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Title: Demo, share and fellowship at my place
Post by: petetherock on May 13, 2019, 20:29
I've begun a new thread to invite friends and members over for a sharing, kopi and fellowship session/s.
I'm not a pro, and there are certainly plenty of people who are much better at the art of HT and audio, which is why it's called a sharing session and not a tutorial or something..


Will post timings etc here..
Title: Re: Demo, share and fellowship at my place
Post by: petetherock on May 13, 2019, 20:30
I've gotten a few requests for this and I've been considering very hard..
I used to do this a lot more often in the past, and I made many friends and tried to share as much as I could but a very negative experience a few years ago put me off this and I stopped for a while. But at the behest of friends and bros here, I've done some sharing and with my new den almost ready, the requests have been coming so I figured I'll try again even if it means some may be adverse experiences...

So here goes... 
Title: Re: Demo, share and fellowship at my place
Post by: petetherock on May 13, 2019, 20:33
For those who are keen, please pm me and post your interest in this forum and this thread.

Some suggestions:

- do your homework and know some basics about HT and audio. The stickies here offer some basic info.
- if you are doing up a place, know what you want first:
a- budget
b- room size and layout (bring a map, photos etc)
c- know your expectations eg if you have a small room you may not want 7 base speakers and 4 Atmos
d- know your timeframe - renovations take time and you need to let your contractor know when to cater for certain things eg rockwool in your ceiling for example
e- know about WAF - if your wife doesn't want big speakers, or surround speakers at ear level and cables which are visible, then be realistic
f- know about speaker placement - Audyssey can't generate magic if your speakers are in funny positions, or if you have gigantic speakers in tiny rooms

Title: Re: Demo, share and fellowship at my place
Post by: petetherock on May 13, 2019, 20:35
When coming:

- bring your favo CDs, BR discs and some scenes you are familar with for demo
- bring your wife if you wish but let me know
- please confirm your date / timing and be punctual, because sometimes I take time off to do it, and I ask my family to go out so you can play the music louder
Title: Re: Demo, share and fellowship at my place
Post by: petetherock on May 13, 2019, 20:35
OR
- or just come for coffee and chill !
- we used to do these coffee sessions where the food and coffee are more important than the subwoofer and bass chat..

Sometimes we just hang out..
Title: Re: Demo, share and fellowship at my place
Post by: petetherock on May 13, 2019, 20:37
First session:
Saturday 18/5
Timing mid afternoon (exact time TBC cos I'm working that day)
Send me a pm with your contact and I'll let you know the address and timing.
Please sms me 20 / 30 min before you come so I can know if you can't make it.

Cheers
Title: Re: Demo, share and fellowship at my place
Post by: desray on May 13, 2019, 20:45
Good effort there Pete :)
Title: Re: Demo, share and fellowship at my place
Post by: ronildoq on May 14, 2019, 08:38
Great effort there Pete, it’s always nice to see someone sharing their experiences with our local community

Congrats on your newly completed set up !

Must have been one Helluva journey....
Title: Re: Demo, share and fellowship at my place
Post by: vieri on May 14, 2019, 08:57
Can I come just for the wine?  :P :P
Title: Re: Demo, share and fellowship at my place
Post by: dsj88 on May 14, 2019, 09:16
Hi Pete. Is this at your new place. I will probably be in Singapore in Sep. Maybe can catch up with you at your new place and listen to your set up. Last time I did that was at your place in YCK.
Title: Re: Demo, share and fellowship at my place
Post by: petetherock on May 14, 2019, 09:32
Can I come just for the wine?  :P :P
Sure bro
Good to hear from you.
Wine helps music appreciation too.
Title: Re: Demo, share and fellowship at my place
Post by: petetherock on May 14, 2019, 09:33
Hi Pete. Is this at your new place. I will probably be in Singapore in Sep. Maybe can catch up with you at your new place and listen to your set up. Last time I did that was at your place in YCK.
Give me a buzz when you’re in town bro. Bring home a 4K player ha! And some of those pies 🥧
Title: Re: Demo, share and fellowship at my place
Post by: petetherock on May 14, 2019, 09:34
Good effort there Pete :)

