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Title: Mulan 木兰 - A 4K HDR Demo worthy release
Post by: desray on September 06, 2020, 08:52
Keep a lookout for the 4K HDR release when it comes out end of the year. Simply watching the 1080p rip last night, I am awed by how good the color rendition and the clarity it exhibited. The colors are vibrant and really showcase the best of HDR. I will definitely be getting the physical disc as it is hard to get a stellar 4K HDR transfer these days. If Disney + digital streaming quality is anything go by...I'm pretty sure it will be even better :)

(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/disney/images/e/e9/Mulan_%282020%2C_Disney%2B_Original_Poster%29.jpg/revision/latest/top-crop/width/360/height/450?cb=20200809175515)

Even Vincent agreed :)

http://www.youtube.com/v/iWO0nWuX_rA&ab_channel=HDTVTest&fs=1

Title: Re: Mulan 木兰 - A 4K HDR Demo worthy release
Post by: rock123 on September 06, 2020, 11:42
Watched it yest on big screen with family. exciting movie for us.

Wow at Mulan's house there. the colours r awesome.

I love 1 part when the bad guy Bori Khan is fighting the king at the bamboo tall tower there.
His dialogue is coming from front heights there petty obvious. ( will need to rewatch that scene)

Definitely worth to get a 4k HDR copy.  Hope looking forward to have  good SQ too

PS:  Saw report that her daughter urge her to film Mulan.
It's Disney Happiness for everybody cheers . :)
Title: Re: Mulan 木兰 - A 4K HDR Demo worthy release
Post by: desray on September 06, 2020, 20:15
Watched it yest on big screen with family. exciting movie for us.

Wow at Mulan's house there. the colours r awesome.

I love 1 part when the bad guy Bori Khan is fighting the king at the bamboo tall tower there.
His dialogue is coming from front heights there petty obvious. ( will need to rewatch that scene)

Definitely worth to get a 4k HDR copy.  Hope looking forward to have  good SQ too

PS:  Saw report that her daughter urge her to film Mulan.
It's Disney Happiness for everybody cheers . :)
Yea that scene with Boris Khan talking down to the emperor from a high altitude. But apart from that, I thought the Atmo effects only used sparingly. The only times that are more active for the Atmos channels are the witch turning into a rock of ravens and flying overheads.

I will focus on the brilliant 4K HDR transfer instead for this movie.


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Title: Re: Mulan 木兰 - A 4K HDR Demo worthy release
Post by: rock123 on September 06, 2020, 20:57
Yea that scene with Boris Khan talking down to the emperor from a high altitude. But apart from that, I thought the Atmo effects only used sparingly. The only times that are more active for the Atmos channels are the witch turning into a rock of ravens and flying overheads.

I will focus on the brilliant 4K HDR transfer instead for this movie.


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yah bro. The PQ definitely worth a check out. very enjoyable movie. love it . highly recommended to rewatch on big screen with 4k HDR cheers
Title: Re: Mulan 木兰 - A 4K HDR Demo worthy release
Post by: francis wu on September 06, 2020, 21:58
You know what, I can hardly recognise Jet Li :P ;D

Also I felt weird when the dialogue is in English ;D

But it’s a watchable movie with excellent color tone :)
Title: Re: Mulan 木兰 - A 4K HDR Demo worthy release
Post by: rock123 on September 06, 2020, 22:09
You know what, I can’t hardly recognise Jet Li :P ;D

Also I felt weird when the dialogue is in English ;D

But it’s a watchable movie with excellent color tone :)

What? is he in the movie? Gosh ?
Title: Re: Mulan 木兰 - A 4K HDR Demo worthy release
Post by: francis wu on September 06, 2020, 22:21
Surprised me too so look again and try to spot him ;D
Title: Re: Mulan 木兰 - A 4K HDR Demo worthy release
Post by: HDTV_noobie on September 07, 2020, 01:19
Surprised me too so look again and try to spot him ;D

Yeah.  Took me by surprise too.  What?  Jet Li's in it?  Where?

That's where I replay and true enough saw that it was indeed him.  I thought it was another chinese actor, couldn't remember his name.
Title: Re: Mulan 木兰 - A 4K HDR Demo worthy release
Post by: khlim_77 on September 07, 2020, 09:02
will it come out with chinese version ?
Title: Re: Mulan 木兰 - A 4K HDR Demo worthy release
Post by: dbchoong on September 07, 2020, 10:53
Here he is..

