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Title: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: desray on January 14, 2018, 13:00
For Can lovers out there...Watch out for this little dongle coming soon...to retail for around less than S$200!

(http://assets.hardwarezone.com/img/2018/01/creative-superxfi-1.jpg)

"It is a combination of hardware and software, and years of research into room acoustics, human anthropometry, headphones, and how we listen to music. Creative says Super X-Fi is a “computationally intensive and algorithmically complex technology.”

http://www.hardwarezone.com.sg/feature-listening-creatives-new-super-x-fi-headphone-holography-technology (http://www.hardwarezone.com.sg/feature-listening-creatives-new-super-x-fi-headphone-holography-technology)

http://www.youtube.com/v/mAidEm9_JYM&fs=1

A demo session to the AVSForum staff and lastly CEO Sim Wong Woo's brief interview with Mark Henninger from AVSForum (jump to 15m34s in the clip)
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: finclk on January 19, 2018, 15:46
This is really fantastic. I will definitely get one of these when it comes out
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: Whazzup on February 04, 2018, 15:37
Waiting for this too. So far very quiet, not much news....
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: sevenz on February 05, 2018, 00:14
wow. This will be useful for those who have babies at home! and can't play loud but still want to enjoy movie. 

So, i can just connect directly to my AVR and it will work? Does it need a separate headphone amp?

Did the articles say it is able to simulate ATMOS too?
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: softhands on February 08, 2018, 20:20
Always try to buy creative so tis is great
Title: 3D Soundstage on Headphones, the "Creative" way
Post by: matix on February 23, 2018, 15:33
Share prices of Creative has doubled upon release of this news.  Interesting...

http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/companies-markets/creative-brings-3d-sound-to-headphones-after-us100m-rd (http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/companies-markets/creative-brings-3d-sound-to-headphones-after-us100m-rd)
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: ralfale on February 23, 2018, 17:52
http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/companies-markets/creative-brings-3d-sound-to-headphones-after-us100m-rd
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: wizardofoz on February 23, 2018, 21:32
Sounds like they are trying to do what the Smyth Realiser A16 (http://www.smyth-research.com) is doing. But it looks like they might only have the 7.1 sorted where the A16 does more. Granted its cheap but you also might have to have it work only certain headphones.


Time will tell. My A16 will be coming soon...it will double as my Atmos/DTS processor too.
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: ralfale on February 23, 2018, 21:34
Wow ... pls update back with some reviews if it's truly capable of producing the atmos surround effect. 

On a side note, creative share price more than doubled after the announcement. Seems like the industry has huge hope on this.
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: AndrewC on February 24, 2018, 08:07
Wonder if Creative’s tech infringes on Smyth Research’s IP...
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: desray on February 24, 2018, 11:16
Merged the 2 topics discussing the same product.
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: Knight_Rider on February 24, 2018, 11:39
Dongle looks promising hmmm crowdfunding again. Dun got discount at IT show after 6 months or not?  ;D
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: ralfale on February 24, 2018, 15:49
Do you guys foresee this to be wildly successful like the old sound blaster?
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: Knight_Rider on February 24, 2018, 21:34
Do you guys foresee this to be wildly successful like the old sound blaster?

With BT 5.0 I and APTX-HD I am leaning towards  ASTELL & KERN XB10 and Bluewave. Wireless freedom.
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: Knight_Rider on February 24, 2018, 23:55
Cheap and good https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/bluewave-wireless-hifi-headphone-amplifier-bluetooth-headphones#/
Above $200 must have MQA https://darko.audio/2017/01/myteks-clef-a-portable-mqa-dacamplifier-with-aac-bluetooth/
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: Knight_Rider on February 25, 2018, 10:15
And atmos http://nokiamob.net/2017/06/28/video-dolby-atmos-on-nokia-6-is-amazing/
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: dbchoong on February 25, 2018, 10:43
Waiting eagerly for the Super X-Fi to be available. :D
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: joamonte on February 25, 2018, 12:03
Sounds like they are trying to do what the Smyth Realiser A16 (http://www.smyth-research.com) is doing. But it looks like they might only have the 7.1 sorted where the A16 does more. Granted its cheap but you also might have to have it work only certain headphones.


Time will tell. My A16 will be coming soon...it will double as my Atmos/DTS processor too.

So who is copying who idea?
Title: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: Boxerfan88 on February 25, 2018, 22:36
It’s just a fancy DSP; recall those TV virtual surround feature via stereo speakers.

On the other hand, if their implementation is ground breaking & solid; and one can hear sounds coming from top plane/middle plane via ; the intellectual property will be very valuable.
Creative could license it out and earn passive revenue.
Probably that’s causing investors to jump in...


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Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: ralfale on February 25, 2018, 23:17
Need more reviewers to write on this to confirm if it's really that good!
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: ralfale on February 26, 2018, 11:33
Does the A16 maps the ears like creative?
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: Knight_Rider on February 26, 2018, 12:18
http://www.youtube.com/v/yO0kmiUYJlY&t=125s&fs=1
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: Doggie Howser on February 26, 2018, 14:25
Does the A16 maps the ears like creative?

The A8 (predecessor to A16) already did this many many many years ago
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: jelt2359 on February 26, 2018, 14:58
Sounds like they are trying to do what the Smyth Realiser A16 (http://www.smyth-research.com) is doing. But it looks like they might only have the 7.1 sorted where the A16 does more. Granted its cheap but you also might have to have it work only certain headphones.


Time will tell. My A16 will be coming soon...it will double as my Atmos/DTS processor too.

When is your A16 coming?
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: InnocentBlood on February 26, 2018, 15:01
i hope the A16 makes an appearance @ Can Jam next month. missed it last year because I was busy lusting over the Chord BluDave...
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: ralfale on February 26, 2018, 17:17
The A8 (predecessor to A16) already did this many many many years ago

Hmm then i dont get the hype around this
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: desray on February 28, 2018, 22:25
An invitation was extended to me to attend a demo session before it hits the market...unfortunately, I'm working. Anyone here attended the session, pls share your experience.
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: CASH on February 28, 2018, 22:49
i wish i was invited.... ;D
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: ralfale on March 01, 2018, 00:03
From an investment forum

Attended a demo of Super X-Fi at Creative HQ today and a presentation by Mr Sim himself thanks to an Analyst friend. Wow, they really have a solid product. You need to hear it for yourself to believe it, it's that incredible. Actual surround sound with only a pair of headphones. At the demo, the headphones was as good as an 8 speaker surround system.
It took Creative 20 years and US$100 million in R&D to achieve this holy grail of headphone manufacturers so it would not be easy for competitors to get into the boat. Even then after decades of competition in the tough tech market, Mr Sim has shrewdly decided to give away his technology away for free. It will be available as a free app which will be available from Q2 2018. Creative is targeting 50 million users in 2 years. However this app can only play downloaded songs on your device and would not work with streaming services like Sportify or Youtube. The app will be used to market SFXFi certified headphones. There is also a hardware dongle available from Q3 2018 for US$150 which you plugin between your device and the headphones. I like it that your own expensive headphones can still be used.
Yes, what TTI said is all true, it's untested at the market place and we don't know how profitable it will be but I think Mr. Sim's plan to give the technology away as a free app is brilliant as it would definitely go viral and make Creative a household name again to a whole new generation. As the Tech companies on Nasdaq has shown, you do not need to be profitable for your share price to soar. It's definitively a multi-bagger but you may want to wait for some pullback before you enter. DYODD.
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: desray on March 01, 2018, 12:40
From an investment forum

Attended a demo of Super X-Fi at Creative HQ today and a presentation by Mr Sim himself thanks to an Analyst friend. Wow, they really have a solid product. You need to hear it for yourself to believe it, it's that incredible. Actual surround sound with only a pair of headphones. At the demo, the headphones was as good as an 8 speaker surround system.
It took Creative 20 years and US$100 million in R&D to achieve this holy grail of headphone manufacturers so it would not be easy for competitors to get into the boat. Even then after decades of competition in the tough tech market, Mr Sim has shrewdly decided to give away his technology away for free. It will be available as a free app which will be available from Q2 2018. Creative is targeting 50 million users in 2 years. However this app can only play downloaded songs on your device and would not work with streaming services like Sportify or Youtube. The app will be used to market SFXFi certified headphones. There is also a hardware dongle available from Q3 2018 for US$150 which you plugin between your device and the headphones. I like it that your own expensive headphones can still be used.
Yes, what TTI said is all true, it's untested at the market place and we don't know how profitable it will be but I think Mr. Sim's plan to give the technology away as a free app is brilliant as it would definitely go viral and make Creative a household name again to a whole new generation. As the Tech companies on Nasdaq has shown, you do not need to be profitable for your share price to soar. It's definitively a multi-bagger but you may want to wait for some pullback before you enter. DYODD.

Thanks for the extract of the comments by the dude that attended yesterday's session. I'll have to wait for the next invitation to experience myself. Their demo session timing really kind of odd...at 4.30pm during weekdays...Sigh!
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: Doggie Howser on March 01, 2018, 13:43
So it looks like they are using "photos" of your ears and face to create the 3D HRTF profile rather than just microphone..

That would be (slightly) different from the microphone only approach of Smyth.

I would be surprised if Smyth didn't sue.

Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: sevenz on March 01, 2018, 21:01
I'm keen on this product.

Very useful when u have babies at home!!!
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: Doggie Howser on March 03, 2018, 19:38
If you want Atmos better to get Smyth
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: desray on March 03, 2018, 20:50
If you want Atmos better to get Smyth

Probably but the value proposition of the Creative is  hard to beat...I'll reserve my comments AFTER I have hear it for myself.
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: Doggie Howser on March 03, 2018, 21:24
Probably but the value proposition of the Creative is  hard to beat...I'll reserve my comments AFTER I have hear it for myself.

Would you be satisfied with 5.1.2?

Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: dbchoong on March 03, 2018, 21:53
Creative has probably learned the hard way that being the first or the best technically, does not mean financial success.
Being able to produce, package and market to the masses is the key to success.
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: desray on March 04, 2018, 08:49
Creative has probably learned the hard way that being the first or the best technically, does not mean financial success.
Being able to produce, package and market to the masses is the key to success.
Agreed with you bro dbchoong...

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Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: desray on March 04, 2018, 08:52
Would you be satisfied with 5.1.2?
I will not take this as a serious contender with a physical speaker setup but if technology has come this far to prove that Atmos effects can be well implemented within the headphone sphere (to a reasonably good extent) w/o splurging too much to benefit the realms of gaming and equivalent...I'll say it is a step in the right direction for Creative this time.

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Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: Doggie Howser on March 04, 2018, 09:22
I will not take this as a serious contender with a physical speaker setup but if technology has come this far to prove that Atmos effects can be well implemented within the headphone sphere (to a reasonably good extent) w/o splurging too much to benefit the realms of gaming and equivalent...I'll say it is a step in the right direction for Creative this time.

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Then you’ve not heard the Smyth. Even in A8 mode, it was phenomenally good
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: in1voice on March 07, 2018, 13:20
Where can we buy or try the Smyth A8 or A16?
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: Audio on March 07, 2018, 13:28
The Smyth A8 has a very high learning curve experience for the users.  I hope the A16 would be more user friendly.
SLT used to be the agent for Singapore.  Now, I guess you have to order directly from Smyth.

(Audio)
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: sevenz on March 14, 2018, 23:03

ST released an article today on this
http://www.straitstimes.com/tech/audio/surround-sound-with-a-dongle

Expected cost sgd $200!  :o amazing price.

With this price point it's a no brainer man if it can get 50-60% of smyt sq

And can this be used with any headphones/earphone or must be of certain spec?
Title: Re: 3D Soundstage on Headphones, the "Creative" way
Post by: tantantan on March 16, 2018, 11:59
Did you read the ending quote in that article? I almost fell off my chair laughing. Dude thinks he changed human history by making this thing.

World hunger? Political oppression? Climate change? Nah....not as important as headphone sound inside your head, now that is pure evil, we must end this madness!
Title: Re: 3D Soundstage on Headphones, the "Creative" way
Post by: YANG on March 16, 2018, 12:30
LaiLaiLai!!! Place bets!!!
1yr later AhTiong's cheong version will flood the market boh?
Title: Re: 3D Soundstage on Headphones, the "Creative" way
Post by: Chowbotak on March 16, 2018, 16:08
Did you read the ending quote in that article? I almost fell off my chair laughing. Dude thinks he changed human history by making this thing.

World hunger? Political oppression? Climate change? Nah....not as important as headphone sound inside your head, now that is pure evil, we must end this madness!

He said it was his gift to humanity. Quite different from changing human history
Title: Re: 3D Soundstage on Headphones, the "Creative" way
Post by: etnt on March 16, 2018, 16:10
and audeze joins in the fray
https://www.audeze.com/products/mobius-series/mobius-headphone
Title: Re: 3D Soundstage on Headphones, the "Creative" way
Post by: Knight_Rider on March 16, 2018, 16:48
LaiLaiLai!!! Place bets!!!
1yr later AhTiong's cheong version will flood the market boh?

No need 1 year. Now crowdfunding jin jia kin.
Title: Re: 3D Soundstage on Headphones, the "Creative" way
Post by: james46 on March 16, 2018, 17:12
He said it was his gift to humanity. Quite different from changing human history

Wa make himself into a saint. Big word indeed. I think you bro CBT have contributed more 😊😊😊
Title: Re: 3D Soundstage on Headphones, the "Creative" way
Post by: AndrewC on March 16, 2018, 19:07
LaiLaiLai!!! Place bets!!!
1yr later AhTiong's cheong version will flood the market boh?

Hahaha ;D… No need to bet, it’s guaranteed! Cheap knock-offs from the likes of Xiaomi, Huawei etc, won’t work as well, but they’ll flood the market anyway and the masses won’t know or won’t care about the difference.

I have to wonder though, if Creative themselves are “leveraging” on someone else’s IPR ;D
Title: Re: 3D Soundstage on Headphones, the "Creative" way
Post by: YANG on March 16, 2018, 20:13
SWH now reminds me of a old grass root leader i met in kopitiam. He claim that last time under Yeo NingHong period hes somekind of RC executive... Blablabla until hv dragon hv tiger... Simi nobody will disturb him la... Then when his unit water leak to unit below, tio complain gaogao... Kns... When some gets too old n klocky... Nvr though of backfire/consequences one...

100mil spent on RnD... Good luck la!
Title: Re: 3D Soundstage on Headphones, the "Creative" way
Post by: Zerstorer on March 23, 2018, 05:06
I have heard the superxfi demo and the results are pretty impressive. The placement of sound sources in a 360 degree soundstage is about as precise and tangible compared to the 8 speaker elac setup in their showroom. The only difference might be that the headphones lack abit of visceral impact compared to the subwoofer enhanced speaker setup.

This capability for just the price of a pair of headphones or amp is very attractive. I would certainly buy one when it's out.

Imagine a future when home theatre and music listening is not limited to any sweet spot.

What remains is just the final execution and time to market. Creative needs to get the product out to market before the Chinese companies jump in at a lower price point.

If they can quickly integrate this into their entire product lineup, it can definitely be a new revival for the company as this is a killer feature that extends the appeal of any headphone amp, dac, soundcard or portable media player.

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Title: Re: 3D Soundstage on Headphones, the "Creative" way
Post by: InnocentBlood on March 23, 2018, 17:19
for those of you who have actually tried the product, how was the dongle connected to the AVR/ Blu Ray player to demonstrate a movie soundtrack multi channel sound over the headphones?

Creative is definitely NOT selling this dongle just to be connected to your mobile phone so that you can "enhance" your music files from stereo to surround sound effect right? 
Title: Re: 3D Soundstage on Headphones, the "Creative" way
Post by: Zerstorer on March 24, 2018, 08:39
It's designed to be dongle that accepts only a USB output for now. So I guess the initial target is just mobile users.

Imagine a surround processor/DAC using this technology that can connect to multiple headphones at once through bluetooth.:)

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Title: Re: 3D Soundstage on Headphones, the "Creative" way
Post by: lwxian on March 24, 2018, 16:23
I am using Creative’s EMU Teak headphones... very high quality stuff. I highly recommend it to all. Try it when you get the chance.
Title: Re: 3D Soundstage on Headphones, the "Creative" way
Post by: Saycheese78 on March 25, 2018, 10:06
https://www.nuraphone.com
This one look similar.
Title: Re: 3D Soundstage on Headphones, the "Creative" way
Post by: InnocentBlood on March 26, 2018, 14:59
I am using Creative’s EMU Teak headphones... very high quality stuff. I highly recommend it to all. Try it when you get the chance.

I've owned the EMU Teak before - I got the massdrop edition. These cans are quite good. I even got a chance to meet the designer @ Can Jam 2017. really nice guy :) I eventually had to sell them away when I upgraded to the Fostex TH900 mkII. for those of you who like that type of sound sig, you can't go wrong with EMU Teak.
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: InnocentBlood on September 23, 2018, 23:14
This is being released tomorrow:

https://sg.creative.com/sxfi-draw/

I hope HWZ does a comprehensive review.
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: sevenz on September 23, 2018, 23:52
yay!!!
Title: Re: 3D Soundstage on Headphones, the "Creative" way
Post by: Knight_Rider on September 24, 2018, 14:55
Lai liao


https://www.hardwarezone.com.sg/tech-news-meet-sxfi-amp-and-sxfi-air-creatives-first-products-incorporate-super-x-fi-technology
Title: Re: 3D Soundstage on Headphones, the "Creative" way
Post by: jon_g9 on September 24, 2018, 18:44
Just ordered for the fun of it. Need to attend a short tutorial and pick up from creative hq. Otherwise shipping will only commerce in a month's time

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Title: Re: 3D Soundstage on Headphones, the "Creative" way
Post by: InnocentBlood on September 24, 2018, 19:39
I’ve put in my order as well. Pickup @ Creative HQ on Oct 05 😊🎧
Title: Re: 3D Soundstage on Headphones, the "Creative" way
Post by: dbchoong on September 24, 2018, 19:44
Ordered one too. Only can pick up Oct 12 as I'm out of town.
Title: Re: 3D Soundstage on Headphones, the "Creative" way
Post by: bigtree on September 24, 2018, 20:15
Hoot zor!!!! Mod ok to post code for 20 bucks off??
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: dbchoong on September 24, 2018, 20:42
You'll get it $20 cheaper with referral code http://sxfi.refr.cc/choongs. I get $20 too. Win Win.. :)
Title: Re: 3D Soundstage on Headphones, the "Creative" way
Post by: shk on September 24, 2018, 20:44
Ordered collecting 12 Oct
Title: Re: 3D Soundstage on Headphones, the "Creative" way
Post by: francis wu on September 24, 2018, 20:50
Hoot zor!!!! Mod ok to post code for 20 bucks off??

You are hereby instructed to post the code to share with your forum Bros ;D
Title: Re: 3D Soundstage on Headphones, the "Creative" way
Post by: bigtree on September 24, 2018, 20:55
my code ah. Francis tai gor 5D hoot!

http://sxfi.refr.cc/francisy

You are hereby instructed to post the code to share with your forum Bros ;D
Title: Re: 3D Soundstage on Headphones, the "Creative" way
Post by: Knight_Rider on September 24, 2018, 21:04
Usb C I scared cannot output. Where to test first.
Title: Re: 3D Soundstage on Headphones, the "Creative" way
Post by: francis wu on September 24, 2018, 21:05
Ordered...use this for $20 off..
http://sxfi.refr.cc/wookimleong
Title: Re: 3D Soundstage on Headphones, the "Creative" way
Post by: Jason Yeo on September 24, 2018, 21:17
Ordered 1 too.