I truly commiserate with you sir ..
I’ve had mostly experiences but a couple have really shook me badly. But hey the good experiences definitely outweigh the bad. And the forum has given me much so it’s good to give back
Title: Re: Demo, share and fellowship at my place
Post by: desray on May 14, 2019, 13:26
My advice to Pete and other members (playing hosts) who willingly open up their place for demo sessions to put aside ego and “I-am-always-right” attitude...Be open and receptive to constructive feedback from others (guests) even though it may not be always what you want to hear. I firmly believed that no one member is out there to stir up some storm to spite someone...same applies to guests, be thankful and respectful to the host who sacrifice his time and space to welcome you into his house and listen to the setup. You may not agree with some of the host’s comments or the choices he made to his setup. Just listen objectively as I’m sure he has a reason to it. Whenever possible, guest should be encouraged to give their frank opinions and perhaps even suggest some solution or workaround if encounter similar issue(s). That’s exchanging of ideas and communication should be two-way instead of unilateral. EQ plays an important role here. Sometimes we are too eager to interrupt to hear the reasoning of members when they gave their frank opinion (especially negative ones).

I never consider myself as a Pro but rather as an enthusiast, hence I am seldom offended by members remarks on my setup. When Cash passed some snide remarks on the Audyssey Workshop I run where I tried to pass down my knowledge of what I’ve learnt over the years to members (mostly newbies), I admit that I am discouraged at first but if we can see past that (reflect upon it) and deep down knowing the time and amount of effort I have expended to help even just 1% of those group of members to understand how to do a proper calibration, I think I have achieved my goal here.

Bear that in mind, with the right mindset and attitude, I’m sure everyone will have a great time ahead.



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Title: Re: Demo, share and fellowship at my place
Post by: deadrick on May 14, 2019, 22:58
although i come here only on and off, i was really thankful when i just started getting into HT, some friendly dudes are kind enough to offer me visit their place to understand more about HT. this really helps me learn quickly, as some of this stuff are so hard to understand, like dual sub better than single sub but how to really understand by imagining.
Title: Re: Demo, share and fellowship at my place
Post by: petetherock on May 15, 2019, 08:00
Thanks for the feedback
Please don’t get me and I may say most other bros who open their homes..
I / we value feedback. In fact it helps us improve. So if someone was willing to tell me what’s wrong and how I can improve, it’s great!


However I think the issues was personal criticism and negative feedback that doesn’t centre on the HT.


Nevertheless I will readily it’s been mostly pleasant.


That’s why I’m doing this again. I must also add, I’m not a commercial person and this is purely a hobby sharing.
Title: Re: Demo, share and fellowship at my place
Post by: petetherock on May 15, 2019, 08:07
I also note the various requests and the additional non PH timings
For those I’ll get back to you as I have to ask my CO first
It’s my den but my time is now not only my own  :-[
I look forward to seeing new faces as well as meeting old friends.


For new members please just say a few words about yourself and leave your contact.
Cheers
Title: Re: Demo, share and fellowship at my place
Post by: desray on May 17, 2019, 17:14
Thanks for the feedback
Please don’t get me and I may say most other bros who open their homes..
I / we value feedback. In fact it helps us improve. So if someone was willing to tell me what’s wrong and how I can improve, it’s great!


However I think the issues was personal criticism and negative feedback that doesn’t centre on the HT.


Nevertheless I will readily it’s been mostly pleasant.


That’s why I’m doing this again. I must also add, I’m not a commercial person and this is purely a hobby sharing.

Pete, just ignore those personal attacks.



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Title: Re: Demo, share and fellowship at my place
Post by: petetherock on May 21, 2019, 00:16
I’ve got Tuesday evening free if anyone is keen..
Short notice...
Title: Re: Demo, share and fellowship at my place
Post by: desray on May 21, 2019, 17:32
I’ve got Tuesday evening free if anyone is keen..
Short notice...

