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Title: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: Doggie Howser on September 10, 2018, 18:59
Arriving tomorrow. Less than $600 here.

Can’t wait.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: YANG on September 10, 2018, 19:17
???
I keep asking Mustafa ppl... they say they never receive any news wor...
Less than $600!!! MAI TU LIAOZ!!!
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: Doggie Howser on September 11, 2018, 14:00
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180911/116dcc2f96acea8a8174c707a0e96263.jpg)

It’s here!!
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: YANG on September 11, 2018, 15:17
WahLauEhh... Brudder DH sibeh potong steam!!! This model Australia/NZ model... :(
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: Doggie Howser on September 11, 2018, 16:00
Can claim GST back some more
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: Audio on September 11, 2018, 16:28
It wouldn't do any better than the Oppo 205....tsk tsk.

(Audio)
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: FookLai on September 11, 2018, 16:58
Still using a non HDR projector, how is this player fare in HDR to SDR mapping?
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: dsj88 on September 11, 2018, 17:34
Hi DH. Where in Oz did you get this from? You bought with an ABN? How does this compare with the 900 which I have.  I also have the Sony X800 but Sony no fight when I did AB.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: DJQ on September 11, 2018, 17:36
It wouldn't do any better than the Oppo 205....tsk tsk.

(Audio)
haha eventually someone will do better than 205....
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: Doggie Howser on September 11, 2018, 19:41
There are reports the new processing on the 820 is better than the Oppo.

First impressions are good.

I just watched a few critical scenes from Black Panther UHD and there seems less of that black crush. The video settings allow you to set the display to a low luminance TV or projector and that seems to be the reason for the difference.

And yes it is better than the Oppo. Picture appears sharper too.

Compared to the the 900, it does
A. Dolby Vision
B. HDR10+
C. Better tone mapping
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: Vinylfan on September 11, 2018, 19:45
There are reports the new processing on the 820 is better than the Oppo.

First impressions are good.

I just watched a few critical scenes from Black Panther UHD and there seems less of that black crush. The video settings allow you to set the display to a low luminance TV or projector and that seems to be the reason for the difference.

And yes it is better than the Oppo. Picture appears sharper too.

Compared to the the 900, it does
A. Dolby Vision
B. HDR10+
C. Better tone mapping

Sounds very promising.


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Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: sevenz on September 11, 2018, 20:45
There are reports the new processing on the 820 is better than the Oppo.

First impressions are good.

I just watched a few critical scenes from Black Panther UHD and there seems less of that black crush. The video settings allow you to set the display to a low luminance TV or projector and that seems to be the reason for the difference.

And yes it is better than the Oppo. Picture appears sharper too.

Compared to the the 900, it does
A. Dolby Vision
B. HDR10+
C. Better tone mapping

Sounds like a potential replacement for our OPPOs in time to come.

Thanks DH for this! :)
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: YANG on September 11, 2018, 22:32
A "budget entry model" that gives a punch to Oppo on the chin!!!
If this can do so good... We betul betul cannot imagine when UB9000 gets launched!
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: desray on September 11, 2018, 22:41
There are reports the new processing on the 820 is better than the Oppo.

First impressions are good.

I just watched a few critical scenes from Black Panther UHD and there seems less of that black crush. The video settings allow you to set the display to a low luminance TV or projector and that seems to be the reason for the difference.

And yes it is better than the Oppo. Picture appears sharper too.

Compared to the the 900, it does
A. Dolby Vision
B. HDR10+
C. Better tone mapping


This is always a welcome sight!
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: DJQ on September 11, 2018, 23:00
That's good news. Heheh.  ;D
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: Doggie Howser on September 12, 2018, 00:14
From AVS

Quote from: jbrinegar;56790622
Here are my settings that I like to use:

UB820:  SDR2020, HDR optimizer on, slider to +2

885:  Laser at 80, D65, Gamma 2.4, BT2020,  tune brighness and contrast with masciola disc (For me with masciola i get brightness on 50, contrast on max)

Youll get nice bright images. The HDR optimizer on in the SDR2020 setting will tone map according to each disc metadata.  I think it works great.  Much better details in dark scenes, and no clipping in the extra bright scenes (I can finally see the minister of magics face in harry potter goblet of fire quidditch scene).   I just wish it had an HDMI input like oppo.




Will try it out tomorrow.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: denon2311 on September 12, 2018, 08:30
What is the DAC used? Is there any App will work with the player



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Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: Doggie Howser on September 12, 2018, 08:34
I use it only as a Transport. It’s not going to replace my other audio transports.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: Doggie Howser on September 12, 2018, 17:45
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180912/adb348e63c78676ce1c0419deae53f25.jpg)
Almost the same dimensions.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180912/e16f03b8a611a92022c416db13342a43.jpg)

Rear missing dedicated stereo out and coax out.

New firmware is out already. Wasn’t there yesterday.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: Doggie Howser on September 12, 2018, 18:07
Holee crap

Just hooked the 820 to my ZD9, enabled Dolby Vision and set display to high luminance display.

Then plonked in Black Panther. So much shadow detail. I swear a lot of it was missing in the 900 before.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: desray on September 12, 2018, 20:17
Holee crap

Just hooked the 820 to my ZD9, enabled Dolby Vision and set display to high luminance display.

Then plonked in Black Panther. So much shadow detail. I swear a lot of it was missing in the 900 before.

Nice!
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: Doggie Howser on September 14, 2018, 19:25
Tonight I decided to take the Oppo 203 out of the projector set up and replaced it with the 820.

And I used this setting

“Here are my settings that I like to use:

UB820: SDR2020, HDR optimizer on, slider to +2

885: Laser at 80, D65, Gamma 2.4, BT2020, tune brighness and contrast with masciola disc (For me with masciola i get brightness on 50, contrast on max)

Youll get nice bright images. The HDR optimizer on in the SDR2020 setting will tone map according to each disc metadata. I think it works great. Much better details in dark scenes, and no clipping in the extra bright scenes (I can finally see the minister of magics face in harry potter goblet of fire quidditch scene). I just wish it had an HDMI input like oppo.”

DAMN. After marveling at how good Black Panther looked on the ZD9 with Dolby Vision I had despaired at getting this title to work with projectors.

But with this new setting the terribly washed out scenes with the 760ES previously now look actually watchable.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: YANG on September 16, 2018, 06:18
Haizzz... Can see cannot buy...
https://www.videopro.com.au/p-11950-panasonic-dpub820gnk-ultra-hd-blu-ray-player.aspx

In few days time going to Melbourne liaoz... but Melbourne JBHiFi only carries UB420 nia...
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: Doggie Howser on September 16, 2018, 07:36
binglee might have a few
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: eggz on September 21, 2018, 14:21
Holee crap

Just hooked the 820 to my ZD9, enabled Dolby Vision and set display to high luminance display.

Then plonked in Black Panther. So much shadow detail. I swear a lot of it was missing in the 900 before.

So this player supports the low latency DV profile that the Z9D requires? Sooooo tempting!
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: dsj88 on September 24, 2018, 17:51
If anyone in QLD or can arrange shipping here. $478 using PHOME20 code.

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Panasonic-DPUB820GNK-Ultra-HD-Blu-Ray-Player/323463906161
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: Vinylfan on September 24, 2018, 18:21
Is it available in SG yet?


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Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: YANG on November 12, 2018, 12:06
I think for UB-820... we may have to order from elsewhere liaoz...
https://www.conrad.com/ce/en/product/1694516/UHD-Blu-ray-player-Panasonic-DP-UB824-4K-upscaling-Wi-Fi-Smart-TV-Amazon-Alexa-support-Google-Assistant-support-Blac?ref=list#emptylink
...locked to region 2 on DVD playback...
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: FookLai on November 14, 2018, 21:27
My pioneer bd 350 LCD screen just died. Going to need a uhd player which occasionally playing some Blu-ray gotten from JB. Anyone know if ub820 suffer from cineavia issue?

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Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: YANG on November 15, 2018, 13:25
Depending on where u brought from... It's locked to the specific region it is sold.
BluRay region hack can be possible every time u put a disc in and execute a small pause in process. DVD wise... So far... There wasn't any mention.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: YANG on November 15, 2018, 19:21
Lagi budget friendly compare to CONRAD
https://www.sotel.de/index.php?cl=details&cnid=1483&anid=1000517036&listtype=list&&lang=1
with euro tax 420!!!

Ships to SG!
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: YANG on November 16, 2018, 10:27
Take advantage of the low X-rates as much as possible. When u r going to Perth for holiday...
https://www.westcoasthifi.com.au/product/panasonic-dp-ub820-ultra-hd-blu-ray-player/
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: FookLai on November 25, 2018, 20:48
Anyone gotten any better deal for black Friday or cyber Monday for this player?

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Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: FookLai on November 25, 2018, 20:52
Take advantage of the low X-rates as much as possible. When u r going to Perth for holiday...
https://www.westcoasthifi.com.au/product/panasonic-dp-ub820-ultra-hd-blu-ray-player/
Anyway to ship this back from Australia to Singapore?

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Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: YANG on November 25, 2018, 22:27
Hand carry lo... Most of the Australian etailers I see... Don't do export. Except JBHiFi. But they to date, don't carry UB820.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: Doggie Howser on November 26, 2018, 09:37
I believe 820/9000 are specialists only. But you can get the 420 and lower models in JB and Harvey.

Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: YANG on November 30, 2018, 11:03
Arriving tomorrow. Less than $600 here.

Can’t wait.
I think buy from Australia is more economical than ordering from Germany liaoz... I tried to place an order from SOTEL.de above... thru PAYPAL after conversion it's close to $700!!! At least Australian price @ $600 can get additional tax claim some more!
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: Vinylfan on November 30, 2018, 21:43
I think buy from Australia is more economical than ordering from Germany liaoz... I tried to place an order from SOTEL.de above... thru PAYPAL after conversion it's close to $700!!! At least Australian price @ $600 can get additional tax claim some more!
Aussies used to come here to buy electronics at Sim Lim square. Now we have to buy from them.


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Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: YANG on December 12, 2018, 11:46
UB820 hv this mosquito noise reduction!
(https://www.valueelectronics.com/images/albums/NewAlbum_4039b/tn_480_b54433968f024e67ce2d78f1a39647da.jpg.png)
https://www.valueelectronics.com/Panasonic_UB820.php

What's this mosquito noise reduction?
(https://www.pcmag.com/encyclopedia_images/_MSQNOIS.JPG)
The arrow part.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: ncw on January 16, 2019, 07:13
Anybody using Panasonic ub820 from US?Is it multi voltage?
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: Jose on January 16, 2019, 09:16
I'm interested in the player too. Where are you getting it?
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: Doggie Howser on January 16, 2019, 12:06
Why US?

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/panasonic-dp-ub820-streaming-4k-ultra-hd-hi-res-audio-wi-fi-built-in-blu-ray-player-black/6278202.p?skuId=6278202&intl=nosplash

US$499

https://www.westcoasthifi.com.au/product/panasonic-dp-ub820-ultra-hd-blu-ray-player/
A$549
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: YANG on January 16, 2019, 12:13
It seems logical to buy U.S sets as most of our regular HDBD releases are same region as U.S mah... since no one cares about DVD compatibility anymore.

WestCost HiFi... international shipping doesn't seems to be available. Plus, it's locked to B zone for HDBD.
https://www.westcoasthifi.com.au/shipping-returns-policy/
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: YANG on January 16, 2019, 12:16
Panasonic SG hv Home-Entertainment section rebooted liaoz... now waiting for MAGIC to happen!!!
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: desray on January 16, 2019, 20:28
When is this player coming to Singapore? I'm going to test it with my new upcoming projector, the JVC N7.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: Doggie Howser on January 16, 2019, 23:07
A. A lot of recent movies on FHD BDs are region free

B. Who watches BD when got UHD and can get cheap player for region free
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: Doggie Howser on January 17, 2019, 08:28
Buy UHD player to play FHD facepalm
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: YANG on January 17, 2019, 08:37
Buy UHD player to play FHD facepalm
for me is using separate FHD player to play regular BDs lah... UHD is like modern "mini laserdisc" where no region coding is a major concern.

