i got a Roksan Caspian pumping out 70W/8ohm and 100W/4ohm. Do you recommend it?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on July 27, 2009, 14:48
i got a Roksan Caspian pumping out 70W/8ohm and 100W/4ohm. Do you recommend it?

Since you owned a Roksan Caspian..I would recommend either you go with the X12 or 16..Focus 110 is out.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: seanyzf on July 27, 2009, 14:54
hmmm. so what range of amp do you recommend? I saw a fellow forumer pairing a Canto 300i with his Focus 110 though. 
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on July 27, 2009, 15:03
Ya..Yihyan is using the Bel Canto for the 110...previously he find the Roksan is not suitable for it coz he has different preference.

Most of the Dyns owners are using these amplifiers...Plinius 9100/9200  ;D Primare I20/30, NADs, Naims, Densen, Caiyin, old Krell etc...

Above amps mentions are the most common partners, but end of the days is subjectives to individuals.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: wolverex on July 29, 2009, 17:23
Having tried a few other amps, Roksan Kandy, Classe CAP100 i finally settled with a Plinius 9100. I'm a Focus 110 user
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: nexski on July 30, 2009, 23:21
Hmmm seems that Focus 110 is the hot favorite among the lot. Anyone wanna share their experience why they are buying this speaker, it seems small from the website.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: domj on July 31, 2009, 10:29
Hmmm seems that Focus 110 is the hot favorite among the lot. Anyone wanna share their experience why they are buying this speaker, it seems small from the website.

It's a small speaker with a big sound  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: petetherock on July 31, 2009, 14:10
Favorite amongst what selection?
Many buyers are sensitive to the price too...
There are also brands like Harbeth, Spendor or B/W 8 series, if you have under 5k.
Cheers
Hmmm seems that Focus 110 is the hot favorite among the lot. Anyone wanna share their experience why they are buying this speaker, it seems small from the website.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: francis woo on July 31, 2009, 14:14
It's a small speaker with a big sound  ;D

Don't think so, the honor goes to the C1s'.  These are really small speaker with the biggest sound........ ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: nexski on July 31, 2009, 15:32
Don't think so, the honor goes to the C1s'.  These are really small speaker with the biggest sound........ ;D

True but how much more are you paying? The 110 is just 2k+ but the C1 is >10k if i am not wrong, not a fair comparison Bro.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on July 31, 2009, 16:04
True but how much more are you paying? The 110 is just 2k+ but the C1 is >10k if i am not wrong, not a fair comparison Bro.

The C1 is totally in a different league. Much better designed cabinet and front buffles, drives units are of much high high grades. 1pc of C1 tweeter already can buy 1 pair of Focus 110 :P

So can't do a fair comparison. ;)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: francis woo on July 31, 2009, 16:06
True but how much more are you paying? The 110 is just 2k+ but the C1 is >10k if i am not wrong, not a fair comparison Bro.

I am comparing sizes vis a vis the sound they produce and not their values.......... :)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: AndrewC on August 02, 2009, 20:31
By the way, there's a new Dynaudio speaker to be released soon. Looks exciting :)
Dynaudio Teaser (http://www.dynaudio.com/eng/ue.php)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: francis woo on August 02, 2009, 21:42
I hope to see the launch in the Hkg Hi-end show next weekend...... 8)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: seanyzf on September 09, 2009, 10:42
Guys, my 52SE's tweeters has dust sticking on it. Tried using brush but cant get them off, how do remove them ar? scare wait use something will damage it..  ;D 
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on September 09, 2009, 12:26
Guys, my 52SE's tweeters has dust sticking on it. Tried using brush but cant get them off, how do remove them ar? scare wait use something will damage it..  ;D 

Better leave it alone...or else accidentally damage the tweeter it will cost u a bomb to replace it.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: seanyzf on September 09, 2009, 12:33
ya Esotec not cheap.. but relli an eyesore on such a beautiful speakers.  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on September 09, 2009, 12:42
Hmmm...no choice wat...why Singapore so dusty :P

I use a super seasoned yellow cloth which already no fibres attached..dammed it dry and lightly clean it but you must be very careful in doing it...do at your own risk ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: seanyzf on September 09, 2009, 12:45
on your confidence?  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on September 09, 2009, 13:01
on your confidence?  ;D

Off coz not lah  :P my Focus..hehehe..
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: seanyzf on September 09, 2009, 13:05
hahaha though r u so brave.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: zapp on September 09, 2009, 13:15
Off coz not lah  :P my Focus..hehehe..
I still cant forget the sound of the TEMPTATION leh...:p
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on September 09, 2009, 13:34
I still cant forget the sound of the TEMPTATION leh...:p

That's why they named it "Temptation" you're tempted with the sound.  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: domj on September 09, 2009, 13:36
Guys, my 52SE's tweeters has dust sticking on it. Tried using brush but cant get them off, how do remove them ar? scare wait use something will damage it..  ;D 

FWIW, I have used scrotch tape and it works fine. A light touch is fine..
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on September 09, 2009, 13:47
FWIW, I have used scrotch tape and it works fine. A light touch is fine..

My advise to you is better don't use scotch tape...the laquer coating will stick to the tape and that's it lah...hor seh liao!   ;D ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: seanyzf on September 09, 2009, 13:54
The coating make it a dust attraction. Now need to put the grill back on to prevent more dust sticking onto it.  :-\
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on September 10, 2009, 10:38
hi all, a friend was to know. how much is Focus 140 retailing at in SG?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on September 10, 2009, 10:55
hi all, a friend was to know. how much is Focus 140 retailing at in SG?

Focus 140 is retailing for $2985 per pair before discount  ;)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: seanyzf on September 10, 2009, 11:10
that was fast..  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: hca2 on September 10, 2009, 11:39
Focus 140 is retailing for $2985 per pair before discount  ;)
hi how about focus 220mk1and mk2. thanks
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: seanyzf on September 10, 2009, 11:42
and S3.4..  :D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on September 10, 2009, 11:42
hi how about focus 220mk1and mk2. thanks

Focus 220 is $4635.00 and 220 II is $4935.00.

If you're considering the above our bro humyt is selling his pair for $3.7k only..4mths old nia...sibei worth it...got warranty somoremore  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on September 10, 2009, 11:43
and S3.4..  :D

S3.4 is $9125.00  :P
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: seanyzf on September 10, 2009, 11:59
Focus 220 is $4635.00 and 220 II is $4935.00.

If you're considering the above our bro humyt is selling his pair for $3.7k only..4mths old nia...sibei worth it...got warranty somoremore  ;D

Ya damm worth it with huge discount off. If i were u, i will wack str away liao.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: seanyzf on September 10, 2009, 12:00
S3.4 is $9125.00  :P

mamamiya! i think i will have to look at Focus floorstander liao.  >:(
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: hca2 on September 10, 2009, 13:13
Focus 220 is $4635.00 and 220 II is $4935.00.

If you're considering the above our bro humyt is selling his pair for $3.7k only..4mths old nia...sibei worth it...got warranty somoremore  ;D

bro humyt his focus 220 mk2 when new is 4.2k as per his add i dont know how true is that
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: seanyzf on September 10, 2009, 13:16
can always ask for receipt mah.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on September 10, 2009, 14:00
bro humyt his focus 220 mk2 when new is 4.2k as per his add i dont know how true is that

He bought it as a package with the centre channel plus some Exite X12 for rears...No worries if he doesn't have the receipt and I can always prove to you.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: jonlee on September 10, 2009, 14:02
S3.4 is $9125.00  :P

boss, which plinius can handle this spk well?   ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: hca2 on September 10, 2009, 14:03
He bought it as a package with the centre channel plus some Exite X12 for rears...No worries if he doesn't have the receipt and I can always prove to you.


wow very good discount,must wait until recession over
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dane on September 10, 2009, 14:21
I just got a Primare 31.2 power amp to drive my Focus 140's and I am very happy with the combination.

I would suggest the guys looking at the Focus 220 to consider if they may be too bass heavy for your listening room. My 140's placed 1.2m from rear wall definately dont lack in the bass department and my room is 4.5 x 7 m.

Would be great if dealers here would let u try speakers in your actual listening room..
Title: Listening Sessions ?
Post by: vp171s on September 10, 2009, 15:00
Any chance Dynaudio users can organize a listening session ? ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on September 10, 2009, 15:14
boss, which plinius can handle this spk well?   ;D

Minium standard is 9200 but best will be Hiato, M8 & SA201 or SA103 :D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: francis woo on September 10, 2009, 15:19
Minium standard is 9200 but best will be Hiato, M8 & SA201 or SA103 :D

What about the P10!!...... :)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on September 10, 2009, 15:21
What about the P10!!...... :)

P10 is similar design concept as the 9200 integrated..just w/out the pre stage.  :D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on September 12, 2009, 11:42
Now, this is new toy in the showroom..pardon my poor resolutions camera from my phone  :P

(http://i512.photobucket.com/albums/t322/rotti15/DSC00180.jpg)


Dynaudio Consequence Ultimate Editions. 

 
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: zapp on September 12, 2009, 11:48
SIAO LIAO lol...boss what happen to temptation!!
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on September 12, 2009, 11:51
SIAO LIAO lol...boss what happen to temptation!!

The Temptation took some rest after long time of non-stop singing  ;D now parked at 1 corner  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: seanyzf on September 12, 2009, 14:54
The Temptation took some rest after long time of non-stop singing  ;D now parked at 1 corner  ;D ;D

park at my hse better, i will show her all the love.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on September 12, 2009, 15:19
Damn, you beat me to it ;)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: djdyks on September 15, 2009, 11:17
Now, this is new toy in the showroom..pardon my poor resolutions camera from my phone  :P

(http://i512.photobucket.com/albums/t322/rotti15/DSC00180.jpg)


Dynaudio Consequence Ultimate Editions. 

 
May i know whether the Plinius capable of driving the Consequence to peak ?
TQ !
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on September 15, 2009, 11:57
May i know whether the Plinius capable of driving the Consequence to peak ?
TQ !

The Plinius SA-REF is sufficient to drive the Consequence but if can have 2 units of that in bridge mode would be in another league...
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: tonedeft on September 18, 2009, 23:43
Hello
Cn ask the price of audience 42c &122c?
TQ
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on September 19, 2009, 08:07
Hello
Cn ask the price of audience 42c &122c?
TQ

Sorry bro,

The above models has been discontinued.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: seanyzf on September 19, 2009, 22:29
What kind of speaker cables and IC do u all usually pair up with your dynaudio? Now using some no brand 14awg silver cable and mogami 2803 IC on my 52se. Its seem to be abit on the bright side, wondering how to tame toward the warmer side. 
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: xerox on September 19, 2009, 23:36
What kind of speaker cables and IC do u all usually pair up with your dynaudio? Now using some no brand 14awg silver cable and mogami 2803 IC on my 52se. Its seem to be abit on the bright side, wondering how to tame toward the warmer side. 

Use VDH cabling to tame it but i never felt the Dynaudio to be bright.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: nexski on September 19, 2009, 23:44
What kind of speaker cables and IC do u all usually pair up with your dynaudio? Now using some no brand 14awg silver cable and mogami 2803 IC on my 52se. Its seem to be abit on the bright side, wondering how to tame toward the warmer side. 

Avoid using silver then just change to some copper speaker cable shall do the trick , what source you using?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: rahul on September 19, 2009, 23:49
Thinking of getting the DYnaudio 220 MKII on sale...

Whats the cheapest Stereo amp to drive them. Plinnius out of range.
My current Rotel power amp really not worth it I think...

Am scared that if somehow push my budget to buy the 220 MKII...then pair with a not so good amp, will be a waste of good speakers  :-\
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: nexski on September 20, 2009, 00:02
Thinking of getting the DYnaudio 220 MKII on sale...

Whats the cheapest Stereo amp to drive them. Plinnius out of range.
My current Rotel power amp really not worth it I think...

Am scared that if somehow push my budget to buy the 220 MKII...then pair with a not so good amp, will be a waste of good speakers  :-\


Whats your budget for your Stereo amp? You are right , the 220MKII definitely deserved a good amp to make it sing.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: IwishIwasToneDeaf on September 20, 2009, 00:16
Hi Guys, does anyone out there own the Dynaudio BM-5A? Yes the active speakers. I'm interested in using it for PC audio.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: rahul on September 20, 2009, 01:16
Whats your budget for your Stereo amp? You are right , the 220MKII definitely deserved a good amp to make it sing.

Around 1500-2000$. Getting something used will be more practical....
Really want to cover the amp side before putting down the money for MKII.
I understand they are not easy to drive and only the best amps can keep it company...

Have heard them auditioned with Plinius and boy do they sing !!!
But Plinius is obviously far far away from my budget.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: seanyzf on September 20, 2009, 03:16
Use VDH cabling to tame it but i never felt the Dynaudio to be bright.

Its not so when I audit it, sound so sweet especially on LP.

Avoid using silver then just change to some copper speaker cable shall do the trick , what source you using?

I'm thinking of trying Belden 1313A or some 7N UPOCC Copper Wire. not sure how will it turn out.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: OmegaRed on September 20, 2009, 07:18
Hi Guys, does anyone out there own the Dynaudio BM-5A? Yes the active speakers. I'm interested in using it for PC audio.

bro, look at mc15 instead. :)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on September 20, 2009, 08:29
Hi Guys, does anyone out there own the Dynaudio BM-5A? Yes the active speakers. I'm interested in using it for PC audio.

Bro,

Don't waste your money lah...keep your Densen B300 and use it to drive the Focus 110, anytime much better than the MC15 :D  You already reached this standard liao, I don't think you want to compromise the MC15 sound.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on September 20, 2009, 08:31
Thinking of getting the DYnaudio 220 MKII on sale...

Whats the cheapest Stereo amp to drive them. Plinnius out of range.
My current Rotel power amp really not worth it I think...

Am scared that if somehow push my budget to buy the 220 MKII...then pair with a not so good amp, will be a waste of good speakers  :-\


Check with Bro humyt. He's driving it with the Rotel sounded good in his big HT room.  :D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: IwishIwasToneDeaf on September 20, 2009, 14:01
Bro,

Don't waste your money lah...keep your Densen B300 and use it to drive the Focus 110, anytime much better than the MC15 :D  You already reached this standard liao, I don't think you want to compromise the MC15 sound.

Hi Bro,

Im interested in the BM-5A for PC audio in the study room. Just hook up a USB DAC Pre to it and done! Thus asking for opinions and price check.

I'm still keeping the Focus 110. Don't worry, cant bare to sell those away. ;) 
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on September 20, 2009, 17:34
Hi Bro,

Im interested in the BM-5A for PC audio in the study room. Just hook up a USB DAC Pre to it and done! Thus asking for opinions and price check.

I'm still keeping the Focus 110. Don't worry, cant bare to sell those away. ;) 

Ooh... :P  MC15 is $2450.00.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: sound_wave on September 20, 2009, 20:57
I would like to upgrade my speaker cables and would like some advise as to which ones is suitable for my Focus 110 speakers. I'm currently using Primare i21 amp, mac mini hook up to dacmagic as source and qed xtube 300 speaker cables. I would like to improve the details and clarity without making it sound bright. I also prefer warm over bright sound. The good thing about my current cables is it's very neutral which suits my current system well.    

Some cables I'm considering include kimber 8tc and qed revelation speaker cables. I understand the qed revelation is silver plated so may sound bright but based on whathifi and hifichoice reviews, it seems the cable is quite neutral and very detailed. The kimber cables on the other hand is highly recommended to me but is a tad more expensive than the qeds.

Any advise pls?  Tks!
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on September 20, 2009, 21:19
I think QEDs are a bit over priced here.

I had the Revelations for abt 400 bucks ++ (locally terminated) and swapped for a longer run of Synergistic Research Alpha (400 bucks) factory terminated and the QED didn't even pass muster.

Have heard different Kimber cables in other systems and they do sound very good when matched properly.

Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: sound_wave on September 20, 2009, 22:33
Thanks for the quick response.

There's this shop in adelphi that sells the qeds for 40 dollars per metre so the pricing is still reasonable. It's the qed banana plugs that are really overpriced.

I'm quite curious about the synergistic research cables. R the cables warm sounding or neutral? How do u compare it to kimber cables? Lastly, where can I buy the cables from? Maybe u can let me know how much is the pricing per metre. Tks!

Maybe other dynaudio speaker owners can also share what type of cables you use? Tks. 
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on September 20, 2009, 22:57
On my system, the QED Revelations was very thin on the bass and a bit bright. The Alphas gave it more low end detail.

But I opted for the Silversmith Audio Silver ribbon in the end.

Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on September 20, 2009, 23:20
I would like to upgrade my speaker cables and would like some advise as to which ones is suitable for my Focus 110 speakers. I'm currently using Primare i21 amp, mac mini hook up to dacmagic as source and qed xtube 300 speaker cables. I would like to improve the details and clarity without making it sound bright. I also prefer warm over bright sound. The good thing about my current cables is it's very neutral which suits my current system well.    

Some cables I'm considering include kimber 8tc and qed revelation speaker cables. I understand the qed revelation is silver plated so may sound bright but based on whathifi and hifichoice reviews, it seems the cable is quite neutral and very detailed. The kimber cables on the other hand is highly recommended to me but is a tad more expensive than the qeds.

Any advise pls?  Tks!

If you're setup now sounded just nice to you with the QED Xtube 300, why don't you try some tweaks like isolators footers to improves the setup further instead of changing the QED. Kimber 8TC is a much better performer the your XT300 no doubt is cost a little more. Good tweaks really helps alot on your whole setup.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: tonedeft on September 20, 2009, 23:26
Cn recommend some footers/isolators? Also if anyone knows where to get them (if any) in Taipei, please let me know. Thanks
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on September 20, 2009, 23:37
Cn recommend some footers/isolators? Also if anyone knows where to get them (if any) in Taipei, please let me know. Thanks

Sorry I'm not sure where you can get isolators/footers from Taipei, maybe Francis should know ;D

If you want neutral, lots of micro-dynamics but can create 3D sounding try Finite Elemente Ceraball Universal (4pcs for $280)

More dynamics and also wide soundstage Nordost Pulsar Points (Aluminium or Titanium 4pcs $190 and $560)

Some of our fellow bros here also using TAOC footers/isolators are also very well recommended :D

Title: OCOS cable vs Others ?
Post by: vp171s on September 21, 2009, 00:00
Has anyone compared using the OCOS speaker cables in their Dynaudio setup versus other cables ? Any feedbacks ?
Title: Re: OCOS cable vs Others ?
Post by: dynaudio on September 21, 2009, 10:28
Has anyone compared using the OCOS speaker cables in their Dynaudio setup versus other cables ? Any feedbacks ?

OCOS is well recommended by Dynaudio for their neutrality with low impedance. Good smooth mids & highs but bass is alittle shy. For those who wants abit more slam can try double the cables. Hmmm...as for price....not cheap...$139/m :P
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: IwishIwasToneDeaf on September 21, 2009, 12:39
Thanks for the quick response.

There's this shop in adelphi that sells the qeds for 40 dollars per metre so the pricing is still reasonable. It's the qed banana plugs that are really overpriced.

I'm quite curious about the synergistic research cables. R the cables warm sounding or neutral? How do u compare it to kimber cables? Lastly, where can I buy the cables from? Maybe u can let me know how much is the pricing per metre. Tks!

Maybe other dynaudio speaker owners can also share what type of cables you use? Tks. 

Hi sound_wave, mentioned to you over email before. I kinda felt the 8TC had good synergy with my Focus previously. Typically off the 2nd hand market, it goes for around S$50/m. To me this is value for money and you probably won't have trouble reselling off at a similar price.

Cheers!
Title: Re: OCOS cable vs Others ?
Post by: seanyzf on September 21, 2009, 13:03
OCOS is well recommended by Dynaudio for their neutrality with low impedance. Good smooth mids & highs but bass is alittle shy. For those who wants abit more slam can try double the cables. Hmmm...as for price....not cheap...$139/m :P

your side retailing it ar?
Title: Re: OCOS cable vs Others ?
Post by: dynaudio on September 21, 2009, 13:40
your side retailing it ar?

Yup!
Title: Re: OCOS cable vs Others ?
Post by: vp171s on September 22, 2009, 17:03
OCOS is well recommended by Dynaudio for their neutrality with low impedance. Good smooth mids & highs but bass is alittle shy. For those who wants abit more slam can try double the cables. Hmmm...as for price....not cheap...$139/m :P

You mean 1 strand for + & 1 for - on each side ?

Another question - any advantage to using the OCOS receptor on the speakers versus using the regular +/- binding posts ?

Thanks !
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on September 22, 2009, 17:48
http://www.dynaudio.com/eng/systems/lines/accessories/ocos.php

look for the twin combi...

The OCOS receptor is designed for old dynaudio loudspeaker..new ones you dun need that just standard banana or spade lugs.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: hca2 on September 22, 2009, 18:48
waiting for dynaudio sale same as last year i missed that one
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: crombie on September 22, 2009, 19:01
Bro,

You sold your Jordan already? Now aiming for the Dynaudio liao? Which model you eyeing now? ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: hca2 on September 22, 2009, 19:38
Bro,

You sold your Jordan already? Now aiming for the Dynaudio liao? Which model you eyeing now? ;D

not yet, i dont have in mind at this time maybe those i can afford
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: nic_wei on November 12, 2009, 12:08
Need advice on Dynaudio Countour 1.1, Countour 1.3 and Focus 110. ::)
What is the different of sound? ???
Which one better? ???

Thanks.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on November 12, 2009, 12:25
Need advice on Dynaudio Countour 1.1, Countour 1.3 and Focus 110. ::)
What is the different of sound? ???
Which one better? ???

Thanks.

Overall between the 3 models..the Focus 110 got the best drivers but quite similar in size with the Contour 1.1. In terms of SQ the 110 is much refine on the highs, deeper bass also compare to 1.1 but Contour 1.3 has a bigger soundstage and deeper bass freq but highs is a little edgy compare to 110 tweeters. Oh...1.3 is slightly harder to drive compare to the other 2 models.

Hope this help!  :D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: venturer on November 12, 2009, 12:38
I like the Bird's Eye version of Contour 1.1
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: venturer on November 12, 2009, 12:53
saw picture of Special 35.... is this a real thing or edited from special 25, never seem to see this in the Dynaudio official wedsite.

(http://pic.pimg.tw/dynaudi0/4923b4c42f3f9.jpg)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: seanyzf on November 12, 2009, 12:55
Oh...1.3 is slightly harder to drive compare to the other 2 models.
Hope this help!  :D

hmmm, what should be the min power to drive dynaudio new range of bookshelves such as focus and contour?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on November 12, 2009, 13:02
hmmm, what should be the min power to drive dynaudio new range of bookshelves such as focus and contour?

Best is 100 watts and above would be great :D but there are some brand only rated 50-80 watts but they can really drive difficult load speakers.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on November 12, 2009, 13:07
saw picture of Special 35.... is this a real thing or edited from special 25, never seem to see this in the Dynaudio official wedsite.

(http://pic.pimg.tw/dynaudi0/4923b4c42f3f9.jpg)

This is only special designed for the Taiwan region. Not available in elsewhere.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: nic_wei on November 12, 2009, 13:17
Overall between the 3 models..the Focus 110 got the best drivers but quite similar in size with the Contour 1.1. In terms of SQ the 110 is much refine on the highs, deeper bass also compare to 1.1 but Contour 1.3 has a bigger soundstage and deeper bass freq but highs is a little edgy compare to 110 tweeters. Oh...1.3 is slightly harder to drive compare to the other 2 models.

Hope this help!  :D

Thanks.  :)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: vp171s on November 12, 2009, 13:58
Overall between the 3 models..the Focus 110 got the best drivers but quite similar in size with the Contour 1.1. In terms of SQ the 110 is much refine on the highs, deeper bass also compare to 1.1 but Contour 1.3 has a bigger soundstage and deeper bass freq but highs is a little edgy compare to 110 tweeters. Oh...1.3 is slightly harder to drive compare to the other 2 models.

Hope this help!  :D

I appreciate your constructive inputs. Would the Contour 1.3Mk2 SE best the above 3 speakers ?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on November 12, 2009, 14:35
I appreciate your constructive inputs. Would the Contour 1.3Mk2 SE best the above 3 speakers ?

Firstly it don't get yourself confuse. Previously there Contour 1.3, 1.3mk2 & 1.3SE.

Yes, the Contour 1.3SE is above the 3 models that i mentioned in the other posts. It ultilises it's own drivers units of much better quality. The internal cabinet comes with a double sandwhich bracing at the side wall.

One of the best sounding bookshelf available at that time with high demand till now. Hmmm also even harder to drive compare the other 3 models  :( :(
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: seanyzf on November 12, 2009, 14:48
So we all need very tokong amp drive dynaudio.  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: vp171s on November 12, 2009, 15:45
Firstly it don't get yourself confuse. Previously there Contour 1.3, 1.3mk2 & 1.3SE.

Yes, the Contour 1.3SE is above the 3 models that i mentioned in the other posts. It ultilises it's own drivers units of much better quality. The internal cabinet comes with a double sandwhich bracing at the side wall.

One of the best sounding bookshelf available at that time with high demand till now. Hmmm also even harder to drive compare the other 3 models  :( :(

Can know the current price for the Focus 110?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on November 12, 2009, 17:08
Can know the current price for the Focus 110?

Focus 110 $2235.00 per pair.

Just to let all Dynaudio fans, by Jan 2010 all their prices will increase..by how many percent increase I don't know yet :'( :'(
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on November 12, 2009, 17:22
thats bad news!  :o
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Audio on November 12, 2009, 17:38
thats bad news!  :o

Why bad news?  You want to buy Consequence ah?

(Audio)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: yihyan on November 12, 2009, 18:01
Focus 110 $2235.00 per pair.

Just to let all Dynaudio fans, by Jan 2010 all their prices will increase..by how many percent increase I don't know yet :'( :'(
watz the reason for the increase?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on November 12, 2009, 18:09
According to Dynaudio denmark, raw material, euros dollars etc...went up recently so need to increase the prices. Haiz...we also bopian got to follow :( :( Anyway, we'll try our best to increase at a minium...but end d end sure got discount lah.. ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: seanyzf on November 12, 2009, 18:16
Ya, still thinking of upgrade to S1.4. oh man.. i guess should be at least 10% increase
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: venturer on November 12, 2009, 18:38
Did Dynaudio soak the birdseye veneer in a blue dye

(http://www.hi-av.net/uploads/article/image/091110_dynaudio_sapphire_gloss_blue.jpg)
(http://www.phileweb.com/news/photo/200911/BS-2_big.jpg)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on November 12, 2009, 18:54

Did Dynaudio soak the birdseye veneer in a blue dye


Interested to get a pair? ;D ;D only 30 pairs available for the world of which almost SOLD out liao. :o
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: landis on November 12, 2009, 22:51
they are absolutely gorgeous :)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on November 12, 2009, 23:34
Focus 110 $2235.00 per pair.

Just to let all Dynaudio fans, by Jan 2010 all their prices will increase..by how many percent increase I don't know yet :'( :'(

Then I think I have make up my mind fast.

C1 or C2?....C1 or C2?....C1 or C2?....
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: francis woo on November 13, 2009, 08:25
Then I think I have make up my mind fast.

C1 or C2?....C1 or C2?....C1 or C2?....

Sapphire or Consequence!!........ ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on November 13, 2009, 08:46
Sapphire or Consequence!!........ ;D

Hmmmm...if cost is not an object maybe clitang can consider Sapphire :D well is a collector's item now :D

Errrrrh...Consequence UE can only admire & dream on nia...not everyone can accompanied this size speaker and this $98k. :o
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: rahul on November 13, 2009, 10:53
This means anyone planning to buy Dynaudio should pull the trigger fast before Jan. ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Quest on November 13, 2009, 11:30
Then I think I have make up my mind fast.

C1 or C2?....C1 or C2?....C1 or C2?....
There is a used C1 in sales thread.. :P
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on November 13, 2009, 13:27
wah faster go go go.  :D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on November 13, 2009, 16:02
$6k with stand for C1 is a damm good buy :D

So those of you who are keen and got this budget please do not hesitate to go for it.

Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: rahul on November 13, 2009, 20:02
There is a Plinius CD101 + 9200 combo selling now for 5K !!
http://www.echoloft.com/cgi-bin/buysell2/YaBB.pl?board=hifi&action=display&num=1258098089

Earlier version of 9200 without balanced inputs. Perhaps Nick can tell us any other difference between current and older version.

Price very good indeed.

Someone can buy C1 plus this combo and enter audio heaven pretty fast  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on November 13, 2009, 20:58
There is a Plinius CD101 + 9200 combo selling now for 5K !!
http://www.echoloft.com/cgi-bin/buysell2/YaBB.pl?board=hifi&action=display&num=1258098089

Earlier version of 9200 without balanced inputs. Perhaps Nick can tell us any other difference between current and older version.

Price very good indeed.

Someone can buy C1 plus this combo and enter audio heaven pretty fast  ;D

New & old both have the same power of 2x200watts. Except new version comes with XLR input and WBT speaker terminal. Then there's some internal component upgrade as well.
As for the CD101, not much of changes.
So those interested can grab it from our bro jonlee :D

Ya, it's a great combo with the C1 8)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: rahul on November 19, 2009, 16:41
How is this for a Dynaudio bedroom setup  ;D

http://pal1982.smugmug.com/photos/swfpopup.mg?AlbumID=10193443&AlbumKey=STxD3
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on November 19, 2009, 16:50
How is this for a Dynaudio bedroom setup  ;D

http://pal1982.smugmug.com/photos/swfpopup.mg?AlbumID=10193443&AlbumKey=STxD3

I see the lovely finish on the speakers being clamped by the metal bracket on the wall.. damn painful.

Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: IwishIwasToneDeaf on November 19, 2009, 17:57
How is this for a Dynaudio bedroom setup  ;D

http://pal1982.smugmug.com/photos/swfpopup.mg?AlbumID=10193443&AlbumKey=STxD3

Wow! The owner uses "those" for rears!?

The sea view is lovely too.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: seanyzf on November 19, 2009, 20:20
his living room is double up as master bed rm...
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on November 19, 2009, 23:34
I think it is a studio apartment.

I am happy just to have the rear speakers. Seldom I see anyone use C1 for the rear. What a waste....
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on November 20, 2009, 00:49
May also sound damn boomy against the corners?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on November 20, 2009, 08:09
I had a customer who uses the Confidence C4 as rear :P :P front is the Evidence Master :P Unfortunately too busy to settling up his Evidence Master, forgot to take a picture of his setup :( :(

Actually there's a lot of super duper hiend dynaudio customer using topend speaker as HT, unfortunately these group of ppl are too busy making $$$$$$$$$ seldom on the forum  ::)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on November 20, 2009, 08:26
seldom on the forum nevermind... i hope not too busy till no time to really sit down and appreciate those fine sound coming from those awesome speakers. be it HT or Stereo.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: seanyzf on November 20, 2009, 09:01
I had a customer who uses the Confidence C4 as rear :P :P front is the Evidence Master :P Unfortunately too busy to settling up his Evidence Master, forgot to take a picture of his setup :( :(

Actually there's a lot of super duper hiend dynaudio customer using topend speaker as HT, unfortunately these group of ppl are too busy making $$$$$$$$$ seldom on the forum  ::)

Their hall must be the size of a hdb flat...
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on November 20, 2009, 15:27
I had a customer who uses the Confidence C4 as rear :P :P front is the Evidence Master :P Unfortunately too busy to settling up his Evidence Master, forgot to take a picture of his setup :( :(

Actually there's a lot of super duper hiend dynaudio customer using topend speaker as HT, unfortunately these group of ppl are too busy making $$$$$$$$$ seldom on the forum  ::)

Totally agreed. That's why I am always on the forum.......... :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: seanyzf on November 20, 2009, 15:38
you r too modest.. u r going to join the legion of hi end dynaudio customer too.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on November 20, 2009, 17:26
FYI

Something to admire about

(http://pic5.audiogon.com/i/c/f/1256662330.jpg)

(http://pic5.audiogon.com/i/c/f/1256662331.jpg)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: seanyzf on November 20, 2009, 17:31
winnie the pooh.. hahaha
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: hca2 on November 20, 2009, 17:33
lets wait for the DYNs sale this year
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on November 20, 2009, 17:39
wah simply amazing!!! floorstanders for surrrounds... and the top of the line C3 or iszit C4?  :o
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on November 20, 2009, 18:08
That's the Evidence Temptations, Confidence Centre and 4 x Audience 82 :o

Next month, I will show you 1 house with more tokkong setup ;D so stay tune ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on November 20, 2009, 20:38
Wah bro. These setup makes ours looks so medicore.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: francis woo on November 20, 2009, 20:58
That's the Evidence Temptations, Confidence Centre and 4 x Audience 82 :o

Next month, I will show you 1 house with more tokkong setup ;D so stay tune ;D

Eh Bro, don't show just bring us there........ ;D ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on December 28, 2009, 14:39
Seems that those Dynaudio fans and bros here is not very active in this thread. Can I suggest those Dynaudio owner to start to post and share their setup here if they don't mind?

Let me start first. I have just changed my speaker to Dynaudio, a totally newbie. Still learning from all the seniors.

My simple setup
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/clitang/P1030306.jpg)

My new speakers
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/clitang/P1030309.jpg)

Another view
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/clitang/P1030310.jpg)

I love the Black Piano Lacquer Finishes - Very Classy
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/clitang/P1030312.jpg)

Change to Siltech cables. Learn from the seniors that Siltech match well with Dynaudio speaker and Plinius pre/power. It sound GOOOOOD. Able to bring the setup to another level....IMO
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/clitang/P1030429.jpg)

Siltech speaker cable
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/clitang/P1030426.jpg)

My simple setup :

Dynaudio C1 Speaker
Dynaudio Contour center speaker
Dynaudio BM 5 surround speaker
Plinius 102 power amp
Plinius M8 Pre amp
Marantz SA-14 Ver 2 CD/SACD player
Siltech G7 330l speaker cable
Siltech G7 330i interconnect
Siltech G7 220i interconnect
Siltech G5 SQ28 interconnect
Shunyata Black Mumba power cord
PS audio statment power cord
Kimber Kable Hero XLR interconnect
Audioquest HDMI cable
PS Audio power plant 600
Intergra DTC 9.8 AV processor
Pop Corn Hour C200
PS3
Denon 2500BTCi Blu Ray transport
Anthem MCA5 - 5 channel power amp
Sanyo Z2000 projector
Kikuchi Projector Screen
SVS PC-12 sub.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: vp171s on December 28, 2009, 15:54
For a "totally newbie", it appears you are starting off with all guns blazing & no prisoners taken !  ;D ;D


Let me start first. I have just changed my speaker to Dynaudio, a totally newbie. Still learning from all the seniors.

My simple setup :

Dynaudio C1 Speaker
Dynaudio Contour center speaker
Dynaudio BM 5 surround speaker
Plinius 102 power amp
Plinius M8 Pre amp

Marantz SA-14 Ver 2 CD/SACD player
Siltech G7 330l speaker cable
Siltech G7 330i interconnect
Siltech G7 220i interconnect
Siltech G5 SQ28 interconnect
Shunyata Black Mumba power cord

PS audio statment power cord
Kimber Kable Hero XLR interconnect
Audioquest HDMI cable
PS Audio power plant 600
Intergra DTC 9.8 AV processor
Pop Corn Hour C200
PS3
Denon 2500BTCi Blu Ray transport
Anthem MCA5 - 5 channel power amp
Sanyo Z2000 projector
Kikuchi Projector Screen
SVS PC-12 sub.

Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on December 28, 2009, 16:47
Wow!  :o :o bro clitang you got the tokkong piano black laquer ah? sibei chio leh! Do you mind let me know how much you paid for it? Can PM if not convenient to review it.

Alamak, my saliva now drooling liao ;D ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on December 28, 2009, 17:30
For a "totally newbie", it appears you are starting off with all guns blazing & no prisoners taken !  ;D ;D


Hi Bro, don't mean anything. I am totally newbie to Dynaudio. My first pair of speaker was Thiel speakers and gone through a few round of upgrade and only change to Dynaudio recently. Thus, still try to learn from all those senors here.

Thank you
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: francis woo on December 28, 2009, 17:33
Wow!  :o :o bro clitang you got the tokkong piano black laquer ah? sibei chio leh! Do you mind let me know how much you paid for it? Can PM if not convenient to review it.

Alamak, my saliva now drooling liao ;D ;D

I thought you sold them to him!!!!............ ???
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on December 28, 2009, 17:38
I thought you sold them to him!!!!............ ???

 ??? ??? My C1 is rosewood leh.. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: francis woo on December 28, 2009, 17:40
??? ??? My C1 is rosewood leh.. ;D ;D

Sorry my bad........... :P
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on December 28, 2009, 17:46
Sorry my bad........... :P

How can I sell my C1 took me many many years to save up to own it. If sell away really sayang leh :'( :'( and many dyns hunters here will jump for it  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on December 28, 2009, 17:58
How can I sell my C1 took me many many years to save up to own it. If sell away really sayang leh :'( :'( and many dyns hunters here will jump for it  ;D

Agreed, I saw an ad sometime back that there was a pair of C1 for sale. The ad was posted about 10am, I replied at 10.40am. The answer I received was sold. So I guess there are still some good re-sale value for Dynaudio speakers. Just like Thiel speakers, there are still many bros here looking for it.

No regret that I have owned both the Thiel and Dynaudio speakers
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: jonlee on December 28, 2009, 18:14
Agreed, I saw an ad sometime back that there was a pair of C1 for sale. The ad was posted about 10am, I replied at 10.40am. The answer I received was sold. So I guess there are still some good re-sale value for Dynaudio speakers. Just like Thiel speakers, there are still many bros here looking for it.

No regret that I have owned both the Thiel and Dynaudio speakers

The one with stands for $6k?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on December 28, 2009, 19:18
Yes, to my knowledge this is the only one pair of C1 on sale so far here when I started surfing this forum. However, I might be wrong.

I am still wondering how many C1 owner are there in Singapore as compare to other brand, like Thiel CS 2.4
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on December 29, 2009, 00:23
wah bro clitang, C1 woah... i was only thinking Excite series... didnt know you got full dynas liao.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: seanyzf on December 29, 2009, 00:29
Hi Bro, don't mean anything. I am totally newbie to Dynaudio. My first pair of speaker was Thiel speakers and gone through a few round of upgrade and only change to Dynaudio recently. Thus, still try to learn from all those senors here.

Thank you

wah your 1st pair chiong Thiel liao ar bro? Does C1 worth the price as compare to S3.4 or rather its more to room matching?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on December 29, 2009, 11:53

My simple setup
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/clitang/P1030306.jpg)

My new speakers
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/clitang/P1030309.jpg)

Another view
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/clitang/P1030310.jpg)

I love the Black Piano Lacquer Finishes - Very Classy
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/clitang/P1030312.jpg)

Extremely nice setup you have there :D Guess you're really enjoying the setup. Totally different characteristics from your Thiels..
 :D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on December 29, 2009, 12:03
wah your 1st pair chiong Thiel liao ar bro? Does C1 worth the price as compare to S3.4 or rather its more to room matching?

Although some may thinks the floorstands will have a better value against the bookshelf but this C1 really sound like a mid size floorstand, I would rate the performance is better than S3.4 in all aspect except it only loose out a little in the extreme low bass extension. But again the C1 suit most of our local housing here. ;)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on December 29, 2009, 14:14
Extremely nice setup you have there :D Guess you're really enjoying the setup. Totally different characteristics from your Thiels..
 :D

Thank you for your comment and your help to make this changes possible.

I really enjoy every seconds with the C1. It really match well with the Plinius and Siltech cable. Maybe the weakest link now is the CD player. Hope I can do something to it.

The end result is "Wow" I just hate myself that I did not earn enough and make the changes earlier.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on December 29, 2009, 14:27
Although some may thinks the floorstands will have a better value against the bookshelf but this C1 really sound like a mid size floorstand, I would rate the performance is better than S3.4 in all aspect except it only loose out a little in the extreme low bass extension. But again the C1 suit most of our local housing here. ;)

Hi seanyzf

I guess Nick has already answered your question, I guess he is the best person to comment. However, for me, my suggestion is that go for C1 if possible. It beats the S3.4 hands down. In some review and feedback in some forum, C1 is one of the best monitor speakers, not many monitor speakers can match or better.

For me, I would go for the speakers first, choose the one you LOVE.  Not to compromise due to whatever reason as you have to face it everyday. Then look for a matching amp and source and then the cables. This is my experience, you may or may not agreed.

Thank you
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: vp171s on December 29, 2009, 15:36
Hi seanyzf

I guess Nick has already answered your question, I guess he is the best person to comment. However, for me, my suggestion is that go for C1 if possible. It beats the S3.4 hands down. In some review and feedback in some forum, C1 is one of the best monitor speakers, not many monitor speakers can match or better.

For me, I would go for the speakers first, choose the one you LOVE.  Not to compromise due to whatever reason as you have to face it everyday. Then look for a matching amp and source and then the cables. This is my experience, you may or may not agreed.

Thank you

In the photos, can see you use the acoustics foams to tweak - can share how u decide where to position the foams ?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on December 29, 2009, 16:55
In the photos, can see you use the acoustics foams to tweak - can share how u decide where to position the foams ?

I guess there are a lot of write up about room treatment on the web and in this forum.

For me, I just placed the foams on those area recommended mostly by the web. Which is the side and back of the speakers. Will be better to have some corner, ceilling and back wall treatment.

My room treatment is way below expection. I have requested some expert on the forum to help....Let see how it goes.. To me, room treatment is a very important factor of listening music in a room. I have seen/listen to some sysytem setup with and without room treatment, the different is huge.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on December 29, 2009, 23:55
Like what Francis said, you dun need floorstanders for small room. And you did it with C1. Thumbs up bro.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on December 31, 2009, 13:12
Hi Bro

Just wonder where is all the Dynaudio fans? Seems no one interested to post or share their setup here. SAD.

May I know anyone has any experince on Dynaudio 30th Anniversary Sapphire? How is it sound compare to C4 or the Temptation? What is the cost?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: seanyzf on December 31, 2009, 13:39
I one of the Dynaudio fans out there but doesn't own any big guns ;D, just like you this is my 1st pair and its a Audience 52SE and also still looking for a cdp! paiseh to post the pic up, maybe after I get my cdp. :)   
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on December 31, 2009, 17:54
I only know bro stealth with full dyna setup. The rest mainly stereo setup. Not many active forumers here. Same with those in B&W, Quiet....
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on December 31, 2009, 19:33
I only know bro stealth with full dyna setup. The rest mainly stereo setup. Not many active forumers here. Same with those in B&W, Quiet....

Did I heard someone mentioned me? ;D ;D

Ya lots of owners who owned Dyns or B&W didn't realy participate in these hifi forum. Sad :(

Guess more than a few of us here do owned Dyns in stereo setup, they have been reading our thread but sibei quiet to post or share. Low profile ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: domj on December 31, 2009, 20:25
Dynaudio owner checking in  ;D. Used to have the 1.3SE with Plinius amps till recently...Still think they are great speakers with bass that belies their size.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on December 31, 2009, 21:46
Did I heard someone mentioned me? ;D ;D

Ya lots of owners who owned Dyns or B&W didn't realy participate in these hifi forum. Sad :(

Guess more than a few of us here do owned Dyns in stereo setup, they have been reading our thread but sibei quiet to post or share. Low profile ;D

haha, yup maybe you can start the ball rolling by telling us about your HT setup. hows your dyna with the XPA-3? at 1 point i did wanna order the XPA-3 for my thiels too. but i am still abit concerned about driving dyna 4ohm spks direct with my Denon AVR. (even when Nicholas told me can...  :P) the Denons are only 6ohms to 16ohms recommended. 4ohms might run hot and shut down(this the manual did stated). Should extra power amps be needed?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on December 31, 2009, 21:48
Dynaudio owner checking in  ;D. Used to have the 1.3SE with Plinius amps till recently...Still think they are great speakers with bass that belies their size.

haha yeah. saw you have 1007Be and partial dynas so hows you setting up now? HT? Stereo?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on December 31, 2009, 23:29
haha, yup maybe you can start the ball rolling by telling us about your HT setup. hows your dyna with the XPA-3? at 1 point i did wanna order the XPA-3 for my thiels too. but i am still abit concerned about driving dyna 4ohm spks direct with my Denon AVR. (even when Nicholas told me can...  :P) the Denons are only 6ohms to 16ohms recommended. 4ohms might run hot and shut down(this the manual did stated). Should extra power amps be needed?

Infact, I started by using the Pioneer AX4i to drive the Focus 110, 200c & 42sat. Indeed the receiver can drive them well without any stress on the amp. It can realy handle the 85dB/4ohms well and I set the receiver to run at 8 ohms instead of 6 giving it a little increased in power in 4 ohms load. Lots of my friends were very surprised that I'm using it with just a receiver. For the past 1 year, the amp didn't even clip even when I drive it at -13dB volume which is already very loud in my place :P

The Focus really filled my place without any fatigue either on HT or Stereo  :D :D Deep tight low rumbling bass from the SUB300 but it didn't sound like SVS :P which to me it's like it going to bring down the house :P :P Sorry I'm not familiar with SVS.

Lastly, heard from lots of our bros here that the Emotiva power amp are good value and can perform well. I didn't manage to audition it although some of our bros here already owned it, I took the courage and ordered a XPA3 for a try :P Well, indeed the power amp is good value for the money, smooth with fin detail without any edgyness at all. For sure it sound much better than using the receiver itself. Better bass grip, more focus midrange and the highs extensions is also not compromise. So bro out there, if your're still having doubts on whether to purchase the Emotiva amps or processor, I would say "Mai Tu Liao" ;D ;D

Hope I'm not so long winded, hope this helps with your faster decisions on the Excite. ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: jonlee on January 01, 2010, 12:18
I believe any power amp will be better than most receivers. 
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: vp171s on January 01, 2010, 12:29
Hi Bro

Just wonder where is all the Dynaudio fans? Seems no one interested to post or share their setup here. SAD.


Me using Exposure 2010 CDP > Exposure Super XX integrated amp > Dynaudio Contour 1.1 with Ocos cables.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: domj on January 01, 2010, 14:24
haha yeah. saw you have 1007Be and partial dynas so hows you setting up now? HT? Stereo?

Now only left with Dyns for the HT LCR. My hall side and rear walls are too far away from my sofa to use the Dyns for surrounds so bo bian gotta find substitutes in the form of the Mirage sats on the ceiling :(. The Focals are for my stereo in a separate setup ;)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: domj on January 01, 2010, 14:28
Infact, I started by using the Pioneer AX4i to drive the Focus 110, 200c & 42sat. Indeed the receiver can drive them well without any stress on the amp. It can realy handle the 85dB/4ohms well and I set the receiver to run at 8 ohms instead of 6 giving it a little increased in power in 4 ohms load. Lots of my friends were very surprised that I'm using it with just a receiver. For the past 1 year, the amp didn't even clip even when I drive it at -13dB volume which is already very loud in my place :P

The Focus really filled my place without any fatigue either on HT or Stereo  :D :D Deep tight low rumbling bass from the SUB300 but it didn't sound like SVS :P which to me it's like it going to bring down the house :P :P Sorry I'm not familiar with SVS.

Lastly, heard from lots of our bros here that the Emotiva power amp are good value and can perform well. I didn't manage to audition it although some of our bros here already owned it, I took the courage and ordered a XPA3 for a try :P Well, indeed the power amp is good value for the money, smooth with fin detail without any edgyness at all. For sure it sound much better than using the receiver itself. Better bass grip, more focus midrange and the highs extensions is also not compromise. So bro out there, if your're still having doubts on whether to purchase the Emotiva amps or processor, I would say "Mai Tu Liao" ;D ;D

Hope I'm not so long winded, hope this helps with your faster decisions on the Excite. ;D

I've heard the Dyns driven by a Pioneer rx at the Dyn showroom and it has no prob driving them. I feel the current range of Dyns like the Focus and Excite are quite easy to drive compared to the older series, but of cos feeding them a poweramp will always give them a kick up the backside and improve the sound. ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on January 01, 2010, 17:15
Fully agreed with you domj :D

If the new Dyns are so hard to drive. I think they can packup and close the factory. So hard to drive who wants to buy them? ???
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: fx on January 05, 2010, 11:55
Dynaudio owner checking in!
Sorry, photo a bit blur.
My simple setup:-

The Trio
(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll176/edwinteo/Picture384.jpg)


Source & Power
(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll176/edwinteo/Picture436.jpg)


Home theatre
(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll176/edwinteo/Picture397.jpg)


Stereo (Plasma tv hidden & floorstander speaker removed)
(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll176/edwinteo/Picture419.jpg)


One & only sweetspot
(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll176/edwinteo/Picture398.jpg)

Stereo:-
Marantz 67se full diva modded
M7 tube preamp with 3x telefunken tubes
Korsun V8i power amp
Speaker- Dynaudio 1.3SE with Target R6 stand
Supertweeter- Fostex GS90A
Interconnect- Slinkylink & Mogami 2803
Speaker cable- Acoustic Zen Hologram II
Power cable- All 4 using Acrolink 4030 with P/C004
Oyaide MTB-6 Power strip


Home theatre:-
Bluray player- Pioneer bdp320 & Sony S550
Amp- Yamaha DSP-A1
TV- Pioneer 508XG/S
Speaker- front Ruark Prolouge, centre Ruark Dialouge 2, front sur ALR Jordan entry s, back sur Def Tech Bp2X bipolar
Subwoofer- SVS PB10



Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on January 05, 2010, 13:27
Fully agreed with you domj :D

If the new Dyns are so hard to drive. I think they can packup and close the factory. So hard to drive who wants to buy them? ???

well, i didnt mean they were hard to drive. just so the AVR specs doesnt list 4ohm impedance capable. recommend 6 to 8ohms only. :-X
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on January 06, 2010, 00:32
Dynaudio owner checking in!
Sorry, photo a bit blur.
My simple setup:-

The Trio
(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll176/edwinteo/Picture384.jpg)


Source & Power
(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll176/edwinteo/Picture436.jpg)


Home theatre
(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll176/edwinteo/Picture397.jpg)


Stereo (Plasma tv hidden & floorstander speaker removed)
(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll176/edwinteo/Picture419.jpg)


One & only sweetspot
(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll176/edwinteo/Picture398.jpg)

Stereo:-
Marantz 67se full diva modded
M7 tube preamp with 3x telefunken tubes
Korsun V8i power amp
Speaker- Dynaudio 1.3SE with Target R6 stand
Supertweeter- Fostex GS90A
Interconnect- Slinkylink & Mogami 2803
Speaker cable- Acoustic Zen Hologram II
Power cable- All 4 using Acrolink 4030 with P/C004
Oyaide MTB-6 Power strip


Home theatre:-
Bluray player- Pioneer bdp320 & Sony S550
Amp- Yamaha DSP-A1
TV- Pioneer 508XG/S
Speaker- front Ruark Prolouge, centre Ruark Dialouge 2, front sur ALR Jordan entry s, back sur Def Tech Bp2X bipolar
Subwoofer- SVS PB10





Nice setup, I can see your room has done proper treatment. Do you use any equipment to measure the Freq. Response?

Thank you for signing one. We need more Dynaudio fans to be active here and share.

Thank you
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: kuryakin on January 06, 2010, 19:02
My room size looks the same.
Do describe what room treatment you have done please!
BTW, where is your sub placed?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: fx on January 06, 2010, 22:29
Quote
Do you use any equipment to measure the Freq. Response?
clitang, no, i didn't. Just based on my own listening test. Room treatment played a major role in setting up stereo & ht.

Quote
Do describe what room treatment you have done please!
BTW, where is your sub placed?
kuryakin, I've posted my whole room image except the ceiling is bare. ::)

Left from my sitting position
(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll176/edwinteo/Picture451.jpg)

Right with subwoofer from my sitting position. Thinking of adding another svs sub to place on the left.
(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll176/edwinteo/Picture453.jpg)

Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: shsoh on January 07, 2010, 09:06
I own a Thiel 2.4 but I would love to listen to a pair of C1. Any chance....?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on January 07, 2010, 09:39
clitang, no, i didn't. Just based on my own listening test. Room treatment played a major role in setting up stereo & ht.

Totally agreed. I am having some treatment issue with my room. Still finding the best way to solve it.

May I ask where did you purchase those bass trap? Price? Can PM or post here if you don't mind.

Thank you
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on January 07, 2010, 09:55
I own a Thiel 2.4 but I would love to listen to a pair of C1. Any chance....?

Sure you want to do it?

Just to share my experience, when I am in HK some months back. My friend invited me to his house to listen to his new system. The setup is C1, Jeff Rowland 500 Int Amp, Esoteric SA-50 CD/SACD player and connected with Siltech cables. Due to curiosity and itchy backside, I went to his house. After that I came out with tears rolling from my eyes. From that day onwards, I can't sleep well, thinking how to safe up and change my hifi gear.......

FYI, I used to own CS2.4 also.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on January 07, 2010, 10:13
wah bro clitang, your comments making everyone more curious... at the same time very scared...
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: game_goondu on January 07, 2010, 10:22
u guys "simple" setup will put my bare and super basic setup of dynaudio audience series to shame... driven by a denon receiver...
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on January 07, 2010, 10:33
Totally agreed. I am having some treatment issue with my room. Still finding the best way to solve it.

May I ask where did you purchase those bass trap? Price? Can PM or post here if you don't mind.

Thank you

Those corner bass trap are from Echobuster. Sometimes you can get it in Buy/Sell, there's a pair not long ago in Echoloft Buy/Sell going for $550.

I'm using 1 piece for my extreme left corner, it helps to tamed the bass :D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on January 07, 2010, 10:35
u guys "simple" setup will put my bare and super basic setup of dynaudio audience series to shame... driven by a denon receiver...

ah you drive your audience direct using the Denon AVR? no heating problems?
haha no shame lah, slowly upgrade. maybe you can consider getting power amps to improve your speakers dynamics.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: sagibit on January 07, 2010, 10:36
Sure you want to do it?

Just to share my experience, when I am in HK some months back. My friend invited me to his house to listen to his new system. The setup is C1, Jeff Rowland 500 Int Amp, Esoteric SA-50 CD/SACD player and connected with Siltech cables. Due to curiosity and itchy backside, I went to his house. After that I came out with tears rolling from my eyes. From that day onwards, I can't sleep well, thinking how to safe up and change my hifi gear.......

FYI, I used to own CS2.4 also.

Just curious, why dont you try to follow your fren's setup or his advise on how to best match the C1 in this case? or you want to better than your fren setup?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on January 07, 2010, 10:43
ah you drive your audience direct using the Denon AVR? no heating problems?
haha no shame lah, slowly upgrade. maybe you can consider getting power amps to improve your speakers dynamics.

Some of our bros here are using the Denon 4308/10 to drive the Focus 220mkII etc..so far no complains from them about over heating problems.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: domj on January 07, 2010, 11:27
Just curious, why dont you try to follow your fren's setup or his advise on how to best match the C1 in this case? or you want to better than your fren setup?

Think he mentioned earlier he is already bueying the Jeff Rowlands.  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on January 07, 2010, 12:58
Just curious, why dont you try to follow your fren's setup or his advise on how to best match the C1 in this case? or you want to better than your fren setup?

Yes, I am trying to make some changes to my system. I have already change to C1 and Siltech cable, still thinking what to change for my CDP and the amp. JF Contnuum 500 and Esoteric SA-50 are in the "wish list".

To me, those equipment that my friend has are not cheap. Take me a long time to safe up to make the changes..... haha
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on January 07, 2010, 13:01
Those corner bass trap are from Echobuster. Sometimes you can get it in Buy/Sell, there's a pair not long ago in Echoloft Buy/Sell going for $550.

I'm using 1 piece for my extreme left corner, it helps to tamed the bass :D

Yes, Thank you for your information.

I have contacted the seller sometime back, it was sold within a short period of time after he post....You know, good thing always goes of very fast.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: shsoh on January 07, 2010, 13:56
Sure you want to do it?

Just to share my experience, when I am in HK some months back. My friend invited me to his house to listen to his new system. The setup is C1, Jeff Rowland 500 Int Amp, Esoteric SA-50 CD/SACD player and connected with Siltech cables. Due to curiosity and itchy backside, I went to his house. After that I came out with tears rolling from my eyes. From that day onwards, I can't sleep well, thinking how to safe up and change my hifi gear.......

FYI, I used to own CS2.4 also.

Yes of course. Will PM you.

I have thought that the Kharma 3.2 will be the end of the speakers jouney but let's see...
I'm now using the Ayre K1/V1-xe to drive the Thiel so the C1 should be an easy load.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: rahul on January 07, 2010, 14:33
My own Dynaudio setup is still under contruction.

Here is a pic of a friend's setup.
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2624/4106728695_1464de1fbe_o.jpg)

Focus 220MKII front and center.
Audience ? rear.

Denon 4810 + Plinius 9200 (HT Bypass)
Oppo BD83
SVS PB13Ultra
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on January 07, 2010, 14:59
My own Dynaudio setup is still under contruction.

Here is a pic of a friend's setup.
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2624/4106728695_1464de1fbe_o.jpg)

Focus 220MKII front and center.
Audience ? rear.