Bro, its harder for most of us to drop by after work in the evening...preferably over the weekend will be the best (if possible) imo.

Title: Re: Demo, share and fellowship at my place
Post by: petetherock on May 21, 2019, 19:25
Ah bro, you'll be surprised.. I get more pm to do weekdays.. one bro is here right now ;)
Tomorrow another...
Folks away, so I can host, and there's no noise filtering to my neighbours..
Title: Re: Demo, share and fellowship at my place
Post by: FookLai on May 22, 2019, 09:06
Was at Pete place last night, it was a very nice house. Pete as usual is a great host.

Overall the renovation is well thought out and the sound very much tune to Pete liking (which rightly so). Overall I think the soundstage, imaging & surround panning are definitely there and I find that the sound is not localize at all.
Title: Re: Demo, share and fellowship at my place
Post by: ralfale on May 22, 2019, 10:59
I concurred Pete is a great host. Been to his place long ago and always ready to share his experiences and knowledge.
Title: Re: Demo, share and fellowship at my place
Post by: sdds on May 22, 2019, 11:18
Yes 100 % agree on his hospitality , was at Pete place and my daughter love it . 
Title: Re: Demo, share and fellowship at my place
Post by: petetherock on May 22, 2019, 11:43
Bros
You guys are too kind as usual :)
I enjoy a good surround experience and I listen at much lower levels than most bros
So bass is definitely not my strong point. Disappointed looks I’ll see ha ha
But you guys are very polite.
However I do have plenty to share on building a home.
And I’m always up for a catch up and a cup of tea..


These days I need to ask permission from the boss about opening hours
But here and there I do have an hour or two. Cheers


So if you are keen just pm and it’s a simple fellowship over sound and coffee
Title: Re: Demo, share and fellowship at my place
Post by: petetherock on May 22, 2019, 13:39
FYI bros
Folks out on Friday
So if anyone wants to come that evening pm me.
Not too late
Thanks
Title: Re: Demo, share and fellowship at my place
Post by: desray on May 22, 2019, 21:13
Ah bro, you'll be surprised.. I get more pm to do weekdays.. one bro is here right now ;)
Tomorrow another...
Folks away, so I can host, and there's no noise filtering to my neighbours..

Glad to be proven wrong here...but for me, I will NEVER organize any demo session in the evening for obvious reason - e.g. cranking up the volume but more importantly, I reached home very late at night after work during weekdays. :(


Title: Re: Demo, share and fellowship at my place
Post by: YANG on May 22, 2019, 22:16
one of these days。。。must bring Johnny Wank to either one of ur place to pewpewpew!
Title: Re: Demo, share and fellowship at my place
Post by: petetherock on May 22, 2019, 22:56
Glad to be proven wrong here...but for me, I will NEVER organize any demo session in the evening for obvious reason - e.g. cranking up the volume but more importantly, I reached home very late at night after work during weekdays. :(



Yeah, truth..
Luckily my next door neighbours are quiet friendly and I did ask, no noise even when the bros come over and crank it up :)
I use a wall of Billy bookcases as a buffer too for noise..
Title: Re: Demo, share and fellowship at my place
Post by: Steve.Y on May 23, 2019, 11:57
Thanks Pete for your effort and time to host and share.  I’d like to come over to share and learn from you.  Will PM you soon to arrange.


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Title: Re: Demo, share and fellowship at my place
Post by: petetherock on May 23, 2019, 20:36
If you and rock123 want to visit tomorrow (Friday night) let me know.. cheers
Title: Re: Demo, share and fellowship at my place
Post by: Steve.Y on May 23, 2019, 20:38
If you and rock123 want to visit tomorrow (Friday night) let me know.. cheers
I can’t do it tomorrow as a meeting has been scheduled quite sometime back.  But I can visit you on Saturday or any evening after work next week.