However, different individuals hv different "ideological" setups. Some goes separate gears for different purpose, some looks for minimalistic setups.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: Doggie Howser on January 17, 2019, 09:04
Everything I play these days are UHD discs.

Or streaming.

FWIW I had a region B locked Oppo 203 before and playing a number of Region A discs I imported from Amazon and they all played fine. I think most companies relaxed the region coding towards the end.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: kikoman on January 17, 2019, 10:34
Same here DH. I fully agreed on your last few posts. After going into UHD, I never turn back to FHD.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: matix on January 24, 2019, 11:31
for me is using separate FHD player to play regular BDs lah... UHD is like modern "mini laserdisc" where no region coding is a major concern.

However, different individuals hv different "ideological" setups. Some goes separate gears for different purpose, some looks for minimalistic setups.

Same here.  I have many FHD musicals and concerts which I won't double dip to get UHD.  Has anyone got a set from US? 
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: desray on January 24, 2019, 22:42
Same here.  I have many FHD musicals and concerts which I won't double dip to get UHD.  Has anyone got a set from US? 

I'm on the verge of placing an order from US. At this moment, Panasonic Singapore has not announcement on the UB-820 availability.
 
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: Vinylfan on January 26, 2019, 20:42
How does this compare with Panasonic 9000?


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Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: desray on February 10, 2019, 16:13
Bro Doggie, any "more" comments you like to make after using the UB820? especially the HDR Optimizer feature. Good, great?
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: desray on March 28, 2019, 18:23
New firmware available. Finally hitting the Info panel button twice can bring up the metadata details on the media disc itself (previously only available in UB-9000)

https://av.jpn.support.panasonic.com/support/global/cs/bd/download/ub420/ub420_us.html



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Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: Doggie Howser on March 28, 2019, 18:51
Bro Doggie, any "more" comments you like to make after using the UB820? especially the HDR Optimizer feature. Good, great?

I’ve been using it at work with a Benq W1700. Gonna test it with the W2700 and W5700 next.

Definitely a lot of pop with the Benq W1700
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: desray on March 28, 2019, 19:38
I’ve been using it at work with a Benq W1700. Gonna test it with the W2700 and W5700 next.

Definitely a lot of pop with the Benq W1700

Thanks for sharing. Never use it in your SONY VW760ES?


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Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: Doggie Howser on March 28, 2019, 19:52
The main issue is that when I watch Netflix or Amazon Prime on the AppleTV, can’t use the HDR Optimizer. Maybe I’ll try the Panasonic app. But they were pretty dismal before.

I have been watching more of Amazon and Netflix.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: desray on March 28, 2019, 20:01
The main issue is that when I watch Netflix or Amazon Prime on the AppleTV, can’t use the HDR Optimizer. Maybe I’ll try the Panasonic app. But they were pretty dismal before.

I have been watching more of Amazon and Netflix.

Yes, both Youtube and the Netflix app will utilize the HDR Optimiser but I agreed with you that the built in apps is pretty dismal. I probably won't use it as well. LoL...Panasonic is like Pioneer, they don't really care about their user interface and their apps. If that is the case, they should be like Oppo - stick to what it does best - video and music...nothing else.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: Doggie Howser on March 28, 2019, 20:33
Is the Dolby Vision big still present on the built in apps?
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: desray on March 28, 2019, 20:44
Is the Dolby Vision big still present on the built in apps?

My UB-420 doesn’t have DV. So I dunno.


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Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: YANG on April 05, 2019, 13:16
For those whom are going to Canada for trip, and wanna bring back a "souvenir"...
https://baybloorradio.com/tv/blu-ray-players/panasonic-dp-ub820-ultra-hd-blu-ray-player?sort=p.price&order=DESC
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: YANG on April 14, 2019, 13:00
while Australian E-tailers are concerned abt shipping overseas, the Germans are more willing to sell overseas.

From Conrad, €432.50+€42(shipping)
https://www.conrad.com/p/uhd-blu-ray-player-panasonic-dp-ub824-4k-upscaling-wi-fi-smart-tv-amazon-alexa-support-google-assistant-support-blac-1694516

From Sotel, €414+€45(shipping)
https://www.sotel.de/en/TV-Heimkino/DVD-Blu-ray-Player-Recorder/BluRay-Player/Panasonic-DP-UB824EGK-Blu-Ray-player-Black.html
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: petetherock on April 14, 2019, 13:17
while Australian E-tailers are concerned abt shipping overseas, the Germans are more willing to sell overseas.

From Conrad, €432.50+€42(shipping)
https://www.conrad.com/p/uhd-blu-ray-player-panasonic-dp-ub824-4k-upscaling-wi-fi-smart-tv-amazon-alexa-support-google-assistant-support-blac-1694516

From Sotel, €414+€45(shipping)
https://www.sotel.de/en/TV-Heimkino/DVD-Blu-ray-Player-Recorder/BluRay-Player/Panasonic-DP-UB824EGK-Blu-Ray-player-Black.html
$$$
I offered to carry the 820 back for you from Oz last month..
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: YANG on April 14, 2019, 13:35
Hee... Thx.
Still waiting to get my cables for the discrete channels to be ready. As well as searching for ways to make the device to be multicode for DVD play...
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: YANG on April 14, 2019, 17:08
http://www.youtube.com/v/GaCX8SaFPtk&fs=1
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: YANG on April 24, 2019, 11:59
Buy from German E-tailers, DVD not multi-region hacked.

Buy from Brits...
UB820
https://www.ebay.com.sg/itm/Panasonic-DP-UB820-DVD-MultiRegion-4K-UHD-Player-with-Sicario-2-Soldado/292843131944?hash=item442ecf9428:g:~~IAAOSwTxhcAp33
...@ $25 extra($725 ttl inclusive of shipping), not only you get region unlocked set, also a free UHD disk!

UB9000
https://www.ebay.com.sg/itm/Panasonic-DP-UB9000-DVD-MultiRegion-4K-UHD-Player-with-Sicario-2-Soldado/113415178738?hash=item1a681249f2:g:YjYAAOSwxPNcArvH
...@ $1660 ttl inclusive of shipping, you get free disk also with DVD multi-region hacked!
SOTEL Germany sells $1736 with shipping inclusive... not region hacked.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: YANG on April 24, 2019, 12:11
For those going to Queensland for holiday trip, and wanna bring back a "souvenior"...
UB820
https://www.videopro.com.au/p-11950-panasonic-dpub820gnk-ultra-hd-blu-ray-player.aspx
UB9000
https://www.videopro.com.au/p-12100-panasonic-dpub9000gnk-uhd-blu-ray-player.aspx
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: dsj88 on April 24, 2019, 13:49
If you buy from their eBay site you get 20% off. Use code PCLICK
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: YANG on April 24, 2019, 13:55
(https://i.ebayimg.com/thumbs/images/g/GiwAAOSwC8Zcv6cb/s-l1200.jpg)
Although they have a page... but no listings of products for sale ley...
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: dsj88 on April 24, 2019, 15:59
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Panasonic-DPUB820GNK-Ultra-HD-Blu-Ray-Player/323463906161?hash=item4b4ff38371:g:0oIAAOSwOkxbqEoE
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: sevenz on April 24, 2019, 16:46
Buy from Brits...
UB820
https://www.ebay.com.sg/itm/Panasonic-DP-UB820-DVD-MultiRegion-4K-UHD-Player-with-Sicario-2-Soldado/292843131944?hash=item442ecf9428:g:~~IAAOSwTxhcAp33
...@ $25 extra($725 ttl inclusive of shipping), not only you get region unlocked set, also a free UHD disk!


Wah, thanks for this bro. Do u know if they ship to SG?
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: YANG on April 24, 2019, 17:10
According to their eBay page... when u click onto the shipping details, it will display according to your browser location the shipping quotes. That's why i did the calculation and comes out to total of SGD$725 after factoring the x-rates.

If u have the SCICARO2 UHD disk and u want other titles, click the "seller's other item" @ the right side of the page, they have other bundles available.
https://www.ebay.com.sg/sch/TV-Video-Home-Audio/32852/m.html?item=292843131944&hash=item442ecf9428%3Ag%3A%7E%7EIAAOSwTxhcAp33&LH_BIN=1&_ssn=tps1996&_sop=2

If you opt for the plain player only, cheaper, but note that the model is not region hacked for DVD play.
https://www.ebay.com.sg/itm/Panasonic-DP-UB820EBK-Native-4K-UHD-Player-1m-SlimHDMI-Premium-Certified-Cable/113319459902?hash=item1a625dbc3e:g:N2QAAOSwvv1byfNz
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: YANG on April 24, 2019, 17:28
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/fwsAAOSwR9pbKOtp/s-l1600.jpg)
Quote
Item specifics
Condition:    
New: A brand-new, unused, unopened, undamaged item in its original packaging (where packaging is ... Read more
about the condition
   Type:    Blu-ray Player
Manufacturer warranty:    1 year    Built-In Combo Features:    Internet/Media Streamer
Features:    4K, Built-in Wi-Fi, Ethernet Input, Upscaling, USB Input    Brand:    Panasonic
Custom Bundle:    Yes    Model:    DP-UB820
Playable Disc Formats:    Blu-ray, CD, DVD    MPN:    DP-UB820EB-K
Audio/Video Outputs:    Analog Audio, HDMI    Region Code:    DVD: 0/All
Colour:    Black    EAN:    0635341450827
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: jonlee on April 24, 2019, 19:48
Buy from German E-tailers, DVD not multi-region hacked.

Buy from Brits...
UB820
https://www.ebay.com.sg/itm/Panasonic-DP-UB820-DVD-MultiRegion-4K-UHD-Player-with-Sicario-2-Soldado/292843131944?hash=item442ecf9428:g:~~IAAOSwTxhcAp33
...@ $25 extra($725 ttl inclusive of shipping), not only you get region unlocked set, also a free UHD disk!

UB9000
https://www.ebay.com.sg/itm/Panasonic-DP-UB9000-DVD-MultiRegion-4K-UHD-Player-with-Sicario-2-Soldado/113415178738?hash=item1a681249f2:g:YjYAAOSwxPNcArvH
...@ $1660 ttl inclusive of shipping, you get free disk also with DVD multi-region hacked!
SOTEL Germany sells $1736 with shipping inclusive... not region hacked.

The multi code is only for DVD.  UK BD is different from US/HK/SG leh!
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: YANG on April 24, 2019, 20:07
aiyoh。。。U comparing major marques against small makers like OPPO n Laser Australia mehh。。。where one can jailbreak thru firmware update,n the latter comes by default n not uhd as well?
BD play hack can be achieved thru “stop,top menu” method. DVD wise only Philips/Funai players can be achievable。Samsung wise is hit or misses。LG only with non U'h'd models。
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: YANG on April 30, 2019, 15:32
Quote
From Mr. Zohn:

For projector owners the UB9000 will be a nice advantage in HDR performance vs. the UB820 as the UB9000 has two projector HDR Optimizer selections, 350Nit and 500Nit tone mapping.  The UB820 only has the 500Nit mode for projectors.

Other advantages of the UB9000 is the overall premium design and build quality as well as the better 2-channel analog DACs.

Here’s the list of UB9000 advantages over the UB820:

    Better 2-channel audio DACs and the balanced XLR audio ports and of course the premium build quality.
    The UB9000 has one extra projector HDR Optimizer mode, so you get “Projector Basic Luminance” that tone maps to 350Nits and the “Projector High Luminance” that maps HDR to 500Nits.  The UB820 only have the 500Nit Projector High Luminance mode.