Denon 4810 + Plinius 9200 (HT Bypass)
Oppo BD83
SVS PB13Ultra
Where did the Plinius 9200 & the giant SVS sub went to? ???
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on January 07, 2010, 16:13
Yes of course. Will PM you.

I have thought that the Kharma 3.2 will be the end of the speakers jouney but let's see...
I'm now using the Ayre K1/V1-xe to drive the Thiel so the C1 should be an easy load.

Yes.  TO ME C1 may not be the speaker of the life time. C1 to me is that something that I am achivable and it touches me.

It would not be your cup of tea. I have know someone that do not have the same liking as me.

I am still experiemnting some room treatment as it has some bassy issue for a long time. Will let you know.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on January 07, 2010, 17:02
Where did the Plinius 9200 & the giant SVS sub went to? ???

yeah. you beat me to it. was abt to ask too. did he also hide the center spk inside the cabinet?  ???
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on January 07, 2010, 17:23
yeah. you beat me to it. was abt to ask too. did he also hide the center spk inside the cabinet?  ???

Ya his centre channel was inside the cabinet when he's using for HT the console panel can flip up..
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: rahul on January 07, 2010, 17:26
sorry old pic.
Will try to get an updated one with all the missing stuff :)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: game_goondu on January 07, 2010, 18:00
ah you drive your audience direct using the Denon AVR? no heating problems?
haha no shame lah, slowly upgrade. maybe you can consider getting power amps to improve your speakers dynamics.

no heating problem... volume turn up to 10 also ok...
if i use more power hungry amp, i should get better sound...

but i'm not into the upgrade bug as i simply do not have the moolah...
most probably > 90% of the ppl here will have their amp that is newer than my denon...
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on January 07, 2010, 20:56
understood.  ;)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: fx on January 07, 2010, 21:58
May I ask where did you purchase those bass trap? Price? Can PM or post here if you don't mind.
Thank you
I bought a used pair for $550 in echoloft. Local dealer selling at around $950.

I am still experiemnting some room treatment as it has some bassy issue for a long time. Will let you know.
Happened to me too before I got my bass busters. Now i can tune the volume higher without fear. :)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dane on January 07, 2010, 22:17
here is a picture of my humble setup - Focus 140's on Stand 4, 200c - 4 x 42sat as surround and surround back (can't be seen in the photo)

http://picasaweb.google.com/allandam/20100107#5424000512813794434
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: sagibit on January 07, 2010, 22:26
no heating problem... volume turn up to 10 also ok...
if i use more power hungry amp, i should get better sound...

but i'm not into the upgrade bug as i simply do not have the moolah...
most probably > 90% of the ppl here will have their amp that is newer than my denon...

Then I might belong to the other 10%. My amp is pretty old. The amp maker already up lorry. Speakers older still. But what matters most is that you still enjoy and like your setup  ;) A simple system matched right can sound better than a hi end setup matched wrongly.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: domj on January 07, 2010, 22:29
here is a picture of my humble setup - Focus 140's on Stand 4, 200c - 4 x 42sat as surround and surround back (can't be seen in the photo)

http://picasaweb.google.com/allandam/20100107#5424000512813794434

Looks gd. Primare amps?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dane on January 07, 2010, 22:35
yes, Primare Pre30 and A31.2 for 2-channel, Denon AVR-4310 for surround
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on January 07, 2010, 23:07
here is a picture of my humble setup - Focus 140's on Stand 4, 200c - 4 x 42sat as surround and surround back (can't be seen in the photo)

http://picasaweb.google.com/allandam/20100107#5424000512813794434

Nice setup  :D Hope you're enjoying the speakers :D

By the way, is that Audiomagic hifi rack you're using?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dane on January 07, 2010, 23:43
yes, Audio Magic Production rack. I had it for 13 years i think.. Danish quality  ;)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on January 08, 2010, 08:26
yes, Audio Magic Production rack. I had it for 13 years i think.. Danish quality  ;)

 :o 13 years...very good rack with the finest workmanships. I used to sell them about 15 years ago but unfortunately no distributor here now but they still exist :D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on January 13, 2010, 08:36
Bro DJQ & buddy,

Hope you guys really enjoy yourselves last night at my place and hope you didn't kena summons for not putting extra coupons ;D ;D

I believed you guys have great experience on the Dyn's HT and pure stereo setup. Also thanks for letting me know about the little too soft for my HT rear. I'll try to recalibrate it. :D

Cheers!
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on January 13, 2010, 13:37
haha thanks no summons, phew...
but jialat liao lah. i cannot sleep last night you know. the C1 dynamic sounding keeps ringing in my mind... and the Focus HT center punch... hit me on the spot. your Dyn are totally on a different level.  :o
Me & my friend was all smiles and Grins as we left... no words can explain our enjoyment.  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on January 13, 2010, 13:45
haha thanks no summons, phew...
but jialat liao lah. i cannot sleep last night you know. the C1 dynamic sounding keeps ringing in my mind... and the Focus HT center punch... hit me on the spot. your Dyn are totally on a different level.  :o
Me & my friend was all smiles and Grins as we left... no words can explain our enjoyment.  ;D

Bro domj just ask me, say did I check whether my flooring is wet and slippery coz both of you are drooling all the way :P :P  ;D ;D ;
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on January 13, 2010, 13:47
haha thanks no summons, phew...
but jialat liao lah. i cannot sleep last night you know. the C1 dynamic sounding keeps ringing in my mind... and the Focus HT center punch... hit me on the spot. your Dyn are totally on a different level.  :o
Me & my friend was all smiles and Grins as we left... no words can explain our enjoyment.  ;D

Got tears rolling down or not.....? Hope you are not like me when I was in HK after visited my friend place.

I wish I can visit Stealth place to expenience his setup...
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: domj on January 13, 2010, 14:15
Wah..ppl cannot sleep, ppl cry...poisonous poisonous  ;)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on January 13, 2010, 14:57
Got tears rolling down or not.....? Hope you are not like me when I was in HK after visited my friend place.

I wish I can visit Stealth place to expenience his setup...

come to think of it... yeah tears did built up  :'( ... bro slealth dim down the lights... and played same song which i heard with the Focus110 was again a relm of difference. i think i kanna what you were hit. i really gotta settle down and think what i really want.  :'(
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on January 13, 2010, 17:24
come to think of it... yeah tears did built up  :'( ... bro slealth dim down the lights... and played same song which i heard with the Focus110 was again a relm of difference. i think i kanna what you were hit. i really gotta settle down and think what i really want.  :'(

Just like me, I am running out of words. In Cantonese (My English is "Limited Company"). Maybe someone can help to translate....Thank you

I am 中毒已深不能自拔
好後悔為什麼不早一點買 C1........
好似我呢d打工仔,想儲多的錢,千萬不要接觸HiFi,千萬不要上xtremeplace
恐怕又多兩位網兄身中劇毒了
大家都要俾心機搵錢.......

Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on January 13, 2010, 17:38
Just like me, I am running out of words. In Cantonese (My English is "Limited Company"). Maybe someone can help to translate....Thank you

I am 中毒已深不能自拔
好後悔為什麼不早一點買 C1........
好似我呢d打工仔,想儲多的錢,千萬不要接觸HiFi,千萬不要上xtremeplace
恐怕又多兩位網兄身中劇毒了
大家都要俾心機搵錢.......



Oh my goodness! haha. I clearly understand what you meant. i should not have gone to his place... siao liao lah. dun play liao... sell everything.  :P
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on January 13, 2010, 18:18
Oh my goodness! haha. I clearly understand what you meant. i should not have gone to his place... siao liao lah. dun play liao... sell everything.  :P

Hahahahaha...this is call walking into a dead trap :P
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: venturer on January 13, 2010, 19:19
wonder if Focus 140 or Contour 1.4 come near to 70 – 80% of the performance of C1?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: IwishIwasToneDeaf on January 13, 2010, 21:03
Bro DJQ & buddy,

Hope you guys really enjoy yourselves last night at my place and hope you didn't kena summons for not putting extra coupons ;D ;D

I believed you guys have great experience on the Dyn's HT and pure stereo setup. Also thanks for letting me know about the little too soft for my HT rear. I'll try to recalibrate it. :D

Cheers!

Wah got open house bo jio!!  :'(
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: venturer on January 13, 2010, 21:36
Just for fun, the top 10 ranking bookshelf ever produced by Dynaudio... I think... :D

1. Confidence 3
2. Confidence C1
3. Special One
4. Special Twenty-Five
5. Crafft
6. Contour S 1.4
7. Contour 1.3 SE
8. Focus 140
9. Focus 110
10. Contour 1.1

Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: sty on January 13, 2010, 22:03
wonder if Focus 140 or Contour 1.4 come near to 70 – 80% of the performance of C1?


Just curious, is there anyway we can measure something like "near to 70% - 80%" in performance of a speaker comparing with another speaker????

Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on January 13, 2010, 22:39
wonder if Focus 140 or Contour 1.4 come near to 70 – 80% of the performance of C1?


If the sound quality of the Focus 140 & Contour 1.4 comes close to C1, I wouldn't mind settle on contour 1.4 ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: venturer on January 13, 2010, 22:42
Just curious, is there anyway we can measure something like "near to 70% - 80%" in performance of a speaker comparing with another speaker????



i understand your question, but you see ... comparing with another speakers...  e.g Ferguson Hill Vs Dynaudio ... difficult because the speakers are build for people with totally different taste

but talking about the same brand, same philosophy and house sound... in term of Esotec Vs Esotar … trickle down technology from higher end model, the % in performance...why not
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on January 13, 2010, 22:45
Wah got open house bo jio!!  :'(

Where got open house? :P It's a private request from our bro DJQ whose backside abit itchy ;D ;D

If you want to come and throw yourself into dead trap, I'm galdly welcome you. :D

Just PM me loh...
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: sty on January 13, 2010, 22:57
i understand your question, but you see ... comparing with another speakers...  e.g Ferguson Hill Vs Dynaudio ... difficult because the speakers are build for people with totally different taste

but talking about the same brand, same philosophy and house sound... in term of Esotec Vs Esotar … trickle down technology from higher end model, the % in performance...why not

Ok, so it means that they should be from the same brand? In that case, I should work hard n save hard for higher end Dyns so that I can start the comparison.  :)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: ikanyubodoh on January 13, 2010, 22:59
how much is c1 ah, can marantz pm8003 drive it ?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on January 13, 2010, 23:01
wonder if Focus 140 or Contour 1.4 come near to 70 – 80% of the performance of C1?


i dun think so less than 60%. i remember the contours i heard, did not gave me any deep impression. Maybe matching or the setup didnt bring out its best. not sure if its the older contour model i have heard. Focus 140 and 110 have difference midbass driver sizes, so the 140 can go lower on the bass.
oh man why i talking about dyn when i dun have one.  :P
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on January 13, 2010, 23:05
i understand your question, but you see ... comparing with another speakers...  e.g Ferguson Hill Vs Dynaudio ... difficult because the speakers are build for people with totally different taste

but talking about the same brand, same philosophy and house sound... in term of Esotec Vs Esotar … trickle down technology from higher end model, the % in performance...why not

damn dun remind me... this Esotar hor... super duper silk soft dome tweeter! play until so nice, i didnt believe it man. argghhh my ears ringing...
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: xerox on January 13, 2010, 23:51
i dun think so less than 60%. i remember the contours i heard, did not gave me any deep impression. Maybe matching or the setup didnt bring out its best. not sure if its the older contour model i have heard. Focus 140 and 110 have difference midbass driver sizes, so the 140 can go lower on the bass.
oh man why i talking about dyn when i dun have one.  :P

I do agree with you , i had the intention to purchase the Contour 1.4 but end up getting 110 as i find the it not far off against the 1.4. On few track i actually find the 110 sound better then 1.4. I had a friend that brought his 805S over to pit against my 110 and was amazed how a small speaker sound like and was impressed.

The law of diminishing returns certainly apply for this 110. :)

BTW, Stealth any possibility if you can grant a newbie like me to listen to your C1?  :P
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on January 14, 2010, 00:16
I do agree with you , i had the intention to purchase the Contour 1.4 but end up getting 110 as i find the it not far off against the 1.4. On few track i actually find the 110 sound better then 1.4. I had a friend that brought his 805S over to pit against my 110 and was amazed how a small speaker sound like and was impressed.

The law of diminishing returns certainly apply for this 110. :)

BTW, Stealth any possibility if you can grant a newbie like me to listen to your C1?  :P

bro... my advise dun!  :) enjoy your 110. do whatever you can to make your 110 sounds its best and stay clear of C1...  :-X
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: seanyzf on January 14, 2010, 00:42
how much is c1 ah, can marantz pm8003 drive it ?

dun think anyone will wan to risk driving this 10k speaker with a sub 1k amp.. pop and your tweeter is gone..  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on January 14, 2010, 00:58
oops the cats out of the bag.  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: ikanyubodoh on January 14, 2010, 08:02
dun think anyone will wan to risk driving this 10k speaker with a sub 1k amp.. pop and your tweeter is gone..  ;D

wah! Did you say ten grand . Speechless.....
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on January 14, 2010, 08:17
I do agree with you , i had the intention to purchase the Contour 1.4 but end up getting 110 as i find the it not far off against the 1.4. On few track i actually find the 110 sound better then 1.4. I had a friend that brought his 805S over to pit against my 110 and was amazed how a small speaker sound like and was impressed.

The law of diminishing returns certainly apply for this 110. :)

BTW, Stealth any possibility if you can grant a newbie like me to listen to your C1?  :P

Sure ;D your're welcome! PM me and we'll arrange from there. ;)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on January 14, 2010, 10:47
wah! Did you say ten grand . Speechless.....

Yes, it is about S$10.5K for the normal finishing with orginal speaker stand. 20% more for high gloss white lacquer and piano black lacquer finish.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: xerox on January 14, 2010, 12:43
Sure ;D your're welcome! PM me and we'll arrange from there. ;)


Thanks man. Finally can listen to C1 heh heh heh. Scare kana poison only wahahaha.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on January 14, 2010, 13:42

Thanks man. Finally can listen to C1 heh heh heh. Scare kana poison only wahahaha.

bro you were warned...  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on January 14, 2010, 13:48
bro you were warned...  ;D

Like that I got more business mah ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on January 14, 2010, 15:00
Yes, it is about S$10.5K for the normal finishing with orginal speaker stand. 20% more for high gloss white lacquer and piano black lacquer finish.

Bro clitang,

I think you better help to do some invitation also..wapiang my inbox going to flood liao.. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: jonlee on January 14, 2010, 15:07
funny leh...why don't just goto Dynaudio showroom in aldephi and look for Nick to audition the C1?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on January 14, 2010, 15:09
funny leh...why don't just goto Dynaudio showroom in aldephi and look for Nick to audition the C1?

Good suggestion. Maybe we can loan some equipement from Nick to put into our home for audition.....Haha
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on January 14, 2010, 15:17
Bro clitang,

I think you better help to do some invitation also..wapiang my inbox going to flood liao.. ;D ;D ;D


Haha, that's a good sign. More bros here are interested in Dynaudio speakers. My room is not ready yet. I am still doing some room treatment and tuning. Maybe in the near future. Do not want to give bro here the wrong impression of C1. Do not do justices to C1...

Maybe I would suggest those bro interested to listen to your C1, they would offer you to go to their house to listen to their system also. This is call "Got Come Got Go"
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on January 14, 2010, 15:21
Good suggestion. Maybe we can loan some equipement from Nick to put into our home for audition.....Haha

huh got loan ah? C1? Plinius 9200? i volunteer!!! i volunteer!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: xerox on January 14, 2010, 15:59
funny leh...why don't just goto Dynaudio showroom in aldephi and look for Nick to audition the C1?


Been there a few time, he is busy serving customer thus it is not good to hog his showroom and prevent other potential customer from auditing right?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Quest on January 14, 2010, 16:32
all this talk make me feel interested to visit also. :) stealth, i am also keen to visit if allowed.. :)
typically showroom will always lose out to a gd home setup.
are you also using plinius?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: nic_wei on January 14, 2010, 17:25
all this talk make me feel interested to visit also. :) stealth, i am also keen to visit if allowed.. :)
typically showroom will always lose out to a gd home setup.
are you also using plinius?
I am interested too.
Bro Stealth system: Primare CD21 - Densen Classics DM20 - DM30 - Dynaudio Confidence C1 with full Nordost Cable.     
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: francis woo on January 14, 2010, 17:37
huh got loan ah? C1? Plinius 9200? i volunteer!!! i volunteer!!!  ;D

I am still looking for the P10...anybody!!!.......... ::)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: rahul on January 14, 2010, 17:45
sorry old pic.
Will try to get an updated one with all the missing stuff :)

Updated:

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4059/4256506060_926c308ebb_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on January 14, 2010, 18:22
rahul, yr sig needs to be updated?

That looks like a Denon AVR ;) and a plinius amp, both not in yr sig
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: rahul on January 14, 2010, 18:38
rahul, yr sig needs to be updated?

That looks like a Denon AVR ;) and a plinius amp, both not in yr sig

Sorry thats not my setup.
A friend's ..who is not a forum member :-)

AVR is indeed Denon 4810
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on January 15, 2010, 22:46
Just completed a 7.1 hi-end HT setup at my customer's place :D

(http://i512.photobucket.com/albums/t322/rotti15/17greenleafplace007.jpg?t=1263566305)
(http://i512.photobucket.com/albums/t322/rotti15/17greenleafplace011.jpg?t=1263566348)
(http://i512.photobucket.com/albums/t322/rotti15/17greenleafplace009.jpg?t=1263566383)

Equipments:
Dynaudio Evidence Temptation, Confidence Centre, Audience 42sat, SUB500
Plinius Tautoro pre, SA-REF power, Odeon 5 channel power
Denon AVP-A1HD, Pioneer BDP-91, Chord Electronics Red Reference CDP & Audiomagic Stealth XXX
Wired with full Nordost Cables
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: seanyzf on January 15, 2010, 22:51
omg.. can get orgasms just by looking at the pics.. but with this kind of budget i'm curious y he did not go for the Evidence center ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on January 16, 2010, 00:14
Wow, listen to this system I guess is better then ML (Making Lxvx)

Just curious what is the est. total cost for all the equipment alone with the cable and the accessory. Let me guess, S$200K enough?

Do you have the picture what type of sofa your customer has installed in this room?

Hi Nick, is the whole setup done by you from start include the room treatment and renovation?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on January 16, 2010, 00:22
Wow, listen to this system I guess is better then ML (Making Lxvx)

Just curious what is the est. total cost for all the equipment alone with the cable and the accessory.

Hi Nick, is the whole setup done by you from start include the room treatment and renovation?

There are a total of 3 systems in the same house. above setup is the biggest. Total estimated around $200k excluding the room treatment.

Yes, took me 1 full year to lias with owner, designer and contractors to built up this sound room in the basement with room treatment at the side wall and ceiling.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on January 16, 2010, 00:43
Can i buy a Ticket to this home theatre?  :D now thats what i call XTREMEPLACE!!!  ;D
$200k my my..... i gotta change to a better paid job, this never ending Dynaudio journey is poisonous.  :o

got pictures of the other 2 setups for us to drool?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: rahul on January 16, 2010, 02:07
Wow....thats a real.." no expense spared " system !!!!!!


Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on January 16, 2010, 08:22
Can i buy a Ticket to this home theatre?  :D now thats what i call XTREMEPLACE!!!  ;D
$200k my my..... i gotta change to a better paid job, this never ending Dynaudio journey is poisonous.  :o

go pictures of the other 2 setups for us to drool?

Either watch HT or listen music don't think you wanna step out of the room or go to a cinemas in town liao ;D

I forgot to take the other 2 yesterday but nothing like the big setup lah  :P

Living room setup:
Dynaudio 30th Anniversary Sapphire, Plinius Hiato, CD101, Marantz ST-11 & Panasonic 65' plasma & bluray.
Wired by full Nordost Cables :D

Master room:
Dynaudio Contour S3.4, Plinius 9200 & Marantz SA-15 & Nordost Cables

 
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on January 16, 2010, 09:10
Oh Man! this guy must be a CEO of some big corporation or what? my Panasonic regional director at best only a 50" plasma... the rest of the equipment i wont bother telling you.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: francis woo on January 16, 2010, 09:38
Either watch HT or listen music don't think you wanna step out of the room or go to a cinemas in town liao ;D

I forgot to take the other 2 yesterday but nothing like the big setup lah  :P

Living room setup:
Dynaudio 30th Anniversary Sapphire, Plinius Hiato, CD101, Marantz ST-11 & Panasonic 65' plasma & bluray.
Wired by full Nordost Cables :D

Master room:
Dynaudio Contour S3.4, Plinius 9200 & Marantz SA-15 & Nordost Cables

 

So, are you gonna to introduce him to us!!!!....... ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on January 16, 2010, 09:49
So, are you gonna to introduce him to us!!!!....... ;D

ahh i like that  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: landis on January 16, 2010, 09:55
but if the pictures are posted here without the permission of the owners then it is not very nice
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on January 16, 2010, 10:29
but if the pictures are posted here without the permission of the owners then it is not very nice


Sure gotten the permission from owner if not I also dare not post  :P Later kena pluck by him  :P
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: landis on January 16, 2010, 10:50
you are a nice guy. just dont want to see you in trouble. cheers ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: CASH on January 17, 2010, 16:36
any open house to listen to your system, stealth? would be interested to have a listen.  :D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: abc on January 17, 2010, 18:02
Audit the C1 in HK some time ago, it is good but not worth the price tag IMHO.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on January 17, 2010, 19:34
Audit the C1 in HK some time ago, it is good but not worth the price tag IMHO.

Then which speaker do you think is worth at this price tag? I think it is very healthy to start a discussion here. At this price range, what is other choices are available?

Where did you audit the C1 in HK? What gears the C1 is connected to?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on January 17, 2010, 19:38
If it's cheaper. Then my CS2.4 definitely more worth it's price tag? Floorstander overall more impelling isn't it?

oh ya, abc is using B&W 802D.... no wonder... his is worth the price tag  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: shsoh on January 17, 2010, 19:39
Yes the C1! Please let me know when the audition is available. Thanks!
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on January 18, 2010, 00:45
Yes the C1! Please let me know when the audition is available. Thanks!

Sure.

I just sold off my CDP and still looking around for one.

I have also order some bass traps and diffuser. Might still need some time to have a proper setup

Maybe you would bring your CDP to my place one of the day.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: shsoh on January 18, 2010, 13:31
Sure.

I just sold off my CDP and still looking around for one.

I have also order some bass traps and diffuser. Might still need some time to have a proper setup

Maybe you would bring your CDP to my place one of the day.

Can... I have a Meridian 200 and Wadia 12 DAC. I just need 2 power cords from your end.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on January 18, 2010, 15:57
Can... I have a Meridian 200 and Wadia 12 DAC. I just need 2 power cords from your end.

Check PM.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on January 18, 2010, 16:05
If it's cheaper. Then my CS2.4 definitely more worth it's price tag? Floorstander overall more impelling isn't it?

oh ya, abc is using B&W 802D.... no wonder... his is worth the price tag  ;D

Oh! Bro ABC is using 802D, different ledge man. I guess, C1 is only 50% or 60% of 802D in terms of cost. No wonder, bro ABC mentioned C1 is worth the price tag.

I think if want to compare the "same level"as 802D, it has to be the Dynaudio C4 or the Sapphire 30th Anniv.... or maybe other...? I am not sure.

Again, I would like to ask those bros here, to your opinion. What other monitor speaker would you choose other then C1 at the same price range? Any comment...
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: abc on January 18, 2010, 17:16
Then which speaker do you think is worth at this price tag? I think it is very healthy to start a discussion here. At this price range, what is other choices are available?

Where did you audit the C1 in HK? What gears the C1 is connected to?

I misinterpreted in my previous thread, as i was told that the C1 cost 12K brand new? Thus i thought it is on the high side. But i was told by one of my pal that it cost less then $10K now in SG? Can anyone confirm if this is true?

I audited the C1 in a friend's house , he is driving it with Full Mark Levinson Pre-Pwd and using No 390s CDP with Nordost cable. This combination seems to have good synergy with each other and i dare to say it can beat some floorstander speaker. No kidding.But i think C1 need the a good amp and source to bring out the best.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on January 18, 2010, 18:10
Haha Audio likes the consequence UE.
For me the C1 is the type of sound I am looking for. But it's way off my budget, not forgetting the need to get solid amps & cables for it. At 1st I insist floorstander with 3 proper sized drivers gives you the fuller sound. To me it still is, but the C1 pounds any floorstander that is below $10k mark. Dynamics much better than my CS2.4, if I am driving my thiels with 2 BC 1k mkII then I am on par with it. IMO. Take it with a pinch of salt. The difference is +/-.  
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: francis woo on January 18, 2010, 18:14
Haha Audio likes the consequence UE.
For me the C1 is the type of sound I am looking for. But it's way off my budget, not forgetting the need to get solid amps & cables for it. At 1st I insist floorstander with 3 proper sized drivers gives you the fuller sound. To me it still is, but the C1 pounds any floorstander that is below $10k mark. Dynamics much better than my CS2.4, if I am driving my thiels with 2 BC 1k mkII then I am on par with it. IMO. Take it with a pinch of salt. The difference is +/-.  

Buy a third hand one loh........... ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Quest on January 18, 2010, 18:27
Haha Audio likes the consequence UE.
For me the C1 is the type of sound I am looking for. But it's way off my budget, not forgetting the need to get solid amps & cables for it. At 1st I insist floorstander with 3 proper sized drivers gives you the fuller sound. To me it still is, but the C1 pounds any floorstander that is below $10k mark. Dynamics much better than my CS2.4, if I am driving my thiels with 2 BC 1k mkII then I am on par with it. IMO. Take it with a pinch of salt. The difference is +/-.  
Surprising to hear that really.

But if you can get your Thiels to sound as good with BC 1k mkII, then I wonder what is wrong with it.
Do you mean its easier to get better results with the C1 or what? :)
Like you mentioned, I am sure equipment and cabling matters quite a lot to get the result.. and you may end up spending a lot more than you figured you would. At least this is what happened to me. ;)

Talking about cabling.. I am not sure what stealth is using (i just read he is using full nordost) but nic just poisoned me with the Valkyrja speaker cable which cost more than S$4k. Nordost is good but it may not come cheap. :)

But if you are confident the C1 will satisfy your urges, it is always good to get the right speaker as that makes the largest difference. Just go for it!

Honestly after going to nic's shop so many times, I am also beginning to like the dynaudio sound as I get more familiar with it. It is also a major plus it has speakers of the $15-30k price range which some brands (including Focal which so far I had been supporting) does not have, leaving a gap for upgraders.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on January 18, 2010, 18:39
Haha Audio likes the consequence UE.
For me the C1 is the type of sound I am looking for. But it's way off my budget, not forgetting the need to get solid amps & cables for it. At 1st I insist floorstander with 3 proper sized drivers gives you the fuller sound. To me it still is, but the C1 pounds any floorstander that is below $10k mark. Dynamics much better than my CS2.4, if I am driving my thiels with 2 BC 1k mkII then I am on par with it. IMO. Take it with a pinch of salt. The difference is +/-.  

Here's 1 pair of you at our neighbour country. You may need to log in to view. But don't know is it sold?

http://www.hifi4sale.net/audio-video-equipment-for-sale-f1/dynaudio-confidence-c1-speakers-used-t3425.htm?highlight=dynaudio+confidence+c1
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: ilovepanerai on January 18, 2010, 19:07
Haha Audio likes the consequence UE.
For me the C1 is the type of sound I am looking for. But it's way off my budget, not forgetting the need to get solid amps & cables for it. At 1st I insist floorstander with 3 proper sized drivers gives you the fuller sound. To me it still is, but the C1 pounds any floorstander that is below $10k mark. Dynamics much better than my CS2.4, if I am driving my thiels with 2 BC 1k mkII then I am on par with it. IMO. Take it with a pinch of salt. The difference is +/-. 

Makes me wonder how will the C1 sound with a pair of BC mkII...

Cheers
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on January 18, 2010, 20:25
I misinterpreted in my previous thread, as i was told that the C1 cost 12K brand new? Thus i thought it is on the high side. But i was told by one of my pal that it cost less then $10K now in SG? Can anyone confirm if this is true?

I audited the C1 in a friend's house , he is driving it with Full Mark Levinson Pre-Pwd and using No 390s CDP with Nordost cable. This combination seems to have good synergy with each other and i dare to say it can beat some floorstander speaker. No kidding.But i think C1 need the a good amp and source to bring out the best.

The C1 with normal finish cost about S$9.5K without stand.

Yes, C1 need a good amp and source to bring out the best. But which speaker no need?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: abc on January 18, 2010, 21:02
The C1 with normal finish cost about S$9.5K without stand.

Yes, C1 need a good amp and source to bring out the best. But which speaker no need?

More about matching i would say, beside what amp are you using at the moment?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on January 18, 2010, 21:11
Buy a third hand one loh........... ;D

not easy lor... if have sure fast fast sold in 5mins
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on January 18, 2010, 21:14
Makes me wonder how will the C1 sound with a pair of BC mkII...

Cheers

from what i know it wouldnt sound as "right" with Class D, of coz i might be wrong. as those with C1 are using very very good ClassAB SS amps with huge Toriodial Transformer.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: ilovepanerai on January 18, 2010, 21:28
from what i know it wouldnt sound as "right" with Class D, of coz i might be wrong. as those with C1 are using very very good ClassAB SS amps with huge Toriodial Transformer.

Ahh...that puts me in the camp of "Forget about the C1".. ;D
dun know if this is a blessing or... :P

Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on January 18, 2010, 21:29
Quest as per your queries....

But if you can get your Thiels to sound as good with BC 1k mkII, then I wonder what is wrong with it.
nothings wrong with the thiels, just that my room is small and stealths room is smaller than mine yet his C1 sound so big.
Do you mean its easier to get better results with the C1 or what? :)
Oh no, not really that easier but more options. A good Plinius 9200 would suffice. C1 rating is only 170W. no need very high power but quality power amp. i was thinking Emotiva again for its VFM.  
Like you mentioned, I am sure equipment and cabling matters quite a lot to get the result.. and you may end up spending a lot more than you figured you would. At least this is what happened to me. ;)
This i confirm, so i wont be so much in a rush do anything drastic. Since i am listening to near field, i am going to rearrange my setup in such a way i get a wider soundstage. similiar to your room setup.

Go for it? ahhh no no... too many wish list... step by step.
yeah the dynaudio sound signature is hard to beat, my friend got a X12 which he promptly replaces his old speakers. i wont say brand.  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Quest on January 18, 2010, 21:59
nothings wrong with the thiels, just that my room is small and stealths room is smaller than mine yet his C1 sound so big.
wow, even more interesting to me. sounds like it is a good match-up of speaker + room which contributes to this effect.
bookshelves are also easier to get soundstaging right.

Oh no, not really that easier but more options. A good Plinius 9200 would suffice. C1 rating is only 170W. no need very high power but quality power amp. i was thinking Emotiva again for its VFM.
well, my emotiva is not used for time being if u still want to borrow to try.
am not sure how good is the pairing though. i had thoroughly explored the emotiva and am aware of its weaknesses too well already. :)

This i confirm, so i wont be so much in a rush do anything drastic. Since i am listening to near field, i am going to rearrange my setup in such a way i get a wider soundstage. similiar to your room setup.
i'm not so sure if this is an improvement really.. personally i feel having space to sit further away from your speaker is more effective to establishing wider soundstage versus placing your speakers wider apart from each other. no harm trying though.
previously when you tried francis' diffusers, were you able to make the soundstage wider?

Go for it? ahhh no no... too many wish list... step by step.
so which is your first step? :)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: xerox on January 18, 2010, 22:12
I am lucky to have a chance to audit the C1, Nic was kind enough to spend time allowing me to demo the C1 driven by the Densen. I would say once you used to Dynaudio it is hard to make a switch.

I am thinking about making a jump from focus to C1, still thinking hard........  because it is not a cheap upgrade hahaha.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on January 18, 2010, 22:41
More about matching i would say, beside what amp are you using at the moment?

I am using a Plinius 102 power amp and Plinius M8 pre.

To me, not a bad match, but I have other choices in mind.....

In my own opinion, C1 should match with a "Band One" amp. If not, it is a waste..... However, you might not agreed with me.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on January 18, 2010, 22:43
I am lucky to have a chance to audit the C1, Nic was kind enough to spend time allowing me to demo the C1 driven by the Densen. I would say once you used to Dynaudio it is hard to make a switch.

I am thinking about making a jump from focus to C1, still thinking hard........  because it is not a cheap upgrade hahaha.

Don't wait already lah... I heard that the selling price of Dynaudio speaker is going to increase in the very near future. I guess is sometime in Feb 2010.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on January 18, 2010, 23:10
Hi

IMO, one of the monitor speaker that can match with C1 is Wilson Benesch bookshelf range like Discovery. But, if I am not wrong, it costs about 2 or 3 times more...

 
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: domj on January 18, 2010, 23:23
Hi

IMO, one of the monitor speaker that can match with C1 is Wilson Benesch bookshelf range like Discovery. But, if I am not wrong, it costs about 2 or 3 times more...

 

The Discovery is ard $13k if i am not wrong..super fast speaker with twin bass drivers in isobaric design...
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: xerox on January 18, 2010, 23:30
Don't wait already lah... I heard that the selling price of Dynaudio speaker is going to increase in the very near future. I guess is sometime in Feb 2010.

Yeah i know haha, but just wanna know if my source gonna do justice to the C1 even though Nic had reassure me that my equipment is good enough.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on January 18, 2010, 23:34
I am lucky to have a chance to audit the C1, Nic was kind enough to spend time allowing me to demo the C1 driven by the Densen. I would say once you used to Dynaudio it is hard to make a switch.

I am thinking about making a jump from focus to C1, still thinking hard........  because it is not a cheap upgrade hahaha.

told you so. i audited the focus110 then C1, Focus was really good, but then the C1 heard the same tracks... i was overwhelmed. ya not cheap..... cannot cannot. like i said don't play already sell everything  :P or just be contented with what we have. :-X
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: domj on January 18, 2010, 23:51
told you so. i audited the focus110 then C1, Focus was really good, but then the C1 heard the same tracks... i was overwhelmed. ya not cheap..... cannot cannot. like i said don't play already sell everything  :P or just be contented with what we have. :-X

haha....Focus 110 how to compare to C1. The C1 no doubt is solid, the price is likewise solid ;D. But the Focus series already is very gd in it's price range.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: xerox on January 18, 2010, 23:54
told you so. i audited the focus110 then C1, Focus was really good, but then the C1 heard the same tracks... i was overwhelmed. ya not cheap..... cannot cannot. like i said don't play already sell everything  :P or just be contented with what we have. :-X

But it will serve no purpose if i go to Contour 1.4 as i wasn't that impressed when compared it agianst 110. C1 seems to be a better bet but an expensive one.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on January 19, 2010, 00:00
But it will serve no purpose if i go to Contour 1.4 as i wasn't that impressed when compared it agianst 110. C1 seems to be a better bet but an expensive one.

Save up 1st then go C1,
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on January 19, 2010, 00:30
Save up 1st then go C1,

Yes, agreed. Go for C1 don't waste time. If possbile go for the Sapphire 30th Anniv even better.. 
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: rahul on January 19, 2010, 00:48
So much poison in this thread.
I was enjoying my Focus 220 but now hear so many rave reviews about C1...

Better not audition C1......
Enjoy what I can afford :)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on January 19, 2010, 08:34
So much poison in this thread.
I was enjoying my Focus 220 but now hear so many rave reviews about C1...

Better not audition C1......
Enjoy what I can afford :)
woah 220 mkII is really good. Very neat floorstanding model.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on January 19, 2010, 08:53
woah 220 mkII is really good. Very neat floorstanding model.

Another option for you? ;D if C1 is too out of your range?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on January 19, 2010, 10:22
Another option for you? ;D if C1 is too out of your range?
haha mai leh. You told me small room no need floorstander leh. Wait my CO kill me, every year change spk. But hmm maybe weekend go adelphi listen listen ::)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: xerox on January 19, 2010, 10:43
Yes, agreed. Go for C1 don't waste time. If possbile go for the Sapphire 30th Anniv even better.. 

Yeah saving now heh heh heh......
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: jonlee on January 19, 2010, 16:38
I think I better stop reading this thread, and will make a mental note to walk past Nick's showroom "fast leg fast hand" when I'm in aldephi.   ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: OmegaRed on January 19, 2010, 17:57
I think I better stop reading this thread, and will make a mental note to walk past Nick's showroom "fast leg fast hand" when I'm in aldephi.   ;D

Your Thiel not as good as C1 meh?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Quest on January 19, 2010, 18:05
haha mai leh. You told me small room no need floorstander leh. Wait my CO kill me, every year change spk. But hmm maybe weekend go adelphi listen listen ::)
tell your CO you downgraded cos the speaker smaller. ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on January 19, 2010, 18:13
Your Thiel not as good as C1 meh?

""Thiel not as good as C1"".

Any comment from any bro here to the above???

To me it is different, I owned Thiel CS2.4 before.

Let me ask if there any different when you drive a Honda Civic and VW GTI Golf RS or Subaru WRX? Maybe yes or not.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on January 19, 2010, 18:36
tell your CO you downgraded cos the speaker smaller. ;D

Idea! she did say why i got the 2.4 the last time sooo bigggg....sure get scolding "see small good right"  :P
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on January 19, 2010, 18:40
""Thiel not as good as C1"".

Any comment from any bro here to the above???

To me it is different, I owned Thiel CS2.4 before.

Let me ask if there any different when you drive a Honda Civic and VW GTI Golf RS or Subaru WRX? Maybe yes or not.

bro ciltang how many watts was your 102 providing to drive the thiels? how efficient was it?  to me its very different when the thiels are driven by ClassAB amps as compared to ClassD amps. you ever heard the thiels with BC 1k MkII?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DanDon on January 19, 2010, 20:39
tell your CO you downgraded cos the speaker smaller. ;D

Good one and brilliant! You made me laugh ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: xerox on January 19, 2010, 20:53
bro ciltang how many watts was your 102 providing to drive the thiels? how efficient was it?  to me its very different when the thiels are driven by ClassAB amps as compared to ClassD amps. you ever heard the thiels with BC 1k MkII?

Bro seriously i felt Bel Canto isn't a good match for your 2.4, the last time i went to the showroom i find it pretty clinical sounding. Have you tried driving your 2.4 with other amp?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: seanyzf on January 19, 2010, 22:07
LAMM is very poisonous.. Stay away...  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: xerox on January 19, 2010, 23:19
IMHO, the 2.4 is a decent speaker as per mentioned by bluetang it is well regards to in the HK hifi magazine. I felt the 2.4 might just need more power to bring out it's full potential which i still felt strongly the Bel Canto is unable to.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on January 20, 2010, 00:29
bro ciltang how many watts was your 102 providing to drive the thiels? how efficient was it?  to me its very different when the thiels are driven by ClassAB amps as compared to ClassD amps. you ever heard the thiels with BC 1k MkII?

The Plinius able to provide 100w pure class A.

I have not heard Thiel with BC 1K mkII. Is it good?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on January 20, 2010, 08:35
i think best we move to Thiel's owners thread since we are starting to deviate discussions on 2.4  :)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: nic_wei on January 20, 2010, 14:20
Went Bro Nic house last night. Thanks Bro Nic for the invitation. Very impressed by his both ht and stereo setup, especially the C1. Small speaker, huge soundstage. Amazing that it can produce very huge soundstage in a very small room. It blown me up to heaven. It is the best home hifi I heard so far. Well done Bro Nic, you are the man. For those who have $10k budget for speaker, must try C1.
Sad to say that Bro Nic ht setup is better than my stereo set up. Like the Focus 110 very much, saving money for the Focus 110 (C1 is too ex for me). Anyone selling his Focus? Please pm me.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on January 20, 2010, 14:48
Bro nic_wei,

Hope you really enjoy yourself last nite  :D At least you know now the full combinations of densen, nordost & dyns sound characteristics ;)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on January 20, 2010, 15:45
Went Bro Nic house last night. Thanks Bro Nic for the invitation. Very impressed by his both ht and stereo setup, especially the C1. Small speaker, huge soundstage. Amazing that it can produce very huge soundstage in a very small room. It blown me up to heaven. It is the best home hifi I heard so far. Well done Bro Nic, you are the man. For those who have $10k budget for speaker, must try C1.
Sad to say that Bro Nic ht setup is better than my stereo set up. Like the Focus 110 very much, saving money for the Focus 110 (C1 is too ex for me). Anyone selling his Focus? Please pm me.

haha bro xerox... you got ready buyer if u really thinking C1...  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: rahul on January 20, 2010, 17:46
Has anyone tried BelCanto with Dynaudio..or any other Class D for that matter?
Is the current delivery good enough to bring out the best from these speakers?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: yihyan on January 20, 2010, 17:56
Has anyone tried BelCanto with Dynaudio..or any other Class D for that matter?
Is the current delivery good enough to bring out the best from these speakers?

I'm paring BC integrated wif Focus :)
It suits me well :) see herehttp://www.xtremeplace.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=61544.msg468783#msg468783 (http://www.xtremeplace.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=61544.msg468783#msg468783)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on January 20, 2010, 18:00
with bro yihyan posting, it seems this pairing and matching equally subjective.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: yihyan on January 20, 2010, 18:07
with bro yihyan posting, it seems this pairing and matching equally subjective.

yeah, its a matter of personal preference :)
oh ya, FYI, all cables are from kimber.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: rahul on January 20, 2010, 18:25
Thanks for that info.
I am still looking out for a power amp to go into my study setup.
I would mostly be listening at a low volume...so good fidelity at low sound level is important for me.
Perhaps need to go Class A to get that !

Am temporarliy running the Dynaudios off 12W Cayin MT12. Its not terrible...but obviously not a match.

PC > Lavry DA11 > Cayin MT12 > Dynaudio Focus 220 MK2

Room is still quite bare. Only the carpet and a bookshelf on one of the walls. More treatment needed. Boomy bass is biggest problem.
Room shape is not really ideal...rectangle with a triangle on top !  but I dont think its too bad either as the pointed end of the room is behind the speakers.
Managed to utilize the pointed corner with a study table.
Dimensions 3m x 4.5m 

(http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z101/indiangunner/studyroom.jpg)


Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: nic_wei on January 20, 2010, 18:28
Bro nic_wei,

Hope you really enjoy yourself last nite  :D At least you know now the full combinations of densen, nordost & dyns sound characteristics ;)

I love the combinations of densen, nordost & dyns. I have densen, nordost (except power cord), but no dynaudio.  :(
Next step is buy dynaudio speakers and nordost pc. Bro Nic do you have any spare nordost for lend? ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on January 20, 2010, 18:39
I love the combinations of densen, nordost & dyns. I have densen, nordost (except power cord), but no dynaudio.  :(
Next step is buy dynaudio speakers and nordost pc. Bro Nic do you have any spare nordost for lend? ;D

All my Nordost pc all in use leh..paiseh.. :P

But you can borrow from GP Acoustics for home trial.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: venturer on January 20, 2010, 18:39
from the positive feedback to stealth's setup, I guess Densen is a good match for Dynaudio.

stealth is using DM30? Densen seem to had changed their amp design. DM series is Dual mono that I thought should be superior. Not sure if current model B-320 which come with bigger transformer rating is as good as DM30.

DM-30 2x300VA = 600VA
B-320 750VA.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on January 20, 2010, 18:42
from the positive feedback to stealth's setup, I guess Densen is a good match for Dynaudio.

stealth is using DM30? Densen seem to had changed their amp design. DM series is Dual mono that I thought should be superior. Not sure if current model B-320 which come with bigger transformer rating is as good as DM30.

DM-30 2x300VA = 600VA
B-320 750VA.


Yes, I'm using the DM30 dual mono design.
Only the new BEAT 330 is comparable to DM30.  :P
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: nic_wei on January 20, 2010, 18:47
All my Nordost pc all in use leh..paiseh.. :P

But you can borrow from GP Acoustics for home trial.

Is ok. Thanks.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: IwishIwasToneDeaf on January 20, 2010, 20:24
from the positive feedback to stealth's setup, I guess Densen is a good match for Dynaudio.

stealth is using DM30? Densen seem to had changed their amp design. DM series is Dual mono that I thought should be superior. Not sure if current model B-320 which come with bigger transformer rating is as good as DM30.

DM-30 2x300VA = 600VA
B-320 750VA.


Yeah the DM30 is much better than the B-100 integrated and the B200/B300 combo i owned before. Have not heard the B-330 though.  :)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on January 20, 2010, 20:53
Wah bro Rahul, nice setup erm where you buy that chair & for how much?
 
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: xerox on January 20, 2010, 21:36
Pic of my humble setup ---


(http://i48.tinypic.com/2u7u93d.jpg)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on January 20, 2010, 21:44
 :) wah suddenly lots of Dynaudio pics to see.  :)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: nic_wei on January 20, 2010, 22:33
Pic of my humble setup ---


(http://i48.tinypic.com/2u7u93d.jpg)

Nice setup, bro.  :)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: rahul on January 20, 2010, 22:36
Wah bro Rahul, nice setup erm where you buy that chair & for how much?
 

replied to your pm.
Thats a Barcelona chair.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: rahul on January 20, 2010, 22:38
Naim and Densen setups !! They should be sounding somewhat similar as these two have similar house sound with lots of PRAT.
Very tempted by DM30
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: vp171s on January 20, 2010, 23:10
Thanks for that info.
I am still looking out for a power amp to go into my study setup.
I would mostly be listening at a low volume...so good fidelity at low sound level is important for me.
Perhaps need to go Class A to get that !

My personal experience is that Dynaudio speakers respond best when driven hard, with volume turned up.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on January 20, 2010, 23:16
My personal experience is that Dynaudio speakers respond best when driven hard, with volume turned up.

Fully agreed with you bro :D but not all of us can blast loud in our small pigeon hole :P
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on January 20, 2010, 23:24
Pic of my humble setup ---


(http://i48.tinypic.com/2u7u93d.jpg)

Nice setup. If you are keen to upgrade to C1. Would suggest go for the speaker first, then slowly look for the matching amp, CDP and cables. For me this is the way to go.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on January 20, 2010, 23:24
you all good lah,  seperate setups for HT and stereo. i gotta 2 in 1 into my small room. CO dislikes playing loud HT.  >:(
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: xerox on January 20, 2010, 23:25
@Nic_Wei - thanks for your comment.

@Rahul - i felt either Naim or Densen should be good match. :) must trial and error. I had a friend pair his Contour with Classe amp. Not bad also.

@clitang - yeah if i upgraded to C1 i prefer to stick with Naim either move up to at least 282/250/CDS3 or best 252/300/CDS3, else sell everything go for Ayre/Jeff Rowland/Classe setup. Either way is going burn one big hole. Unless i strike toto or 4D .... haha  :P

I agree the Dynaudio sound good at high volume in fact i am blasting the speaker now.  :P
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on January 20, 2010, 23:30
@Nic_Wei - thanks for your comment.

@Rahul - i felt either Naim or Densen should be good match. :) must trial and error. I had a friend pair his Contour with Classe amp. Not bad also.

I agree the Dynaudio sound good at high volume in fact i am blasting the speaker now.  :P

If your feet is tapping with the music means you're enjoying the blasting now, if not just shut it down and go to sleep :P :P
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: xerox on January 20, 2010, 23:35
If your feet is tapping with the music means you're enjoying the blasting now, if not just shut it down and go to sleep :P :P

Brother i had become panda after buying Dynaudio speaker..... everyday zzzz late. Keep on changing CD....  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on January 20, 2010, 23:45
Brother i had become panda after buying Dynaudio speaker..... everyday zzzz late. Keep on changing CD....  ;D

Buy a music server and load all your CD into the hard drive. Like SooLoo, then no need to change CD any more....I like this idea.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on January 20, 2010, 23:48
@clitang - yeah if i upgraded to C1 i prefer to stick with Naim either move up to at least 282/250/CDS3 or best 252/300/CDS3, else sell everything go for Ayre/Jeff Rowland/Classe setup. Either way is going burn one big hole. Unless i strike toto or 4D .... haha  :P

I agree the Dynaudio sound good at high volume in fact i am blasting the speaker now.  :P

I would suggest to go for JF 500. I have heard the setup before....GOOO000D Man. The JF500 cost about US$8800, good value of money.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: nic_wei on January 20, 2010, 23:53
I agree the Dynaudio sound good at high volume in fact i am blasting the speaker now.  :P
You are lucky man, so late still can blast. My next door have baby sleeping, cannot blast. :( My amp volume will automatic turn down by wife. :(
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: xerox on January 20, 2010, 23:56
Yeah thinking bout building a music server, most likely a small pc based on Intel Atom on a microATX board. Storage will be on a NAS and store in other room. I am currently using Asio bit perfect and hook up to a diy dac then to Naim. I will add a tube stage to my DIY dac when i have time.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: xerox on January 20, 2010, 23:58
You are lucky man, so late still can blast. My next door have baby sleeping, cannot blast. :( My amp volume will automatic turn down by wife. :(

I am single hood so can of course can blast the hifi. My best friend is my hifi lor hahaa.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: rahul on January 21, 2010, 00:07
I am single hood so can of course can blast the hifi. My best friend is my hifi lor hahaa.

You very lucky.
Have you done some sound proofing?
Very easy to get police knocking on door if get carried away with the music at night !!


Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: xerox on January 21, 2010, 00:19
You very lucky.
Have you done some sound proofing?
Very easy to get police knocking on door if get carried away with the music at night !!


I had a sofa bed and i sleep in the room. No sound proofing at all.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: nic_wei on January 21, 2010, 00:40
Seems that those Dynaudio fans and bros here is not very active in this thread. Can I suggest those Dynaudio owner to start to post and share their setup here if they don't mind?

Let me start first. I have just changed my speaker to Dynaudio, a totally newbie. Still learning from all the seniors.

My simple setup
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/clitang/P1030306.jpg)

My new speakers
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/clitang/P1030309.jpg)

Another view
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/clitang/P1030310.jpg)

I love the Black Piano Lacquer Finishes - Very Classy
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/clitang/P1030312.jpg)

Change to Siltech cables. Learn from the seniors that Siltech match well with Dynaudio speaker and Plinius pre/power. It sound GOOOOOD. Able to bring the setup to another level....IMO
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/clitang/P1030429.jpg)

Siltech speaker cable
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/clitang/P1030426.jpg)

My simple setup :

Dynaudio C1 Speaker
Dynaudio Contour center speaker
Dynaudio BM 5 surround speaker
Plinius 102 power amp
Plinius M8 Pre amp
Marantz SA-14 Ver 2 CD/SACD player
Siltech G7 330l speaker cable
Siltech G7 330i interconnect
Siltech G7 220i interconnect
Siltech G5 SQ28 interconnect
Shunyata Black Mumba power cord
PS audio statment power cord
Kimber Kable Hero XLR interconnect
Audioquest HDMI cable
PS Audio power plant 600
Intergra DTC 9.8 AV processor
Pop Corn Hour C200
PS3
Denon 2500BTCi Blu Ray transport
Anthem MCA5 - 5 channel power amp
Sanyo Z2000 projector
Kikuchi Projector Screen
SVS PC-12 sub.


Hi Bro clitang,

You have very nice setup too. And you are the one who bring this thread back. Thanks. ;)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: fx on January 21, 2010, 09:11
My personal experience is that Dynaudio speakers respond best when driven hard, with volume turned up.
You are right bro! Really enjoyed playing loud,if soft no shiok. That why i only listen on weekend.No regret changing from Sonus Faber floorstander to Dynaudio bookshelf. ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on January 21, 2010, 09:47
You are right bro! Really enjoyed playing loud,if soft no shiok. That why i only listen on weekend.No regret changing from Sonus Faber floorstander to Dynaudio bookshelf. ;D

Good to hear that you have make the change to Dynaudio bookshelf. Picture? What gear?

Go to keep this thread going....Thank you
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: vp171s on January 21, 2010, 10:03
You very lucky.
Have you done some sound proofing?
Very easy to get police knocking on door if get carried away with the music at night !!

Single & leading a blasting lifestyle as well ! So far no police at the door  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on January 21, 2010, 10:28
Keep the thread going....

Seems like quite a few of us already owned up, I believe there's still more in this forum using Dyns only not posting :(

If Harberth thread can go that many pages why can't Dyns leh?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: francis woo on January 21, 2010, 10:37
Keep the thread going....

Seems like quite a few of us already owned up, I believe there's still more in this forum using Dyns only not posting :(

If Harberth thread can go that many pages why can't Dyns leh?

Sure, I am contributing.  I have 8 little Dyn drivers in my car........... ;D

Anybody selling the P10 yet...... :P
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on January 21, 2010, 10:40
Sure, I am contributing.  I have 8 little Dyn drivers in my car........... ;D

Anybody selling the P10 yet...... :P

Must be driving Volvo?

Don't think got ppl selling P10 lah..buy it new lor  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Quest on January 21, 2010, 11:25
bro clitang, just curious since u use siltech, how much are the speaker cables?
have you compared them much to other speaker cables?
i guess they are a logical choice as that's what plinius uses for internal wiring?

anyway, i also noticed you are using the mk102.
just curious, does it run hot in your room? that was my main concern when considering the 103.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: rahul on January 21, 2010, 12:53
Sure, I am contributing.  I have 8 little Dyn drivers in my car........... ;D

Anybody selling the P10 yet...... :P

Me also looking for P10. You will have competition when a unit is up for sale  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: nic_wei on January 21, 2010, 13:22
Anyone using/used OCOS cable with Dyns? Is it value for money?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Yubaba on January 21, 2010, 13:37
Anyone using/used OCOS cable with Dyns? Is it value for money?

Deifnitely value with money. Very Neutral sounding
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: vp171s on January 21, 2010, 14:17
Anyone using/used OCOS cable with Dyns? Is it value for money?

Me using also. Depends on your definition of VFM, versus other copper cables it's slightly on the lean side (in my system) & as mention above, it's neutral. For bass freaks, probably other cables might be more suitable.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: viper1912 on January 21, 2010, 14:25
Clitang....

yr C1.....looks sibeh sui........somemore piano finish......!!! C1 to me I can only dream nia...coz over here selling close to RM30K.

I heard Dyn (Evidence Master) pair with siltech...............over at my local dealer using JFRowland n Siltech combination.

The whole system cost > then RM100k......but the I still prefect Densen+ Nordost sound...
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: viper1912 on January 21, 2010, 15:33
Anyone using/used OCOS cable with Dyns? Is it value for money?


Got I've 2 set, hifi use Nordost, AV i use OCOS....
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: francis woo on January 21, 2010, 15:34
Me also looking for P10. You will have competition when a unit is up for sale  ;D

Hey Bro, please line up............. ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: nic_wei on January 21, 2010, 16:26

Got I've 2 set, hifi use Nordost, AV i use OCOS....
What Nordost and what speaker are you using? Any photo?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: nic_wei on January 21, 2010, 16:37
Bro yubaba, vp171s, viper1912 & all Dynaudio owner please share you picture here! Please..........!
Hope can join Dynaudio family soon!
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on January 21, 2010, 17:00
bro clitang, just curious since u use siltech, how much are the speaker cables?
have you compared them much to other speaker cables?
i guess they are a logical choice as that's what plinius uses for internal wiring?

anyway, i also noticed you are using the mk102.
just curious, does it run hot in your room? that was my main concern when considering the 103.

Hi Quest

The Siltech cable match very well with Dynaudio and Plinius.

Previous I am using Kimber Monocel XL. I have also audited Transparent Ultra XL. I still like the Siltech.

I am using 3 pairs of low end Siltech interconnect cables and a pair of entry level speaker cable.

CDP -> Pre - Siltech G5 SQ28
Pre -> Power - Siltech G7 330i
AV Amp -> Pre (for AV Bypass) - Siltech G7 220i
Power amp to Speaker - Siltech G7 330L

How much is it in total? About half the price of my C1.

My MK102 run hot when switch to class A mode. I guess the temp is about 70-80deg.

If you install it in a aircon or well ventilated room should not have any problem.

Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: viper1912 on January 21, 2010, 17:03
nic_ wei,

my setup kinda.....not organise at this moment. Shy 2 post d picture. Once I kao tim the TV stand. I will post the photo.

Not 2 set of Dyn ( only 1 only), just Dyn52, Densen DM20 &30. Marantz 63Ki....AV amp is Kenwood....quite old AV amp.
Speaker cable is Nordost Flatline Gold. and OCOS speaker cable when I want to watch RMVB movie. Which means....whenever I want to watch RMVB files...I will disconnect Nordost wire n plug OCOS in.

As Kenwood amp is connected to OCOS speaker cable.

Dun wait liao.......Focus 110 ...... is a good choice
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: sty on January 21, 2010, 17:07
Seeing all the solid Dynaudio speakers here make me so motivated to upgrade to the better models but definitely cant afford the C1. posting below my really cheapo room setup comprising the Audience 52. Paiseh.  :(

(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e256/sty_unilever/Mysetup.jpg)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: fx on January 21, 2010, 17:14
Good to hear that you have make the change to Dynaudio bookshelf. Picture? What gear?

Go to keep this thread going....Thank you

Already posted picture in pages 13.... ::)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: nic_wei on January 21, 2010, 17:35
nic_ wei,

my setup kinda.....not organise at this moment. Shy 2 post d picture. Once I kao tim the TV stand. I will post the photo.