Have a referral link . You get S$20 off , I get S$20 :)

http://sxfi.refr.cc/jasonyeoc
Title: Re: 3D Soundstage on Headphones, the "Creative" way
Post by: Jagdpanzer on September 24, 2018, 22:20
I ordered one too.

Not compatible with Apple iPhone IOS till probably next quarter.
Title: Re: 3D Soundstage on Headphones, the "Creative" way
Post by: Angelo on September 24, 2018, 22:44
Me ordered one too.. using Francis's referral code.

Here is mine.. and you can use it to get $20 off.
http://sxfi.refr.cc/terencey

Regards,
Angelo
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: sevenz on September 24, 2018, 22:57
wow u ordered already?  ;D

Just curious how does this work? Does it connect to our avr?

Can it work with shakers?
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: Jason Yeo on September 24, 2018, 23:05
I listened to smyth A8 before and still feel it is the best .It really feel like sounds from speakers . Have to take off the headphone to confirm . Tried Audeze Mobius, it is good but really no match to Smyth A8 . Ordered this Creative sxfi to compare with Audeze Mobius.
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: wizardofoz on September 24, 2018, 23:14
Hoping my A16 will not be too far away...my last purchase for a while I think...aside from maybe 4K tv or pj
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: Jason Yeo on September 24, 2018, 23:20
A16 been delaying for few years. I waited mine for 9months. It will be the best beside the A8 for "out of your head " experience . Hope it really deliver ....
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: desray on September 24, 2018, 23:37
This is being released tomorrow:

https://sg.creative.com/sxfi-draw/

I hope HWZ does a comprehensive review.

I recalled I was invited to Creative HQ for an exclusive demo session for this product but I didn’t make it due to work commitment.

This is an interesting device that I m looking forward to try myself.


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Title: Re: 3D Soundstage on Headphones, the "Creative" way
Post by: shk on September 24, 2018, 23:55
Wonder using the lightning to USB-C cable can help to get it work with iphone. From its guide it says people used apple camera adapter and able to make it work.
Title: Re: 3D Soundstage on Headphones, the "Creative" way
Post by: shk on September 25, 2018, 00:01
For all to share!

http://sxfi.refr.cc/hankees
Title: Re: 3D Soundstage on Headphones, the "Creative" way
Post by: twlmad on September 25, 2018, 01:28
http://sxfi.refr.cc/weilongt
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: dbchoong on September 25, 2018, 07:42
wow u ordered already?  ;D

Just curious how does this work? Does it connect to our avr?

Can it work with shakers?

From what I see,  it'll work with your phone or PC as it connects by USB.
Cannot see how it can link to avr (why would you need one in this case).

But maybe I'm wrong.  We'll know soon enough.
Title: Re: 3D Soundstage on Headphones, the "Creative" way
Post by: avo on September 25, 2018, 09:51
http://sxfi.refr.cc/cheekango
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: BadEnglish on September 25, 2018, 09:54
I recalled I was invited to Creative HQ for an exclusive demo session for this product but I didn’t make it due to work commitment.

This is an interesting device that I m looking forward to try myself.


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I've recalled your previous recall too ;D
Title: Re: 3D Soundstage on Headphones, the "Creative" way
Post by: bigtree on September 25, 2018, 10:02
MOD, I think got a bit too many threads on this sxfi thingy. Appreciate if can merge all the threads together
Title: Re: 3D Soundstage on Headphones, the "Creative" way
Post by: matix on September 25, 2018, 10:06
Here is a link for $20 discount too.  http://sxfi.refr.cc/dannytan

Bought it anyway even though I can't see how I can use it.  Maybe buy a PS4 and watch bluray on it.  Doesn't seem to connect to bluray player, AVR or even my Apple phone for now.. 
Title: Re: 3D Soundstage on Headphones, the "Creative" way
Post by: avo on September 25, 2018, 10:18
Not sure how it works, but gotta support Mr Sim.
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: keai on September 25, 2018, 10:29
it is a wired headphone, hmm....so used to wireless nowadays, will wait for sxfi air to roll ouy(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180925/eae5c4fe53209fe40be04c0e8e330602.gif)

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Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: avo on September 25, 2018, 10:34
Official specs:
https://www.sxfi.com/amp/

Product Guide:
https://superxfi.com/product-guide

It mentioned supported input as:
2.0/5.1/7.1 channel, 24 bit/96 kHz

Quite powerful. :P
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: InnocentBlood on September 25, 2018, 11:02
if you have a PS4, you can use 3.1 USB-A to USB-C Cable to connect the SXFI to your PS4 to experience surround sound on your headphones. this was what I was told by Creative Labs on their FB page. I am hoping to demo this exact scenario when I go do my ear mapping and pick-up.
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: keai on September 25, 2018, 14:20
if you sit faraway from ps4, need a long cable then....

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Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: avo on September 25, 2018, 14:38
I wonder if the dongle accept bitstream or must convert to pcm multichannel?
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: yuriais on September 25, 2018, 20:01
Here is a link for the $20 discount.
http://sxfi.refr.cc/jeremysia

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Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: wizardofoz on September 25, 2018, 20:16
Works with PC and mac and andrude but not ibone ... wtf!!!
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: rayleh on September 25, 2018, 20:20
Supports PS4 but not Xbox. Will the adopt the wait and see approach until it supports Xbox for late night movies watching.
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: Knight_Rider on September 25, 2018, 20:45
Works with PC and mac and andrude but not ibone ... wtf!!!

Use the usual camera adapter. Not sure if the lightning to USB C works. Also not sure if all android works as some don't output digitally through USB C
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: gadenp on September 25, 2018, 23:19
Another link for the a $20 discount: http://sxfi.refr.cc/yixiongl
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: sevenz on September 26, 2018, 00:10
From what I see,  it'll work with your phone or PC as it connects by USB.
Cannot see how it can link to avr (why would you need one in this case).


Oh. Because my perception is - now I using avr and bdplayer to watch movies. If i watch a movie using this thing, do i connect the headphone to the avr headphone jack?

how does it work... Mmm...
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: alamakazam on September 26, 2018, 00:56
Oh. Because my perception is - now I using avr and bdplayer to watch movies. If i watch a movie using this thing, do i connect the headphone to the avr headphone jack?

how does it work... Mmm...

simple words , is usb "DAC/soundcard" with some hyped DSP

connect to computer ... u can play multichannel movie/game and playback with X-FI "simulated" surround sound on your "Stereo" headphone, it should have its own driver, it works like a soundcard

connect to smartphone .... there is app, u must use to have that X-FI feel, because it holds the profile of the user... If I am not wrong is stereo music playback with some enhancement
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: alamakazam on September 26, 2018, 01:03
Quote
Can I use the SXFI AMP with a Windows PC or Mac?

Yes, plug it in to a USB port, and it will be recognized as an audio playback device by Windows or Mac OS.
Before using your SXFI AMP with a PC or Mac, you will need to do a one-time setup of the SXFI AMP with your profile, using an Android device.

For Windows: By default, Windows will use it for stereo playback. For advanced users who wish to playback in multichannel audio, you have to go to the Control Panel / Sound / Manage Audio Devices. Click on “Super X-Fi AMP” Speakers, and click ‘Configure’, to set to 7.1 channels. You can also go into the "Properties" tab / Advanced, to change it to 24 bit 96KHz Studio Quality.
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: alamakazam on September 26, 2018, 01:05
Works with PC and mac and andrude but not ibone ... wtf!!!

though....there is app store logo on their website...
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: jng2 on September 26, 2018, 06:33
Here is the link for $20 discount  :)
http://sxfi.refr.cc/johnsonn (http://sxfi.refr.cc/johnsonn)
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: dbchoong on September 26, 2018, 09:34
I think to use Super X-Fi with our big screens (not phone or PC), we will need to use a PC/Mac - HDMI connected to our screens.
Then PC/Mac USB connect to SXFi

If we have multiple listeners - is it possible to connect to more than 1 SXFi?
Will it work with USB extension ports?
What movie players/software will it work with? Windows Media player, VLC, Youtube, Netflix, etc.?
Does it work with MKV, BD ISO, etc.?
What kind of audio source? MP3, FLAC, Dolby, DTS, Atmos, DTS-X?


These are some things I wish their FAQ had more info on.
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: Jagdpanzer on September 26, 2018, 10:05
Creative market the Super X-Fi more to work with stereo audio files and then simulate to holographic pseudo surround audio.
I don't think it's meant to work with video encoded files like mkv or BDISO.
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: dbchoong on September 26, 2018, 10:15
I thought I saw in some SXFI youtube in CES - they were showing the Dolby Atmos demo material.
See @6.30 min onwards.

http://www.youtube.com/v/mAidEm9_JYM&fs=1
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: YANG on September 26, 2018, 11:11
(https://www.sxfi.com/tech/images/sxfi_air_black_white.jpg)
https://sxfi.com/air/

This will be much an attraction to me!!!
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: InnocentBlood on September 26, 2018, 12:30
I thought I saw in some SXFI youtube in CES - they were showing the Dolby Atmos demo material.
See @6.30 min onwards.

http://www.youtube.com/v/mAidEm9_JYM&fs=1


the setup in this video clip is what I am trying to duplicate in my home setup 😊 I'm hoping that they will reconstruct this demo @ Creative HQ so that I can see for myself how they are playing the source files and how the various cable connections are being made.
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: avo on September 26, 2018, 12:34
According to their product guide:

"For Windows: By default, Windows will use it for stereo playback. For advanced users who wish to playback in multichannel audio, you have to go to the Control Panel / Sound / Manage Audio Devices. Click on “Super X-Fi AMP” Speakers, and click ‘Configure’, to set to 7.1 channels. You can also go into the "Properties" tab / Advanced, to change it to 24 bit 96KHz Studio Quality. "
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: wizardofoz on September 26, 2018, 12:57
So this device/technology only does 7.1 then?
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: wizardofoz on September 27, 2018, 11:00
http://www.youtube.com/v/RtY9QIkRJxA&fs=1
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: avo on September 27, 2018, 11:06
So this device/technology only does 7.1 then?