    The UB9000 has a nice full sized backlit remote control with direct access buttons to select the HDR mode and other useful hard buttons.

    The UB9000 has a second very detailed information status screen that displays all of the technical information on how the disc was mastered.  The UB820 just has one basic information screen.

    The separated, shielded and dedicated circuits and power supplies for the audio and video circuits help to isolate signal noise from cross polluting the adjacent circuits.

    JVC put out a press release announcing the collaboration between JVC and Panasonic with two new firmware updates that add Custom 5 and 6 modes when JVC's 2019 NX5, NX7 or NX9 projectors are connected to the UB9000.  The new custom modes will extract all of the color gamut detail at every luminance level, all of the HDR tonal details while perfectly following the PQ EOTF curve.

Robert Zohn
https://www.hometheaterforum.com/community/threads/a-few-words-about-%E2%84%A2-hdr-and-the-new-panasonic-9000-in-4k-uhd-blu-ray.361799/
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: YANG on May 09, 2019, 15:27
Owners of UB820 be careful of the hiccups that HTF member faced on the latest 4K UHD release of Black Hawk Down!
https://www.hometheaterforum.com/community/threads/a-few-words-about-%E2%84%A2-black-hawk-down-in-4k-uhd-blu-ray.361914/
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: comfortablynumb on May 11, 2019, 14:46
JB Hifi selling UB820 now but no oversea shipping
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: YANG on May 11, 2019, 15:28
australian etailers mostly don't ship overseas
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: ncw on May 11, 2019, 16:24
You can buy from B&H Photo from US and 1 outlet.sg.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: otomato on May 17, 2019, 15:18
are there any chances if Mustaffa carry this player?
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: YANG on May 17, 2019, 15:25
Panasonic no bring in... no local stock supply.
Parallel... so far no sound in the market.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: YANG on May 24, 2019, 21:30
https://www.harveynorman.co.nz/tv-and-audio/audio/blu-ray-and-home-theatre/dvd-and-blu-ray-players/panasonic-4k-uhd-blu-ray-player-en-4.html

NZ's price
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: Chowbotak on June 10, 2019, 20:59
So can the Aussie and NZ 820s play non 4k bds? I aldy have 3 bd players, one to play region B, please don't ask me to buy this just to play 4k discs  :(
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: YANG on June 10, 2019, 22:07
U can skip this Aussie set if U wanna go local. LG,Samsung,Sony are locked under region A locally。
But if ur setup is projection based。。。Aussie/Europe/UK set with FHDBD play locked @ region B is the only way for U to experience DV optimizer。
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: YANG on June 11, 2019, 17:18
Finally found one German E-tailer that ships PANASONIC UB9000* @ competitive price that ships to SG, with German TAX removal...
http://hidden-audio.de/index.php/panasonic-dp-ub9004-uhd-blu-ray-player-4k-hdr.html
Total under SGD$1.4k shipped.
*Region locked @ FHDBD-B/DVD-2
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: Count on June 11, 2019, 17:56
In Australia now and thinking of picking up the 820. So no way around region lock for blu ray?
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: YANG on June 11, 2019, 18:13
FHDBD region lock is not easy to break. Australian retailers seems to be selling region B locked sets.
For Panasonic players, the only way is to go by "hack per play" method with "Stop, Top Menu" hack as previously mentioned.

Apollo HiFi in Sydney hv DVD region free set... but not UB820 & FHDBD region free as well...
https://www.apollohifi.com.au/visual/blu-ray-players-recorders/panasonic-dp-ub9000.html
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: YANG on June 11, 2019, 20:12
Across the English channel,Brit E-tailer sells the UB9000 at the roughly same price as the German with roughly $25 difference,with the addition of multi-region capability for DVD play.
https://www.audiocomav.co.uk/4k-uhd-blu-ray-players/631-panasonic-dp-ub9000ebk.html
Total around SGD$1.41k(+/-$25 depending on x-rates)  shipped.
*Region locked @ FHDBD-B/DVD-all
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: Chowbotak on June 11, 2019, 20:43
Finally found one German E-tailer that ships PANASONIC UB9000* @ competitive price that ships to SG, with German TAX removal...
http://hidden-audio.de/index.php/panasonic-dp-ub9004-uhd-blu-ray-player-4k-hdr.html
Total under SGD$1.4k shipped.
*Region locked @ FHDBD-B/DVD-2

Wow good price! If only it's region A!
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: YANG on June 11, 2019, 20:51
if U want multi region on FHDBD,go to the Brit‘s etailer which i linked to their Pioneer LX500 offering. However,i couldn't guarantee on their hacking stability as it's known that any updates will factory reset the machine to it's original specified zone。
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: Chowbotak on June 11, 2019, 21:40
Yup I saw your post there bro. Hmm tat means if I buy I shouldn't do any updates?
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: YANG on June 11, 2019, 22:34
best to read other forum owners‘ response about the updatesla... today‘s new generation chipsets seems to be the culprit。
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: YANG on June 13, 2019, 02:53
Whoever now @ Melbourne, this HiFi shop is having offer on these 2 models
UB820 @ AUD$527
https://klappav.com.au/collections/specials/products/dp-ub820-ultra-hd-blu-ray-player
UB9000 @ AUD$1449
https://klappav.com.au/collections/specials/products/panasonic-dmp-ub9000-4kcoming-december

both models region locked @ FHDBD-B/ DVD-2
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: Count on June 14, 2019, 17:21
Whoever now @ Melbourne, this HiFi shop is having offer on these 2 models
UB820 @ AUD$527
https://klappav.com.au/collections/specials/products/dp-ub820-ultra-hd-blu-ray-player
UB9000 @ AUD$1449
https://klappav.com.au/collections/specials/products/panasonic-dmp-ub9000-4kcoming-december

both models region locked @ FHDBD-B/ DVD-2

Thanks for the heads up!
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: YANG on June 14, 2019, 18:36
Whoever now @ in UK, these HiFi shop is having offer on these 2 models
UB820 @ GBP289(priced VAT inclusive, not available for export)
https://www.hughes.co.uk/product/tv-and-entertainment/dvd-blu-ray-and-homecinema/blu-ray-players/panasonic/dpub820ebk?c=850

UB820 @ GBP295(priced VAT inclusive, available for export-read below)
https://www.tps.uk.com/?tab_name=Panasonic&tab_id=52&choice_name=4K_Ultra_HD&choice_id=238&product_group_id=295&product_name=Panasonic_DP-UB820_4K_Ultra_HD_Blu-ray_Player_-_DP-UB820EBK&product_id=4230&choice_type=1

both models region locked @ FHDBD-B/ DVD-2*
TPS UK(eBay seller) offers DVD-play region hacked sets @ GBP349 with chargeable courier price to SG, lower than eBay charge estimates.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: sas_aaron on June 18, 2019, 13:36
hi i plan to import from USA or UK.

is there international warranty and how long?

what happens if the player got problem? will Panasonic Singapore entertain?
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: YANG on June 18, 2019, 14:14
Typically most of the consumer electronics do not carry international warranty unless the selling country agent provides such warranty with limitation.
For example, Philips Singapore selling TVs with International warranty that thru Mustafa, is viable for warranty claim in India.

In another thread, other bros shared that Pioneer players bought from overseas can be serviced in SG Pioneer, but with some nominal charges. So... it's best if u can check with Panasonic SG on such serviceability.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: Cubacuba on June 19, 2019, 00:18
https://youtu.be/RvJc6vwCcM8

https://youtu.be/ZZC1-B-kh1o
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: Count on June 22, 2019, 09:07
Grabbed a player in Melbourne. Got tax refund somemore. Can't wait to set it up with the JVC NX7 for 4K/HDR playback.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: YANG on June 22, 2019, 13:59
from Sydney?Melbourne?
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: Count on June 22, 2019, 17:08
from Sydney?Melbourne?

Melbourne.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: desray on July 26, 2019, 20:07
New firmware ver 1.60 avail.

https://av.jpn.support.panasonic.com/support/global/cs/bd/download/ub420/ub420_euro.html




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Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: jeffong on August 10, 2019, 16:08
Quite tempted to order one from Amazon US for US$499.  Anyone done it yet?
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: ncw on August 10, 2019, 16:30
Amazon previously was sell only US449.99,if you want to buy,better wait for the price to drop again.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: jeffong on August 10, 2019, 17:45
Thanks bro.. will watch out for it
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: ncw on August 18, 2019, 15:47
Thanks bro.. will watch out for it
Amazon price drop to 449.95 today.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: wcseow on August 18, 2019, 23:19
Amazon price drop to 449.95 today.

Maybe buy from Aus better?
With the low exchange rate
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: Doggie Howser on August 19, 2019, 06:16
What I’ve been saying all along.

Who cares about region free BD playback anymore.

I have old Oppos for that. Plus a lot of my region A discs play on the Aus Panny too.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: StephenBishop on August 19, 2019, 12:55
What I’ve been saying all along.

Who cares about region free BD playback anymore.

I have old Oppos for that. Plus a lot of my region A discs play on the Aus Panny too.

Any Melbourne store you would recommend which stocks the UB820? I am visiting Melbourne this week and hoping to pick one up.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: WIM on August 19, 2019, 13:14
Following JB hfi around Melb has ex stock

NORTHLAND
TENANCY K-23, NORTHLAND SHOPPING CENTRE, 2-50 MURRAY ROAD, PRESTON, 3072 VIC


In stock

AIRPORT WEST
TENANCY MM1, 29-35 LOUIS STREET, AIRPORT WEST, 3042 VIC


In stock

FOREST HILL
TENANCY T226, FOREST HILL CHASE, 270 CANTERBURY ROAD, FOREST HILL, 3131 VIC


In stock

NUNAWADING
SHOP 8 & 9 HOME HQ, 372-394 WHITEHORSE ROAD, NUNAWADING, 3131 VIC

In stock
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: StephenBishop on August 19, 2019, 13:56
Following JB hfi around Melb has ex stock

NORTHLAND
TENANCY K-23, NORTHLAND SHOPPING CENTRE, 2-50 MURRAY ROAD, PRESTON, 3072 VIC


In stock

AIRPORT WEST
TENANCY MM1, 29-35 LOUIS STREET, AIRPORT WEST, 3042 VIC


In stock

FOREST HILL
TENANCY T226, FOREST HILL CHASE, 270 CANTERBURY ROAD, FOREST HILL, 3131 VIC


In stock

NUNAWADING
SHOP 8 & 9 HOME HQ, 372-394 WHITEHORSE ROAD, NUNAWADING, 3131 VIC

In stock


Many thanks, WIM.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: Doggie Howser on August 19, 2019, 14:45
Any Melbourne store you would recommend which stocks the UB820? I am visiting Melbourne this week and hoping to pick one up.

Try JBHifi but ask them to price match
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: StephenBishop on August 19, 2019, 18:05
Will do. Thanks DH.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: Count on August 20, 2019, 13:24
I got my from one of the JB Hifi outlets around Melbourne. Easy pick up and plays UHD discs flawlessly. I just use my Oppo for any Blu rays or discs that won’t play on the Panasonic.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: YANG on August 22, 2019, 18:46
Melbourne, besides JBHiFi...
The other HiFi retail i found thru googling are...

APPOLLO HiFi
https://www.apollohifi.com.au/visual/blu-ray-players-recorders/panasonic-dp-ub820.html
@ 283 Victoria Road, Marrickville NSW 2204

KLAPPAV
https://klappav.com.au/collections/specials/products/dp-ub820-ultra-hd-blu-ray-player
@ 72-74 Chapel Street Windsor VIC 3181
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: YANG on August 22, 2019, 18:56
Finally found one German E-tailer that ships PANASONIC UB9000* @ competitive price that ships to SG, with German TAX removal...
http://hidden-audio.de/index.php/panasonic-dp-ub9004-uhd-blu-ray-player-4k-hdr.html
Total under SGD$1.4k shipped.
*Region locked @ FHDBD-B/DVD-2
Price dropped!
With shipping to SG, now under SGD$1.35k! Or... SGD$1.3k~ish if EURO continues to drop...
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: wcseow on August 22, 2019, 22:28
Is it easy to hand carry 820 back from Aus?..I guess not advisable to check it in?