Not 2 set of Dyn ( only 1 only), just Dyn52, Densen DM20 &30. Marantz 63Ki....AV amp is Kenwood....quite old AV amp.
Speaker cable is Nordost Flatline Gold. and OCOS speaker cable when I want to watch RMVB movie. Which means....whenever I want to watch RMVB files...I will disconnect Nordost wire n plug OCOS in.

As Kenwood amp is connected to OCOS speaker cable.

Dun wait liao.......Focus 110 ...... is a good choice
Wow!!! DM20 & DM30, my favorite. What IC & PC? Got any lobang to get DM20 & DM30?
I am saving for the Focus.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: domj on January 21, 2010, 17:45
Seeing all the solid Dynaudio speakers here make me so motivated to upgrade to the better models but definitely cant afford the C1. posting below my really cheapo room setup comprising the Audience 52. Paiseh.  :(

(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e256/sty_unilever/Mysetup.jpg)

Bro, no need paiseh lah, we all work within our budget and enjoy the music from our Dyns  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: rahul on January 21, 2010, 17:50
Yeah..the setup can always be upgraded as you grow older(save more).
More important to keep the passion going.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: spells on January 21, 2010, 18:48
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff163/williamspells/system-1.jpg)

previously use the tube+quad power to drive the audience 122 no bass

later change to the accuphase all the bass came out  :P
nice pair of slim floorstand just nice for me :)

(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff163/williamspells/dyna-1.jpg?t=1264070788)
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff163/williamspells/acc.jpg?t=1264070827)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on January 21, 2010, 18:56
nice... more & more bros here taking pic to share...  ;D makes me wanna join you guyz  :-X
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on January 21, 2010, 19:24
Hi

Good, Good,

More please...Keep it coming.....
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: xerox on January 21, 2010, 20:47
nice... more & more bros here taking pic to share...  ;D makes me wanna join you guyz  :-X

Faster faster mai tu leow!!!!
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on January 21, 2010, 21:19
Post on behalf of my best friend's setup :D

(http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs265.snc1/9224_145283753712_715378712_2368950_7004643_n.jpg)

Dynaudio Focus 110, 200C, Audience 42 & SUB300
Densen B200 & 300XS
Modded CA640 CDP
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: sjtan on January 21, 2010, 21:28
Post on behalf of my best friend's setup :D

(http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs265.snc1/9224_145283753712_715378712_2368950_7004643_n.jpg)

Dynaudio Focus 110, 200C, Audience 42 & SUB300
Densen B200 & 300XS
Modded CA640 CDP

Yoz Bro Stealth!! I am here but have been very quiet.
You beat me to it. But this picture is outdated liao. Hehehe.
Spot the difference...
(http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j297/i_mel69/Set-up.jpg)

Dynaudio Focus 110, 200C, Audience 42 & SUB300
Densen B200 & 300XS
Modded CA640 CDP
Nordost Magus, Shiva & Vishnu Power Cords / Frey & Red Dawn (Centre)Speaker Cables / Frey & Heimdal ICs / PS Audio Duet Power Centre / Finite Elemente Ceraball Universal & Nordost Titanium Pulsar Points.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on January 21, 2010, 21:30
Paiseh ah...your pic you never update me mah..now the updated pic looks so tokkong.. ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: sjtan on January 21, 2010, 21:36
Paiseh ah...your pic you never update me mah..now the updated pic looks so tokkong.. ;D
OK lah.. Nothing to boast about.. Got no C1 like yours leh..  Maybe in my dreams lah ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: viper1912 on January 21, 2010, 22:03
No need C1....as long as Dyn can liao...tis is what this tread is all abt....Dyns babey!!!!

Yrs setup also quite tok kong as well.......small speaker shines....in yr hall as well.

Small Red Chillis....although is small......Sound is so big lei......& its hot babey!!!

Nic ask me to get something like yr tv cabinet....can throw away my stupid kayu rack!!!!! That y i'm so shy to post my pic here....

 
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: domj on January 21, 2010, 22:15
stealth, sjtan, ur setups all sibei fierce one...all full Dyns + full Nordost.. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: xerox on January 21, 2010, 22:21
stealth, sjtan, ur setups all sibei fierce one...all full Dyns + full Nordost.. ;D ;D

Yeah lor, make me so envy......
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: nic_wei on January 21, 2010, 23:02
Yoz Bro Stealth!! I am here but have been very quiet.
You beat me to it. But this picture is outdated liao. Hehehe.
Spot the difference...
(http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j297/i_mel69/Set-up.jpg)

Dynaudio Focus 110, 200C, Audience 42 & SUB300
Densen B200 & 300XS
Modded CA640 CDP
Nordost Magus, Shiva & Vishnu Power Cords / Frey & Red Dawn (Centre)Speaker Cables / Frey & Heimdal ICs / PS Audio Duet Power Centre / Finite Elemente Ceraball Universal & Nordost Titanium Pulsar Points.

Wow!  :o Another Densen > Nordost > Dynaudio set up. Bro sjtan what Nordost cable are you using?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on January 21, 2010, 23:14
Wow!  :o Another Densen > Nordost > Dynaudio set up. Bro sjtan what Nordost cable are you using?

You better don't ask, the more you ask you more start to sweat :'( Frey speaker cable
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: sjtan on January 21, 2010, 23:15
Wow!  :o Another Densen > Nordost > Dynaudio set up. Bro sjtan what Nordost cable are you using?
I'm using Nordost Frey speaker cables for the Focus 110 and Red Dawn for 200C.
Power cords are Nordost Magus from wall to power centre and also pre amp. Vishnu for CDP and Shiva for power amp. Interconnects are Heimdal from CDP to pre amp and Frey from pre amp to power amp.  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on January 21, 2010, 23:16
stealth, sjtan, ur setups all sibei fierce one...all full Dyns + full Nordost.. ;D ;D

Bopian eh....ai hor si ani kuan eh ;D ;D ;D

Hahahaha.....
Title: Re: OCOS cable vs Others ?
Post by: nic_wei on January 21, 2010, 23:37
OCOS is well recommended by Dynaudio for their neutrality with low impedance. Good smooth mids & highs but bass is alittle shy. For those who wants abit more slam can try double the cables. Hmmm...as for price....not cheap...$139/m :P
Bro Nic,
$139/m ??? If I need 2m, I have to pay 2 x 2m x $139/m = $556, right?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: nic_wei on January 21, 2010, 23:40
I'm using Nordost Frey speaker cables for the Focus 110 and Red Dawn for 200C.
Power cords are Nordost Magus from wall to power centre and also pre amp. Vishnu for CDP and Shiva for power amp. Interconnects are Heimdal from CDP to pre amp and Frey from pre amp to power amp.  ;D
:o :o :o
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: rahul on January 21, 2010, 23:41
Yoz Bro Stealth!! I am here but have been very quiet.
You beat me to it. But this picture is outdated liao. Hehehe.
Spot the difference...
(http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j297/i_mel69/Set-up.jpg)

Dynaudio Focus 110, 200C, Audience 42 & SUB300
Densen B200 & 300XS
Modded CA640 CDP
Nordost Magus, Shiva & Vishnu Power Cords / Frey & Red Dawn (Centre)Speaker Cables / Frey & Heimdal ICs / PS Audio Duet Power Centre / Finite Elemente Ceraball Universal & Nordost Titanium Pulsar Points.

You updated your rug as well.  ;D

Those Nordost speaker cables look really nice.
Very tempted to go for them !!! But very $$$$$

Are Nordost low end models also decent in that price range?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: sjtan on January 21, 2010, 23:46
You updated your rug as well.  ;D

Those Nordost speaker cables look really nice.
Very tempted to go for them !!! But very $$$$$

Are Nordost low end models also decent in that price range?
Oh ya, the rug as well..  ;D
Well, all the Nordost cables I am using are actually from the mid end range. The cheapest so far are the Magus power cords as they are from thier lower end WyreWizard series.
Nordost series range from WyreWizard, Flatline, Norse, Reference and Supreme Reference.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on January 21, 2010, 23:47
Wtb Focus 200C anyone selling? Give you all a chance to upgrade Contour or Confidence center  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: sjtan on January 21, 2010, 23:54
Wtb Focus 200C anyone selling? Give you all a chance to upgrade Contour or Confidence center  ;D
Bro DJQ, cannot cannot... 200C and Contour / Confidence price gap too wide. Besides, main speakers are only Focus 110.  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: nic_wei on January 21, 2010, 23:59
This is very poisonous thread. :-X
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: sjtan on January 22, 2010, 00:04
This is very poisonous thread. :-X
INDEED !!  :'(
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on January 22, 2010, 00:07
Hahaha  ;D just tought I ask mah. You never know someone looking to change. Things dun happen overnight. I got my b&w F/C/R 1shot. For Dyn cannot cannot. Gotta get them in stages.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: sjtan on January 22, 2010, 00:15
Hahaha  ;D just tought I ask mah. You never know someone looking to change. Things dun happen overnight. I got my b&w F/C/R 1shot. For Dyn cannot cannot. Gotta get them in stages.
Haha.. Same same lah. I was formerly using Dyn 52SE with 122C, then one fine day itchy backside, tested a pair of Focus 110 then dun know how come it came into my house??? Hehe.. Only not too long ago I sold away the 122C and got the 200C to complete the collection.  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on January 22, 2010, 00:23
Wah you are as poisonous yourself. Sharing your upgrading process.  :o
had originally wanted to get excite for HT. Now I dunno........
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: sjtan on January 22, 2010, 00:26
Wah you are as poisonous yourself. Sharing your upgrading process.  :o
had originally wanted to get excite for HT. Now I dunno........
What to do?? Kena poison then bo pian lor.. Cannot live with the poisoned consience. ;) Actually Excite series for HT very good already... Also good for audio if one is not too fussy about the minor details.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: venturer on January 22, 2010, 00:37

ok well, i'm also a Dyn owner, but speakers are kept in the carton. Just now I took 1 out, do some cleaning, took this photo and
have to pack it back. Can't use speakers set-up now. Temporary I listen to headphone. :-\


(http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/9756/img0053.jpg)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on January 22, 2010, 00:45
Wah power leh. Buy Dyn to keep in box.
just found out this is a Contour 1.3 SE wah good leh you all... buy SE to keep.  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: nic_wei on January 22, 2010, 00:49
Wah power leh. Buy Dyn to keep in box.
Got time can take out clean clean then keep. Cleaning also can enjoy mah.  :P
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: rahul on January 22, 2010, 01:31
ok well, i'm also a Dyn owner, but speakers are kept in the carton. Just now I took 1 out, do some cleaning, took this photo and
have to pack it back. Can't use speakers set-up now. Temporary I listen to headphone. :-\


(http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/9756/img0053.jpg)


Speaker looks in pristine condition.
Never used before?  Maybe lend to some bro who will take it for a ride  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: rko on January 22, 2010, 02:09
Seems like most bro here using the Dyanaudios home range. No love for the studios monitors? ;) ;)

(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj176/samloi/DSC00300.jpg)

Transport:Sony X5000
Dac:Benchmark DAC1
Pre-amp:Bryston BP20
Power-amp: Odyssey Stratos
Speakers: Dyanudio Acoustic BM6P
Cables:mix and match
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: rahul on January 22, 2010, 02:13
An interesting writeup about C1 paired with Xindak..

http://www.goodsound.com/features/2008_12_01.htm
Quote
In the Xindak room a company representative eagerly pointed out that the 85dB-efficient Dynaudio Confidence C1 speakers ($6500/pair) in use were being powered by Xindak’s 12.5Wpc MT-1 integrated tube amp ($649.95). During my brief listen I determined two things about this system. First, there was no audible indication that the little amp was having any trouble driving the Dynaudios at average listening volume. Second, the amp and associated Xindak Muse Deluxe 1.0 CD player ($1149 introductory price) sounded quite good. Yes, using such expensive speakers with inexpensive components can make the latter sound better than they might with cheaper speakers, but the reverse is also true: expensive speakers can ruthlessly expose poor amplification and sources. In the Xindak room, neither phenomenon seemed to be at play. Instead, Xindak seemed out to prove that high performance is not the sole province of expensive electronics.
(http://www.goodsound.com/features/pics/200812_xindak_800w.jpg)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Quest on January 22, 2010, 03:42
Oh ya, the rug as well..  ;D
Well, all the Nordost cables I am using are actually from the mid end range. The cheapest so far are the Magus power cords as they are from thier lower end WyreWizard series.
Nordost series range from WyreWizard, Flatline, Norse, Reference and Supreme Reference.
bro, any comments on the heimdall vs frey speaker cable? :) i guess you had auditioned their full range.
the heimdalls are out of stock so i can't home trial for now, but i have heard the freys at home.

u are too humble to say C1 is out of your range with those sort of cabling. ;D

An interesting writeup about C1 paired with Xindak..
bro, that picture looks as though they are running the dynaudios with the xindak monoblocks? (i'm looking at the white speaker wiring)
or am i seeing wrongly? the black MT-1 infront doesn't look hooked up.
personally i heard the xindak before, but still not sure on how competent they really are versus the big boys although nobody can doubt they are value for money.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on January 22, 2010, 08:09
ok well, i'm also a Dyn owner, but speakers are kept in the carton. Just now I took 1 out, do some cleaning, took this photo and
have to pack it back. Can't use speakers set-up now. Temporary I listen to headphone. :-\


(http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/9756/img0053.jpg)


Bro venturer,

Nice and well kept conditions Bird's eyes maple 1.3SE :D My advise to you don't keep the speaker in storage too long, the speaker will have problem especially the drivers due to humidity weather here. Best is occassionally play it or else getting replacements drivers is expensives.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on January 22, 2010, 08:20
Haha.. Same same lah. I was formerly using Dyn 52SE with 122C, then one fine day itchy backside, tested a pair of Focus 110 then dun know how come it came into my house??? Hehe.. Only not too long ago I sold away the 122C and got the 200C to complete the collection.  ;D

Thinking of it, really funny when you post the 52SE for sale, someone mati mati wants it and even offer slightly higher pricein order to get it ;D ;D ;D
He said, "If I offer you this price, i can come straight away to get it"  ;D ;D you remember who rite? hahaha...speakers sold within 5mins 8)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: viper1912 on January 22, 2010, 09:42
wah piang....52SE sold within 5 minutes...this must b a real dyn fan......

No wonder kin kin grab the 110 ......sjtan....so bila nak covert 110 to C1 ?

I'm sure got ready buyer..................
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: marduk on January 22, 2010, 09:56
Hi all,
Another dyn user sign-in. I am using a 52SE for stereo...It is good to see that there are a number of dyn users out there!! Keep it going!! Cheers, :D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Bono on January 22, 2010, 10:04
Miss my 1.3SE...  :'(

bro domj, do u miss them too?  ;D

ok well, i'm also a Dyn owner, but speakers are kept in the carton. Just now I took 1 out, do some cleaning, took this photo and
have to pack it back. Can't use speakers set-up now. Temporary I listen to headphone. :-\


(http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/9756/img0053.jpg)

Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: domj on January 22, 2010, 10:36
Miss my 1.3SE...  :'(

bro domj, do u miss them too?  ;D


Bro, seeing this makes me sentimental  :'( But it had provided us yrs of musical enjoyment lah.  At least HT still using Dyns . ;)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on January 22, 2010, 11:08
wah you guyz long history of owning dynaudio leh. come come, weekend go down buy another monitor spk. got Excite X12/X16, Focus 110/140, Contour 1.4, Confidence C1 choose 1 set and buy  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Bono on January 22, 2010, 11:18
Bro, seeing this makes me sentimental  :'( But it had provided us yrs of musical enjoyment lah.  At least HT still using Dyns . ;)

yah... should be fixing up soon...

so when u posting ur setup pics?   ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on January 22, 2010, 11:20
wah you guyz long history of owning dynaudio leh. come come, weekend go down buy another monitor spk. got Excite X12/X16, Focus 110/140, Contour 1.4, Confidence C1 choose 1 set and buy  ;D

And all billed to bro DJQ  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Bono on January 22, 2010, 11:34
And all billed to bro DJQ  ;D

so welfare ah!!  thanks in advance!!  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: sty on January 22, 2010, 12:04
I want to buy dyn floorstander. But must wait for my bonus in April. Afraid that my bonus also not enough to buy 1 pair. :)
Anyone want to trade up n sell their 52 or 52se? Wanna buy a pair to try in my pleasure room. Too lazy n don't want to shift my existing pair there to try.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on January 22, 2010, 12:11
And all billed to bro DJQ  ;D

wah winz... i  :-X liao...
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on January 22, 2010, 12:19
I want to buy dyn floorstander. But must wait for my bonus in April. Afraid that my bonus also not enough to buy 1 pair. :)
Anyone want to trade up n sell their 52 or 52se? Wanna buy a pair to try in my pleasure room. Too lazy n don't want to shift my existing pair there to try.

There's a pair of Audience 122 for sale.. ;)

http://www.audioline-hifi.com/home/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=72&category_id=34&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=50

Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: sty on January 22, 2010, 12:28
I dunno how to see or wat but I can't see the asking price. Anyway thanks for the heads up bro.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: venturer on January 22, 2010, 12:30
Bro venturer,

Nice and well kept conditions Bird's eyes maple 1.3SE :D My advise to you don't keep the speaker in storage too long, the speaker will have problem especially the drivers due to humidity weather here. Best is occassionally play it or else getting replacements drivers is expensives.


hehee.. that's not 1.3SE... it's a Special 25

Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: nic_wei on January 22, 2010, 12:39

hehee.. that's not 1.3SE... it's a Special 25


Special 25  8)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: xerox on January 22, 2010, 12:40
And all billed to bro DJQ  ;D

Good idea, billed to Bro DJQ....i want a C1, bro DJQ i will give my 110 to you.  :P :P :P
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Bono on January 22, 2010, 12:54

hehee.. that's not 1.3SE... it's a Special 25



Special 25 to keep in store... what else do you have in your store room??  ;)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: hca2 on January 22, 2010, 13:15
hi guys is there MO for dyns? or save some cash and after few months we gang together go dyns shop and buy same time get more discount.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on January 22, 2010, 13:21
Good idea, billed to Bro DJQ....i want a C1, bro DJQ i will give my 110 to you.  :P :P :P

 :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on January 22, 2010, 14:02
hi guys is there MO for dyns? or save some cash and after few months we gang together go dyns shop and buy same time get more discount.

For MO, minium quantity needed will be a container load ;D ;D or else standard discount given only  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: rahul on January 22, 2010, 14:10
hi guys is there MO for dyns? or save some cash and after few months we gang together go dyns shop and buy same time get more discount.

Don't wait for MO...buy now before the Dynaudio prices go up. If they havent gone up already !
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on January 22, 2010, 15:22
For MO, minium quantity needed will be a container load ;D ;D or else standard discount given only  ;D ;D

wah 1 Container load huh. steady i start consolidating orders  ;D plus full payment hor. must be CASH. no credit card.

just kidding... :P
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: sjtan on January 22, 2010, 22:32
wah piang....52SE sold within 5 minutes...this must b a real dyn fan......

No wonder kin kin grab the 110 ......sjtan....so bila nak covert 110 to C1 ?

I'm sure got ready buyer..................
Sorry Abang... Focus 110 NOT FOR SALE.. If I upgrade my main speakers in future, the 110 will be used as rear speakers.. I may then sell my Audience 42.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: sjtan on January 22, 2010, 22:33
Thinking of it, really funny when you post the 52SE for sale, someone mati mati wants it and even offer slightly higher pricein order to get it ;D ;D ;D
He said, "If I offer you this price, i can come straight away to get it"  ;D ;D you remember who rite? hahaha...speakers sold within 5mins 8)
Hahaha.. Of course I remember. Die die want it so badly, I dun know why leh..
Really sold in 5 minutes..  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: sjtan on January 22, 2010, 22:45
bro, any comments on the heimdall vs frey speaker cable? :) i guess you had auditioned their full range.
the heimdalls are out of stock so i can't home trial for now, but i have heard the freys at home.

u are too humble to say C1 is out of your range with those sort of cabling. ;D
bro, that picture looks as though they are running the dynaudios with the xindak monoblocks? (i'm looking at the white speaker wiring)
or am i seeing wrongly? the black MT-1 infront doesn't look hooked up.
personally i heard the xindak before, but still not sure on how competent they really are versus the big boys although nobody can doubt they are value for money.
No, I did not audition the full range, fotunately or else the intensity of the poison injection will get stronger and stronger ;D Well, Heimdal speaker cables give more air and sparkle to the sound whereas Frey sounds more full bodied and richer and has a lower noise floor. Both are as fast and transparent sounding.
It actually depends on your setup and matching to your system and also according to your own preference. I really would love to own a pair of C1s but can't afford as my funds have gone into those Nordost cables.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on January 22, 2010, 22:47
Sorry Abang... Focus 110 NOT FOR SALE.. If I upgrade my main speakers in future, the 110 will be used as rear speakers..

Good idea! Slooooowly wait ah bro viper1912 or man-man-tan, tan-ku-ju-wu  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: domj on January 23, 2010, 21:25
Finally got around to taking a pic  :)

(http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/3599/img0005ti.jpg) (http://img192.imageshack.us/i/img0005ti.jpg/)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on January 23, 2010, 22:50
Wow  :o Sui leh! Nice & simple setup...
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: noinimod on January 23, 2010, 23:18
domj: Lovely setup. Did you manage to get the probs sorted out with hsu research?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Quest on January 24, 2010, 02:15
Visited bro stealth earlier today to understand all the 'hype' about his C1 setup.. :) Thanks to his hospitality.
His setup is forward sounding and projects a relatively large soundstage assisted by the diffusers, giving me a 'first row' feel especially for live music. Bass was well controlled and rather impressive for a bookshelf. Overall well balanced with the tone of the densens coming into play in what I feel is the only subjectivity in what I would say is one of the most enjoyable bookshelf setup I have heard so far.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on January 24, 2010, 08:36
Visited bro stealth earlier today to understand all the 'hype' about his C1 setup.. :) Thanks to his hospitality.
His setup is forward sounding and projects a relatively large soundstage assisted by the diffusers, giving me a 'first row' feel especially for live music. Bass was well controlled and rather impressive for a bookshelf. Overall well balanced with the tone of the densens coming into play in what I feel is the only subjectivity in what I would say is one of the most enjoyable bookshelf setup I have heard so far.

Hey bro Quest, don't mention it man..just hope you and your gf enjoy it.  :D I also learned alot from you guys, good to exchange different points of views from each other's knowledge.  :D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: domj on January 24, 2010, 10:27
domj: Lovely setup. Did you manage to get the probs sorted out with hsu research?

Thanks. Prob with hsu research ??? Got no prob leh...
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on January 24, 2010, 13:45
Hi

Would anyone here able to share or give some adivse, which Int amp or pre/power amp setup that suit the C1 or Sapphire 30th Anniv speaker well

Given the choice like Pass Labs, : McIntosh, Jeff Roland, Krell, ML or any other suggestion. Let say budget S$10K.

The digitial source is a Wadia CDP.

I am considering a Mclitosh MC501 power and a Mclitosh Pre (not sure what model). Is Mclitosh works well with Dynaudio C1 or other Dynaudio speakers?

Any suggestion and comment?

Thank you
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: rahul on January 24, 2010, 13:48
Hi

Would anyone here able to share or give some adivse, which Int amp or pre/power amp setup that suit the C1 or Sapphire 30th Anniv speaker well

Given the choice like Pass Labs, : McIntosh, Jeff Roland, Krell, ML or any other suggestion. Let say budget S$10K.

The digitial source is a Wadia CDP.

I am considering a Mclitosh MC501 power and a Mclitosh Pre (not sure what model). Is Mclitosh works well with Dynaudio C1 or other Dynaudio speakers?

Any suggestion and comment?

Thank you

From what I read around the net...McIntosh + Dynaudio isnt a good match. Krell is well recommended.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: abc on January 24, 2010, 14:04
I would go for ML or Passlab if i wanna pair it with the C1. Heard C1 pair with ML & Passlab before with good result.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: nic_wei on January 24, 2010, 14:45
Hi

Would anyone here able to share or give some adivse, which Int amp or pre/power amp setup that suit the C1 or Sapphire 30th Anniv speaker well

Given the choice like Pass Labs, : McIntosh, Jeff Roland, Krell, ML or any other suggestion. Let say budget S$10K.

The digitial source is a Wadia CDP.

I am considering a Mclitosh MC501 power and a Mclitosh Pre (not sure what model). Is Mclitosh works well with Dynaudio C1 or other Dynaudio speakers?

Any suggestion and comment?

Thank you
Densen B250 + B330? Available @ Dynaudio show room. ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: domj on January 24, 2010, 15:18
Hi

Would anyone here able to share or give some adivse, which Int amp or pre/power amp setup that suit the C1 or Sapphire 30th Anniv speaker well

Given the choice like Pass Labs, : McIntosh, Jeff Roland, Krell, ML or any other suggestion. Let say budget S$10K.

The digitial source is a Wadia CDP.

I am considering a Mclitosh MC501 power and a Mclitosh Pre (not sure what model). Is Mclitosh works well with Dynaudio C1 or other Dynaudio speakers?

Any suggestion and comment?

Thank you

Bro, what is it that you find lacking in your Plinius ? I would say the Macs, Pass Labs n JF is closer to the Plinius sound.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on January 24, 2010, 16:58
Bro, what is it that you find lacking in your Plinius ? I would say the Macs, Pass Labs n JF is closer to the Plinius sound.

To me, Plinius pre/power is good match with C1. When I heard my firend setup, JF500+C1. Compare it with my Pliniius, I found something is still missing. I am planning to upgrade my pre/power.

Besides Phinius, what other solid state amp is suitable for C1, C2 or Sapphire 30 Annvi.  It is difficult to go to audit the different amp at the show room. The overall setup might be different.

I am looking for a pre/power amp to replace the Plinius.

Thank you
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on January 24, 2010, 17:58
Hi

Would anyone here able to share or give some adivse, which Int amp or pre/power amp setup that suit the C1 or Sapphire 30th Anniv speaker well

Given the choice like Pass Labs, : McIntosh, Jeff Roland, Krell, ML or any other suggestion. Let say budget S$10K.

The digitial source is a Wadia CDP.

I am considering a Mclitosh MC501 power and a Mclitosh Pre (not sure what model). Is Mclitosh works well with Dynaudio C1 or other Dynaudio speakers?

Any suggestion and comment?

Thank you

Given your budget of $10k, you're not going to make big difference from changing your existing pre/pwr. Personally I would advise you to just upgrade your pre to maybe the higherend pre from Plinius Tautoro and use with your power. And with your Wadia cdp combi this will be you to another league level.
I seldom hear Mac partner with Dyns ???
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: shsoh on January 24, 2010, 18:50
Would anyone be keen in my Ayre K1xe with phono?
Drop me a note if you are. 

Note: You really need to use balanced connections with this.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: fx on January 24, 2010, 19:01
To me, Plinius pre/power is good match with C1. When I heard my firend setup, JF500+C1. Compare it with my Pliniius, I found something is still missing. I am planning to upgrade my pre/power..
Thank you

Bro, Good hifi rack and tweak like isolation devices can improve further and  make such a huge difference. ::)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Quest on January 24, 2010, 20:44
To me, Plinius pre/power is good match with C1. When I heard my firend setup, JF500+C1. Compare it with my Pliniius, I found something is still missing. I am planning to upgrade my pre/power.
what is missing? i think you need to be more specific so that we can help
i agree with stealth here that changing pre/power of the same budget may not be of a major upgrade to you..
perhaps what you are missing is something obtainable from tweaks/cabling?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: ilovepanerai on January 24, 2010, 20:52
To me, Plinius pre/power is good match with C1. When I heard my firend setup, JF500+C1. Compare it with my Pliniius, I found something is still missing. I am planning to upgrade my pre/power.


Ermm....maybe get the Jeff Rowland 500??
About 12k i think?
Unless you want different sound but with what the JR 500 could do.

Cheers
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on January 24, 2010, 23:26
Given your budget of $10k, you're not going to make big difference from changing your existing pre/pwr. Personally I would advise you to just upgrade your pre to maybe the higherend pre from Plinius Tautoro and use with your power. And with your Wadia cdp combi this will be you to another league level.
I seldom hear Mac partner with Dyns ???

Hi

Following are some examples of how Dynaudio speakers setup with other equipement. Taken from another web site...Hope it is ok..

Mac are quite popular choice to match with Dynaudilo speaker in some area....

(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/clitang/C1ver4.jpg)
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/clitang/C1ver7.jpg)
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/clitang/C1ver3.jpg)
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/clitang/C1ver2.jpg)



Dyna S25 << TacT M2150 << Esoteric P2S
Dyna C1<<Jeff Rowland continuum500<<Burmester 061
Dyna Focus140<<Accuphase E308<<Cambridge Audio 640 V2
Dyna S1.4<<PS AUDIO GCC250<<Audia Flight CD ONE
Dyna C2 << full set mark levinson 32 + 33H +31.5 + 30.6 << Sony SCD-1 << Wadia I-Transport
Dyna Facette<<Ben&David 8L+80<<Audio note DAC2.1X Sig.<<Teac 25X
Dyna S1.4 < < Krell 300iL < < CEC 51XZ
Dyna C2< <Mark Levinson320s+431< <Esoteric X-03se
Dyna DM 2/10< <Mclntosh MA6900< <Yamaha S2000
Dynaudio Focus 110< < Goldmund 330 < < Goldmund SRCD2
Dyna S3.4 < < Luxman 550A < < Accuphase Dp 500
Dyna C1 < sphinx project 18 < sphinx project 8 < Oracle CD550
Dyna Focus 140 << Luxman 550AII << Yamaha CD-S1000
Dyna C1 < < Ayre K1xe & V1xe < < Esoteric SA60
Dyna acoustics Air20< CEC TLo-x
Dynaudio BM6a MKII < < Benchmark DAC1 Pre
Dyna C1 << JBL 6260 << Mcintosh C2200 << Esoteric SA60
Dyna Sapphire< < Sphinx Project 8+26< < Sphinx Project 32
C1 << Octave RK280 II << Audio Valve - Conductor << Micro Seiki 111
Dyna C1 << Gryphon diablo << Chord64 II << Esoteric-30X
Contour3.0<<Hovland 100w<<Ayre K1<<Meridien 566 D/A<<Classe CDP1
Dynaudio accoustics C2 << MBL 7008 << MBL1531
Dyna C1<<Jeff Rowland continuum500<<Electrocompaniet 1 up
Dyna C1<<Jeff Rowland continuum500<<Ensemble Dirondo
Dyna C1<<Lyngdorf 2200<<AudioAero capitole reference SE
Dyna S1.4<<Jeff Rowland Concerto Integrated<<Audia FlightCDOne
DynaS1.4 < < Naim NAP200 < < Naim NAC202 < < 靜音CAS
Dyna Focus 140<< Lyngdorf 2200<< MF A1 CD Pro
Dyna X16<<full set Cambridge Audio 840E十840W十840C
Dyna Focus 140 << mbl 7008 << aqvox dac << cec TL51X
Dyna s.1.4 < < Audio Space 6i (EL34) < < AVM Evolution CD 3
Contour 3.0 << MF Trivista Int.<< MF Nuvista CDP
Dyna C1 << Gryphon 2200 << Gryphon ADAGIO
Dyna 1.3se << Rowland 302 << Rowland Concerto Pre << Onkyo cdp
Sapphire << Pass Labs 350.5 << Mark Levinson 326s << Esoteric X-03se
Dyna S1.4 < < MF A3.2 < < CEC 51XZ
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: abc on January 24, 2010, 23:39
Clitang there are many combination for C1 , please refer to this URL --


http://www.review33.com/avforum/index.php?topic=99080607221445&page=1


I think most important is you are enjoying the music that's all that matters, whos care bout "oh C1 can only pair with A brand of amp and B brand of CDP". I find sound is subjective, i still remember someone telling me if i wanna achieve best sound from B&W I need to drive it with Classe or Krell. I find all this is BS as we need to trial and error to know. There is no perfect combination nor wrong combination at all. It boil down if you like the sound and that is all that matters. Please pardon my poor command of english.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on January 24, 2010, 23:50
what is missing? i think you need to be more specific so that we can help
i agree with stealth here that changing pre/power of the same budget may not be of a major upgrade to you..
perhaps what you are missing is something obtainable from tweaks/cabling?

What is missing, difficult to say. Just like missing something. In summary , I would say it do not have the classic and "high class" tease. In Cantonese call "貴氣" which is missing.

For e.g. when listen to classical or Orchestra, not enough involvement and punch. When listen to instrumental, the depth and height is limited.

As some bros mentioned here might be right, some tweak might help and with 10K budget might not enough to make much changes.

I hate myself and I hate myself more......why not earn more money.......
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on January 24, 2010, 23:58
Clitang there are many combination for C1 , please refer to this URL --


http://www.review33.com/avforum/index.php?topic=99080607221445&page=1


I think most important is you are enjoying the music that's all that matters, whos care bout "oh C1 can only pair with A brand of amp and B brand of CDP". I find sound is subjective, i still remember someone telling me if i wanna achieve best sound from B&W I need to drive it with Classe or Krell. I find all this is BS as we need to trial and error to know. There is no perfect combination nor wrong combination at all. It boil down if you like the sound and that is all that matters. Please pardon my poor command of english.

Hi abc bro

Thank you.

I totally agreed with you.

I brought up this topic to discuss becuase it is difficult to audit Dynaudio with different setup. I have listened to different model which sounded very nice to me. Just not sure how is it match with C1. For e.g. I have heard Mac MC501 power amp and C220 pre amp with Focal BE speaker. The sound is good man!!!! A lot bros say Mac do not much well with Dynaudio. So just want to hear some bro here can share their experience.

Thank you
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: xerox on January 24, 2010, 23:59
What is missing, difficult to say. Just like missing something. In summary , I would say it do not have the classic and "high class" tease. In Cantonese call "貴氣" which is missing.

For e.g. when listen to classical or Orchestra, not enough involvement and punch. When listen to instrumental, the depth and height is limited.

As some bros mentioned here might be right, some tweak might help and with 10K budget might not enough to make much changes.

I hate myself and I hate myself more......why not earn more money.......

Bro, you had a very good setup which many of us cannot afford. I think the frustration about hifi is bout achieving the ideal sound, maybe can play with cable or tweak to see. I would love to have C1 but do not have a deep pocket and also if i upgrade i might open another can of worm as my existing source is pretty entry at the moment. ~Hai~ really money not enough .....
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Quest on January 25, 2010, 00:06
all this talk about money.. money doesn't necessarily solve anyone's hifi problems imo.

i have visited some folks who have spent more than 6 figures on their systems but yet still have not found their audio nirvana.. there are others who have spent mega bucks on their systems but with little result, versus others whose systems cost so much less, but yet sound better to my ear.. spent some time talking to stealth about this topic yesterday night so it is still fresh in my mind.

clitang, i sincerely hope you spend more time with your existing components and system rather than keep having the urge to upgrade components. cabling and tweaks do form a very strong part in making the system sound good imo, which some may neglect. but you must be prepared for the time needed to experiment. there is no quick solution..
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: seanyzf on January 25, 2010, 00:06
what to do? Everyone is having money not enough syndrome, that is y Singaporean favourite pass time is to invest in the weekly 4d. Hopefully next coming sat i got enough vitamin M for a Dynaudio shopping spree. lol
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: abc on January 25, 2010, 00:37
Well said Quest! I think important is knowing when to stop. For me my setup might not be the best but at least it sound good to my ear and this is all that matters. I would suggest Clitang to at least tweak with cable or perhaps try room acoustic. All of this help in fine tuning the setup.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on January 25, 2010, 00:40
guess the C1 is not for the faint hearted. i would need to have equally good equipment to hear what i heard in bro stealth setup.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on January 25, 2010, 00:45
Well said Quest! I think important is knowing when to stop. For me my setup might not be the best but at least it sound good to my ear and this is all that matters. I would suggest Clitang to at least tweak with cable or perhaps try room acoustic. All of this help in fine tuning the setup.

Hi Quest bro / abc bro

Thank you for your adivse. Cable is new cable, so can't do much.

As for room treatment, 2 x  bass trap and diffuser coming on the way. Let see how it goes....

What else?

Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: rahul on January 25, 2010, 00:48
Interesting topic of conversation..

One thing I have realized that a lot of people with very good systems still tend to get the urge to upgrade after a few years.
In a lot of cases its not a deficiency in their system which pushes them to upgrade...its just that they have experienced listener fatigue.

After all we listen to our favourite music repeatedly. For eg... if I have listened to Dire Straits countless  times on my "very good" system there will come a time when I will just get bored of it.
Now if I listen to same song on someone elses "very good" setup...I will find it refreshing. I will tell myself its a deficiency in my system and I need to change.

When the bottomline is that the system is fine...its just that I got bored of my existing "house" sound and need something fresh.

Well thats my theory anyway .....

Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on January 25, 2010, 00:51
bro ciltang, advise you pop over bro stealth's place for a listen.(was your HK friend's C1 well run in too? being the same C1 see how far difference is his vs yours. i believe the C1 takes lots of run in hours to sound really "good" dun be so hasty. you did own the Thiels for a good 6yrs or so didnt you? the journey to perfection is always so interesting. for me my 2.4 is barely 1yr, and i am still looking for that "sound" & "feel".  :)

ah bro rahul is also technicially correct. most of the time we tend to define the change/difference to be better.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: sty on January 25, 2010, 01:02
Guess with the type of setup n money I spend here I guess I shouldn't even post a reply. But I just wanna say that Hifi is about enjoyment n relaxation. There is no ending to spending n the right music from any system but only when the listener or owner feel that this is right for him or her.
It will be a sad thing for Hifi when one have to start to hate himself for not earning enough to enjoy the hobby. Some setup here is probably something that I will never even be able to touch for my this lifetime so I should kill myself than (joking).
Nevertheless, while I still will admire the so $$ setup here, I will still be happily enjoying wat I can afford and never going to hate myself for not earning enough cos all the equipment that I own still is paid for by my petty salary.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: sjtan on January 25, 2010, 07:56
Guess with the type of setup n money I spend here I guess I shouldn't even post a reply. But I just wanna say that Hifi is about enjoyment n relaxation. There is no ending to spending n the right music from any system but only when the listener or owner feel that this is right for him or her.
It will be a sad thing for Hifi when one have to start to hate himself for not earning enough to enjoy the hobby. Some setup here is probably something that I will never even be able to touch for my this lifetime so I should kill myself than (joking).
Nevertheless, while I still will admire the so $$ setup here, I will still be happily enjoying wat I can afford and never going to hate myself for not earning enough cos all the equipment that I own still is paid for by my petty salary.
Well said bro.. Can't agree with you more!!  :)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Quest on January 25, 2010, 08:05
Thank you for your adivse. Cable is new cable, so can't do much.
care to share what cabling are you using?
how about isolation and power products?

not asking you to replace your cable immediately, but why not home trial some others and see if there is any difference? it is much easier than to home trial pre/power. if you are prepared to sink in $10k on changing pre/power, maybe u need to also be open minded to explore in this area.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on January 25, 2010, 08:31
Bro Clitang,

I think your too confuse or you can't really understand what you really need in your setup. Since both of us are using the same speaker I would like to invite you to listen to my setup although my setup is not as highend as yours :P But I believe it has some sound characterisics that you're looking for :D

By the way, how many hours have you click in the C1? Got more than 2/300hrs? If not, don't ever think of the upgrades ;)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: viper1912 on January 25, 2010, 09:15
Bro Clitang,

What bro Stealth saying is quite true. Got a fren of mine, earlier was using Usher BE-718, with Densen DM10 when I was in his place audition Nov of 2008 he told me yeah this is what I'm looking for. This is the sound that I want.

After 6 months  he fall in love with Harbeth P3ESR , (after reading the net, DM10 well match with Harbeth)  his BE-718 is up for sale. ( I guess not fully run in yet). Speaker cable n i/C are Chord.

After 2 months of using Harbeth, he told me is fully runs in (which i doubt so), and his DM10 sound is not the sound that he wanted. Thus was thinking to upgrade or down grade to QUAD pre n pwr. Earlier was using Chord speaker cable, which he read from net well match for Densen. Later he got a chance to try a very very old speaker cable Tara-Labs Temporal Continuum.

Now he say sound all transformed! May b is time to pay attention to the cables n accessories. I think your equipment is quite ok.
Just need to find the synergy matching of your equipment and speaker.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on January 25, 2010, 09:24
care to share what cabling are you using?
how about isolation and power products?

not asking you to replace your cable immediately, but why not home trial some others and see if there is any difference? it is much easier than to home trial pre/power. if you are prepared to sink in $10k on changing pre/power, maybe u need to also be open minded to explore in this area.

I am using

Cable :

1) Siltech G7 330L Speaker cable.
2) Siltech G7 330i RCA interconnect between Pre/power
3) Siltech G5 SQ28 XLR interconnect between CDP and Pre
4) Siltech G7 220i RCA interconnect between AV pro and Plinius Pre
5) Shunyata Mamba power cable for Pre amp
6) PS Audio perfect wave AC 5 for CDP
7) PS Audio Statment for Plinius power amp
8) All power cable is connect to PS Audio Power Plant 600

Room Treatment (Work In Progress - Not installed yet)
1) 2 x ASC 16" x 36" Tube bass traps
2) 6 pcs of 24" x 24" RPG B.A.D. Panal diffuser
3) 3 pcs of 12" x 48" Diffuser from bro joamonte

HiFi Rack
1) Currently using custom Made rack!!!
If I want to change the rack, I would like to get the Finite Elemente's Master serises rack (If I can affort). I think I will need 2 sets to house all my equipment.
http://www.stereophile.com/standsracks/206finite/# (http://www.stereophile.com/standsracks/206finite/#)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: sagibit on January 25, 2010, 09:25
Guess with the type of setup n money I spend here I guess I shouldn't even post a reply. But I just wanna say that Hifi is about enjoyment n relaxation. There is no ending to spending n the right music from any system but only when the listener or owner feel that this is right for him or her.
It will be a sad thing for Hifi when one have to start to hate himself for not earning enough to enjoy the hobby. Some setup here is probably something that I will never even be able to touch for my this lifetime so I should kill myself than (joking).
Nevertheless, while I still will admire the so $$ setup here, I will still be happily enjoying wat I can afford and never going to hate myself for not earning enough cos all the equipment that I own still is paid for by my petty salary.

Well said! It does not matter how much your setup cost. Main thing is that you must enjoy your audio.

clitang, since you like your frens setup in HK, why dont you take more time to save up and get something that is tried and tested? It may be more cost effective than keep changing components to find the sound that you like. In the meanwhile, you can always try to listen to different configurations and identify what is missing to help narrow down your search.

Alternatively, you may want to audition much simpler setup and then you may realize how much better your setup sounds :)    
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on January 25, 2010, 09:39
Bro Clitang,

I think your too confuse or you can't really understand what you really need in your setup. Since both of us are using the same speaker I would like to invite you to listen to my setup although my setup is not as highend as yours :P But I believe it has some sound characterisics that you're looking for :D

By the way, how many hours have you click in the C1? Got more than 2/300hrs? If not, don't ever think of the upgrades ;)

Hi Stealth bro

Thank you for your invitation. Will PM you to arrange.

My C1 has run in for about 250hrs. I am not thinking of upgrading the speakers (at least for now). I have fall in love with Dynaudio.

Please don't get me wrong. I am not complianting the C1 is not performing.To me, it is one of best monitor speaker that money can buy.

From start, I have plan to upgrade my whole system. I am just doing it slowly.

1) Frist I change my speaker to C1 - Done
2) Then I change the speaker cable and interconnects - Done
3) Then I change my CDP - (Sold my Marnantz CDP and waiting to get a replacment)
4) Now, I am in the next stage of my project. That is to change my pre/power. Therefore, I am auditing, checking, asking, surfing to find what is the best match.
5) The last step is to do some tweat - New rack, footers, cable holders, isolation board etc...and room treatment

Maybe the next step is to do somethng to my HT...( If I can...)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on January 25, 2010, 10:00
Well said! It does not matter how much your setup cost. Main thing is that you must enjoy your audio.

clitang, since you like your frens setup in HK, why dont you take more time to save up and get something that is tried and tested? It may be more cost effective than keep changing components to find the sound that you like. In the meanwhile, you can always try to listen to different configurations and identify what is missing to help narrow down your search.

Alternatively, you may want to audition much simpler setup and then you may realize how much better your setup sounds :)    

Hi All bro here

I really feel happy and want to say thank you to all the bro here who has given the advise and suggestion.

Yes, this is what I am doing now, audit different setup. Ask advise and suggestion from bro. If possbile do some house visit to listen to some home stup.....The aim is to seek the sound that I like.

I totally agreed that after all the money spend, effort, time. resources, arguing with CFO, sleepiness night, the ultimate is to enjoy music or movie. However, I guess in the process of doing all this, is a part of enjoyment also.

Let me share one web site, it is about one HiFi bro how he upgrade his HiFi and his experence. If you are interested and have the time, it is interesting to read....

http://www.review33.com/avforum/forum_message.php?topic=26080713012540 (http://www.review33.com/avforum/forum_message.php?topic=26080713012540)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: abc on January 25, 2010, 10:01
Clitang, be careful in selecting your source which i assume you haven't buy yet. After years of hifi i realized the key component of hifi is the CDP and Speaker. This are the 2 component that voice the overall sound, not much for amp IMHO. Thus do set yourself a good budget for your CDP, your amps/speaker are good. For IC i felt it is more for fine tuning.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: abc on January 25, 2010, 10:04
I am glad that you are reading stuff from review33.com , there is alot of interesting topic in there. I spend most of my time in the HK forum.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on January 25, 2010, 10:45
Hi all dynaudio bros, asking on behalf of my friend. he got a X12 recently and he is looking to get a integrated amp for a simple stereo bedroom setup. any recommendation with a $1.5k budget? thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: domj on January 25, 2010, 10:58
Clitang, I think once you get ur new cdp in place, then you can get a better feel of your system. If the cdp is a new set, then gotta break it in too. I think as u spend time with the system to understand what the new component is doing to the overall sound and evaluate what is missing, then perhaps u'll have a better idea before changing ur amps? In the meantime, be patient, relax and enjoy the music  ;)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: xerox on January 25, 2010, 11:52
Hi all dynaudio bros, asking on behalf of my friend. he got a X12 recently and he is looking to get a integrated amp for a simple stereo bedroom setup. any recommendation with a $1.5k budget? thanks in advance.

A used Naim Nait 5iV2 should fit the bill. He should be able to get it between 1.3K ~ 1.5k.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: francis woo on January 25, 2010, 12:07
I am using

Cable :

1) Siltech G7 330L Speaker cable.
2) Siltech G7 330i RCA interconnect between Pre/power
3) Siltech G5 SQ28 XLR interconnect between CDP and Pre
4) Siltech G7 220i RCA interconnect between AV pro and Plinius Pre
5) Shunyata Mamba power cable for Pre amp
6) PS Audio perfect wave AC 5 for CDP
7) PS Audio Statment for Plinius power amp
8) All power cable is connect to PS Audio Power Plant 600

Room Treatment (Work In Progress - Not installed yet)
1) 2 x ASC 16" x 36" Tube bass traps
2) 6 pcs of 24" x 24" RPG B.A.D. Panal diffuser
3) 3 pcs of 12" x 48" Diffuser from bro joamonte

HiFi Rack
1) Currently using custom Made rack!!!
If I want to change the rack, I would like to get the Finite Elemente's Master serises rack (If I can affort). I think I will need 2 sets to house all my equipment.
http://www.stereophile.com/standsracks/206finite/# (http://www.stereophile.com/standsracks/206finite/#)

Wow, I wud love to have all these!!!............. ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: vp171s on January 25, 2010, 13:36
Hi all dynaudio bros, asking on behalf of my friend. he got a X12 recently and he is looking to get a integrated amp for a simple stereo bedroom setup. any recommendation with a $1.5k budget? thanks in advance.

$1.5K for new or used ?

I'm an Exposure fan so for me any of these used would be great ...

Exposure X / XV (with phono) / XX / Super XV (with phono) / Super XX

Well under $1K for any of the above.

If new, can consider the 2010S (not the original 2010) which was rated by Stereophile in their class A recommendation list. Before discount is about $1.6 I think.

Positive reviews (for what they are worth)...
http://www.stereophile.com/integratedamps/1105exposure/
http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/exposure/exposure_2.html
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: marduk on January 25, 2010, 14:50
I am using

Cable :

1) Siltech G7 330L Speaker cable.
2) Siltech G7 330i RCA interconnect between Pre/power
3) Siltech G5 SQ28 XLR interconnect between CDP and Pre
4) Siltech G7 220i RCA interconnect between AV pro and Plinius Pre
5) Shunyata Mamba power cable for Pre amp
6) PS Audio perfect wave AC 5 for CDP
7) PS Audio Statment for Plinius power amp
8) All power cable is connect to PS Audio Power Plant 600

Room Treatment (Work In Progress - Not installed yet)
1) 2 x ASC 16" x 36" Tube bass traps
2) 6 pcs of 24" x 24" RPG B.A.D. Panal diffuser
3) 3 pcs of 12" x 48" Diffuser from bro joamonte

HiFi Rack
1) Currently using custom Made rack!!!
If I want to change the rack, I would like to get the Finite Elemente's Master serises rack (If I can affort). I think I will need 2 sets to house all my equipment.
http://www.stereophile.com/standsracks/206finite/# (http://www.stereophile.com/standsracks/206finite/#)
Hi bro Clitang,
What a bunch of cables you have!! First of all you need to know what sort of sound you are after. Do you want more warmth, soundstage, transparency from your system? The best bet is to audition the equipment with your own system. I believe with your budget, you could negotiate for a home audition. Have you thought of the brystons, ayre or naim? I would love to own a C1, but is beyond my budget and since you are a proud owner of the C1, I wish you could also reap the best sound from it or perhaps invite me for a listen to your C1? hehe.. ;) take your time...Happy hunting...
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on January 25, 2010, 18:53
Hi bro Clitang,
What a bunch of cables you have!! First of all you need to know what sort of sound you are after. Do you want more warmth, soundstage, transparency from your system? The best bet is to audition the equipment with your own system. I believe with your budget, you could negotiate for a home audition. Have you thought of the brystons, ayre or naim? I would love to own a C1, but is beyond my budget and since you are a proud owner of the C1, I wish you could also reap the best sound from it or perhaps invite me for a listen to your C1? hehe.. ;) take your time...Happy hunting...

Thank you.

Before I purchase the Siltech cable. I have audited the Kimber select and Transparent Ultra speaker. Siltech is more suitable for C1 and Plinius. It is fast, accurate and transparent.

My option is open. Still seeking for the right amp/pre to blend into my current system. I notice that are some bro are using Ayre with Dynaudio speaker.

 
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on January 26, 2010, 01:25
A used Naim Nait 5iV2 should fit the bill. He should be able to get it between 1.3K ~ 1.5k.

$1.5K for new or used ?

I'm an Exposure fan so for me any of these used would be great ...

Exposure X / XV (with phono) / XX / Super XV (with phono) / Super XX

Well under $1K for any of the above.

If new, can consider the 2010S (not the original 2010) which was rated by Stereophile in their class A recommendation list. Before discount is about $1.6 I think.

Positive reviews (for what they are worth)...
http://www.stereophile.com/integratedamps/1105exposure/
http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/exposure/exposure_2.html

thanks bro xerox & vp171s, i am not familiar with your recommendations. anyway have informed my friend. looking at new set. he's got a small requirement, he wants to play music off his PC. i did suggest BC S300iu but he is not a Class D lover, so next was a Cyrus 8xp d which is clearly over his budget if there is a usb input.  want this want that but limited budget. i also dunno liao.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Quest on January 26, 2010, 04:32
Before I purchase the Siltech cable. I have audited the Kimber select and Transparent Ultra speaker. Siltech is more suitable for C1 and Plinius. It is fast, accurate and transparent.

My option is open. Still seeking for the right amp/pre to blend into my current system. I notice that are some bro are using Ayre with Dynaudio speaker.
kimber and transparent are in a different school versus siltech in terms of character, so if u prefer fast, accurate and transparent u need not look at those brands. :) i guess nordost is fairly commonly used with dynaudio here, which give these characteristics as well.. so far i find black sand power cords and slinkylinks to have similar attributes.

btw just wondering, any reason why u use RCA from pre to power, but XLR from cdp to pre?

no idea about the sound of ps audio exactly, so cannot really comment on your existing setup just from specs. hope someone else can help you. however, what i found so far is that the warmer sounding cord (e.g. ur shunyata?) should be placed either on dac or power, whereas the pre could use with a more dynamic sounding cord. maybe can try swapping around to see if any difference, since it is free.

i personally do not like the sound of ayre, but since it is available for home trial from Norman, why not give it a try?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on January 26, 2010, 08:31
kimber and transparent are in a different school versus siltech in terms of character, so if u prefer fast, accurate and transparent u need not look at those brands. :) i guess nordost is fairly commonly used with dynaudio here, which give these characteristics as well.. so far i find black sand power cords and slinkylinks to have similar attributes.

btw just wondering, any reason why u use RCA from pre to power, but XLR from cdp to pre?

no idea about the sound of ps audio exactly, so cannot really comment on your existing setup just from specs. hope someone else can help you. however, what i found so far is that the warmer sounding cord (e.g. ur shunyata?) should be placed either on dac or power, whereas the pre could use with a more dynamic sounding cord. maybe can try swapping around to see if any difference, since it is free.

i personally do not like the sound of ayre, but since it is available for home trial from Norman, why not give it a try?

Hi Quest Bro

I use RCA from pre to power becuase there are some limitation of the Plinius M8 pre amp. I need to connect HT bypass from my AV Processor to M8 Pre using RCA, but the pre amp ONLY allow RCA output to power amp when "HT Bypass" is selected. In another word, when "HT ByPass" is selected, XLR output to power amp is not working.

The Shunyata Mamba power cord is mainly for digitial source or pre. This model is not meant for power amp. I would try to swap the power cord around. The first step is to connect the Shunyata Mamba to the CDP.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: marduk on January 26, 2010, 09:37
Thank you.

Before I purchase the Siltech cable. I have audited the Kimber select and Transparent Ultra speaker. Siltech is more suitable for C1 and Plinius. It is fast, accurate and transparent.

My option is open. Still seeking for the right amp/pre to blend into my current system. I notice that are some bro are using Ayre with Dynaudio speaker.

 
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I find that the Ayre amplifiers has a slightly dry and forward character. However, their KXR preamp on the contrary is neutral, balanced and sweet (wish I could afford!  :(). I am using an Ayre player and after the MP upgrade, the sound is much sweeter. Not sure about their amps though. Krell on the other hand, will be having a wide soundstage, revealing and digs lots of detail. Depending on individual taste, you will either love or hate it...IMHO, I notice the dynaudio house sound is slightly bright, therefore equipment selection will need to steer away from lean sounding electronics...
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: rahul on January 26, 2010, 12:15
I notice the dynaudio house sound is slightly bright, therefore equipment selection will need to steer away from lean sounding electronics...

I wouldnt agree with that. Dynaudio itself wouldn't be bright....unless your source or amplification is.
Infact thats one of the big things that I like about Dynaudio sound.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: fff on January 26, 2010, 13:31
Clitang, be careful in selecting your source which i assume you haven't buy yet. After years of hifi i realized the key component of hifi is the CDP and Speaker. This are the 2 component that voice the overall sound, not much for amp IMHO. Thus do set yourself a good budget for your CDP, your amps/speaker are good. For IC i felt it is more for fine tuning.

Spot On !
I felt very much the same.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: shsoh on January 26, 2010, 18:33
Thank you.

Before I purchase the Siltech cable. I have audited the Kimber select and Transparent Ultra speaker. Siltech is more suitable for C1 and Plinius. It is fast, accurate and transparent.

My option is open. Still seeking for the right amp/pre to blend into my current system. I notice that are some bro are using Ayre with Dynaudio speaker.

 

I find that the Ayre amplifiers has a slightly dry and forward character. However, their KXR preamp on the contrary is neutral, balanced and sweet (wish I could afford!  :(). I am using an Ayre player and after the MP upgrade, the sound is much sweeter. Not sure about their amps though. Krell on the other hand, will be having a wide soundstage, revealing and digs lots of detail. Depending on individual taste, you will either love or hate it...IMHO, I notice the dynaudio house sound is slightly bright, therefore equipment selection will need to steer away from lean sounding electronics...

I have to disagree with you on your Ayre observation and esepcially since you are already using a Ayre CDP. Which model is that? On what setup did you audition the Ayre amps with?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on January 26, 2010, 18:52
Spot On !
I felt very much the same.

Yes, The source is very importrant. I have put my hands on the Wadia 581se. I have audited Esoteric SA-50, Marantz SA11S2, Wadia 581se and PS Audio Perfect Wave.  I like the Wadia 581se. Guess it would match well with the Dynaudio and Plinius.



Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: seanyzf on January 26, 2010, 21:25
Have you audit Ayon CD1s yet? Maybe can consider if u like tube cdp. 
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: sound_wave on January 26, 2010, 22:24
Here's my very simple setup. Right now I'm only using my speaker with my home theatre. Still deciding what amp to use with my Dyns.

