Post by: petetherock on September 16, 2016, 23:51
FAQS:
http://watershade.net/wmcclain/UDP-203-faq.html#will-i-need-new-hdmi-cables
Reviews:
http://peteswrite.blogspot.sg/2016/12/oppo-udp-203-review.html
First news of this are out:
http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1474013250 (http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1474013250)
(http://www.flatpanelshd.com/pictures/oppoudp203-2l.jpg)
(http://www.flatpanelshd.com/pictures/oppoudp203-1l.jpg)
Post by: petetherock on September 16, 2016, 23:51
Post by: petetherock on September 16, 2016, 23:52
Post by: SLT on September 17, 2016, 11:39
Post by: crazysurfer on September 17, 2016, 13:41
Post by: matty on September 17, 2016, 13:59
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Post by: petetherock on September 17, 2016, 17:20
Is this the entry level model, like the BDP-103, and are there other upcoming models?IMHO, there will always be more models in future, but the first is the KISS model - keep it simple, safe and make sure it works well.
Oppo players have evolved, from being merely packed with features, but won't last that long ala Oppo 83's power supply, to solid well built models with good parts ala BDP 105. This should take good things from their parts bin, and make a solid player, but let's wait for the proper specs first, and see what goes into this.
But I think it should be better made than the Samsung.
Post by: petetherock on September 18, 2016, 20:05
https://www.facebook.com/Audioholics/videos/vb.345267822164/10154411289507165/?type=3&theater
Plus some crystal balling..
Post by: petetherock on September 20, 2016, 08:26
http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Oppo/Ultra_HD/4K/hdr/ultra-hd-bluray-player/price/cedia-2016/oppo-readies-udp203-4k-ultra-hd-bluray-player-for-499/35160
Post by: wizardofoz on September 20, 2016, 17:51
http://www.oppodigital.com/uhd/
http://www.cnet.com/products/oppo-udp-203/preview/ (http://www.cnet.com/products/oppo-udp-203/preview/)
Post by: Doggie Howser on September 20, 2016, 18:28
Post by: wizardofoz on September 20, 2016, 18:53
Lack of the Darbee feature is no big deal as I'm not sure it ever really gained that much momentum or everyone would be using it.
I hope they keep the streaming options over LAN too
Post by: SLT on September 20, 2016, 20:17
Still no word on 3D and DVDA/SACD?It will playback DVDA/SACD, as well as 3D discs
Post by: Doggie Howser on September 20, 2016, 20:29
Post by: petetherock on September 21, 2016, 00:38
It will playback DVDA/SACD, as well as 3D discsBut no Dolby Vision?
Let's hope it can come with a region free mod.. cheers
Post by: petetherock on September 21, 2016, 09:50
Post by: wizardofoz on September 21, 2016, 10:11
Post by: wizardofoz on September 22, 2016, 02:18
Post by: petetherock on September 23, 2016, 21:45
https://www.avforums.com/news/video-oppo-udp-203-uhd-blu-ray-player-and-sonica-wireless-speakers.12976
Post by: petetherock on October 22, 2016, 07:41
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=zh-CN&u=http://www.jd-bbs.com/av/59540-1.html&prev=search
Post by: Warlord9 on November 13, 2016, 17:20
Post by: Tiktokape on November 13, 2016, 18:56
You are better off with Media Player if you require cracked cinavia.
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Post by: petetherock on November 13, 2016, 19:09
I wouldn't buy a premier product for such purposes.
Anyway there's no news of a local launch yet :'(
Post by: Doggie Howser on November 14, 2016, 14:05
I'm getting 4 for the store
Post by: WIM on November 14, 2016, 15:10
Post by: Doggie Howser on November 14, 2016, 20:11
Post by: wizardofoz on November 14, 2016, 21:12
Post by: wyvern on November 15, 2016, 09:48
Post by: Hillviewer on November 21, 2016, 23:35
Post by: ahduck on November 22, 2016, 11:23
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Post by: Tiktokape on November 22, 2016, 11:54
Post by: landis1 on November 22, 2016, 12:50
Post by: petetherock on November 22, 2016, 12:56
come on guys, for discussion on hardware, not for indication of MO interest. ;)+1
I am sure the MO section will be a better place for deals. Let's save this thread for technical discussions, cheers.
Post by: petetherock on November 23, 2016, 09:09
https://www.facebook.com/OPPOdigitalsg/
It's coming :)
Post by: pda_lover on November 23, 2016, 09:13
https://www.facebook.com/SLT-Technologies-735282653252059/Tempting....any indication on local price?
https://www.facebook.com/OPPOdigitalsg/
It's coming :)
Post by: petetherock on November 23, 2016, 09:23
Plus a free disc too :)
Delivery by year end.
Post by: DJQ on November 23, 2016, 09:46
another way would be prices stay the same, but you get different freebies. that way general community willing to accept the difference cause the main determinant is the price.
Post by: dXter on November 23, 2016, 10:18
Post by: wizardofoz on November 23, 2016, 10:19
For those that don't or can't make it to the show the mo is your next best bet.
Post by: ahduck on November 23, 2016, 11:18
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Post by: DJQ on November 23, 2016, 11:32
If pre order is only allow at isse, then we already lose $15.
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:P :P :P spot on. unless they give $15 worth of HMDI cable... ;D
Post by: freddyhappy on November 23, 2016, 14:59
It is free trade here in SG, it is SLT business, why should we restrict them how to operate their business? No offence to anyone I am just finding it weird. If given to me there is no discount in the show to attract me to buy, they might lose one customer (or many customer) due to that during the show. I might or might not buy from them in the future, it might end up they could/could not cover their loss in show.
Post by: Wilber on November 23, 2016, 15:36
Post by: petetherock on November 23, 2016, 16:08
No one wants to be on the losing end, and find out they paid more.
Even for Black Friday sales, some will find that the BR they bought earlier is now a lot cheaper. But that's life and why we have sales.
In the same vein, some will pay less because they made a decision, eg the 101 MO, and others will pay more later on when they decide it's time for them to commit.
The early birds may find they need some firmware updates, or lack region free mods, but in return they get a discount. I think that's how the free market works.
Cheers
Post by: Doggie Howser on November 23, 2016, 17:18
Post by: DizzyD on November 23, 2016, 17:34
Hence I guess folks here want the oppo offers to be fair and square.
Post by: SLT on November 25, 2016, 00:10
9xx, but for the show I think there will be a special price.
Plus a free disc too :)
Delivery by year end.
Pre-order at S$899, includes free 4K movie disc, delivery expected December this year (if no shipment delays)
Post by: cowdragon on November 25, 2016, 01:55
How to pre-order? Must be at the show? What's the free 4K disc title? Estimated delivery is which date of Dec?
Post by: bigtree on November 25, 2016, 11:30
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Post by: freddyhappy on November 25, 2016, 12:02
can check this pre order unit is region free?or will have region free hacks later?
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+1
Post by: wizardofoz on November 25, 2016, 12:40
Post by: SLT on November 25, 2016, 13:16
can check this pre order unit is region free?or will have region free hacks later?
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Later
Post by: SLT on November 25, 2016, 13:19
Hi,You can pre-order at show, or just PM us, up to you. Delivery sometime in December, as soon as they're shipped out. For free 4K disc, we are still deciding, will announce once decided.
How to pre-order? Must be at the show? What's the free 4K disc title? Estimated delivery is which date of Dec?
Post by: wizardofoz on November 25, 2016, 14:27
http://www.xtremeplace.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=242476
Post by: planet on November 26, 2016, 07:38
Post by: SLT on November 26, 2016, 08:49
What is the specification for this UDP?Will be published soon on Oppo official website
Post by: SLT on November 26, 2016, 08:52
1+. I am interested but much see the sepc first especially the DAC chip.AKM AK4458VN DAC chip: (http://www.akm.com/akm/en/product/datasheet1/?partno=AK4458VN)
And Audio Processing Menu of UDP-203 now offers 5 choices of digital filter characteristics for Audio DAC to modify Audio Output according to your preference/taste:
Sharp Rolloff
Short-Delay Sharp
Slow-Rolloff
Short-Delay Slow
Super Slow
Post by: jonchew on November 26, 2016, 09:23
Post by: SLT on November 26, 2016, 09:26
Post by: petetherock on November 27, 2016, 18:35
http://audioquality.it/oppo-udp-203-eu-lettore-blu-ray-ultra-hd.html
Post by: desray on November 27, 2016, 22:45
Post by: planet on December 01, 2016, 20:49
Post by: petetherock on December 05, 2016, 22:57
Post by: ronildoq on December 06, 2016, 18:43
I wouldnt hesitate to get one if Aiborg had a HDMI 2.0a version cable available.
Post by: wizardofoz on December 07, 2016, 00:56
Post by: ronildoq on December 07, 2016, 07:36
http://www.hdmi.org/manufacturer/hdmi_2_0/
Post by: wizardofoz on December 07, 2016, 10:03
Please remember to send to Oppo Mo user name not me/mine
I would like to have all payments completed by this Friday
The mo closes at 23:59:59 tonight
Post by: Tiktokape on December 07, 2016, 16:21
Post by: kimurastanley on December 07, 2016, 19:57
Post by: petetherock on December 11, 2016, 23:13
(http://www.avsforum.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1822441&d=1481455117)
Post by: jonchew on December 12, 2016, 08:03
Haven't received any news on my preorder
Post by: ahduck on December 13, 2016, 11:40
http://oppodigital.com/blu-ray-udp-203/
Alot of discussion on 203.
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/149-blu-ray-players/2676801-official-oppo-udp-203-owner-s-thread.html
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Post by: ahduck on December 13, 2016, 12:04
I wonder receive date can be 16/12/16?
I'm like a kid eagerly awaiting for Christmas present..