(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/7229d393-c3b8-4703-a41e-e876546d2612/ddp2i1w-21dccfca-74dc-4a24-99bc-2862b94ce557.jpg/v1/fill/w_1280,h_1896,q_75,strp/jet_li_as_the_emperor_of_china_in_mulan__2020__by_artlover67_ddp2i1w-fullview.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3siaGVpZ2h0IjoiPD0xODk2IiwicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvNzIyOWQzOTMtYzNiOC00NzAzLWE0MWUtZTg3NjU0NmQyNjEyXC9kZHAyaTF3LTIxZGNjZmNhLTc0ZGMtNGEyNC05OWJjLTI4NjJiOTRjZTU1Ny5qcGciLCJ3aWR0aCI6Ijw9MTI4MCJ9XV0sImF1ZCI6WyJ1cm46c2VydmljZTppbWFnZS5vcGVyYXRpb25zIl19.upGPOTVfKDS50xs1jXzyuFavAPUw3ZsLzWaOJP_jG5s)
Title: Re: Mulan 木兰 - A 4K HDR Demo worthy release
Post by: Jagdpanzer on September 07, 2020, 14:06
This is a Disney movie and not the typical HK or China period flicks with lotsa gore. English was the original dialogue. Definitely no Chinese version unless dubbed.

The theme song Reflection has so many versions. I prefer the Chinese version by the actress


will it come out with chinese version ?

Title: Re: Mulan 木兰 - A 4K HDR Demo worthy release
Post by: rock123 on September 07, 2020, 14:12
This is a Disney movie and not the typical HK or China period flicks with lotsa gore. English was the original dialogue. Definitely no Chinese version unless dubbed.

The theme song Reflection has so many versions. I prefer the Chinese version by the actress



Yah my favorite Chinese version.
https://youtu.be/cxPGNjhpOAc
Title: Re: Mulan 木兰 - A 4K HDR Demo worthy release
Post by: Jagdpanzer on September 07, 2020, 14:31
She can sing too.. Unfortunately she is already 33 and won't have many years to play youthful roles.

Surprise Jackie Chan is not in this movie. Donnie Yen looks so old now.

The version by Christina Aguilera was terrible with a lot of synthesised bass. Erhu was missing too.
Title: Re: Mulan 木兰 - A 4K HDR Demo worthy release
Post by: francis wu on September 07, 2020, 18:14
If you ask me, I would prefer Lea Salonga’s original soundtrack in Mulan 2000, the animated film! Her voice is crystal clear, controlled and persuasively powerful ;D

Title: Re: Mulan 木兰 - A 4K HDR Demo worthy release
Post by: Sunblock on September 09, 2020, 18:11
Watch it last night and it was very disappointing. It's a Western movie and a western interpretation of Chinese culture. The costumes, make-up, etc are almost identical to Fu Manchu's "evil empire" style. The script is very shallow and I almost walk away half way during the movie.
Title: Re: Mulan 木兰 - A 4K HDR Demo worthy release
Post by: desray on September 09, 2020, 19:11
Watch it last night and it was very disappointing. It's a Western movie and a western interpretation of Chinese culture. The costumes, make-up, etc are almost identical to Fu Manchu's "evil empire" style. The script is very shallow and I almost walk away half way during the movie.

Yea that scene with Boris Khan talking down to the emperor from a high altitude. But apart from that, I thought the Atmo effects only used sparingly. The only times that are more active for the Atmos channels are the witch turning into a rock of ravens and flying overheads.

I will focus on the brilliant 4K HDR transfer instead for this movie.


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Haha...that's the reason "why" I mentioned in this post. The movie also doesn't work for me. Wooden acting and it feels weird when all Chinese cast spoke in English.


Title: Re: Mulan 木兰 - A 4K HDR Demo worthy release
Post by: YANG on September 09, 2020, 19:25
AMDK money AMDK perspective,even if they want to make the female characters like street hooks,and they can strike off the female leads names if they protests... replace with other Asian faces...
Title: Re: Mulan 木兰 - A 4K HDR Demo worthy release
Post by: jaffrie on September 09, 2020, 19:55
Yes we all can critisize the movie etc etc but look deeper, there's no denying that we Chinese regardless of citizenship are becoming far too important for the West to overlook in terms of commerce etc.
Title: Re: Mulan 木兰 - A 4K HDR Demo worthy release
Post by: tane0019 on September 09, 2020, 20:48
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Title: Re: Mulan 木兰 - A 4K HDR Demo worthy release
Post by: YANG on September 09, 2020, 22:10
How come i received different set of poster one?
Top Mulan, bottom AhJo KamL?? ?
Title: Re: Mulan 木兰 - A 4K HDR Demo worthy release
Post by: karimun on September 10, 2020, 11:51
yes no so good .the essence of chinese culture and history not well portrayed in english dialogue. fight scene also average only. not sure why they spend so much to make this movie?
Title: Re: Mulan 木兰 - A 4K HDR Demo worthy release
Post by: Doggie Howser on September 10, 2020, 12:55
it wasn't as bad a movie as I was expecting. Visuals are striking on the HDR version. Atmos was noticed in a few scenes (arrows flying overhead from memory) but not particularly memorable.