(http://www.labexperimenta.com/sel_images/dynaudio_setup.jpg)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: sty on January 26, 2010, 23:52
Here's my very simple setup. Right now I'm only using my speaker with my home theatre. Still deciding what amp to use with my Dyns.

(http://www.labexperimenta.com/sel_images/dynaudio_setup.jpg)

Very nice looking Focus 110. I guess this will be my next Dynaudio that I will be aiming to get.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Starboard on January 27, 2010, 01:32
Hello!

Well, I would like to ask some advice about my stereo system:

Simaudio Moon i-1 integrated amp
Simaudio Moon CD-1 player
Dynaudio Excite x32 speakers
OCOS Ultra speaker cable
Cardas Cross interconnect
Shunyata Diamondback power cable on CD-1

1) Do you think that x32 needs more watts to get best out of them ( i-1 50w/8ohm; 100w/4ohm)
2) Wich IC and speaker cable should I use - Cardas Cross is not so open and detailed but adds warmth
3) I would like to hear any other suggestion

Thanks!
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: rahul on January 27, 2010, 01:50
Hello!

Well, I would like to ask some advice about my stereo system:

Simaudio Moon i-1 integrated amp
Simaudio Moon CD-1 player
Dynaudio Excite x32 speakers
OCOS Ultra speaker cable
Cardas Cross interconnect
Shunyata Diamondback power cable on CD-1

1) Do you think that x32 needs more watts to get best out of them ( i-1 50w/8ohm; 100w/4ohm)
2) Wich IC and speaker cable should I use - Cardas Cross is not so open and detailed but adds warmth
3) I would like to hear any other suggestion

Thanks!

Get Plinius 9100 for amplification and some Nordost cables for detail.Cant go wrong.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Quest on January 27, 2010, 06:52
I use RCA from pre to power becuase there are some limitation of the Plinius M8 pre amp. I need to connect HT bypass from my AV Processor to M8 Pre using RCA, but the pre amp ONLY allow RCA output to power amp when "HT Bypass" is selected. In another word, when "HT ByPass" is selected, XLR output to power amp is not working.

The Shunyata Mamba power cord is mainly for digitial source or pre. This model is not meant for power amp. I would try to swap the power cord around. The first step is to connect the Shunyata Mamba to the CDP.
Oh I see.. i face the same issue with the M8 and was wondering how to resolve. :)
Well, see if swapping the cords around gives you a little of what you want 1st then can tweak from there.. still advise to wait since you still have some pending room treatment to finalise the sound.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on January 27, 2010, 08:18
Hello!

Well, I would like to ask some advice about my stereo system:

Simaudio Moon i-1 integrated amp
Simaudio Moon CD-1 player
Dynaudio Excite x32 speakers
OCOS Ultra speaker cable
Cardas Cross interconnect
Shunyata Diamondback power cable on CD-1

1) Do you think that x32 needs more watts to get best out of them ( i-1 50w/8ohm; 100w/4ohm)
2) Wich IC and speaker cable should I use - Cardas Cross is not so open and detailed but adds warmth
3) I would like to hear any other suggestion

Thanks!

Hi starboard,

Good combi you have there :D

What do you find lacking inyour setup?

The Simaudio amp has more than sufficient power for the X32, it's pretty easy to drive them. Maybe if you find your setup abit lean then it's the OCOS speaker cable :( Then again you using a Cardas Cross which add warm to the setup.. ;)

So best is to state what you need and it will be easy for us to suggest the way out for you ;)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on January 27, 2010, 09:36
Oh I see.. i face the same issue with the M8 and was wondering how to resolve. :)
Well, see if swapping the cords around gives you a little of what you want 1st then can tweak from there.. still advise to wait since you still have some pending room treatment to finalise the sound.

Another way to resolve this issue is to get a XLR to RCA converter. I have explored this option but don't like it.

There are good XLR to RCA converter available in the market. Refer to the link below. It is from Cardas.

http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?accstwek&1267830460&/Cardas-Adapters-XLR-to-Rca---t (http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?accstwek&1267830460&/Cardas-Adapters-XLR-to-Rca---t)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: marduk on January 27, 2010, 09:39
I have to disagree with you on your Ayre observation and esepcially since you are already using a Ayre CDP. Which model is that? On what setup did you audition the Ayre amps with?
I try the ayre k5xe preamp with primare A31.2 power amp. The ayre is good. It has a clean, clear and forward sound. I would not describe as airy or lean. It is also dynamic, quiet with good detail. The bass is also fuller and bouncy. Overall, the ayre better the primare. I only felt that it lacks that bit of emotion that the primare can deliver. Perhaps is the synergy of the system.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: marduk on January 27, 2010, 09:47
I wouldnt agree with that. Dynaudio itself wouldn't be bright....unless your source or amplification is.
Infact thats one of the big things that I like about Dynaudio sound.
My source & amplification is not dry or lean. I am a 52SE user. To say it sounds bright is subjective. One may find it bright while another may not, but the character of the speaker cannot be changed totally. I find that the focus 110 on the other hand sounds mellower than the 52SE.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: abc on January 27, 2010, 09:58
Get Plinius 9100 for amplification and some Nordost cables for detail.Cant go wrong.

Simply asking someone to change the amp without finding out whats the root cause was absurd. I was wondering how do you derive the theory of Plinius 9100 + Nordost cable + Dynaudio = best combi. As per my last thread i mentioned, there is no perfect combination at all.

i would advice Starboard to tweak with cable if it does not solve the issue then perhaps can try other source . Beside i don't find Plinius + Dynaudio that fantastic, heard it before and not impressed. I have heard Dynaudio with other brand of setup that sound way better. 
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Quest on January 27, 2010, 13:52
Another way to resolve this issue is to get a XLR to RCA converter. I have explored this option but don't like it.

There are good XLR to RCA converter available in the market. Refer to the link below. It is from Cardas.

http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?accstwek&1267830460&/Cardas-Adapters-XLR-to-Rca---t (http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?accstwek&1267830460&/Cardas-Adapters-XLR-to-Rca---t)
i know, but that defeats the purpose of going fully balanced. :)
i'll wait till my processor arrives then see if i can handle the noise level of going through 2 pre-amps.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Starboard on January 27, 2010, 17:53
Well, I find it lacks some details when using Cardas Cross, but more important is that soundstage becomes laid back and not so wide. On the other hand Cardas Cross gives warmth (on some recordings even that combo sounds bright), because it is true OCOS is bright sounding cable but very detailed. 
Question is which IC-speaker combo should I try to get details and forward presentation, but keeping warmth in sound. I belive that Excite series sound more lean and neutral than Focus, which is what I was using when choosing amp...
I find on the other forums that people like Plinius-Dynaudio combo, and in some audio shows it was playing with very good results (Plin 9200-Dyn Excite x32). Also Simaudio-Dynaudio very good known synergy. But of course it depends on personal taste, room acoustics and choosing right cables??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on January 27, 2010, 18:41
Well, I find it lacks some details when using Cardas Cross, but more important is that soundstage becomes laid back and not so wide. On the other hand Cardas Cross gives warmth (on some recordings even that combo sounds bright), because it is true OCOS is bright sounding cable but very detailed.  
Question is which IC-speaker combo should I try to get details and forward presentation, but keeping warmth in sound. I belive that Excite series sound more lean and neutral than Focus, which is what I was using when choosing amp...
I find on the other forums that people like Plinius-Dynaudio combo, and in some audio shows it was playing with very good results (Plin 9200-Dyn Excite x32). Also Simaudio-Dynaudio very good known synergy. But of course it depends on personal taste, room acoustics and choosing right cables??? ??? ???
It's a give and take kind..so not all system will have best of both world :P I would recommend you to try tweaking your system with accessories. Best to achieve wide soundstage with synergy, get yourself a set of Nordost Titanium Pulsar points and put it underneath your player and if you have extra $$$ get 2 sets :P then you a happy guy :o :D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: domj on January 27, 2010, 23:19
Well, I find it lacks some details when using Cardas Cross, but more important is that soundstage becomes laid back and not so wide. On the other hand Cardas Cross gives warmth (on some recordings even that combo sounds bright), because it is true OCOS is bright sounding cable but very detailed. 
Question is which IC-speaker combo should I try to get details and forward presentation, but keeping warmth in sound. I belive that Excite series sound more lean and neutral than Focus, which is what I was using when choosing amp...
I find on the other forums that people like Plinius-Dynaudio combo, and in some audio shows it was playing with very good results (Plin 9200-Dyn Excite x32). Also Simaudio-Dynaudio very good known synergy. But of course it depends on personal taste, room acoustics and choosing right cables??? ??? ???

Bro, if you want forward presentation, I'm afraid u won't get it from the Cross. I've used the Cross all the way up to the Golden Ref and would say the Cross is the warmest and least detailed of the lot. If u like the Cardas sound, u can try the Golden Presence which is more open and detailed but retains the signature Cardas warmth and also try the Nordost range for speed and transparency and compare. Believe both Coherence and GP offer home trials. I think keeping to the same brands for interconnects and speaker cables makes things less complicated.  :)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on January 27, 2010, 23:20
i know, but that defeats the purpose of going fully balanced. :)
i'll wait till my processor arrives then see if i can handle the noise level of going through 2 pre-amps.

Which processor and power amp you have?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: viper1912 on January 28, 2010, 09:40
Starboard

I've heard Musical Fidelity pair with VDH on Dyn52, result was not bad either.

I've tried b4 Chord i/c which is DIn-RCA from Naim to Marantz cdp with VDH speaker cable.

now settle with Nordost Blue Heaven with Densen DM20/30. with OCOS speaker cable..(OCOS never give me any bright sound to me) later OCOS hooked up with AV and now using Nordost Flatline Gold Speaker Cable give better high......and overall music was improved as well.

Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: rahul on January 28, 2010, 20:17
Starboard

I've heard Musical Fidelity pair with VDH on Dyn52, result was not bad either.

I've tried b4 Chord i/c which is DIn-RCA from Naim to Marantz cdp with VDH speaker cable.

now settle with Nordost Blue Heaven with Densen DM20/30. with OCOS speaker cable..(OCOS never give me any bright sound to me) later OCOS hooked up with AV and now using Nordost Flatline Gold Speaker Cable give better high......and overall music was improved as well.



Nordost flatline gold better than Ocos ? That sounds too good...as Ocos is many times costlier than this Nordost.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Starboard on January 29, 2010, 08:24
OK, so I will try Nordost and even VdHul, but there is one thing I wanna
know! Ocos speaker cable is often recommend  by Dynaudio because
they make them and use them for internal wiring. So I would like to know
which of interconnect cable can be matched with OCOS speaker cable. Of course
this is question for those people who have that experience. I now this is
individual question and depends about many aspects, but just to make a
short list will be enough....

THNKS!
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: naimster on January 29, 2010, 10:22
Many moons back my friend had a YBA systenm with Dynaudio C2.8. It is a near sealed box with a passive radiator and Esotar tweeters. He was using OCOS speaker cable with Audience Au24 i/c for CD to pre. It was a very match and sounded marvellous. The OCOS worked well in his case as it tamed the Esotar highs a bit but OCOS in other speakers was disastrous. The highs simply rolled off big time.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Quest on January 29, 2010, 10:33
Which processor and power amp you have?
currently using benchmark dac-1 to m8 to SA201.
probably inserting a emotiva umc-1 whenever it comes out for HT.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: yihyan on January 29, 2010, 10:40
Ocos speaker cable is often recommend  by Dynaudio because
they make them and use them for internal wiring.

may not be true.... i believe there is only a few selected models (consequence) are actually using ocos as internal wiring. Best to confirm with Nic :)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on January 29, 2010, 10:44
may not be true.... i believe there is only a few selected models (consequence) are actually using ocos as internal wiring. Best to confirm with Nic :)

You're right about that bro, only the Evidence series, Consequence UE are using the OCOS internally on certain components only. Not all the drivers are connected with OCOS.

Olden days, they do used them on certain models of the Confidence and some vintage models.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on January 29, 2010, 11:03
Just to let you guys know that they only used the OCOS on certain drivers nia. Especially the High tweeter, tweeter and high midrange. Those black cable are OCOS on the pic. Whereas the low mids & bass unit are just using pure copper cable.

I've seen some forumer fully mod their contour 1.3mkII, 1.3se with OCOS, some even double run it internally :o but the sound comes out is no longer the original Dyn's signatures :(

(http://i512.photobucket.com/albums/t322/rotti15/DYN_CUE_Crossover2.jpg?t=1264733782)
pic of the Consequence UE highs/mids Xover.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: sagibit on January 29, 2010, 13:03
I've seen some forumer fully mod their contour 1.3mkII, 1.3se with OCOS, some even double run it internally :o but the sound comes out is no longer the original Dyn's signatures :(

So does the forumer like the new sound? Did the mod makes the Dyn's sound more transparent or worse?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on January 29, 2010, 13:07
So does the forumer like the new sound? Did the mod makes the Dyn's sound more transparent or worse?

Hmmm..forumer himself also blur liao :P don't know what kind of signatures he wants :-\

To me is sounded more coarse on the highs and the bass alittle too heavy than normal.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: rahul on January 29, 2010, 13:24
Not sure if it makes sense to change internals of a speaker to change its signature sound.......might as well buy another one which has the signature that you like !
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Kakarotttan on February 01, 2010, 01:31
Hello guys~

I'm totally new in here, and this seems like a very decent place of Dynaudio users and enthusiastics' sharing and communication.
In fact, I'm considering to upgrade my Focus 140 to Confidence C1 recently but have some trouble choosing the appropriate amp...
I'm personally fairly interested in the Densen Beat 250 + 350 Mono combo to drive the C1, but have no previous experience of the Densen's sound, thus not certain whether it would be a right choice...
Is it an effiecient set up power wise, and what the sound characteristic it would have??

I would really appreciate some advices and opinions of you guys'.
Thank you very much~~
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Kakarotttan on February 01, 2010, 01:41
For a little more information, I listen to classical and new age music must of the time, and vocals occasionally.
The room is about 25 square meters.

Thanks~
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: rahul on February 01, 2010, 02:10
Hello guys~

I'm totally new in here, and this seems like a very decent place of Dynaudio users and enthusiastics' sharing and communication.
In fact, I'm considering to upgrade my Focus 140 to Confidence C1 recently but have some trouble choosing the appropriate amp...
I'm personally fairly interested in the Densen Beat 250 + 350 Mono combo to drive the C1, but have no previous experience of the Densen's sound, thus not certain whether it would be a right choice...
Is it an effiecient set up power wise, and what the sound characteristic it would have??

I would really appreciate some advices and opinions of you guys'.
Thank you very much~~

Just go to Adelphi...Nick can arrange a Densen + Dynaudio audition for you.
Can be an easy decision from there ...
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on February 01, 2010, 02:28
haha yeah and theres no turning back when you go C1.  :)
its an impressive combination.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Kakarotttan on February 01, 2010, 02:29
Just go to Adelphi...Nick can arrange a Densen + Dynaudio audition for you.
Can be an easy decision from there ...

Thanks Rahul,

The thing is that I study abroad and have no chance listening to the actual set up here, which is very inconvenient...
I'm trying to gather as much information as possible...even though it is highly subjective...
Thanks a lot anyway~
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Kakarotttan on February 01, 2010, 02:36
haha yeah and theres no turning back when you go C1.  :)
its an impressive combination.

Hi DJQ,
Really?? I do hear the C1 is such an impressive pair of speakers.
I also want to optimaize the performance of them, and that's why I'm hanging around for more information and advise.
Simaudio P7 + W7, and Densen B250 + 350 are my first two choices on the list, but I suppose they have fairly different sound characteristics. Especially I have no experience of Densen's sound, do you ever heard this combination with Densen?
Any opinion is appreciated~~
Thank you!
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: viper1912 on February 01, 2010, 09:24


Earlier I was using Naim to pair with Dyn.........now a proud owner of Densen Classic Pre n Pwer.

Can tried out a few combination see which is suitable for you.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on February 01, 2010, 10:11
Visit Dyn @ Aldephi and get Nic...to pair up for you to audition. There are 3 choices of amp available at Dyn shop.

1. Plinius Combination with C1 or
2. Densen with C1. :o
3. Chord with C1... ;D

Earlier I was using Naim to pair with Dyn.........now settle with Densen Classic Pre n Pwr. I would say Densen gives what Naim at its best.......plus airy.

Bro, you didn't read his reply sibo? he already say he studied abroad not residing here..you still ask him to come adelphi >:(

Anyway, thanks for putting up good words for Dyns Singapore

Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Kakarotttan on February 01, 2010, 11:16
Bro, you didn't read his reply sibo? he already say he studied abroad not residing here..you still ask him to come adelphi >:(

Anyway, thanks for putting up good words for Dyns Singapore



Haha, thanks guys~~
I'm still expecting some advices if possible~~ anything at all~~ I would appreciate it~~
So far i'm personally leaning toward the Simaudio P7/W7 combo even though they sound a little bit cold and emotionless...
For "dynaudio", would you mind discribe and explain a little more about your feeling and opinion of Densen & Dynaudio combo??
What's the particular sound characteristics and excitement of them, or anything you come up with~
Thank you very much!!
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Quest on February 01, 2010, 12:00
from the setups i have heard, dynaudio/densen pair is a dynamic sounding combination, and gives a fairly bold and forward presentation. you won't ever feel the lack of control in bass + the densens are able to deliver the punch. i personally feel the sound is a little thicker all-around, and thus lets u have some flexibility in cabling as it is unlikely to sound lean.

the main tonal character of the setup comes from densen IMO, which i have not gotten a hold off entirely as i didn't spend much time with it. it is a little off-neutral with slight emphasis towards a more warmer or 'woody' sound from what i recall, but this could be rectified by cabling as to what you want. i personally prefer the plinius combination, but primarily just because of the tonality.

on cold/emotionless - i recently made a tough decision on buying a speaker cable that gave me more warmth/emotion versus more detail/analytical sound. though the detailed/analytical sound was addictive and gave a 'wow factor' on listening, i felt it would be difficult to live with for most genres (though it does sound VERY good with classical) and i'd continue to tweak.

for those who are curious - i am talking about the nordost frey which seems to be a popular choice to pair with dynaudio. happened to also come across a review (http://www.soundstage.com/revequip/nordost_frey.htm) where the reviewer states a simliar thing in his setup - "For all its cleanness, the Frey speaker cables seemed to homogenize the different moods in music, tilting more toward addressing the analytical elements in music rather than its ineffable mystery -- for lack of a better way to put it. For example, with the Eberhard Weber recording, I found myself delving into things like drummer Michael DiPasqua's use of frequent flams on the off beat while still keeping eighth notes on his ride cymbal, rather than becoming immersed in the sheer sweep of this odd and evocative music." I must admit, reading what I thought, written in someone else's hand, put me in a mind to buy my 2nd choice (the heimdall) instead.

Kakarottan - End of the day, you have to know what you want. I know it is tough to make the decision as you can't hear the items exactly, but you have to start somewhere.. either way I doubt you'd make a bad choice. If you can't hear the alternative and are happy with your choice, then you'd be blissfully unaware. :)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on February 01, 2010, 12:10
Bro Quest very well written  :D

Personally to me I would described the Densen/Dyns combo as pretty all rounder, it gives attack synergy, dynamics, and wide soundstage with a little smooth sweet sounding characteristics or we called PRAT.

The Simaudio combo is also another good combi when Dyns USA combine them together during their hifi show and had receive numerous reviews.

At the end of it, it's boils down to your own preferences. :D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Kakarotttan on February 01, 2010, 13:02
Thank you very much both dynaudio and Quest. Those are very helpful information.
I'll eventually come down to a decision and make the move.
It may not be that soon, but by the time I get all the equipments, I'll be more than happy to share some pictures and the overall experience of the sound of the system.
By the way, I'm going to get the C1 in white lacquer, which I suppose is available now, but haven't seen any around at all...

Thanks again~~
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on February 02, 2010, 08:15
Hey guys, did anyone of you saw a Focus 110 for sale? Was told by nic_wei the speaker was reserved just within minutes :o Just now saw it was SOLD at 00.02hrs..this model is really hot selling man 8)

Wondering who is the new owner? :P
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on February 02, 2010, 08:39
Hey guys, did anyone of you saw a Focus 110 for sale? Was told by nic_wei the speaker was reserved just within minutes :o Just now saw it was SOLD at 00.02hrs..this model is really hot selling man 8)

Wondering who is the new owner? :P

Wow, Dynaudio speakers are really hot item men!!!

Not sure how many C1 owner in Singapore? Seems not very active in this forum.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on February 02, 2010, 08:49
Sure there's some out there....

Now I guess it's only you & me in this forum 8)

See you this evening ;)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: nic_wei on February 02, 2010, 10:18
Hey guys, did anyone of you saw a Focus 110 for sale? Was told by nic_wei the speaker was reserved just within minutes :o Just now saw it was SOLD at 00.02hrs..this model is really hot selling man 8)

Wondering who is the new owner? :P

The buyer of the Focus 110 really "fast hand fast leg".
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: rahul on February 02, 2010, 10:29
Wow, Dynaudio speakers are really hot item men!!!

Not sure how many C1 owner in Singapore? Seems not very active in this forum.

Maybe Nick can confirm. He must have got some sales stats for C1.
Dynaudio is indeed quite popular.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on February 02, 2010, 10:51
Maybe Nick can confirm. He must have got some sales stats for C1.
Dynaudio is indeed quite popular.

I believed we've sold about 20-30 pairs of C1 locally for the past 3.5 years. Not much for a country like us. Including locals and expatriates. I think they don't mingle here or not the type of hifi gurus like us :P They just sit down and enjoys the music..hehehe..
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Audio on February 02, 2010, 11:18
I believed we've sold about 20-30 pairs of C1 locally for the past 3.5 years. Not much for a country like us. Including locals and expatriates. I think they don't mingle here or not the type of hifi gurus like us :P They just sit down and enjoys the music..hehehe..

I really like to know this.....how many Consequence owners are there in Singapore who bought from you?

Seriously, I think this is the most consistent pair of speakers I have heard so far.


(Audio)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on February 02, 2010, 11:25
I really like to know this.....how many Consequence owners are there in Singapore who bought from you?

Seriously, I think this is the most consistent pair of speakers I have heard so far.


(Audio)

Alamak bro, nothing to boast about lah..baru 1 nia in Nov 09 :( But then again, $98k for a pair of speaker not any one of us can afford..work until die also can't buy ah...
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Quest on February 02, 2010, 11:28
Alamak bro, nothing to boast about lah..baru 1 nia in Nov 09 :( But then again, $98k for a pair of speaker not any one of us can afford..work until die also can't buy ah...
think its just about priorities.. for instance, if u dun own a car, can easily buy one of these.. something like what one of our mutual acquaintance has done. :)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: francis woo on February 02, 2010, 11:38
Alamak bro, nothing to boast about lah..baru 1 nia in Nov 09 :( But then again, $98k for a pair of speaker not any one of us can afford..work until die also can't buy ah...

Tomorrow is 4D and Thursday is Totto!!!.......... ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Audio on February 02, 2010, 11:50
Tomorrow is 4D and Thursday is Totto!!!.......... ;D


Seriously, even 4D also cannot make it.....how long can you last?  You need to buy 33 "BIG" everytime you try, $66 every weekend, ...must strike first prize then can consider order from Nick.....

(Audio)


*Somehow I felt I am making a boo-boo here....$3,000 winning from "BIG" or "SMALL"?.....you can tell I am not a 4D person.....*

Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: domj on February 02, 2010, 11:54
Hong Bao draw and CNY draw coming...$5M and $10M... ;D ;D.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on February 02, 2010, 12:08
Hong Bao draw and CNY draw coming...$5M and $10M... ;D ;D.

Who ever kena the $10M, we're gladly to sell you the whole showroom  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on February 02, 2010, 12:35
Just to share interesting Contour S1.4 which belong to my cusotmer. I think only one in the whole world. It's cabinet are wrapped with carbon fibre instead of genuine wood veneers. Reason: Speaker cabinet was damaged (dropped) and Dyns do not sell spare replacement cabinet so he had to send to a workshop to redo the cabinet. So out come this carbon fibre. 8) Paid $1680 for the job  :o

(http://i512.photobucket.com/albums/t322/rotti15/IMG_6534.jpg?t=1265084933)
(http://i512.photobucket.com/albums/t322/rotti15/IMG_6545.jpg?t=1265085103)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: seanyzf on February 02, 2010, 12:49
Oh that looks sleek! Marchiem race car on carbon fiber body work. haha Does it in anyway affect the original sound?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on February 02, 2010, 12:52
How does it sound after the CF weave rework?

Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on February 02, 2010, 13:34
How does it sound after the CF weave rework?



They actually had the orignal veneer removed and wrap the CF on to it. According to my customer, there's a minor slight hardness in the sound but still can live with it. Machiam more synergy.  :P
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on February 02, 2010, 13:36
Oh that looks sleek! Marchiem race car on carbon fiber body work. haha Does it in anyway affect the original sound?
Ya it is from those car CF body or bonet. It was done in a car workshop.  8)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: domj on February 02, 2010, 14:09
Fwah....dem chio siah..  Maybe he was inspired by the CF like those on Wilson Benesch speakers.:)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: seanyzf on February 02, 2010, 16:04
They actually had the orignal veneer removed and wrap the CF on to it. According to my customer, there's a minor slight hardness in the sound but still can live with it. Machiam more synergy.  :P

Oh so it means that the original wood cabinet is there execpt for the outer veneer?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on February 02, 2010, 16:29
Yeah dyn so fast sell. Anybody wanna sell focus 110 or 200C, got ready buyer here.  :)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on February 02, 2010, 17:01
Oh so it means that the original wood cabinet is there execpt for the outer veneer?

Yup..they had to remove the original veneer so that the CF can weave onto the cabinet nicely.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: hca2 on February 02, 2010, 17:26
any sales for focus 220mk2?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on February 02, 2010, 19:16
any sales for focus 220mk2?

no sales, but wanna buy better hurry before prices expected to going up in the next few mths.  :-X
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: rahul on February 02, 2010, 23:55
any sales for focus 220mk2?

I have it..so atleast one sale  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on February 03, 2010, 09:38
Sure there's some out there....

Now I guess it's only you & me in this forum 8)

See you this evening ;)

Thank you for inviting me. Really enjoy listening to your system.

Hope there are more C1 and Dynaudio fans able to join this fourm and share thier experience.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: hca2 on February 03, 2010, 09:50
no sales, but wanna buy better hurry before prices expected to going up in the next few mths.  :-X

i often drop-by at dyns showroom it sems that every year they increase the price, now totem forest is cheaper than focus 220 mk2 offcourse without discount from dyns
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on February 03, 2010, 10:27
Thank you for inviting me. Really enjoy listening to your system.

Hope there are more C1 and Dynaudio fans able to join this fourm and share thier experience.

You're welcome  :D

I also enjoy those cds that you brought along..hmmm..though I have some similar to yours but I haven't had it play thru the C1. I think it's time to blast it liao ;D especially the Fuyiyama cds :o
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: IwishIwasToneDeaf on February 03, 2010, 14:43
They actually had the orignal veneer removed and wrap the CF on to it. According to my customer, there's a minor slight hardness in the sound but still can live with it. Machiam more synergy.  :P

Whoa! Is there anywhere that I can go to give my 110 a black piano gloss finish?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on February 03, 2010, 14:47
Whoa! Is there anywhere that I can go to give my 110 a black piano gloss finish?

Why you not happy with the existing finishing meh? Check the link below, previously got some discussions on this before...

http://www.xtremeplace.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=66196.15
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: yihyan on February 03, 2010, 15:06
Whoa! Is there anywhere that I can go to give my 110 a black piano gloss finish?
send back to dynaudio maybe? :D

even if they do, prepare to pay a premium, as they outsourced it to the same factory as Steinway....
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on February 03, 2010, 15:20
sell your current 110, and order new piano black from dynaudio again.  ;D might as well get contour 1.4  :P or C1 like bro ciltang...  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on February 03, 2010, 15:27
sell your current 110, and order new piano black from dynaudio again.  ;D might as well get contour 1.4  :P or C1 like bro ciltang...  ;D

Hahaha..bro I know where you're coming from ;D Instigate him to buy glossy black 110 and sell his existing to you??? LOL...
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: IwishIwasToneDeaf on February 03, 2010, 15:43
Why you not happy with the existing finishing meh? Check the link below, previously got some discussions on this before...

http://www.xtremeplace.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=66196.15

Ok just gave the Simon dude a call. He doesn't do piano black unfortunately, however he would for the usual maple, cherry, etc. real wood veneers.

For those interested, bookshelf speaker sized would cost approximately S$300-400 per side.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: IwishIwasToneDeaf on February 03, 2010, 15:45
send back to dynaudio maybe? :D

even if they do, prepare to pay a premium, as they outsourced it to the same factory as Steinway....

Hi Yihyan, yes I did think of that and actually emailed them. The cost of shipping (2 ways), plus new speaker cabinet, I can buy another 110! haha!
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: IwishIwasToneDeaf on February 03, 2010, 15:49
sell your current 110, and order new piano black from dynaudio again.  ;D might as well get contour 1.4  :P or C1 like bro ciltang...  ;D

LOL! I doubt i will sell the 110 unless i upgrade to the 220. I still prefer the look (aesthetics) and feel (sound wise) of floor standers...Hehe...

The C1 is beyond my reach la!  :P
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: seanyzf on February 03, 2010, 16:25
Nick should do some special promo for existing dynaudio customer to trade in our speakers for upgrading. hehe
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dane on February 03, 2010, 16:36
how about wrapping the speakers like the cardon fibre one? i think it cost 2-3000 to do a whole car and and the size and shape of the 110 is very simple in comparison.. also would be reversible back to original finish should u change your mind or wish to sell..
actually should be pretty easy as diy project on a square box..
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on February 03, 2010, 16:58
Nick should do some special promo for existing dynaudio customer to trade in our speakers for upgrading. hehe

Trading in your old Dyns speakers are against our company policies. Due to DYNAUDIO image. No 2nd hands stuff allow in the showroom. They don't want to customer to feel are they buying new units or tapo ones. Hope you guys understand. We're NOT like some chaparang shops in Axxxxxi where anything also can trade-in :P

As for discount, I believed I'm hornest enough to tell you that I'm giving my best price and support to you guys out there who had bought previously. Increased of prices over the years is also not in our control due to raw material & euro prices increase. :(

Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: seanyzf on February 04, 2010, 15:07
Anyway Dynaudio are very hotstuffs on 2nd hand market as compare to other bands, dunno y also. haha btw Nick are you using nordost at your showroom?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on February 04, 2010, 15:18
LOL! I doubt i will sell the 110 unless i upgrade to the 220. I still prefer the look (aesthetics) and feel (sound wise) of floor standers...Hehe...

The C1 is beyond my reach la!  :P

haha ok. no problem.  :)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on February 04, 2010, 16:00
Anyway Dynaudio are very hotstuffs on 2nd hand market as compare to other bands, dunno y also. haha btw Nick are you using nordost at your showroom?

Yes, mostly wired with Nordost cables or next alternative is VDH which is much more affordable.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: rahul on February 04, 2010, 22:39
Trading in your old Dyns speakers are against our company policies. Due to DYNAUDIO image. No 2nd hands stuff allow in the showroom. They don't want to customer to feel are they buying new units or tapo ones. Hope you guys understand. We're NOT like some chaparang shops in Axxxxxi where anything also can trade-in :P

As for discount, I believed I'm hornest enough to tell you that I'm giving my best price and support to you guys out there who had bought previously. Increased of prices over the years is also not in our control due to raw material & euro prices increase. :(



Nick's great service is certainly a big plus for anyone buying Dynaudio/Plinius etc.
Can always rely on his honest support for any products he distributes.

Have had great experiences with his service where he really goes out of way to help you.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: seanyzf on February 04, 2010, 22:43
Ya agreed, unlike some who ENT his own kakis only :X. haha looking forward to upgrade my current set to a S1.4 and hopefully a SE will come along then...
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Kakarotttan on February 04, 2010, 23:39
Trading in your old Dyns speakers are against our company policies. Due to DYNAUDIO image. No 2nd hands stuff allow in the showroom. They don't want to customer to feel are they buying new units or tapo ones. Hope you guys understand. We're NOT like some chaparang shops in Axxxxxi where anything also can trade-in :P

As for discount, I believed I'm hornest enough to tell you that I'm giving my best price and support to you guys out there who had bought previously. Increased of prices over the years is also not in our control due to raw material & euro prices increase. :(



I don't quite understand the trade-in thing either...wouldn't people get suspicious that they are actually not buying the new ones??
Or they use the 2nd hand as back up parts for repair or replacement...either way, I doubt it's good for the store if they're actually trading in 2nd hands but selling everything new...
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Quest on February 05, 2010, 07:01
Nick's great service is certainly a big plus for anyone buying Dynaudio/Plinius etc.
Can always rely on his honest support for any products he distributes.

Have had great experiences with his service where he really goes out of way to help you.
Likewise experience with Nick. :) Very pleasant experience and I count him more as a friend and fellow hobbyist than a dealer.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on February 05, 2010, 14:43
My New toys

(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/clitang/05022010460.jpg)


Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on February 05, 2010, 14:50
wah what is that?  ???
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Audio on February 05, 2010, 14:56
No punks intended but the look of it reminds me of Andrea's "Unexpected Access" last night.

Nevertheless, I am feeling excited for you on your new purchase.


WHAT IS IT???


(Audio)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on February 05, 2010, 15:07
No punks intended but the look of it reminds me of Andrea's "Unexpected Access" last night.

Nevertheless, I am feeling excited for you on your new purchase.


WHAT IS IT???


(Audio)

More to come

(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/clitang/05022010469.jpg)

Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on February 05, 2010, 15:09
Get thee away from me. It's temptation!!!
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: rahul on February 05, 2010, 15:13
Big Floorstanders....that have travelled half way round the world....
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on February 05, 2010, 15:18
err dun think so leh. temptations are really long. as per the picture scale... i think not.  ???
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on February 05, 2010, 15:23
This is what happen to my C1 now

(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/clitang/05022010472.jpg)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: rahul on February 05, 2010, 15:25
C1 will get relegated to some other room..or up for sale?

Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on February 05, 2010, 15:33
C1 will get relegated to some other room..or up for sale?



It depends. Maybe will use it as the suround speaker first.

I do not have another set of amp and CDP to go with the C1.

Let's see
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Audio on February 05, 2010, 15:34
OMG! Sapphire???

(Audio)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on February 05, 2010, 15:37
Get thee away from me. It's temptation!!!

No! No!. It is not temptation....Too far away...away....

Something move up and away the line of "C"

Will post more picture when I have set it up. I am only one person to manage all this. It takes time.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on February 05, 2010, 15:45
wah!!! Sapphire!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: yihyan on February 05, 2010, 15:59
No! No!. It is not temptation....Too far away...away....

Something move up and away the line of "C"

Will post more picture when I have set it up. I am only one person to manage all this. It takes time.

wow...changed to sapphire when the C1 is not even fully burned in? hehe
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: rahul on February 05, 2010, 16:00
No! No!. It is not temptation....Too far away...away....

Something move up and away the line of "C"

Will post more picture when I have set it up. I am only one person to manage all this. It takes time.

I am sure a few bros here will be more than happy to help you set up your beauty.  ;D

Waiting for more pics.

Where did you buy it from? If you get from Nick, he will be there to help you set up.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on February 05, 2010, 16:18
It's a Sapphire serial number 0098/1000 in Bordeaux finish. Sorry bro Clitang...post for you first  :P

(http://i512.photobucket.com/albums/t322/rotti15/Decorated%20images/05022010464.jpg?t=1265357995)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on February 05, 2010, 16:37
It's a Sapphire serial number 0098/1000 in Bordeaux finish. Sorry bro Clitang...post for you first  :P

(http://i512.photobucket.com/albums/t322/rotti15/Decorated%20images/05022010464.jpg?t=1265357995)

Thank you. Thank you

You are faster then me....

Haha
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: rahul on February 05, 2010, 16:38
Beautiful !!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on February 05, 2010, 16:42
Thank you. Thank you

You are faster then me....

Haha

  :'( :'( :'( loose 1 sale liao   :( :(
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on February 05, 2010, 16:43
 :o :o :o  ;D ;D ;D
tonight no need sleep liao.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: yihyan on February 05, 2010, 16:48
  :'( :'( :'( loose 1 sale liao   :( :(

wat u mean?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: jimi on February 05, 2010, 16:50
It depends. Maybe will use it as the suround speaker first.


 :o

C1 surrounds....  :P :P
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on February 05, 2010, 17:24
  :'( :'( :'( loose 1 sale liao   :( :(

ciltang bought from overseas and not from Dynaudio Singapore....  ::)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: yihyan on February 05, 2010, 17:32
ciltang bought from overseas and not from Dynaudio Singapore....  ::)
cheaper by doing so?

I can imagine francis doing this...but... won't the transportation & tax part make it more exp...? hm...
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: sty on February 05, 2010, 17:43
If it is cheaper shipping it in than there must be something wrong here. But nonetheless, the speakers is simply stunning.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: venturer on February 05, 2010, 17:48
my guess is 2nd hand. The production of this spk is limted to 1000 pair

serial number 0098/1000 is the 98th pair? an early batch?

who is the lucky owner of first 0001 or the last 1000
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on February 05, 2010, 18:03
my guess is 2nd hand. The production of this spk is limted to 1000 pair

serial number 0098/1000 is the 98th pair? an early batch?

who is the lucky owner of first 0001 or the last 1000

You're right, it's 2nd hand lah coz bro Clitang wants to save some $$$$ to upgrade others as well. You all see the crates you know liao mah. Then my face also not there :P

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: yihyan on February 05, 2010, 18:13
You're right, it's 2nd hand lah coz bro Clitang wants to save some $$$$ to upgrade others as well. You all see the crates you know liao mah. Then my face also not there :P

 ;D ;D ;D
must have found a very good lubang lol
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on February 05, 2010, 18:23
must have found a very good lubang lol

Lobang sure have...it's whether you willing to take the risk. Anything spoil your pocket is going to burn a BIG LOBANG ;D ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: yihyan on February 05, 2010, 18:24
Lobang sure have...it's whether you willing to take the risk. Anything spoil your pocket is going to burn a BIG LOBANG ;D ;D
buy insurance gao gao.... hehe
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on February 05, 2010, 19:52
You're right, it's 2nd hand lah coz bro Clitang wants to save some $$$$ to upgrade others as well. You all see the crates you know liao mah. Then my face also not there :P

 ;D ;D ;D

Yes, yes. It can save me some money. It is demo unit. That's why I said I have to do it all by myself.......

Sapphire was launched sometime in summer 2008. The serial number 0098/1000, I guess it was the first 100 pairs that Dynaudio shipped out. To me, at the most it is 18 months old. The price offered is so good that I can't resist. So bite the bullet and go for it. Please take note it is an used unit.....

http://www.stereophile.com/floorloudspeakers/dynaudio_sapphire_loudspeaker/# (http://www.stereophile.com/floorloudspeakers/dynaudio_sapphire_loudspeaker/#)

Totally agree, have to take some risk here. Touch wood, it is working flawlessly for the past 3 hours. Cosmetically it is in perfect condition....



Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on February 05, 2010, 20:33
buy insurance gao gao.... hehe

yes,  I have paid a high price for the insurance and GST also, cannot escape...haha

After all this hassel, not sure it is still worth as compare to the $$$ I save...

Think still it is better to get it from Dynaudio locally...
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: ilovepanerai on February 05, 2010, 22:05
More to come

(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/clitang/05022010469.jpg)



Congrats Clitang on this purchase...

Looking forward to new photos of your audio room with these awesome speakers... :)

Cheers


Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: seanyzf on February 06, 2010, 22:25
I am wondering if there is anyone out there who drives their high end Dynaudio with tube amps such as Lamm and etc? 
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: francis woo on February 06, 2010, 22:36
I am wondering if there is anyone out there who drives their high end Dynaudio with tube amps such as Lamm and etc? 

I have been to 2 Hkg hi-end shows and at the Audio Space room, there were always using their tube references pre and power to drive the Temptations!!......... ;D

......and I can tell you that the sound was glorious!!..... :D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: seanyzf on February 06, 2010, 22:58
Hohoho! If there is a chance to hear it in SG den mai tu liao. Something new as compare to the usual SS amps.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: francis woo on February 06, 2010, 23:02
Aah, you will have to talk to Nick about this!!!!!! ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on February 06, 2010, 23:55
Here is a a pair of Contour S3.4 being driven by Cayin integrated tube amp. If i not mistaken, it's powering 2 x 50 watts.

(http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/8814/29122007191.jpg)

Smooth, rich warm sounding without compromising dynamics and synergy. Also using it as HT Bypass for HT as well on the front speaker.

Sorry pic taken from a lousy mobile phone camera :P
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: seanyzf on February 07, 2010, 01:17
wah siew man.. So i suppose there isn't much bass and treble roll off which will hinder dynaudio strengths? How does it fair against with high current amps such as Plinius or Densen?  
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on February 07, 2010, 08:57
wah siew man.. So i suppose there isn't much bass and treble roll off which will hinder dynaudio strengths? How does it fair against with high current amps such as Plinius or Densen?  

Sure there's ample of taut bass coming from the S3.4 and the treble is little more fluid compare to some solid state amp for sure bcoz the tube amp can switch from triode to pentode giving more power and drive given the speaker is running in 86dB 4ohms. I didn't detected any stress on the amp.

Well, both Plinius & Densen amps are solid state each has their own strength in sound. Some may prefers Plinius to Densen and vice versa. If you like warm then maybe you have to look at the tube sections, maybe a tube pre with solid state power. If you're lazy due to maintainence of tube maybe best options for you is use a Plinius 9200 integrated amp which has the warm characteristics  :P now abit of sales talk liao HAHAHA...
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: sjtan on February 07, 2010, 17:10
Sure there's ample of taut bass coming from the S3.4 and the treble is little more fluid compare to some solid state amp for sure bcoz the tube amp can switch from triode to pentode giving more power and drive given the speaker is running in 86dB 4ohms. I didn't detected any stress on the amp.

Well, both Plinius & Densen amps are solid state each has their own strength in sound. Some may prefers Plinius to Densen and vice versa. If you like warm then maybe you have to look at the tube sections, maybe a tube pre with solid state power. If you're lazy due to maintainence of tube maybe best options for you is use a Plinius 9200 integrated amp which has the warm characteristics  :P now abit of sales talk liao HAHAHA...
Ya, after what happened this morning, can predict a sale coming to you liao.. Sigh..  :(
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: seanyzf on February 07, 2010, 20:19
Sure there's ample of taut bass coming from the S3.4 and the treble is little more fluid compare to some solid state amp for sure bcoz the tube amp can switch from triode to pentode giving more power and drive given the speaker is running in 86dB 4ohms. I didn't detected any stress on the amp.

Well, both Plinius & Densen amps are solid state each has their own strength in sound. Some may prefers Plinius to Densen and vice versa. If you like warm then maybe you have to look at the tube sections, maybe a tube pre with solid state power. If you're lazy due to maintainence of tube maybe best options for you is use a Plinius 9200 integrated amp which has the warm characteristics  :P now abit of sales talk liao HAHAHA...

Looks like i will be coming down to audit the 9200 b4 i upgrade to a S1.4.  ;)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on February 07, 2010, 23:06
Here is another simple stereo setup with Contour S1.4, Plinius 9200 & CD101 recently setup for customer. Cables are wired with Nordost. No room treatment done to the living room. Big soundstage with more "live" kind of sound.

(http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/2803/img2030copy.jpg)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on February 07, 2010, 23:08
Ya, after what happened this morning, can predict a sale coming to you liao.. Sigh..  :(

Alamak, heartaches ah!  :'( :'(
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: nic_wei on February 08, 2010, 00:05
Here is another simple stereo setup with Contour S1.4, Plinius 9200 & CD101 recently setup for customer. Cables are wired with Nordost. No room treatment done to the living room. Big soundstage with more "live" kind of sound.

(http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/2803/img2030copy.jpg)

Wired with full Nordost? Simple and nice set up. :D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on February 08, 2010, 08:37
Ya, after what happened this morning, can predict a sale coming to you liao.. Sigh..  :(

Bro,

Bopian, speaker already dropped on the floor, time to move on to the upgrading :P Next alternative is to touchup the dents..

http://www.xtremeplace.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=66196.0
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on February 08, 2010, 08:43
Here is another simple stereo setup with Contour S1.4, Plinius 9200 & CD101 recently setup for customer. Cables are wired with Nordost. No room treatment done to the living room. Big soundstage with more "live" kind of sound.

(http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/2803/img2030copy.jpg)

Yes nice and sleek... Finally heard a good sounding contour S1.4 at the showroom, those paired with different amps really not doing justice.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: domj on February 08, 2010, 10:01
Bro,

Bopian, speaker already dropped on the floor, time to move on to the upgrading :P Next alternative is to touchup the dents..

http://www.xtremeplace.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=66196.0

Wah piang....must be heart pain man...or maybe 'accidentally' drop so now need to upgrade  :P
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on February 08, 2010, 10:32
Wah piang....must be heart pain man...or maybe 'accidentally' drop so now need to upgrade  :P

You bet! He wants to cry out liao :'( :'(  but not really bad lah, can touch-up abit.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: nic_wei on February 08, 2010, 10:39
Ya, after what happened this morning, can predict a sale coming to you liao.. Sigh..  :(

Upgrade to C1? :P
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on February 08, 2010, 10:41
C1? :P

No lah C1....he will need to work until dread to pay off the debts :P :P
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: marduk on February 08, 2010, 11:44
Here is another simple stereo setup with Contour S1.4, Plinius 9200 & CD101 recently setup for customer. Cables are wired with Nordost. No room treatment done to the living room. Big soundstage with more "live" kind of sound.

(http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/2803/img2030copy.jpg)
Nice setup!! Just a curious question. The S1.4 is placed quite near to the back wall, will this boost the bass to cause it to be boomy since the S1.4 has a bass reflex at the rear...
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on February 08, 2010, 12:01
Nice setup!! Just a curious question. The S1.4 is placed quite near to the back wall, will this boost the bass to cause it to be boomy since the S1.4 has a bass reflex at the rear...

From wall to the back of speaker is 40cm(16inches) and there wasn't any bass boom. Tried Jennifer Warnes Hunter track 1 and some tracks on Chris Spheres and bass is still good, giving a little bass punch..even though without any treatment.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: xerox on February 08, 2010, 12:12
Nice talking to you on the phone Nic, i will try to get back to you soon for the C1.  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on February 08, 2010, 12:51
Nice talking to you on the phone Nic, i will try to get back to you soon for the C1.  ;D

wah so many suddenly onto C1? So wats going to happen to your 110?  ::)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on February 08, 2010, 13:10
wah so many suddenly onto C1? So wats going to happen to your 110?  ::)

Because the sound from C1 is tokkong mah ;D ;D that's why going for upgrading.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: xerox on February 08, 2010, 13:46
Because the sound from C1 is tokkong mah ;D ;D that's why going for upgrading.

Yeah it is tokkong , price also tohkong also  ;D

@DJQ, i most probably keep my 110.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on February 08, 2010, 15:18
Yeah it is tokkong , price also tohkong also  ;D

@DJQ, i most probably keep my 110.

aww... ok. just asking.  ;D anyway i got a new toy to play for CNY too. after setup then take pictures  :-X
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: joamonte on February 08, 2010, 15:32
Thank you. Thank you

You are faster then me....

Haha

wow! Congrate! Nice speaker!


Cliff still can't find the time to delivery the panel, very busy because of CNY...paisaid...
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: arcustic on February 08, 2010, 17:53
I have been following this thread for almost 2 months now with interest.

The C1 is indeed a pair of very seductive and captivating speakers. I was walking through to Dynaudio shop a couple of weeks ago and Nick was playing the C1 for a customer.  It did makes my head turn to listen to it.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on February 08, 2010, 17:58
Bro arcustic, here's your pics

(http://i850.photobucket.com/albums/ab65/arcustic/IMG_1012.jpg)

(http://i850.photobucket.com/albums/ab65/arcustic/IMG_1013.jpg)

(http://i850.photobucket.com/albums/ab65/arcustic/IMG_1011.jpg)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: arcustic on February 08, 2010, 18:17
Thank you Bro Stealth.  I'm still struggling to get the pictures in. You are fast man.  :o
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: rahul on February 08, 2010, 18:28
Nice looking setup there. High WAF and I am sure it sounds great.

So the equipment is Oppo/Pioneer/Denon/Dynaudio ?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on February 08, 2010, 18:29
Thank you Bro Stealth.  I'm still struggling to get the pictures in. You are fast man.  :o

No problem...only your pic abit too big need to resize next time. So, after CNY then you come and listen my C1 ok?  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: venturer on February 08, 2010, 18:30
the speakers stand look very smart, custom made?

(http://i850.photobucket.com/albums/ab65/arcustic/IMG_1012.jpg)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: gs11tan on February 08, 2010, 18:38
Hi,

    Just some concerns, don't you think the vibration from your spks  will affect the performance of your amp, or worst still your player. ??
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on February 08, 2010, 18:42
Hi,

    Just some concerns, don't you think the vibration from your spks  will affect the performance of your amp, or worst still your player. ??

Looks at what's underneath the speaker  :P and looks closely to those small crystal that left ontop of the speaker, under, and player..my friend here is a tweaker  ;D for sure he has reasons to put all these tweaks.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: arcustic on February 08, 2010, 20:44
Nice looking setup there. High WAF and I am sure it sounds great.

So the equipment is Oppo/Pioneer/Denon/Dynaudio ?

Thank you.  Equipment = Oppo BDP-83, Pioneer DV-S838A, Yamaha DSP-A1 and Dynaudio Excite 12.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: arcustic on February 08, 2010, 20:45
No problem...only your pic abit too big need to resize next time. So, after CNY then you come and listen my C1 ok?  ;D ;D ;D

Certainly.  That would be my privilege and honour.  :)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: arcustic on February 08, 2010, 20:51
the speakers stand look very smart, custom made?

(http://i850.photobucket.com/albums/ab65/arcustic/IMG_1012.jpg)

The stands are actually solid wood blocks weighing about 14 kg each.  Intention was to dampen and prevent as much vibration as possible.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: arcustic on February 08, 2010, 20:57
Hi,

    Just some concerns, don't you think the vibration from your spks  will affect the performance of your amp, or worst still your player. ??

Yes, that was my original concern too in the beginning.  Used to have floorstanders which I placed in front  of the feature wall.  When I switch to bookshelf, I wanted to have it on stands but wife was not in favour as she was afraid that she may topple it over during housekeeping.  Therefore, have to make do....ended up with the customised solid wood blocks, then tweak like MAD. :P
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: gs11tan on February 08, 2010, 21:13

  Ya, that is usually the case when you put them in the living room area. btw, nice deco.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: viper1912 on February 09, 2010, 09:15
the speakers stand look very smart, custom made?

(http://i850.photobucket.com/albums/ab65/arcustic/IMG_1012.jpg)

Nice simple setup.....what are those footer you used underneath your equipment and speaker......Speaker Cable & IC  Nordost?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: arcustic on February 09, 2010, 10:30
Nice simple setup.....what are those footer you used underneath your equipment and speaker......Speaker Cable & IC  Nordost?


DH Squares and DH Cones for the DVD players,  Black Diamond Racing Cones for the Amp.  Those under the speakers are Nordost Pulsar Points with 3 Dollar Coins each under the front.  Nordost Frey Speaker Cables and First Impression Music Gold interconnects.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: rahul on February 09, 2010, 12:36
DH Squares and DH Cones for the DVD players,  Black Diamond Racing Cones for the Amp.  Those under the speakers are Nordost Pulsar Points with 3 Dollar Coins each under the front.  Nordost Frey Speaker Cables and First Impression Music Gold interconnects.

You certainly went all out with the accessories !
How are the Nordost Frey cables? Did you compare them to the Red/Blue dawn?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: seanyzf on February 09, 2010, 13:03
U using the jumbo or super for your DH cones?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: arcustic on February 09, 2010, 13:19
U using the jumbo or super for your DH cones?

I'm using the jumbo.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: nic_wei on February 09, 2010, 13:24
DH Squares and DH Cones for the DVD players,  Black Diamond Racing Cones for the Amp.  Those under the speakers are Nordost Pulsar Points with 3 Dollar Coins each under the front.  Nordost Frey Speaker Cables and First Impression Music Gold interconnects.

Thank you.  Equipment = Oppo BDP-83, Pioneer DV-S838A, Yamaha DSP-A1 and Dynaudio Excite 12.

:o Speaker Cable more expensive than speaker? :o
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: rahul on February 09, 2010, 13:28
:o Speaker Cable more expensive than speaker? :o

Excite is probably just a stopgap speaker. Bro arcustic aiming for C1.
Already bought the matching speaker cables :)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: seanyzf on February 09, 2010, 13:31
wah C1 again.. i probably get fried by my wife if i were to buy it.  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: arcustic on February 09, 2010, 13:33
You certainly went all out with the accessories !
How are the Nordost Frey cables? Did you compare them to the Red/Blue dawn?

I'm a strong believer in tweaks and accessories...they make a difference.  I used the Blue Heaven some 13 years ago...found it neutral but thin sounding.  I have heard the Red Dawn which IMO finds it more sonic than the Blue Heaven.  Ended up with the SPM which was a good combo with my other cables and equipment at that time.

Before buying the Frey, I did a AB with SPM and found that its way much better than SPM in terms of tonality, dynamics, soundstage and the background darkness.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: arcustic on February 09, 2010, 13:35
Excite is probably just a stopgap speaker. Bro arcustic aiming for C1.
Already bought the matching speaker cables :)

Wah...where did that come from   :o
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on February 09, 2010, 13:35
wah C1 again.. i probably get fried by my wife if i were to buy it.  ;D

Won't lah...just tell her cheap cheap nia..small bookshelf normally she won't pay much attention to it unless big floorstander then expensive  ;D ;D

Your 52SE size and C1 a little different in size nia mah only the C1 looks better..more sleek  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: seanyzf on February 09, 2010, 16:44
Won't lah...just tell her cheap cheap nia..small bookshelf normally she won't pay much attention to it unless big floorstander then expensive  ;D ;D

Your 52SE size and C1 a little different in size nia mah only the C1 looks better..more sleek  ;D ;D

Use this tactic b4, but that day she went with me to dynaudio and saw the C1 price tag alrdy.. she also said Consquence is chio. lol
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: sty on February 09, 2010, 18:08
Use this tactic b4, but that day she went with me to dynaudio and saw the C1 price tag alrdy.. she also said Consquence is chio. lol

Use another tactic saying that some friend of yours desperate need cash n need to sell his speakers off cheap till cannot miss type of price. My stuff always come back to the house in this way.  :)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: sonofdbn on February 10, 2010, 08:01
Your friends are so kind that they even repacked the stuff into boxes so it looked like it was brand new?  ;D

Not so easy to do. CFO handles finances, keeps the cheque book and sees all the credit card bills.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on February 10, 2010, 08:19
There's alway a big red plastic bag around ;D dispose the box and put into plasticbag ok liao mah :P then its 2nd hand
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: sty on February 10, 2010, 08:27
Your friends are so kind that they even repacked the stuff into boxes so it looked like it was brand new?  ;D

Not so easy to do. CFO handles finances, keeps the cheque book and sees all the credit card bills.

Under such circumstances ditch the box n just bring the speakers back. Anyway, I still have to admire the bros here for letting their wife control the finances.

For me, I just give my wife my contribution to the family every month n the rest is mine to spend in whatever I want. She can advice and comments but cant stop. Same for the things that she wants to buy too.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on February 10, 2010, 08:32
Under such circumstances ditch the box n just bring the speakers back. Anyway, I still have to admire the bros here for letting their wife control the finances.

For me, I just give my wife my contribution to the family every month n the rest is mine to spend in whatever I want. She can advice and comments but cant stop. Same for the things that she wants to buy too.

Bro sty,

I think we'll in the same league.

My wife knows all my gears don't come cheap so she don't bother about me as long I don't bother what she bought for herself.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: seanyzf on February 10, 2010, 08:57
she can buy herself a Hermes bag with your C1..  ;)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: sty on February 10, 2010, 09:59
Bro sty,

I think we'll in the same league.

My wife knows all my gears don't come cheap so she don't bother about me as long I don't bother what she bought for herself.

Yeah man, your gears really dont come cheap  :). Anyway, nowadays most couples r actually working so to me is that we work hard we should also enjoy hard. Apart from the household expenses and agreement to put aside for family building, respective party should have the given space to indulge in ones hobby but of course try not to go into debts lah.  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: arcustic on February 10, 2010, 11:38
I can understand what bro seanyzf is going through.  Some wives are just concerned that we don't spend our entire savings on some gears that just play music.  My wife is one of them.   She knows me me too well and knows that I will move once I set eyes on something.  She is watching me like a hawk.  :-[
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on February 10, 2010, 11:41
I can understand what bro seanyzf is going through.  Some wives are just concerned that we don't spend our entire savings on some gears that just play music.  My wife is one of them.   She knows me me too well and knows that I will move once I set eyes on something.  She is watching me like a hawk.  :-[

I rather my hifi sings to me than wife nagging.. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: arcustic on February 10, 2010, 11:53
I rather my hifi sings to me than wife nagging.. ;D ;D ;D

I don't know if that would work with my wife.  Cannot leh....what happen if she feels that I don't care about finance and also start splurging???  Die lah.....I will have to work like a cow lol.  No day no night...how to enjoy hifi?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: seanyzf on February 10, 2010, 12:00
I can understand what bro seanyzf is going through.  Some wives are just concerned that we don't spend our entire savings on some gears that just play music.  My wife is one of them.   She knows me me too well and knows that I will move once I set eyes on something.  She is watching me like a hawk.  :-[

hahah guess we both have the same pattern of wife. She even ask me to stop visting XP as this forum is too poisonous!
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: arcustic on February 10, 2010, 12:14
hahah guess we both have the same pattern of wife. She even ask me to stop visting XP as this forum is too poisonous!