Thanks
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: Count on August 22, 2019, 23:09
Hand carry. Better not check in.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: wcseow on August 22, 2019, 23:20

Hand carry. Better not check in.
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Hand carry. Better not check in.

Ok
Thanks for the tip
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: YANG on August 23, 2019, 09:19
latest review by latest YouTuber who hooted the UB820
http://www.youtube.com/v/ixiVqBQhD84&fs=1
this fella also shares on the settings!
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: YANG on August 23, 2019, 09:22
UB820 compared with the PANASONIC UHD family's latest addition...
http://www.youtube.com/v/fI_lNsjbxJM&fs=1
...UB450
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: Doggie Howser on August 23, 2019, 12:57
So UB450 gains Dolby Vision over the UB420 but loses HDR Optimizer?
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: StephenBishop on August 24, 2019, 10:15
Try JBHifi but ask them to price match
Thanks for the tip. JB had a piece in stock at their Elizabeth Street store (500 metres from where I am staying) and price matched at AUD548. Happy camper!
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: InnocentBlood on August 24, 2019, 21:30
I got my from one of the JB Hifi outlets around Melbourne. Easy pick up and plays UHD discs flawlessly. I just use my Oppo for any Blu rays or discs that won’t play on the Panasonic.

How do you find the PQ when you are using the Panasonic with your JVC N7 with the exclusive color profiles, when compared to using your Oppo with your JVC?

Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: wcseow on August 26, 2019, 09:43
So UB450 gains Dolby Vision over the UB420 but loses HDR Optimizer?

Lol...headache..haha. Dolby Vision or HDR optimiser?

Checking eBay,  seems like 450 is priced similar to 820. 420 can be bought S$300+ from bestbuy Au on eBay.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: YANG on August 26, 2019, 09:48
So UB450 gains Dolby Vision over the UB420 but loses HDR Optimizer?
Ehh... maybe to Jippun logic, small UB450 for small HT setup, while the bigger build UB820 or UB9k for bigger HT setup which utilize PJ?
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: desray on August 26, 2019, 11:21
Lol...headache..haha. Dolby Vision or HDR optimiser?

Checking eBay,  seems like 450 is priced similar to 820. 420 can be bought S$300+ from bestbuy Au on eBay.

Imo HDR Optimiser has a greater effect over DV.



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Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: YANG on August 26, 2019, 11:36
Lol...headache..haha. Dolby Vision or HDR optimiser?

Checking eBay,  seems like 450 is priced similar to 820. 420 can be bought S$300+ from bestbuy Au on eBay.
If what u saw is this...
https://www.ebay.com.sg/itm/Panasonic-DP-UB450EB-K-Full-MultiRegion-Code-Free-Native-4K-UHD-Blu-ray-Player/113728747095?hash=item1a7ac2f657:g:Qj4AAOSwohVcwc0l

Go straight to the seller's site for slightly better savings on shipping
https://www.tps.uk.com/?tab_name=MULTIREGION&tab_id=64&choice_name=Panasonic%20Blu-ray&choice_id=4&product_group_id=221&product_name=Panasonic_DP-UB450EB-K_MULTIREGION_4K_Ultra_HD_Blu-ray_Player_-_DP-UB450EB-K&product_id=4633&choice_type=1
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: wcseow on August 26, 2019, 11:38
Thanks

Guess will decide on the spot when I am in Sydney later. JBhifi selling 420 at A$280.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: wcseow on August 26, 2019, 12:09
If what u saw is this...
https://www.ebay.com.sg/itm/Panasonic-DP-UB450EB-K-Full-MultiRegion-Code-Free-Native-4K-UHD-Blu-ray-Player/113728747095?hash=item1a7ac2f657:g:Qj4AAOSwohVcwc0l

Go straight to the seller's site for slightly better savings on shipping
https://www.tps.uk.com/?tab_name=MULTIREGION&tab_id=64&choice_name=Panasonic%20Blu-ray&choice_id=4&product_group_id=221&product_name=Panasonic_DP-UB450EB-K_MULTIREGION_4K_Ultra_HD_Blu-ray_Player_-_DP-UB450EB-K&product_id=4633&choice_type=1

Hi. Thanks for the lead.
Website check out page does not appeared on my mobile browser, thus cannot check shipping rate.

Guess will check later with a computer
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: StephenBishop on August 30, 2019, 21:13
If you are buying from Australia and want to reclaim Australian GST, you must hand carry the unit (cannot check it in). Luckily I did and was able to reclaim the Australian GST. No Singapore GST on purchases below SGD 500.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: Count on September 03, 2019, 17:27
How do you find the PQ when you are using the Panasonic with your JVC N7 with the exclusive color profiles, when compared to using your Oppo with your JVC?



Hi sorry for the late reply - my new screen only just installed and was busy moving house, so only recently had a chance to play around with the settings and such.

Basically, for UHD playback through the Panasonic, I have not experimented using the custom curves. I set my Panasonic to tone map to projector (500 nits) and then have the JVC tone map from there - ie double tone-mapping. It works very well, and HDR Optimiser allows you to adjust the slider to your preference. Very useful for Marvel UHDs that have inaccurate or missing metadata.

Compared to the Oppo, the Panasonic is the winner for HDR playback. While some scenes are comparable (no difference to my eyes), I see a slight improvement with the Panasonic which is better at handling the specular highlights. Also, the HDR Optimiser on the Panasonic makes it much easier to adjust the tone-mapping if you find it too dark/light. Much more difficult to tweak with the Oppo.

I still need to experiment more with the Panasonic, by using the custom curves and also outputting SDR/BT2020 directly to the JVC. But it looks so good right now and I am so busy, I am quite content to leave it as it is for now.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: FookLai on September 04, 2019, 08:34
Hi sorry for the late reply - my new screen only just installed and was busy moving house, so only recently had a chance to play around with the settings and such.

Basically, for UHD playback through the Panasonic, I have not experimented using the custom curves. I set my Panasonic to tone map to projector (500 nits) and then have the JVC tone map from there - ie double tone-mapping. It works very well, and HDR Optimiser allows you to adjust the slider to your preference. Very useful for Marvel UHDs that have inaccurate or missing metadata.

Compared to the Oppo, the Panasonic is the winner for HDR playback. While some scenes are comparable (no difference to my eyes), I see a slight improvement with the Panasonic which is better at handling the specular highlights. Also, the HDR Optimiser on the Panasonic makes it much easier to adjust the tone-mapping if you find it too dark/light. Much more difficult to tweak with the Oppo.

I still need to experiment more with the Panasonic, by using the custom curves and also outputting SDR/BT2020 directly to the JVC. But it looks so good right now and I am so busy, I am quite content to leave it as it is for now.

So are you outputting HDR/BT2020 or SDR/BT2020 now?
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: Count on September 04, 2019, 13:12
So are you outputting HDR/BT2020 or SDR/BT2020 now?

HDR/BT2020 at 500nits (Basic Luminance Projector setting). This way, the JVC will also do its own tone-mapping.

I have heard that outputting at SDR/BT2020 also works very well. In this scenario, the Panasonic does all the tone mapping since the projector treats it as SDR content.

I also realised that the problem with using the custom curves on the Panasonic and JVC is that with the UB820, the colour filter is not engaged. In order to engage the colour filter, you will have to either forgo the curves and use double tone-mapping or output SDR/BT2020, or get a UB9000 where there is an option for 350 nits in HDR Optimizer.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: tsammyc on September 04, 2019, 13:51
DH, any idea how much the postage would be from Oz to Singapore. I have a relative who can post the UB820 to me. It's 2.4kg apparently.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: FookLai on September 04, 2019, 15:00
HDR/BT2020 at 500nits (Basic Luminance Projector setting). This way, the JVC will also do its own tone-mapping.

I have heard that outputting at SDR/BT2020 also works very well. In this scenario, the Panasonic does all the tone mapping since the projector treats it as SDR content.

I also realised that the problem with using the custom curves on the Panasonic and JVC is that with the UB820, the colour filter is not engaged. In order to engage the colour filter, you will have to either forgo the curves and use double tone-mapping or output SDR/BT2020, or get a UB9000 where there is an option for 350 nits in HDR Optimizer.

I thought 820 will limit 500 nits only when we select SDR/BT2020, looks like my original understanding was wrong. I am using the setting with 350 nits now but wasnt sure whether the 820 does the limit or not since I am choosing HDR/BT2020.

If I dont choose HDR/BT2020 then it seems like my Benq 2700 wont do tone mapping and also couldnt engage on wide color filter. As I really like the picture with wide color filter on thus I leave the 820 output at HDR/BT2020.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: InnocentBlood on September 04, 2019, 16:10
Hi sorry for the late reply - my new screen only just installed and was busy moving house, so only recently had a chance to play around with the settings and such.

Basically, for UHD playback through the Panasonic, I have not experimented using the custom curves. I set my Panasonic to tone map to projector (500 nits) and then have the JVC tone map from there - ie double tone-mapping. It works very well, and HDR Optimiser allows you to adjust the slider to your preference. Very useful for Marvel UHDs that have inaccurate or missing metadata.

Compared to the Oppo, the Panasonic is the winner for HDR playback. While some scenes are comparable (no difference to my eyes), I see a slight improvement with the Panasonic which is better at handling the specular highlights. Also, the HDR Optimiser on the Panasonic makes it much easier to adjust the tone-mapping if you find it too dark/light. Much more difficult to tweak with the Oppo.

I still need to experiment more with the Panasonic, by using the custom curves and also outputting SDR/BT2020 directly to the JVC. But it looks so good right now and I am so busy, I am quite content to leave it as it is for now.

thanks for taking the time and effort to do this comparison. for some reason, i was under the impression that you are using the 9000 instead of the 820. the 9000 has rekindled my interested in the JVC N7 and i think it's quite amazing that Panasonic and JVC have teamed up this way. i can't believe that Oppo didn't think of this when they themselves were at the top of their game...

Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: Count on September 04, 2019, 16:47
I thought 820 will limit 500 nits only when we select SDR/BT2020, looks like my original understanding was wrong. I am using the setting with 350 nits now but wasnt sure whether the 820 does the limit or not since I am choosing HDR/BT2020.

If I dont choose HDR/BT2020 then it seems like my Benq 2700 wont do tone mapping and also couldnt engage on wide color filter. As I really like the picture with wide color filter on thus I leave the 820 output at HDR/BT2020.

I’m not sure what level of brightness/luminance the Panasonic outputs at for SDR/BT2020. My understanding is that when you output SDR/BT2020, your projector will read it as a SDR signal and does no tone mapping whatsoever. This is not to say that you get a SDR image, just that the projector treats it like normal SDR signal. That’s my understanding anyway.

So if you want your projector to tone map, output as HDR/BT2020 from the player. Turn on HDR Optimizer and select Basic Luminance Projector (which is 500 nits on the UB820). Compare to your earlier setting and see whether you prefer it.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: Count on September 04, 2019, 16:51
thanks for taking the time and effort to do this comparison. for some reason, i was under the impression that you are using the 9000 instead of the 820. the 9000 has rekindled my interested in the JVC N7 and i think it's quite amazing that Panasonic and JVC have teamed up this way. i can't believe that Oppo didn't think of this when they themselves were at the top of their game...