They can do 2.0, 5.1 and 7.1.
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: matix on September 27, 2018, 11:38
Still thinking of how to use this thing... Does anyone has a Xiaomi Projector and can confirm if there is a USB audio out?  BTW,  my collection date on 16 Oct has been cancelled due to an event and they have allowed me to collect now on the 5th! 
Title: 600 units of Super X-Fi amp sold in first 20 minutes: Creative
Post by: InnocentBlood on September 27, 2018, 17:56
not too shabby...

https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/companies-markets/600-units-of-super-x-fi-amp-sold-in-first-20-minutes-creative
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: mikeang88 on September 27, 2018, 21:23
I ordered one the first minute it went online. But I still cannot figure out how to use this for HT instead of just PC or mobile.
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: alamakazam on September 27, 2018, 21:26
I ordered one the first minute it went online. But I still cannot figure out how to use this for HT instead of just PC or mobile.

confuse tactics by creative

they cant convince... so they confuse LOL

pretty sure it doesnt translate analog signal

it only accept usb , it needs windows or android

so for HT... your source will be your computer... it cant be your AVR anymore...
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: alamakazam on September 27, 2018, 21:33
if it really good.... they can come out with their own headphone enabled AVR

creative... u hear me?
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: jon_g9 on September 28, 2018, 12:45
it's stated that PS4 is compatible but i wonder how to connect. is there a optical-typeC adapter in the market?
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: dbchoong on September 28, 2018, 16:45
First review by CNET (https://www.cnet.com/reviews/creative-sxfi-amp-preview/?ftag=CAD32275cd&bhid=22397771799931948647509907948041).  :D
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: desray on September 29, 2018, 11:54
I think we can request one of the members here who is working for Creative to allow for an open house or demo session for XP members to have a listen ourselves instead of relying on reviews. Sound very subjective.

I forget who is the member here. Care to reveal yourself?


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Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: Knight_Rider on September 29, 2018, 13:36
I think we can request one of the members here who is working for Creative to allow for an open house or demo session for XP members to have a listen ourselves instead of relying on reviews. Sound very subjective.

I forget who is the member here. Care to reveal yourself?


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Great need to know if it works with all hardware. I think not all android phones can output through usb c.
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: in1voice on October 02, 2018, 17:52
I still can't figure out how to use this gadget sensibly. If it can't be used with headphone or HDMI outputs from media players, bluray players or AVRs, it will remain a gimmick. Immersive surround sound should be paired with big screens.

Maybe I'm missing something here....
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: InnocentBlood on October 02, 2018, 18:07
I still can't figure out how to use this gadget sensibly. If it can't be used with headphone or HDMI outputs from media players, bluray players or AVRs, it will remain a gimmick. Immersive surround sound should be paired with big screens.

Maybe I'm missing something here....

i have the same question too. Creative says the amp works with devices that output audio over USB. that is why regular BD players and AVRs are ruled out - for now, at least. the PS4 outputs audio over USB but my concern is whether the PS4's USB output can do multichannel or is it restricted to stereo only...
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: mikeang88 on October 02, 2018, 19:39
I wonder for the bluetooth headset one they are releasing next quarter, would it be able to support via TV BT? If yes, there is a chance it can use for HT..
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: dXter on October 02, 2018, 22:06
Read their product guide

"Can I hook up SXFI AMP to my TV?

No. However, we are currently working on a SXFi product for home entertainment purposes. Do sign up for our mailing list, and we will keep you updated."

Very subtle in their Air product page
"USB MODE FOR PC/Mac: Because of transmission latency issues inherent in all Bluetooth devices, movies transmitted over Bluetooth will have a slight lag in the audio. The SXFI AIR features a USB mode that allows you to enjoy great latency-free Super X-Fi movies on your PC/Mac."

As good as saying no, won't work well.
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: YANG on October 02, 2018, 23:22
I thought SXFI Air is oredi a BT headset variant product? Still need to konnet thru USB?
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: AndrewC on October 03, 2018, 08:55
i have the same question too. Creative says the amp works with devices that output audio over USB. that is why regular BD players and AVRs are ruled out - for now, at least. the PS4 outputs audio over USB but my concern is whether the PS4's USB output can do multichannel or is it restricted to stereo only...

I haven't bought this or anything, but I assumed, this takes a multichannel track and simlulates surround sound via 2-channels... Like for example playback of an .ac3 stream from your mobile phone into a virtual 5.1 over headphones... No?
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: Jagdpanzer on October 03, 2018, 09:15
Do you really think this cheap tic tac box size can device produce real 7.1 or 5.1 immersive surround by plugging into TV or AVR? Even if it can, it will be just virtual surround.

It's like what Darbee does to video.
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: YANG on October 03, 2018, 09:53
What i can picture how the logic works on the device, is:

When the source is from digital stream(thru USB/Optical*/Coaxial* concept of future development)
Digital Mix ==> DAC ==> Multi-Channel decoding ==> DownMix ==> Analogue out

When the source is from analogue input(concept... probably in the future product... like KANTANA soundbar Vers.2)
Analogue input ==> AAC*(*"Analogue Audio Cleanup" for more sonic details) ==> AAP*(*"Analogue Audio Processing") ==> DownMix ==> Amplified Out
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: YANG on October 03, 2018, 09:55
Do you really think this cheap tic tac box size can device produce real 7.1 or 5.1 immersive surround by plugging into TV or AVR? Even if it can, it will be just virtual surround.

It's like what Darbee do to video.
If this device is a hit in the market... U could picture what kind of impact will it have on TV Audio in the future that may affect the sales of Audio hardwares like SoundBars.
Title: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: InnocentBlood on October 03, 2018, 14:08
I haven't bought this or anything, but I assumed, this takes a multichannel track and simlulates surround sound via 2-channels... Like for example playback of an .ac3 stream from your mobile phone into a virtual 5.1 over headphones... No?

Yes that’s the basic idea - this is also what is shown in the CES video for this product. In that video, the audience are experiencing a movie and concert in multi channel speaker setup. They then put on the headphones connected to the Super X-Fi to experience that same soundtrack simulated via the “holographic technology” over the headphones. The test audience couldn’t seem to tell the difference between listening to the speakers and listening to the headphones

That’s what got me excited about this device in the first place. It would be a $200 gamble to discover whether Creative’s new toy is the real deal or not. I’ll find out this Friday


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Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: in1voice on October 03, 2018, 14:44
Read their product guide

"Can I hook up SXFI AMP to my TV?

No. However, we are currently working on a SXFi product for home entertainment purposes. Do sign up for our mailing list, and we will keep you updated."

Very subtle in their Air product page
"USB MODE FOR PC/Mac: Because of transmission latency issues inherent in all Bluetooth devices, movies transmitted over Bluetooth will have a slight lag in the audio. The SXFI AIR features a USB mode that allows you to enjoy great latency-free Super X-Fi movies on your PC/Mac."

As good as saying no, won't work well.

Spending $100 million to create a gadget that can only be connected to USB looks like a bad idea. You can do a great demo at CES, but if the owners of large screen TVs cannot use it, the limited market for the product will not be worth the $100 million spent. 
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: Doggie Howser on October 03, 2018, 14:55
Do you really think this cheap tic tac box size can device produce real 7.1 or 5.1 immersive surround by plugging into TV or AVR? Even if it can, it will be just virtual surround.

It's like what Darbee does to video.

If you think about it, we only listen in “2 channels” however many speakers we have in the room, it ends up reaching two sensors - our ears.

That’s what Smith Research achieved many years ago and it was uncanny how well it worked.

The Creative One seems to work along similar lines but I just struggle to find out how it accepts a 7.1 signal. USB audio limits the ability to handle multi channel to just PCs I think. I don’t even think PS4 supports discrete multi channel audio over USB (only for USB headphone headsets)

If it had an HDMI input or even optical/coax, it would have been completely understandable.

Maybe they are getting ready to launch those other (pricier?) models.

 
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: in1voice on October 03, 2018, 15:33
Smyth Research accepts HDMI and digital outputs. How can Creative miss that?
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: InnocentBlood on October 03, 2018, 17:04
I think this 1st iteration of the Super X-Fi tech is meant for mobile use. that is why they emphasise on the app that's being developed for Android and iOS. I believe the PC and game console connections could be something that they decided to tack on to demonstrate their "headphone holography" technology.

if this tech does take off, then perhaps we may get further iterations which incorporate HDMI and Digital outputs that you can then easily connect to conventional home theatre systems.
Title: Creative's SXFI app now available on Google Play, iOS version to come in 3 weeks
Post by: InnocentBlood on October 04, 2018, 14:09
https://www.hardwarezone.com.sg/tech-news-creatives-sxfi-app-now-available-google-play-ios-version-come-3-weeks

Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: matix on October 05, 2018, 15:37
no one collected yet?

Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: InnocentBlood on October 05, 2018, 17:47
no one collected yet?

I collected mine today. Liked it so much that I ended up getting a 2nd one so that my boy could use it on his PS4 ❤️


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Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: avo on October 05, 2018, 18:21
What's your impression so far? :P
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: Zerstorer on October 05, 2018, 18:30
Once you have it configured with the sxfi app on your phone. You can use your phone without the sxfiamp dongle and substitute your favourite DAC/amp + headphones and still enjoy the processing for local content.

If you want it for streaming sources  such as tidal/Spotify then you need the dongle at all times.

I think most guys will enjoy the sxfi studio setting most.

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Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: dbchoong on October 05, 2018, 18:45
One more week to collection..

I wonder if this will work. Playing movies from PC with some media player with sound output to Super X-Fi.