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Post by: petetherock on December 13, 2016, 12:37
Post by: wizardofoz on December 13, 2016, 13:52
not sure if this link will work
Post by: ckt on December 13, 2016, 14:14
Post by: SLT on December 13, 2016, 16:17
By Press Release on December 12, 2016
Award-winning universal players reach a new level of clarity
MENLO PARK, California – December 12, 2016 – OPPO Digital today announced that the new UDP-203 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray Disc player is ready for release. A successor to the award-winning BDP-103 series universal Blu-ray Disc player, the UDP-203 is the latest product released by the renowned manufacturer of high performance audio video products.
The OPPO UDP-203 supports the playback of 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray Discs. Packing a resolution of up to 3840 x 2160 pixels, UHD Blu-ray delivers four times the pixels of Full HD Blu-ray. The UDP-203 also supports High Dynamic Range (HDR) and Wide Color Gamut. The enhanced resolution, refined contrast, greater brightness, and expanded color produce stunning video with unparalleled clarity and detail.
The UDP-203 combines the latest technology with OPPO’s many years of experience in delivering high quality video and audio. A customized quad-core video decoder/processor integrates OPPO’s advanced video decoding, processing and optimization expertise. A high-precision, well-balanced laser optical disc loader ensures smooth and reliable playback of all types of disc media. The player features two HDMI outputs – an HDMI 2.0 port for connecting to the latest UHD TVs, projectors and A/V receivers, and an HDMI 1.4 audio port for connecting to older A/V receivers.
The design of the UDP-203 focuses on quality playback and universal compatibility with multiple disc and file formats. In addition to the latest UHD Blu-ray, the UDP-203 supports regular Blu-ray, Blu-ray 3D, DVD, DVD-Audio, SACD, and audio CD. The UDP-203 is equipped with two USB 3.0 ports on the back and another USB port on the front. Users can play video, music and photos from USB hard drives or thumb drives. Built-in 802.11ac Wi-Fi or Gigabit Ethernet connects the UDP-203 to users’ home networks, so users can easily play media files stored on computers and home servers.
The UDP-203’s video performance and universal compatibility is further complemented by its support of lossless high resolution audio. The player decodes audio file formats such as AIFF, WAV, ALAC, APE and FLAC. It also directly plays Direct-Stream Digital audio files in stereo DSD64/128 or multi-channel DSD64. With internal decoding of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio, and bitstream output for object-based immersive audio formats such as Dolby Atmos and DTS:X, the UDP-203 delivers great sound for both movie soundtracks and music. Besides HDMI, audio is concurrently available through the 7.1-channel analog outputs, featuring “Velvet Sound” 32-bit premium digital-to-analog converters from AKM of Japan.
In order to provide a premium user experience with quick start-up times and fast response, the UDP-203 is designed with a purist approach in mind for disc and file playback, and so it does not carry internet video and music streaming apps. Instead, an HDMI 2.0 input port that supports UHD resolution is available for users to connect an external streaming device. This approach affords users the flexibility to choose from a wide range of streaming devices and easily upgrade as streaming technologies evolve, while still taking advantage of the UDP-203’s audio and video processing capabilities.
Continuing OPPO’s tradition of providing firmware updates long after the initial release, the UDP-203 is upgradable via an easy-to-perform firmware update process. Since the Ultra HD Blu-ray format is still very new, customers can expect ongoing firmware updates that introduce new features and resolve issues. Leveraging hardware designed to support Dolby Vision, customers can expect a firmware update in early 2017 that brings Dolby Vision support to the player. Dolby Vision transforms the TV viewing experience by delivering striking highlights, brilliant colors, and deep darks never before seen on standard television screens, and OPPO is committed to bringing this exciting technology to the UDP-203.
UDP-203 customers will have years of enjoyment from this expertly designed and solidly built player. A brushed aluminum front panel, steel chassis and gold plated connectors not only present a sleek aesthetic, but also ensure dependable operation and reliable connection. Integration-friendly features such as RS-232 control, back panel IR sensor and third-party IP control make the UDP-203 a great choice for any home theater system.
UDP-203 Main Features:
Universal disc playback for 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray and many other formats
High Dynamic Range with HDR10 and firmware upgradable to Dolby Vision
Two HDMI outputs – HDMI 2.0 for UHD and HDMI 1.4 for audio
HDMI 2.0 input for external streaming devices or set-top boxes
Two USB 3.0 ports for media file playback
High resolution audio with lossless decoding for PCM and DSD
7.1ch analog audio outputs with premium 32-bit “Velvet Sound” DAC by AKM
Excellent audio and video performance
Upgradable and dependable
In addition to the UDP-203, a UDP-205 model is in development as a successor to the BDP-105/105D with upgraded audio performance. The UDP-205 should be available in early 2017.
Post by: audioworld2011 on December 13, 2016, 18:16
Post by: CASH on December 13, 2016, 18:35
Hehehehe!!!
Technology sucks man...
Post by: petetherock on December 13, 2016, 19:49
http://watershade.net/wmcclain/UDP-203_Settings_Checklist.html
Post by: petetherock on December 13, 2016, 19:53
4k discs have no region coding - yeah..
But our machines are tied to region A for BR discs..
Not sure about DVDs though..
Post by: CASH on December 13, 2016, 19:55
thats our local coding....
4K discs are purely region free!!!
Post by: petetherock on December 13, 2016, 20:35
http://www.multi-region.net/oppo_bdp-83
Post by: wizardofoz on December 13, 2016, 22:02
SPECIFICATIONS
Disc Types*
4K UHD Blu-ray, Blu-ray, Blu-ray 3D, DVD-Video, DVD-Audio, AVCHD, SACD, CD, Kodak Picture CD, CD-R/RW, DVD±R/RW, DVD±R DL, BD-R/RE
BD Profile
BD-ROM Version 3.1 Profile 6 (also compatible with BD-ROM Version 2.5 Profile 5)
Output
Analog Audio: 7.1ch, 5.1ch, stereo.
Coaxial/Optical Audio: up to 2ch/192kHz PCM, Dolby Digital, DTS.
HDMI Audio: up to 7.1ch/192kHz PCM, up to 5.1ch DSD, Bitstream.
HDMI Video: UHD/1080p24/1080p/1080i/720p/576p/576i/480p/480i, 3D frame-packing 720p/1080p24.
Input
HDMI Audio: up to 7.1ch/192kHz PCM, up to 5.1ch DSD, Bitstream.
HDMI Video: UHD/1080p24/1080p/1080i/720p/576p/576i/480p/480i, 3D frame-packing 720p/1080p24.
Audio Characteristics**
Frequency: 20Hz - 48kHz (±0.2dB), 20Hz - 96kHz (-4dB ˜ +0.05dB)
Signal-to-Noise Ratio: >112dB (A-weighted, Unmute)
THD+N: < 0.001% (1kHz at 0dBFS, 20kHz LPF)
Crosstalk: < -103dB (A-weighted)
General Specification
Power Supply: 100V - 240V˜, 50/60Hz AC
Power Consumption: 40W (Standby: 0.5W in Energy Efficient Mode)
Dimensions: 16.9 x 12.2 x 3.1 inches (430mm x 311mm x 79mm)
Mass: 9.5lbs (4.3kg)
Operating Temperature
41°F - 95°F, 5°C - 35°C
Operating Humidity 15% - 75%, no condensation
All trademarks are the property of their respective owners. Designs and specifications are subject to change without notice.
* Compatibility with user-encoded contents or user-created discs is on a best effort basis with no guarantee due to the variation of media, software and techniques used.
**Nominal specification.
Post by: bluepill193 on December 13, 2016, 22:23
Currently I have the Marantz 7007. I connect to AVR via HDMI, and also connect to stereo amp via XLR for CD playback. Looks like I can't do this with the Oppo if I use the analogue outs to AVR.
Post by: wizardofoz on December 13, 2016, 23:01
The 203 is using the AKM DACs so might be interesting to compare using different connections. I might even use the optical or coax out to my FPGA based DAC as an option too, or even SABRE32 for 2 channel.
Lots of options these days ???
Post by: wizardofoz on December 13, 2016, 23:34
I wonder what that shielded box is along the left side with 2 small wire runs into it to the left of the power supply. with only 2 wires maybe is battery for memory backup (odd with flash memory so easy these days) or some filter perhaps
Thinking about it maybe its the WIFI antenna :o yes it has WIFI built in too
(https://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-udp-203/images/UDP-203-refl-720.jpg)
(https://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-udp-203/images/UDP-203-top-front-720.jpg)
(https://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-udp-203/images/UDP-203-back-720.jpg)
(https://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-udp-203/images/UDP-203-internal-720.jpg)
Post by: wizardofoz on December 13, 2016, 23:43
OPPO UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Disc Player User Manual (PDF Format) (http://download.oppodigital.com/UDP203/UDP-203_USER_MANUAL_ENGLISH_V1.0.pdf)
Post by: petetherock on December 14, 2016, 17:58
http://www.jvbdigital.nl/jvb.asp?level=modifications&page=browse&searchtype=quicksearch&searchstring=udp-203
Post by: freddyhappy on December 14, 2016, 20:33
Post by: petetherock on December 14, 2016, 22:59
(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x244/petetherock/Hi%20Fi/IMG_4910_zpsmdgt6oan.jpg) (http://s183.photobucket.com/user/petetherock/media/Hi%20Fi/IMG_4910_zpsmdgt6oan.jpg.html)
(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x244/petetherock/Hi%20Fi/IMG_4912_zpsigqvhsca.jpg) (http://s183.photobucket.com/user/petetherock/media/Hi%20Fi/IMG_4912_zpsigqvhsca.jpg.html)
Post by: kenshin07 on December 15, 2016, 00:11
Post by: ahduck on December 15, 2016, 00:26
When u free or possible, appreciate if you could take a photo of bottom of the player.
Cos I'd like to know how far the footers are spaced apart for length and width..