Most welcome. Glad to share my experience. The Panasonic players are really a godsend for projector owners. Maybe less of a difference for those with OLED.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: YANG on September 04, 2019, 17:08
...The Panasonic players are really a godsend for projector owners...
Only 2 models niah lah... UB9k and UB820.
The rest, UB450/420, UB150 is just nice for TVs.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: tsammyc on September 04, 2019, 17:47
Just ordered a UB450 from Amazon UK for my Panasonic OLED so that I can watch in HDR10+. It's only GBP168.24 (S$282) delivered in about a week via Amazon Global Shipping. Price is GBP149.17 and shipping is GBP19.07. Might not have the HDR Optimizer, but its for my Panasonic OLED so I shouldn't need it to enjoy Alita and Godzilla in glorious HDR10+. If you want the UB150, which doesn't have Dolby Vision, its a stunning GBP102! plus about GBP18 shipping. I got the UB450 because I need the dual HDMI out. Note that if you look on Amazon UK, it starts out at GBP179, but when you ship internationally, it goes down to GBP149 as they remove the VAT.

My BenQ 2700 seems to be doing a superb job tone mapping my $80 Philips UHD Blu-Ray Player, so I'm somewhat reticent to replace it with a Panny 820 unless I'm sure that I can get a better picture. In terms of adjusting brightness of different movies, I find tweaking the gamma sufficient and simple on the W2700 to get the appropriate picture.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: Tiktokape on September 04, 2019, 17:49
I wonder how much additional values does UB9000 give against UB820? Anybody care to share their insights?
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: YANG on September 04, 2019, 18:02
DAC of UB9k is a few notch above UB820. However, i think that applies to on-board decoding of multi-channel audio.
Premium build and XLR output also jacked up the price.
Video wise as most pointed, even HTF members do the same, VIDEO of both are on par.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: tsammyc on September 04, 2019, 18:35
Any idea what DAC is used? ESS Sabre? I used to have good results with Oppo to my receiver multichannel analog in with Dolby TrueHD and DTS HD and SACDs sounded great. But these are now also built into the higher end receivers so high end DAC in the Blu Ray players are less of a factor.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: Tiktokape on September 04, 2019, 18:47
DAC of UB9k is a few notch above UB820. However, i think that applies to on-board decoding of multi-channel audio.
Premium build and XLR output also jacked up the price.
Video wise as most pointed, even HTF members do the same, VIDEO of both are on par.
Thanks for sharing. Will find out more on the audio portion. Actually I'm less critic on the XLR output. So long it does the job excellently in video and audio for HT.

Any idea what DAC is used? ESS Sabre? I used to have good results with Oppo to my receiver multichannel analog in with Dolby TrueHD and DTS HD and SACDs sounded great. But these are now also built into the higher end receivers so high end DAC in the Blu Ray players are less of a factor.
AKM AK4493 32-bit DAC as per https://www.techhive.com/article/3386558/panasonic-dp-ub9000-review.html
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: YANG on September 04, 2019, 21:50
...I used to have good results with Oppo to my receiver multichannel analog in with Dolby TrueHD and DTS HD and SACDs sounded great...
juz a reminder that UB9000s' doesn't play SACDs
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: wcseow on September 04, 2019, 23:35
Lol...
Have been trying to see how I can get hold of the 820 at a reasonable price, especially now my trip to Sydney is postponed.

Cant find an Australian site that can shipped to Sin, Amazon UK cant too.

Looks like only option is to go TPS directly but seems like they will not remove VAT. Anyone bought from them before?

Thanks
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: YANG on September 05, 2019, 01:18
so far the only European e-tailer 8come across that removes VAT upon shipping off is the German site Hidden-Audio.de
but... they don't carry UB820, only eastern European assembled UB9004 that's not even DVD region hacked.
http://hidden-audio.de/index.php/cd-dvd-bluray-player/bluray-player/panasonic-dp-ub9004-uhd-blu-ray-player-4k-hdr.html
€855 with shipping to SG
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: YANG on September 05, 2019, 01:38
whoever going to Sydney for trip, go Apollo HiFi hoot is the most practical and budget friendly way to beat German e-tailer by savings of approx.$140 and also can get addition of multi region DVD hacked.
https://www.apollohifi.com.au/visual/blu-ray-players-recorders/panasonic-dp-ub9000.html
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: desray on September 05, 2019, 06:44
Hi sorry for the late reply - my new screen only just installed and was busy moving house, so only recently had a chance to play around with the settings and such.

Basically, for UHD playback through the Panasonic, I have not experimented using the custom curves. I set my Panasonic to tone map to projector (500 nits) and then have the JVC tone map from there - ie double tone-mapping. It works very well, and HDR Optimiser allows you to adjust the slider to your preference. Very useful for Marvel UHDs that have inaccurate or missing metadata.

Compared to the Oppo, the Panasonic is the winner for HDR playback. While some scenes are comparable (no difference to my eyes), I see a slight improvement with the Panasonic which is better at handling the specular highlights. Also, the HDR Optimiser on the Panasonic makes it much easier to adjust the tone-mapping if you find it too dark/light. Much more difficult to tweak with the Oppo.

I still need to experiment more with the Panasonic, by using the custom curves and also outputting SDR/BT2020 directly to the JVC. But it looks so good right now and I am so busy, I am quite content to leave it as it is for now.

Have not been reading this thread for a long time. So going to answer some of the queries here.

You are not missing anything here. Just stick to either double tone mapping with Panny + JVC projector or allow Panny to do HDR>SDR (BT2020) conversion to JVC to get the much needed boost for overall brightness level in PQ  (default to 350 nits). Remember to set the gamma to either 2.3 or 2.4.



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Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: desray on September 05, 2019, 06:51
I thought 820 will limit 500 nits only when we select SDR/BT2020, looks like my original understanding was wrong. I am using the setting with 350 nits now but wasnt sure whether the 820 does the limit or not since I am choosing HDR/BT2020.

If I dont choose HDR/BT2020 then it seems like my Benq 2700 wont do tone mapping and also couldnt engage on wide color filter. As I really like the picture with wide color filter on thus I leave the 820 output at HDR/BT2020.

While I don’t have much experience with the way BenQ Projector does its HDR tone mapping but unless u want to take advantage of the projector very own P3 Color filter (WCG), u need to send a HDR signal to engage otherwise I will advise u to use HDR>SDR (BT2020) at 350nits with gamma set at 2.4. This ONLY works IF BenQ Projector allows BT2020 to be engaged when sending this HDR>SDR conversion signal as it might (worse case scenario) only allow (BT709). You will known instantly with washed out picture. So is this what u are seeing?


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Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: desray on September 05, 2019, 06:54
I hated Panny way of ONLY restricting the basic luminance for projector at 350nits to its flagship player (UB9000) and not to the UB820/420. The 350nits is the holy grail for all projector users regardless whether u use BenQ or JVC projectors.


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Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: tsammyc on September 05, 2019, 08:18
While I don’t have much experience with the way BenQ Projector does its HDR tone mapping but unless u want to take advantage of the projector very own P3 Color filter (WCG), u need to send a HDR signal to engage otherwise I will advise u to use HDR>SDR (BT2020) at 350nits with gamma set at 2.4. This ONLY works IF BenQ Projector allows BT2020 to be engaged when sending this HDR>SDR conversion signal as it might (worse case scenario) only allow (BT709). You will known instantly with washed out picture. So is this what u are seeing?


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The BenQ W2700 also engages the WCG filter in "D. Cinema" mode when it does not get a HDR signal. I'm not quite sure exactly what the BenQ "HDR Brightness" control does exactly, but fiddling with it seems to improve detail in the specular highlights without overly darkening the overall picture. The control seems to be some form of gamma adjustment, but also interacts with the WCG and Brilliant Color so its complicated. BenQ's color accuracy and tone mapping are supposedly very good (compared to other PJs) that I'm not sure it will benefit as much from the Panny HDR Optimizer compared to the JVCs. The fact that Panny restricted their projector modes (350/500 nits) to the UB9000, is an unforgivable marketing ploy.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: YANG on September 05, 2019, 08:24
...The fact that Panny restricted their projector modes (350/500 nits) to the UB9000, is an unforgivable marketing ploy.
well... the “unfairness” perhaps is reflected on the selling price and targeted group...
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: desray on September 05, 2019, 08:27
The BenQ W2700 also engages the WCG filter in "D. Cinema" mode when it does not get a HDR signal. I'm not quite sure exactly what the BenQ "HDR Brightness" control does exactly, but fiddling with it seems to improve detail in the specular highlights without overly darkening the overall picture. The control seems to be some form of gamma adjustment, but also interacts with the WCG and Brilliant Color so its complicated. BenQ's color accuracy and tone mapping are supposedly very good (compared to other PJs) that I'm not sure it will benefit as much from the Panny HDR Optimizer compared to the JVCs. The fact that Panny restricted their projector modes (350/500 nits) to the UB9000, is an unforgivable marketing ploy.

Thanks tsammyc for sharing your experience with us on the BenQ HDR. I believed it will benefit many others.



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Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: desray on September 05, 2019, 08:35
well... the “unfairness” perhaps is reflected on the selling price and targeted group...

If it is a hardware limitation for the different models which resulted in the omission of key features, I can totally understand but this isn’t the case. So I’m with Tsammyc that It is a cheap and dirty move by Panny. Charging for better components is fine but certainly not for features if u are going to introduce the 820/420 as a true 4K UHD Blu-ray players. Not every videophile will also be an audiophile which requires high end player (UB9000).



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Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: Doggie Howser on September 05, 2019, 10:08
DH, any idea how much the postage would be from Oz to Singapore. I have a relative who can post the UB820 to me. It's 2.4kg apparently.

No idea - never really posted stuff to SG before

https://auspost.com.au/parcels-mail/calculate-postage-delivery-times/#/
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: Doggie Howser on September 05, 2019, 10:10
Only 2 models niah lah... UB9k and UB820.
The rest, UB450/420, UB150 is just nice for TVs.

UB420 is good for projectors - more so than TV. It has pretty much same video processing as the 820, just doesn't have Dolby Vision (which isnt available on projectors anyway)
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: Doggie Howser on September 05, 2019, 10:11
Didn't someone come up with a jailbreak software for the Panny 420/820? that will enable the full HDR tone mapping setting as found on the 9000?
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: Tiktokape on September 05, 2019, 10:39
Didn't someone come up with a jailbreak software for the Panny 420/820? that will enable the full HDR tone mapping setting as found on the 9000?

https://www.regionfreedom.com/index.php/enhanced-firmware/panasonic-blu-ray-players/67-dp-ub420-dp-ub424-dp-ub820-dp-ub824-dp-ub9000-dp-ub9004/182-dp-ub420-ub424-ub820-ub824-ub9000-ub9004-enhanced-firmware-for-selected-models-eb-ef-eg-gn-p-pc
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: jonlee on September 05, 2019, 11:38
Too many cheem info here.  Can allow me to ask one simple quesiton?

If only connecting to a 65-75" Panny OLED TV, which value Panny model is recommended?
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: tsammyc on September 05, 2019, 12:37
Anyone tried the jailbreak firmware?
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: FookLai on September 05, 2019, 13:08
Yes, it is working as per what they stated. I am able to select mode suppose to be on UB9000 on my UB820. Of course the region free/Cineavia for bluray and dvd come as per standard features for the jail break firmware.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: tsammyc on September 05, 2019, 14:46
Cool. Solves Desray's problem, assuming he wants to hack his 820 :)

With the Projector 350/500 nit output setting, do you see any improvement to the BenQ W2700 given it has different tone mapping compared to JVC? And is the improvement just the specular highlight detail? shadow detail? brightness/vibrance of the picture? Does the HDR Optimizer improve overall BenQ picture quality? If you think its really good, might get one
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: tsammyc on September 05, 2019, 15:38
Too many cheem info here.  Can allow me to ask one simple quesiton?

If only connecting to a 65-75" Panny OLED TV, which value Panny model is recommended?

Simple question but not so simple answer :) I will try although being a relative noob at this, others please correct if I'm wrong.