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Title: Re: Demo, share and fellowship at my place
Post by: petetherock on May 24, 2019, 09:27
I’ve arranged a session 12-1.30 pm Saturday
Should be able to accommodate two more bros.
Cheers
Title: Re: Demo, share and fellowship at my place
Post by: Steve.Y on May 24, 2019, 20:17
I’ve arranged a session 12-1.30 pm Saturday
Should be able to accommodate two more bros.
Cheers
I have PM you. 


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Title: Re: Demo, share and fellowship at my place
Post by: iceflight on May 27, 2019, 12:15
I’ve arranged a session 12-1.30 pm Saturday
Should be able to accommodate two more bros.
Cheers

I missed this. I have been to your place long ago. Perhaps if you have another session arranged I can pop over to experience your setup?

Or if you like can always arrange to come over my place, help to listen in.
Title: Re: Demo, share and fellowship at my place
Post by: whitesox on May 27, 2019, 21:06
I can’t do it tomorrow as a meeting has been scheduled quite sometime back.  But I can visit you on Saturday or any evening after work next week.


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Hello Bro Steve,
I believe you have visited a few houses already.

Perhaps you can come over to my house (if you wont mind) ... then I will need to borrow your ears to make a summary based on your observations
so I can improve my setup.
Surr effect, ceiling surr effect (atmos), center for vocal, and also bass impact from subwoofers.

Cheers
 ;D
Title: Re: Demo, share and fellowship at my place
Post by: petetherock on June 09, 2019, 22:34
This coming Tuesday
I’m available from 2-4 pm in case bros are free, cheers
Title: Re: Demo, share and fellowship at my place
Post by: jeffong on June 10, 2019, 13:58
Seems like you have got rid of your previous console setup in the living room..
Title: Re: Demo, share and fellowship at my place
Post by: petetherock on June 10, 2019, 17:09
Seems like you have got rid of your previous console setup in the living room..
Not sure why you said that bro...
I'm still using my mahogany console..
Title: Re: Demo, share and fellowship at my place
Post by: jeffong on June 10, 2019, 18:52
Sorry.. I meant the whole facade you had previously where you had some cabinets around the TV area. 🤣
Title: Re: Demo, share and fellowship at my place
Post by: petetherock on July 29, 2019, 13:58
12th August - around lunch time, I might host one session.
Please pm me to confirm and I'll give you the timing / address etc..

- if you have questions, do write them down
- if you are doing up a room / rebuilding, do bring your floor plans we can chat more specifically
- do some reading up first
- you are welcome to bring any demo material you like

Cheers
Title: Re: Demo, share and fellowship at my place
Post by: petetherock on August 09, 2019, 12:50
A blessed national day bros
See you all about 12pm on Monday
Bring your fav demo tracks etc
Usb is fine but my Sony doesn’t play MKV
Or plans if you have any rebuild projects
Will have some kopi to chill too heh
Title: Re: Demo, share and fellowship at my place
Post by: desray on August 09, 2019, 13:02
A blessed national day bros
See you all about 12pm on Monday
Bring your fav demo tracks etc
Usb is fine but my Sony doesn’t play MKV
Or plans if you have any rebuild projects
Will have some kopi to chill too heh

Guys, enjoy! Working now :(
Title: Re: Demo, share and fellowship at my place
Post by: petetherock on August 10, 2019, 07:52
Guys, enjoy! Working now :(

It’s Monday la bro... buzz me if you change your mind
We have five now, so if you have questions come a bit earlier say 1130 or stay back to get your answers especially if you are new to HT or Atmos..
Title: Re: Demo, share and fellowship at my place
Post by: desray on August 10, 2019, 08:57
It’s Monday la bro... buzz me if you change your mind
We have five now, so if you have questions come a bit earlier say 1130 or stay back to get your answers especially if you are new to HT or Atmos..

Thanks Pete for inviting a noob like me. Cheers.



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Title: Re: Demo, share and fellowship at my place
Post by: petetherock on August 10, 2019, 09:04
Thanks Pete for inviting a noob like me. Cheers.