Thanks
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Post by: wongkahkui on December 15, 2016, 01:48
Please share your review soon, can't wait to hear it ;)
Post by: planet on December 15, 2016, 06:28
It's here :)Come with free disc?
(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x244/petetherock/Hi%20Fi/IMG_4910_zpsmdgt6oan.jpg) (http://s183.photobucket.com/user/petetherock/media/Hi%20Fi/IMG_4910_zpsmdgt6oan.jpg.html)
(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x244/petetherock/Hi%20Fi/IMG_4912_zpsigqvhsca.jpg) (http://s183.photobucket.com/user/petetherock/media/Hi%20Fi/IMG_4912_zpsigqvhsca.jpg.html)
Post by: petetherock on December 15, 2016, 09:30
BTW, I can't get an image on my FHD plasma with a 4k disc, see if anyone can?
The chain:
Oppo to Marantz SR 7010 to Samsung 6400 plasma TV (FHD).
Post by: petetherock on December 15, 2016, 09:30
20X-29-1209
Post by: petetherock on December 15, 2016, 09:32
13 inches.
As for the free disc, please read the details on the MO thread. No free disc will come with the first batch - they are rushing to give us our players, and the discs aren't here yet.
Post by: petetherock on December 15, 2016, 09:44
The same error is popping up if you have a FHD TV - it can't display a 4k disc:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/560/31278498160_14815ab41e_b.jpg)
Post by: whitesox on December 15, 2016, 09:49
Post by: desray on December 15, 2016, 10:33
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Post by: petetherock on December 15, 2016, 10:51
HDMI main connected to TV, and HDMI Audio only connected to AVR.
You lose on screen, but that seems to be ok.
There's NO prescribed cable, your current high speed cables <5m should all work.
For longer lengths, there is not as much info on the maximum lengths, as HDCP 2.2, HDMI 2.0b etc are all quite new.
Post by: wizardofoz on December 15, 2016, 11:36
Width between footers:
13 inches.
As for the free disc, please read the details on the MO thread. No free disc will come with the first batch - they are rushing to give us our players, and the discs aren't here yet.
The included free disk should be available next week and will be delivered with the MO units...unless there is any change to this there will be notification given in the MO thread.
Please do not pm me or whatsapp wanting an early collection as it will not be possible until at least the eve of the 19th.
Post by: wyvern on December 15, 2016, 11:41
Did workaround that works:
HDMI main connected to TV, and HDMI Audio only connected to AVR.
You lose on screen, but that seems to be ok.
There's NO prescribed cable, your current high speed cables <5m should all work.
For longer lengths, there is not as much info on the maximum lengths, as HDCP 2.2, HDMI 2.0b etc are all quite new.
Is it because the AVR does not support HDCP 2.2?
Post by: petetherock on December 15, 2016, 11:44
Is it because the AVR does not support HDCP 2.2?Nope - I have a SR 7010.
Post by: petetherock on December 15, 2016, 11:44
Post by: crazysurfer on December 15, 2016, 12:04
FYI, the set comes DVD code free out of the box :)
Still not Blu-Ray Region Free yet?
Post by: CASH on December 15, 2016, 12:06
How about HDMI cable? what (min) version is needed for less than 10m ?
U should get a 18gbps HDMI cable....
As long as it's rated to reach that speed n bandwidth, your cable will be certified as 4K capable..
Look for the "Premium" seal..
I recently changed all my HDMI cables to this "premium" seal ones..
The 10gbps HDMI cables might not give u the speed n bandwidth needed...
Post by: CASH on December 15, 2016, 12:18
It gives u info on this new, so called "Premium" cables..
They also give an app to download into your Android hp to scan the barcode of the brand u bought to see if it's approved by them..
www.hdmi.org
Post by: ahduck on December 15, 2016, 12:21
Width between footers:
13 inches.
As for the free disc, please read the details on the MO thread. No free disc will come with the first batch - they are rushing to give us our players, and the discs aren't here yet.
Thanks appreciated.
I will be getting later tonight.
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Looking forward on your comments too.
Post by: whitesox on December 15, 2016, 12:23
U should get a 18gbps HDMI cable....
As long as it's rated to reach that speed n bandwidth, your cable will be certified as 4K capable..
Look for the "Premium" seal..
I recently changed all my HDMI cables to this "premium" seal ones..
The 10gbps HDMI cables might not give u the speed n bandwidth needed...
Appreciate for your info bro Cash.. Thx
One more question (believe me it is last one ;D)
What will happen if use 10gb/sec or even lower rate of hdmi cable? TV or PJ won't display (or sometimes blank) or flickering or will be frozen?
???
Post by: CASH on December 15, 2016, 12:25
HDR...
So I think it will only support max 8bit color?
Maybe can stretch to 10bit color...
But definitely can't hit the 12bit color..
Post by: petetherock on December 15, 2016, 12:32
Still not Blu-Ray Region Free yet?That's a feature, which you pay for when details are out later on. See the MO thread for details, cheers.
Post by: Tiktokape on December 15, 2016, 13:20
I will be getting later tonight.I'm expecting mine due to my office in a while just without the foc 4k BR - Mad Max.
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Post by: wyvern on December 15, 2016, 14:42
Post by: planet on December 15, 2016, 15:49
Post by: ckt on December 15, 2016, 16:08
Post by: ahduck on December 15, 2016, 16:19
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Post by: Tiktokape on December 15, 2016, 16:41
Busy day for SLT guy
(http://i1048.photobucket.com/albums/s378/ongcs/Car_zps4cllcgtm.jpg) (http://s1048.photobucket.com/user/ongcs/media/Car_zps4cllcgtm.jpg.html)
2 units are here
(http://i1048.photobucket.com/albums/s378/ongcs/Box_zpsw8xawbhd.jpg) (http://s1048.photobucket.com/user/ongcs/media/Box_zpsw8xawbhd.jpg.html)
Post by: shenzenus on December 15, 2016, 16:48
Post by: ahduck on December 15, 2016, 17:42
FOC disc can wait later, I bought a few during recent BF ;D
Busy day for SLT guy
(http://i1048.photobucket.com/albums/s378/ongcs/Car_zps4cllcgtm.jpg) (http://s1048.photobucket.com/user/ongcs/media/Car_zps4cllcgtm.jpg.html)
That's a lot of units..
collecting mine tomorrow morning..Sent from my Game Boy Advance 32gb 4GLTE/WiFi using Tapatalk
Post by: ckt on December 15, 2016, 21:26
Post by: petetherock on December 15, 2016, 21:31
That was fast...Hey bro
Catch up over a session, I have some leave year end.. we do a little HT session.. cheers
Post by: kenshin07 on December 15, 2016, 21:45
Hey bro
Catch up over a session, I have some leave year end.. we do a little HT session.. cheers
Sure :)
Post by: desray on December 15, 2016, 23:08
(http://xtremeplace.ddns.net/images/misc/oppo_203/oppo_203_player.jpg)
(http://xtremeplace.ddns.net/images/misc/oppo_203/oppo_203_player_firmware.jpg)
(http://xtremeplace.ddns.net/images/misc/oppo_203/oppo_203_vw500es_hdmi2.jpg)
(http://xtremeplace.ddns.net/images/misc/oppo_203/oppo_203_player_list.jpg)
(http://xtremeplace.ddns.net/images/misc/oppo_203/oppo_203_remote.jpg)
Post by: desray on December 15, 2016, 23:11
Post by: Tiktokape on December 15, 2016, 23:22
Clear film over the tray and display
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161215/b768258ecf8d6abf357a893632c0674f.jpg)
Without clear film protection
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161215/37d52b1c54aa4b0cb51f828b1b78d7e4.jpg)
Back panel
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161215/ea0b90ba2b5f056dfc76df3c1d3238c7.jpg)
Here you go with comparison against 101Ci.
Top view - 101Ci(L) vs 203(R)
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161215/c71535d3c87ccb0bf05df73ec3df7183.jpg)
Side view - 101Ci(T) vs 203(B)
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161215/5f219f02d5a0fea4aed541cdda2faa10.jpg)
Back panel - 101Ci(T) vs 203(B)
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161215/c2db4505a757e5efcc9dad40aee4ee70.jpg)
Remote - almost identical except top right comes with 1) Input button & 2) bottom left -> instead of light becomes HDR button
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161215/4b9dc25517f5ddb0704cb2341ec3c3c4.jpg)
Seems like Sound Signature is identical - AKM DAC chipset.
You will be prompt to update to latest firmware when turned on, I updated it immediately, roughly 1 minute.
Picture quality is insanely clear, sharp and vivid, tried Hunger Games & Deadpool so far. I prefer both normal BD & UHD BD in native resolution, without former in upscale.
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161215/855f42e8894c5140412f3c9bcebe6f41.jpg)
Time to run-in further!
Post by: mutant on December 16, 2016, 00:27
Post by: petetherock on December 16, 2016, 00:47
Need to borrow some 4K UHD discs for testing...anyone?Sure bro, I have a few, you can collect from me, queensway area cheers.
Post by: ootg on December 16, 2016, 00:53
Need to borrow some 4K UHD discs for testing...anyone?desray: I have X-Men Apocalyse, Star Trek Beyond and Batman v Superman - Dawn of Justice. Let me know if you want to borrow.
Post by: planet on December 16, 2016, 07:39
Post by: CASH on December 16, 2016, 07:45
u wanna borrow some of my 4K UHD Movies?
pictured below are the discs i have on hand at the moment.
(http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w33/cashkey/IMG20161108074148.jpg) (http://s172.photobucket.com/user/cashkey/media/IMG20161108074148.jpg.html)
Post by: CASH on December 16, 2016, 07:50
INDEPENDENCE DAY 4
XMEN APOCALYPSE
TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES OUT OF THE SHADOWS
Post by: desray on December 16, 2016, 08:02
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Post by: petetherock on December 16, 2016, 08:08
Post by: CASH on December 16, 2016, 08:15
see the 1st pic..(Bottom Righthand Corner has the Scanner code that can be read by HDMI.org android app to certify that it meets their requirement.)
i bought these cables from Japan itself.