The problem with HDR and current display technology is that the maximum brightness on on parts of modern digitally shot movies (e.g. Avengers, Alita etc) can be 8,000 nits, while the highest brightness of consumer displays is around 2,000 nits in high end Samsung & Sony LCDs. OLED will top out at about 1,000 nits although more commonly 600-800 nits. Projectors in calibrated cinema mode are 500 nits. Since current displays cannot come close to displaying those super bright levels, they have to map down the bright data they get from the UHD Blu Ray into something that can be displayed. The simplest thing to do is to turn all scene data over the display nit limit to white. So explosions just become a large white ball. Newer displays try to improve this by having some algorithm recreate the data of the superbright scene by mapping the data down to levels that can be displayed, effectively recreating explosions at dimmer levels. If this isn't done the loss is called "loss of specular highlight detail" So far, most manufacturers are, unfortunately, not very good at these algorithms. LG's OLED Dynamic Tone Mapping restores the specular highlight detail, but makes the whole picture unnaturally dark (according to HDTVtest). Projectors are the worst affected since their maximum brightness is only 500 nits, if you don't do good tone mapping a lot of detail on many scenes can be lost. BenQ is the supposed leader in dynamic tone mapping for projectors now.

In come the Panny Blu-Ray players (eg UB820, UB9000 & UB420) have this supposed "killer feature" for projectors called the HDR Optimizer. You can tell the Panny the maximum nit level of your display (OLED, Bright LCD etc) and it will map the high nit data on the Blu Ray in such a clever way that you can see the detail in all the explosions ie "restore specular highlight detail". Annoyingly, only the super expensive UB9000 can set the max output for projectors at 350 or 500 nits, while the UB820 can only do 1,000 nits (OLED) so projector owners lose out.... unless they hack their UB820.

What I make of this is that if you have a display with imperfect algorithms (I read somewhere JVC & LG) then the Panny will make your explosions much more colorful than a big white ball :) heh heh. But wait....Like you I have a Panny OLED, so I assume that Panny's version of dynamic tone mapping for their OLED is the same as that fantastic algorithm in their Blu-Ray players. Perhaps all I need is the simple cheap UB450 that doesn't have the HDR Optimizer, but is cheap and has HDR10+, the new HDR standard that is appearing on Blu-Rays. HDR10+ dynamic meta data is supposed to improve the specular highlight detail, so will the HDR Optimizer even improve things? For projectors, is Panny's HDR Optimizer better than BenQ's state of the art tone mapping for projectors? This is unknown.

It boils down to this. Are you the type that wants to fiddle with the picture controls to get the best possible image before watching each Blu-Ray on your Panny OLED. If you are then perhaps get the UB820. If you have a projector get the UB9000 or hack the UB820. If you are like 99% of people and just want to watch, any UHD 4K Blu-Ray player, even the $80 one I bought, will get you 99% there. IMHO

If you all remember, a long time ago, before Blu-Ray, it was all about how well Blu-Ray players upscaled DVDs. And later how well they upscaled Blu-Rays to 4K displays. The cycle is repeating....
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: ronildoq on September 05, 2019, 15:53
The BenQ W2700 also engages the WCG filter in "D. Cinema" mode when it does not get a HDR signal. I'm not quite sure exactly what the BenQ "HDR Brightness" control does exactly, but fiddling with it seems to improve detail in the specular highlights without overly darkening the overall picture. The control seems to be some form of gamma adjustment, but also interacts with the WCG and Brilliant Color so its complicated. BenQ's color accuracy and tone mapping are supposedly very good (compared to other PJs) that I'm not sure it will benefit as much from the Panny HDR Optimizer compared to the JVCs. The fact that Panny restricted their projector modes (350/500 nits) to the UB9000, is an unforgivable marketing ploy.


The HDR brightness settings has an impact to brightness when tone mapping takes over on the PJ . It’s adjustment of -2 to +2 is specifically for tone mapping brightness adjustments, and its settings does correlate to WCG filter and brilliant colour

I set it to 0 when calibrating the w5700, then adjust according to content. The moment u find the specular highlights look washed out, u can adjust to bring it down to -2. With black panther, probably a +1 looked better. So it’s not a fixed setting this one. If u come across a movie with Low average brightness, then +1 or +2 on HDR brightness and vice versa. In my experience, the tone mapping on the BenQ is not as good. ( maybe cos I’m coming from OLED) .

The disc from spears and munsil is very good, u can see this effect when adjusting on the fly
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: Tiktokape on September 05, 2019, 16:15
Yes, it is working as per what they stated. I am able to select mode suppose to be on UB9000 on my UB820. Of course the region free/Cineavia for bluray and dvd come as per standard features for the jail break firmware.
Sounds good, thanks for sharing that, at least can aim for UB820.

Simple question but not so simple answer :) I will try although being a relative noob at this, others please correct if I'm wrong.

The problem with HDR and current display technology is that the maximum brightness on on parts of modern digitally shot movies (e.g. Avengers, Alita etc) can be 8,000 nits, while the highest brightness of consumer displays is around 2,000 nits in high end Samsung & Sony LCDs. OLED will top out at about 1,000 nits although more commonly 600-800 nits. Projectors in calibrated cinema mode are 500 nits. Since current displays cannot come close to displaying those super bright levels, they have to map down the bright data they get from the UHD Blu Ray into something that can be displayed. The simplest thing to do is to turn all scene data over the display nit limit to white. So explosions just become a large white ball. Newer displays try to improve this by having some algorithm recreate the data of the superbright scene by mapping the data down to levels that can be displayed, effectively recreating explosions at dimmer levels. If this isn't done the loss is called "loss of specular highlight detail" So far, most manufacturers are, unfortunately, not very good at these algorithms. LG's OLED Dynamic Tone Mapping restores the specular highlight detail, but makes the whole picture unnaturally dark (according to HDTVtest). Projectors are the worst affected since their maximum brightness is only 500 nits, if you don't do good tone mapping a lot of detail on many scenes can be lost. BenQ is the supposed leader in dynamic tone mapping for projectors now.

In come the Panny Blu-Ray players (eg UB820, UB9000 & UB420) have this supposed "killer feature" for projectors called the HDR Optimizer. You can tell the Panny the maximum nit level of your display (OLED, Bright LCD etc) and it will map the high nit data on the Blu Ray in such a clever way that you can see the detail in all the explosions ie "restore specular highlight detail". Annoyingly, only the super expensive UB9000 can set the max output for projectors at 350 or 500 nits, while the UB820 can only do 1,000 nits (OLED) so projector owners lose out.... unless they hack their UB820.

What I make of this is that if you have a display with imperfect algorithms (I read somewhere JVC & LG) then the Panny will make your explosions much more colorful than a big white ball :) heh heh. But wait....Like you I have a Panny OLED, so I assume that Panny's version of dynamic tone mapping for their OLED is the same as that fantastic algorithm in their Blu-Ray players. Perhaps all I need is the simple cheap UB450 that doesn't have the HDR Optimizer, but is cheap and has HDR10+, the new HDR standard that is appearing on Blu-Rays. HDR10+ dynamic meta data is supposed to improve the specular highlight detail, so will the HDR Optimizer even improve things? For projectors, is Panny's HDR Optimizer better than BenQ's state of the art tone mapping for projectors? This is unknown.

It boils down to this. Are you the type that wants to fiddle with the picture controls to get the best possible image before watching each Blu-Ray on your Panny OLED. If you are then perhaps get the UB820. If you have a projector get the UB9000 or hack the UB820. If you are like 99% of people and just want to watch, any UHD 4K Blu-Ray player, even the $80 one I bought, will get you 99% there. IMHO

If you all remember, a long time ago, before Blu-Ray, it was all about how well Blu-Ray players upscaled DVDs. And later how well they upscaled Blu-Rays to 4K displays. The cycle is repeating....
Good suggestion.  ;D
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: YANG on September 05, 2019, 17:08
Sounds good, thanks for sharing that, at least can aim for UB820.
Good suggestion.  ;D
If U or any others are planning to buy the UB820 from Australian Retailers, and staying a long period there(2wks or so...) can book appointment with Panasonic Service Center to get ur set "modded legally" for DVD Multi-Code.
http://support.interdyn.com.au/support/solutions/articles/4000135176-panasonic-multi-region
https://eng-au.faq.panasonic.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/21692/p/1638/c/46092/session/L3RpbWUvMTU2NzY3NDQ1OC9zaWQvZlVHN2VUcmN0NE1HTE10OUd2SDFzMkt3TmRyam5YMElyb0Nva2VqQTBYeXZscmo0azdZMm1tcTlxN0xIX3NSOFNOR3ZETDFYWlp3RzQ2Sml4ZjBuTXhGOFhCS1pjTm9zWjRlRW9BR3cxVTU5RDVLbUdRN0o5TkRRJTIxJTIx
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: Tiktokape on September 05, 2019, 17:42
If U or any others are planning to buy the UB820 from Australian Retailers, and staying a long period there(2wks or so...) can book appointment with Panasonic Service Center to get ur set "modded legally" for DVD Multi-Code.
http://support.interdyn.com.au/support/solutions/articles/4000135176-panasonic-multi-region
https://eng-au.faq.panasonic.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/21692/p/1638/c/46092/session/L3RpbWUvMTU2NzY3NDQ1OC9zaWQvZlVHN2VUcmN0NE1HTE10OUd2SDFzMkt3TmRyam5YMElyb0Nva2VqQTBYeXZscmo0azdZMm1tcTlxN0xIX3NSOFNOR3ZETDFYWlp3RzQ2Sml4ZjBuTXhGOFhCS1pjTm9zWjRlRW9BR3cxVTU5RDVLbUdRN0o5TkRRJTIxJTIx
Thanks for sharing, multi-code DVD is less an issue in my case because I have another Oppo to fall back. I'm planning to buy online so yet to execute it.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: tsammyc on September 05, 2019, 18:02
If U or any others are planning to buy the UB820 from Australian Retailers, and staying a long period there(2wks or so...) can book appointment with Panasonic Service Center to get ur set "modded legally" for DVD Multi-Code.
http://support.interdyn.com.au/support/solutions/articles/4000135176-panasonic-multi-region
https://eng-au.faq.panasonic.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/21692/p/1638/c/46092/session/L3RpbWUvMTU2NzY3NDQ1OC9zaWQvZlVHN2VUcmN0NE1HTE10OUd2SDFzMkt3TmRyam5YMElyb0Nva2VqQTBYeXZscmo0azdZMm1tcTlxN0xIX3NSOFNOR3ZETDFYWlp3RzQ2Sml4ZjBuTXhGOFhCS1pjTm9zWjRlRW9BR3cxVTU5RDVLbUdRN0o5TkRRJTIxJTIx

From the information, it looks like DVD region code can be modded to read US discs, but Blu-Ray cannot be modded from EU/Australia to multi region or all. Fortunately UHD doesn't have a region code
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: Count on September 05, 2019, 18:14
Annoyingly, only the super expensive UB9000 can set the max output for projectors at 350 or 500 nits, while the UB820 can only do 1,000 nits (OLED) so projector owners lose out.... unless they hack their UB820.

Just to clarify, the UB820 can tone map to 500 nits (under Basic Luminance Projector), but only the premium UB9000 can tone map to 500 as well as 350 nits. Makes no difference if you don't use a projector though.

For this reason, I am kinda tempted to try the jailbreak. For those who have downloaded and installed, how reliable is it? Won't have adverse effects on the player?
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: wcseow on September 05, 2019, 18:34
From the information, it looks like DVD region code can be modded to read US discs, but Blu-Ray cannot be modded from EU/Australia to multi region or all. Fortunately UHD doesn't have a region code

For me,  i dont have any Dvds so that is not an issue.

So far, those BRs that come bundle with UHD are of all region code, though I am only watching the UHDs.

The only "headache" is from which store to order online that delivers to Sin and hopefully claim tax as well...Lol
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: YANG on September 05, 2019, 19:04
i wanted to start order UHD discs from Australia,but concern abt package tio “raped” by customs ley...
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: wcseow on September 05, 2019, 19:56
Lol...dont think they will if it is not a lot. Many have done it without any incident I believe.