Hmm....that's exactly what she said whenever I'm on the internet viewing hifi website or forums. How ironical....others wives are concern about their spouses viewing porn....but my wife is concern about me viewing hifi   ???
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: matty on February 10, 2010, 15:08
ask missus whether she prefers her husband at home playing hifi knobs or outside playing other gals' knobs. i think hifi budget will approve right away...
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: yihyan on February 10, 2010, 15:19
ask missus whether she prefers her husband at home playing hifi knobs or outside playing other gals' knobs. i think hifi budget will approve right away...
together with the deed of seperation......
so you can now really play other gals knobs and at the same time enjoy whatever hifi gears you want :)

Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: sty on February 10, 2010, 15:23
ask missus whether she prefers her husband at home playing hifi knobs or outside playing other gals' knobs. i think hifi budget will approve right away...

Haha, this is a good one. Tuning left n right and plugging the big powercord into the power condition while enjoying the big woofer in front of our face  :P
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Quest on February 10, 2010, 15:24
together with the deed of seperation......
so you can now really play other gals knobs and at the same time enjoy whatever hifi gears you want :)
see if u still have the budget for it when u are done paying separation and lawyer fees, and start paying for alimony and maintenance.

why not get your wives involved in the hobby? i am sure most ppl can enjoy music.
my current gf is the one that urges me to spend $$ on cables cos she can hear the difference.
maybe abit diff from wife cos no control of funds though. :P
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on February 10, 2010, 15:32
see if u still have the budget for it when u are done paying separation and lawyer fees, and start paying for alimony and maintenance.

why not get your wives involved in the hobby? i am sure most ppl can enjoy music.
my current gf is the one that urges me to spend $$ on cables cos she can hear the difference.
maybe abit diff from wife cos no control of funds though. :P

my wife will never approve... now i gotta submit approval to "downgrade my speakers"  :-X
almost bought a Sub, and she said NO.  :(
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: arcustic on February 10, 2010, 15:48
see if u still have the budget for it when u are done paying separation and lawyer fees, and start paying for alimony and maintenance.

why not get your wives involved in the hobby? i am sure most ppl can enjoy music.
my current gf is the one that urges me to spend $$ on cables cos she can hear the difference.
maybe abit diff from wife cos no control of funds though. :P

Well, my wife appreciates hifi but not the money spent.  She always say that there is always a limit....not the sky the limit.  She reminded me how much money was lost when I sold off my hi end equipments.  Ouch...that hurts.

Her justification is that the current setup is musical and acceptable....so why rock the boat.  
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: rahul on February 10, 2010, 15:49
see if u still have the budget for it when u are done paying separation and lawyer fees, and start paying for alimony and maintenance.

why not get your wives involved in the hobby? i am sure most ppl can enjoy music.
my current gf is the one that urges me to spend $$ on cables cos she can hear the difference.
maybe abit diff from wife cos no control of funds though. :P

Its different with girlfriends. Priorities and expectations in a relationship change so much after marriage.
So enjoy your time while you can  ;)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: ks on February 10, 2010, 15:55
my wife will never approve... now i gotta submit approval to "downgrade my speakers"  :-X
almost bought a Sub, and she said NO.  :(

Easy la...you say fren buy one tompang at your house lor.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: yihyan on February 10, 2010, 16:16
Easy la...you say fren buy one tompang at your house lor.

helping friend to burn in at the same time hehehe...
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: jimi on February 10, 2010, 16:36
my wife will never approve... now i gotta submit approval to "downgrade my speakers"  :-X
almost bought a Sub, and she said NO.  :(

Got the HT together recently.

This time no choice in getting the sub or not. I just said to her, I'm getting the sub- which one would you like me to get.

It worked, well partly. I have a SVS cylinder for the HT, but she's a bit  >:( evil eyes at me.  :P

Am planning to soften her up with some chinese soap operas  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Quest on February 10, 2010, 17:03
Got the HT together recently.

This time no choice in getting the sub or not. I just said to her, I'm getting the sub- which one would you like me to get.

It worked, well partly. I have a SVS cylinder for the HT, but she's a bit  >:( evil eyes at me.  :P

Am planning to soften her up with some chinese soap operas  ;D ;D
chinese soap opera won't show her how good an investment the subwoofer was.. :P
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Audio on February 10, 2010, 17:35
my wife will never approve... now i gotta submit approval to "downgrade my speakers"  :-X
almost bought a Sub, and she said NO.  :(


No wonder you want the C1....to disguise the upgrade price.....conned her to think smaller speaker is cheaper!!!   :)

"Downgrade speakers!!"  but actually upgrading speakers to twice the price!!!

(Audio)

To all the women reading this....it is cheaper to allow him to buy the subwoofer!!!
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on February 10, 2010, 17:48
I started out getting a lot of gear on long term/permanent loan as a reviewer for a website.

Wife continued thinking a lot of the gear were demo stuff over the years and I never quite corrected that misconception.

hehe

Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Audio on February 10, 2010, 17:51
she can buy herself a Hermes bag with your C1..  ;)


Which Hermes bag cost the same as a pair of C1?   I think one pair C1 can cost several Hermes handbags.......

(Audio)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: ilovepanerai on February 10, 2010, 17:56

Which Hermes bag cost the same as a pair of C1?   I think one pair C1 can cost several Hermes handbags.......

(Audio)


Its the Berkin and some models can even buy C4... was told...

cheers
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Audio on February 10, 2010, 18:10

Its the Berkin and some models can even buy C4... was told...

cheers


Oh, a handbag at that price is justifiable.....a pair of hi-end speakers is not??   Wow!

(Audio)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Jsen on February 10, 2010, 18:16

Oh, a handbag at that price is justifiable.....a pair of hi-end speakers is not??   Wow!

(Audio)

I wonder if modern women have better purchasing power than men?  ???
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: sty on February 10, 2010, 18:22
I wonder if modern women have better purchasing power than men?  ???

Honestly I think they do. Do u have an idea how much a slimming, facial or hair package is worth? And do u have an idea how many packages the modern women sign just to look good?

But seems like most of the packages cant seem to justify the prices as I dont see much changes in it.  ???
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Jsen on February 10, 2010, 18:30
Honestly I think they do. Do u have an idea how much a slimming, facial or hair package is worth? And do u have an idea how many packages the modern women sign just to look good?

But seems like most of the packages cant seem to justify the prices as I dont see much changes in it.  ???

Of course I do as I didn't endose those package request from my wife.  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on February 10, 2010, 20:45
Hey guys,

I think we're running off thread liao. Think we should discuss more on the dyns stuff than wifey...
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Alpc on February 10, 2010, 23:08
Since this topic was brought up... You could go the way my colleague went.. He bought something at this price, the wife get something she wants at the same price.... Fair right?!?!  :P
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on February 10, 2010, 23:53
Hey guys,

I think we're running off thread liao. Think we should discuss more on the dyns stuff than wifey...

Agree! i will be posting pictures of my 1st Dynaudio purchase soon...  :)

hi all, let just deviate away from all others can go dyn chatters.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: sjtan on February 10, 2010, 23:57
Hey guys,

I think we're running off thread liao. Think we should discuss more on the dyns stuff than wifey...
Ya... Just kena some poison just now ???... Errr, time to upgrade...   ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: seanyzf on February 11, 2010, 00:55
Since this topic was brought up... You could go the way my colleague went.. He bought something at this price, the wife get something she wants at the same price.... Fair right?!?!  :P

Ya, that y i allow her to buy a 5k Chanel handbag in our next trip to france so that i will have a easier time convincing her for any new upgrades.  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on February 11, 2010, 08:08
Ya... Just kena some poison just now ???... Errr, time to upgrade...   ;D

Fwahahaha...now the poison had started to take effect liao. Mai tu liao ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on February 11, 2010, 08:25
huh simi poison sjtan got? i see i got antidote anot.  :)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Quest on February 11, 2010, 08:26
huh simi poison sjtan got? i see i got antidote anot.  :)
think u better cure ur own poison first.. :P
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on February 11, 2010, 08:35
huh simi poison sjtan got? i see i got antidote anot.  :)

Starts with a letter "C" and the next word start with "S" ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on February 11, 2010, 08:35
think u better cure ur own poison first.. :P

Hahaha...i fully agreed with you bro quest ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: viper1912 on February 11, 2010, 08:51
Starts with a letter "C" and the next word start with "S" ;D

bro sjtan................kin kin lor...another 3 days for new upgrades.........b4 CNY.......

Wah.......buey pai hor............S1.4 ahaahhhh......izzit........

Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on February 11, 2010, 10:19
think u better cure ur own poison first.. :P

Hahaha...i fully agreed with you bro quest ;D

haha ok ok i admit. i no cure liao. poison has reach the heart and now it has pump into all my nerves. cannot purge.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: jayou on February 11, 2010, 11:24
an old review on BC ref 1000 and the C1 for those who are interested.

http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue38/belcanto_ref1000.htm
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on February 11, 2010, 11:30
an old review on BC ref 1000 and the C1 for those who are interested.

http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue38/belcanto_ref1000.htm

good read. not many here pair their Dyn with Class D amp. its all a matter of preference, so far i only know bro yihyan. anyone esle care to share?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: ilovepanerai on February 11, 2010, 11:44
an old review on BC ref 1000 and the C1 for those who are interested.

http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue38/belcanto_ref1000.htm

Review seems to commented the BC Ref1000 a pretty good match with the C1s.

Looking forward to any comments of users of C1 with BC or other Class Ds.

CHeers
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: detusche on February 11, 2010, 13:17
haha ok ok i admit. i no cure liao. poison has reach the heart and now it has pump into all my nerves. cannot purge.
aiyoh...the cure is so simple...I know there is an antidote by the name of "C1" and it is only sold in aldephi.... ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on February 11, 2010, 13:21
aiyoh...the cure is so simple...I know there is an antidote by the name of "C1" and it is only sold in aldephi.... ;D

oei! you also buy dynaudio leh, why your signature never update!!!
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: detusche on February 11, 2010, 13:29
oei! you also buy dynaudio leh, why your signature never update!!!
paiseh to update lah bro...mine dynaudio is only peanuts as compare to your C1 leh.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on February 11, 2010, 13:35
paiseh to update lah bro...mine dynaudio is only peanuts as compare to your C1 leh.

winz liao. as if i got it. ur X12 overwhelm you too right. compare to your old huge bookshelf spk, even your mother also shock it was so good. faster go full dynaudio setup lah. you got see my avatar anot? dun live in the past.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on February 11, 2010, 13:36
paiseh to update lah bro...mine dynaudio is only peanuts as compare to your C1 leh.

There's no need to paiseh..Must be proud to be a Dynaudio owner! :D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on February 11, 2010, 13:38
oei! you also buy dynaudio leh, why your signature never update!!!

The pot calling the kettle black!  ;D Better update urs!
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on February 11, 2010, 13:41
winz liao. as if i got it. ur X12 overwhelm you too right. compare to your old huge bookshelf spk, even your mother also shock it was so good. faster go full dynaudio setup lah. you got see my avatar anot? dun live in the past.

Hmmm.."Life is too short for boring HiFi" sound damm familiar leh  ;D ;D tio tok liao lah..
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: yihyan on February 11, 2010, 13:59
oei! you also buy dynaudio leh, why your signature never update!!!
you got urself a C1?? going to pair with w4s?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: arcustic on February 11, 2010, 14:06
good read. not many here pair their Dyn with Class D amp. its all a matter of preference, so far i only know bro yihyan. anyone esle care to share?

I recalled someone sharing about C1 pairing with Jeff Rowland Continuum 500, which is also class D and said "it brought tears to my eyes when I go home".
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on February 11, 2010, 14:25
I think like most 4ohm rated speakers, they need amps that are properly rated for 4ohms operation.

Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: nic_wei on February 11, 2010, 15:11
Hmmm.."Life is too short for boring HiFi" sound damm familiar leh  ;D ;D tio tok liao lah..

Haha. Sound like Mr Thomas Sillesen. :P
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Quest on February 11, 2010, 15:20
good read. not many here pair their Dyn with Class D amp. its all a matter of preference, so far i only know bro yihyan. anyone esle care to share?
bro, since u have my amp on loan to compare with your S300, thought u can tell us what is the difference on class ab vs class d with the speakers? :)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on February 11, 2010, 16:30
bro, since u have my amp on loan to compare with your S300, thought u can tell us what is the difference on class ab vs class d with the speakers? :)

yes will do. been working almost everynight. will post my reviews on my findings over the weekend.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: marduk on February 11, 2010, 20:47
hi all,
Can there be some discussions on the speaker placement. For instance, are your speakers having a slight toe-in or firing straight ahead? Which yield the best results? How far away is the rear wall to speaker front? Distance between the speakers and your seat? Cheers
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on February 11, 2010, 22:20
hi all,
Can there be some discussions on the speaker placement. For instance, are your speakers having a slight toe-in or firing straight ahead? Which yield the best results? How far away is the rear wall to speaker front? Distance between the speakers and your seat? Cheers

I didn't toe-in my Focus 110 that much just a little only on my HT setup coz I find I loose out soundstage if I toe in. Whereas my C1 in the room I did toe in coz i gives my more focus. All these depend on your room envoirnment & acoustics and design of the speakers. Normally, dyns bookshelf sound best when place around 6-8ft apart and about 40-70cm away from the back wall to the speaker back. Off coz, all these depend on the size of the bookshelf, some can be placed slightly closer to the wall to give you more synergy.

At the end, it still a personnel preference on your placing. There's no right or wrong in toeing in or firing straight.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: sjtan on February 11, 2010, 22:25
There's no need to paiseh..Must be proud to be a Dynaudio owner! :D
Hello everyone out there !! Any takers for these?? ;D

(http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j297/i_mel69/Focus110.jpg)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on February 11, 2010, 22:31
Lai..ah..lai..ah...first piriority goes to Dyn's owner first before our bro post in buy/sell forum. ;D ;D

Mai tu liao..look at the immaculate conditions.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: sjtan on February 11, 2010, 23:28
Hello everyone out there !! Any takers for these?? ;D

(http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j297/i_mel69/Focus110.jpg)
WOW!! RESERVED LIAO...  :o
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: sty on February 11, 2010, 23:34
Really very fast man.  :o :o
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on February 12, 2010, 00:01
 :o :oFwah...after my post just log out to go ntuc buy thing only...so fast RESERVED liao ah? sibei kin :o :o
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: nic_wei on February 12, 2010, 00:34
WOW!! RESERVED LIAO...  :o

Congrat Bro. Please upload picture for your new speaker. ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: arcustic on February 12, 2010, 00:44
hi all,
Can there be some discussions on the speaker placement. For instance, are your speakers having a slight toe-in or firing straight ahead? Which yield the best results? How far away is the rear wall to speaker front? Distance between the speakers and your seat? Cheers

As I'm using the X12 in the hall, I did toe it in by a little bit.  Tried firing straight ahead but I can't get the imaging and like what Bro Stealth said, the soundstage is lost.  The in between distance is about 190cm and its 23cm away from the wall.  I have the speakers tilted slightly higher on the front and found the presentation palpable, highs extended and more air.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: sjtan on February 12, 2010, 09:44
Congrat Bro. Please upload picture for your new speaker. ;D
Not yet leh... After CNY.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: viper1912 on February 12, 2010, 09:55
Not yet leh... After CNY.

Betul ke bang.....already firing in yr hall liao si bo .....just that after CNY then post d picture.....

buey pai hor..........focus for rear speaker...................................si beh hor liao

Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on February 12, 2010, 10:38
Congrat Bro. Please upload picture for your new speaker. ;D

New speaker got no stock :( so got to patiently wait. Lun..Lun..Lun ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: marduk on February 12, 2010, 10:39
I didn't toe-in my Focus 110 that much just a little only on my HT setup coz I find I loose out soundstage if I toe in. Whereas my C1 in the room I did toe in coz i gives my more focus. All these depend on your room envoirnment & acoustics and design of the speakers. Normally, dyns bookshelf sound best when place around 6-8ft apart and about 40-70cm away from the back wall to the speaker back. Off coz, all these depend on the size of the bookshelf, some can be placed slightly closer to the wall to give you more synergy.

At the end, it still a personnel preference on your placing. There's no right or wrong in toeing in or firing straight.
I have a slight toe-in on my dyn 52SE and they are about 35" from the rear wall. The speakers are boomy when playing Jack Johnson "Curious George" the 3R's track. Directly behind the speakers are sonex pyramid foam (4'x4'). The speakers are 1.8m apart, well away from the side walls and I am sitting 2m from the speakers measured diagonally. the room is furnished with carpet and shelves. Directly behind my seat are 2 pcs of sonex classic foam. My room size is 4.5mx2.9m. The speakers are placed on the length of the room. How do I minimise the boomy bass? The reflex ports are plugged with the supplied bungs. thanks.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on February 12, 2010, 10:52
I have a slight toe-in on my dyn 52SE and they are about 35" from the rear wall. The speakers are boomy when playing Jack Johnson "Curious George" the 3R's track. Directly behind the speakers are sonex pyramid foam (4'x4'). The speakers are 1.8m apart, well away from the side walls and I am sitting 2m from the speakers measured diagonally. the room is furnished with carpet and shelves. Directly behind my seat are 2 pcs of sonex classic foam. My room size is 4.5mx2.9m. The speakers are placed on the length of the room. How do I minimise the boomy bass? The reflex ports are plugged with the supplied bungs. thanks.

Wow..your room is so much bigger compare to mine..there's some heavy bass track from some cds we often encountered this bass boom or standing waves that couldn't be absorb by normal sonex. We need a wideband bass trap to trap the 40-50Hz freq that most of the us are facing. I didn't use the bungs at all coz I find the bass will be totally cut-off and sound funny. I had 1 echobuster corner bass trap at 1 end of the wall, it really help to reduce the bass resonace. Too bad echobuster had closed down :(

By the way, what amplifier are you driving the 52SE with?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: marduk on February 12, 2010, 11:18
Wow..your room is so much bigger compare to mine..there's some heavy bass track from some cds we often encountered this bass boom or standing waves that couldn't be absorb by normal sonex. We need a wideband bass trap to trap the 40-50Hz freq that most of the us are facing. I didn't use the bungs at all coz I find the bass will be totally cut-off and sound funny. I had 1 echobuster corner bass trap at 1 end of the wall, it really help to reduce the bass resonace. Too bad echobuster had closed down :(

By the way, what amplifier are you driving the 52SE with?

I am using ayre k5xe/primare a31.2 or primare a30.1/31.2. Where can I get bass trap and how much will it cost? Will it be a good position if I place one bass trap (half circle type) at the middle in-between the speakers? By adding a dyn subwoofer helps? Thanks...
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on February 12, 2010, 11:30
I am using ayre k5xe/primare a31.2 or primare a30.1/31.2. Where can I get bass trap and how much will it cost? Will it be a good position if I place one bass trap (half circle type) at the middle in-between the speakers? By adding a dyn subwoofer helps? Thanks...

Your amplification looks good so I don't suspect there's any issue with that. Mostly, it's the 2 corner in the room the creating the bass boom, you can use some bolster or mattress to cover the corner is see whether it's the corner thats creating the boom. Placing the semi half bass trap in the middle will help also. You need to do lots of trail & errors to solve the bass boom. If can't then you need to seek Doctor Joamonte help liao.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: arcustic on February 12, 2010, 13:44
Wishing all bros celebrating Chinese New Year a very Prosperous New Year.  May the year of the Tiger brings Happiness, Wealth and Health to you and your love ones. I think especially wealth for us to buy more Dynaudio and HiFi stuff  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on February 12, 2010, 14:05
Dynaudio Singapore wishes every Dyn's owner A Happy Prosperous New Year!

Thanks for everyones support on the product and discussions.

We'll be closed from 13th - 16th Feb 2010

We'll resume business on 17th Feb 2010.

Best wishes,
Nick
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: sjtan on February 16, 2010, 08:30
Dynaudio Singapore wishes every Dyn's owner A Happy Prosperous New Year!

Thanks for everyones support on the product and discussions.

We'll be closed from 13th - 16th Feb 2010

We'll resume business on 17th Feb 2010.

Best wishes,
Nick
This thread has been quiet for the past few days!  ;D Looks like all bros really enjoying the CNY celebrations!!
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on February 16, 2010, 08:44
Ya..guess everyone is blasting their system at home with such a long weekend ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: viper1912 on February 16, 2010, 10:41
To all the Dyn lover......Everybody Huat ahhhh!!!!!

everyone is having a long weekend away from SG.....thus no body is replying the thread.

Their Dyn is having a rest as well.....1 whole year blass blass....now is the time to rest....tomorrow...i guess they will be back for more blasting...... ;D :D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on February 17, 2010, 11:54
The latest issue of Stereophile is out :)

There's a glowing review of the baby of the Dyn range: the Excite X12

Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Kakarotttan on February 18, 2010, 10:48
I find it fascinating how you guys express the sentence using words such as liao, leh, is this Cantonese, or more like a slang in Singapore?? I'm not a resident, I just happen to join the group by insanely searching Dynaudio reviews and forums online~~ :P

I'm curious if anyone has a pair of Dynaudio in high gloss lacquer finish?? Does it change the sound slightly?? Thanks
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Lord Hawke on February 18, 2010, 10:57
I find it fascinating how you guys express the sentence using words such as liao, leh, is this Cantonese, or more like a slang in Singapore?? I'm not a resident, I just happen to join the group by insanely searching Dynaudio reviews and forums online~~ :P
OT, but it's Hokkien, the dialect spoken in Fujian province in China.  Many immigrants to Singapore from way back when came from there, and it was de facto the lingua franca of Singapore up to the 80s (less so today).

I'm curious if anyone has a pair of Dynaudio in high gloss lacquer finish?? Does it change the sound slightly?? Thanks
Lacquer changing the sound of speakers? Colour me skeptical...:P
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Kakarotttan on February 18, 2010, 11:21
OT, but it's Hokkien, the dialect spoken in Fujian province in China.  Many immigrants to Singapore from way back when came from there, and it was de facto the lingua franca of Singapore up to the 80s (less so today).
Lacquer changing the sound of speakers? Colour me skeptical...:P

Thanks for the answer Lord Hawke~~
Well, the sound change is what I heard...it makes sense if it does slightly, but still not sure... ;D
I just made the down payment for my C1 in high gloss white lacquer finish, it's going to take 10-12 weeks to get it done...
Now every single day just feels extremely tedious to me....
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on February 18, 2010, 11:30
I just made the down payment for my C1 in high gloss white lacquer finish, it's going to take 10-12 weeks to get it done...
Now every single day just feels extremely tedious to me....

Congrates to your purchased :D Finally you have decided on it. Good decision! You difinately won't regret it.

The laquer finishing won't affect the sound quality.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: arcustic on February 18, 2010, 12:02
Wow....congratulations.  Another C1 owner.  8)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Kakarotttan on February 18, 2010, 12:21
Thanks guys~~
More than happy to share some pics when they're here...can't wait...
By the way...I also decided to use Simaudio P7 W7 to drive the C1 instead of Densen which I was interested originally...
The reason is that my listening environment is fairly generous that I do need something powerful to create the atmosphere...plus Densen seems a little expensive at its range I suppose... :P

Thanks Stealth, I guess only the look worths expecting, since the sound is already a no-regret promise. ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: seanyzf on February 18, 2010, 12:38
What is the premium over the normal C1?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: sjtan on February 18, 2010, 13:15
What is the premium over the normal C1?
Usually around 20% more if I'm not wrong.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: seanyzf on February 18, 2010, 13:26
That means another 2k more.. But heck, white gloss finish i suppose will be damm chio ar! can match a iPod liao. haha
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: joamonte on February 18, 2010, 13:33

The laquer finishing won't affect the sound quality.


While I can't hear any different between walnut or maple finishing in same speaker, I do hear a different between piano gloss and normal veneer in quite a few speakers....piano finishing sound tighter and clearer ; normal veneer sound warmer in most case.

I suppect it is becase piano gross coating changed the natrue resonace point of the speaker cabinet.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on February 18, 2010, 13:42
 
I suppect it is becase piano gross coating changed the natrue resonace point of the speaker cabinet.

Can be also but I personally have heard both but can't really hear the difference between standard and piano finishing :P maybe my ears not so sensitive :P low efficiency  ;D ;D

Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: joamonte on February 18, 2010, 13:54
Not lah, nothing to do with ear sensitve or not, it's more about knowing what to listen....my wife hearing test show she have better high frequncy hearing than me but she can't figure out how many musical instrutment in a simple classical camber music..

Btw, just a little test,do you guy know where dynaudio speaker are manufactered? :)
  
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on February 18, 2010, 14:06
Country or town?
;)

Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on February 18, 2010, 14:32

Btw, just a little test,do you guy know where dynaudio speaker are manufactered? :)
  

Skanderborg, Denmark
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on February 18, 2010, 15:13
Skanderborg, Denmark

show off ;)

does it really say behind the speakers?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on February 18, 2010, 15:28
show off ;)

does it really say behind the speakers?

Behind tag stated Made In Denmark  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: joamonte on February 18, 2010, 15:31
Everyone thought it is from Denmark....but according to my friend Mr Vitus ~~ another very Hi-End manufacturer in Denmark, http://www.vitusaudio.com/default.aspx ,(how "high end?" their 50 Watt integrated amp cost near SGD$30K!! :o ) told me Dynaudio is manufactured in here (chick for the link) (http://maps.google.com.sg/maps?oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&ie=UTF8&q=DYNAUDIO+International+GmbH+Ohepark+2+21224+Rosengarten+Germany&fb=1&gl=sg&hq=DYNAUDIO+International+GmbH&hnear=Ohepark+2+21224+Rosengarten+Germany&ei=G-h8S_nYLYy6tQOg9_GVCg&ved=0CBgQpQY&hl=en&view=map&cid=15251867205310248186&iwloc=A&sa=X) for some reasons now.......

Anyway, Vitus also told me some interesting story of this speaker during our beer section, but I don't think it is that suitable (nothing bad actually) to post it out, because I think Vitus have drink a little too much that time..LOL!... ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: seanyzf on February 18, 2010, 15:33
Any news that it be Made in China in the future like some of the brands who shifted their production out of england?  Certainly hope not!  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on February 18, 2010, 16:45
Dynaudio International GmbH
Ohepark 2, 21224 Rosengarten, Germany
04108 4180-0‎

Above address is the sales & marketing office.

Manufacturing of driver, xover & R&D dept is at Skanderborg, Denmark
Cabinet manufacturing is at Veijle south of Skanderborg
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on February 18, 2010, 16:49
 I have seen the Dynaudio DVD presentation. Although it's dated but they manufacture every piece/part of the spk themselves.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: landis on February 18, 2010, 17:20
Anyway, Vitus also told me some interesting story of this speaker during our beer section, but I don't think it is that suitable (nothing bad actually) to post it out, because I think Vitus have drink a little too much that time..LOL!... ;D

please share with all of us what is the inside scoop. i believe some of us (eg moi) post in our drunken stupor also ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: joamonte on February 18, 2010, 17:24
Dynaudio International GmbH
Ohepark 2, 21224 Rosengarten, Germany
04108 4180-0‎

Above address is the sales & marketing office.

Manufacturing of driver, xover & R&D dept is at Skanderborg, Denmark
Cabinet manufacturing is at Veijle south of Skanderborg

Oh is it?anyway...this is the Sat map of Dyna Denmark...

http://maps.google.com.sg/maps?q=Dynaudio%20Acoustics%20Sindalsvej%2034%20DK-8240%20Risskov&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rlz=1R1GGGL_en___SG359&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wl

I only posted info on what someone who live in Denmark have told me.....I have no further comment since I didn't visit the factory on myself before.... ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: joamonte on February 18, 2010, 17:30
please share with all of us what is the inside scoop. i believe some of us (eg moi) post in our drunken stupor also ;D

Not so good lah.. after all those are personal comment for friend.

Maybe some when we have chance to meet we can talk about it, Singapore's Audiophile circle is small... ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: landis on February 18, 2010, 18:14
no worries we will meet. i may engage your services to redo/treat my rooms in the near future ;)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: venturer on February 18, 2010, 18:50

i click the link, it linked to Dynaudio sales office in Germany

Dynaudio's CEO Wilfried Ehrenholz is a German. Not too surprise that Dynaudio is more German than Danish. But I think the manufacturing plant is in Denmark.


Everyone thought it is from Denmark....but according to my friend Mr Vitus ~~ another very Hi-End manufacturer in Denmark, http://www.vitusaudio.com/default.aspx ,(how "high end?" their 50 Watt integrated amp cost near SGD$30K!! :o ) told me Dynaudio is manufactured in here (chick for the link) (http://maps.google.com.sg/maps?oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&ie=UTF8&q=DYNAUDIO+International+GmbH+Ohepark+2+21224+Rosengarten+Germany&fb=1&gl=sg&hq=DYNAUDIO+International+GmbH&hnear=Ohepark+2+21224+Rosengarten+Germany&ei=G-h8S_nYLYy6tQOg9_GVCg&ved=0CBgQpQY&hl=en&view=map&cid=15251867205310248186&iwloc=A&sa=X) for some reasons now.......

Anyway, Vitus also told me some interesting story of this speaker during our beer section, but I don't think it is that suitable (nothing bad actually) to post it out, because I think Vitus have drink a little too much that time..LOL!... ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Kakarotttan on February 18, 2010, 22:17
Usually around 20% more if I'm not wrong.

Mine is only 10% extra which isn't so bad, maybe the floorstanders charge 20% even more...

That means another 2k more.. But heck, white gloss finish i suppose will be damm chio ar! can match a iPod liao. haha

haha~~I have to buy a new Apple desktop in order to match the C1... ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on February 18, 2010, 22:44
Mine is only 10% extra which isn't so bad, maybe the floorstanders charge 20% even more...

haha~~I have to buy a new Apple desktop in order to match the C1... ;D

Ya..additional 10% more only for glossy white lacquer

20% more for piano black laquer, bird's eye maple and silver soft matt lacquer
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Kakarotttan on February 19, 2010, 02:52
Ya..additional 10% more only for glossy white lacquer

20% more for piano black laquer, bird's eye maple and silver soft matt lacquer

Really? I didn't even know that before...so many choices and confusion... ::)
Thanks for the clarification.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: WaxFree68 on February 19, 2010, 06:38
I am a big fan of Dyanudio too.  but if I have to settled down with one pair of speakers it would be a B&W..
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Kakarotttan on February 19, 2010, 06:53
I am a big fan of Dyanudio too.  but if I have to settled down with one pair of speakers it would be a B&W..

Totally understand...but my music life still worths tweaking for quite a while  :P
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on February 19, 2010, 10:20
I am a big fan of Dyanudio too.  but if I have to settled down with one pair of speakers it would be a B&W..

if UK i am ok. MIC? i think not.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: WaxFree68 on February 19, 2010, 10:30
Totally agree.  this hobby is a journey, not a destination.  Why should we ever settle down?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Kakarotttan on February 19, 2010, 11:43
Totally agree.  this hobby is a journey, not a destination.  Why should we ever settle down?

oops, watch your pocket bro... ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on February 19, 2010, 16:23
Thanks for the answer Lord Hawke~~
Well, the sound change is what I heard...it makes sense if it does slightly, but still not sure... ;D
I just made the down payment for my C1 in high gloss white lacquer finish, it's going to take 10-12 weeks to get it done...
Now every single day just feels extremely tedious to me....

Hi

I own the Black lacquer finish C1.

Good question, does it sound better? Psychologically, it may affect your mood, in-directly it will affect the sound. Imagine, everyday you listen and look at a bright red C1. Will you feel happy...maybe yes or maybe not..

I have some friends who put some "nice" & "Sporty"  sticker onto their cars. They feel that car automaticially increase by 5HP...haha
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on February 19, 2010, 19:21
I recalled someone sharing about C1 pairing with Jeff Rowland Continuum 500, which is also class D and said "it brought tears to my eyes when I go home".

Hi

It's me.

Attached is some pic I have taken from another web site, hope it is ok.

It shows some example of different setup of C1 and other Dynaudio Speaker.

(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/clitang/C1ver8-1.jpg)
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/clitang/C1ver1.jpg)
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/clitang/C1ver5.jpg)
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/clitang/C1ver4.jpg)
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/clitang/C1ver7-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on February 19, 2010, 20:23
Totally understand...but my music life still worths tweaking for quite a while  :P

Totally agreed, there is no end man!!!

Unless you give up the hobby. Just like some of my friends, give up their HiFi hobby and go into another hobby.

(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/clitang/CarKey.jpg)
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/clitang/Car1.jpg)

But after a while this will happen

(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/clitang/HIFI6.jpg)

Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on February 19, 2010, 21:01
I am a big fan of Dyanudio too.  but if I have to settled down with one pair of speakers it would be a B&W..

I am new to Dynaudio, still learning from the bro here.

Seems that you are happy with a B&W. As for me, if I own any of the system below, it will settle me down for a while

(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/clitang/HIFI3.jpg)
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/clitang/HIFI4.jpg)
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/clitang/HIFI5.jpg)
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/clitang/HiFi1.jpg)
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/clitang/HiFi7.jpg)
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/clitang/HiFi2.jpg)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Kakarotttan on February 19, 2010, 23:17
Hi

I own the Black lacquer finish C1.

Good question, does it sound better? Psychologically, it may affect your mood, in-directly it will affect the sound. Imagine, everyday you listen and look at a bright red C1. Will you feel happy...maybe yes or maybe not..

I have some friends who put some "nice" & "Sporty"  sticker onto their cars. They feel that car automaticially increase by 5HP...haha

Hi clitang,
that's a good point~~ fictional factors always exist...

I am new to Dynaudio, still learning from the bro here.

Seems that you are happy with a B&W. As for me, if I own any of the system below, it will settle me down for a while


i have no intention of looking at your pictures...it breaks me like a miserable dog... :'(
i doubt you will hold still when you're high up there... ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: seanyzf on February 19, 2010, 23:52
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/clitang/HiFi1.jpg)

alamak, what's that street lamps doing in the room?  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on February 19, 2010, 23:56
Lai...lai...lai...ah..C1 piano black laquer for sale at buy/sell sections.

Mai tu liao... ;D ;D

Let's see how fast it being snap. ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on February 20, 2010, 01:35
wah make me drool....  :P

My Focus 200C & Audience 42
(http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp332/DJQ96/IMG_0083.jpg)(http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp332/DJQ96/IMG_0084.jpg)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: landis on February 20, 2010, 03:01
alamak, what's that street lamps doing in the room?  ;D

i believe you know that they are the mbl 101s. but if given a choice, i prefer the more value-for-money martin logan electrostatic speakers over these ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on February 20, 2010, 08:32
wah make me drool....  :P

My Focus 200C & Audience 42
(http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp332/DJQ96/IMG_0083.jpg)(http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp332/DJQ96/IMG_0084.jpg)

Bro DJQ, I think you need to go and get the centre base lah looks more chio with it. Hmmmm...colour doesn't blend with your green leh :P maybe you can special order the speakers in GREEN ;D Envoirnment friendly!
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on February 20, 2010, 08:58
Bro DJQ, I think you need to go and get the centre base lah looks more chio with it. Hmmmm...colour doesn't blend with your green leh :P maybe you can special order the speakers in GREEN ;D Envoirnment friendly!

er cannot lah. i already go ikea buy a board platform to raise my LCD higher by an inch so not to obstruct the view. buy that i will have to buy another 2 more platforms. why dun blend? forest mah, cherry is wood~ green is leaves  :P
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: sagibit on February 20, 2010, 09:35
wah make me drool....  :P

My Focus 200C & Audience 42


Isn't there a mismatch in sound if you using 200c as centre and CS2.4 as mains? You get good panning from LCR for fronts? or you use Audience 42 as mains for HT?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on February 20, 2010, 10:11
Isn't there a mismatch in sound if you using 200c as centre and CS2.4 as mains? You get good panning from LCR for fronts? or you use Audience 42 as mains for HT?

Not a very good match for CS2.4 with 200c. I have used CS2.4 and contour center. It is totally out.

I guess Bro DJQ has long term plan. I can smell C1 is coming......

C1...C1....C1...C1...
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on February 20, 2010, 10:15
Lai...lai...lai...ah..C1 piano black laquer for sale at buy/sell sections.

Mai tu liao... ;D ;D

Let's see how fast it being snap. ;D

Thank you

A lot enquiry and funny request but no confirm sale.....Let see how it goes..
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on February 20, 2010, 10:25
Thank you

A lot enquiry and funny request but no confirm sale.....Let see how it goes..

You're welcome bro.

Haha..must be people asking you "Can pay by installment bo" ;D ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on February 20, 2010, 11:33
Isn't there a mismatch in sound if you using 200c as centre and CS2.4 as mains? You get good panning from LCR for fronts? or you use Audience 42 as mains for HT?

yes totally different. cannot match. already put up my mains for sale thru SD.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on February 20, 2010, 11:34
yes totally different. cannot match. already put up my mains for sale thru SD.

The route to C1 is closing in  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dXter on February 20, 2010, 15:34
Hi owners,

Yesterday, I went over to Dynaudio showroom and requested Nicholas to demo a couple of setups and he kindly obliged. Focus 220 with Plinius 9200 (dunno what connecting cable was used) and Contour S1.4 with Densen preamp & power connected with the Nordost. Prefer the sound of the Contour combination more but also made me realised getting a HT system is still a long way off, and gotta settle for stereo first.

However, I am thinking other than the popular matching combinations with Plinius and Densen amps. Has anyone tried with Class D amps like the Wyred4sound STI500/1000?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on February 20, 2010, 15:54
Well I sold my BC s300 before I had a chance to try them on a Dyn spk. W4S classD delivers high clean power to any spk. So you gotta try audition this match before you consider. 
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on February 20, 2010, 18:58
A couple of pages back, someone provided a link (I think to PositiveFeedback) that had a review of the REF1000s (similar to the W4S unit) with C1s. The REF1000s are replaced with the 1000M which adds a revised power supply and better input stage.

Basically when you have a relatively difficult load like 4ohms or lower with average or low sensitivity, you'll benefit from high powered amps. Kal from Stereophile uses the REF1000s then the M upgrades with his 802Ds as a reference system.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dXter on February 20, 2010, 20:38
Ah found the post on page 48, and another review on the web where the W4S STI500 was reviewed to be similar to the BC REF1000, almost like-for-like in sound reproduction. The class D amps are so interesting, offering so much power for much less money.

It would be enlightening to hear from owners with such amps and speakers combination, and to know from them how they differ from the usual plinius  - densen combination commonly seem with most owners here. I think it would be difficult to audition the contours with a W4S. Maybe gotta pay raindrop audio a visit in one of these coming weeks to hear them int amps out.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on February 21, 2010, 09:51
Ah found the post on page 48, and another review on the web where the W4S STI500 was reviewed to be similar to the BC REF1000, almost like-for-like in sound reproduction. The class D amps are so interesting, offering so much power for much less money.

It would be enlightening to hear from owners with such amps and speakers combination, and to know from them how they differ from the usual plinius  - densen combination commonly seem with most owners here. I think it would be difficult to audition the contours with a W4S. Maybe gotta pay raindrop audio a visit in one of these coming weeks to hear them int amps out.

Would you want to consider other Class D amp, like Jeff Rowland, MBL(not sure the amp is class D or not)...There are quite a few Dynaudio fans used Jeff Rowland and MBL to push their Dynaudio speakers, mainly in HK and Taiwan.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dXter on February 21, 2010, 17:06
No experience with any of the amps though.  :P

Looking at the Rowlands, they seem a bit pricey, for the Continuum 250 model would be about more than twice the price of the Plinius 9200. That's out of budget range already.  :-[ They look very pretty though with the trademark wavy design. ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: sty on February 21, 2010, 21:51
Just shifted my Audience 52 to my listening room from my house as some friends want to compare it in my simple budget setup'

(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e256/sty_unilever/Dyn52-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on February 21, 2010, 22:40
wow. so whats the outcome of the comparison?  :)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: sty on February 21, 2010, 22:46
Well, comparing the 52 against RS 1 with my Rotel pre n power amp combi with Marantz CD player.

52 is stonger in the lows while the high seems better with RS 1. Probably due to the Rotel setup.

The 52 also sounded a little harsh as I drive them in mono block mode from my 2 Rotel power amps therefore affecting the performance.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: zingzingla on February 22, 2010, 10:11
Heard from a friend some time back that some audiophiles in the U.S are using Sim Audio electronics and Nordost cables with their Dynaudio's for their great synergy although I can't remember what particular model?
Anyway I'm eyeing either the Focus 220 mk2 or the Excite X32 together with some other brands for an upgrade . I'm using the Primare PRE 30 and A30.2 and Nordost Red Dawn cables with a very old Triangle Zephyr XS speakers and am wondering if anyone has ever tried Primare with Dynaudio speakers before?

Cheers ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on February 22, 2010, 10:13
You may want to check it out Bro Dane. His using Primare pre/pwr with Focus 140.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Kakarotttan on February 22, 2010, 10:31
Heard from a friend some time back that some audiophiles in the U.S are using Sim Audio electronics and Nordost cables with their Dynaudio's for their great synergy although I can't remember what particular model?
Anyway I'm eyeing either the Focus 220 mk2 or the Excite X32 together with some other brands for an upgrade . I'm using the Primare PRE 30 and A30.2 and Nordost Red Dawn cables with a very old Triangle Zephyr XS speakers and am wondering if anyone has ever tried Primare with Dynaudio speakers before?

Cheers ;D

As far as I know, 6moons and stereophile both have great review for Dynaudio & Simaudio combo, but Cardas cabling other than Nordost.
http://www.6moons.com/industryfeatures/ny07_2/ny07.html
Perhaps you have seen this particular review that gives them best sound rate in the show...However, the Simaudio equipments costs more than 6 times the speakers... ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Kakarotttan on February 22, 2010, 10:37
By the way, does anybody here ever use Pass Labs XA.5 series amp to drive C1?? XA60.5 specifically.
Seems like they provide great performance and reasonable price~ Even though Simaudio P7 W7 are pretty much my final decision, I haven't given up finding the best partners for my dear C1 before it arrives.
Thanks~~ :)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: marduk on February 22, 2010, 11:01
Heard from a friend some time back that some audiophiles in the U.S are using Sim Audio electronics and Nordost cables with their Dynaudio's for their great synergy although I can't remember what particular model?
Anyway I'm eyeing either the Focus 220 mk2 or the Excite X32 together with some other brands for an upgrade . I'm using the Primare PRE 30 and A30.2 and Nordost Red Dawn cables with a very old Triangle Zephyr XS speakers and am wondering if anyone has ever tried Primare with Dynaudio speakers before?

Cheers ;D
Hey! I am using primare setup driving the 52SE. I am using the A30.1 and A31.2 (configured in pre/pwr). My cables however is not Nordost.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on February 22, 2010, 12:56
By the way, does anybody here ever use Pass Labs XA.5 series amp to drive C1?? XA60.5 specifically.
Seems like they provide great performance and reasonable price~ Even though Simaudio P7 W7 are pretty much my final decision, I haven't given up finding the best partners for my dear C1 before it arrives.
Thanks~~ :)

Just cusious, how much is the Simaudio W7 power amp and P7 pre amp cost?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: viper1912 on February 22, 2010, 14:16
Heard from a friend some time back that some audiophiles in the U.S are using Sim Audio electronics and Nordost cables with their Dynaudio's for their great synergy although I can't remember what particular model?
Anyway I'm eyeing either the Focus 220 mk2 or the Excite X32 together with some other brands for an upgrade . I'm using the Primare PRE 30 and A30.2 and Nordost Red Dawn cables with a very old Triangle Zephyr XS speakers and am wondering if anyone has ever tried Primare with Dynaudio speakers before?

Cheers ;D

Over at Bolehland....the local distributor using Primare CD31, Primare Pre n Pwr ....model I am not familiar firing the Focus110 . Cabling is with Siltech. I quite like the combination of Primare.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on February 22, 2010, 14:20
Over at Bolehland....the local distributor using Primare CD31, Primare Pre n Pwr ....model I am not familiar firing the Focus110 . Cabling is with Siltech. I quite like the combination of Primare.

Good to hear that you are using Siltech cable. May I know which model do you use, interconnect and speaker cables?

I am using Siltech cable for interconnect and Speaker also.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: viper1912 on February 22, 2010, 16:48
Good to hear that you are using Siltech cable. May I know which model do you use, interconnect and speaker cables?

I am using Siltech cable for interconnect and Speaker also.

Bro Clitang.....

I think you miss read my statement liao....I've auditioned a local distributor setup using Primare n siltech. I am a proud owner of Densen n Nordorst  ;D ;D :D :)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Kakarotttan on February 22, 2010, 22:22
Just cusious, how much is the Simaudio W7 power amp and P7 pre amp cause?

Hello Clitang,
Simaudio P7 & W7 together is $15,000 canadian dollars.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on February 23, 2010, 23:37
Wanna Ask Dyn owners here, i notice fine dust particles on my Audience silk dome tweeters. i know it doesnt affect the sound, but i got an itch to wanna remove the dusts. Saw another bro contour pic also got dust on his tweeter.  ???
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: seanyzf on February 23, 2010, 23:48
Help you answer your question which I have ask nick b4.  ;D

Quote
1. If you're very skillful, you may use a soft cloth which is already very seasoned no fibers comes out easily type, damm it (not too wet) and very lightly wipe it from the dome top to downwards positions.

2. You can use those camera pump to blow the dust off..this is the simplest method but not all dusts or fibers will comes off easily.

Note: please be careful not to poke or dent the soft dome. Above methods is do at your own risk...I'm not responsible for it.

Dynaudio

ps: your iego iec is tigher den a virgin man.. have a hard time pushing it it. haha
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: sjtan on February 23, 2010, 23:48
Wanna Ask Dyn owners here, i notice fine dust particles on my Audience silk dome tweeters. i know it doesnt affect the sound, but i got an itch to wanna remove the dusts. Saw another bro contour pic also got dust on his tweeter.  ???
Bro... My advice, leave it alone. Cover up with the grilles when not using the speakers to minimise exposure to dust.
Dust doesn't affect the sound at all, but if it is accidentally dented during the course of cleaning, then it will definitely affect the hi freq dispersion. DO NOT ATTEMPT to use masking tape or scotch tape to remove the dust. should the special lacquer be peeled off the silk dome together with the dust, there goes your hi frequencies  :'(
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: seanyzf on February 23, 2010, 23:52
Bro... My advice, leave it alone. Cover up with the grilles when not using the speakers to minimise exposure to dust.
Dust doesn't affect the sound at all, but if it is accidentally dented during the course of cleaning, then it will definitely affect the hi freq dispersion. DO NOT ATTEMPT to use masking tape or scotch tape to remove the dust. should the special lacquer be peeled off the silk dome together with the dust, there goes your hi frequencies  :'(

dusts will still stick onto it even with grilles on 24x7..  :( 
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: sjtan on February 23, 2010, 23:55
dusts will still stick onto it even with grilles on 24x7..  :(  
True, but at least it will minimise the effect.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on February 24, 2010, 00:42
ok point noted. dun touch it.  :)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: venturer on February 24, 2010, 01:08
according to Mick Tillman of Dynaudio N/A:


Dynaudio tweeters use a doping compound on the surface.

Scotch tape, duct tape, masking tape, tape worm, etc.. will all cause damage that is not reversible.

if the doping compound is compromised the tweeter will damage

for dented tweeter, the official recommended method is to suck it out with your mouth... no joke...this is the only way to remove the dent properly avoiding damage.

if a tweeter is properly sucked out then 99% of the time it is just fine with maybe a few ripples. The ripples, in many cases, will iron out over time and if not typically have no affect on sound.

refer to here

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=20dbd995b9f578f01f56a3782e1e6841&p=15862125#post15862125

Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: joamonte on February 24, 2010, 01:10


for dented tweeter, the official recommended method is to suck it out with your mouth... no joke...this is the only way to remove the dent properly avoiding damage.




LOL!...DJQ maybe you should try lick the dust away with your tongue.... ;D ;D ;D :-X ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on February 24, 2010, 01:26
LOL!...DJQ maybe you should try lick the dust away with your tongue.... ;D ;D ;D :-X ;D

walau winz!  ::)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Kakarotttan on February 24, 2010, 01:49
according to Mick Tillman of Dynaudio N/A:


Dynaudio tweeters use a doping compound on the surface.

Scotch tape, duct tape, masking tape, tape worm, etc.. will all cause damage that is not reversible.

if the doping compound is compromised the tweeter will damage

for dented tweeter, the official recommended method is to suck it out with your mouth... no joke...this is the only way to remove the dent properly avoiding damage.

if a tweeter is properly sucked out then 99% of the time it is just fine with maybe a few ripples. The ripples, in many cases, will iron out over time and if not typically have no affect on sound.

refer to here

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=20dbd995b9f578f01f56a3782e1e6841&p=15862125#post15862125



 :o...suck it out... :o
does the tweeter worth putting dirt in the mouth?? i guess it depends ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: venturer on February 24, 2010, 01:56
...can't imagine what will gf or wife think if they saw you sucking the tweeter desperately...
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: sjtan on February 24, 2010, 07:52
:o...suck it out... :o
does the tweeter worth putting dirt in the mouth?? i guess it depends ;D
Maybe for the most expensive Esotar tweeers bro.. haha..  ;D Others may not be worthhile..  :P
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: sonofdbn on February 24, 2010, 07:57
LOL!...DJQ maybe you should try lick the dust away with your tongue.... ;D ;D ;D :-X ;D

No need! I would sprinkle some pork floss on it and then borrow the neighbour's dog.....  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Kakarotttan on February 24, 2010, 09:19
No need! I would sprinkle some pork floss on it and then borrow the neighbour's dog.....  ;D

Brilliant idea!!!
but since when we started discussing oral interaction with the Dynaudio......
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: sonofdbn on February 24, 2010, 10:05
Sometimes you need oral interaction to get aural satisfaction.  ;)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on February 24, 2010, 10:25
LOL!...DJQ maybe you should try lick the dust away with your tongue.... ;D ;D ;D :-X ;D

Hahaha..that's a good one there bro Joamonte ;D

After that get poison by the coating from the tweeter. LOL...
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: arcustic on February 24, 2010, 13:02
Wah bros, you guys are so imaginative man.....  ;D ;D  I was reading the thread in my office and was giggling away.  My colleagues were giving me funny looks lol
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on February 24, 2010, 13:26
LOL!...DJQ maybe you should try lick the dust away with your tongue.... ;D ;D ;D :-X ;D

Is there any sound quality improvement after licking the tweeter? Curious to know, maybe this is one good idea to improve sound quality without spending any money...
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: jonlee on February 24, 2010, 13:28
Is there any sound quality improvement after licking the tweeter? Curious to know, maybe this is one good idea to improve sound quality without spending any money...

depends whether ur skill good enough to lubricate the tweeter enough for "enjoyment".   ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on February 24, 2010, 13:54
Is there any sound quality improvement after licking the tweeter? Curious to know, maybe this is one good idea to improve sound quality without spending any money...

Maybe you can try it on your Sapphire Esotar2 tweeter and see whether it improves the sound quality  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Audio on February 24, 2010, 14:49
Lucky this is not Focal thread.....

I would love the sight of someone licking their Beryllium tweeter........   :)

(Audio)

PS: In case, you didn't know Beryllium can be a cancerous substance......
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: joamonte on February 24, 2010, 16:19
Is there any sound quality improvement after licking the tweeter? Curious to know, maybe this is one good idea to improve sound quality without spending any money...