(http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w33/cashkey/IMG_20161216_080928.jpg) (http://s172.photobucket.com/user/cashkey/media/IMG_20161216_080928.jpg.html)
(http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w33/cashkey/IMG20161216080827.jpg) (http://s172.photobucket.com/user/cashkey/media/IMG20161216080827.jpg.html)
Post by: Tiktokape on December 16, 2016, 08:46
Straight forward is make sure it support HDCP 2.2, in general all current high speed hdmi cables should be certified for that.
I'm using AmazonBasics HDMI cables for my entire HT setup ranging from 3F to 10F. Cheap and good if you ask me.
AmazonBasics High-Speed HDMI Cable - 3 Feet (2-Pack) (Latest Standard) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B014I8SP4W/
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Post by: Tiktokape on December 16, 2016, 08:52
Hi . Tiktokape. Any PQ or SQ different in between 101 and 203 when playing normal BR or concert? Thanks.Unfortunately I find my Oppo 101Ci to excel in normal BR probably due to fact I mod the player on the digital end - black levels are much better so I can't comment vs a pure vanilla unit.
101Ci will continue to stay with me BUT it is off the hook due to limited rack space after a short comparison yesterday night. Got to re-route everything probably next week or so.
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Post by: petetherock on December 16, 2016, 09:01
Hope someone can share if they have successfully used the Oppo with a SR 7010 and a FHD plasma... cheersReply from Oppo:
"The issue right now is that the player is seeing the HDCP 2.2 of the receiver but not the older HDCP of the television, so it is trying to handshake HDCP 2.2 only. So in the interim, while we investigate this issue, you will need to use the player with HDMI (MAIN) to the television and HDMI (SUB) to the receiver for audio.
Post by: audioworld2011 on December 16, 2016, 09:24
http://www.avbuzz.com/audio-video/201612/oppo-203-open-b/
Post by: desray on December 16, 2016, 10:13
The standard package with the UDP203 should come with 1.8m HDMI Premium with Ethernet right?
http://www.avbuzz.com/audio-video/201612/oppo-203-open-b/
Yes.
Post by: CASH on December 16, 2016, 10:20
Post by: desray on December 16, 2016, 10:26
Don't get too complicated over which premium hdmi cables for your newly bought Oppo 203.
Straight forward is make sure it support HDCP 2.2, in general all current high speed hdmi cables should be certified for that.
I'm using AmazonBasics HDMI cables for my entire HT setup ranging from 3F to 10F. Cheap and good if you ask me.
AmazonBasics High-Speed HDMI Cable - 3 Feet (2-Pack) (Latest Standard) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B014I8SP4W/ (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B014I8SP4W/)
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Yep. That's correct! This is the correct advice to dispense. Literally there is really no need to rush out to buy any new HDMI cable as the current ones that comes with your 4K display TV or for the past 1 - 2 yrs should have no issue displaying 4K content. The "labelling" or rather the "gimmick" on the HDMI cable versioning was a thing in the past. Now there is only 1 type (sans those with Ethernet or non-Ethernet feature) - i.e. High-Speed. The "premium" logo that comes with the newer batch of cables simply makes things easier for non-AV savvy consumers to recognize that the cable supports the latest ratification by the BDA on the premium specs for most 4K UHD TV of these days - meaning support for HDCP 2.2 (the most important aspect as this is the DRM, w/o this feature there will be no display), supports HDR10 (base), Dolby Vision (dependent on firmware upgrade by individual manufacturers), WCG support (BT2020) and of course full spectrum speed of 18Gbps for support of HDR and WCG for high-end flagship 4K display to realize the best in 4K tech - but at the end of the day, it all comes down to the studio authoring the disc itself.
Post by: desray on December 16, 2016, 10:30
Reply from Oppo:
"The issue right now is that the player is seeing the HDCP 2.2 of the receiver but not the older HDCP of the television, so it is trying to handshake HDCP 2.2 only. So in the interim, while we investigate this issue, you will need to use the player with HDMI (MAIN) to the television and HDMI (SUB) to the receiver for audio.
Yep, that will be the correct advice and the next best alternative solution to it. I think Oppo already foresee the compatibility issues plaguing display monitors (i.e. video chain) as this 4K "thing" requires (as far as possible) for things to work seamlessly, is to get every AV equipment you owned to be fully compliant with HDCP 2.2 (minimally).
Post by: CASH on December 16, 2016, 10:36
for all the hungry n thirsty consumers out there, these 2 answers make the day by the simple but understandable answers provided by him.
cheers n kudos to him!
:)
Post by: virtueblue on December 16, 2016, 13:12
Post by: wizardofoz on December 16, 2016, 13:23
Post by: wizardofoz on December 16, 2016, 13:35
Post by: petetherock on December 16, 2016, 13:43
is it the exact same height as the 101CI?Much slimmer, so it can fit into smaller spaces. But do give it some space as there's no internal fan.
Post by: wizardofoz on December 16, 2016, 13:47
Post by: planet on December 17, 2016, 11:12
https://youtu.be/0BQs6nYn2_4
Post by: CASH on December 17, 2016, 11:44
Post by: CASH on December 17, 2016, 11:45
Post by: desray on December 17, 2016, 18:08
I am quite impressed with the PQ that this player churned out. Yesterday I have borrowed a few 4K UHD titles (courtesy from SLT) to test out the 4K discs on my Sony VW500ES. Take note this projector is in fact a true native 4K projector which is able to display true 4K image. The PQ is amazing to say the least. Connecting to the HDMI 2 (which supports HDCP 2.2), there is no problem in playback of the DRM content. No error and the loading time of the disc is quite fast considering that the 4K UHD disc requires the laser beam focus of the len to read even "deeper". The player did an admirably job with the speed in loading times. Playback is smooth and able to pick up different 4K content with varying frame-rate (as 50/60 fps and 24fps for film) with ease!
(http://xtremeplace.ddns.net/images/misc/oppo_203/auo_4k_intro.jpg)
(http://xtremeplace.ddns.net/images/misc/oppo_203/opera_male_4k.jpg)
(http://xtremeplace.ddns.net/images/misc/oppo_203/mad_max_4k.jpg)
(http://xtremeplace.ddns.net/images/misc/oppo_203/gods_of_egypt_4k.jpg)
(http://xtremeplace.ddns.net/images/misc/oppo_203/2160p_24_signal.jpg)
Here's a sample clip from Gods of Egypt (4K UHD) - shot in 4K but down-sampled to 1080p to reduce bandwidth for playback. But you already can see a vast difference in terms of the PQ.
http://www.youtube.com/v/A3GKx8l7IRU&fs=1
Overall, I am quite impressed.
Post by: ckt on December 17, 2016, 20:36
Post by: CASH on December 17, 2016, 20:45
So far your skills in calibrating projectors is by far the best I have seen!!
Best regards bro!!
Cheers!!
:)
Post by: CASH on December 17, 2016, 20:47
;D
Post by: desray on December 17, 2016, 22:02
Wait til you see the biggest real highlight of the 4k bluray, HDR!!!!!!
Yep...I know that. I am waiting for a projector that is able to output bright enough lumens to truly enjoy the HDR. Without enough light output, HDR won't be able to "shine".
Post by: CASH on December 17, 2016, 22:35
u will then understand....
;D
Post by: ckt on December 17, 2016, 23:15
Post by: petetherock on December 18, 2016, 13:02
http://peteswrite.blogspot.sg/2016/12/oppo-udp-203-review.html
Hoping to try it with a variety of 4k displays soon..
Post by: petetherock on December 18, 2016, 22:35
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F--ffP6Iiig
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewonHobSu_c
Post by: ahduck on December 19, 2016, 17:59
I encountered this as I cannot remember the episode of Drama I was watching thus needing to 'play and stop' videos repeatedly.
(https://pp.vk.me/c301104/v301104577/4522/cM_YV7Sb1ak.jpg)
To get to Oppo menu, sometime I just need to change resolution to 1080Auto and change back to Custom using the remote.
Other times, need to off or off/ on AVR. then menu appears.
Is this what they call 'handshake issues'?
I'm able to play UHD BRdisc at 4K60, 4:4:4 at 8bits with HDR without issues.
Could this be 'initial/ unstable firmware' of the Oppo or do I need to get 'Certified' Premium HDMI cables.
*But the up-scaled to 4K on a 720 video is awesome*
Post by: desray on December 19, 2016, 20:14
Just checking, does anyone encounter below grey screen if you were to 'play and stop' videos repeatedly from shared (DLNA/ SMB) network?
I encountered this as I cannot remember the episode of Drama I was watching thus needing to 'play and stop' videos repeatedly.
(https://pp.vk.me/c301104/v301104577/4522/cM_YV7Sb1ak.jpg)
To get to Oppo menu, sometime I just need to change resolution to 1080Auto and change back to Custom using the remote.
Other times, need to off or off/ on AVR. then menu appears.
Is this what they call 'handshake issues'?
I'm able to play UHD BRdisc at 4K60, 4:4:4 at 8bits with HDR without issues.
Could this be 'initial/ unstable firmware' of the Oppo or do I need to get 'Certified' Premium HDMI cables.
*But the up-scaled to 4K on a 720 video is awesome*
Can be a myriad of issues here. HDMI handshake does produce this "snowy" anomalies. BUT having say that, if you are able to watch at "certain resolution", then it may not really be an handshake issue per se. Connect the HDMI direct to the display instead of the AVR and try to execute the same thing and see if it is the display or with the issue with the AVR passing through or the doing of up-conversion (imperfect resolution or frequency selected) caused by the AVR in the video chain. When it comes to video and HDMI, the only way to investigate is through elimination.