But so far, all mt UHD BRs purchases are hand carried in.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: FookLai on September 05, 2019, 22:20
Cool. Solves Desray's problem, assuming he wants to hack his 820 :)

With the Projector 350/500 nit output setting, do you see any improvement to the BenQ W2700 given it has different tone mapping compared to JVC? And is the improvement just the specular highlight detail? shadow detail? brightness/vibrance of the picture? Does the HDR Optimizer improve overall BenQ picture quality? If you think its really good, might get one

Too bad I don't have much time to test it out yet as my work require me to travel quite often. Will post feedback again once I tried more.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: jonlee on September 06, 2019, 00:31
In come the Panny Blu-Ray players (eg UB820, UB9000 & UB420) have this supposed "killer feature" for projectors called the HDR Optimizer. You can tell the Panny the maximum nit level of your display (OLED, Bright LCD etc) and it will map the high nit data on the Blu Ray in such a clever way that you can see the detail in all the explosions ie "restore specular highlight detail". Annoyingly, only the super expensive UB9000 can set the max output for projectors at 350 or 500 nits, while the UB820 can only do 1,000 nits (OLED) so projector owners lose out.... unless they hack their UB820.

What I make of this is that if you have a display with imperfect algorithms (I read somewhere JVC & LG) then the Panny will make your explosions much more colorful than a big white ball :) heh heh. But wait....Like you I have a Panny OLED, so I assume that Panny's version of dynamic tone mapping for their OLED is the same as that fantastic algorithm in their Blu-Ray players. Perhaps all I need is the simple cheap UB450 that doesn't have the HDR Optimizer, but is cheap and has HDR10+, the new HDR standard that is appearing on Blu-Rays. HDR10+ dynamic meta data is supposed to improve the specular highlight detail, so will the HDR Optimizer even improve things? For projectors, is Panny's HDR Optimizer better than BenQ's state of the art tone mapping for projectors? This is unknown.

It boils down to this. Are you the type that wants to fiddle with the picture controls to get the best possible image before watching each Blu-Ray on your Panny OLED. If you are then perhaps get the UB820. If you have a projector get the UB9000 or hack the UB820. If you are like 99% of people and just want to watch, any UHD 4K Blu-Ray player, even the $80 one I bought, will get you 99% there. IMHO
Can the UB420 set for 1000 nits to match panny OLED? Or min need UB820 to achieve this?
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: tsammyc on September 06, 2019, 07:58
Yes, the UB420 can, but not the UB450. But best check first by downloading the manual.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: tsammyc on September 06, 2019, 08:42
The UB820 can be ordered from Amazon UK today. It's GBP325 delivered, which includes shipping and 7% GST. Given the fall in GBP, it works out to S$555 (spot rate), which is about the price you can buy it in Australia retail, without shipping to Singapore.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: tsammyc on September 06, 2019, 08:54
Too bad I don't have much time to test it out yet as my work require me to travel quite often. Will post feedback again once I tried more.

FookLai, may head down your path. How hard was it to change the firmware on your UB820 and what was the cost? Desray you interested?
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: wcseow on September 06, 2019, 09:01
The UB820 can be ordered from Amazon UK today. It's GBP325 delivered, which includes shipping and 7% GST. Given the fall in GBP, it works out to S$555, which is about the price you can buy it in Australia retail, without shipping to Singapore.

Oh...i went into the site. Shipping is 30 GBP. Assuming current exchange rate of around 1.68, I think it works out to be about the sane if shipped from Aus.

mmm..looks like still a viable option for me as I still do not have a firm date to fly to Sydney..lol
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: Tiktokape on September 06, 2019, 09:22
The UB820 can be ordered from Amazon UK today. It's GBP325 delivered, which includes shipping and 7% GST. Given the fall in GBP, it works out to S$555 (spot rate), which is about the price you can buy it in Australia retail, without shipping to Singapore.
Nice! I did the same yesterday night too  ;D GBP has weaken so quite a good time to jump in.

FookLai, may head down your path. How hard was it to change the firmware on your UB820 and what was the cost? Desray you interested?
I'm interested too  :)
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: desray on September 06, 2019, 09:43
Yes, it is working as per what they stated. I am able to select mode suppose to be on UB9000 on my UB820. Of course the region free/Cineavia for bluray and dvd come as per standard features for the jail break firmware.

Let me have the link/site for me to check it out.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: wcseow on September 06, 2019, 10:09
Nice! I did the same yesterday night too  ;D GBP has weaken so quite a good time to jump in.
I'm interested too  :)

Did u get free shipping to Sin?
It says 30 pounds if i set delivery address to Sin
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: Tiktokape on September 06, 2019, 10:19
Let me have the link/site for me to check it out.

I posted the link above. Just need to contact the admin?

Did u get free shipping to Sin?
It says 30 pounds if i set delivery address to Sin
Amazon UK does not provide free shipping la. In the order, VAT will be taken out, that is your shipping fees indirectly.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: FookLai on September 06, 2019, 10:41
I posted the link above. Just need to contact the admin?
Amazon UK does not provide free shipping la. In the order, VAT will be taken out, that is your shipping fees indirectly.

Exactly, just need to contact the admin via that link. I chose to contribute the project with donation and it went quite smooth for the whole process.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: Tiktokape on September 06, 2019, 11:02
Exactly, just need to contact the admin via that link. I chose to contribute the project with donation and it went quite smooth for the whole process.
Great, that confirms what I read is right. Will JB mine when it arrives.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: tsammyc on September 06, 2019, 11:28
Did u get free shipping to Sin?
It says 30 pounds if i set delivery address to Sin

All in is GBP325 including shipping to Singapore & GST
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: tsammyc on September 06, 2019, 11:28
Exactly, just need to contact the admin via that link. I chose to contribute the project with donation and it went quite smooth for the whole process.

How much to donate ;)
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: wcseow on September 06, 2019, 14:03
All in is GBP325 including shipping to Singapore & GST

Thanks. I did not go until the checkout page. Lol
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: tsammyc on September 06, 2019, 16:02
Tracking info indicates that Amazon UK takes only 3 business days to deliver to Singapore!
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: desray on September 07, 2019, 07:40
Exactly, just need to contact the admin via that link. I chose to contribute the project with donation and it went quite smooth for the whole process.

Now I recalled. I did “express my willingness” to contribute. Not sure whether is the amount too low or what. I never did get a reply from them. So I gave up. My donation is around 20 euros (the site did not state any amount).

How much did you donate to “get their attention”?



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Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: FookLai on September 07, 2019, 08:22
Now I recalled. I did “express my willingness” to contribute. Not sure whether is the amount too low or what. I never did get a reply from them. So I gave up. My donation is around 20 euros (the site did not state any amount).

How much did you donate to “get their attention”?



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Pm you.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: desray on September 07, 2019, 08:27
Pm you.

Thanks. See my reply to u. I don’t think it is the amount. I think my MAC address is already in their system and as such I can’t resubmit my request again.



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Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: wcseow on September 07, 2019, 11:32
A little bit of decisiveness here. Lol

I have a X700 and Xbox one X. Dont quite like the Xbox Video/Audio as compared to X700 but X700 occasional freezing irks me. Have tried UP970 which I dont like too. Thus looking for another brand of UHD player which brings me to Panasonic.

UB420 : Good price, no Dolby Vision

UB450 : Good price,  no wireless, no internet apps, not sure whether it used HCX processor thus appears X700 with local availability is still a better choice

UB820 : Have everything I need but is pricier and I am not sure whether the HDR Optimiser is useful to me as I dont use projector and likely the next TV I am going to buy will need to have DV which sort of leads me to Panasonic TVs...Lol

Dolby Vision and HDR+ is probably the features I am keen on.

Am I thinking too much or just click BUY on 820..😁😁.life is short
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: YANG on September 07, 2019, 11:47
it all boils down to the components used. choice is simple, reference to the DVD period, if U want better audio video output connection, go for the mid range DV626, if U not so picky, entry lvl DVD player with digital output, composite video output, analog audio output shall do.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: wcseow on September 07, 2019, 12:09
it all boils down to the components used. choice is simple, reference to the DVD period, if U want better audio video output connection, go for the mid range DV626, if U not so picky, entry lvl DVD player with digital output, composite video output, analog audio output shall do.

Actually for me, currently key features is DV/HDR+. Analogue outputs not important. Video/Audio is. But I am not that into video details though I can appreciate the.video difference between the X700, UP970.and Xbox on my TV. Lol
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: tsammyc on September 07, 2019, 15:14
My UB450 arrived today, exactly 3 days after ordering from Amazon. UB820 will follow in a few days. Quality befits UB450's cheap price, but I was looking for a basic HDR10+ player for my Panny OLED to watch Alita and Godzilla in HDR10+. I'll try the UB820 on my BenQ projector, but if quality isn't an improvement from my $80 4K UHD Philips player, I'll just sell it off.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: tsammyc on September 12, 2019, 19:03
My UB820 came in today, so I spent some time comparing it to the UB450, which doesn't have the HDR optimizer. I connected them to a 65 inch Panny 65FZ950, which has its own HDR tone mapping and a HDR Brightness setting as well.

I'm not noticing any major improvement in tone mapping between the picture on Standard HDR Brightness, between the UB450 (no HDR Optimizer) and UB820 with the HDR Optimizer on. I suppose both are connected to a Panny OLED, which presumably has a similar tone mapping algorithm to that on the UB820.

Where there is a big difference is that the UB450 doesn't have a HDR Brightness slider and it's static brightness is similar to the UB820's "Natural" setting, a bit brighter than the UB820's "Standard" setting. In a bright room, shifting the HDR Brightness slider to "Light" or greater, brought out the detail in the shadows without blowing the highlights. This effect is very similar to lifting the shadows in Photoshop or other image editing software and I like it. I suspect, it destroys any directors' creative intent for lighting in the movie, but really allows you to see the details. The fact that the Panny knows the maximum brightness of the OLED, means it can brighten everything in a linear range without outputting a level that the OLED can't display. Quite smart and definitely worth the extra price of the UB820, especially if you are watching an OLED in a bright setting. With the UB450 playing, I tried to adjust the HDR Brightness control on the OLED to the maximum, hoping that it would  do the same thing as the UB820's HDR Brightness slider. The OLED's slider did brighten up the image, but it never got anywhere close to the boost from the UB820's slider.

Next, I'm going to hook up the UB820 to my BenQ W2700 projector and see if it can improve HDR tone mapping over BenQ's already excellent algorithm that handles HDR with wide color gamut. I suspect it may given the success with the OLED.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: wcseow on September 12, 2019, 19:44
I'm not noticing any major improvement in tone mapping between the picture on Standard HDR Brightness, between the UB450 (no HDR Optimizer) and UB820 with the HDR Optimizer on. I suppose both are connected to a Panny OLED, which presumably has a similar tone mapping algorithm to that on the UB820.

Where there is a big difference is that the UB450 doesn't have a HDR Brightness slider and it's static brightness is similar to the UB820's "Natural" setting, a bit brighter than the UB820's "Standard" setting. In a bright room, shifting the HDR Brightness slider to "Light" or greater, brought out the detail in the shadows without blowing the highlights. This effect is very similar to lifting the shadows in Photoshop or other image editing software and I like it. I suspect, it destroys any directors' creative intent for lighting in the movie, but really allows you to see the details. The fact that the Panny knows the maximum brightness of the OLED, means it can brighten everything in a linear range without outputting a level that the OLED can't display. Quite smart and definitely worth the extra price of the UB820, especially if you are watching an OLED in a bright setting. With the UB450 playing, I tried to adjust the HDR Brightness control on the OLED to the maximum, hoping that it would  do the same thing as the UB820's HDR Brightness slider. The OLED's slider did brighten up the image, but it never got anywhere close to the boost from the UB820's slider.