(https://image.ibb.co/jxbUie/x_fi_tv.jpg)


Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: YANG on October 05, 2018, 18:46
i never come across a laptop/netbook that comes with HDMI INPUT... so far.
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: dbchoong on October 05, 2018, 18:48
The PC plays movie with HDMI output to TV. Sound via Super X-Fi. Can't see why not.
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: FookLai on October 06, 2018, 01:00
I collected mine today. Liked it so much that I ended up getting a 2nd one so that my boy could use it on his PS4 ❤️


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What do you like?

Stereo? Movies?

DAC or headphones?
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: desray on October 06, 2018, 07:21
I still can't figure out how to use this gadget sensibly. If it can't be used with headphone or HDMI outputs from media players, bluray players or AVRs, it will remain a gimmick. Immersive surround sound should be paired with big screens.

Maybe I'm missing something here....
I can think of Android tablets or laptops with headphone jacks. Let's say u have a mkv file with 5.1 mix. Open up with a compatible player and then enjoy the surround sound as if playback from a dedicated 5.1 speaker setup.

I can see this more for gaming like PS 4 console.

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Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: InnocentBlood on October 06, 2018, 16:34
One more week to collection..

I wonder if this will work. Playing movies from PC with some media player with sound output to Super X-Fi.

(https://image.ibb.co/jxbUie/x_fi_tv.jpg)



What's your impression so far? :P

my initial impression - which was listening to the DTS 5.1 track of the Eagles Hell Freezes Over DVD - was positive ☺️👍🎧❤️

this little amp will be ideal for those of us who would like the surround sound experience in a room where it is not practical for us to install a proper 5.1 setup. if you already have a large screen TV with a soundbar and a subwoofer, it is worthwhile getting this little toy if you are able to hook up a computer to your TV's HDMI port. you can then use the computer's USB audio output to plug in this amp.

it was a worthwhile gamble for $200 I think ☺️
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: InnocentBlood on October 06, 2018, 16:36
One more week to collection..

I wonder if this will work. Playing movies from PC with some media player with sound output to Super X-Fi.

yes i can confirm this setup will work. on my macbook pro, i am using this cable adapter to hook up the USB-C output to my TV's HDMI port:

https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MJ1K2AM/A/usb-c-digital-av-multiport-adapter?fnode=8b&fs=f%3Dusbc%26fh%3D4595%252B4891


Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: InnocentBlood on October 06, 2018, 16:41
What do you like?

Stereo? Movies?

DAC or headphones?

I don't intend to listen to 2 channel music using this amp. I do intend to listen to movies and concert DVDs which feature a 5.1 track on this amp. to that end, i think this amp performs as advertised. i do believe this is the next best thing to a proper 5.1 speaker setup - especially in rooms where it is just not practical for you to install a physical 5.1 speaker setup. for $200, it's a pretty good "compromise".

the headphones that I am using this with is the E-MU teak which has very nice bass response. i was able to be swept away by the music that it didn't occur to me to scrutinise what was "missing" from the soundtrack. it was an overall enjoyable experience with no distractions.
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: desray on October 06, 2018, 18:13
I don't intend to listen to 2 channel music using this amp. I do intend to listen to movies and concert DVDs which feature a 5.1 track on this amp. to that end, i think this amp performs as advertised. i do believe this is the next best thing to a proper 5.1 speaker setup - especially in rooms where it is just not practical for you to install a physical 5.1 speaker setup. for $200, it's a pretty good "compromise".

the headphones that I am using this with is the E-MU teak which has very nice bass response. i was able to be swept away by the music that it didn't occur to me to scrutinise what was "missing" from the soundtrack. it was an overall enjoyable experience with no distractions.

Glad you like it...
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: InnocentBlood on October 06, 2018, 20:17
Creative are quite confident that their latest toy will be a hit. So much so that when you go and collect, setup your profile and attend the demo, should you decide that you’re not impressed, you can ask for a refund

At least one guy on HWZ did that yesterday and lived to tell the tale

Another guy took it home and after a few hrs decided to sell it away - and he found an immediate buyer!






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Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: desray on October 06, 2018, 20:44
Creative are quite confident that their latest toy will be a hit. So much so that when you go and collect, setup your profile and attend the demo, should you decide that you’re not impressed, you can ask for a refund

At least one guy on HWZ did that yesterday and lived to tell the tale

Another guy took it home and after a few hrs decided to sell it away - and he found an immediate buyer!






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I'm quite confident Creative have a gem here. The thing forward now is how they intend to market it to push volumes.

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Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: FookLai on October 06, 2018, 22:59
I don't intend to listen to 2 channel music using this amp. I do intend to listen to movies and concert DVDs which feature a 5.1 track on this amp. to that end, i think this amp performs as advertised. i do believe this is the next best thing to a proper 5.1 speaker setup - especially in rooms where it is just not practical for you to install a physical 5.1 speaker setup. for $200, it's a pretty good "compromise".

the headphones that I am using this with is the E-MU teak which has very nice bass response. i was able to be swept away by the music that it didn't occur to me to scrutinise what was "missing" from the soundtrack. it was an overall enjoyable experience with no distractions.

I don't understand the part on why you don't want to use it with stereo. It come with an AKM DAC which I suppose should do a good job on decoding your music from Mac to your headphone too. I read that the DSP can be turned off too so probably for us who like the natural sound will turn it off when listen to stereo. Please give it a try and let us know your experience.

Btw, I remember I read that it come with a free head phone for those who pre order, did you get it? If yes, did you manage to try that as well?
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: francis wu on October 06, 2018, 23:33
I hope it's good enough to replace the Dragonfly on my Surface Pro.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181006/68f11c36ba8ac840e2d3be9ba9c2168a.jpg)

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Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: YANG on October 07, 2018, 01:29
Even with $350 discount..
 The headphone is still considerably very ex...@ $649
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: Zerstorer on October 07, 2018, 10:09
Actually there shouldn't be any concerns for stereo. Once you have had your profile setup and customized. You can just access the processing through the Sxfi app paired to your favourite DAC/headphone combo.

It even works when I pair my handphone to my ifi xdsd + hifiman combo wirelessly through aptx.

The only limitation is that in that way it only works on files stored on your device.

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Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: InnocentBlood on October 07, 2018, 16:13
I don't understand the part on why you don't want to use it with stereo. It come with an AKM DAC which I suppose should do a good job on decoding your music from Mac to your headphone too. I read that the DSP can be turned off too so probably for us who like the natural sound will turn it off when listen to stereo. Please give it a try and let us know your experience.

Btw, I remember I read that it come with a free head phone for those who pre order, did you get it? If yes, did you manage to try that as well?

i am an iOS user so I will probably get access to the app in about 3 weeks time. I am sure the AKM DAC is more than decent but I personally don't like applying DSP to stereo music that is meant to be listened in stereo and not "up-mixed" to multichannel. so even when I install the iOS app, I still don't see myself using it that much.

most of the folks over @ HWZ have been using this amp primarily with lossy, 2 channel music and the reviews have been all over the place.

as for the free headphones, I've not used it yet since I've been using the E-MU Teak with the amp. my boy did try it with his amp on the PS4 and he felt that the sound was better when he compared it to his Razor Kraken. but the Razor was more comfy. the free headphones look quite flimsy to be honest. i wouldn't pay money for this.
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: Zerstorer on October 07, 2018, 16:30
Did you get to go through a process of calibration of test tones with mics inserted in your ears to generate a custom profile or is it just the profile generated from photos?

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Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: InnocentBlood on October 07, 2018, 16:44
Did you get to go through a process of calibration of test tones with mics inserted in your ears to generate a custom profile or is it just the profile generated from photos?

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just the profile generated from photos. for those who managed to rack up 10 and more referrals, they have been invited to generate a custom profile @ Creative HQ. i have no such luck so i hope Creative will extend more invitations to create a custom profile using the mics.
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: acc on October 07, 2018, 17:17
I have collected mine and I really like it for listening to Spotify. Makes the music more natural and akin to listening via speakers witthout the in your head effect. After using the amp for long, turning it off males the music sounds so flat and unnatural.
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: mikeang88 on October 09, 2018, 13:29
I just collected mine yesterday.

The demonstration using the HT setup and then the sxfi device is great! I wouldn't say that the simulated surround really convincing but for what it is worth, it works well enough for the price.

After I left, i tried some movie MKV tracks on my mobile on my way home. It's not that bad .. but do sounded kind of thin using the supplied free headphone. Music sounded bad...

When I got back, I tried it on my HD650 on my pc and it was when it really became enjoyable. The surround was more convincing and the soundstage widen. Using the Atmos track on the 747, it do sounded like a plane flew overhead. Some of the test tracks sounded good too but not all especially the movie one.

When I tried playing music on it again, it just couldn't deliver convincingly. I am used to listening to SACD surround track but this just not the same. Vocals sounded thin, really thin... where the sound stage of instruments sounded like too much of a distant away.

Conclusion : Great for movie.. not so great for music.
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: Zerstorer on October 09, 2018, 15:04
just the profile generated from photos. for those who managed to rack up 10 and more referrals, they have been invited to generate a custom profile @ Creative HQ. i have no such luck so i hope Creative will extend more invitations to create a custom profile using the mics.
That's unfortunate. They should try to extend the service to all owners. The difference in staging between the measured profile and the headmap profile is not subtle.

With the headmap the soundstage is more or less in the same plane as your head.

Only with the measured profile do you get a soundstage thrown out in front of you with depth.

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Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: ralfale on October 09, 2018, 15:13
If buying this mostly for akm dac, which is better than the DAC in phone, is this sensible? Or there are better options out there.  I don't watch movie or play games on my mobile.
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: FookLai on October 09, 2018, 18:30
I just collected mine yesterday.

The demonstration using the HT setup and then the sxfi device is great! I wouldn't say that the simulated surround really convincing but for what it is worth, it works well enough for the price.

After I left, i tried some movie MKV tracks on my mobile on my way home. It's not that bad .. but do sounded kind of thin using the supplied free headphone. Music sounded bad...

When I got back, I tried it on my HD650 on my pc and it was when it really became enjoyable. The surround was more convincing and the soundstage widen. Using the Atmos track on the 747, it do sounded like a plane flew overhead. Some of the test tracks sounded good too but not all especially the movie one.