Post by: CASH on December 19, 2016, 21:16
Jus get the "Premium HDMI Cables"
The extra bandwidth n certification by that orange sticker on the packaging box, will give me piece of mind..
As it's officially certified to give out all that is required...
;D
Post by: ronildoq on December 19, 2016, 21:44
For me, it's a simple solution....
Jus get the "Premium HDMI Cables"
The extra bandwidth n certification by that orange sticker on the packaging box, will give me piece of mind..
As it's officially certified to give out all that is required...
;D
+1
yes i have got the Tera Grand HDMI 2.0B Premium Certified cable from Amazon as well. Not too expensive and it gives you the Peace of Mind, rather than having to plug it in and out and second guessing which equipment is having issue. As for Monoprice, somehow the quality of the redmere HDMI 2.0 is not better than an Aiborg HDMI 1.4. So ive left that option out and went for the tera grand instead.... You have already spent $900 for UHD player, $20 for the certified cable for peace of mind makes sense to me...
Post by: jeffong on December 20, 2016, 01:20
Post by: desray on December 20, 2016, 07:25
Encountered a harrowing experience while trying to setup the Oppo earlier. Initially, I had it connected to my Denon X7200WA and after powering up, the Oppo pretty much hung upon starting up. Powering on and off the Oppo and the Denon did not rectify the problem nor did the changing of HDMI cables or HDMI port connections on the Denon. Even swapping the same HDMI cable back and forth with the Samsung 4K player (No playback issues with the Sammy) did not help. Finally decided to connect the Oppo directly to my OLED TV and finally it started to behave properly. Not sure what is causing the issues but I have initiated the firmware update on the Oppo and the Denon and going to retry the AVR connections tomorrow again. Not a good outcome while trying to setup a new toy past midnight. :(
Sorry to hear that. I have the same AVR as yours except that I connect it to my 4K projector via HDCP 2.2 input. Everything works perfectly w/o any issue at first start-up.
Post by: shenzenus on December 20, 2016, 09:06
Encountered a harrowing experience while trying to setup the Oppo earlier. Initially, I had it connected to my Denon X7200WA and after powering up, the Oppo pretty much hung upon starting up. Powering on and off the Oppo and the Denon did not rectify the problem nor did the changing of HDMI cables or HDMI port connections on the Denon. Even swapping the same HDMI cable back and forth with the Samsung 4K player (No playback issues with the Sammy) did not help. Finally decided to connect the Oppo directly to my OLED TV and finally it started to behave properly. Not sure what is causing the issues but I have initiated the firmware update on the Oppo and the Denon and going to retry the AVR connections tomorrow again. Not a good outcome while trying to setup a new toy past midnight. :(
Post by: ahduck on December 20, 2016, 14:15
Can be a myriad of issues here. HDMI handshake does produce this "snowy" anomalies. BUT having say that, if you are able to watch at "certain resolution", then it may not really be an handshake issue per se. Connect the HDMI direct to the display instead of the AVR and try to execute the same thing and see if it is the display or with the issue with the AVR passing through or the doing of up-conversion (imperfect resolution or frequency selected) caused by the AVR in the video chain. When it comes to video and HDMI, the only way to investigate is through elimination.
After some 2-3 hours of testing last night, I came to a conclusion and most likely isn't a cable issue.
Unlike Win7 which had Media Player as DLNA/ SMB server or a dedicated NAS, I'm using Server 2008R2 which doesn't have built in DLNA/ SMB server features.
I was using TVersity Media Server previously and it seems to auto create huge (20-30Gb files in ProgramData) metadata files for thumbnail/ icons etc. which I didn't realise earlier.
Not sure whether those 'extra' data are the culprits to the 'snowy' display.
However now I have uninstalled it and change to Serviio Media Server. So far now issues. ;D
For me, it's a simple solution....
Jus get the "Premium HDMI Cables"
The extra bandwidth n certification by that orange sticker on the packaging box, will give me piece of mind..
As it's officially certified to give out all that is required...
;D
For the peace of mind, I've ordered few certified BJC to replace my current AQ cables which will be relegate to be used on Starhub set-top box.
Side note. Is there any shop/ place that sell latest 'Certified Premium HDMI Cables' with sticker in SG. None of the HDMI cable found in Challenger are officially certified.
I'd like to physical see the product and play play with scanning of the QRcode. :P
Post by: wyvern on December 20, 2016, 14:19
Encountered a harrowing experience while trying to setup the Oppo earlier. Initially, I had it connected to my Denon X7200WA and after powering up, the Oppo pretty much hung upon starting up. Powering on and off the Oppo and the Denon did not rectify the problem nor did the changing of HDMI cables or HDMI port connections on the Denon. Even swapping the same HDMI cable back and forth with the Samsung 4K player (No playback issues with the Sammy) did not help. Finally decided to connect the Oppo directly to my OLED TV and finally it started to behave properly. Not sure what is causing the issues but I have initiated the firmware update on the Oppo and the Denon and going to retry the AVR connections tomorrow again. Not a good outcome while trying to setup a new toy past midnight. :(
Had similar problem. Am using Denon X4200 and there was no image on my projector. I switched the HDMI cable around and also into different ports but just couldn't get anything except audio. Before I gave up for the night, I switch the HDMI out on my Epson TW8200W to HDMI 2 and the image is out, crisp and clear. Has yet to confirm if it was really the port and I'll get to the bottom of it when I try again tonight.
Post by: petetherock on December 20, 2016, 14:30
Stay cool and post them in the Hdmi thread too, more bros will benefit especially during this nascent period. Cheers
Post by: ahduck on December 20, 2016, 14:40
+1
yes i have got the Tera Grand HDMI 2.0B Premium Certified cable from Amazon as well. Not too expensive and it gives you the Peace of Mind, rather than having to plug it in and out and second guessing which equipment is having issue. As for Monoprice, somehow the quality of the redmere HDMI 2.0 is not better than an Aiborg HDMI 1.4. So ive left that option out and went for the tera grand instead.... You have already spent $900 for UHD player, $20 for the certified cable for peace of mind makes sense to me...
There is a new certified premium cable from Monoprice.
http://www.monoprice.com/product?c_id=102&cp_id=10240&cs_id=1024021&p_id=15427&seq=1&format=2
(http://i.imgur.com/yhy5xW9.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/BBIIws4.jpg)
Unlike the older one, it was previously mentioned that it could sustain up to 18Gbps but now downgrade to 10.2Gbps data throughput.
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRPVFk87oaxRvm3mjRyAfUu_rmyVfYGqntu_pYRZf6cZqYmu7XK)(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTFjvdSHR7t6tFIxHcZuWysGwZbD6LCvrJWRDoDRPwvJIBkQdk5)
Post by: ronildoq on December 20, 2016, 18:38
(http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag329/ronildoq/7C2A3EA8-CAA6-4AAD-9FD0-F6A5C409ADC0_zpsntfbsvkd.jpg)
Post by: CASH on December 20, 2016, 18:53
"Premium" HDMI CERTIFIED Cables are the way to go!!!
hehehehe!!!
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
if u r in the camp that believe's the premium certified cables are hogwash...
then do enjoy the problems with the uncertified n older spec hdmi cables..
no one can help u out, with any problems..
hehehehe!!!
cheers!!!
Post by: CASH on December 20, 2016, 18:53
Post by: fada on December 20, 2016, 22:29
You might want to consider this HDMI cables proven to run 600mhz. If not, you can return back to them if proven otherwise.
Here is the link: https://www.hdfury.com/shop/accessories/hdmi2-0a-cables-x4/
Post by: CASH on December 20, 2016, 23:20
do take the plunge, if u need too...
cheers!!!
Post by: Pingu on December 20, 2016, 23:51
Post by: ronildoq on December 20, 2016, 23:59
(http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag329/ronildoq/EF5E189D-716A-4EFD-AB67-4F5F3FA46515_zpsxtcqwn3a.png)
Post by: Doggie Howser on December 21, 2016, 06:38
TADAAAAAAaaaa
UDP205
Post by: desray on December 21, 2016, 08:03
https://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-udp-205/Wow. Audiophile rejoice!!!
TADAAAAAAaaaa
UDP205
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Post by: ronildoq on December 21, 2016, 13:57
Any perceived benefits of having video out direct to tv vide HDMI and audio to receiver vide second HDMI, VS 1 cable in to AVR and AVR out to TV for both audio and video. This is my first bluray player, havent really tested the difference. I read somewhere that the first is preferred since there is less interference, something like that. No issues with connectivity, just wanted to know if that connection is better.
When i had the denon 4520, the IP Scaler function was inferior compared to the TV Graphics. Connecting it direct to the TV yielded better image quality. I switch off the IP scaler on the denon. But the newer Denon 6200 has better graphics.
Has anyone done a comparison between the two connection methods?
Post by: desray on December 21, 2016, 15:27
Guys, Oppo 203 Question.
Any perceived benefits of having video out direct to tv vide HDMI and audio to receiver vide second HDMI, VS 1 cable in to AVR and AVR out to TV for both audio and video. This is my first bluray player, havent really tested the difference. I read somewhere that the first is preferred since there is less interference, something like that. No issues with connectivity, just wanted to know if that connection is better.
When i had the denon 4520, the IP Scaler function was inferior compared to the TV Graphics. Connecting it direct to the TV yielded better image quality. I switch off the IP scaler on the denon. But the newer Denon 6200 has better graphics.
Has anyone done a comparison between the two connection methods?
More often than not, direct connection to the display monitor - i.e. 4K UHD TV or equivalent will yield better results as the scaler will be better at handling the processing. Its just like there is no "intermediary" channel that you need to worry about which will degrade the video signal in the video chain. However, there is nothing wrong if you feed one HDMI cable to the AVR input and another cable from AVR to the display if your AVR allows passthrough...meaning no scaling or post processing will be done at the AVR end before it pipe the video signal to the display monitor. This method saves one additional need to get another new cable and make it less clutter.