While I am not an expert on licking tweeter, my thought is, will it improve the sound quality is all depend on individual....different tweeter have different sensitivity thus not surprise it always response differently...

~~~Some tweeter like to be lick, and some not..... some don't like it in the beginning but will beg for more you after do it ; you can check did the licking bring in any improvement by watching at how smooth is the motion of the tweeter, when you started to play....song...

Anyway,since the tweeter can be suck , my guess is usually licking is not a problem too, but remember to be gentle and soft because tweeter is very sensitive thing..... ;D ;D :P ;D


Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: venturer on February 24, 2010, 17:38
haha... if we continue sucking, licking & blowing that 'very sensitive thing', this thread will be locked very soon  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: jonlee on February 24, 2010, 17:44
why, cannot sayang our sensitive precious meh?     ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on February 27, 2010, 09:28
My New Toys.

After listening to the Sapphire for the past 3 weeks. I feel that Plinius power amp is a little under power to drive the speakers. So my next step is to see how to improve this area. Also to get a proper HiFi rack to house all the equipment and imporve the room treatment.

(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/clitang/P1010300.jpg)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on February 27, 2010, 10:09
Yeah after i heard them... i was lost for words.  :-X  the Sapphire is really very very top notch. do a check on reviews/forum what bros usually pair them with. you got with you something really awesome that has its potential untapped, waiting for you to discover!  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on February 27, 2010, 10:30
Yeah after i heard them... i was lost for words.  :-X  the Sapphire is really very very top notch. do a check on reviews/forum what bros usually pair them with. you got with you something really awesome that has its potential untapped, waiting for you to discover!  ;D

You went there to get C1 or to get more deeper poison  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on February 27, 2010, 10:34
You went there to get C1 or to get more deeper poison  ;D ;D

get deeper poison lor. no antidote can cure me now.  :P
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on February 27, 2010, 12:24
get deeper poison lor. no antidote can cure me now.  :P

So why wait, stright to Dynaudio showroom and place an order. Enjoy first, later then worry about how to sell your 2.4.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: rahul on February 27, 2010, 12:47
The setup looks really neat !!

Going from monitors to floorstanders, do you not find the size of your room a bit restricting?
I guess you will need to do more room treatment now to control the fuller range sound.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: venturer on February 27, 2010, 13:32

there seems to be some similarity in configuration between Sapphire & Focus 360

someone put a side by side picture to compare them

Focus 360 also use Esotar2. a poor man version of Sapphire? dream on .. Haha

(http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/9676/sapphirefocus1.jpg)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on February 27, 2010, 14:20
there seems to be some similarity in configuration between Sapphire & Focus 360

someone put a side by side picture to compare them

Focus 360 also use Esotar2. a poor man version of Sapphire? dream on .. Haha


LOL...maybe his right at his view point which all the drivers looks the same. :P
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: heuer on February 28, 2010, 03:38
there seems to be some similarity in configuration between Sapphire & Focus 360

someone put a side by side picture to compare them

Focus 360 also use Esotar2. a poor man version of Sapphire? dream on .. Haha

(http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/9676/sapphirefocus1.jpg)

Maybe just a case of better cabinet and drivers thats all. I realized they using Solen Caps only, nothing fanciful in there.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on February 28, 2010, 08:40
The setup looks really neat !!

Going from monitors to floorstanders, do you not find the size of your room a bit restricting?
I guess you will need to do more room treatment now to control the fuller range sound.

Yes, the size of the room is alittle small, that's why the sound image may not be good. What I will do is to imporve the room treatment, rearrange the equipment and move the listening postion further away from the speakers. Hope this will help.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: game_goondu on February 28, 2010, 09:14
Yes, the size of the room is alittle small, that's why the sound image may not be good. What I will do is to imporve the room treatment, rearrange the equipment and move the listening postion further away from the speakers. Hope this will help.

now u need to upgrade to a bigger house to put your sapphire.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: sty on February 28, 2010, 12:45
This is something that always bug me on upgrading. Once u upgrade something better u will find the rest not up to par n will eventually need to upgrade the rest and it will or might become a never ending story.  :-\

Better to stop at the point when everything is in eynergy n try to enjoy it for as long as I can.  ;D

I dont want to pay money n buy headache.  :)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: seanyzf on February 28, 2010, 12:56
Yes, the size of the room is alittle small, that's why the sound image may not be good. What I will do is to imporve the room treatment, rearrange the equipment and move the listening postion further away from the speakers. Hope this will help.

y not consider making your living room into your listening area since it's much bigger and big floor standers should operate more efficient?   
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: douce on February 28, 2010, 13:01
Hi i am new to this forum and i need some advice. I am looking for a pair bookshelf recently. A close friend want to let go his 805S with stand to me at a good price but before i commit , i was wondering how it compared with Dynaudio 110, S1.4(most likely out of budget). Anyone here have compared them already?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Quest on February 28, 2010, 13:51
This is something that always bug me on upgrading. Once u upgrade something better u will find the rest not up to par n will eventually need to upgrade the rest and it will or might become a never ending story.  :-\

Better to stop at the point when everything is in eynergy n try to enjoy it for as long as I can.  ;D

I dont want to pay money n buy headache.  :)
reminds me of this audio chart that shows...

upgrade amp -> upgrade speaker -> upgrade cdp -> tweak -> repeat  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: sty on February 28, 2010, 15:06
reminds me of this audio chart that shows...

upgrade amp -> upgrade speaker -> upgrade cdp -> tweak -> repeat  ;D


upgrade amp -> upgrade speaker -> upgrade cdp -> tweak -> repeat 

Yeah man. Not happy after tweaking please repeat the above process all over again.  :D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on February 28, 2010, 15:09
This is something that always bug me on upgrading. Once u upgrade something better u will find the rest not up to par n will eventually need to upgrade the rest and it will or might become a never ending story.  :-\

Better to stop at the point when everything is in eynergy n try to enjoy it for as long as I can.  ;D

I dont want to pay money n buy headache.  :)

Yes, I agreed. I guess this is part of the hobby. If you are in this, then this is part of the process. I do enjoy the process of upgarding, shopping around what to get. I seldom hear any HiFi fans can stick to their equipment for a long time.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on February 28, 2010, 15:11
y not consider making your living room into your listening area since it's much bigger and big floor standers should operate more efficient?   

Not in my plan. I have 2 kids and I have a projector/HT setup. So put all my gear in the living hall is not a good idea.

Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on February 28, 2010, 15:39
now u need to upgrade to a bigger house to put your sapphire.

Yes, I hope I have a fully sound treated room with size 4m x 6m. in the basement of my landed house. ;D ;D ;D

However, base on the high price of the property in Singapore, as mentioned in the other "Property" tread, S$1M is nothing, it can't even buy a 120m-sq apartment in AMK or Toa Payoh. :'(
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on February 28, 2010, 19:57
XI kinda understand this wash rinse repeat process. The tweaks I made recently made the sound really really sweet and even Redbook sounds pretty damn good. But the asymmetrical layout is now more obvious with a bit more prominence in the the bass on the left side. Solution: new room? Or new room in new house? ;)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on February 28, 2010, 20:53
Hi i am new to this forum and i need some advice. I am looking for a pair bookshelf recently. A close friend want to let go his 805S with stand to me at a good price but before i commit , i was wondering how it compared with Dynaudio 110, S1.4(most likely out of budget). Anyone here have compared them already?

hi, being user if both types plus having heard 805s & 110. It is really best you audition both them you decide which you should go for. Pairing of equipment is very, I repeat very important. Esle you will not hear what you heard.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: sty on March 01, 2010, 00:05
Yes, I agreed. I guess this is part of the hobby. If you are in this, then this is part of the process. I do enjoy the process of upgarding, shopping around what to get. I seldom hear any HiFi fans can stick to their equipment for a long time.

Yup! Especially when one can afford to spend and have the free time to shop n listen. Anyway, its true that seldom HiFi fans can stick to their equipment for long that is why in my statement I say to enjoy mine as long as I can. But that is just me lah.

Anyway, while typing this, I am already thinking of changing my CD player but it is the budget type lah.  ;D

Enjoy the hobby and upgrading man!  :)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stwessed on March 01, 2010, 01:20
This is something that always bug me on upgrading. Once u upgrade something better u will find the rest not up to par n will eventually need to upgrade the rest and it will or might become a never ending story.  :-\

Better to stop at the point when everything is in eynergy n try to enjoy it for as long as I can.  ;D

I dont want to pay money n buy headache.  :)

find this to be very true. even though my system is considered cheap to you guys here!!

it's really paying money to get more headache. and soon, if things don't turn out well, it becomes heartache.

do you guys feel that sometimes it's much more relaxing listening to music in the car when you're driving or just some songs (songs which you don't have in your CD collection) from youtube via your $100 desktop speakers?

for me, i guess it's because i got too frustrated trying to solve one problem after another in my system. till i find more enjoyment in the abovementioned.

i guess one good solution will be to just buy exactly the same system you like at a particular shop. and stop going to forums. just enjoy what you have. but of course, in order to buy the exact same system @ the shop, usually means...having to spend quite a huge sum.

do you guys often find that you're spending too much on audio? especially if you go for 1st hand items..

IMO, there're so much more other things in life to spend on. that's why sometimes it's really beneficial to be contented. but of course, there should be a minimum standard to meet before you should be contented.

sorry for the OT!
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: fengshenwee on March 01, 2010, 02:07
find this to be very true. even though my system is considered cheap to you guys here!!

it's really paying money to get more headache. and soon, if things don't turn out well, it becomes heartache.

do you guys feel that sometimes it's much more relaxing listening to music in the car when you're driving or just some songs (songs which you don't have in your CD collection) from youtube via your $100 desktop speakers?

for me, i guess it's because i got too frustrated trying to solve one problem after another in my system. till i find more enjoyment in the abovementioned.

i guess one good solution will be to just buy exactly the same system you like at a particular shop. and stop going to forums. just enjoy what you have. but of course, in order to buy the exact same system @ the shop, usually means...having to spend quite a huge sum.

do you guys often find that you're spending too much on audio? especially if you go for 1st hand items..

IMO, there're so much more other things in life to spend on. that's why sometimes it's really beneficial to be contented. but of course, there should be a minimum standard to meet before you should be contented.

sorry for the OT!

There is really no right or wrong. If listening on your $100 desktop and youtube makes u happy. Good for u. Enjoy them

For some, making mistakes, solving them and continuous upgrade is fun and they feel it is a great way to spend our money. Is not really work if u enjoy it. They fully feel it is justified just like the ladies who like to spend thousands on branded bags and shoes.

Personally, I have a friend who dun care about audio or the crappy 15inch LCD screen he is looking at for the pass 7-8 years. Can u say he is wrong?

As long one is happy, I dun see any wrong in it as long he or she doing things within his/her means. I feel my audio system kick ass and I dun see me ever going back to simple PC speakers. Long live audiophiles!!! lol



Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stwessed on March 01, 2010, 02:18
i meant to say.. once in a while.. it's relaxing to listen to desktop speakers bc u don't have to be bothered by the performance. this feeling comes on only if your system is not to your 100% liking.

there is some fun in experimenting.. but the problem is do you have all the money in the world to experiment? it's costly. i feel the pinch. many others may like the pinch or have deeper wallets..

of course, after having my system, i know what a proper audio system can do. it's definitely hard to abandon the whole audio system and just drop back to desktop speakers.

a proper audio system will definitely sound better than desktop. but one that is not nicely matched may bring along some irritants. e.g. bright/harsh sound. this can be irritating.

and that's when on some days, you find it's more relaxing to not have to care about the problems of your hifi and have a causal listen from your car/desktop speakers or even while taking a walk at HMV/other music stores.

these places/sources may not have the perfect sound. but they do not have any thing which is particularly irritating. it's just very casual listening.

cheers... ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Quest on March 01, 2010, 07:48
i guess one good solution will be to just buy exactly the same system you like at a particular shop. and stop going to forums. just enjoy what you have. but of course, in order to buy the exact same system @ the shop, usually means...having to spend quite a huge sum.
this may not work out just cos of different room which is the largest determinant of how it would all eventually sound, not to mention power supply, placement, and other miscellaneous items such as the rack. even then, when you buy the same model of equipment/speaker, it may also sound different than the demo cos its a different piece..

know what u are saying though. :) i also made similar comment about simple systems awhile back cos was just getting frustrated trying to get the right sound. but unfortunately this is the price to pay for going for 'so-called' hi-end. once you reach the end though, you will probably be satisfied for quite some time to come. took me almost 1 yr to get a sound that i feel sounds decent now.

as for experimenting, try to depend on home trial and visiting or borrowing from other forumers instead of buy/selling if possible.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on March 01, 2010, 08:42
There is really no right or wrong. If listening on your $100 desktop and youtube makes u happy. Good for u. Enjoy them

For some, making mistakes, solving them and continuous upgrade is fun and they feel it is a great way to spend our money. Is not really work if u enjoy it. They fully feel it is justified just like the ladies who like to spend thousands on branded bags and shoes.

Personally, I have a friend who dun care about audio or the crappy 15inch LCD screen he is looking at for the pass 7-8 years. Can u say he is wrong?

As long one is happy, I dun see any wrong in it as long he or she doing things within his/her means. I feel my audio system kick ass and I dun see me ever going back to simple PC speakers. Long live audiophiles!!! lol

although your friend is not wrong, but i feel you have a part to let him hear/see the difference by getting slightly better speaker/equipment. whether he/she decides is worth it anot is another question. not really 1 shot spend over a few $k but getting something more decent than a $100 desktop speaker.  :)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: arcustic on March 01, 2010, 11:34
IMHO, non-audiophiles and audiophiles have very different listening preferences.  One is that most non-audiophiles listen to music in the background. They don't concentrate on music.  Therefore as long as there is sound, they are ok with it.  No soundstage, no depth, no scale, no imaging, they are still fine. Audiophiles on the other hand, sit down and listen, and we want everything....to the extent that we even what to hear when the singer swallows his/her saliva.

Take the analogy of a car.  Some would only require a car that can take them from point A to point B. Others would like their car to look good, powerful, comfortable, luxurious, etc.

Therefore, I have never try to influence anyone around me about hi-fi unless there is a interest in them.



 
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on March 01, 2010, 12:27
oic, i didnt know we term non-audiophiles and audiophiles this way. i am not asking them to be an audiophile. but mearly asking them to have a listen. see which they like/prefer. the rest is up to them, i dun always sit down in the center to seriously listen. but i sure like good sonics on my setup when i am working on my PC in a corner.  :)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: arcustic on March 01, 2010, 15:06
Sorry if I term it wrongly...I don't know any other words than to group it that manner.  No intention to offend  ;)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: fengshenwee on March 01, 2010, 15:55
although your friend is not wrong, but i feel you have a part to let him hear/see the difference by getting slightly better speaker/equipment. whether he/she decides is worth it anot is another question. not really 1 shot spend over a few $k but getting something more decent than a $100 desktop speaker.  :)

I seriously tried and showed him but he is the type that cannot be bothered. Can he can tell the difference? I am sure he can. But do I think he think it is worth it. NO.... because his philosophy in life is use everything till it spoil. Can use can already. A 5 dollar mouse is as good as a 100 dollar one. Same with audio. 80% of his life is earning money.

i meant to say.. once in a while.. it's relaxing to listen to desktop speakers bc u don't have to be bothered by the performance. this feeling comes on only if your system is not to your 100% liking.

there is some fun in experimenting.. but the problem is do you have all the money in the world to experiment? it's costly. i feel the pinch. many others may like the pinch or have deeper wallets..

of course, after having my system, i know what a proper audio system can do. it's definitely hard to abandon the whole audio system and just drop back to desktop speakers.

a proper audio system will definitely sound better than desktop. but one that is not nicely matched may bring along some irritants. e.g. bright/harsh sound. this can be irritating.

and that's when on some days, you find it's more relaxing to not have to care about the problems of your hifi and have a causal listen from your car/desktop speakers or even while taking a walk at HMV/other music stores.

these places/sources may not have the perfect sound. but they do not have any thing which is particularly irritating. it's just very casual listening.

cheers... ;D

I got a lousy headphone amp to remind myself how awesome my current set up is. I think I understand y are would rather listen to a simple setup(nothing good but also nothing bad) is because u feel there is weakness in your setup(my guess it is too bright) that u cannot ignore and unable to solve it yet. I guess I am just happy with almost everything on my setup and thus listen to everything from youtube to CDs on them. Would like to tone down the brightness in my system, bigger soundstage thus on the hunt for a new pair of speakers again. Maybe dynaudio or B&W again thus looking around this wonderful thread. :)

Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Quest on March 01, 2010, 17:35
I seriously tried and showed him but he is the type that cannot be bothered. Can he can tell the difference? I am sure he can. But do I think he think it is worth it. NO.... because his philosophy in life is use everything till it spoil. Can use can already. A 5 dollar mouse is as good as a 100 dollar one. Same with audio. 80% of his life is earning money.
i felt like commenting on this cos just a few years ago i was like ur friend. ;D
could not tell any difference between $50 PC speaker and $5k setup for music, and have friends who are still like that. :)
i think perception and willingness to listen plays a very big part on the enjoyment of audio.

this applies even when one becomes an 'audiophile', as one has to be open and receptive to hearing different systems.
often i realise 'audiophiles' tend to concentrate on certain aspects and may eventually forget to look for musicality.
of course.. what is musical to one person can also be different to another.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: sty on March 01, 2010, 20:42
To some people, music is just music n it is to listen to enjoy n relax. As long as the music play out isn't distorted or noisy it should be ok. I remember long time ago, one of my friends become so obsess with being an audiophile that he stop listenning to pop cd's because the recording cannot match his system. He start to listen to all the good recording cd's and miss out on what he once like very much and that is the pop cd's.

I basically now listen to everything from pop to even classical n just enjoy whatever that comes out from my system  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on March 01, 2010, 23:38
yeah thats what i was really trying to put thru. i know some bros here can really tell a bad recording vs a really good one.
anyway we are deviating from Dyn topic liao. maybe lets have a show of hands who are some potential Dyn owners. i know fengshenwee is one. for starters go audition a Excite X12, for your bedroom it should suffice. you be amazed! dun listen any others hor... wait you kanna poison deep deep.  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: sty on March 01, 2010, 23:49
yeah thats what i was really trying to put thru. i know some bros here can really tell a bad recording vs a really good one.
anyway we are deviating from Dyn topic liao. maybe lets have a show of hands who are some potential Dyn owners. i know fengshenwee is one. for starters go audition a Excite X12, for your bedroom it should suffice. you be amazed! dun listen any others hor... wait you kanna poison deep deep.  ;D

Haha, actually I am already thinking of getting my first brand new Dynaudio speakers for my bedroom n shift the Audience 52 to my pleasure room. The only brand new Dynaudio I can afford now is only the Excite X12. But will have to wait till I come back from Japan in early April. Having a company trip to Japan end of this month and afraid that I might burn a big hole spending there especially buying some limited edition handbag for wife.  :'(
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: fengshenwee on March 02, 2010, 00:42
yeah thats what i was really trying to put thru. i know some bros here can really tell a bad recording vs a really good one.
anyway we are deviating from Dyn topic liao. maybe lets have a show of hands who are some potential Dyn owners. i know fengshenwee is one. for starters go audition a Excite X12, for your bedroom it should suffice. you be amazed! dun listen any others hor... wait you kanna poison deep deep.  ;D

Thanks for the recommendation. I was thinking of the focus series actually. Maybe the 110 or the 140. May I know the retail price of each?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on March 02, 2010, 08:18
Haha, actually I am already thinking of getting my first brand new Dynaudio speakers for my bedroom n shift the Audience 52 to my pleasure room. The only brand new Dynaudio I can afford now is only the Excite X12. But will have to wait till I come back from Japan in early April. Having a company trip to Japan end of this month and afraid that I might burn a big hole spending there especially buying some limited edition handbag for wife.  :'(

Not only Excite X12, there's also DM2/6, 7 & 8 all within your range :D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on March 02, 2010, 08:21
Thanks for the recommendation. I was thinking of the focus series actually. Maybe the 110 or the 140. May I know the retail price of each?

Good choice. Best selling model is Focus 110.

Retail price is $2395 for 110 and $3200 for 140  :D :D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: marduk on March 02, 2010, 11:57
Good choice. Best selling model is Focus 110.

Retail price is $2395 for 110 and $3200 for 140  :D :D
How about the X12?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on March 02, 2010, 12:16
How about the X12?

$1735 per pair  ;)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on March 02, 2010, 12:30
haha all these prices will scare them away. by only by listening to the speakers can bring them back. got the hint?  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on March 02, 2010, 17:46
Hmmm...well, if buyers are serious on the purchase they can always ask me for better price. Like what you did...didn't you?  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: hca2 on March 02, 2010, 21:14
Hmmm...well, if buyers are serious on the purchase they can always ask me for better price. Like what you did...didn't you?  ;D
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maybe you can give us special discount to all xtremeplace member. thanks
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dXter on March 02, 2010, 23:27
Hmmm...well, if buyers are serious on the purchase they can always ask me for better price. Like what you did...didn't you?  ;D

ok next time I go into showroom again. Will ask.  :o
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on March 02, 2010, 23:50

maybe you can give us special discount to all xtremeplace member. thanks

hahaha u wait any longer.... the more you pay. price is all time high. discount was 5yrs ago. damn i didnt dare walk into Dynaudio Singapore cause the retail prices scared the hell outta me 4yrs ago! now it still is.

btw you own any Dynaudio yet?  :D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on March 03, 2010, 00:19


maybe you can give us special discount to all xtremeplace member. thanks
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Bro....you asked me numerous times I gave you good discount and yet you still thinking............................... :-\ :-\ :-\

Models and prices have changed and increased and you still thinking.....how to buy like that? :P
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: venturer on March 03, 2010, 03:32

an interesting question:

what's the proper way to pronounce Dynaudio?
Dine-audio or Dyna-audio?

haha... you can find the answer if you google...   ;D

Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: fengshenwee on March 03, 2010, 03:46
an interesting question:

what's the proper way to pronounce Dynaudio?
Dine-audio or Dyna-audio?

haha... you can find the answer if you google...   ;D



Dine-audio. I only learn about it recently. lol
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on March 03, 2010, 10:33
yeah but we are so used to pronoucing Dyna-audio.  :P
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on March 03, 2010, 11:52
Just to share abit with you guys on the prices increased in 2010. It's worldwide so the prices that i quoted in this forum are already updated.

http://www.whathifi.com/News/Dynaudio-to-raise-prices-from-January-1st-2010/
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: venturer on March 03, 2010, 12:50
this is new... now come a computer Notebook with built-in 'Dynaudio Premium Sound'  :o

MSI GT660 gaming laptop is unviel in CeBIT 2010


(http://www.msi.com/uploads/Image/news_img/100303_4.jpg)

(http://news.softpedia.com/images/news2/MSI-GT660-Shows-Its-Face-at-CeBIT-2010-2.jpg)
(http://news.softpedia.com/images/news2/MSI-GT660-Shows-Its-Face-at-CeBIT-2010-4.jpg)
(http://news.softpedia.com/images/news2/MSI-GT660-Shows-Its-Face-at-CeBIT-2010-3.jpg)


http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=newsdesc&news_no=969

Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on March 03, 2010, 13:22
wah esotec tweeter can play full range?  ;D didnt see 2 silk domes leh.  ::)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: venturer on March 03, 2010, 13:51
i guess the mini driver look like the one as shown in the pic found in the all-in-one lcd computer, don't think can output any real bass

(http://image.itmedia.co.jp/pcuser/articles/1003/02/l_kn_msipre_03.jpg)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on March 03, 2010, 16:30
this is new... now come a computer Notebook with built-in 'Dynaudio Premium Sound'  :o

MSI GT660 gaming laptop is unviel in CeBIT 2010


(http://www.msi.com/uploads/Image/news_img/100303_4.jpg)

(http://news.softpedia.com/images/news2/MSI-GT660-Shows-Its-Face-at-CeBIT-2010-2.jpg)
(http://news.softpedia.com/images/news2/MSI-GT660-Shows-Its-Face-at-CeBIT-2010-4.jpg)
(http://news.softpedia.com/images/news2/MSI-GT660-Shows-Its-Face-at-CeBIT-2010-3.jpg)


http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=newsdesc&news_no=969



Wow, is the speaker next to the presentor is the Dynaudio Evidence Tempation? Now Dynaudio high end speaker also dispaly at IT show......
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on March 06, 2010, 18:58
Gentleman,

There's a pair of Contour S3.4 on sale. Check it out  :D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Kakarotttan on March 09, 2010, 07:30
i start to wonder when will Dynaudio upgrade their current Contour and Confidence lines since they've been around for quite a while...
not i want them to, especially i just made an order for the C1, but just curious...
a lot of models using Esotar2 now, making me feel less valuable about my C1  :'(

Even laptop has Dynaudio speakers!!! gee......
hope the mass production won't affect the top notch sound quality~~ ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: sjtan on March 09, 2010, 08:02
i start to wonder when will Dynaudio upgrade their current Contour and Confidence lines since they've been around for quite a while...
not i want them to, especially i just made an order for the C1, but just curious...
a lot of models using Esotar2 now, making me feel less valuable about my C1  :'(

Even laptop has Dynaudio speakers!!! gee......
hope the mass production won't affect the top notch sound quality~~ ;D
Consider your C1 to cost say another five thousand dollars more if they are using Esotar2... Then maybe you won't feel this way.. I also think that you won't spend SGD$16,000 for a pair of monitors right?? ;) It should not be the case cos if the Contour and Confidence series are using Esotar2 and the highs are on par with the Evidence and Consequence UE, people will just settle for the cheaper alternatives instead of buying the top notch series.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on March 09, 2010, 08:20
i start to wonder when will Dynaudio upgrade their current Contour and Confidence lines since they've been around for quite a while...
not i want them to, especially i just made an order for the C1, but just curious...
a lot of models using Esotar2 now, making me feel less valuable about my C1  :'(

Even laptop has Dynaudio speakers!!! gee......
hope the mass production won't affect the top notch sound quality~~ ;D

There won't be new replacement models for the contour & confidence at the present moment.
Yes, some of the top range models are using the Esotars2 tweeters but the tweeters are all customized to each particular models xover, cabinets etc...so no doubt they are Esotar2 but they are different in sound. You can't use Temptation's esotar2 tweeter and fit it into C1, it won't work.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: hca2 on March 09, 2010, 09:35
i just get 1 audience 122 second hand, i think need to upgrade next time save some cash 1st



maybe you can give us special discount to all xtremeplace member. thanks


Bro....you asked me numerous times I gave you good discount and yet you still thinking............................... :-\ :-\ :-\

Models and prices have changed and increased and you still thinking.....how to buy like that? :P
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Kakarotttan on March 09, 2010, 10:23
Consider your C1 to cost say another five thousand dollars more if they are using Esotar2... Then maybe you won't feel this way.. I also think that you won't spend SGD$16,000 for a pair of monitors right?? ;) It should not be the case cos if the Contour and Confidence series are using Esotar2 and the highs are on par with the Evidence and Consequence UE, people will just settle for the cheaper alternatives instead of buying the top notch series.

but C1 is using Esotar2 right??
it's totally fine if they stay on the current price... ;D
yeah...true...that's why i don't understand how come the Focal Diablo Utopia costs so much while the sound isn't worth that much i suppose....
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Kakarotttan on March 09, 2010, 10:28
There won't be new replacement models for the contour & confidence at the present moment.
Yes, some of the top range models are using the Esotars2 tweeters but the tweeters are all customized to each particular models xover, cabinets etc...so no doubt they are Esotar2 but they are different in sound. You can't use Temptation's esotar2 tweeter and fit it into C1, it won't work.

i see...thanks~~
i'm just curious if you've seen any white lacquer C1 at all??
mine will be in that finish which isn't very common, so wonder how they look...
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on March 09, 2010, 10:45
i see...thanks~~
i'm just curious if you've seen any white lacquer C1 at all??
mine will be in that finish which isn't very common, so wonder how they look...

Sorry, so far we don't have any customer who ordered the white lacquer before. I myself never see it. I've sold before rosewood in transparent lacquer, bird's eyes maple & piano black lacquer.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on March 09, 2010, 12:26
i see...thanks~~
i'm just curious if you've seen any white lacquer C1 at all??
mine will be in that finish which isn't very common, so wonder how they look...

I am very curious to see how a white lacquer C1 looks like. Actually, I have not see any speaker with white finish.

Can post a picture when you receive it?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Quest on March 09, 2010, 13:46
but C1 is using Esotar2 right??
it's totally fine if they stay on the current price... ;D
yeah...true...that's why i don't understand how come the Focal Diablo Utopia costs so much while the sound isn't worth that much i suppose....
hate to barge in.. but have u heard the focal diablo and compared? :)
i guess then the whole focal utopia range is over-priced in ur opinion cos the scala is already much more expensive than the C2, not to mention maestro vs C4 and beyond. if so.. that's great savings for you!
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Kakarotttan on March 09, 2010, 13:55
I am very curious to see how a white lacquer C1 looks like. Actually, I have not see any speaker with white finish.

Can post a picture when you receive it?

not a problem~~ i'd love to share some pictures...
but it won't be another 2 months until i receive them...killing me...
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Kakarotttan on March 09, 2010, 14:03
hate to barge in.. but have u heard the focal diablo and compared? :)
i guess then the whole focal utopia range is over-priced in ur opinion cos the scala is already much more expensive than the C2, not to mention maestro vs C4 and beyond. if so.. that's great savings for you!

i haven't heard the Diablo Utopia, neither the C1 i'm getting...  :P
well...monitor speakers costing that much is already judgemental for some customers...
i only read some posts suggesting that speakers slightly cheaper or in the same price range expose no overall disadvantage against Diablo Utopia, but of course, that's other people's opinion. plus i personally only interested in stand-mounted speakers, if i have the money, i'll definitely buy them just for the sake to hear the sound for myself. ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on March 09, 2010, 15:32
wah bro... never hear just buy? base on reviews only?  ??? woah...

so what setup you have ready for the C1?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: sonofdbn on March 09, 2010, 16:48
I am very curious to see how a white lacquer C1 looks like. Actually, I have not see any speaker with white finish.

Can post a picture when you receive it?

I suspect the real question is: will it match my white iPhone/iPod/iPad  ;)?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: francis woo on March 09, 2010, 17:22
I suspect the real question is: will it match my white iPhone/iPod/iPad  ;)?

Wah, so fast, order iPad already ah!!!.......... ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Kakarotttan on March 09, 2010, 21:45
wah bro... never hear just buy? base on reviews only?  ??? woah...

so what setup you have ready for the C1?

hello bro DJQ...
I will have to fly several hundred of miles just to hear them...
I currently own the Focus 140, with Simaudio I3.3, and really enjoy the sound...the cd player Raysonic CD128 is now the weakest chain in the set up...but it does look awesome~~ ;D
so I doubt the C1 will disappoint...especially in the muh bigger apartent I'm moving in soon. :P

since I do like the dynamic paring of Dynaudio and Simaudio, I'll stick with this combo, Simaudio P7+W7 for the C1...
still not sure about the CD player though, considering Marantz SA-7S1 or Accuphase DP-600 to add a little bit warmth and sweetness
or simply go for the Simaudio Andromeda to optimize the hi-fi performance...but it costs twice as much as the C1... :(
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: seanyzf on March 09, 2010, 22:22
R u in the States? ppl there seems to like pairing dynaudio with simaudio.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Kakarotttan on March 09, 2010, 22:39
R u in the States? ppl there seems to like pairing dynaudio with simaudio.

I'm in Canada~~which is even closer to Simaudio.. :)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on March 09, 2010, 23:29
hello bro DJQ...
I will have to fly several hundred of miles just to hear them...
I currently own the Focus 140, with Simaudio I3.3, and really enjoy the sound...the cd player Raysonic CD128 is now the weakest chain in the set up...but it does look awesome~~ ;D
so I doubt the C1 will disappoint...especially in the muh bigger apartent I'm moving in soon. :P

since I do like the dynamic paring of Dynaudio and Simaudio, I'll stick with this combo, Simaudio P7+W7 for the C1...
still not sure about the CD player though, considering Marantz SA-7S1 or Accuphase DP-600 to add a little bit warmth and sweetness
or simply go for the Simaudio Andromeda to optimize the hi-fi performance...but it costs twice as much as the C1... :(

holy moley!
http://www.simaudio.com/moonp7.htm
http://www.simaudio.com/moonw7.htm

now this is something different. 300Watts to 4ohms, C1 will sing with this setup. sorry i am very much a watts person. but not any more. this Moon really got very impressive built quality.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: game_goondu on March 09, 2010, 23:52
this is new... now come a computer Notebook with built-in 'Dynaudio Premium Sound'  :o

MSI GT660 gaming laptop is unviel in CeBIT 2010


(http://www.msi.com/uploads/Image/news_img/100303_4.jpg)

(http://news.softpedia.com/images/news2/MSI-GT660-Shows-Its-Face-at-CeBIT-2010-2.jpg)
(http://news.softpedia.com/images/news2/MSI-GT660-Shows-Its-Face-at-CeBIT-2010-4.jpg)
(http://news.softpedia.com/images/news2/MSI-GT660-Shows-Its-Face-at-CeBIT-2010-3.jpg)


http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=newsdesc&news_no=969



this is the first time i see hifi speaker in laptop... some more its a dynaudio.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Kakarotttan on March 10, 2010, 03:08
holy moley!
http://www.simaudio.com/moonp7.htm
http://www.simaudio.com/moonw7.htm

now this is something different. 300Watts to 4ohms, C1 will sing with this setup. sorry i am very much a watts person. but not any more. this Moon really got very impressive built quality.

 ;D...yeah...true...I believe the system will sound amazing, but I'm concerned if I'll get bored listening to too much hi-fi kind of style all the time...
Actually specification wise, the W7 looks like a step down in terms of transformers size, power storage, continuous and peak ampere output etc. compare to the old W5, but as I confirmed with the Simaudio and other authorized dealers, the Evolution Series uses significant improved design than the older ones...not exactly in the same league...which I theoretically believe...  :)
and bro DJQ, do you happen to have any suggestion on the CD player choices??
I'm still uncertain...losing hair making decisions....will soon look like the gentleman in the picture introducing IT products...
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Quest on March 10, 2010, 07:29
I'm still uncertain...losing hair making decisions....will soon look like the gentleman in the picture introducing IT products...
You are only feeling this way cos you are not willing to fly out to have a listen to all the products at hand and have to believe in other people's opinions and online reviews which are very subjective. Everyone has different opinions and hearing experiences, mass opinion, as you know, is not very trustworthy usually, and you wonder if you are trusting the right review.

I do understand you have limitations but the amount of hours you spend online trawling for information and worrying + potential loss from your equipment purchases should already offset this. You mentioned if you had the money, you would be willing to buy a Utopia Diablo just to hear the difference yourself? I think that amount could easily fly you to your nearest city and have a short holiday going around to hear stuff. I have friends in other countries who email or call the dealers ahead of time to make appointments and do the same for equipment costing much less than your budget. Domestic flights or coach does not cost that much I am sure.

If you are not willing to go out to have a listen, then I suggest to just take it with a pinch of salt and accept it! I am sure most combinations would sound fine, especially if you have no basis for comparison!

If you like the raysonic looks and want something a step up from your cdp, can look at the ayon cd2.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Kakarotttan on March 10, 2010, 08:10
You are only feeling this way cos you are not willing to fly out to have a listen to all the products at hand and have to believe in other people's opinions and online reviews which are very subjective. Everyone has different opinions and hearing experiences, mass opinion, as you know, is not very trustworthy usually, and you wonder if you are trusting the right review.

I do understand you have limitations but the amount of hours you spend online trawling for information and worrying + potential loss from your equipment purchases should already offset this. You mentioned if you had the money, you would be willing to buy a Utopia Diablo just to hear the difference yourself? I think that amount could easily fly you to your nearest city and have a short holiday going around to hear stuff. I have friends in other countries who email or call the dealers ahead of time to make appointments and do the same for equipment costing much less than your budget. Domestic flights or coach does not cost that much I am sure.

If you are not willing to go out to have a listen, then I suggest to just take it with a pinch of salt and accept it! I am sure most combinations would sound fine, especially if you have no basis for comparison!

If you like the raysonic looks and want something a step up from your cdp, can look at the ayon cd2.

Thanks Quest, I totally agree with you...
the reason I go online to find information is to help me nail down to an acceptable range of brands that I can actually start with.
I don't intend to go out audition equipments due to geographic limitations, and most importantly, is that the sound at the dealer's place tends to be significantly different from what I hear at my own place due to environmental treatments, system pairing, hours on the gears etc.
What I get is a very fundamental characteristic of a particular brand or model, which most of the time is true from what people say.
and I will piss away so much money and may owe a huge amount of debt if I actually listen to some attractive poisons and find them each very seducive in its own way...hahaha.
overall, you're right, get whatever I can and just settle with it. That's what I'm actually doing, start with reading reviews, and nail down to "the one"... :P
Thanks for the Ayon suggestion, I'll look it up...
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on March 12, 2010, 19:53
;D...yeah...true...I believe the system will sound amazing, but I'm concerned if I'll get bored listening to too much hi-fi kind of style all the time...
Actually specification wise, the W7 looks like a step down in terms of transformers size, power storage, continuous and peak ampere output etc. compare to the old W5, but as I confirmed with the Simaudio and other authorized dealers, the Evolution Series uses significant improved design than the older ones...not exactly in the same league...which I theoretically believe...  :)
and bro DJQ, do you happen to have any suggestion on the CD player choices??
I'm still uncertain...losing hair making decisions....will soon look like the gentleman in the picture introducing IT products...

there is a vast lot of really good CD players around but i am not really exposed to really high end ones. those i am familiar with and heard are Cyrus, Denon, Marantz, shanling and Clitang's pricy $$$ Wadia cdp. i only have a Denon 4010 to play my CD/SACD collection.  :-X
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on March 13, 2010, 00:37
Anyone here knows where in SG can we find Simaudio moon amps? tought of going to have a look.  :)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Kakarotttan on March 13, 2010, 09:47
there is a vast lot of really good CD players around but i am not really exposed to really high end ones. those i am familiar with and heard are Cyrus, Denon, Marantz, shanling and Clitang's pricy $$$ Wadia cdp. i only have a Denon 4010 to play my CD/SACD collection.  :-X

thanks bro, I have seen some pictures of Clitang's...lot of good stuff~~

Anyone here knows where in SG can we find Simaudio moon amps? tought of going to have a look.  :)

from the Simaudio website: Singapore   
AVP SoundCraft LLP   
444A Race Course Road  65-62987833 
Singapore 218688

which I suppose by SG you meant Singapore?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on March 13, 2010, 10:21
thanks bro, I have seen some pictures of Clitang's...lot of good stuff~~

from the Simaudio website: Singapore   
AVP SoundCraft LLP   
444A Race Course Road  65-62987833 
Singapore 218688

which I suppose by SG you meant Singapore?

hi well yeah. i did saw the name and address, afriad they might be only distributer without showroom to demo. will give them a call. Thanks
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: seanyzf on March 13, 2010, 10:52
AVP has a showroom as they also sell Verity.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Kakarotttan on March 13, 2010, 11:55
hi well yeah. i did saw the name and address, afriad they might be only distributer without showroom to demo. will give them a call. Thanks
No problem~
From my experience of Simaudio, I did find my I3.3 sounded more hi-fi than music-engaging at the first listen...
sometimes even a little electronic which creates fatigue (maybe cuz I turn the volume too high in such limited space as well),
I let it run in, since I live in a university campus house and there is no extra charge on electricity (I wish I have some huge class A amplifiers... ;D), the amp is only off when I sleep or study. It changes, a lot, significant improvement. That's why I decide to use the entire Simaudio Evolution line to drive the C1...
I doubt you will dislike them~~ maybe not like them enough depending on your taste  :)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on March 13, 2010, 12:24
thanks bro, I have seen some pictures of Clitang's...lot of good stuff~~

from the Simaudio website: Singapore   
AVP SoundCraft LLP   
444A Race Course Road  65-62987833 
Singapore 218688

which I suppose by SG you meant Singapore?

Hi

Thanks. My equipment is nothing compare to some of the bro here. Still a long way to go.

About Simaudio, heard a lot of good review about it but still no chance to listen to any setup. Will pop into the showroom to take a look. Would be listed on my wish list.

Now in my wish list for Amp/Pre Amp

1) Jeff Rowland - Model 625 power amp / Criterion Preamplifier
2) Plinius - SA reference power amp /  Tautoro Pre Amp
3) ???
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: adamsandler on March 13, 2010, 14:00
Expand your horizons.......

when you are at AVP, you must listen to the Nagra set-up with Verity speakers.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: joamonte on March 15, 2010, 13:25
Expand your horizons.......

when you are at AVP, you must listen to the Nagra set-up with Verity speakers.

So in your opinion, Nagra + Verity will sound better than the same price range dynaudio set up?  ::) ;D ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: joamonte on March 15, 2010, 13:42
(http://www.stereophile.com/images/archivesart/409ver.1.jpg)

BTW....have you guy notice some of the Verity speaker woofer look similar design with Dynaudio?

From what I know, no, it is not from Dyna, but design by some Ex-employee of Dyna who working in other brand now...

 :)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on March 15, 2010, 15:22
hmm the midbass driver cone in the center very much similiar to Dyn.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: arcustic on March 16, 2010, 11:27
So in your opinion, Nagra + Verity will sound better than the same price range dynaudio set up?  ::) ;D ;D

Not necessary. Its very subjective and depends on individual.  I have heard the set up...very big presentation but I don't find it involving. You have to listen to it to judge for yourself.

In fact, if you are there, have a listen to the German-Physiks Carbon MK IV and HRS 120 driven by Simaudio.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: joamonte on March 16, 2010, 15:24

In fact, if you are there, have a listen to the German-Physiks Carbon MK IV and HRS 120 driven by Simaudio.

Wah! too high end for me, later get poison and cannot listen back my own system how? ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: arcustic on March 17, 2010, 11:10
Wah! too high end for me, later get poison and cannot listen back my own system how? ;D ;D ;D

Change lol...... ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: adamsandler on March 17, 2010, 23:09
The Verity drivers are manufactured by AudioTechnology under Verity's specifications.

Personally, I do enjoy the Verity sound more and I guess it's a matter of taste.  Go listen to it and find out if it suits your needs as mentioned by the others in this forum.  German Physiks versus Verity, I much prefer Verity's presentation.  Of course, AVP would have sold it's fair share of German Physiks speakers, hence catering to another audience. :)

 
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: arcustic on March 20, 2010, 00:25
The Verity drivers are manufactured by AudioTechnology under Verity's specifications.

Personally, I do enjoy the Verity sound more and I guess it's a matter of taste.  Go listen to it and find out if it suits your needs as mentioned by the others in this forum.  German Physiks versus Verity, I much prefer Verity's presentation.  Of course, AVP would have sold it's fair share of German Physiks speakers, hence catering to another audience. :)

 
Well said bro adamsandler.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: shsoh on March 20, 2010, 20:09
The Verity drivers are manufactured by AudioTechnology under Verity's specifications.

Personally, I do enjoy the Verity sound more and I guess it's a matter of taste.  Go listen to it and find out if it suits your needs as mentioned by the others in this forum.  German Physiks versus Verity, I much prefer Verity's presentation.  Of course, AVP would have sold it's fair share of German Physiks speakers, hence catering to another audience. :)

 

I forgot about Verity. Where can I audition the speakers? Heard that the shop is located near Mustafa?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on March 21, 2010, 01:30
yo dyn users i was wondering since got C1, C2, C4. whatever happened to C3?  :P
why the Confidence C2,C4 must be double drivers..... they should make a C3 with High, Midrange, Low. ( Esotar2 Tweeter, 6inch midrange, 8inch Midbass)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: venturer on March 21, 2010, 06:19

I guess the naming is because last time got Confidence 3 & 5. So now C1,2 & 4 lor.

Thre was a Dynaudio Acoustics C3 ... quite ugly but should be a good speaker for the studio environment, does use Esotar and sort of High, Midrange, Low

(http://www.greymarketmastering.com/studio/dynaudioC3.jpg)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on March 21, 2010, 08:46
yo dyn users i was wondering since got C1, C2, C4. whatever happened to C3?  :P
why the Confidence C2,C4 must be double drivers..... they should make a C3 with High, Midrange, Low. ( Esotar2 Tweeter, 6inch midrange, 8inch Midbass)

There's C3 & C5 in the olden days which is damm difficult to drive but if driven well by good amps they really sing :D

http://www.dynaudio.com/eng/archive/lines/confidence/confidence5.php

"why the Confidence C2,C4 must be double drivers" READ THIS... http://www.dynaudio.com/eng/tech/ddc.htm



Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on March 21, 2010, 11:16
I guess the naming is because last time got Confidence 3 & 5. So now C1,2 & 4 lor.

Thre was a Dynaudio Acoustics C3 ... quite ugly but should be a good speaker for the studio environment, does use Esotar and sort of High, Midrange, Low

(http://www.greymarketmastering.com/studio/dynaudioC3.jpg)


wah that time really have ah. That's what I really have in mind for a ideal floorstander with these 3 drivers. Now I see like not so nice. Invert it tweeter below is best. ( siao tio Dyn poison liao)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on March 21, 2010, 11:21
There's C3 & C5 in the olden days which is damm difficult to drive but if driven well by good amps they really sing :D

http://www.dynaudio.com/eng/archive/lines/confidence/confidence5.php

"why the Confidence C2,C4 must be double drivers" READ THIS... http://www.dynaudio.com/eng/tech/ddc.htm
Ah I see ok ok. Will do some reading  :)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: seanyzf on March 21, 2010, 13:34
There's C3 & C5 in the olden days which is damm difficult to drive but if driven well by good amps they really sing :D


oh my.. that C5 has a sensitivity at 83 db.. wonder wad amps r use to drive this monster.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on March 21, 2010, 16:29
(http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp332/DJQ96/IMG_0095.jpg)

well something like this?  ;D dun wan the lower 3 drivers.  :-X

but read the reason for it... so we wont see this version.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Quest on March 21, 2010, 17:11
well something like this?  ;D dun wan the lower 3 drivers.  :-X

but read the reason for it... so we wont see this version.
can you buy 1 piece and saw it into half to make it into a pair? ;D ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: venturer on March 21, 2010, 21:26
a 30 years old Dynaudio 100

(http://n2.vatera.hu/photos/7e/70/8b9_1_big.jpg)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on March 22, 2010, 13:21
wah really old.... :o
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on March 24, 2010, 16:07
how how? what spk to buy? some bro on buying spree... i am still thinking.....
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Quest on March 24, 2010, 18:23
how how? what spk to buy? some bro on buying spree... i am still thinking.....
what u mean how.. i thought ur choice was obvious? C1??
now you want to buy C2 or C4 izzit?? or u want to get them to customise u a C3?? :P
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: jimi on March 24, 2010, 18:37
Yeah, the C1s might give you better sound if you haven't got a big space for floorstanders. Plus the price is v good.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: jimi on March 24, 2010, 18:38
Am sure your missus will appreciate the smaller form factor and the beauty of the speakers too  ;)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on March 24, 2010, 18:46
Am sure your missus will appreciate the smaller form factor and the beauty of the speakers too  ;)

Ya..small means cheaper  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on March 24, 2010, 21:05
Haha. Yeah thanks guys. Already got approval to "downgrade" to bookshelfs. Dun think there will be a C3 lah. But I still like the scale a full range floorstander can give.  
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on March 27, 2010, 15:54
(http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp332/DJQ96/C1.jpg)
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on March 27, 2010, 16:00
Welcome to the Confidence Club  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Quest on March 27, 2010, 16:02
wa.. congrats la bro. :) i hope you will finally be happy with your sound!
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on March 27, 2010, 16:05
From now onwards our bro DJQ have to eat 3 meals all with bread with butter liao ;D ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on March 27, 2010, 16:24
OMG... reminds me of a gambling quote i saw.
If you need to save money on food so you can gamble, you have crossed the line.  :-X

erm this few days my breakfast really bread & butter wor.....  ;)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: rahul on March 27, 2010, 17:45
Congrats on your purchase !!
So what amp are you pairing this with?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: francis woo on March 27, 2010, 18:39
OMG... reminds me of a gambling quote i saw.
If you need to save money on food so you can gamble, you have crossed the line.  :-X

erm this few days my breakfast really bread & butter wor.....  ;)

You can also drop by my place for fresh Nespresso coffee on the way to work..... ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on March 27, 2010, 20:04
Congrats on yr purchase.

Think it was a no brainer :) right, Nick?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Audio on March 27, 2010, 21:07
Congrats bro.

Next time, no need to wayang wayang in front of your bro here!! :)  I won't bite.  Ha ha ha...

Show me picture of the boxes and still tell me you have not ordered......

(Audio)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on March 27, 2010, 23:03
Haha ok ok. but that time havent really decide yet mah.  :-X its the same picture i showed you wor.  ;D

as for the amps, most likely Densen pre power amps to match them up evenly.

oh ya, i saw you mentioned to DH about blu ray is the way to move forward. i too found that out when Quest showed me the difference on the 2. i got the Chris Botti live in Boston CD.DVD and Blu-ray. now there is really no way backwards.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dXter on March 27, 2010, 23:50
Congrats on the purchase. Densen pre and power will also be at around the same price I think. Got the matching stand 4 for the C1 too?

Not to mention Chris Botti. Even MJ This is It, the difference between CD and BD is also audible.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Quest on March 27, 2010, 23:53
hehe btw i saw the boxes still untouched at the shop. ;) expected them to be in ur home already.
now only 1 level of poison reached.. still haven't start on the densen and nordost poison yet.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on March 28, 2010, 00:02
Hi DQJ

Welcome to the club. Today I have notice 2 bros in the forum have move away from CS2.4

Good to see you have choosen C1. So I guess the next step is to get a matching Pre/power amp, follow by a good pair of speaker cable. Burn in for 250 - 500 hrs.

Rememebr to invite me to your place to listen to your new toys ok?

Thank you

Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on March 28, 2010, 00:11
Hi DJQ

One suggestion, you should get a new HiFi rack to house all your new toys. I remember you use some ikea shelves right. It don't do justice to your system.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on March 28, 2010, 00:21
haha thanks to your poison wor. but for 5secs i was crasy enough not to buy it but save enough till yr end to buy what you got.... then i was thinking i will need to bigger house.  :-X haha anyway just a tought... maybe 4 yrs later.  ;)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on April 01, 2010, 00:26
Finally completed installing the Stand4 onto the C1, took me 1hour.  :P
well for now can only drive it with the Denon 4310. will share more as i progress my upgrade. 1st impressions, super boomy bass. as recommended must run-in 50hrs or so before the sound gets better. as i previously mentioned about this C1 really awesome dynamics. cannot sleep, listening to low levels for now. will listen high levels over the weekends.  :D
(http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp332/DJQ96/IMG_0103.jpg)(http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp332/DJQ96/IMG_0104.jpg)
(http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp332/DJQ96/IMG_0105.jpg)(http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp332/DJQ96/C1-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on April 01, 2010, 00:43
C1 driven by 4310!?? RUnuts!?? :)

When's the W4S or eAR coming!??
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on April 01, 2010, 08:17
Hey, your cherry finish look nice leh. :D Bare with the boom now it will go away after run-in :'(  chao chao you need to clock 300-500 hrs to hear the full potential of the C1 :'( Since you using it for HT as main should be pretty fast for you ;D

Lots of trials n error have to be done especially on the placing of speaker to get it sound right :'( took me quite awhile to get it. Bopian, you want the best need to go thru this ;D

Enjoy your listen this long weekend and have CONFIDENCE! 8) 8)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on April 01, 2010, 09:01
Hi DJQ

Hope you have enjoy your new C1. Driving it with AVR smp is no good. Would suggest to get a burn in CD to run it. It will shorten the burn in period. For me, I have run it for 24x7 for the first few days. After about 250 hrs, it sounds much better, but still have the boom boom....

After some room treatment, it is much better now. It takes time to experience. The higher you go, the more you hear and more things to take care.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on April 01, 2010, 15:27
Hey, your cherry finish look nice leh. :D Bare with the boom now it will go away after run-in :'(  chao chao you need to clock 300-500 hrs to hear the full potential of the C1 :'( Since you using it for HT as main should be pretty fast for you ;D

Lots of trials n error have to be done especially on the placing of speaker to get it sound right :'( took me quite awhile to get it. Bopian, you want the best need to go thru this ;D

Enjoy your listen this long weekend and have CONFIDENCE! 8) 8)

yeah thanks. The cherry finish grains similar to my center 200C. Really very happy. Can't wait to get home every night to listen to it.  :)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on April 01, 2010, 15:32
Hi DJQ

Hope you have enjoy your new C1. Driving it with AVR smp is no good. Would suggest to get a burn in CD to run it. It will shorten the burn in period. For me, I have run it for 24x7 for the first few days. After about 250 hrs, it sounds much better, but still have the boom boom....

After some room treatment, it is much better now. It takes time to experience. The higher you go, the more you hear and more things to take care.

yeah i'm considering Densen pre-power. Going to Xaudio to get taoc footers for the C1.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Audio on April 01, 2010, 16:37
Going to Xaudio to get taoc footers for the C1.

Cannot, you don't have OT tonight meh??   :)

(Audio)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on April 01, 2010, 22:31
yeah i'm considering Densen pre-power. Going to Xaudio to get taoc footers for the C1.


Can you let me know how much is the Taoc footers? I have just purchased FE caraball, to me it is better then Taoc footers. You might want to consider FE caraball. I know one of the bro here is using it with C1.

Besides Densen, are you considering other pre/power? Plinius, Jeff Rowland, PassLab, Ayre, Simaudio?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on April 01, 2010, 23:07
the Taoc footers are $220 box of 4pcs. not familiar with FE caraball.
yes might be looking at Plinius and Simaudio. if the coming sat i am free might go audition simaudio.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on April 02, 2010, 00:34
the Taoc footers are $220 box of 4pcs. not familiar with FE caraball.
yes might be looking at Plinius and Simaudio. if the coming sat i am free might go audition simaudio.

Which model of Taoc footers are you looking at?

The ceraball can be directly replace the spike below the C1 stands. The result is very good.

http://www.finite-elemente.de/en/zubehoer/ceraball (http://www.finite-elemente.de/en/zubehoer/ceraball)

Please share you view after you have audited the simaudio. I am interested also.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: RonaldSK on April 02, 2010, 02:51
Hello and greeting from Slovakia-Europe...maybe you know this country via IceHockey :)

1st. please sorry for my english , is a little bit poor...

I am very happy that i find a real BIG Dynaudio thread on whole internet.I own Dynaudio speakers too,maybe can i add myself to your group :) My setup is made from lower budget (slovakia....). Dynaudio A42 , Velodyne VX10 ,  NADC352 , NADC542 , Pro-Ject Expression mkIII , and XLO speaker and signal cables. I newer seen before so wonderfull rooms and equipments like you have , its fantastic.

I you have interess i can make some photos too about my dyns :) A little bit technical question guys,maybe can somebody anwear me = I want to uprade the Dynaudio CABLES (speaker-crossover) cables , because i heard , that dynaudio uses in this speaker range a very very low budget cable not OCOS.I want to ask , if have somebody done this upgrade or if its here maybe a member,who can give me photos or tips how to chance this cables and which cable can i fit there (i dont want open the dyns,before dont have enough info for this step...) Or if its my info about cables right..

Thank you very much guys for help and for this thread.

Once time sorry for my ,,KID,, english..I want to write you much more things but i cant find the good words for that...I need to learn...

Greeting from Slovakia !

Ronald !
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Kakarotttan on April 02, 2010, 07:21
the Taoc footers are $220 box of 4pcs. not familiar with FE caraball.
yes might be looking at Plinius and Simaudio. if the coming sat i am free might go audition simaudio.

I'm also very interested in the Simaudio/Dynaudio pairing.
I heard some people saying the combo sounds somewhat dry, and much prefer Pass Labs XA series.
My current Simaudio i3.3 + Focus 140 does appear to have this little problem, but not bringing much attention compare to the positive features.
So bro DJQ, please share your opinions after the audition~~I'm a potential Simaudio user for C1 in the very near future.
Thanks a lot~~
Do you have chance to audition Pass Labs as well??  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Quest on April 02, 2010, 10:00
the Taoc footers are $220 box of 4pcs. not familiar with FE caraball.
yes might be looking at Plinius and Simaudio. if the coming sat i am free might go audition simaudio.
i will be around bt timah area. let me know when u are heading down? :)
may be interesting in hearing their dac.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on April 02, 2010, 10:47

A little bit technical question guys,maybe can somebody anwear me = I want to uprade the Dynaudio CABLES (speaker-crossover) cables , because i heard , that dynaudio uses in this speaker range a very very low budget cable not OCOS.I want to ask , if have somebody done this upgrade or if its here maybe a member,who can give me photos or tips how to chance this cables and which cable can i fit there (i dont want open the dyns,before dont have enough info for this step...) Or if its my info about cables right..

Thank you very much guys for help and for this thread.

Greeting from Slovakia !

Ronald !

Hi Ronald, welcome to XP.

I've just replaced my Focus 110 internal wiring to Van Den Hul Clearline speaker cable. It's a 14AWG multi strains copper cables. I was surprised by the drastic improvement on the sound quality. Very smooth highs and airy, bass is much more control with good pronouce midrange :o I really love the sound and the cables are not expensives.

All you need to do is replace the cables 1 by 1 from the A42 X-over to the tweeter and woofer. You must also replace the cables that connect from the speaker binding post to the X-over. You'll need to soldered them. I used Cardas soldering lead which gives good results :D

http://www.vandenhul.com/p_C02.aspx
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: gs11tan on April 02, 2010, 12:03

 consider the Chord SPM 1200 ?
  I have tried to pair with my Dynaudio Compound 3 (sealed box spk) and it was good.
  good luck.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: RonaldSK on April 02, 2010, 23:43
Hi Ronald, welcome to XP.

I've just replaced my Focus 110 internal wiring to Van Den Hul Clearline speaker cable. It's a 14AWG multi strains copper cables. I was surprised by the drastic improvement on the sound quality. Very smooth highs and airy, bass is much more control with good pronouce midrange :o I really love the sound and the cables are not expensives.

All you need to do is replace the cables 1 by 1 from the A42 X-over to the tweeter and woofer. You must also replace the cables that connect from the speaker binding post to the X-over. You'll need to soldered them. I used Cardas soldering lead which gives good results :D

http://www.vandenhul.com/p_C02.aspx

Stealth , Hello and thank you very much for your reply ! I have two questions about the crossover cables. Was the original cables made by OCOS or it was a cheap no name?Which cables have you changed = crossover treble , crossover bass , crossover-terminal cable?Or all?

Thank you !

Greetings Ronald !

Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on April 03, 2010, 00:20