When I tried playing music on it again, it just couldn't deliver convincingly. I am used to listening to SACD surround track but this just not the same. Vocals sounded thin, really thin... where the sound stage of instruments sounded like too much of a distant away.

Conclusion : Great for movie.. not so great for music.

Did you turn off the DSP when playing music? Meaning just to test the DAC alone. I am interested in what ralfale asked above too.
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: bigtree on October 09, 2018, 19:29
collected mine today. Great for movies. But music is a bit of hit and miss, depending on genre and recording.

Sxfi seems to have an effect on the phasing of the music...or it's just me....

Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: InnocentBlood on October 10, 2018, 10:54
That's unfortunate. They should try to extend the service to all owners. The difference in staging between the measured profile and the headmap profile is not subtle.

With the headmap the soundstage is more or less in the same plane as your head.

Only with the measured profile do you get a soundstage thrown out in front of you with depth.

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yes I agree with you. I believe the experience will be even better if the initial set-up was done using the mic method - like how they did @ CES 2018 - as opposed to the app method - like how they are doing now. however having said that, over @ HWZ forums, only one person who has had the chance to re-calibrate his amp using the mic method has actually bothered to post about his experiences. he has a total of 3 profiles that he can access on his android app - the mic profile, the app profile and another app profile that he just created by himself without attempting to steady the camera properly. his take is that he couldn't really tell the difference between the mic profile and the app profile that was taken properly. and during his testing of various clips, he didn't even realise that he's been listening to the app profile all along. he can definitely tell the difference when he's listening to the other app profile that was not taken properly.

so all this was very interesting to read but then again it was based on the feedback of just one person who actually bothered to share his experiences in a normal, matter of fact way. there was no over enthusiasm here. otherwise he definitely would've raved about the mic profile being the 2nd Coming.

I still have my fingers crossed that Creative would offer the early adopters to set up a 2nd profile using the mic over @ Creative HQ.
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: InnocentBlood on October 10, 2018, 10:56
If buying this mostly for akm dac, which is better than the DAC in phone, is this sensible? Or there are better options out there.  I don't watch movie or play games on my mobile.

yes the AKM DAC in the amp does sound good to my ears - especially when you pair it with the E-MU Teak. if you are in the market to get a DAC for less than SGD200, then this would be a very decent buy. a couple of people have started offloading their amp on Carousell so you might want to head there for a potentially good buy ;)
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: mikeang88 on October 11, 2018, 09:03
Hi,

Yes, i did try that. Without the DSP, the DAC did a good job over my Samsung S8+ one to put out a rather good sounding music. Vocals sounded fuller and the treble sharper. However, noting that you can only hear this if paired with a better headphone like the HD650 or more. If listened over the in-ear, it didn't make much of an improvement. That being said, i could never get my HD650 to work properly without an external amp on my phone.

One drawback, this draws a lot of battery from the phone.



Did you turn off the DSP when playing music? Meaning just to test the DAC alone. I am interested in what ralfale asked above too.
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: Angelo on October 11, 2018, 14:31
Hi guys,

Collected mine yesterday and plug it into my Oneplus 5T while walking back from Creative building to the MRT station and listen all the way from JE to Yishun.

The Super XFi indeed brings the music from into your ears to somewhere infront of you and that is a different kind of experience and I like the presentation this way.

One thing though -- in the App, you can choose whichever headphone or inears they have listed there for a better listening experience but since my inears pair is not listed, the staff advised me to choose " Unknown Inears " in the list. I did play around and chose other inears listed and you can try and see which sound fits your better.

I also agreed with the previous comment that the Amp will consume some energy from your phone and the fact that it is plug into the Type C port there is no way you can use your power bank and charge the phone while playing with the Super Xfi ( maybe can try a Y kind of cable??) . For those who will be on the road whole day, you just have to watch it. I brought it up to the guy who is doing the demo and he agreed that this is something that needs to be work on ( external vendors supplying new cable maybe?)

Just sharing some thoughts....

Regards
Angelo
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: shk on October 12, 2018, 19:51
Collected today. Confirm can use with iOS if using the Lightning to USB camera cable with USB to USB-C cable. They are actually selling the "kit" for iOS there but ran out of the apple cable. Those collecting remember to show them you liked their app in google play store to collect a free ear phone.
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: avo on October 13, 2018, 09:19
Used the Sxfi for a few days. It's great for watching movies. The surround effect is exceptional. For music listening, I don't like it. Too much reverb, and slight time smearing.
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: desray on October 13, 2018, 11:00
Seems like the general consensus here with this product is good for movies more than music...Interesting.
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: InnocentBlood on October 13, 2018, 11:04
Seems like the general consensus here with this product is good for movies more than music...Interesting.

Yes that’s true. A lot of disgruntled users on HWZ forum found out about this the hard way



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Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: desray on October 13, 2018, 11:08
Yes that’s true. A lot of disgruntled users on HWZ forum found out about this the hard way



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Perhaps good for gaming console and PC gaming as well.

Interesting in the sense that headphones usually falls into 2 categories. Audiophile trying to get the best and with this Product that has such a powerful audiophile grade DAC on bird and yet perform subpar for music listening. The other group is of course the gamers.


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Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: dbchoong on October 13, 2018, 11:16
Just got mine yesterday. The group demo with the EMu Teaks - that was pretty awesome. With that demo, you know that the SXFi is quite a piece of technology.

So, spent a couple of hours trying out movies, music at home with my PC using the free Aurvana SE, Aurvana Trio in-ear phones and my old Sennheiser HD429s.

Like many others reviewed - the SXFi plays great for movies. The bass was exceptional. I can feel the deep bass rumbles from the movie Cold Skin. The bass was so powerful, I could literally feel the vibrations around my ears. And although the bass was so powerful, it was always in control without any distortions. Surround effects are good too.

Tried the Dolby Atmos helicopter demo - the sound of the helicopter flying around me was not that well defined. It didn't feel it was circling above and around me like my Atmos setup does. But in the group demo at Creative, surround sound was very good (with the tracks played). So maybe with better headphones like the Emu Teaks, it might perform this test well.

Music playback - again bass-wise, it is very good. Maybe I'm not used to it yet - but the vocals seemed to have lost focus. Some tracks OK, some not so good.

So, after a few hours of testing - for music - not that good. For movies - excellent for times when you want to enjoy movies with personal surround sound experience. But it won't replace my existing home theater Atmos AVR+speakers setup (yet). But considering it's $200, the SXFi is excellent for the money. I think I'll use it the most on my PC watching movies when I can't blast it loud (maybe late at night) on my usual home theater.

Edit (14 Oct): Just realised when I was testing the Helicopter demo track, I accidentally switch the Windows sound setting to Audio channels to Stereo instead of 7.1 Surround. Today I retried it with settings at 7.1, the surround sound of the helicopter is pretty good!! Impressive.
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: desray on October 13, 2018, 11:30
Just got mine yesterday. The group demo with the EMu Teaks - that was pretty awesome. With that demo, you know that the SXFi is quite a piece of technology.

So, spent a couple of hours trying out movies, music at home with my PC using the free Aurvana SE, Aurvana Trio in-ear phones and my old Sennheiser HD429s.

Like many others reviewed - the SXFi plays great for movies. The bass was exceptional. I can feel the deep bass rumbles from the movie Cold Skin. The bass was so powerful, I could literally feel the vibrations around my ears. And although the bass was so powerful, it was always in control without any distortions. Surround effects are good too.

Tried the Dolby Atmos helicopter demo - the sound of the helicopter flying around me was not that well defined. It didn't feel it was circling above and around me like my Atmos setup does. But in the group demo at Creative, surround sound was very good (with the tracks played). So maybe with better headphones like the Emu Teaks, it might perform this test well.

Music playback - again bass-wise, it is very good. Maybe I'm not used to it yet - but the vocals seemed to have lost focus. Some tracks OK, some not so good.

So, after a few hours of testing - for music - not that good. For movies - excellent for times when you want to enjoy movies with personal surround sound experience. But it won't replace my existing home theater Atmos AVR+speakers setup (yet). But considering it's $200, the SXFi is excellent for the money. I think I'll use it the most on my PC watching movies when I can't blast it loud (maybe late at night) on my usual home theater.



I see...thanks for the summary and 100% agreed with you that for a $200 piece of gadget that can simulate multi-channel surround movie sound experience and did it rather "convincingly"...this is definitely a winner in my books. Well done Creative!


Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: avo on October 13, 2018, 11:38
I watched Netflix's Haunting of Hill House with Sxfi on a  tablet. Even with a 2.0 audio playback, the various sound effects are quite convincing.
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: francis wu on October 15, 2018, 17:46
Just collected and on the bus listening to my music files thru" the Sx-fi on, one word, lousy.  Must better when u turn it off.  Of course, YMMV.
Will test it when I m home on movie files.

Sexy8

Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: InnocentBlood on October 15, 2018, 17:48
I watched Netflix's Haunting of Hill House with Sxfi on a  tablet. Even with a 2.0 audio playback, the various sound effects are quite convincing.

If you have the Netflix app on a Windows 10 computer, you will be able to experience the same title in 5.1


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Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: FookLai on October 15, 2018, 17:50
Just collected and on the bus listening to my music files thru" the Sx-fi on, one word, lousy.  Must better when u turn it off.  Of course, YMMV.
Will test it when I m home on movie files.

Sexy8



Bro, after turning off the effect can it compare to your dragonfly?
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: francis wu on October 15, 2018, 18:18
Too short a time to compare but based on what I have heard , the Dragon Fly is slightly better...more cohesive and imaging is better.
With Sx-fi on, the sound is smeared, too airy, cohesiveness collapsed and imaging is poor...YMMV.