As for audio performance, there is really no significant difference if you ask me...
Post by: CASH on December 21, 2016, 15:54
Looking at the HiRez pic of the 203, it doesn't seem to exist.....
Hmmmmmm...
Wonder why...
Post by: petetherock on December 21, 2016, 15:58
Post by: francis wu on December 21, 2016, 16:07
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/answer/ANS00048661/
Post by: desray on December 21, 2016, 16:09
A direct connection also misses out on the OSD..
Yes...but not crucial IMO since the VFD on the AVR allows simple settings to be seen.
Post by: ronildoq on December 21, 2016, 18:19
Post by: ronildoq on December 21, 2016, 23:32
Just played Man of Steel Atmos track. Space ships moving overhead is unbelievably syok! I have bass sweeping left right on my head ! how is that even possible? :o :o Ive never felt bass moving like that before, especially above my head. This is at low volumes at night. OMG..... How is low frequency tactile feel sweeping on the head area? only the atmos tracks have this kind of effect. ive felt rumble and chest thump, but never sweeping bass on head, like an object passing by.... Absolute Nirvana Oppo 203 with the UHD! Totally worth the investment.
Post by: jeffong on December 22, 2016, 23:14
Post by: ronildoq on December 23, 2016, 07:28
Post by: semajm85 on December 23, 2016, 11:11
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Post by: audioworld2011 on December 23, 2016, 13:39
https://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-udp-205/The price could be double if you compare the price wigh 103 and 105.
TADAAAAAAaaaa
UDP205
Post by: crazysurfer on December 23, 2016, 13:48
The price could be double if you compare the price wigh 103 and 105
Think it will depends on what features it comes with.
Post by: wizardofoz on December 23, 2016, 15:10
I also doubt the 2017 date is going to be very early as the 203 is only just out. My guess is maybe at best early to late q2.
Closer to the release I guess we will know more but as the 203 specs were barely published until release day I think info is going to be pretty scarce
Post by: audioworld2011 on December 23, 2016, 16:29
http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=282570&page=49
"The difference is the UDP-205 can be used as an external DAC using digital coaxial, optical, and Asynchronous USB inputs, the digital to analog conversion is done at a higher degree, and the player will have a headphone amplifier. So if you are connected to an older amplifier or pre-amplifier that only has analog outputs, then the UDP-205 is the best solution.”
“The UDP-203 is already released for $549, and the UDP-205 will be out sometime early-2017 for around $1199 and $1299.”
"
Post by: ronildoq on December 28, 2016, 22:27
Something i came across on the settings of 203, any idea what these filter characteristics are doing? Not able to find it on the manual
(http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag329/ronildoq/16E92BEF-D6FB-4780-8663-B431646C9361_zps5evrtopn.jpg)
Post by: CASH on December 28, 2016, 22:29
DSD stuff n the likes...
Post by: durianlover88 on December 29, 2016, 02:19
Post by: petetherock on December 30, 2016, 10:24
http://www.wifihifi.ca/LatestNewsHeadlines/Exclusive!FirstCanadianHands-onReviewoftheOppoUDP-203Blu-rayPlayer.html
Post by: petetherock on December 30, 2016, 10:25
stutter
freezing
inability to play UHD discs
I wonder if anyone locally has had any issues?
Post by: CASH on December 30, 2016, 11:36
So bound to have some glitches..
Jus like the XBOX ONE S...
Hardware is there..
But fine tuning the software part is the hardest..
Different studios with different encryption methods make 4K UHD Discs glitchy..
Post by: CASH on December 30, 2016, 11:38
So jailbreak software if bought now, is not a good idea..
Unless it's a buy once n get jb updates forever..
Catching up game..
Post by: dXter on December 30, 2016, 12:42
AKM DAC is not very good, very boomy and flabby bass presentation (or maybe it's my too thick power cord).
Post by: CASH on December 30, 2016, 12:54
Not hard sounding..
ESS is totally different..
To each his own..
Different ears...
No chip is better than the other.
All up to personal preference..
Post by: Hass on December 30, 2016, 13:45
Post by: dXter on December 30, 2016, 14:19
Post by: CASH on December 30, 2016, 14:51
it should be Cirrus?
Post by: petetherock on December 30, 2016, 15:32
Post by: DJQ on December 30, 2016, 16:42
only a very small handful do not like ESS Sabre32 sound signature.
Post by: ronildoq on December 30, 2016, 22:19
Quite a few owners in AVS have posted that there are issues like
stutter
freezing
inability to play UHD discs
I wonder if anyone locally has had any issues?
I have tried region B and A disc, no problem. Its region free. No Such issues with the Oppo 203 pete, no freezing, no stutter, all the UHD disc playing flawlessly so far. I have watched 5 movies all good. In fact some remux mkv files on NAS couldnt play on popcorn but could play on oppo. Good stuff.
Post by: petetherock on December 31, 2016, 13:22
Another review..
Post by: petetherock on December 31, 2016, 13:24
I have tried region B and A disc, no problem. Its region free. No Such issues with the Oppo 203 pete, no freezing, no stutter, all the UHD disc playing flawlessly so far. I have watched 5 movies all good. In fact some remux mkv files on NAS couldnt play on popcorn but could play on oppo. Good stuff.Are you saying you tried UHD discs or you tried REGION A & B BR discs and found it to be region free? The latter will be very interesting.. the former is moot since UHD discs are not region coded..
Post by: ronildoq on December 31, 2016, 14:01
Post by: petetherock on December 31, 2016, 14:03
UHD disc, it's written as region A and B. Both works. Not sure why they still need to classify region A / B if it's region free.That's because there's a BR disc included in current boxes.
Post by: CASH on December 31, 2016, 14:04
that will not be a uhd disc!!
all uhd discs have no region written on it...
only regular bluray discs have it...
Post by: ronildoq on December 31, 2016, 21:56
Cheers mate!
Post by: dXter on December 31, 2016, 22:48
Post by: desray on December 31, 2016, 23:29
Currently the stripped HDR is not forced, if the display is not HDR compatible, it would down convert to BT.709. Had a reply from oppo, in the future the stripped HDR would be forced BT.2020.
Thanks for the info, I didn't know that in the future, stripped HDR content would be forced to BT 2020?
Post by: dXter on January 01, 2017, 00:12
Post by: ahduck on January 01, 2017, 01:23
Quite a few owners in AVS have posted that there are issues likeWatched the free Mad Max Fury Road last night.
stutter
freezing
inability to play UHD discs
I wonder if anyone locally has had any issues?
1st 2 Chapters has the shutter..
Audio /video sync slowly develops until chapter 8 which is too obvious til I had to gohead and goestan one chapter to 're-sync' so the lipsync will go back to normal.
After the movie ends, I ejected the disc, the unit hangs. No response on remote control. Had to hold power button to force shutdown. Restart and close disc tray and shutdown again..
Post by: ronildoq on January 01, 2017, 07:47
Are you saying you tried UHD discs or you tried REGION A & B BR discs and found it to be region free? The latter will be very interesting.. the former is moot since UHD discs are not region coded..
Pete, now i recall, i was comparing the normal bluray of Man of Steel vs Atmos version. The normal bluray is Region B, it could Playback, no issues. The Oppo 203 plays Region A & B bluraydisc! No hacks and software mods! Give it a try it works!
Post by: desray on January 01, 2017, 09:42
desray, oppo meant in a future firmware for the 203, not in general. Currently some display's hdmi cannot be upgraded to 2.0a but supports WCG, so the 203 cannot sent BT.2020 without HDR forced on.
I see...the keyword: HDMI 2.0a.
Post by: petetherock on January 01, 2017, 10:20
Pete, now i recall, i was comparing the normal bluray of Man of Steel vs Atmos version. The normal bluray is Region B, it could Playback, no issues. The Oppo 203 plays Region A & B bluraydisc! No hacks and software mods! Give it a try it works!I assume you bought your disc from UK?
Some of the so called region B labelled discs are actually all regions. If it's by Warner, there's a good chance it's all regions.
Try some disc from Line, Fox or Disney which is region B. I think the 203 is region locked for BRs..
Post by: ronildoq on January 01, 2017, 11:01
I get most of my disc from Amazon USA
Post by: petetherock on January 03, 2017, 21:40
I can't play bro Desray's last demo disc off a USB on the 203, anyone else having this issue?
Post by: CASH on January 03, 2017, 21:46
It plays excellent..
USB...
Nope..
Never tried.
Sorry..
Post by: desray on January 03, 2017, 23:02
Bros
I can't play bro Desray's last demo disc off a USB on the 203, anyone else having this issue?
That's because you don't have the jailbreak firmware installed for you to playback full BD ISO/BDMV file structure.
Post by: petetherock on January 03, 2017, 23:21
That's because you don't have the jailbreak firmware installed for you to playback full BD ISO/BDMV file structure.Hmm.. I didn't need that for the other Oppos I owned.. not keen on adding new FW, so I will put up with this defect for now, cheers.
Post by: CASH on January 04, 2017, 01:12
No need to wait for jailbreak..
Always playing catch up..
Hehehehehe¡!
Post by: wizardofoz on January 04, 2017, 01:31
Anyway I'm sure a legitimate Jb will along soon enough and and when it is I hope to be the first to know.
Post by: desray on January 04, 2017, 09:30
Not really a defect...it's like saying sacd doesn't play out the digital coax/optical ports. It's because that's the way it's been designed and implemented, for whatever reasons, rights management, etc.
Anyway I'm sure a legitimate Jb will along soon enough and and when it is I hope to be the first to know.
+1 with wiz on this. This is NOT a defect per se but rather an "added feature" to unlock the ability to playback ISO files in your USB external drive.
By the way wiz, the JB should be made avail pretty soon.