i will be around bt timah area. let me know when u are heading down? :)
may be interesting in hearing their dac.

yeah ok. should be going Xaudio, will drop u a msg before i set off for AVP.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on April 03, 2010, 00:26
I'm also very interested in the Simaudio/Dynaudio pairing.
I heard some people saying the combo sounds somewhat dry, and much prefer Pass Labs XA series.
My current Simaudio i3.3 + Focus 140 does appear to have this little problem, but not bringing much attention compare to the positive features.
So bro DJQ, please share your opinions after the audition~~I'm a potential Simaudio user for C1 in the very near future.
Thanks a lot~~
Do you have chance to audition Pass Labs as well??  ;D

sure. i am just going to sound out how the sim sound signature would be with Dyn pairing. Pass Labs? emm  dun think so. if i have time again next weekend will check it out. need to do some reading on Pass Labs . which is recommended? or rather the one you have in mind?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on April 03, 2010, 00:36
Which model of Taoc footers are you looking at?

The ceraball can be directly replace the spike below the C1 stands. The result is very good.

http://www.finite-elemente.de/en/zubehoer/ceraball (http://www.finite-elemente.de/en/zubehoer/ceraball)

Please share you view after you have audited the simaudio. I am interested also.

how much are these? Can't really see how the ceraball is replaced.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on April 03, 2010, 01:37
how much are these? Can't really see how the ceraball is replaced.

Un-screw the spike below the Dynaudio speaker stand, replace it with the Finite-Element Ceraball. The result is good.

It cost $280 for a set of 4. Check it out at Music By Design.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Kakarotttan on April 03, 2010, 03:32
sure. i am just going to sound out how the sim sound signature would be with Dyn pairing. Pass Labs? emm  dun think so. if i have time again next weekend will check it out. need to do some reading on Pass Labs . which is recommended? or rather the one you have in mind?

greetings DJQ,
I heard the XA60.5 is powerful enough to drive the C1 with dynamic , quick and punchy sound, similar to the Simaudio, but more liquidity and warmth.
Based on the specs, Simaudio W7 has 18 continuous amperes supply, while the XA60.5 has 20 maximum, slightly above W7 since it's class A. for sure, XA100.5 would be even better but more money as well~~
I guess the XP-20 preamp is also slightly better than P7? or much better...never known...
Anyway, Simaudio is still the first on my list. So I'd love to hear from you soon. Good hunting  :)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on April 03, 2010, 08:05
Stealth , Hello and thank you very much for your reply ! I have two questions about the crossover cables. Was the original cables made by OCOS or it was a cheap no name?Which cables have you changed = crossover treble , crossover bass , crossover-terminal cable?Or all?

Thank you !

Greetings Ronald !



Haha..OCOS is only used in the Evidence series & Cosequence UE. your audience is only some cheap cables from no brand with very thin gauge. My focus series comes with those copper cables that some of us used for surround cables. They used to used VDH copper cables previously but now change to generic ones..

I replaced all the cables inside with VDH Clearline tweeters, woofer and cables from bindingpost to xover. My advise is stick to copper cables. If you use silver cables it might totally changed the whole characteristics of the Dyns...
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on April 03, 2010, 08:16
how much are these? Can't really see how the ceraball is replaced.

It's $280 for 4pcs. This is how you replace your stand 4 spikes. Fully recommended!  8)

(http://i512.photobucket.com/albums/t322/rotti15/DSC00113.jpg?t=1270253603)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on April 03, 2010, 09:06
It's $280 for 4pcs. This is how you replace your stand 4 spikes. Fully recommended!  8)

(http://i512.photobucket.com/albums/t322/rotti15/DSC00113.jpg?t=1270253603)

ah nice. which do you recommend? was about to go buy Taoc till i saw your picture.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on April 03, 2010, 09:57
ah nice. which do you recommend? was about to go buy Taoc till i saw your picture.

Strongly recommend to use FE Careball. Iam using it with my Sapphire. I can't comment it is better then TAOC or not. I have not used it before.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on April 03, 2010, 10:33
Strongly recommend to use FE Careball. Iam using it with my Sapphire. I can't comment it is better then TAOC or not. I have not used it before.

Bro, not regret right? Actually you should go for the Cerapuc since your Sapphire is heavy enough..should even helps to improve the sound more :o
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: RonaldSK on April 03, 2010, 17:14
Haha..OCOS is only used in the Evidence series & Cosequence UE. your audience is only some cheap cables from no brand with very thin gauge. My focus series comes with those copper cables that some of us used for surround cables. They used to used VDH copper cables previously but now change to generic ones..

I replaced all the cables inside with VDH Clearline tweeters, woofer and cables from bindingpost to xover. My advise is stick to copper cables. If you use silver cables it might totally changed the whole characteristics of the Dyns...

Hi stealth, thanks for answer. Now i know,that is necessary to change this cables.i use in my whole setup xlo-brand cables. Signal+speaker cables too. What do you think about to use this brand of cable on x-over? I think,this cables have very good quality,neutrality. Are made in usa,but i dont know if somebody from forum use this cables. . . I always read about other cables here. . .
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on April 03, 2010, 17:34
Hi stealth, thanks for answer. Now i know,that is necessary to change this cables.i use in my whole setup xlo-brand cables. Signal+speaker cables too. What do you think about to use this brand of cable on x-over? I think,this cables have very good quality,neutrality. Are made in usa,but i dont know if somebody from forum use this cables. . . I always read about other cables here. . .

Sorry I'm not familiar with XLO cables but I know they're good. Sorry can't comment on this whether are they good for internal wiring.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on April 04, 2010, 13:57
Bro, not regret right? Actually you should go for the Cerapuc since your Sapphire is heavy enough..should even helps to improve the sound more :o

Hi Bro,

I will love to have the cerapuc, it cost about S$600 for set of 4. For this price and the different in SQ is not alot,  I would stick to ceraball.

I need to save up for my next minor upgrade....
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: swat on April 04, 2010, 18:21
guys,

I have just bought Focus 220 from Nicholas and now looking to upgrade my amplifier too. What would you guys suggest as the best combination with focus. I have currently Roksan Kandy K2 which I don't think will do justice to these speakers.

Any opinion will be greatly appreciated.

I must say one thing about them, they sounded muddy in bass department. however, as I had no choice with restricted budget.

cheers,

Swat
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on April 04, 2010, 18:30
Hi bro swat. Good buy on the focus220. Is yours the mkII version? Actually the whole setup plays a big role in getting the sound you seeking to achieve. As for ur muddy bass room treatment and placement is one which u can check on 1st. 
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: swat on April 04, 2010, 21:21
Thanks DJQ

this is the earlier version as I want to upgrade later on for C4 so wanted to spend less money to start with. I had Joamonte coming to my place and i will be spending money there too, just want to go step by step. so the next thing on my mind is good amp for these speakers.

what do you guys suggest

cheers,

Swat
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: marduk on April 04, 2010, 23:16
It's $280 for 4pcs. This is how you replace your stand 4 spikes. Fully recommended!  8)

(http://i512.photobucket.com/albums/t322/rotti15/DSC00113.jpg?t=1270253603)
So how about the speaker stand to the floor? Do you use the FE accessories between the stand and floor?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on April 04, 2010, 23:27
bro this is for the stand to the floor. pic is overturned to show in detail.  ;)

i recently got mine fixed with it.  ;D
(http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp332/DJQ96/IMG_0107.jpg)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: xerox on April 04, 2010, 23:48
guys,

I have just bought Focus 220 from Nicholas and now looking to upgrade my amplifier too. What would you guys suggest as the best combination with focus. I have currently Roksan Kandy K2 which I don't think will do justice to these speakers.

Any opinion will be greatly appreciated.

I must say one thing about them, they sounded muddy in bass department. however, as I had no choice with restricted budget.

cheers,

Swat


Try Naim. Fast and punchy.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Quest on April 05, 2010, 00:40
greetings DJQ,
I heard the XA60.5 is powerful enough to drive the C1 with dynamic , quick and punchy sound, similar to the Simaudio, but more liquidity and warmth.
Based on the specs, Simaudio W7 has 18 continuous amperes supply, while the XA60.5 has 20 maximum, slightly above W7 since it's class A. for sure, XA100.5 would be even better but more money as well~~
I guess the XP-20 preamp is also slightly better than P7? or much better...never known...
Anyway, Simaudio is still the first on my list. So I'd love to hear from you soon. Good hunting  :)
Hi, went to hear the Simaudio with DJQ so he can add on with his comments.

It's definitely a dynamic and open sounding sounding amp, but abit on the pricey side for its performance.. I also felt the overall Simaudio combo, while it has its pluses, should be paired with a different cdp or dac to add some life to the system. Back to the amp, it may be able to match well with the dynaudios as the dyn's darker character should be able to take it. The more subjective thing is really on the overall tonality of Simaudio which is harder to comment on.

I personally would prefer the passlabs from what I recall of it though it's been awhile.. someone recently told me it is more similar to Plinius, which I am a user, so no surprises as to my preference.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Kakarotttan on April 05, 2010, 01:57
Hi, went to hear the Simaudio with DJQ so he can add on with his comments.

It's definitely a dynamic and open sounding sounding amp, but abit on the pricey side for its performance.. I also felt the overall Simaudio combo, while it has its pluses, should be paired with a different cdp or dac to add some life to the system. Back to the amp, it may be able to match well with the dynaudios as the dyn's darker character should be able to take it. The more subjective thing is really on the overall tonality of Simaudio which is harder to comment on.

I personally would prefer the passlabs from what I recall of it though it's been awhile.. someone recently told me it is more similar to Plinius, which I am a user, so no surprises as to my preference.

Thanks for the input Quest,
I do personally prefer the pass labs at some point, and too feel that Simaudio is a little overpriced...that's why i have been hesitating... :)
but I believe only xp-20 can get the best out of C1, pairing with XA60.5 power amp, slightly out of my reach...since I have a better deal with Simaudio, I may add another source component to adjust the overall tonality...thinking about Marantz and Accustic Arts...
hoping to hear from DJQ... :P
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Kakarotttan on April 05, 2010, 03:08
Hi, went to hear the Simaudio with DJQ so he can add on with his comments.

It's definitely a dynamic and open sounding sounding amp, but abit on the pricey side for its performance.. I also felt the overall Simaudio combo, while it has its pluses, should be paired with a different cdp or dac to add some life to the system. Back to the amp, it may be able to match well with the dynaudios as the dyn's darker character should be able to take it. The more subjective thing is really on the overall tonality of Simaudio which is harder to comment on.

I personally would prefer the passlabs from what I recall of it though it's been awhile.. someone recently told me it is more similar to Plinius, which I am a user, so no surprises as to my preference.

by the way, do you mind me ask the exact set-up you were listening to please? including cables~~thanks
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: marduk on April 05, 2010, 10:02
bro this is for the stand to the floor. pic is overturned to show in detail.  ;)

i recently got mine fixed with it.  ;D
(http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp332/DJQ96/IMG_0107.jpg)
:o...Aiyo...thanks for the picture...Can the footers be adjusted to suit the floor irregularities? Will the stand slide since the flooring is smooth? Do you place any spikes between the speaker and the stand? Thanks.... ???
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on April 05, 2010, 10:37
:o...Aiyo...thanks for the picture...Can the footers be adjusted to suit the floor irregularities? Will the stand slide since the flooring is smooth? Do you place any spikes between the speaker and the stand? Thanks.... ???

Once the speaker sit on the floor it's damm stable. You still can do fine adjustment on the Ceraball for uneven floor. Yoz bro, his C1 is fixed directly to the stand 4 so there's no spikes between the speaker and stand.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on April 05, 2010, 13:12
Yoz bros,

Focus 110 cherry on sale at audio buy/sell planet. Mai tu liao...conditions sui sui... ;D

Let's see how fast it snap up..
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on April 06, 2010, 00:43
Yoz bros,

Focus 110 cherry on sale at audio buy/sell planet. Mai tu liao...conditions sui sui... ;D

Let's see how fast it snap up..

gone in 1hr.  :)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on April 06, 2010, 01:00
Thanks for the input Quest,
I do personally prefer the pass labs at some point, and too feel that Simaudio is a little overpriced...that's why i have been hesitating... :)
but I believe only xp-20 can get the best out of C1, pairing with XA60.5 power amp, slightly out of my reach...since I have a better deal with Simaudio, I may add another source component to adjust the overall tonality...thinking about Marantz and Accustic Arts...
hoping to hear from DJQ... :P

hi bro, it will be difficult to comment further without isolating away other equipments used. not familiar with the spk and cables used in the setup. on kinder tone its a different range altogether, Myself and Quest played very technical tracks we are familiar with. Rick mentions to set my expectations sky high when i come for the audition. i would not pay for a power amp which is more exp than my current speaker. But take note if the speakers were to be C2,C4 or even Sapphire. i reckon it would be a good match. The power amp has a very strong character that can bring out the best of some spks in its class. i remember there is 1 overseas forumer still waiting for his C1 to be matched with his moon amp. it will help if he can share more.
Bro clitang, you might want to check out the Simaudio moon amp W7.
yet to listen pass labs, are they also in the high price range?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Kakarotttan on April 06, 2010, 01:11
hi bro, it will be difficult to comment further without isolating away other equipments used. not familiar with the spk and cables used in the setup. on kinder tone its a different range altogether, Myself and Quest played very technical tracks we are familiar with. Rick mentions to set my expectations sky high when i come for the audition. i would not pay for a power amp which is more exp than my current speaker. But take note if the speakers were to be C2,C4 or even Sapphire. i reckon it would be a good match. The power amp has a very strong character that can bring out the best of some spks in its class. i remember there is 1 overseas forumer still waiting for his C1 to be matched with his moon amp. it will help if he can share more.
Bro clitang, you might want to check out the Simaudio moon amp W7.
yet to listen pass labs, are they also in the high price range?

Hi DJQ, glad to hear from you~~
haha~~seems like you're not very impressed by the Simaudio  ;D
Pass labs is on a much higher level than Simaudio, XA60.5 mono amp costs $10,000 US a pair, which is only the second last of their class A amplifiers, but should be enough all around to drive C1~~
I'm hoping the Canadian dollars to continue soaring up, til the point where I can afford such combo~~hehe
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on April 06, 2010, 01:22
Hi DJQ, glad to hear from you~~
haha~~seems like you're not very impressed by the Simaudio  ;D
Pass labs is on a much higher level than Simaudio, XA60.5 mono amp costs $10,000 US a pair, which is only the second last of their class A amplifiers, but should be enough all around to drive C1~~
I'm hoping the Canadian dollars to continue soaring up, til the point where I can afford such combo~~hehe

Oh no, do not get me wrong. i was just not so impressed by the price tag  :P but yeah if its Class A, i will turn slightly towards Plinius too.  :-X
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Kakarotttan on April 06, 2010, 01:37
Oh no, do not get me wrong. i was just not so impressed by the price tag  :P but yeah if its Class A, i will turn slightly towards Plinius too.  :-X
I c~~ :)
hard to deny Simaudio has employed some good marketing techniques that allow them to raise the prices higher than they actually worth~~hehe~~
pairing Dynaudio speakers is one of the most efficient  :)
and 100% 1 year trade-in program is another got me hooked to their products at some level~~
Always heard good things about Plinius~~ need to do a little more research on it~~
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Kakarotttan on April 07, 2010, 13:11
hi everyone,
anybody familiar with Chord electronics/Dyaudio combo??
got an amazing deal on Chord pre/power amp for my C1... :)
Simaudio P7/W7 dropped to the second on the list...
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on April 07, 2010, 14:56
Chord Electronics with Dynaudio combo makes a very good combinations. I'm using them in our showroom.

Infact, all Dynaudio distributors in europe will be partnering them together.

Good transparency sound, got lots of swing to the music even at low volume. When you need the attack it can also provide. Only thing is....the price tag :'(
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Kakarotttan on April 07, 2010, 21:39
Chord Electronics with Dynaudio combo makes a very good combinations. I'm using them in our showroom.

Infact, all Dynaudio distributors in europe will be partnering them together.

Good transparency sound, got lots of swing to the music even at low volume. When you need the attack it can also provide. Only thing is....the price tag :'(

Thank you!
If you don't mind me asking, how does Simaudio P7/W7 hold up against Chord CPA3000/SPM1050?
I think price is not the precise evluation of the gears once it comes to this level.
Or are they quite different sounding?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on April 07, 2010, 23:03
Personally, I got used to the Chord characteristics more and like I've said on the previous pages, the Simaudio sound dry & less emotions :( other than that they are absolutely great amplifiers.

You should decide yourself coz you're the one using it everyday. We can only state our personnel point of view.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Quest on April 07, 2010, 23:13
Personally, I got used to the Chord characteristics more and like I've said on the previous pages, the Simaudio sound dry & less emotions :( other than that they are absolutely great amplifiers.

You should decide yourself coz you're the one using it everyday. We can only state our personnel point of view.
Not sure about the Chord, though I like their DAC, but agree about the Simaudio sound, hence my suggestion to pair with another cdp/dac to bring some life to it if u intend to go with this combination..

dynaudio's views are generally quite reliable too. :)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Kakarotttan on April 08, 2010, 01:12
Thank you both dynaudio and Quest.
no doubt dynaudio's opinion is very reliable, he must have listened to tons of combinations  :P
golden ears, hehe...
my current Simaudio i3.3 does appear to have such disadvantage driving Focus 140, even with my tube cd player...
Thus if the Chord CPA3000/SPM1050 costs exactly the same as Simaudio P7/W7, there should be no hesitation to pick the British?
at least that's how I felt.  :)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on April 08, 2010, 14:31
Hi

I have come across quite a few setup that Dynaudio speakers (C1 and C2) push with Chord and Simaudio amp. I have also notice quite many of the Dynaudio fans mainly in HK and Taiwan uses Jeff Rowland pre.amp, combination of the current model, the class D amp and previous model model 7, 8, 8Ti, 8TiHC, 9.

Just wonder is there any bro in this forum can share their view of Jeff Rowland system with Dynaudio speakers
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on April 08, 2010, 15:24
i had the impression that if they had Jeff Rowland amps in the 1st place. they wont be using Dynaudio speakers. its a different brand altogether but price tag also equally high like the Dynaudio. at least not locally in sg will be using this matchup. now waiting for someone to show me if one ever had this combi and like it.  :-X
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: joamonte on April 08, 2010, 17:40
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?id=759827295&aid=99571#!/photo.php?pid=2235559&id=759827295

must log in to face book to view.

This set of C2 in KL  is drive by ARC Ref 3 and Jeff Rowland 312 ( hide inside the rack)..The sound IMHO (its commenting the whole system not the power amp alone remember) is good for easy and relax listening , but not very suitable for Audio extremer who want pin point image , big sound stage , top notch resolution and extreme micro/macro dynamic....it could be the room, could be the speaker/seating placement, could be the voicing, we can't be sure.


Since mention about Jeff Rowland, for you guy info JR Ice-power series (201,501,312) is now consider as their "mid price" power amp, their new Class AB "high end" series is coming soon.

I have heard quite a few JR ice power amp including some in my own system, but I feel it overall has less character compare to their older Class AB amp, driving force is excellent, every piece of music you throw in is from good to very good~~~~but never really "great"... ::)

I only can say for driving force , the Ice power Jeff Rowland should not have any problem with any speaker, but if you expect it to be impressive, wait for their Class AB 925 or 625 , I think coherence audio allow home trial but their price are not that cheap,and I hear so they don't accept Check payment, only cash.... :-X ;D ;D

Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on April 08, 2010, 18:22
oh... so our KL bros then got this. JR has always been Great from start.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on April 08, 2010, 21:36
Yes, JF is one of my wish list. I am waiting for the 625 power amp and the new pre amp (not sure what is the model). However, need to work extra hard for it. To my understanding, it cost about 30K total for the new 625 ($18K) and the new pre amp ($12K).
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on April 09, 2010, 00:05
Following are some example of Chord and Jeff Rowland system connected to Dynaudio speakers

(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/clitang/C1-Jeff1.jpg)
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/clitang/C1-Jeff2.jpg)
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/clitang/C1-Jeff3.jpg)
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/clitang/C1-Jeff4.jpg)
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/clitang/C1-Jeff5.jpg)
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/clitang/C1-Jeff7.jpg)

Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on April 09, 2010, 00:08
nice bro. now those are definitely not local. are they?  :)

hey i saw a Stand4 that is silver polished shine with black polished base.  :o
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Kakarotttan on April 09, 2010, 06:24
hi bro clitang, nice pictures.
as far as I know, Chord belongs to the sweet, warm, extended on the top frequency, and fast and punchy low end type of sound,
while JR has even more concentration on the musicality, elegant and enchanting....should be excellent for listening to music...
however, some people criticizes that Chord and JR are overpriced in a sense that high efficiency gears shouldn't be expensive, cuz inefficiency is the principle in the hi-fi world, I partially agree because it's true that there is a large portion of money is spent on the outside for both brands...but I also do wanna hear such beautiful sound....
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on April 09, 2010, 06:26
nice bro. now those are definitely not local. are they?  :)

hey i saw a Stand4 that is silver polished shine with black polished base.  :o

Hi Bro,

Yes, they are from HK. C1 is very, very popular in HK. Not like in Singapore, as mentioned by Dynaudio Singapoire, there are only about 20 users.

As for the silver polished shine with black polished base stand, it is limited edition.....I like it very much also. Dynaudio not producting it anymore.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on April 09, 2010, 09:11
hi bro clitang, nice pictures.
as far as I know, Chord belongs to the sweet, warm, extended on the top frequency, and fast and punchy low end type of sound,
while JR has even more concentration on the musicality, elegant and enchanting....should be excellent for listening to music...
however, some people criticizes that Chord and JR are overpriced in a sense that high efficiency gears shouldn't be expensive, cuz inefficiency is the principle in the hi-fi world, I partially agree because it's true that there is a large portion of money is spent on the outside for both brands...but I also do wanna hear such beautiful sound....

Good discussion point here -> Hif equipment that is overprice. Should we start a topic to discuss which equipment is over price and which is not?

Chord and JR are overpriced, any others?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on April 09, 2010, 10:20
Hi Bro,

Yes, they are from HK. C1 is very, very popular in HK. Not like in Singapore, as mentioned by Dynaudio Singapoire, there are only about 20 users.

As for the silver polished shine with black polished base stand, it is limited edition.....I like it very much also. Dynaudio not producting it anymore.

ah ic. you fly there got poison bring it to SG. now spread to me. hahaha. ok ok i try spread to others here.

oh btw i am getting Densen B-200 and B-320 for my C1. overall i still prefer the tonality the Densen range gives to the C1. cant wait to get tears over the weekend  ;D :'( mixed emotions.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dXter on April 09, 2010, 10:42
ah ic. you fly there got poison bring it to SG. now spread to me. hahaha. ok ok i try spread to others here.

oh btw i am getting Densen B-200 and B-320 for my C1. overall i still prefer the tonality the Densen range gives to the C1. cant wait to get tears over the weekend  ;D :'( mixed emotions.

DJQ, how much would the densen combo cost? If you won't mind sharing
I was offered a B130 integrated for my limited budget but I like how the densen sounds with dyn too. haha

@ clitang, I think for HK due to their really small apartments, the C1 is very popular. I too see they mostly buy bookshelves speakers.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on April 09, 2010, 11:22
DJQ, how much would the densen combo cost? If you won't mind sharing
I was offered a B130 integrated for my limited budget but I like how the densen sounds with dyn too. haha

@ clitang, I think for HK due to their really small apartments, the C1 is very popular. I too see they mostly buy bookshelves speakers.

Yes, you are right to certain point, but....

You can see that Mclntosh is also very popular among the Dynaudio fans, In Singapore I guess the number is very minimal. Densen with Dynaudio is very rare in HK and Taiwan

(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/clitang/C1ver3.jpg)
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/clitang/C1ver6.jpg)
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/clitang/C1ver2.jpg)
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/clitang/C1ver4.jpg)
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Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on April 09, 2010, 11:35
Yes, you are right to certain point, but....

You can see that Mclntosh is also very popular among the Dynaudio fans, In Singapore I guess the number is very minimal. Densen with Dynaudio is very rare in HK and Taiwan

It's because we're poor man and they're rich to owned very highend equipments. We can only afford the poor man's equipments like Densen  :-[
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on April 09, 2010, 11:44
DJQ, how much would the densen combo cost? If you won't mind sharing
I was offered a B130 integrated for my limited budget but I like how the densen sounds with dyn too. haha

@ clitang, I think for HK due to their really small apartments, the C1 is very popular. I too see they mostly buy bookshelves speakers.

hi bro, i will pm you the figure. how much for the B130?

yeah i tought so too, HK mostly small apartments, even Grandcastle at sai yong choi street is like a small apartment selling audio items. unlike our Adelphi big mall.  :P
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on April 09, 2010, 11:49
Yes, you are right to certain point, but....

You can see that Mclntosh is also very popular among the Dynaudio fans, In Singapore I guess the number is very minimal. Densen with Dynaudio is very rare in HK and Taiwan

It's because we're poor man and they're rich to owned very highend equipments. We can only afford the poor man's equipments like Densen  :-[

yeah i concur. those are out of my range. no wonder bro clitang buy Sapphire! coz of all those pictures. hahaha
now must go JR/McIntosh/Simaudio/Chord there is no way out liao.  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on April 09, 2010, 12:10
More

(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/clitang/C1-Mch3.jpg)
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/clitang/C1-Mch1.jpg)
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/clitang/C1-Mch2.jpg)
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/clitang/C1-Mch4.jpg)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on April 09, 2010, 12:13
yeah i concur. those are out of my range. no wonder bro clitang buy Sapphire! coz of all those pictures. hahaha
now must go JR/McIntosh/Simaudio/Chord there is no way out liao.  ;D

Hi DJQ

This is for you bro, I still think the black C1 is very, very beautiful.

(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/clitang/C1stand4.jpg)
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/clitang/C1stand3.jpg)
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/clitang/C1stand.jpg)
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/clitang/C1stand2.jpg)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: landis on April 09, 2010, 12:15
notice all the superlative systems and not a single treatment to the room ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on April 09, 2010, 12:27
Just wonder is there any BLUE Sapphire in Singapore

(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/clitang/SapphireBlue-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on April 09, 2010, 12:39
Heng ah...nva order Blue Sapphire :P not nice and abit or-biang!  ;D

Saw from the high-res pic they send me looks damm chio but now see the Clitang's post pic not so nice liao.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on April 09, 2010, 13:02
notice all the superlative systems and not a single treatment to the room ;D


that's thanks to Dynaudio's DDC system. Read about it a few pages back.
 http://www.dynaudio.com/eng/tech/ddc.htm
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on April 09, 2010, 13:05
that's thanks to Dynaudio's DRC system. Read about it a few pages back.

It's DDC technology ;D not DRC (dynamic range compression)  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Kakarotttan on April 10, 2010, 02:01
gosh....can't hold on to myself anymore seeing these pictures....
shinny black C1, can directly see the Burmester 061 from reflection ;D
I thought Densen and Simaudio are on par price wise?
Doesn't McIntosh compromise some of Dynaudio's strengths?
anyway...all sweet stuff...I will be satisfied owning one set of gears...
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Kakarotttan on April 11, 2010, 01:33
hello dynaudio~~
may I ask if you personally find any real improvement on Chord CPA3000/SPM1050 over the integrated CPM3350?
(specifically used for C1 if you had the chance), I'm not certain SPM1050 or CPM3350 can dig up C1's potential since Chord's technology is fairly different and can hardly interpret in a regular way...
thanks~  :)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on April 11, 2010, 02:57
Finally connected my B-320 to the C1, the overwhelming bass is gone... tears drop... no not yet... somethings still missing. will find some time to write a proper review. now to go sleep and dream.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Kakarotttan on April 11, 2010, 04:41
Finally connected my B-320 to the C1, the overwhelming bass is gone... tears drop... no not yet... somethings still missing. will find some time to write a proper review. now to go sleep and dream.
wow~~this late...must give some support~~
hope you figure out what's missing in your dream  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on April 11, 2010, 08:33
hello dynaudio~~
may I ask if you personally find any real improvement on Chord CPA3000/SPM1050 over the integrated CPM3350?
(specifically used for C1 if you had the chance), I'm not certain SPM1050 or CPM3350 can dig up C1's potential since Chord's technology is fairly different and can hardly interpret in a regular way...
thanks~  :)

I would say "YES" in all aspect. The Chord pre/pwr combo do make a signicficant in sound compare to their 3350. Much better in the drive sections, seperations is better with wider spread of soundstage etc..I would fully recommend the pre/pwr combo @$23.4k ;) Many times I've demo this combo with the C1, the C1 doesn't sound like a bookshelf anymore, the full potential of the speaker has been expanded :o
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Kakarotttan on April 11, 2010, 08:51
I would say "YES" in all aspect. The Chord pre/pwr combo do make a signicficant in sound compare to their 3350. Much better in the drive sections, seperations is better with wider spread of soundstage etc..I would fully recommend the pre/pwr combo @$23.4k ;) Many times I've demo this combo with the C1, the C1 doesn't sound like a bookshelf anymore, the full potential of the speaker has been expanded :o

thanks a lot! seems like this is my final choice then, no more Simaudio  ;D
actually it takes some struggle to make this decision since I'm more a "material" guy, while the Chord doesn't weight much~hehe
but dynaudio is the boss...trust all on you~ :)
at one point I was considering MBL, and then realized how expensive Simaudio actually is...
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on April 11, 2010, 23:20
after tonight, i sensed the C1 is steadily showing better dynamics. the initial boom is gone.
Densens' character was very strong and gave the overall tonality and dynamics to the C1. and yes tears did flow, watching BD chris botti and david foster again makes all emotions grow. ever wondered why musicians plays with a very hard facial expression. heart and soul is directed as they played the intruments. you can feel it as the musicality involves you there n then. i would not know what in my setup chain actually made that bigger difference, but pretty sure the Denon link 4th clock control did made it more precise while on music BR.

i think i am spending too much time to bring it to sound like what i heard at Stealth's place, given that my room is slightly bigger, i would think with some room treatment i can easliy bring forth liveliness to the setup. the Densen pre was very very precise, i hooked up the 4010 analog L/R output to it, good lord, makes the AVR as a pre for CD playback sound medicore. Price factored in who is certained to say it doesn't. i got not enough silver interconnects, so going to spend some time diy 1 or 2 more pairs also i can run another connection for my PC to avr to pre-power setup. since nobody wants the 3910, i am going to run it delicately for CD/SACD playback. no sense waste it as it loads faster than the 4010. maybe open it up for modds n tweaks to make it better.    
the fact i am still using the IeGO pum silver wire i diy solder to viablue gold banana jacks for the C1s. i remember i still had my Belden studio 814 somewhere, so will try it see how it sounds. i guess have to do A&B compare again to grasp the differences

in the next few nights going to watch all my BR movies again. now really full Dynaudio experience, pictures later as my digital cam died, iPhone not really good.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Wymun on April 12, 2010, 00:21
Looks like no regrets...??  ;)

The Densen B200 is a great pre-amp - even after a few years, still going strong... :D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on April 12, 2010, 13:32
yeah... Densen products are lifetime warranty. i only know Kingston valueram is lifetime warranty. they really deliver what is promised. every night smooth music... :) cant wait to go home.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on April 12, 2010, 14:26
yeah... Densen products are lifetime warranty. i only know Kingston valueram is lifetime warranty. they really deliver what is promised. every night smooth music... :) cant wait to go home.

If wired with Nordost cables even smoother  :P
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: RonaldSK on April 12, 2010, 15:54
Hello guys !

This weekend , we made a Dynaudio A42 and A52 upgrades , and some tests also.The setup for both speakers are NAD C542 , and C352 and XLO wiring. The first thing we made , was changing the AMP. We prepare all we need for set up a car amplifier which was Genesis Dula mono Extreme with 2x350W by 12V. The mids and the ,,room-space,, was absolutely fantastic , mid-bass was very good also.Hard , precise , fully controled mid bass.But...The highs was very hard , and Genesis doenst ,,pullss,, a depp bass.We need to connect a Velodyne sub and then was the sound succesfull. That was just a test...

and now to job... /i send fotos later also/... I dismantle the Audience 42s completely , driver , bass-reflex , terminal. I used Dynamat extreme for noise damping , and changed the cables on crossover to XLO cables. I put here some photos later. The result was a fantastic space and bass.Now the 42s plays deep bass also , and the mid bass is now ultra kicky , controlled.For my glad plays the 42s closed much better like before!The bass is still kicky and hard and enough for me! For deep bass i use the Velodyne sub , also closed now. Today i need to setup the new upgraded configuration.

Sorry for my English

Ronald

Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: RonaldSK on April 12, 2010, 19:46
just another detail..Used Cardas solder..Thank you stealth for tip.

The Photos:

(http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/8296/81292168.th.jpg) (http://img177.imageshack.us/i/81292168.jpg/)

(http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/2530/19899227.th.jpg) (http://img17.imageshack.us/i/19899227.jpg/)

(http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/8974/87435325.th.jpg) (http://img255.imageshack.us/i/87435325.jpg/)

(http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/4746/43998404.th.jpg) (http://img39.imageshack.us/i/43998404.jpg/)

(http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/3876/20722973.th.jpg) (http://img9.imageshack.us/i/20722973.jpg/)

(http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/8279/70476989.th.jpg) (http://img245.imageshack.us/i/70476989.jpg/)

(http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/9962/73452085.th.jpg) (http://img177.imageshack.us/i/73452085.jpg/)

(http://img532.imageshack.us/img532/54/42053331.th.jpg) (http://img532.imageshack.us/i/42053331.jpg/)

(http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/3079/34951114.th.jpg) (http://img62.imageshack.us/i/34951114.jpg/)

(http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/272/010ea.th.jpg) (http://img690.imageshack.us/i/010ea.jpg/)

(http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/4454/011on.th.jpg) (http://img338.imageshack.us/i/011on.jpg/)

(http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/7158/012gf.th.jpg) (http://img228.imageshack.us/i/012gf.jpg/)


Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on April 12, 2010, 20:38
wah. i might open up my A42 someday like Ronald.  :o
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on April 12, 2010, 20:40
Ho Ronald,

Nice skillful job you've done..
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: RonaldSK on April 12, 2010, 20:53
wah. i might open up my A42 someday like Ronald.  :o

Hi DJQ. If you plan to do some upgrades on your 42s or 52s , feel free to ask everything.Maybe i can help you and you can do this job without ,,negative suprises,,

Stealth - Thank you very much!
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on April 17, 2010, 01:28
Thanks Nick.

The amount of tweaks you did really made me think I shd be experimenting with more tweaks. And thanks for the advice. Just swapped one item and some of that boominess is gone. Looks like Nordost is calling hehe.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on April 17, 2010, 08:04
Bro DH,

Hope you enjoy the music last nite and thanks for the after session kopi :D

Well, maybe next time we can have another round of Bak Kut Teh again with some of our kakis.. ;)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on April 26, 2010, 10:49
Just to revive the thread again, sharing one of our customer's setup. Just upgraded his contour 3.3 to a Confidence C4. He's a long time dynaudio lover with fully 5.2 setup with ultimate hiend equipments. The cables behind is already a killer :o

(http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/927/dsc6271v.jpg)

(http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/1858/dsc6269.jpg)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on April 26, 2010, 11:01
Just to revive the thread again, sharing one of our customer's setup. Just upgraded his contour 3.3 to a Confidence C4. He's a long time dynaudio lover with fully 5.2 setup with ultimate hiend equipments. The cables behind is already a killer :o

(http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/927/dsc6271v.jpg)

(http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/1858/dsc6269.jpg)

Thank you to kep the thread alive.

So can you share what cable is used here and what is the source and the pre/power amp use to push the C4 and the sub?

The C4 already able to produce very good bass, but your customer still add 2 big sub. Power!!! Just wonder is it necessary?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on April 26, 2010, 11:12
Holy crap!! That is one sweet setup
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on April 26, 2010, 11:24
Thank you to kep the thread alive.

So can you share what cable is used here and what is the source and the pre/power amp use to push the C4 and the sub?

The C4 already able to produce very good bass, but your customer still add 2 big sub. Power!!! Just wonder is it necessary?

Sorry I didn't take note of the brand of the cables, it just like pythons :P Pre is a Ayre K-1X and Bryston poweramps

The 2 dyns sub is for HT purpose. Hmmm...power house! 8)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: landis on April 26, 2010, 13:01
Just to revive the thread again, sharing one of our customer's setup. Just upgraded his contour 3.3 to a Confidence C4. He's a long time dynaudio lover with fully 5.2 setup with ultimate hiend equipments. The cables behind is already a killer :o

beautiful setup. if there is anything to nitpick with, it would be the disproportionately small centre speaker for home theatre
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on April 26, 2010, 15:36
I would also like to share one of the setup that I have come across on the web. Just wonder how many proud owner are there in Singapore with Consequence Ultimate Edition. The best part is that the owner add a "Super tweeter" to the speaker.

(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/clitang/Consqeuence.jpg)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Audio on April 26, 2010, 15:40
This one I like and totally respect.   :)

(Audio)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on April 26, 2010, 15:44
JR!!!  :o Respect!!!
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on April 26, 2010, 15:48
This one I like and totally respect.   :)

(Audio)

Just cos it looks as cluttered as yr place? ;)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on April 26, 2010, 16:45
I would also like to share one of the setup that I have come across on the web. Just wonder how many proud owner are there in Singapore with Consequence Ultimate Edition. The best part is that the owner add a "Super tweeter" to the speaker.


It's because his sitting distance is too close. Can't achieve the tweeters & woofer dispersions. :(
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: LFOJunkie on April 26, 2010, 17:42
Thank you to kep the thread alive.

So can you share what cable is used here and what is the source and the pre/power amp use to push the C4 and the sub?

The C4 already able to produce very good bass, but your customer still add 2 big sub. Power!!! Just wonder is it necessary?

[I'm using Hisago's 4 core Power Kings for the amps and 2 core for everything else as far as power cables go. The interconnects are Hisago silver platted copper with Furutech connectors.
The two subs are only for movies and were needed with the 3.3 Contours. I haven't had the C4's long enough to play around without using the subs for movies.

The Sub's are self powered and the C4's are powered by Byston SST 28B's. My preamp is the Ayre K1xe.
  /quote]
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: LFOJunkie on April 26, 2010, 17:49
beautiful setup. if there is anything to nitpick with, it would be the disproportionately small centre speaker for home theatre

The center speaker is something to look into but might not be needed at all now I will play around for awhile and see if it would be the next upgrade.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: jimi on April 26, 2010, 18:01
Also might want to add the wide speakers too. Of course they would have to be the same as the front L/R for smooth pans LOL! :P

Beautiful setup and nice size room BTW.

I guess you have to remove the room treatment in front of the screen everytime you watch a movie which is a bit inconvenient.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on April 26, 2010, 22:23
nice C4 setup.....  :)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: LFOJunkie on April 26, 2010, 23:21
Also might want to add the wide speakers too. Of course they would have to be the same as the front L/R for smooth pans LOL! :P

Beautiful setup and nice size room BTW.

I guess you have to remove the room treatment in front of the screen everytime you watch a movie which is a bit inconvenient.

I will likely keep the 3.3's as the surrounds and maybe hold on to the 1.3's I had as surrounds. My room isn't big enough for C4's all around but that would be nice. I'll guess have to wait until that TOTO number comes in.

The room treatments are very light and easy to move out of the way for the projector. I can't afford new Blu-rays anyway after the C4 purchase so mostly music for now.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: jimi on April 27, 2010, 03:11
Ha ha! Just breaking ur balls.  The C4s's look real sweet can't even begin to imagine what ur system sounds like! 8)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on May 03, 2010, 00:30
Dynaudio has sold all the Sapphires loudspeaker!

http://www.stereophile.com/news/dynaudio_to_auction_last_pair_of_sapphires/
 (http://www.stereophile.com/news/dynaudio_to_auction_last_pair_of_sapphires/)

I guess Dynaudio Singapore might have some remaining stocks. Interested bro here have to be quick!

Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on May 03, 2010, 08:19
Dynaudio has sold all the Sapphires loudspeaker!

http://www.stereophile.com/news/dynaudio_to_auction_last_pair_of_sapphires/
 (http://www.stereophile.com/news/dynaudio_to_auction_last_pair_of_sapphires/)

I guess Dynaudio Singapore might have some remaining stocks. Interested bro here have to be quick!



Sorry the remaining pairs were sold recently only left our demo which more or less going to be reserve soon :P
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on May 03, 2010, 11:20
Sorry the remaining pairs were sold recently only left our demo which more or less going to be reserve soon :P

Good to hear that. Then my pair of Sappaire will become a real "limited edtion". Haha
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: venturer on May 03, 2010, 16:01
is this for real? sneak preview of the soon to be re-released Special 25 (special edition)

(http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o46/rob80b/odds%20and%20ends/IMG_1862.jpg)
(http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o46/rob80b/odds%20and%20ends/Grasshopper2.jpg)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on May 03, 2010, 19:30
Wah. Can't even see the outlines. Colors so striking!!!
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: francis woo on May 03, 2010, 19:49
There is nothing Photoshop cannot do with a picture.... ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: HoSaybo on May 03, 2010, 19:51
yeah...quite unpro in fact.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on May 03, 2010, 20:06
Yeah Photoshop edited. Both picture share the same exact position.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: CASH on May 03, 2010, 22:16
maple leaf and birds eye! cool!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on May 03, 2010, 23:21
is this for real? sneak preview of the soon to be re-released Special 25 (special edition)


If this the real re-launch special 25 design, I think when Dynaudio CEO see it, he will faint and maybe had a heart attack :P
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on May 03, 2010, 23:36
Hi

Yes, there are news that Dynaudio will relaunch the 25th Anniversary model.

http://www.stereophile.com/news/dynaudio_to_auction_last_pair_of_sapphires/ (http://www.stereophile.com/news/dynaudio_to_auction_last_pair_of_sapphires/)

Anniversaries Past and Future

That was not the case with Dynaudio's coveted Special Twenty-Five (25th anniversary) bookshelf speaker, whose first production run was 2500 pairs in a finish of burled birch. After those had sold out, the next run was available in all of Dynaudio's standard finishes. In the two or so years the Special Twenty-Five was available, approximately 4000 pairs were sold.

Rather than contemplate releasing a 40th-anniversary model in 2012, Dynaudio will bring back the Special Twenty-Five later this year for a final production run {of how many pairs?}. Priced at $5800/pair, and tentatively slated for October relaunch in limited markets, the two-way bookshelf uses the same 8" plastic-cone woofer as Dynaudio's top speaker model, the Evidence Master, and the same 1.1" Esotar2 fabric-dome tweeter as the Sapphire. Stereophile's John Marks called the Special Twenty-Five "fabulous." And while John Atkinson, in his June 2005 Follow-Up, noted that the speaker's treble balance was on the forward side, he nevertheless called it "a superb loudspeaker, with a smooth, grain-free treble, a natural-sounding midrange, excellent soundstaging, and extended low frequencies when given a little bit of boundary reinforcement.'

Michael Manousselis, director of Dynaudio's sales and marketing in the US, confesses that the Special Twenty-Five sold so fast that at times he felt like a data-entry clerk, spending day after day entering sales figures in columns.

Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: big bad wolf on May 05, 2010, 14:45
maple leaf and birds eye! cool!!!  ;D

yeah , have to agree with you. very nice bouncing ones !
can't take my eyes off them.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on May 18, 2010, 11:27
Just to revive this thread again....

There's a good pair of  Contour 3.4 on sale, anyone who is interested in getting a good floorstander can check it out.

Don't miss your chance. :D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: petetherock on May 19, 2010, 08:50
Bro,this thread is highly popular already (top ten) and you have been very informative, but it is hardly becoming of you if you turn this into a promotion for your company thread or a sales thread?

Other local sellers might do that, but you don't need to do so, so may I suggest that you leave it to the hobbyists and keep helping us with replies to questions and keep up the good work on that front, but if you wish to post sales items, you also have a sales thread that you have used before in the audio sales section.... just my 2c worth, cheers.

Just to revive this thread again....

There's a good pair of  xxxx check it out.


Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on May 19, 2010, 09:23
I think he mearly pointed a direction to a pre-own set available at the sales thread. He hardly needs to do any promotion. (I do not remember they EVER got any super discounts on their product chain) Dynaudio sells on it own, and prices are steadily going up with raw materials & Euros strengthening. We all know Dynaudio is not allowed to sell pre-own sets. It's a fine line if you ask me. 
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: CASH on May 19, 2010, 09:56
here we go again!
the so called petetherock= "MODERATER" strikes again!
Jeez!!!!
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: petetherock on May 19, 2010, 09:59
So you Encourage sales posts here???

See what others have posted before on coverting an audio thread into a sales thread.

Don't spend your mornings getting up to criticise others for offering their comments if you do the same and I would not use His name in vain if you are a man of God.
here we go again!
the so called petetherock= "MODERATER" strikes again!
Jeez!!!!
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Fanzhen on May 19, 2010, 10:06
Just to revive this thread again....

There's a good pair of  Contour 3.4 on sale, anyone who is interested in getting a good floorstander can check it out.

Don't miss your chance. :D

Hi bro,

You don't have to follow his advice/suggestion and you don't need to read it either!
(extracted from here : http://www.xtremeplace.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=76472.msg561237;topicseen#new)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: CASH on May 19, 2010, 10:15
i am not a believer in god.
i believe in humans interacting with each other to get help from each other.
i recall something in my early years, "god will help those who help themselves"
try telling that to people who have passed on by suicide. did god even intervene, to help them at the lowest possible time???
NO!
so i believe humans will help each other, and not god!
sorry to fellow members here on me going out of thread.
just felt the need to reply back to petetherock, to get things in perspective.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: seanyzf on May 19, 2010, 10:19
Dynaudio sells on it own, and prices are steadily going up with raw materials & Euros strengthening.

Well at least this time rd the euro is dropping like mad.  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: petetherock on May 19, 2010, 10:21
Bro Cash
Despite the means in which I sometimes answer, which can be dour I will be the first to admit, the post I make are not to make fun of others, and are to post info.
Think about that, and see if I post insults or info.
You once offered to have coffee and talk about it, and I also said, why not? Better to make friends than enemies, if you don't wish to make enemies, then make friends instead.

My offer of coffee still stands, but I respect everyone has a different approach and opinion.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on May 19, 2010, 10:22
Bro,this thread is highly popular already (top ten) and you have been very informative, but it is hardly becoming of you if you turn this into a promotion for your company thread or a sales thread?

Other local sellers might do that, but you don't need to do so, so may I suggest that you leave it to the hobbyists and keep helping us with replies to questions and keep up the good work on that front, but if you wish to post sales items, you also have a sales thread that you have used before in the audio sales section.... just my 2c worth, cheers.


Hi Bro Pete,
Thanks for the points.
Just to clarify clearly that there's no intentions to do any promotions of the product or the company. By this time everyones know where we are.
Regards to the above post, I merely out of good will let our bros here know there's a good deal on a pre-owned speaker. So hope this clear the air. ;)

Cheers!

Dynaudio
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: CASH on May 19, 2010, 10:26
its true about everyone having their own opinions, that i will agree wholeheartedly.
and yes, its always good to make friends than enemies.
i will meet up with you someday to have coffee.
maybe at someones place during the numerous shootouts that xtremeplace always has...
till then,
Cheer's!
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: petetherock on May 19, 2010, 10:31
Last OT...

Sure bro, I don't post in XP to trade insults, I post my opinion, and I acknowledge there are differences.
I see you as a mature member, your bouncing boobs not withstanding, and not in the same genre as hotbird.

If you are sincere about coffee, I would open my home to you too. Anytime we both are free, and you can critic any of my equipment, because thats your honest opinion. That to be works better than trading insults bright and earlier.

My offer also extends to bro fanzhen. As many who have popped by my home, I prefer to make friends than enemies.

I started this Dynaudio thread simply because I believe in their prodcuts and I feel there are like-minded people in our forum.But I feel we should leave the sales promotion to another planet.

I shoot straight, no mincing of words, that won't work for everyone, but I don't make personal insults unless someone does it first.

Cheers.

its true about everyone having their own opinions, that i will agree wholeheartedly.
and yes, its always good to make friends than enemies.
i will meet up with you someday to have coffee.
maybe at someones place during the numerous shootouts that xtremeplace always has...
till then,
Cheer's!
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on May 19, 2010, 10:39
Yo Dynaudio users. Just wanna do a check, how you cure the boominess on your floorstanders? I understand one of our bro Fengshenwee is having this problem with his S3.4 so I tought I pop the question.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on May 19, 2010, 10:46
Well at least this time rd the euro is dropping like mad.  ;D

yeah but we in Asia is not feeling the drop. Pricing on products isn't instant. Same like crude oil. Just 17may we got 4cts less on petrol.  :P
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on May 19, 2010, 10:58
Personally, I find dyn's post informative w/o being a purely pushy sales pitch. Found out quite a lot abt Dyn's approach to speaker design to minimize, say need for acoustic treatment.

Loads of people visit this thread are interested in Dyns and there are deals they might have missed. I've picked up a few bargains from dyn's hints before. I know he doesn't make money off second hand gear so it's more like a heads up to those looking for a bargain.. which I think ALL of us are interested in, no need to point fingers.

Euros may be down but there's more to cost than just currency fluctuations. I know that when the US$ went down, some of my products ended up more expensive because the raw materials were just more costly to buy because of the weaker dollar.

Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: hotbird on May 19, 2010, 11:06
Sure bro, I don't post in XP to trade insults, I post my opinion, and I acknowledge there are differences.
I see you as a mature member, your bouncing boobs not withstanding, and not in the same genre as hotbird.

Since you are trying to again cast me as a public enemy no 1 again, here's some general thoughts about you. The worst thing about you is that you think you are so self-righteous, and that you are doing  everybody a great favor by policing everything that does not conforms to your totalitarian idea of forum membership, I am glad you were never got to be a moderator here, everything would be so sanitised and boring if you were one.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: petetherock on May 19, 2010, 11:08
zzzz I rest my case.
Catch up with you bro Cash later.

Since you are trying to again cast me as a public enemy no 1 again, here's some general thoughts about you. The worst thing about you is that you think you are so self-righteous, and that you are doing  everybody a great favor by policing everything that does not conforms to your totalitarian idea of forum membership, I am glad you were never got to be a moderator here, everything would be so sanitised and boring if you were one.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on May 19, 2010, 11:09
Yo Dynaudio users. Just wanna do a check, how you cure the boominess on your floorstanders? I understand one of our bro Fengshenwee is having this problem with his S3.4 so I tought I pop the question.

How is he placing them? I think all the new Dyns are rear ported right?

At least the Dyns can work in near field, so maybe that's worth a shot?

Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: fx on May 19, 2010, 11:17
Yo Dynaudio users. Just wanna do a check, how you cure the boominess on your floorstanders? I understand one of our bro Fengshenwee is having this problem with his S3.4 so I tought I pop the question.

bro DJQ,

for my case, placing a pair of  bassbaster behind speaker and transferred cd player from Guizu to Solidsteel rack. Boom almost gone!
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: hotbird on May 19, 2010, 11:20
Euros may be down but there's more to cost than just currency fluctuations. I know that when the US$ went down, some of my products ended up more expensive because the raw materials were just more costly to buy because of the weaker dollar.

Another thing to note is that most distributors do keep an amount of inventory which are purchased when the Euro was high. It's no fault of theirs if they keep the price at that level, coz that's they purchased at a high price. Some may be willing to take a loss and order more inventory at new price to break even the costs but speakers are big items and not mass market commodities  ;)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: nbs on May 19, 2010, 11:36
Since you are trying to again cast me as a public enemy no 1 again, here's some general thoughts about you. The worst thing about you is that you think you are so self-righteous, and that you are doing  everybody a great favor by policing everything that does not conforms to your totalitarian idea of forum membership, I am glad you were never got to be a moderator here, everything would be so sanitised and boring if you were one.

+1.
Pete simply removed one of mine and his posts in hwz when I corrected him that he was wrong as he is the moderator there.  ???
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: hotbird on May 19, 2010, 11:42
+1.
Pete simply removed one of mine and his posts in hwz when I corrected him that he was wrong as he is the moderator there.  ???

Thanks I rest my case too  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: petetherock on May 19, 2010, 11:47
Before you mould into another hotbird, and make wrongful accusations, know that there are than 2 mods and I did not remove your posts esp those which may criticise my posts or those of anyone who does not share my opinion.
No one knows everything, and it is good to share info.

Think carefully before you start down the smear campign and make a fool of yourself.

When you stick to sharing info, and share your opinion, whether you agree or not, thats fair. If you make stupid accusations, you make yourself look silly and birds of a feather flock together.

As I said, unless you insult me, I rather make friends than enemies.

+1.
Pete simply removed one of mine and his posts in hwz when I corrected him that he was wrong as he is the moderator there.  ???
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: nbs on May 19, 2010, 11:59
Before you mould into another hotbird, and make wrongful accusations, know that there are than 2 mods and I did not remove your posts esp those which may criticise my posts or those of anyone who does not share my opinion.
No one knows everything, and it is good to share info.

Think carefully before you start down the smear campign and make a fool of yourself.

When you stick to sharing info, and share your opinion, whether you agree or not, thats fair. If you make stupid accusations, you make yourself look silly and birds of a feather flock together.

As I said, unless you insult me, I rather make friends than enemies.


Simply pointed to right direction as you always tell people to use SEARCH button instead of asking and I never criticised. I clearly remember you were online when I posted it, next morning my post including yours were nowhere to be found :o It was a mystery ??? I was not drunk on that night for sure!
Did you ever ask another moderator why your post was removed too?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on May 19, 2010, 12:02
bro DJQ,

for my case, placing a pair of  bassbaster behind speaker and transferred cd player from Guizu to Solidsteel rack. Boom almost gone!

ah ha so it's rack again.
Erm simi si bassbaster? ???
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on May 19, 2010, 12:15
ah ha so it's rack again.
Erm simi si bassbaster? ???

It's a echobuster basstrap. Too bad they no longer exist  :(
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: vp171s on May 19, 2010, 12:43
Before you mould into another hotbird, and make wrongful accusations, know that there are than 2 mods and I did not remove your posts esp those which may criticise my posts or those of anyone who does not share my opinion.
No one knows everything, and it is good to share info.

Think carefully before you start down the smear campign and make a fool of yourself.

When you stick to sharing info, and share your opinion, whether you agree or not, thats fair. If you make stupid accusations, you make yourself look silly and birds of a feather flock together.

As I said, unless you insult me, I rather make friends than enemies.


Dear The Rock (referring of course to the character from WWE/WWF & not from any other epic),

in your eagerness to lay the Smack Down on dynaudio's candy ass on what you perceived to be an undesirable posting  ;D, you have inadvertently created more OT postings in this discussion thread.

I hope the Mod can remove some of the above postings (& mine as well of course  ;D) - maybe create one in the General Forum so that the parties involved can Royal Rumble at leisure  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on May 19, 2010, 13:14
It's a echobuster basstrap. Too bad they no longer exist  :(

To improve the situtation, how about ASC bass trap, diffuser and Solidsteel rack. At least for me it is better now.

Without diffuser. Move the equipment to Solidsteel rack and 2 16" ASC bass trap at the corner.
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/clitang/DSCF0104.jpg)

With diffuser place behind the speaker and behind the listener seat)- result is better
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/clitang/DSCF0137.jpg)

Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on May 19, 2010, 13:25
wah bro clitang, long time no see... change so much ah. wow sweet. I believe improved by a big mark!
You snap up Joamonte's sound diffusers huh. nice!
i note your are placing your center spk flat. pls do get something to support it, you should now either ceraball,taoc or the dyn center base is equally good.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on May 19, 2010, 14:09
It's a echobuster basstrap. Too bad they no longer exist  :(

I heard may have 1 left.. reminds me I better go get it to match my room when I finally get to move my furniture around ;)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Austrich on May 19, 2010, 14:13

I hope the Mod can remove some of the above postings (& mine as well of course  ;D) - maybe create one in the General Forum so that the parties involved can Royal Rumble at leisure....

Unbelievable ....kids playing on the Rock, ended up fighting each other .....now must involve moderator, multi-tasker, remove this and remove that....this is scary, like living in cold war, PAP or KGB everywhere.....can we just enjoy the music ?  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: venturer on May 19, 2010, 15:26
Many years ago, selling price of Dyn in Sg was the cheapest in the world by a shop known as KLAS. But attitude of the infamous boss was very bad (depends on his mood).

Still remembered in 2004, US retail price of C1 was MSRP US$6000, Klas offered C1 at SGD$6k, (I was choosing between C1 & S25 at that time). Anyway local price of Dyn was always roughly 1:1 US retail price then.

Now 2010, US retail for C1 is US$7000, local price of C1 ~SGD$9K (correct me if I'm wrong).

Although Dyn is no longer cheapest here but has to say it is also not more expensive than the rest of the world. Furthermore Nick is very helpful & friendly & Dyn owner are having very good support now.

…but I still miss the old pricing…

Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on May 19, 2010, 18:54
Many years ago, selling price of Dyn in Sg was the cheapest in the world by a shop known as KLAS. But attitude of the infamous boss was very bad (depends on his mood).

Still remembered in 2004, US retail price of C1 was MSRP US$6000, Klas offered C1 at SGD$6k, (I was choosing between C1 & S25 at that time). Anyway local price of Dyn was always roughly 1:1 US retail price then.

Now 2010, US retail for C1 is US$7000, local price of C1 ~SGD$9K (correct me if I'm wrong).

Although Dyn is no longer cheapest here but has to say it is also not more expensive than the rest of the world. Furthermore Nick is very helpful & friendly & Dyn owner are having very good support now.

…but I still miss the old pricing…



If I am riight. I guess S$9K for C1 is without stand and this is old price. Now the price has increased.

However, this is Singapore.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: seanyzf on May 19, 2010, 19:10
Price tag sticking on C1 which I saw a couple of mths back was ard 10k, with or w/o stands i not too sure.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: jimi on May 19, 2010, 22:30


With diffuser place behind the speaker and behind the listener seat)- result is better
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/clitang/DSCF0137.jpg)



Very impressive. The place looks great now. And can see that you have moved to a PJ set up  8)

It probably helps that Dynaudio bases their designs to work inspite of room issues.

Your room width is quite narrow, like mine, I get too much bass reinforcement due to the proximity to the side wall despite having 4" of rockwool at the first reflection point.

I found that if I move my listening position further away from the wall and into the room a bit more, it improves the bass by alot- not sure if you have the room depth to do that.