Sexy8
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: FookLai on October 15, 2018, 18:26
I was hoping it can be better with Dragonfly since it come with AKM choose, but too bad. I haven't collected mine yet, not sure can process refund or not.
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: francis wu on October 15, 2018, 18:43
Bro, if the HT sounds as good as the demo, then it will be worth the $200 investment. 
Have a go and maybe you will like the stereo without the sxfi on, dont forget audio is very subjective.  Listen to your ears not others.

Sexy8

Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: Jagdpanzer on October 15, 2018, 20:03
It's not fair to compare Audioquest dragonfly with the Sxfi. The Dragonfly is a purist DAC developed for audiophiles who demand the best stereo playback.

I collected mine today and attended the Sxfi demo today and the music demos were presented last. This implies that this gizmo is targeted at HT and gaming audio playback.

I tried a few movie files and somehow, I find the effect a tad less "intimate" . I played some Sportify music and I don't like the enhancement. The entire presentation sounds a bit smeared and vocal is thin.

Too short a time to compare but based on what I have heard , the Dragon Fly is slightly better...more cohesive and imaging is better.
With Sx-fi on, the sound is smeared, too airy, cohesiveness collapsed and imaging is poor...YMMV.

Sexy8


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Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: YANG on October 16, 2018, 09:17
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Lobang Share Lobang for iPhone users!
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: FookLai on October 16, 2018, 13:54
It's not fair to compare Audioquest dragonfly with the Sxfi. The Dragonfly is a purist DAC developed for audiophiles who demand the best stereo playback.

I collected mine today and attended the Sxfi demo today and the music demos were presented last. This implies that this gizmo is targeted at HT and gaming audio playback.

I tried a few movie files and somehow, I find the effect a tad less "intimate" . I played some Sportify music and I don't like the enhancement. The entire presentation sounds a bit smeared and vocal is thin.

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I believe turning on the enhancement for music is a no no. How is the sound quality if you turn it off?

I have dragonfly myself as a DAC for my phone, this sXfi interest me because it has a AKM chipset which I initially thought will give a better sound to the music. But now it looks like apparently not.

For movies I have dedicated room so not require this setup, I seldom watch movies on my small phone screen as well.
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: BadEnglish on October 16, 2018, 14:04
...
I collected mine today and attended the Sxfi demo today and the music demos were presented last. This implies that this gizmo is targeted at HT and gaming audio playback.

...

It can reproduce 5 channels faithfully , but not 2 channels ?
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: InnocentBlood on October 16, 2018, 15:05
I believe the amp can still give you the "listening to speakers" sensation when you are listening to material that is originally encoded in 2 channel. however I suspect this may not work 100% on mobile devices. this may work better on the computer where you will be able to explicitly specify in the amp settings that you are feeding it material that is originally encoded in 2 channel and which the amp will then reproduce over the headphones. for a better listening experience, it helps if you select the correct headphone profile.
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: Zerstorer on October 16, 2018, 15:21
I find that it works well in throwing a soundstage. Provided you are one of those have a measured profile rather than the headmap one.

But soundstaging aside, one weakness of the measured profile is that it inherits the acoustics and characteristics of their showroom which is the target simulated environment.

What you get is a lifelike copy of their room and elac setup over headphones, which may not be good enough for some of our users here who may not be impressed with the rendering or timbre of what is considered an entry level speaker setup.

IMO, if they upgrade their reference equipment and have a properly treated room for the calibration, it should give a pretty good result.

Even for the photo based head map, there seems to be a little too much reverb added. Hopefully they will introduce a range of settings for users to tweak the profile.

As for the sxfiamp as a standard headphone DAC/amp I find it can drive my hifiman mass drop edition  better than my colleagues Fiio x5, which means it pretty decent.

However it's not as sweet or subtle as my ifi xdsd, especially so when balanced cables are used.



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Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: francis wu on October 16, 2018, 16:57
I believe turning on the enhancement for music is a no no. How is the sound quality if you turn it off?

I have dragonfly myself as a DAC for my phone, this sXfi interest me because it has a AKM chipset which I initially thought will give a better sound to the music. But now it looks like apparently not.

For movies I have dedicated room so not require this setup, I seldom watch movies on my small phone screen as well.

Bro, just to let you know that running thru' my PC and playing Flac files, the sound is a little warm, smooth and the base is really good (better than the Dragonfly) with the Sxfi off.  So have a listen before you decide, you may like the sound too.  Cheers
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: Jagdpanzer on October 16, 2018, 17:22
I cannot recall whether Creative use notebook or mobile devices for demo in the theater. I tried the demo on their notebooks at the counter and for movies mkv and flac files, they sound pretty decent
using their $149 Creative earbuds.

So far I've tested music only on Spotify app in mobile phone
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: FookLai on October 16, 2018, 17:42
Bro, just to let you know that running thru' my PC and playing Flac files, the sound is a little warm, smooth and the base is really good (better than the Dragonfly) with the Sxfi off.  So have a listen before you decide, you may like the sound too.  Cheers

Thanks Bro, I shall give it a try then.
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: francis wu on October 17, 2018, 11:41
Good news, I tried on my Zidoo and it works.  Wow, now I can watch late in the night without disturbing anybody although it cannot beat the real physical HT presentation, its a great deal for me.  Now I have to get a 3 meter USB C to A male data cable so that I can watch from my couch. :)
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: InnocentBlood on October 17, 2018, 11:59
Good news, I tried on my Zidoo and it works.  Wow, now I can watch late in the night without disturbing anybody although it cannot beat the real physical HT presentation, its a great deal for me.  Now I have to get a 3 meter USB C to A male data cable so that I can watch from my couch. :)

I don’t have the zidoo- I only have the egreat A10 and the Nvidia shield. Can you confirm that the zidoo usb audio output can do multichannel and not just output in stereo?


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Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: francis wu on October 17, 2018, 12:30
I m out now to get the data cable and will get back to all on whether it output 5.1 or stereo later.  Just tested a short clip from 'Criminal' awhile ago and it was atmospheric and gunshots and explosions were solid with good thumping bass, already a big bonus to me.
I will search for the flying dagger file to confirm 7.1 output later when I get back.

Sexy8

Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: dbchoong on October 17, 2018, 12:39
It works on my Chromebook too. So, I guess all Android-type devices seem to work.

Hope there's a way for multi SXFi users one day - all watching same movie like in the group demo.
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: InnocentBlood on October 17, 2018, 13:10
It works on my Chromebook too. So, I guess all Android-type devices seem to work.

Hope there's a way for multi SXFi users one day - all watching same movie like in the group demo.


I do not own a Chromebook so I don't know how Netflix behaves on a Chromebook. Do you install a Netflix app - like how you can do so in Windows 10, thereby getting 5.1 sound - or do you continue to access Netflix on the Chrome web browser, whereby you are still limited to Stereo output?

Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: sevenz on October 18, 2018, 17:58
I m out now to get the data cable and will get back to all on whether it output 5.1 or stereo later.  Just tested a short clip from 'Criminal' awhile ago and it was atmospheric and gunshots and explosions were solid with good thumping bass, already a big bonus to me.
I will search for the flying dagger file to confirm 7.1 output later when I get back.

Sexy8

Wow thanks Francis for the heads up for this. If it can, this will be AWESOME for HT users without a PC.
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: YANG on October 19, 2018, 18:29
http://www.youtube.com/v/j7aKrD2IVqs&fs=1
 ;D Lai Lai Lai... TRY TRY TRY!!!
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: francis wu on October 19, 2018, 21:32
Good news, I tried on my Zidoo and it works.  Wow, now I can watch late in the night without disturbing anybody although it cannot beat the real physical HT presentation, its a great deal for me.  Now I have to get a 3 meter USB C to A male data cable so that I can watch from my couch. :)

Sorry guys, after playing around with the settings in my Zidoo, the USB output is in stereo and not multichannel.  However, with the HT button turned on, the enhanced stereo effect is still pretty effective with good atmospheric feel and the bass remains solid and thumping.  Disappointed but happy at the same time that I can watch big screen movies late into the night without disturbing anybody and enjoying the enhanced sound that I find satisfying.
Tried miracasting from my Surface Pro to the TV but somehow, the former cannot achieve a connection, maybe software or hardware incompatibility so I am going to ask for tech support from Microsoft tomorrow to find a solution! Cheers and enjoy your Sxfi :)
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: bigbird on October 20, 2018, 09:25
Maybe my expectation is too high before trying out the Creative Super X-Fi, but quite disappointed after getting one for myself. I thought it can produce those kind of movie sound experience like I am watching action movie in Golden Village Vivocity Hall 1, but I do not feel close to that experience when using the X-Fi. My main complaint is the dialogue in the movie. I get so used to the dialogue to be spot on in the center in typical HT setup or in cinema, but in X-Fi I feel the dialogue seems to lose the clarity and sound diffused. Second complaint is the surround effect is not as good as I expected that I don't feel the objects are moving behind my head or above me comparing to real HT setup or cinema. Not sure if it is my headphone not so good. I also tried the free headphone given by Creative. I configured SXFI Speakers as 7.1 mode in my PC as learnt during the demo session.
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: InnocentBlood on October 20, 2018, 11:56
Sorry guys, after playing around with the settings in my Zidoo, the USB output is in stereo and not multichannel.  However, with the HT button turned on, the enhanced stereo effect is still pretty effective with good atmospheric feel and the bass remains solid and thumping.  Disappointed but happy at the same time that I can watch big screen movies late into the night without disturbing anybody and enjoying the enhanced sound that I find satisfying.
Tried miracasting from my Surface Pro to the TV but somehow, the former cannot achieve a connection, maybe software or hardware incompatibility so I am going to ask for tech support from Microsoft tomorrow to find a solution! Cheers and enjoy your Sxfi :)

thanks Francis for taking the time and effort to test the media player USB audio output. i was back @ creative HQ on wednesday to do the in-ear mic calibration for myself and my boy. we met Mr Lee Teck Chee and i had a whole bunch of questions and feedback for him. one of the things that he confirmed is that most media players - especially ones which run on android - are only limited to stereo via the USB audio output. they also have a nvidia shield in their testing lab.