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Post by: wizardofoz on January 04, 2017, 09:43
Post by: wizardofoz on January 04, 2017, 09:46
Post by: petetherock on January 04, 2017, 09:49
Pete that's why I said you need to burn it to disk...I just didn't have any disks only could pass you on USB. Didn't realize you thought ISO playback was still on the table for non jb Oppo's these days....the old days of that gone long ago iircNot really mate..
This same demo played fine in the 101.
So it's a regression as far as I am concerned..
Post by: wizardofoz on January 04, 2017, 09:55
Not really mate..
This same demo played fine in the 101.
So it's a regression as far as I am concerned..
But 101 was a ci machine...for custom I nstaller and not really a consumer model...probably why the difference as its needed in different commercial installations...was a nice player tho
Post by: desray on January 04, 2017, 09:56
I'm keeping close tabs on the jb through my contacts as well...yes it's close. But like most jb's now being external USB based its going mean you will have to disable updates for normal firmware and you will likely have to play catchup like everyone does with iPhones...such is being on the fringe ??? also not something one can reverse, probably won't help those who really want a well supported player firmware release updated unit but I guess jb is not for everyone, just those with special needs like ISO playback etc
Yep. Agreed with all your arguments. A small price to pay if u ask me. To overcome any playability issues, especially for some media file types due to encoding compatibility or what not, there is always a separate media player like Popcorn hour, nVidia Shield 4K TV or equivalent to get it working.
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Post by: desray on January 04, 2017, 09:59
Not really mate..
This same demo played fine in the 101.
So it's a regression as far as I am concerned..
Pete, u just need a different form of medium to play it - that is a Blu-ray Disc (BD-R) for it play on the UDP-203. Get Ken to help you with this, perhaps?
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Post by: wizardofoz on January 04, 2017, 10:02
I guess if ISO playback is a must then get the jb when it comes, or look for less prosumer brands. Something for everyone out there.
Or do like CASH or I do and burn it to a disk...after all that's the best way to play.
Post by: Bokachy on January 04, 2017, 10:54
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Post by: petetherock on January 04, 2017, 11:31
Pete, u just need a different form of medium to play it - that is a Blu-ray Disc (BD-R) for it play on the UDP-203. Get Ken to help you with this, perhaps?Thanks I am sure there are workarounds, but it's a step backwards. BTW Ken can't burn anymore - will lend him one of my burners if he needs one..
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Odd thing is, despite being a PC idiot, I have two BR burners.. I just use them as BR drives with my iMacs to play discs on my iMac..
Cheers
Post by: ahduck on January 04, 2017, 12:22
Sorry I had to ask this because I read before that the firmware downloaded on the website is meant for machine sold in North America.
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Post by: petetherock on January 04, 2017, 12:37
USA FW:
(I don't know if it works with our players)
Category: Latest Public Beta Test Release
Main Version: UDP20X-33-1229B
Loader Version: TF0027
MCU Version: MCU203-01-1118
Resolved an issue where the Home Menu was fixed to a 60 Hz frame rate.
Resolved an HDCP 2.2 failure when connecting to an HDCP 2.2 receiver and an older, non-HDCP 2.2 display.
Resolved a black screen issue with certain UHD titles after resuming playback.
Improved a micro-stuttering issue when outputting UHD, BD, and DVD titles at 24 Hz.
Resolved an SACD playback issue where the player would immediately return to the Home Menu.
Optimized disc loader performance for better disc compatibility and spin speed control.
Resolved an issue where the player could not recognize music files when using Serviio server.
Resolved an issue where the RS-232 command #SRC would not work on the UDP-203.
Pressing and holding the Resolution button on the remote for three seconds will reset the player’s Output Resolution, HDR, Color Space, and Color Depth settings to factory defaults.
Improved the gapless playback feature for audio files.
The Home Menu now supports a wrap-around function.
Improved the over-saturation of colors when using the experimental Strip Metadata feature. Please note that the black level is temporarily fixed to a very low level when enabling the Strip Metadata feature.
Post by: CASH on January 04, 2017, 13:09
all working fine.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
(http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w33/cashkey/IMG20170104130156.jpg) (http://s172.photobucket.com/user/cashkey/media/IMG20170104130156.jpg.html)
Post by: crazysurfer on January 04, 2017, 19:24
Post by: CASH on January 04, 2017, 21:01
They will need to prove they can iron out many issues 1st with the 203 player...
They would not want to launch the top end 205, with no solutions for the 203..
203 is the guinea pig...
Well, that's my guesstimate...
;D
Post by: desray on January 04, 2017, 23:25
I think SLT will release the JB firmware soon. Hang on tight for those looking to get it for playback of your BD ISO collection. ;)
Post by: desray on January 04, 2017, 23:27
http://oppodigital.com/blu-ray-udp-203/UDP203-firmware-33-1229B.aspx (http://oppodigital.com/blu-ray-udp-203/UDP203-firmware-33-1229B.aspx)
USA FW:
(I don't know if it works with our players)
Category: Latest Public Beta Test Release
Main Version: UDP20X-33-1229B
Loader Version: TF0027
MCU Version: MCU203-01-1118
Resolved an issue where the Home Menu was fixed to a 60 Hz frame rate.
Resolved an HDCP 2.2 failure when connecting to an HDCP 2.2 receiver and an older, non-HDCP 2.2 display.
Resolved a black screen issue with certain UHD titles after resuming playback.
Improved a micro-stuttering issue when outputting UHD, BD, and DVD titles at 24 Hz.
Resolved an SACD playback issue where the player would immediately return to the Home Menu.
Optimized disc loader performance for better disc compatibility and spin speed control.
Resolved an issue where the player could not recognize music files when using Serviio server.
Resolved an issue where the RS-232 command #SRC would not work on the UDP-203.
Pressing and holding the Resolution button on the remote for three seconds will reset the player’s Output Resolution, HDR, Color Space, and Color Depth settings to factory defaults.
Improved the gapless playback feature for audio files.
The Home Menu now supports a wrap-around function.
Improved the over-saturation of colors when using the experimental Strip Metadata feature. Please note that the black level is temporarily fixed to a very low level when enabling the Strip Metadata feature.
IIRC the firmware released by Oppo is universally accepted as long as it sports the SAME MODEL.
Post by: ronildoq on January 05, 2017, 00:06
I gotten the jailbreak firmware for my Oppo UDP-203 and I can confirm that BD ISO/BDMV file structure worked fine after the flash. CAUTION: DO NOT update the latest Beta firmware after you've flashed your player with the JB firmware lest lose the "added features" of the JB firmware.
I think SLT will release the JB firmware soon. Hang on tight for those looking to get it for playback of your BD ISO collection. ;)
Nice ! Finally
Post by: ronildoq on January 12, 2017, 17:56
Played 1 normal BR disc, then i see the screen freeze and stutter occasionally, looks highly likely its a firmware issue. Disc is new, dont think its the disc problem.
Anyone else having this problem? Strange part is all UHD disc playback no issues.
Post by: CASH on January 12, 2017, 18:04
and wat timestamp did the br movie freeze?
if i have that same movie on br, i will test it out to share..
not many want to share any findings..
all jus read and absorb n crawl back into their little holes....
Post by: ronildoq on January 12, 2017, 18:14
which br movie title bro?
and wat timestamp did the br movie freeze?
if i have that same movie on br, i will test it out to share..
not many want to share any findings..
all jus read and absorb n crawl back into their little holes....
lol, its Ice Age - continental Drift. I will need to check the time stamp again. Somewhere in the middle, then after a while it was alright, then freeze again. I tried watching the second time after flashing the beta firmware. Same and in fact it got worse, in between the scenes some weird skipping/screeching sound. got worried then i switched it off. Kids got upset with me, thinking i barred them from watching. Thank God i have the soft copy version, saved my day!
Post by: CASH on January 12, 2017, 18:19
if i had, i would test it out.
is it a region A or B or all region br disc bro?
then can even dig deeper to find out more, if this disc production company has issues already..
but got to rely on other bro's to share (not the ones who quietly crawl back into their little holes!!)..since i don't have this br movie..
Post by: ronildoq on January 12, 2017, 18:24
Post by: CASH on January 12, 2017, 18:29
now that u talk about tripping....
it happened to my Onkyo(AKA Pioneer RZ3100) jus now when bro BadEnglish was here for my Whale's demo session....
it was connected to my oppo203...
so looks like the oppo203 is giving out power surges for equipment connected to it..
hmmmm....
SLT, u guy's better delve deep into this issue..
Post by: CASH on January 12, 2017, 18:32
Post by: CASH on January 12, 2017, 18:35
pls do update us, if u have given feedback to oppo headquarters about this issue.
and what was their reply too...
Post by: ronildoq on January 12, 2017, 18:36
Were you playing normal bluray disc? or UHD disc?
Post by: CASH on January 12, 2017, 18:40
anyway, it was all regular Br discs... no 4K disc were played..
all jus regular demo br discs..
Post by: petetherock on January 12, 2017, 21:32
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/149-blu-ray-players/2707945-panasonic-dmp-ub900-versus-oppo-udp-203-uhd-blu-ray-players-all-comparisons.html
Post by: ahduck on January 13, 2017, 00:24
Watched the free Mad Max Fury Road last night.
1st 2 Chapters has the shutter..
Audio /video sync slowly develops until chapter 8 which is too obvious til I had to gohead and goestan one chapter to 're-sync' so the lipsync will go back to normal.
After the movie ends, I ejected the disc, the unit hangs. No response on remote control. Had to hold power button to force shutdown. Restart and close disc tray and shutdown again..
Post by: CASH on January 13, 2017, 05:48
i will wait for SLT to call, or text, or email me... regarding the power surge that caused my Onkyo RZ3100 to shutdown. (my witness was bro BadEnglish), so i aint lying about it.
Cash - 96660233
Post by: CASH on January 13, 2017, 05:51
yes, its from them...