I read somewhere that this is like going to a West End Fusion Asian Chinese restaurant and ordering a Chinese dish.

But in all honesty, it is no worse than The Great Wall. If anything, the Great Wall was more egregious - because that had a Chinese director who should have known better.

I didn't like that the musical aspect of the original animated movie was removed. The lead singer's voice at the closing credits wasn't too bad but the version that will always be the seminal version must be Coco Lee's one. I really liked her English rendition, preferring it to Christina Aguilera's (both original and the 2020 version). I think Coco only sang the Mandarin version for the 2020 release

All in all, I did like the cameos from Ming Na Wen at the end *heart*
Title: Re: Mulan 木兰 - A 4K HDR Demo worthy release
Post by: desray on September 10, 2020, 19:28
it wasn't as bad a movie as I was expecting. Visuals are striking on the HDR version. Atmos was noticed in a few scenes (arrows flying overhead from memory) but not particularly memorable.

I read somewhere that this is like going to a West End Fusion Asian Chinese restaurant and ordering a Chinese dish.

But in all honesty, it is no worse than The Great Wall. If anything, the Great Wall was more egregious - because that had a Chinese director who should have known better.

I didn't like that the musical aspect of the original animated movie was removed. The lead singer's voice at the closing credits wasn't too bad but the version that will always be the seminal version must be Coco Lee's one. I really liked her English rendition, preferring it to Christina Aguilera's (both original and the 2020 version). I think Coco only sang the Mandarin version for the 2020 release

All in all, I did like the cameos from Ming Na Wen at the end *heart*

Oh yes...for fleeting moment only. :P
Title: Re: Mulan 木兰 - A 4K HDR Demo worthy release
Post by: desray on September 10, 2020, 19:30
So we can safely conclude that the movie is so-so but the visuals rendered in 4K HDR is breathtaking...the question is, will you get the disc when it is release in a couple of month's time? :)
Title: Re: Mulan 木兰 - A 4K HDR Demo worthy release
Post by: Doggie Howser on September 10, 2020, 20:41
Ever since I got DisneyPlus I haven’t been buying that many titles. The last sale I did get some movies that I had always wanted - Spiderman Far from Home and the original Star Wars trilogy and Rogue One. I already had Last Jedi but didn’t feel compelled to get Force Awakens or Rise.

I’m guessing Mulan would be the same. I’d expect it would get into the free section of DisneyPlus at some stage.
Title: Re: Mulan 木兰 - A 4K HDR Demo worthy release
Post by: desray on September 10, 2020, 21:06
Ever since I got DisneyPlus I haven’t been buying that many titles. The last sale I did get some movies that I had always wanted - Spiderman Far from Home and the original Star Wars trilogy and Rogue One. I already had Last Jedi but didn’t feel compelled to get Force Awakens or Rise.

I’m guessing Mulan would be the same. I’d expect it would get into the free section of DisneyPlus at some stage.

Yes, you're right...it will be avail for free sometime in Dec according to some sources. I wonder when Disney+ officially coming to Singapore so that we can do away the need to use VPN.


Title: Re: Mulan 木兰 - A 4K HDR Demo worthy release
Post by: Doggie Howser on September 11, 2020, 10:49
LMAO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIH-eFqBLP4

http://www.youtube.com/v/kIH-eFqBLP4&fs=1
Title: Re: Mulan 木兰 - A 4K HDR Demo worthy release
Post by: Doggie Howser on September 11, 2020, 14:37
So much hate :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZccG-wtt5FA

http://www.youtube.com/v/ZccG-wtt5FA&fs=1
Title: Re: Mulan 木兰 - A 4K HDR Demo worthy release
Post by: desray on September 11, 2020, 15:46
So much hate :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZccG-wtt5FA

http://www.youtube.com/v/ZccG-wtt5FA&fs=1

LoL...well summarized. I agreed fully!
Title: Re: Mulan 木兰 - A 4K HDR Demo worthy release
Post by: jerome_the_lang on September 13, 2020, 20:59
Make no mistake this is a political film.
Actor was specifically chosen for certain purpose...