my positive experiences with the amp continue. there is NO day and night difference between the calibration using the android app and the in-ear mic calibration, as reported by others online. from my personal hearing, what I can make out is a better "speaker positioning effect" using the in-ear mic calibration whereby i can better sense where the sounds are coming from, especially in a 5.1 setup. i still have not played any material which are originally encoded in 7.1 channels since getting this amp. i've just been testing this exclusively using material that was originally encoded in 5.1 channels.

for those of us who feel very underwhelmed by the amp, i would recommend that you ensure your sound settings are configured properly in the OS level. creative have updated their FAQ where they explicitly state that if you are playing material which is originally encoded in stereo then please set your OS sound setting to stereo. if you are playing material which is originally encoded in 5.1 channels, then please set your OS sound setting to 5.1 . the amp is just not intelligent enough to automatically detect what you are feeding it. you need to manually specify in the config page of your OS. also, using the matching headphone profile helps a lot. for myself i am using the E-MU Teak.

most of the folks who seem unimpressed with this device continue to listen to lossy stereo sources such as spotify and youtube. especially with youtube, you never know what resolution you are listening to. i believe youtube only contains audio in stereo - not 5.1 . there are proper online resources with demo material encoded in surround sound in the proper resolution such as https://www.demolandia.net and http://www.2l.no/hires/ - i would recommend you download the free clips from there and test your amp with it. if you still feel underwhelmed then i hope you still qualify for the refund period :)
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: francis wu on October 20, 2018, 19:14
Personally I like the Sxfi especially when playing 5.1/7.1 on my Surface Pro using Kodi.  The overall multi channels presentation although lacking in wide soundstage is convincing enough compared to the real McCoy.  I have never enjoyed watching movies on PC till now!  It has entertained me the last couple of nights and kept me thrilled and wanting more.  The enhanced stereo thru' my Zidoo is still acceptable, losing the surrounds but enveloping me with clean and atmospheric sound.  I will be getting a Miracast dongle for my Sammy 1st gen 4K TV in the next couple of days and try out the casting from my PC to the TV, finger crossing for a successful link
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181020/7119892126e9f602287985ec5dd6fa51.jpg)

Sexy8

Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: francis wu on October 20, 2018, 21:15
Similar HT output from my S8.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181020/35c41b97d4db8749b29df90001286149.jpg)

Sexy8

Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: francis wu on October 20, 2018, 22:27
Managed to screen mirrored my S8 to the TV but color tone a little flat, less sharp and some stuttering in fast motion scenes.  A plus is that I get HT sound from the phone.  Don't think I will go this route... Sigh! (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181020/091f70b138dc18276ccfc0cc7e56c91a.jpg)

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Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: dankoo on October 26, 2018, 06:10
so if I were to play a 4K disc, how do I connect it? I dont think there's USB audio from 4K players right?
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: bigbird on October 26, 2018, 06:46
so if I were to play a 4K disc, how do I connect it? I dont think there's USB audio from 4K players right?

No way to connect to your bluray or 4k player. What I am doing now I play my bluray disc using external USB 3.0 bluray burner with software such as powerdvd on my laptop.
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: InnocentBlood on October 26, 2018, 12:49
No way to connect to your bluray or 4k player. What I am doing now I play my bluray disc using external USB 3.0 bluray burner with software such as powerdvd on my laptop.

does PowerDVD allow you to play all-region discs like how VLC allows you to do so?
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: dankoo on October 29, 2018, 15:41
No way to connect to your bluray or 4k player. What I am doing now I play my bluray disc using external USB 3.0 bluray burner with software such as powerdvd on my laptop.

thanks...so i gather its the same for Android tv box? no USB audio?

Like that its seems quite limited usage for HT purpose...
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: dbchoong on October 29, 2018, 17:37
Tested on Chromebook and also my Zidoo X9S. Both works.
For Chromebook, I couldn't find setting on whether output is stereo or multi-channel. High chance it's stereo.
For Zidoo X9S, the USB output is stereo.
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: francis wu on October 29, 2018, 17:41
Well, Windows 10 output in 7.1 :)
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: InnocentBlood on October 29, 2018, 17:53
Well, Windows 10 output in 7.1 :)

Same for MacOS X as well. The Netflix app for windows 10 also outputs 5.1 sound.


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Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: sevenz on October 29, 2018, 19:11
Tested on Chromebook and also my Zidoo X9S. Both works.
For Chromebook, I couldn't find setting on whether output is stereo or multi-channel. High chance it's stereo.
For Zidoo X9S, the USB output is stereo.

Ooooo nice. How does it sound on the zidoo?
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: francis wu on October 29, 2018, 19:45
Although it’s enhanced stereo from the Zidoo, the sound is atmospheric and enjoyable to me, love the bass ;D....ymmv :)
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: ralfale on October 29, 2018, 20:45
Based on feedback, I gathered for pure music usage, dragonfly red is better ?
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: sevenz on October 29, 2018, 22:08
Although it’s enhanced stereo from the Zidoo, the sound is atmospheric and enjoyable to me, love the bass ;D....ymmv :)

thanks for sharing! :) Still thinking about whether to get 1! Nowadays with baby at home, really hard to have a movie with my speakers man.
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: InnocentBlood on October 29, 2018, 23:37
Based on feedback, I gathered for pure music usage, dragonfly red is better ?

If you want a good value for money DAC in a thumb drive form factor then the AQ DF Red is a good choice. I own it myself The SXFI amp on the other hand is more than just a DAC. Plus it is also cheaper than the AQ DF Red.
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: bigbird on October 30, 2018, 06:26
does PowerDVD allow you to play all-region discs like how VLC allows you to do so?


Not too sure about that as I only have either Bluray from US region or region free which is mostly concert disc.
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: InnocentBlood on October 31, 2018, 14:44
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/creatives-super-x-fi-us-sales-to-begin-after-successful-singapore-launch-with-over-99-satisfied-customers-300739173.html

I'm personally looking fwd to what the head-fi folks have to say about this :)
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: francis wu on November 12, 2018, 19:15
Finally managed to project movies from my Surface Pro to the TV....simply connect the mini display - hdmi adapter- hdmi cable to the hdmi input port of the TV....and voila!  7.1 output from my Surface Pro using Kodi  media player.  All you need is either a long USB A to USB C or a long HDMI cable for sofa viewing position...enjoy(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181112/19814748dcc5d9f00f5a7945761feb14.jpg)

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Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: YANG on November 22, 2018, 12:27
LaiLiao LaiLiaoz!!!
http://www.youtube.com/v/MHngxbOoEHw&fs=1
...from TAIWAN, challenger LaiLiaoz!!!
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: alamakazam on November 22, 2018, 14:03
http://www.youtube.com/v/K9bTD17CXt0&fs=1


tomorrow if got bf offer... hooting 1

is cheaper on amazon btw
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: YANG on November 22, 2018, 16:16
http://www.youtube.com/v/8xPYTXmjInc&fs=1
CREATIVE can feel the IMPACT boh?  ;D
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: francis wu on December 09, 2018, 20:03
Demo room available at Plaza Singapura 4th floor. ...(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181209/8636158de80f2af7c6af2003b2bde1e0.jpg)

Sexy8

Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: YANG on December 09, 2018, 23:23
I passes by the showroom a few times when I was in Plaza Sing. Their operation time machiam not so friendly to regular office time workers who knock off from work wants to audition their products ley...
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: YANG on January 04, 2019, 08:27
BT HeadPhone chut liaoz!
https://sg.sxfi.com/products/sxfi-air
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: InnocentBlood on January 11, 2019, 16:13
this sounds promising:

https://www.straitstimes.com/tech/wearables/ces-2019-creative-shows-off-more-of-its-super-x-fi-offerings?fbclid=IwAR0i6A2QzQ7auqk14O9MUi4uQSMfNXRTMEHDuiqV-9XYnF-Hpahh687VA2g
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: InnocentBlood on January 12, 2019, 01:02
A sneak peek....

https://www.hardwarezone.com.sg/feature-sneak-peek-creative-sxfi-theater-headphones-and-creative-sxfi-tv
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: YANG on February 18, 2019, 23:18
The SXFi amp just got a price cut. Now $139 @ Popular Bookshop w/o headset of any displayed models.
Title: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: desray on February 19, 2019, 06:30
The SXFi amp just got a price cut. Now $139 @ Popular Bookshop w/o headset of any displayed models.

Yep. Saw that at the popular bookstore at east point mall last wed. Not selling well?


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Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: YANG on February 19, 2019, 08:25
initially the selling price was $219。
however,if U had noticed,the Aurvana LiveHeadset+Amp bundle sells@ $199。(last Tuesdaywhen i was@ NEX,there were even cockup of buying the headset,gets the Amp for free tag pasted on the PKG!)

so。。。i'm not surprise@ the price cut is to justify “buy bundle pack gets U better bargain”.
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: InnocentBlood on February 20, 2019, 09:51
for those of us who have had success in getting surround sound from the SXFI amp when connected to the Nvidia shield, could you share some details as to what apps on the Nvidia shield works for you? in my case, I can get surround sound from the Netflix app but not amazon prime video. also when I try to play back mp4 files (1080p video encoded with 5.1 audio) using Kodi, I can't get sound out of the SXFI amp either.

if anybody knows how to get the above scenarios working, please share here. Creative's support for the SXFI amp doesn't extend to getting it to work with the Nvidia shield  :(
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: YANG on March 10, 2019, 22:53
All I can send to Creative is my best wishes on their sales on their SXFi Air C or wireless product. These with the integrated amp models totally... Too flat sounding without engaging of the app for effects as well as tonal qualities.
Title: Re: Creative Super X-Fi 3D Immersive Headset for movies/games - Pride of Singapore
Post by: dbchoong on March 15, 2019, 15:37
Still enjoying myself watching movies on my PC with the SXFi amp + Aurvana Trio earphones. :D