Seems like even with a Panny TV, the 820 still has its advantages.😁
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: tsammyc on September 12, 2019, 21:37
Yes. 820 is quite useful for OLED, even a Panny. I hooked up the 820's 7.1 analog out to a 16 year old Yamaha receiver and it sounds great with the sound steering nicely. About as good as the Oppo BDP-95 that was previously hooked up, which is high praise given it's state of the art DACs of the BDP-95 at the time. Taking the Oppo out from the cabinet for the first time in 8 years, I noted again how incredibly heavy it is, probably 4x the UB820. Sad to see it go and I doubt the Panny will sound anywhere close for redbook audio, while not being able to play my SACD & DVD-Audio collection. But that isn't important anymore as I'm fully on Tidal & MQA hi res these days.

Hooked it up briefly to the BenQ 2700 and it did throw a nice picture. I'm not sure yet how nice compared to the Philips 4K Blu-Ray player that it replaced as I need to do more tests.  Setting the max to 500 nits projector mode, Captain Marvel looked like it might have more contrast and I'm pretty sure the blacks in Alita were darker, while retaining shadow detail. This was on top of BenQ's HDR-Pro tone mapping as I can't see any way to turn it off.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: tsammyc on September 12, 2019, 21:48
Nice! I did the same yesterday night too  ;D GBP has weaken so quite a good time to jump in.
I'm interested too  :)

You got yours? My box had a huge cut in it, but fortunately missed the player.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: HDTV_noobie on September 12, 2019, 23:12
Got mine tonight too.  Just came back and saw it.  Anyone got the enhanced firmware yet?
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: wcseow on September 13, 2019, 00:03
Tsammyc
I saw your owl and I placed the order.
Lol
Title: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: Tiktokape on September 13, 2019, 08:44
You got yours? My box had a huge cut in it, but fortunately missed the player.
Oh yes, I have instructed it to be sent to my office address so I didn't receive directly. Same for mine, 2 cuts - one at corner and one in the middle of the box. Don't seems to impact the player, will check in details tonight. I guess you are enjoying yours greatly!

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190913/c23203dcddcef67f81a8f2b0c86d2708.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190913/d1379ba2a95887294c7a3ef7273a8782.jpg)
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: wcseow on September 13, 2019, 09:36
Could it be the cuts are for customs to check?
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: YANG on September 13, 2019, 09:45
...Same for mine, 2 cuts - one at corner and one in the middle of the box...
If order from UK... maybe custom checking on/for the free disc?
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: Tiktokape on September 13, 2019, 10:20
If order from UK... maybe custom checking on/for the free disc?
I didn’t order the version with free disc leh.


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Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: wcseow on September 13, 2019, 10:31
I didn’t order the version with free disc leh.


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Looks more like it is torn by someone, isn't it?
Does yours comes in Amazon packaging?
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: Tiktokape on September 13, 2019, 10:34

Looks more like it is torn by someone, isn't it?
Does yours comes in Amazon packaging?
Not at all.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: wcseow on September 13, 2019, 10:40
Not at all.

Mine is supposed to be.
Lol..preparing for worse... haha
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: YANG on September 13, 2019, 10:54
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190913/c23203dcddcef67f81a8f2b0c86d2708.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190913/d1379ba2a95887294c7a3ef7273a8782.jpg)
Earlier the picture doesn't load when i replied... now just saw. This is typical "chuck the package into tight space" poor handling damage on the packaging la... ha... I got such torn package before with one of my purchase from Germany before. And i thought my $2k watch will be gone case when i received my package then... Lucky, bohtaiji.

Sellers will cut corners to save costs one, u know i know.
Simple thing like double layer packaging, will cost seller roughly USD$3~8 more.
Transport/Shipping agents will also do the same, when ur package doesn't come straight from purchased country of origin, means from the time of dispatch until reaching ur hand... Even DHL/FeDex will also have one package handled by different country processing center.
The bottom pic dent/tear is common, compare to the top one which is serious... most likely the handling agent of one of the different stations mishandled ur single layer factory package by pushing it into tight space of the cargo carriage.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: tsammyc on September 13, 2019, 17:01
Mine had a similar cut, so it may be customs
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: YANG on September 13, 2019, 17:16
Y'all who ordered from UK... This Eastern Europe assembled set hv Chinese menu boh?
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: HDTV_noobie on September 13, 2019, 22:15
Guess I am blessed.  Didn't have any of the cut you guys mentioned. 

Had just updated my firmware to 1.60. Waiting for enhanced firmware.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: HDTV_noobie on September 13, 2019, 22:30
Y'all who ordered from UK... This Eastern Europe assembled set hv Chinese menu boh?

How to check?
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: avren on September 17, 2019, 11:46
Not sure if this is a good deal might be of interest. Amazon UK is selling UB820 for $289, price was $349 when added to cart a few days ago. No idea why price changed.  Good deal?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Panasonic-DP-UB820EB-Ultra-Blu-Ray-Player/dp/B07D9K6SC1/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=panasonic+ub820&qid=1568691660&sr=8-2
The UK UB820 dvd is also region locked? Thanks
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: YANG on September 17, 2019, 12:44
This AMAZON offer is very tempting.
@ this price i wouldn't expect it to be DVD region hacked.

as u can see here... unhacked UB820 is roughly 40pounds away from Amazon offer.
https://www.tps.uk.com/?tab_name=Panasonic&tab_id=52&choice_name=Blu-ray_Players&choice_id=143&product_group_id=224&product_name=Panasonic_DP-UB820_4K_Ultra_HD_Blu-ray_Player_-_DP-UB820EBK&product_id=4230&choice_type=1
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: wcseow on September 17, 2019, 13:10
Lol..i order at 325 last thursday and is still preparing to be despatch.

Submitted a request for refund for the difference. See whether they will do it. Lol
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: Tiktokape on September 17, 2019, 13:43
Y'all who ordered from UK... This Eastern Europe assembled set hv Chinese menu boh?
Will check over the weekend. Chalked it aside since I brought home on Friday.

Lol..i order at 325 last thursday and is still preparing to be despatch.

Submitted a request for refund for the difference. See whether they will do it. Lol
Isn't straight forward to cancel the order and submit a new purchase again?
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: jonlee on September 17, 2019, 16:46
So tempted to order from Amazon UK ... but I don't have a 4K TV yet!!
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: wcseow on September 17, 2019, 17:13
Isn't straight forward to cancel the order and submit a new purchase again?

Lol...they rejected my cancellation request.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: YANG on September 17, 2019, 17:19
So tempted to order from Amazon UK ... but I don't have a 4K TV yet!!
;D buy to upgrade ur old gear first, presentation gear talk later... maybe when time come, 4k STP(short throw projector with screen) may hit an affordable point that may make big inch OLEDs shy? ;D
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: HDTV_noobie on September 17, 2019, 19:13
Lol..i order at 325 last thursday and is still preparing to be despatch.

I ordered 6 Sep and the initial check over the weekend showed preparing for despatch.  But status got updated to despatched late Monday and I received it on Wed night.  So far my order with Amazon UK has been quite smooth (incl. previous encounters).
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: wcseow on September 18, 2019, 13:44
Lol..it's back to 329 pounds now.

Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: InnocentBlood on September 19, 2019, 22:51
for those of you who got this from amazon UK, any issues with the voltage? does it power up okay right out of the box?
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: Wilber on September 19, 2019, 22:53
uk running same voltage as us, I don't see any issue.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: YANG on September 19, 2019, 22:55
UK/Euro sets should be non universal 220v type?
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: InnocentBlood on September 20, 2019, 11:34
thanks guys :)
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: HDTV_noobie on September 20, 2019, 19:23
for those of you who got this from amazon UK, any issues with the voltage? does it power up okay right out of the box?

No issue.  Power up ok right out of box.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: wcseow on September 21, 2019, 00:11
Received my 820  at night and did some comparison with x700 and Xbox one x.

1.Sound is better than both
2.PQ is better than Xbox One X but slightly but noticeably better than X700
3. Certainly the menu/remote response is much slower than both.
4. Surprisingly, the Netflix supports Atmos. This being the case, can replace my Xbox One X .

Overall, happy with the purchase
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: Count on September 21, 2019, 08:50
Only thing I hate about the player is the remote. Buttons not intuitive and I keep pressing the wrong button, especially in the dark.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: desray on September 21, 2019, 10:09
Yep...the remote sucks!
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: wcseow on September 21, 2019, 10:15
+1

Will be setting up controls on my mobile app
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: Doggie Howser on September 21, 2019, 17:34
I am using the remote from the UB900
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: ralfale on September 21, 2019, 17:56
++1 on the remote. Lol !
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: YANG on September 21, 2019, 21:13
As pointed out by HT Dude...
http://www.youtube.com/v/GaCX8SaFPtk&fs=1
...the remote is hohkuah only...😁
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: wcseow on September 21, 2019, 21:24
Lol..

MO for UB900 remote from amazon uk

😁😁😁
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: jeffong on September 24, 2019, 22:04
Just placed order for a unit at 290 pounds before VAT removal.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: YANG on September 24, 2019, 22:33
the price... machiam DVD part not region hacked one.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: jeffong on September 25, 2019, 07:27
Well I can't remember the last time I even touched a Blu-ray title let alone a DVD.  Blu-ray titles that I do give a damm about have been ripped out as ISO's and stored on my NAS for easy viewing.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: YANG on September 26, 2019, 17:16
How to check?
Will check over the weekend. Chalked it aside since I brought home on Friday.
Nvrmind... ;D Just found a unbox and explore pic...
(https://post76.hk/data/attachment/forum/201909/16/141559mq11x1023x5buxqb.jpg)
https://post76.hk/thread-309912-1-1.html
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: jeffong on September 27, 2019, 20:29
Wow.. got it delivered today just 3 days after placing the order. Anyone updated to ver 1.6 yet?
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: wcseow on September 28, 2019, 06:45
Wow.. got it delivered today just 3 days after placing the order. Anyone updated to ver 1.6 yet?

I am on 1.6
No issue with the update.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: honyewl on September 29, 2019, 15:36
Well I can't remember the last time I even touched a Blu-ray title let alone a DVD.  Blu-ray titles that I do give a damm about have been ripped out as ISO's and stored on my NAS for easy viewing.

Hi,

My aging collection of BD is slowing deteriorating away.  Not familiar with how to rip and store as backup. 

Can share what software you use, and any tips for novice like me?

Thanks


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Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: HDTV_noobie on September 29, 2019, 23:16
Wow.. got it delivered today just 3 days after placing the order. Anyone updated to ver 1.6 yet?

I'm also on 1.6 and have upgraded to enhanced firmware as well.  No problem.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: avren on October 06, 2019, 10:34
Ca bros here share their streaming experiences with this player? Is VPN required to stream Netflix etc? Thanks
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: wcseow on October 06, 2019, 11:45
Ca bros here share their streaming experiences with this player? Is VPN required to stream Netflix etc? Thanks

My Netflix and Youtube works out of the box. Just login using your account.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: desray on October 06, 2019, 11:50
Ca bros here share their streaming experiences with this player? Is VPN required to stream Netflix etc? Thanks

No.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: StephenBishop on October 06, 2019, 11:55
Ca bros here share their streaming experiences with this player? Is VPN required to stream Netflix etc? Thanks

Netflix Singapore library, Amazon Singapore library and You Tube work out of the box. If you want to access the US library for Netflix and Amazon, you will need VPN or Smart DNS.
Title: Re: Panasonic UB820 UHD player
Post by: avren on October 06, 2019, 16:40
Netflix Singapore library, Amazon Singapore library and You Tube work out of the box. If you want to access the US library for Netflix and Amazon, you will need VPN or Smart DNS.
Thanks StephenBishop. Looking to use this mainly for Netflix streaming. Playing blurays & cds are a bonus. Will only be streaming local Netflix.