(https://i.postimg.cc/D0qwJdnp/20200913-205532.jpg)
Title: Re: Mulan 木兰 - A 4K HDR Demo worthy release
Post by: Jagdpanzer on September 13, 2020, 22:50
Disney needs to tick all the boxes of the Chinese authority requirements before the movie could be released.
Forget about the distorted portrayal on the empowerment of women. I guess those critics didn't serve NS. How could an attractive woman who dressed like a man survive or cover her modesty in an army camp without removing the top? How could a slim slender woman manage to carry two buckets of water up the hill and beat the guys? She did not have an ironman suit. Mulan is just a folklore.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/09/12/business/media/disney-mulan-china.amp.html
Title: Re: Mulan 木兰 - A 4K HDR Demo worthy release
Post by: YANG on September 13, 2020, 23:29
.... How could an attractive woman who dressed like a man survive or cover her modesty in an army camp without removing the top? How could a slim slender woman manage to carry two buckets of water up the hill and beat the guys?...
Some women hv frontal features as flat as airways leh... Some hv at least little prominent siewmai size... And all these can be well disguised. Don't be surprised, there are some females with manly look, manly chin, eyebrows, and forehead, that total add up, if tighten up abit, hair cut short... U couldn't tell is a handsome young man or woman unless she puts on a dress!
This happens to one of my colleague, that i was skeptical initially whether she's a crossdresser... Until the day her tummy started bulging up, only then i stopped to look for the "apple" in the throat.
Title: Re: Mulan 木兰 - A 4K HDR Demo worthy release
Post by: jerome_the_lang on September 14, 2020, 00:51
Mulan 2020 tio kan

Wednesday, September 9, 2020,USA Senator Josh Hawley sent a letter to Disney CEO Robert Chapek condemning the company for whitewashing the ongoing genocide of Uighurs and other Muslim ethnic minorities during the production of Mulan. In producing the movie, Disney traveled to the Xinjiang province where atrocities are occurring, collaborated with local Chinese Communist Party (CCP) propaganda organs, and gave “special thanks” to a CCP agency in charge of administering concentration camps in Xinjiang. Senator Hawley writes that Disney has crossed the line from complacency into complicity.

Excerpts from letter requesting Disney's answers to the following questions:

Does Disney agree that the Chinese Communist Party is responsible for imprisoning and torturing Uighurs and other Muslim ethnic minorities in Xinjiang?

Why did Disney choose to film portions of Mulan in Xinjiang, despite the fact that the Chinese Communist Party was imprisoning and torturing Uighurs and others in Xinjiang at the same time?

What assistance did Disney receive from the Turpan Public Security Bureau and other Chinese government agencies involved in the atrocities in Xinjiang?

How did Disney compensate the Turpan Public Security Bureau and other Chinese agencies for any assistance rendered?

Is Disney still providing compensation to the Chinese entities listed in the Mulan closing credits, and does it plan to provide compensation to these entities in the future?

Has Disney coordinated, collaborated, or otherwise engaged with any of the Chinese actors that have been designated for sanctions by the Treasury Department on account of their contributions to the atrocities in Xinjiang?

Does Disney condemn the atrocities committed by the Chinese Communist Party against Uighurs and other Muslim ethnic minorities in Xinjiang?

Will Disney sever its relationships with the Chinese Communist Party in response to the Party’s abuses in Xinjiang, Hong Kong, and elsewhere?

Will Disney pull Mulan from Disney+ in order to avoid any further glorification of Xinjiang or validation of the Chinese Communist Party officials and agencies responsible for the atrocities in that province?

Will Disney donate any of the profits drawn from Mulan to non-governmental organizations dedicated to fighting human trafficking and the other atrocities underway in Xinjiang?

Please deliver your responses to these questions to my office by September 30, 2020. Thank you for your attention to this urgent matter.

Sincerely,

Josh Hawley
United States Senator



Title: Re: Mulan 木兰 - A 4K HDR Demo worthy release
Post by: Doggie Howser on September 16, 2020, 13:45
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_USHuhOqyk

http://www.youtube.com/v/j_USHuhOqyk&fs=1

LMAO

".. cos if they don't live up to his expectations, they get sent home.."
"so wouldn't Mulan's father just have been sent home if he had gone?"

silence
"omg"
😂
Title: Re: Mulan 木兰 - A 4K HDR Demo worthy release
Post by: jerms on September 16, 2020, 15:26
mulan make u dulan
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