Also, I found that I prefer absorption rather than diffusion behind the listening seat. Though I read that a mixture may be even better for the rear- ie making up the rear panel to consist of a diffusor in the middle with absorbers to the left and right of it adjacently.

What happened to the C1's? are they doing rear speaker duty- I might have missed when you actually sold them ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: marduk on May 19, 2010, 23:50

With diffuser place behind the speaker and behind the listener seat)- result is better
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/clitang/DSCF0137.jpg)


Nice setup you have there and thanks for sharing the photos of your new speakers. It will looks even impressive if you could take a picture of your Sapphire with the grills off... :o
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on May 20, 2010, 23:05
Very impressive. The place looks great now. And can see that you have moved to a PJ set up  8)

It probably helps that Dynaudio bases their designs to work inspite of room issues.

Your room width is quite narrow, like mine, I get too much bass reinforcement due to the proximity to the side wall despite having 4" of rockwool at the first reflection point.

I found that if I move my listening position further away from the wall and into the room a bit more, it improves the bass by alot- not sure if you have the room depth to do that.


Also, I found that I prefer absorption rather than diffusion behind the listening seat. Though I read that a mixture may be even better for the rear- ie making up the rear panel to consist of a diffusor in the middle with absorbers to the left and right of it adjacently.

What happened to the C1's? are they doing rear speaker duty- I might have missed when you actually sold them ;D

Updated picture, minor ajustment. Hope that something will be different when I post the picture again. Hope to change to FE racks and change the pre/power amp.

I have tried both diffusion and adsorption behind the listending seat. I personally perfer diffusion. The sound stage is wider.

The listening postion is about 1 ft away from the back wall. That's the max I can go. Room size is 9.5ft x 12ft. It is very difficult to get rid or cure the low freq. bass. Need careful and good room treatment to fix it.

As for the PJ setup. My PJ setup is very simple and entry level. It is about 2 years old. Do not have much time to watch moive nows days

(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/clitang/DSCF0521.jpg)
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/clitang/DSCF0552.jpg)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on May 20, 2010, 23:11
bro Ciltang, your screen is what size? 80"?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on May 20, 2010, 23:54
bro Ciltang, your screen is what size? 80"?

It is a Kikuchi AM - Gray Matte Advance 80" screen.

www.kikuchi-screen.co.jp
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on May 22, 2010, 01:04
Tears... emotions... soul.... 
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: RonaldSK on May 28, 2010, 17:32
Hello guys ,

just a question. Have somebody experience with AUDIENCE 82 and AUDIENCE 122. Or can somebody compare them? I have now bigger room and i will change in future my 42s...

Thank you very much !

Ronald - Slovakia

btw - clitang wonderfull speakers , wonderfull listening room !!!
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on June 01, 2010, 15:49
any new Dyn users? its been so long since we got new owners  :)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: rahul on June 01, 2010, 16:12
Not new user...but old one trying something new.

I have been using an Audiolab 8000P amp with my Focus 200 MKII for a month now. Quite good with enough power for my small room. A decent stopgap measure till I can fund an upgrade.

I am not using any preamp. PC > Lavry DAC > Audiolab.
Didnt have any issues, though the gain is a bit too high.

Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dXter on June 01, 2010, 17:19
Ordered my setup a few weeks ago but critical components not here yet. Newbie setup, so kinda mixed and matched newbie friendly stuff to not burst budget too much. Moreover, dunno how the overall sound will be in the end.

Oppo 83SE -> Kimber Kable Hero Cu -> W4S STI500 -> Kimber Kable 8TC -> Dynaudio Contour S1.4s

Still missing the W4S and Dynaudio, so currently have only oppo -> hero -> cheapo rca to stereo adaptor -> Audio engine 5.  ;D.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on June 01, 2010, 21:00
There's a few new dynaudio owners recently but unfortunately their spk is still not available including dXter.

Guys your speakers should be in by next tuesday :D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on June 03, 2010, 13:35
wah got new stock coming in... i feel like buying another pair for 7chn setup. but i know my room too small to feel anything. my current 5chn already overwhelming. :)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: seanyzf on June 03, 2010, 15:47
thinking of upgrading to C1 but my budget only allow me to get a 2nd unit. What should be the price range for a less then 5yr old C1? i believe clitang sold off his for abt 7k+?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: vp171s on June 03, 2010, 16:37
thinking of upgrading to C1 but my budget only allow me to get a 2nd unit. What should be the price range for a less then 5yr old C1? i believe clitang sold off his for abt 7k+?

Might have to upgrade your (Caspian) amp as well to make the best of the C1 ...
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: seanyzf on June 03, 2010, 16:46
That is the thing! only either 1 can come 1st.. So i still thinking amp or speakers 1st.  ???
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dXter on June 03, 2010, 17:17
That is the thing! only either 1 can come 1st.. So i still thinking amp or speakers 1st.  ???

I will go with speaker first, 'cos I think 2nd hand C1 is hard to come by? For amps, there are many options available.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on June 04, 2010, 00:04
Yes. Speakers ultimately comes 1st. The other equipments just plan them accordingly. I realise the contour S1.4 isn't that bad. If one has got a limited budget. The C1 really had me immersed every night, I am glad I did not just settle for the other models. 
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: seanyzf on June 04, 2010, 00:14
but C1 driven by caspian let ppl laff le.. haha can play soft soft nia?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dXter on June 04, 2010, 10:55
I am glad I had not heard the confidence series, if not I may break the bank. 8)

Yes. Speakers ultimately comes 1st. The other equipments just plan them accordingly. I realise the contour S1.4 isn't that bad. If one has got a limited budget. The C1 really had me immersed every night, I am glad I did not just settle for the other models. 
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on June 04, 2010, 11:30
Haha yeah. Well if I did not hear it, I would have just got Focus 110 which was really much better than my previous set. I blame myself for getting poison. Bro clitang lor. Sell 2.4 to buy C1. Got me curious wanna listen to it. Thank goodness it stops there, I did not follow him up sapphire.  ::)   
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: modas88 on June 04, 2010, 11:38
Anyone here with experience with the Dynaudio Acoustics active professional range?

Am thinking of getting the active bookshelves for my computer audio/

Any idea where to get?

Sorry if this os OT to this thread
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on June 04, 2010, 11:47
They aren't really cheaper :)

I saw a pair at the Dyn showroom before. I think Jaben had a deal on the Dyn actives before as well. Though not sure if it's still on. Like with Jaben promos, it only is a good deal when you take the whole bundle. 

I think it's also part of the Benchmark bundles in the US. Not sure if that means AudioTrio can get them.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on June 04, 2010, 12:17
Anyone here with experience with the Dynaudio Acoustics active professional range?

Am thinking of getting the active bookshelves for my computer audio/

Any idea where to get?

Sorry if this os OT to this thread

If you're looking for dynaudio pro range you can contact Peak Fusion @62876020. I believed Jaben at adelphi is their appointed dealer in town.

As for computer usage, we have 2 model available in the consumer range MC-15 & Focus 110A

Prices are $2395 for MC15 and $3470 for Focus 110A ;)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: noinimod on June 04, 2010, 12:27
Anyone here with experience with the Dynaudio Acoustics active professional range?

Am thinking of getting the active bookshelves for my computer audio/

Any idea where to get?

Sorry if this os OT to this thread
I'm using the BM5A and they sound very good. The tonal character is very similar to its passive brothers. Do take note that you have to get a separate volume attenuator/preamp cos the monitors don't have volume knobs.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: modas88 on June 04, 2010, 17:34
If you're looking for dynaudio pro range you can contact Peak Fusion @62876020. I believed Jaben at adelphi is their appointed dealer in town.

As for computer usage, we have 2 model available in the consumer range MC-15 & Focus 110A

Prices are $2395 for MC15 and $3470 for Focus 110A ;)


Thanks mate! Your service online, as in your shop, is superb  :)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on June 05, 2010, 14:29
Haha yeah. Well if I did not hear it, I would have just got Focus 110 which was really much better than my previous set. I blame myself for getting poison. Bro clitang lor. Sell 2.4 to buy C1. Got me curious wanna listen to it. Thank goodness it stops there, I did not follow him up sapphire.  ::)   

C1 is damn good, I guess those who has owned it now or before has no regards or complain about it. it just how you want to "play" with it. the potential of C1 is huge. Sapphire has already totally sold out worldwide. I have noticed the Sapphire display set at Dynaudio show room has gone, It has become a collector item now.....I hope. However, you have to hear it to understand the differences between C1 and Sapphire.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on June 11, 2010, 11:03
This is our latest Dynaudio C1 owner. Hope Kelvin73 don't mind I post his setup up :P

His setup consist of Musical Fidelity Integrated amp & cdp with Silver Audio speaker cables & IC and PS Audio powercords.

Room size was pretty small. Best surprised is the speaker doesn't boom in the room even there wasn't any room treatment. ???

(http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/139/dsc00454.jpg)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on June 11, 2010, 11:14
Room size was pretty small. Best surprised is the speaker doesn't boom in the room even there wasn't any room treatment. ???
(http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/139/dsc00454.jpg)

Hehe.. must be the dumbbell at the back.. good for resonance control hehe
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dXter on June 11, 2010, 12:02
Nice nice :D
Dedicated room for audio.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: francis woo on June 11, 2010, 12:21
This is our latest Dynaudio C1 owner. Hope Kelvin73 don't mind I post his setup up :P

His setup consist of Musical Fidelity Integrated amp & cdp with Silver Audio speaker cables & IC and PS Audio powercords.

Room size was pretty small. Best surprised is the speaker doesn't boom in the room even there wasn't any room treatment. ???

(http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/139/dsc00454.jpg)

That's what I like to see, small speakers in a small room instead of floorstanders... ;D
(Oops...that's me, pls don't flame me..... :P)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on June 11, 2010, 12:28
Quote from: francis woo link=topic=54488.msg567823#msg567823 date=
That's what I like to see, small speakers in a small room instead of floorstanders... ;D
(Oops...that's me, pls don't flame me..... :P)

The C1 may look deceptively small but it performs better than some floorstanders and the placement is just as important.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: nee_savi on June 11, 2010, 12:47
Updated:

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4059/4256506060_926c308ebb_o.jpg)

Thanks Rahul for the pics.
Alast I could get the time and courage to join the forum.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on June 11, 2010, 13:01
This is our latest Dynaudio C1 owner. Hope Kelvin73 don't mind I post his setup up :P

His setup consist of Musical Fidelity Integrated amp & cdp with Silver Audio speaker cables & IC and PS Audio powercords.

Room size was pretty small. Best surprised is the speaker doesn't boom in the room even there wasn't any room treatment. ???

(http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/139/dsc00454.jpg)

if it doesnt boom, is it that he's got a higher ceiling which is compensated with more area space.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on June 11, 2010, 13:07
bro nee_savi, i feel your 200C inside the cabinet is not going to perform as well. reason being its rear ported and in an instant you are not giving it space to breath as it hits the lower regions. but i also see why you not placing them on top of the cabinet. Oh ya, and you place them flat on its surface? no rubber or any form of support? my 2cents
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: nee_savi on June 11, 2010, 14:04
I am feeling it too.  The vovcals are too dim and I end up incresing the vol .. which still dont help much.
Limitation dont have much space on the cabinet top to put it out. So I am planning another round of reno for the cabinet. It didnt turn out as expected.

The whole setup was done in hush hush manner ... but will refine it slowly and as the $$ permits.

Thanks DJO though.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on June 11, 2010, 14:39
I am feeling it too.  The vovcals are too dim and I end up incresing the vol .. which still dont help much.
Limitation dont have much space on the cabinet top to put it out. So I am planning another round of reno for the cabinet. It didnt turn out as expected.

The whole setup was done in hush hush manner ... but will refine it slowly and as the $$ permits.

Thanks DJO though.


You can try adding some support footers... TAOC, Finite Elemente or TuneBlocks. I find it helps to improve the clarity a fair bit when I used them to support my center speaker.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: nee_savi on June 11, 2010, 14:57
Right, its on my list.

Just that need to get time for Adelphi. These days I am spending most of it configuring Denon and Oppo with Media Server for streaming. Want to get a hang on how good it sounds before I spend some bucks on a NAS.

Any thought on that guys.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Audio on June 11, 2010, 15:12
Right, its on my list.

Just that need to get time for Adelphi. These days I am spending most of it configuring Denon and Oppo with Media Server for streaming. Want to get a hang on how good it sounds before I spend some bucks on a NAS.

Any thought on that guys.

Tried doing that but still the playback on CD, SACD, DVD-A on Denon Link is far superior than CD ripped to NAS and then stream through.

You may want to take the NAS budget and get a good 2nd hand Denon Link capable Denon Player instead.

(Audio)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: nee_savi on June 14, 2010, 09:27
Ofcourse the real is real.
But somehow I am more lured by the convinence and handiness of the mediaserver VS the quality.

I was doing some testing along with Rahul yesterday with WAV than with MP3 using my denon 4810 in pure direct mode and the quility seems to be quite good. Just that if OPPO helps with the DLNA part a bit more I could use my Plinius and bypass Denon. WHich should improve the quility a bit more.

For serious listening .. ofcourse as u mentioned CD and other optical media is the ultimate.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: vp171s on June 14, 2010, 10:01
This is our latest Dynaudio C1 owner. Hope Kelvin73 don't mind I post his setup up :P

His setup consist of Musical Fidelity Integrated amp & cdp with Silver Audio speaker cables & IC and PS Audio powercords.

Room size was pretty small. Best surprised is the speaker doesn't boom in the room even there wasn't any room treatment. ???

U got a photo of the other side of the room? Like to see his sitting position relative to the speakers...
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on June 14, 2010, 10:49
U got a photo of the other side of the room? Like to see his sitting position relative to the speakers...


Bro I never take the other section of the room. But his sitting distance to speaker is about 1.8 metres.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: vp171s on June 14, 2010, 12:46

Bro I never take the other section of the room. But his sitting distance to speaker is about 1.8 metres.

U have approximate dimension of the room ? The room is enclosed or with one wall removed ?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: kuryakin on June 14, 2010, 14:04
Hmm, how is the pairing of the Musical Fidelity with C1 (or Dynaudio in general)?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on June 14, 2010, 16:53
Hmm, how is the pairing of the Musical Fidelity with C1 (or Dynaudio in general)?

Hmmm..slightly warm in the combo which is typical MF characteristics. Just abit lack of transparency.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on June 14, 2010, 16:56
U have approximate dimension of the room ? The room is enclosed or with one wall removed ?

Approximately 12 x 10 feets. The room is enclosed.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: nic_wei on June 15, 2010, 14:30
Bought a pair of used Focus 140 last week. The previous owner only use for very short period. How many hour run in needed to reach the Focus 140 best performence?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on June 15, 2010, 14:41
Bought a pair of used Focus 140 last week. The previous owner only use for very short period. How many hour run in needed to reach the Focus 140 best performence?

Wow bro, you upgraded your stuffs very fast eh..especially the nordost cables. Good!

You bought from jan97 rite? You need to clock at least 200-400hrs  :'(

Good luck to your running in. :D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on June 15, 2010, 14:59
wah bro good buy. looking at your signature..... your Sound really top notch!
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: nic_wei on June 15, 2010, 16:00
Wow bro, you upgraded your stuffs very fast eh..especially the nordost cables. Good!

YouHow many hour run in needed to peform it's best? bought from jan97 rite? You need to clock at least 200-400hrs  :'(

Good luck to your running in. :D
Yup, bought from jan97. Wah 200-400 hrs? Still long way to go. The Nordost cables (all used) cost me arms and legs. Next upgrade is Densen DM series. :P
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: nic_wei on June 15, 2010, 16:34
wah bro good buy. looking at your signature..... your Sound really top notch!
That is just my humble setup, using lower level stuff. Bro Stealth's and your sound are the real top notch! :) 
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: swing123 on June 15, 2010, 17:37
just curious, seems like the contour, audience and focus (of course, handful of confidence too) are the more popular choices among the dynaudio fans here. I wonder why DM series is not so well receive? Reason I asked is because I read a US review (through a Taiwan AV site) that DM2/8 is voted one of the top 10 speakers that cost less than US$3k. I will try retrieve the link and post here.

Edited: here is the link - http://news.cnet.com/8301-13645_3-10250539-47.html

(Note: for information purpose only, not to say I fully agree to the selection :P)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on June 15, 2010, 20:24
Although Dynaudio SG still sells them. Rarely anyone will buy them after a comparsion was made on the sound quality between them. Price margin has made some chose the others. Somehow if you listen to DM vs Excite, I would choose Excite.(IMHO)Still there will be bro buying DM if their budget suits this range. If I can top up abit more I would go Focus. & so forth with the higher ranges. Should the DM be priced lower, it will be snapped up as well. It's just how everyone here assess their purchases here. At least that's how I do it.  
Of course the prices go up dramatically as we go higher range  :-X
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on June 15, 2010, 20:28
That is just my humble setup, using lower level stuff. Bro Stealth's and your sound are the real top notch! :) 

wah. Overnight all nordost. Not bad leh, got Any more lobang for power cord n red dawn? You got them locally?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: nic_wei on June 15, 2010, 20:38
wah. Overnight all nordost. Not bad leh, got Any more lobang for power cord n red dawn? You got them locally?
Bought from Audiogon and eBay. I spend few months to collect these cables. ;)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: xerox on June 15, 2010, 22:40
Long long time didn't come in leow. Wah this thread still so happening......  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: douce on June 15, 2010, 23:41
Hi new to Dynaudio. Saw this review bout Focus 110 http://www.enjoythemusic.com/magazine/equipment/1208/dynaudio_focus_110.htm

Is the 110 really that outstanding? BTW i realize alot of bros here use Densen to pair the Dynaudio, does it means it will works well with Densen only? How about amps from Sudgen, Naim or Leema Accoustic? I am midst of revamping my entire setup. Advice needed. Thanks
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on June 16, 2010, 08:34
Hi douce,

I think there are also some other made of amps paired Dynaudio nicely. You may ask Xerox how they sound with Naim. Others like Plinius, Chord Electronics, Musical Fidelity as well in the recent setup in the last pages and many more others.. There's a kind of characteristics on the Densen amps that it's abit hard to describe, some of our bros here liked it and it happen to paired pretty well with Dyns.

The Focus 110 is one of the best mini bookshelf wilh lots of drive. I can only say "small but big sound" I think pretty good value for money among the ranges of Dyns. Fit into small rooms nicely and it can really rock if you have it in living room as well. Thumbs up for Focus 110! :D

Cheers!
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on June 16, 2010, 08:56
Long long time didn't come in leow. Wah this thread still so happening......  ;D

yeah we always happening. So what new stuff you got? or should i ask when was the last time you upgraded/tweaked something?  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dXter on June 16, 2010, 09:17
Bought from Audiogon and eBay. I spend few months to collect these cables. ;)

You must gotten lots of good bargains. I dare not try audiogon and ebay. The nordost cables which you are collecting is mightly impressive already.

Heard the densen pre & pow, nordost and dynaudio setup in the dynaudio showroom and I could not forget the sound. Dark, very sweet in midrange, transparent sounding with good pacing and dynamics but too bad cannot afford to spend 10k on them. Way out of budget.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Quest on June 16, 2010, 10:27
You must gotten lots of good bargains. I dare not try audiogon and ebay. The nordost cables which you are collecting is mightly impressive already.

Heard the densen pre & pow, nordost and dynaudio setup in the dynaudio showroom and I could not forget the sound. Dark, very sweet in midrange, transparent sounding with good pacing and dynamics but too bad cannot afford to spend 10k on them. Way out of budget.
from wat i see.. there are quite a lot of local activity of nordost cable in singapore actually. so if u have patience, u may be able to score some good deals.
unfortunately i had encountered an instance where they were damaged on inspection since the cables are so fragile.. so eventually just buy new to give me peace of mind, and since i wanted it fast.

i think this also put me off buying from overseas sellers too since inspection will be difficult. so far haven't encountered a fake nordost yet. :)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: nic_wei on June 16, 2010, 10:39
Hi douce,

I think there are also some other made of amps paired Dynaudio nicely. You may ask Xerox how they sound with Naim. Others like Plinius, Chord Electronics, Musical Fidelity as well in the recent setup in the last pages and many more others.. There's a kind of characteristics on the Densen amps that it's abit hard to describe, some of our bros here liked it and it happen to paired pretty well with Dyns.

The Focus 110 is one of the best mini bookshelf wilh lots of drive. I can only say "small but big sound" I think pretty good value for money among the ranges of Dyns. Fit into small rooms nicely and it can really rock if you have it in living room as well. Thumbs up for Focus 110! :D


Cheers!
Bro,
Is it a lot of different in sound between Focus 110 and 140? Anyone compare them side by side? :)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: swing123 on June 16, 2010, 10:46
Bro,
Is it a lot of different in sound between Focus 110 and 140? Anyone compare them side by side? :)

LOL, bought oredi still ask for wat? ha ha
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: swing123 on June 16, 2010, 10:49
Next upgrade is Densen DM series. :P

looking at pre+power combo or the int? last week suddenly there were two DM10 on ebay germany and one on netherland, all went for around 600 euro. Consider the euro at all time low, keep an eye out on ebay....
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: nic_wei on June 16, 2010, 10:55
looking at pre+power combo or the int? last week suddenly there were two DM10 on ebay germany and one on netherland, all went for around 600 euro. Consider the euro at all time low, keep an eye out on ebay....
Thanks bro. No budget now. :(
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: raystinger on June 16, 2010, 11:04
Hi folks, I'm currently using the Usher S520 powered by NAD 326BEE via the CA DACMagic. I'm looking to upgrade the speakers and have been hearing all the good things about Dynaudio, especially the Focus 110 and Audience 52. I'm limited to bookshelf speakers due to space constrain within my bedroom. May I know whats a good "next step up" replacement for my Usher? I understand that the Dynaudio speakers are low in sensitivity, so I'm wondering if my 50 WPC NAD will be able to supply enough juice for it. Also, may I know whats the rough retail price of the above 2 sets of speakers? Do feel free to share your experience on them, thank you. :)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dXter on June 16, 2010, 12:07
Hi folks, I'm currently using the Usher S520 powered by NAD 326BEE via the CA DACMagic. I'm looking to upgrade the speakers and have been hearing all the good things about Dynaudio, especially the Focus 110 and Audience 52. I'm limited to bookshelf speakers due to space constrain within my bedroom. May I know whats a good "next step up" replacement for my Usher? I understand that the Dynaudio speakers are low in sensitivity, so I'm wondering if my 50 WPC NAD will be able to supply enough juice for it. Also, may I know whats the rough retail price of the above 2 sets of speakers? Do feel free to share your experience on them, thank you. :)

Your NAD looks good enough to drive the speakers in a small room. You can always ask to bring down your amp to try on the dyns. Can't remember the retail prices though.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: xerox on June 16, 2010, 12:47
yeah we always happening. So what new stuff you got? or should i ask when was the last time you upgraded/tweaked something?  ;D

Long long time didn't upgrade leow, i think the setup is good enough. Recently my friend pass me a pair of silver speaker wire which i think is not bad. Other then that didn't do much.Now no $$$ play hifi as i am into watches...... pocket burn 1 hole...  :'(
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: xerox on June 16, 2010, 13:10
Hi new to Dynaudio. Saw this review bout Focus 110 http://www.enjoythemusic.com/magazine/equipment/1208/dynaudio_focus_110.htm

Is the 110 really that outstanding? BTW i realize alot of bros here use Densen to pair the Dynaudio, does it means it will works well with Densen only? How about amps from Sudgen, Naim or Leema Accoustic? I am midst of revamping my entire setup. Advice needed. Thanks

I think which speaker goes well with which amp is subjective. The above 3 brand you mention have different sound character, Sudgen is Class A setup and i had once heard before the Masterclass series which IMO had a smooth and warm presentation. For Naim, it is PRAT , the pace and attack is second to none alot of people say Naim is good for rock only i don't really agree i find it an all rounder.For Leema i do not have a chance to audit it , i think we have a local agent in ground floor of Adephi selling it. Maybe you can go and take a look. You are welcome to listen my humble setup, PM me.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: kelvin73 on June 16, 2010, 20:32
This is our latest Dynaudio C1 owner. Hope Kelvin73 don't mind I post his setup up :P

His setup consist of Musical Fidelity Integrated amp & cdp with Silver Audio speaker cables & IC and PS Audio powercords.

Room size was pretty small. Best surprised is the speaker doesn't boom in the room even there wasn't any room treatment. ???

(http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/139/dsc00454.jpg)

Wowo Nick. Of course I don't mind but expect more discount from you in future  ;)

I am saving up for FE 3 or 4 tier rack and PS Audio PPP. Perhaps you should also consider the latter. I am sure the sound will be another level up.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: xerox on June 16, 2010, 21:37
Wah C1 again.... so envy....
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on June 16, 2010, 22:38
Simplicity is the key to attaining good SQ. guess i am the only one using C1 for L/R on my HT setup. only 1 word, i am overwhelmed!!! to think these are used as surrounds with those bro's having C2/C4 in front.  :P
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: francis woo on June 16, 2010, 22:45
Thumbs up, you have made the right choice..... ;D i.e., a small speaker in a small room, an excellent small speaker for that matter........ ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: seanyzf on June 16, 2010, 22:56
Thumbs up, you have made the right choice..... ;D i.e., a small speaker in a small room, an excellent small speaker for that matter........ ;D

i also prefer these type of setups instead of big floor standers. opp might get bash up..  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: kelvin73 on June 17, 2010, 14:09
In fact I prefer floor stander anytime over book shelf. I bought C1 because I would be shifting in a year's time and C1 makes the job easier. I plan to use C1 for abt 3 yrs and would eventually sell it off and buy floor stander. I really missed the low frequencies of the floor stander.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: xerox on June 17, 2010, 14:14
In fact I prefer floor stander anytime over book shelf. I bought C1 because I would be shifting in a year's time and C1 makes the job easier. I plan to use C1 for abt 3 yrs and would eventually sell it off and buy floor stander. I really missed the low frequencies of the floor stander.

Nice setup you have bro.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on June 17, 2010, 15:25
In fact I prefer floor stander anytime over book shelf. I bought C1 because I would be shifting in a year's time and C1 makes the job easier. I plan to use C1 for abt 3 yrs and would eventually sell it off and buy floor stander. I really missed the low frequencies of the floor stander.

you got to be kidding! C1 to me already played lower freqs than some floorstanders i know. Now can take queue number sure there will be alot of bros wanting to buy your C1 after 3yrs.  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dXter on June 17, 2010, 15:42
you got to be kidding! C1 to me already played lower freqs than some floorstanders i know. Now can take queue number sure there will be alot of bros wanting to buy your C1 after 3yrs.  ;D

As good as the C1 is, there will be better speakers. But definitely agree on the 2nd statement and it would still be with warranty too! Maybe bookmark and revisit 3 years later. :D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: arcustic on June 17, 2010, 15:44
you got to be kidding! C1 to me already played lower freqs than some floorstanders i know. Now can take queue number sure there will be alot of bros wanting to buy your C1 after 3yrs.  ;D

+1   :D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Jsen on June 17, 2010, 15:49
Bros, I wonder how's the Nordost's Frey ic performance in a dyn setup? Can share your experience? Thanks.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on June 17, 2010, 16:02
Bros, I wonder how's the Nordost's Frey ic performance in a dyn setup? Can share your experience? Thanks.

Smooth, sweet sounding with layering of details and micro-dynamics, wide soundstage not bright at all. 8)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Jsen on June 17, 2010, 16:06
Smooth, sweet sounding with layering of details and micro-dynamics, wide soundstage not bright at all. 8)

Thanks bro for your reply. I wonder will the layering of details and micro-dynamics sounds slightly digital like the Acrolink's? Thanks again.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on June 17, 2010, 16:08
Thanks bro for your reply. I wonder will the layering of details and micro-dynamics sounds slightly digital like the Acrolink's? Thanks again.

Nope! difinately NOT. If it does, I wouldn't have use it for so long liao :D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on June 17, 2010, 16:10
As good as the C1 is, there will be better speakers. But definitely agree on the 2nd statement and it would still be with warranty too! Maybe bookmark and revisit 3 years later. :D

hehe, say hello to C4 (or for bro clitang.. Sapphire).

Me? I am partial to the Temptations.. now need to go bodybuilding so can cart away one side when dynaudio boss not looking

hehe

Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Jsen on June 17, 2010, 16:13
Nope! difinately NOT. If it does, I wouldn't have use it for so long liao :D

This ic is interesting. In the same price btw, which ic do you think will give it a good fight? Thanks.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on June 17, 2010, 16:23
This ic is interesting. In the same price btw, which ic do you think will give it a good fight? Thanks.

Sorry Jsen, I didn't managed to try some other made in this price range. I'm a follower of Nordost cables since they came out many years ago and I don't intend to change to other made.

Hmmm..what about Crystal cables and Kimber Silver Streak or KACG. I had try it on my setup before but it didn't suite my taste :P
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: arcustic on June 17, 2010, 16:32
IMHO, you could understand certainly characteristic/signature of cables.  But until your try it out on your set up, you won't really know if you like it or not.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Jsen on June 17, 2010, 16:36
Sorry Jsen, I didn't managed to try some other made in this price range. I'm a follower of Nordost cables since they came out many years ago and I don't intend to change to other made.

Hmmm..what about Crystal cables and Kimber Silver Streak or KACG. I had try it on my setup before but it didn't suite my taste :P

It's ok stealth. I've tried the Crystal's reference before but it's seem like it makes my system sounds faster. It's ok with jazz, pop or rock music but it don't sounds right in vocal nor classical music. Wanted to try out the Kimber Select series but it's seem like the price is pretty high. :( No choice now but to look for a used pair to try out. Thanks again.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Jsen on June 17, 2010, 16:41
IMHO, you could understand certainly characteristic/signature of cables.  But until your try it out on your set up, you won't really know if you like it or not.

Fully agree with you. I wonder any bro can loan the rca ic to me although bro Quest has offered to loan his xlr version to me?  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: jonlee on June 17, 2010, 16:46
Which goes lower?  C1 or Thiel 2.4?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on June 17, 2010, 16:55
Bro Jon, need to say meh..off coz CS2.4 lah..33Hz - 36kHz ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: jonlee on June 17, 2010, 17:17
I really don't know, that's why I ask leh.  :)

Which dyn can go as low as the 2.4?  Hard to compromise on the scale of music from the 2.4.  ;p
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: tky on June 17, 2010, 17:23
Hi Stealth Bro, I've been thinking about the Nordost Frey.  May I ask how's the "PRAT" factor like for the Frey?  And have you had chance to compare it to say audience au24.  Your thoughts on this is very much appreciated.  Thanks!

Smooth, sweet sounding with layering of details and micro-dynamics, wide soundstage not bright at all. 8)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on June 17, 2010, 17:47
Hi Stealth Bro, I've been thinking about the Nordost Frey.  May I ask how's the "PRAT" factor like for the Frey?  And have you had chance to compare it to say audience au24.  Your thoughts on this is very much appreciated.  Thanks!


Hmmm..the frey is not really the fastest ic in the nordost range. It's propagation is 80% speed of light. But is quite balnce in the sound. Long ago I did bought a AU24 from one our XP forumer. It had very smooth highs but lack of dynamics or attacks so I only use for a week and sold it off. Again, this is very personnel preference, no offence to those using it.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on June 17, 2010, 17:50
I really don't know, that's why I ask leh.  :)

Which dyn can go as low as the 2.4?  Hard to compromise on the scale of music from the 2.4.  ;p

Hahaha...hmmm..focus 360 @31Hz, C2 @ 28Hz, C4 @27Hz and Consequence @18Hz :o

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: francis woo on June 17, 2010, 18:05
As good as the C1 is, there will be better speakers. But definitely agree on the 2nd statement and it would still be with warranty too! Maybe bookmark and revisit 3 years later. :D

Of course, but I bet you that in a small room, the C1 will beat most floorstanders hands down...IMHO..... :D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: rahul on June 17, 2010, 18:18
Hahaha...hmmm..focus 360 @31Hz, C2 @ 28Hz, C4 @27Hz and Consequence @18Hz :o

 ;D ;D

Even my Focus 220 MKII does 32 Hz–25 kHz (± 3 dB) . I have a REL sub but dont use it anymore because the bass from F220 is very good already. Fast and punchy.
Infact my friends sometimes think I have switched on my REL. My room is 3.5m x 4m.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on June 17, 2010, 20:22
hehe, say hello to C4 (or for bro clitang.. Sapphire).

Me? I am partial to the Temptations.. now need to go bodybuilding so can cart away one side when dynaudio boss not looking

hehe
yo DH
I saw audiogon selling temptations USD$28k.
Mayb can ask bro clitang for advise how to bring it in sg? ;D
but Dynaudio boss not going to be happy if you buy. Haha.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on June 17, 2010, 21:47
yo DH
I saw audiogon selling temptations USD$28k.
Mayb can ask bro clitang for advise how to bring it in sg? ;D
but Dynaudio boss not going to be happy if you buy. Haha.

Lucky Dynaudio boss alerted me liao :)

That one old model.. use old Esotar driver, not Esotar 2!!

The one I heard is new one.. :)

Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Bongteo on June 17, 2010, 22:14
Quote from a frd: "Excited & Focused on her Contour with Confidence; that's the Evidence of Temptation!"®
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dXter on June 17, 2010, 22:37
Quote from a frd: "Excited & Focused on her Contour with Confidence; that's the Evidence of Temptation!"®

So what's the Consequence? ???
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on June 17, 2010, 22:49
So what's the Consequence? ???

The mothership... It's the new limited edition (not the standard production range of excite/focus/contour/confidence).

(http://elitechoice.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/dynaudio-consequence-ultimate-edition_2.jpg)

Chio rite?

It's on display at the Dyn showroom


Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: tky on June 17, 2010, 22:59
Thanks Stealth.  I currently use the AU24 and have friends who uses it too.  To me, the au24 is a neutral cable - like water.  (Neutral is relative and subjective). From experiences, it seems to take on the characteristic of your upstream source as I'd the opportunity to understand this from my own setup as well as a friend's.  

To put it simply, on my setup, I find the best it can do is classic rock but not heavy / metal rock.  But the same cable on my friend's setup, admitted much higher grade than mine, it does all these so well that I would even say it's on par with a well setup Naim in PRAT.   The au24 is coherence and has a nice flow, but you're right that it can be a bit slow depending on setup. 

As I'm pretty happy with my main components, I was thinking of trying to fine tune my setup further.  From your comment, I think the Frey might be worth a try.  Thanks for sharing bro!   I'll pm you further if you don't mind as I didn't want to digress from the key topic around Dynaudio speakers here.

Thanks bro!  

Hmmm..the frey is not really the fastest ic in the nordost range. It's propagation is 80% speed of light. But is quite balnce in the sound. Long ago I did bought a AU24 from one our XP forumer. It had very smooth highs but lack of dynamics or attacks so I only use for a week and sold it off. Again, this is very personnel preference, no offence to those using it.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on June 17, 2010, 23:32
Quote from a frd: "Excited & Focused on her Contour with Confidence; that's the Evidence of Temptation!"®


So what's the Consequence?

more like the answer to be " gaining Authentic Fidelity with a big hole in the pocket "

nice quote, now how to blend in the Sapphire?  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Bongteo on June 18, 2010, 00:01
DXter: give some credit to this quote lah, no need think until so thorough :p my Frd tot of it after he bought the focus :)

DJQ: Thk bro for the compliment, oh & limited edition not included hehe.. ;)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: jonlee on June 18, 2010, 07:48
Any bro can share what is the price of C2 in sg?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on June 18, 2010, 08:10
Any bro can share what is the price of C2 in sg?

$16,600 per pair :D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on June 18, 2010, 09:12
Any bro can share what is the price of C2 in sg?

Itchy backside liao? :)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dXter on June 18, 2010, 09:24
DXter: give some credit to this quote lah, no need think until so thorough :p my Frd tot of it after he bought the focus :)

DJQ: Thk bro for the compliment, oh & limited edition not included hehe.. ;)

It was meant as a punchline to your statement but failed. :P
Good effort by your friend but me failed. lol
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Bongteo on June 18, 2010, 09:48
It was meant as a punchline to your statement but failed. :P
Good effort by your friend but me failed. lol

Ohhhh haven't totally fail, now then I get it :p haha.. But it's a gd one.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dXter on June 18, 2010, 15:08
Just received the contour s1.4s, one of the speaker, the logo on the back is pasted upside down. Is this correct? ???
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on June 18, 2010, 16:05
Oops..sorry about that.. :P

You just need to slowly work around the side of the crest and it will come out. Next alternative is to use hairdryer to blow onto it to heat up the plate abit for easy removable.

If you need help, let me know.

dynaudio
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dXter on June 18, 2010, 17:00
Oops..sorry about that.. :P

You just need to slowly work around the side of the crest and it will come out. Next alternative is to use hairdryer to blow onto it to heat up the plate abit for easy removable.

If you need help, let me know.

dynaudio

Thanks for the call nicholas, tried to use my penknife and it broke the penknife when I was one third done. Will try the hairdryer method, or just leave it be since it won't affect the sound anyway. :)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on June 18, 2010, 17:37
No worries if the crest is bend..I've already ask Dynaudio to send me the spare crest.

Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on June 18, 2010, 23:17
Thanks for the call nicholas, tried to use my penknife and it broke the penknife when I was one third done. Will try the hairdryer method, or just leave it be since it won't affect the sound anyway. :)

sweet! another Dyn user...   ;D

i was at the showroom half the afternoon. missed everyone who came. watched Day after tomorrow. Floorstanders for surround damn shoik!!!
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on June 19, 2010, 08:08
You can get the Audience 72 for you rear back surround lah ;D ;D

Then add a SUB300 or 500 confirmed tokkong sound ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: douce on June 20, 2010, 01:34
Thanks bro xerox for allowing me to drop by for an audit. It seems the Naim and Focus 110 blend together well, the Naim certainly drive the 110 well. The bass is tight, punchy, sound dynamic and amazingly it don't sound harsh at all. In a way i felt his amp and source is overkill for his 110  :P , he told me he had no money for speaker which i felt is funny He told me he prefer this 110 as he compared it against an expensive 805S before  :o he felt the 110 go lower and deeper in the low freq than 805S and for the price of the 110 it is damn VFM to him.  Anyway interesting audit , for now i need to go around to source for my speaker and amp. Once again thanks for your time.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on June 20, 2010, 16:12
You can get the Audience 72 for you rear back surround lah ;D ;D

Then add a SUB300 or 500 confirmed tokkong sound ;D

nope. I got no space for floorstanders in the rear. Ppl already spend so much tweaking anything and everything. Must have a limit.  :)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Bahia on June 20, 2010, 19:56
Hi all Dyn bros,

Got my C1s a few weeks back. Here are some pics of my setup. Been bz, so only managed to post now  :)
Esoteric DV-60 --> Chord CPM2650 --> C1

Sorry if the pics are not clear, Upgrade speakers but no money to upgrade camera. So got to use hp camera. lol  ::)

(http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i12/lavardin/Pic2.jpg)
(http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i12/lavardin/Pic3.jpg)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: seanyzf on June 20, 2010, 20:57
nice setup, which nordost r u using?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on June 20, 2010, 21:09
Bahia is the wrong nick for a new C1 user hehe ;)

ps are u the one who poisoned stealth with the FE rack in the first place?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: domj on June 20, 2010, 21:22
Bahia is the wrong nick for a new C1 user hehe ;)

ps are u the one who poisoned stealth with the FE rack in the first place?

Haha..dunno who poison who.. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on June 20, 2010, 22:21
Bahia is the wrong nick for a new C1 user hehe ;)

ps are u the one who poisoned stealth with the FE rack in the first place?

Ya..took me just a few months to decide to buy it but it took him 2 years :P
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: sjtan on June 21, 2010, 08:23
Ya..took me just a few months to decide to buy it but it took him 2 years :P
Latest update...  :P

(http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j297/i_mel69/Contour-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on June 21, 2010, 08:30
Wow..sibei kin..post up liao ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: sjtan on June 21, 2010, 08:34
Wow..sibei kin..post up liao ;D
Hehe.. OK lah.. My budget only allow this.. Cannot afford the C1  :'(.. But this is really a good pair of speakers. I guess I can also immerse myself in hours of music every night from now on.  :P
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: sjtan on June 21, 2010, 08:50
Bahia is the wrong nick for a new C1 user hehe ;)

ps are u the one who poisoned stealth with the FE rack in the first place?
Eh... Who poisoned who ?? Hahaha...  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: viper1912 on June 21, 2010, 09:43
Latest update...  :P

(http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j297/i_mel69/Contour-1.jpg)


Need to wait till end of Nov then can audition this sibeh Tok-kong setup liao........may b gam gam hor.......run in for few months liao.. ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Bahia on June 21, 2010, 09:52
nice setup, which nordost r u using?

Hi seanyzf,

I'm using Frey speaker cables and interconnect. Powercords vishnu :)


Hi Doggie Howser,

Haha.. err.. I think I was the one who got him to notice the FE racks at first. But he took a shorter time to decide buying.. lol

 
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Bahia on June 21, 2010, 09:58
Since like i need to change my nick.. But I cant chg it in profile. Anyone knows how to change?  ::)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: C130 on June 21, 2010, 10:54
Latest update...  :P

(http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j297/i_mel69/Contour-1.jpg)



hi sjtan,

nice wooden rack you got there. is it a 'custom made' or did you buy it?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on June 21, 2010, 11:19
Ah the wonders of how pictures of bros setup entice ppl to do something different. All very neat and nice. Damn I gotta repaint my walls. Green cannot blend. Duh.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Quest on June 21, 2010, 11:20
Ah the wonders of how pictures of bros setup entice ppl to do something different. All very nice and nice. Damn I gotta repaint my walls. Green cannot blend. Duh.
if not have to paint ur rack and speakers. ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on June 21, 2010, 11:23
Ah the wonders of how pictures of bros setup entice ppl to do something different. All very nice and nice. Damn I gotta repaint my walls. Green cannot blend. Duh.

Told you liao, green how to blend with cherry finishes :P Since you're free these days, better start repainting the room. Oh..at least make it more coozy feeling  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on June 21, 2010, 11:33
Told you liao, green how to blend with cherry finishes :P Since you're free these days, better start repainting the room. Oh..at least make it more coozy feeling  ;D

haha thanks leh. But I am not exactly free as I am taking up some day courses to bring myself up to a higher level. Have to leave it till funds permit year end. 
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: sjtan on June 21, 2010, 11:51

hi sjtan,

nice wooden rack you got there. is it a 'custom made' or did you buy it?
Hi C130, it's a customised rack. One and only in SG (I think)...  :P
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: C130 on June 21, 2010, 11:54
Hi C130, it's a customised rack. One and only in SG (I think)...  :P

thanks sjtan.... can advise how much you spent on it?



Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: sjtan on June 21, 2010, 12:06
thanks sjtan.... can advise how much you spent on it?




If I can remember, it was $1,300. Price varies with the laminate type and complexity of the construction also.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: sjtan on June 21, 2010, 12:08
The price excludes design. I drafted out the design and just got the carpenter to follow my specs.
If you require professional designer to draft it out, the cost may be higher.  :o
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: C130 on June 21, 2010, 12:14
The price excludes design. I drafted out the design and just got the carpenter to follow my specs.
If you require professional designer to draft it out, the cost may be higher.  :o


wow....at $1300... that's lots of $$$ for the rack without professional designer.

but very nicely done..... thanks for the info.  :)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: arcustic on June 21, 2010, 12:27
Latest update...  :P

(http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j297/i_mel69/Contour-1.jpg)


Congrats.  Very nice set up.   ;)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: sjtan on June 21, 2010, 12:32

wow....at $1300... that's lots of $$$ for the rack without professional designer.

but very nicely done..... thanks for the info.  :)

Maybe it was around $1,200 lah.. Can't really recall.  ::)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on June 21, 2010, 12:34
Congrats.  Very nice set up.   ;)

High time you upgrade your X12 liao... :P

Spend less on your road bike.. ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: sjtan on June 21, 2010, 12:35
Congrats.  Very nice set up.   ;)
Thanks for your compliments. Simple set up.. Nothing fancy.. No dedicated room also. :)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on June 21, 2010, 13:13
Thanks for your compliments. Simple set up.. Nothing fancy.. No dedicated room also. :)

that's what made it attractive!  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Bahia on June 21, 2010, 14:41
no dedicated room nvm.. the sound is really good lo... heard it myself :)
even got kopi to lim.. wat more can i ask for? :p
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: arcustic on June 21, 2010, 17:33
High time you upgrade your X12 liao... :P

Spend less on your road bike.. ;D

Wah-lau.....before upgrading the X12, a lot of stuff have to upgrade as well....first and foremost would be the amp.

My bike still cost less than the C1   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Hi! on June 21, 2010, 21:23
Hi All,

I am another Dynaudio fan. Just want to share the pictures of my room.
Please feel free to comment and give some tips to improve the sound.
Thanks!

(http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx70/ikhwanh/P1020961.jpg)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on June 21, 2010, 22:28
Hi bro. Wow another C1 owner. 1st thing I see are your base of your stand4. I notice you didn't use the spikes given? It will be good to have the spikes installed with proper spike base like taoc. Esle totally change into ceraballs.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on June 21, 2010, 22:29
Nice setup! Hendra.

Notice you didn't put the spikes on?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: nic_wei on June 21, 2010, 23:33
Wow! Another C1! :o  Nice setup.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on June 21, 2010, 23:41
Hi All,

I am another Dynaudio fan. Just want to share the pictures of my room.
Please feel free to comment and give some tips to improve the sound.
Thanks!

(http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx70/ikhwanh/P1020961.jpg)


Nice setup, good to see another C1 owner. Suggest to place your equipment on a good Hifi rack and spikes for your speaker stands. It does not do justice to your beautiful setup.

Just curious, are you in Singapore?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: link23 on June 22, 2010, 01:05
no dedicated room nvm.. the sound is really good lo... heard it myself :)
even got kopi to lim.. wat more can i ask for? :p

Should find time to go to your place liao bro!!!

In Case you dont know who i am, i'm your polymate that you bump into when you got your Dyns.  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Hi! on June 22, 2010, 10:29
I am planning to get ceraball for the base of the stand4s soon so I couldn't bother installing the spikes because it will make unneccessary damage to the carpet.

My powercord from the wall to my distributor is only 1.5m and it barely made it. So if I want to use the proper hi-fi rack, not only that I need to spend on the rack but I also need to buy new powercord (maybe 3m long). The budget is just not ready for that at the moment.  :D

I am in Australia, not in Singapore. I would really like to come to Dynaudio fans' places when I go to Singapore to listen to your systems and learn from you guys. In here, there is very very limited number of people who play hi-fi. Even the shops in here, they don't set their equipments nicely/correctly. I couldn't even see any staging even when they use very expensive equipments. As far as I know, you can only purchase audiophile discs from only 1 shop in my city. Here is just not the place to play hi-fi I guess.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on June 22, 2010, 11:03
Hi

This is disturbing news for those of us who are planning to make a switch over to Oz soon :(

Can you have a look at amazon.co.jp ?

I order from there for SHMCDs/SACDs. It's a bit more expensive than local shops but better selections.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Audio on June 22, 2010, 11:07
Hi

This is disturbing news for those of us who are planning to make a switch over to Oz soon :(


You are going to miss all of us !!!!

(Audio)

Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: arcustic on June 22, 2010, 11:19
Hi

This is disturbing news for those of us who are planning to make a switch over to Oz soon :(

Can you have a look at amazon.co.jp ?

I order from there for SHMCDs/SACDs. It's a bit more expensive than local shops but better selections.

+1  Or you may opt for music server and download all your albums instead.  The resolution for download now is really amazing.  I have heard that some are even better than XRCD/SACD.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: arcustic on June 22, 2010, 11:29
I am planning to get ceraball for the base of the stand4s soon so I couldn't bother installing the spikes because it will make unneccessary damage to the carpet.

My powercord from the wall to my distributor is only 1.5m and it barely made it. So if I want to use the proper hi-fi rack, not only that I need to spend on the rack but I also need to buy new powercord (maybe 3m long). The budget is just not ready for that at the moment.  :D

It would be great for you to use ceraball on the base of the stands.  It will significantly impact your total presentation.

As for your power cords contraint, you may want to explore amp racks instead...these racks are usually not high.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on June 22, 2010, 11:39
Hi

This is disturbing news for those of us who are planning to make a switch over to Oz soon :(

yeah you will miss us.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on June 22, 2010, 11:44
On the upside, won't kena poisoned every few days

Hi! said no good dealer setups.

Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dXter on June 22, 2010, 11:49
Maybe you could then try their local audiophile speakers. ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: arcustic on June 22, 2010, 11:56
On the upside, won't kena poisoned every few days

Hi! said no good dealer setups.



Not necessary though.  Coming to this thread can also kena poison  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on June 22, 2010, 13:02
+1  Or you may opt for music server and download all your albums instead.  The resolution for download now is really amazing.  I have heard that some are even better than XRCD/SACD.

HD audio downloads should be better than XRCD. SACD has a certain analog sound to it that I quite like. Main issue with HD downloads is the range of titles. I think I see primarily classical and some jazz but not really mainstream titles. Slash's SHMCD isn't too bad. Heard the LP that ical got is even better :)

Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on June 22, 2010, 13:03
Not necessary though.  Coming to this thread can also kena poison  ;D

Hopefully can see but can't buy is a good antidote ;)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: arcustic on June 22, 2010, 13:14
Hopefully can see but can't buy is a good antidote ;)

Wau-lau, this is like having a itch but cannot scratch   :'( 
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on June 22, 2010, 13:36
Wau-lau, this is like having a itch but cannot scratch   :'( 
[/quote

No mah.. spend more time listening less time trying to tweak :) not a bad thing
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: clitang on June 22, 2010, 13:47
Wau-lau, this is like having a itch but cannot scratch   :'( 
[/quote

No mah.. spend more time listening less time trying to tweak :) not a bad thing

Maybe you would consider the local brand - Plinius.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: arcustic on June 22, 2010, 13:49
Wau-lau, this is like having a itch but cannot scratch   :'( 
[/quote

No mah.. spend more time listening less time trying to tweak :) not a bad thing

Agree....listen and enjoy.  Tweaking can be fun too  :D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dXter on June 22, 2010, 14:08
No worries if the crest is bend..I've already ask Dynaudio to send me the spare crest.

Hi nicholas, give me a call when the crest arrives. As of now, the speakers are still standing around looking good with no amp to drive them. Earliest deliver of the amp is tomorrow evening, fingers crossed. Can't wait to listen to them.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dynaudio on June 22, 2010, 14:32
Hi nicholas, give me a call when the crest arrives. As of now, the speakers are still standing around looking good with no amp to drive them. Earliest deliver of the amp is tomorrow evening, fingers crossed. Can't wait to listen to them.

No problem. Enjoy ur setup with ur new amp tmr  :D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Hi! on June 22, 2010, 14:39
Hi

This is disturbing news for those of us who are planning to make a switch over to Oz soon :(

Can you have a look at amazon.co.jp ?

I order from there for SHMCDs/SACDs. It's a bit more expensive than local shops but better selections.

When are you going to Oz? I live in Melbourne. If you happen to come to Melbourne as well, maybe we can start something from there.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on June 22, 2010, 14:44
When are you going to Oz? I live in Melbourne. If you happen to come to Melbourne as well, maybe we can start something from there.

Cool. I don't expect to move so soon but it's in the cards.. hopefully :)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on June 22, 2010, 14:46
Maybe you would consider the local brand - Plinius.

I think that's NZ brand and more ex than SG :P

Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on June 22, 2010, 14:47
Agree....listen and enjoy.  Tweaking can be fun too  :D

I think the problem is that you end up caught in the process of achieving the last mile that you forget why you are there in the first place. I remember coming back one evening after I got my speakers (before all these upgrades and tweaks).. the speakers had just finished running in, and it was a long week at work.. being able to sit back and enjoy the music was just amazing. These days I end up repeating tracks and switching interconnects. Not a good sign hehe
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: arcustic on June 22, 2010, 15:29
I think the problem is that you end up caught in the process of achieving the last mile that you forget why you are there in the first place. I remember coming back one evening after I got my speakers (before all these upgrades and tweaks).. the speakers had just finished running in, and it was a long week at work.. being able to sit back and enjoy the music was just amazing. These days I end up repeating tracks and switching interconnects. Not a good sign hehe

Well, I noticed this habit in me.  If I have not listen to my set up for a while, I was able to sit down and enjoy the music.  However, if I listen to it constantly overtime, some how I will try to tweak and see what else I can come up with.  Having said that, I'm no longer tweaking my current set up....I think I have fully optimise my gears.  Moving forward, if I were to do anything else, it would upgrading my gears.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Bahia on June 22, 2010, 15:39
Should find time to go to your place liao bro!!!

In Case you dont know who i am, i'm your polymate that you bump into when you got your Dyns.  ;D

My polymate?? Are you Dxxxxx??? lol... finally see u here.. Call me :p
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dXter on June 23, 2010, 22:25
Wow, Hi-Fi is very refreshing.  :o
I am acquiring new experience with my CDs collection. Just yesterday I got the delivey SACD version of Norah Jones' Come away with me (made in austria). Since when I go demo, this is what is usually played by the vendors, so i thought, "hack, why not buy one and see if I can hear if this is good on my system".

So I played it on the oppo 83SE (2 channels) to the AudioEngine A5, and I thought the music was so-so. Today, played it on the fresh contour s1.4 powered by the W4S STI-500, and it sounds totally different. Smooth, buttery voice. Clear and crisp high. Damn, it feels great. :D

Imaging seems not there yet as high frequencies seems to stick around the speaker cabinets, none of the disappearing effect. Maybe I'll adjust the positions later on. Let them break-in first.

Thanks Ray for delivering the amp this evening. ;D
The dyns are sweet.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on June 23, 2010, 22:31
wah thumbs up!!! sometimes i still wonder why bros here have problem that their oppo SE, all say lacking this or that. very obvious by now. with your combo! haha
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dXter on June 23, 2010, 23:28
Cannot say like that, they comparing between different high-end cdps, me only have one. :P

W4S say need 300hours to run-in, dyn says need 300 hours to run-in. The SE also need time to run-in (though currently should be around 50hours for this one). I think I still have mileage to rediscover music.  ;D
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on June 24, 2010, 01:54
Oh? Oppo SE how much Nia. How to topple $5k~$15k high end cdp. There must be limitations mah. Yes run in. After which you appreciate more.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: stealth on June 24, 2010, 08:19

So I played it on the oppo 83SE (2 channels) to the AudioEngine A5, and I thought the music was so-so. Today, played it on the fresh contour s1.4 powered by the W4S STI-500, and it sounds totally different. Smooth, buttery voice. Clear and crisp high. Damn, it feels great. :D

Imaging seems not there yet as high frequencies seems to stick around the speaker cabinets, none of the disappearing effect. Maybe I'll adjust the positions later on. Let them break-in first.

Thanks Ray for delivering the amp this evening. ;D
The dyns are sweet.

Hi dXter,

Good to hear the S1.4 sound good with W4S amplifier :D Yes, you have too really run the speakers in. Now the sound is not opening up yet like everything coming from the centre image. This is what our bro Sjtan is facing with his new S1.4 also but this is not his 1st Dyns so just need to be patient with the running in :'( So maybe you can post some pics please ;)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DizzyD on June 24, 2010, 08:38
Cannot say like that, they comparing between different high-end cdps, me only have one. :P

W4S say need 300hours to run-in, dyn says need 300 hours to run-in. The SE also need time to run-in (though currently should be around 50hours for this one). I think I still have mileage to rediscover music.  ;D

Bro

May I know which preamp are you using? I am too considering pairing up Focus with w4s Dac2 and poweramps. I dont have Focus nor w4s yet but have a original Oppo83.

Cheers
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on June 24, 2010, 08:47
I believe bro dxter is using the built in gain control on the oppoSE. You can control volume with the remote itself. Good in a sense he minimises equipment on the chain. Instant amplifcation from the oppoSE direct.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on June 24, 2010, 09:21
STI-500 is an integrated amp.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on June 24, 2010, 11:18
Oh. Din notice the I. Oops.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dXter on June 24, 2010, 12:24
Bro

May I know which preamp are you using? I am too considering pairing up Focus with w4s Dac2 and poweramps. I dont have Focus nor w4s yet but have a original Oppo83.

Cheers

Thanks DH. Ya DJQ and DizzyD, it is the W4S STI-500 integrated amp which I am using. Initially I used to just plug the oppo to my powered speakers but the player's volume control leaves a lot to be desired like playing CD too loudly compared to SACD and BD, sticking to max 100 whenever a new disc is put in. I am glad I do not have to use that anymore.

Tonight, let me try some heart pounding orchestra music, see how the bass is doing. And Karajan's Berliner Philharmonic Bolero gold CD for the dynamics.

DizzyD, I think the W4S DAC1 sounds better than the oppo 83SE DAC, so DAC2 with powered amps might be a good choice. But with DAC2, you will only be able to use digital inputs which means no DSD direct with SACD wor. Do you want to lose that?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on June 24, 2010, 12:40
Can use DAC2 with the STPSE Pre for best of both worlds.

Best scenario: W4S sells a new CD SACD DVDA transport that has I2S connection over HDMI.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: seanyzf on June 24, 2010, 13:15
Today, played it on the fresh contour s1.4 powered by the W4S STI-500, and it sounds totally different. Smooth, buttery voice. Clear and crisp high. Damn, it feels great. :D


Hi dxter, u bought 4ws online or local retail shop?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dXter on June 24, 2010, 13:26
Hi dxter, u bought 4ws online or local retail shop?

Hi seanyzf, bought it through raindropaudio. Get from local dealer is easier and a wee bit cheaper since do not need to deal with W4S direct and go through with foreign exchange & GST hassle. My order took quite a while to be fulfilled because W4S were clearing the back orders for the DACs which happened to shipped around the same period.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: seanyzf on June 24, 2010, 13:35
oh so raindrop is retailing it.. maybe drop by to have a listen to the sti1000.. 
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: fengshenwee on June 24, 2010, 13:39
oh so raindrop is retailing it.. maybe drop by to have a listen to the sti1000.. 

I doubt they will have a set for u to audition. They dun keep stock. I ordered a set of STI-500 today. Hope it reaches me soon. lol
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: DJQ on June 24, 2010, 13:45
I doubt they will have a set for u to audition. They dun keep stock. I ordered a set of STI-500 today. Hope it reaches me soon. lol

orh switch camp liao. Time to update your signature!!!
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: seanyzf on June 24, 2010, 13:49
I doubt they will have a set for u to audition. They dun keep stock. I ordered a set of STI-500 today. Hope it reaches me soon. lol

ah.. so no audition ar? have you compare thme with bel?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dXter on June 24, 2010, 13:55
ah.. so no audition ar? but y u wanna change your bel to w4s when both r 500w?

I auditioned their ST500 powered amp using the redwineaudio preamp as passive pre. When you are there can listen to the DAC1 too. If he has DAC2 there lagi better since that unit itself is a pre-amp.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: dXter on June 24, 2010, 14:00
I doubt they will have a set for u to audition. They dun keep stock. I ordered a set of STI-500 today. Hope it reaches me soon. lol

Congrats on your purchase! My wife commented that the dyn in the setups at the dyn showroom sounded better. I said give it more break-in time.  :'(
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: seanyzf on June 24, 2010, 14:02
Ya, when i bring down my 52se it also sound better.. I guess most likely because of the densen amp driving it..
Title: Re: Dynaudio Speaker Thread
Post by: fengshenwee on June 24, 2010, 15:15
orh switch