 

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Wah bro.... More like抛砖引玉。。I have a couple of pros dropping by too, but it's as much a fellowship and coffee as it is a demo... Wine kopi etc...
Title: Re: Demo, share and fellowship at my place
Post by: desray on August 10, 2019, 09:05
Wah bro.... More like抛砖引玉。。I have a couple of pros dropping by too, but it's as much a fellowship and coffee as it is a demo... Wine kopi etc...

LoL...kidding lar.
Title: Re: Demo, share and fellowship at my place
Post by: petetherock on August 12, 2019, 15:13
We had a session where we showed the theme of "immersion"
How to make it sound like you are in the scene

Some tracks to try in your own homes:

RIDDICK BR - 'only 5.1'
The scene where the creatures come out in the monsoon and walk on the zinc roof

Battlefield LA BR - again 'only 5.1'
The assault on the bus on the freeway - bullet trajectory test

Back Hawk Down 4k
- the whole has ambience as well as good fight scenes
- eg when you hear the prayers, do they reverberate around you
- bullets falling onto you from the "Small Birds" when you are SGT Eversmann and you have to pull the bullets out of your shirt

 Sherlock Holmes 1:
- when Holmes and Watson are in the abattoir, and you hear Lord Black's voice around you

Sully:
The Atmos track places you in the plane - you hear the click of seat belts, the overhead lights, crew and passengers chatting, then of course the steering and finally the crash in Sully's dream

Many more and thank you for the cake and wine - hope you all carried something home too. Have a good week ahead cheers
Title: Re: Demo, share and fellowship at my place
Post by: kennyluck2000 on August 12, 2019, 19:05
We had a session where we showed the theme of "immersion"
How to make it sound like you are in the scene

Some tracks to try in your own homes:

RIDDICK BR - 'only 5.1'
The scene where the creatures come out in the monsoon and walk on the zinc roof

Battlefield LA BR - again 'only 5.1'
The assault on the bus on the freeway - bullet trajectory test

Back Hawk Down 4k
- the whole has ambience as well as good fight scenes
- eg when you hear the prayers, do they reverberate around you
- bullets falling onto you from the "Small Birds" when you are SGT Eversmann and you have to pull the bullets out of your shirt

 Sherlock Holmes 1:
- when Holmes and Watson are in the abattoir, and you hear Lord Black's voice around you

Sully:
The Atmos track places you in the plane - you hear the click of seat belts, the overhead lights, crew and passengers chatting, then of course the steering and finally the crash in Sully's dream

Many more and thank you for the cake and wine - hope you all carried something home too. Have a good week ahead cheers

Thanks Pete very much for your warm invitation.
Is my first time to meet up with Pete and the rest of members who visited today.
Really enjoyed the session and also make some new friends.
Cheer!
Title: Re: Demo, share and fellowship at my place
Post by: petetherock on August 12, 2019, 20:41
Thanks Pete very much for your warm invitation.
Is my first time to meet up with Pete and the rest of members who visited today.
Really enjoyed the session and also make some new friends.
Cheer!
Bro
Thanks for your kind words.
That's the main thing, make friends, have a cuppa and share info.
Next week on the 21st, I might be free during the afternoon in case anyone needs to ask me some questions or something..
Title: Re: Demo, share and fellowship at my place
Post by: kardtoon on August 12, 2019, 21:50
Thanks for the hospitality today. Your house came together very nicely! You might want to consider a few more nice Koi's.  :)

Nice imaging on your HT system. Much better than mine  :)
Title: Re: Demo, share and fellowship at my place
Post by: petetherock on August 12, 2019, 22:38
Thanks bro


Another disc to try:
Tron Legacy
The Games chapter
There’s a voice explaining the purpose of the disc - see where the voice comes from
Then hear the four ladies walk back into their cocoon. Don’t just look out for the big sounds...
:)
Title: Re: Demo, share and fellowship at my place
Post by: petetherock on August 23, 2019, 11:49
If anyone wants to come
I’m free this Saturday - tomorrow from 10-1 pm
Pm me. Cheers