Post by: desray on January 13, 2017, 09:38
Post by: CASH on January 13, 2017, 10:29
Post by: wizardofoz on January 13, 2017, 11:26
never once did my Onkyo(AKA Pioneer RZ3100) trip when i was using my Oppo 103D...
Bro you got so many gears in yr place easy to trip...trust me as a qualified electrical repair guy for mains powered equipment...
What exactly tripped..if it was the main breaker (with the ELCB - BLUE test button) then it could be any number of items as a combination of earth leakage...this is seldom caused by one unit and if it does it would happen regularly. If it was just the circuit for the HIFI power then you overloaded the available current of that circuit...the Oppo alone could not cause that and still be useable again.
Your HDB normally has only 30mA EL IIRC rating and so many switch mode supplies with chargers and computers and hifi gear will cumulate and sometimes exceed this small amount...this is to protect your life in the event of any human related leakage detectable but sometimes can be triggered by excessive combined leakage.
I very much doubt it was the Oppo or any other one piece of gear.
This is not the support forum for Oppo so I don't expect Oppo or any other distributor to chime in here at anyones request for the relevant distributor to do so.
If SLT does choose to respond that is his choice...but you don't see Emotiva or Clarence jumping in on every emotiva issue... and can forget about ever even getting close to a D&M or Pioneer rep chiming in.
Post by: CASH on January 13, 2017, 12:13
only my Onkyo n my LG tv died..
i believe the was a surge in power coming through the oppo via the HDMI cables into the onkyo, then it goes into my tv..
weird i know...
but that was how things unravelled yesterday during the demo..
my hifi n ht set has a dedicated electrical out from ELCB.
paid $500 to a qualified electrician to run the separate power lines for ht n hifi..
Post by: CASH on January 13, 2017, 12:39
I jus want SLT to inform OPPO headquarters about this anomaly..
N then keep us users informed on weather this is an issue that has to be looked into..
We are a tiny red dot on the world map..
So maybe it's been rushed out to fast before any comprehensive testing was done..
In USA, OPPO would not want to chance it..
Very easy for lawsuits to fly over there..
Not in our tiny red dot..
Cheers bro..
No malice intended..
Post by: wizardofoz on January 13, 2017, 13:15
Post by: ronildoq on January 13, 2017, 13:22
Guys, I have notified SLT of the "playback bug" for the normal bluray titles...He will update Oppo developer team. I guess we just need to wait for the next firmware release. Fingers crossed.
Thanks Des! Just got a call from SLT, they will drop by my place to verify the playback issue and copy the log files for Oppo HQ to troubleshoot the issue. Great service from SLT i must say.
Hopefully Oppo is then able to zoom in to the problem and fix it with the next firmware upgrade.
Post by: CASH on January 13, 2017, 13:28
within a few seconds..
anyway, my set is going in for testing at the labs for a week..
hope the bug or whatever thats causing it can be rectified..
cheers!
Post by: bluepill193 on January 13, 2017, 14:18
Post by: wizardofoz on January 13, 2017, 15:31
the onkyo n lg tv came back on after powering them back on again..
within a few seconds..
anyway, my set is going in for testing at the labs for a week..
hope the bug or whatever thats causing it can be rectified..
cheers!
Maybe a CEC bug / issue thats about the only thing on HDMI that can do a shutdown? - and CEC is buggy as hell !!!
Post by: wizardofoz on January 13, 2017, 15:36
Jailbreak will only be available once the current cycle of firmware rounds get stabilised I think, then we can start that too... it takes time to work the JB's into the firmware release cycle as each is customised (like iPhone JB) to work on a given firmware, so one lags the other always by some month or 2...whats around now won't work once the new firmwares are coming to fix small issues on the table right now. Best to wait this window of many firmware updates until you get into the JB cycles.
Post by: CASH on January 13, 2017, 15:44
It will be in the workshop for a week, to try n replicate the problem that I have raised..
Good work SLT.
KUDO's!!
Cheers!
In the meantime I shall use my XBOX ONE S as a backup player..
No Atmos or DTSX.. But as long as it can play, demo's at my place will carry on.
;D
Post by: CASH on January 13, 2017, 15:45
Hehehehe!!!
Post by: desray on January 13, 2017, 16:19
Thanks Des! Just got a call from SLT, they will drop by my place to verify the playback issue and copy the log files for Oppo HQ to troubleshoot the issue. Great service from SLT i must say.
Hopefully Oppo is then able to zoom in to the problem and fix it with the next firmware upgrade.
You are welcome...
Post by: petetherock on January 13, 2017, 18:32
Post by: ahduck on January 13, 2017, 18:35
Good to hear about the feedback.. I have stutters, freezes etc.. so I keenly await an official FW update..U no try public beta see if it solves your problem..
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Post by: petetherock on January 13, 2017, 18:40
U no try public beta see if it solves your problem..Not fond of beta stuff... my Oppo 83 Nuforce has been updated twice and works well. I understand that the 203 is a work in progress, so I rather sit back and wait until the issues are sorted. IT & PCs are not my strong suite... cheers
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Post by: ahduck on January 13, 2017, 18:54
Not fond of beta stuff... my Oppo 83 Nuforce has been updated twice and works well. I understand that the 203 is a work in progress, so I rather sit back and wait until the issues are sorted. IT & PCs are not my strong suite... cheersYah. Quite true. I don't like to use beta too. But since is my 1st Oppo. So I try try play around. Wanna see how the FW upgrade works and how long does the process takes.. hopefully they release the official FW soon.
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Post by: petetherock on January 19, 2017, 09:00
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/149-blu-ray-players/2707945-panasonic-dmp-ub900-versus-oppo-udp-203-uhd-blu-ray-players-all-comparisons-7.html#post49985617 (http://www.avsforum.com/forum/149-blu-ray-players/2707945-panasonic-dmp-ub900-versus-oppo-udp-203-uhd-blu-ray-players-all-comparisons-7.html#post49985617)
You can read more on the link, but the conclusion is interesting..
Quote
The pana at all times in use no matter the discs played has been faultless... no drop outs...no freezes... no reboots, no crashes no lock ups. With the oppo on the other hand...can be infuriating ... there are times with the oppo will get through a disc...and others like the shallows uhd with its continuous audio drop outs...at some times ...and then will just play through at others....the times when was trying to play the good fellas uhd where it kept freezing at the same point and then going back to the start of the disc... till eventually it would just play through and continue to play through at other times have checked it...this aspect of the oppo is very frustrating .. where can now sit there wondering when it would start mis behaving... and the pana by contrast is such a relief where can just watch a movie and enjoy...
Audio wise
With audio bit streaming off both players... I have not found ANY difference audio wise. and neither there should be. this is putting aside the audio drop outs of the oppo. and talking about sound quality here. Obviously the versatility of the oppo is there as a universal disc player and it does a wonderfull job with sacd and DVDA ...great to hear these discs again...however wiht a black mark of a audio drop out on the very lovely Steely dan gaucho DVDA that decided to have a drop out to interrupt enjoying it.
Some conclusions
The oppo looks a lovely made player, solid in construction and with its conventional build it is perfect a player in sense for a system such as mine. With a player of its calibre and also in its capability with not only video and disc capability but also in multichannel audio. However it is badly let down in use. Frustrating infuriating when it interrupts the listening and viewing experience with its bugs and issues. I've been an early adopter of DVD, HD-DVD, Blu-ray owning first of players in all these formats and while have put up with some aspects of their first release as players its a first for me to own a player such as this in the oppo where its issues actually is so interfering in what should be enjoying music and movies. So while the pana was a very reluctant purchase for me... and perhaps while not a perfect fit in form or capabilites (lacking multichannel ability) - where the pana wins big time is on two fronts...that it works and works seamlessly that it doesnt get in the way of the experience ...instead lets you enjoy it...and immensely with the picture qualtiy its capable off.
So on that note I said good bye to the oppo today. I returned it to a retailer I bought from and is the first item I returned to that retailer in the 30 years of dealing with them ! Thank goodness have retailer like that, that are supportive in taking it back. Its a relief for me moving on form the oppo. And will enjoy the pana for what it is. The oppo will re visit perhaps in 6 months time, its just not ready for prime time right now. perhaps they rushed it to market. Perhaps too many firsts for them. Perhaps oppo will get over the kind of issues they have with this player, not just the bugs but also improve the picture side of things to bring on par with the pana. I'd love them to get there ... as for sure I would love to have the oppo back in my system and have it do all the things I hope it will....
Post by: ps2br on January 20, 2017, 01:02
I gotten the jailbreak firmware for my Oppo UDP-203 and I can confirm that BD ISO/BDMV file structure worked fine after the flash. CAUTION: DO NOT update the latest Beta firmware after you've flashed your player with the JB firmware lest lose the "added features" of the JB firmware.
I think SLT will release the JB firmware soon. Hang on tight for those looking to get it for playback of your BD ISO collection. ;)
Hello Friend, does BD-ISO support external subtitles?
Thanks,
Mauricio
Post by: desray on January 20, 2017, 08:01
Changelogs at a glance...
Resolved an issue where the Home Menu was fixed to a 60 Hz frame rate.
Resolved an HDCP 2.2 failure when connecting to an HDCP 2.2 receiver and an older, non-HDCP 2.2 display.
Resolved a black screen issue with certain UHD titles after resuming playback.
Improved a micro-stuttering issue when outputting UHD, BD, and DVD titles at 24 Hz.
Resolved an SACD playback issue where the player would immediately return to the Home Menu.
Optimized disc loader performance for better disc compatibility and spin speed control.
Resolved an issue where the player could not recognize music files when using Serviio server.
Resolved an issue where the RS-232 command #SRC would not work on the UDP-203.
Pressing and holding the Resolution button on the remote for three seconds will reset the player’s Output Resolution, HDR, Color Space, and Color Depth settings to factory defaults.
Improved the gapless playback feature for audio files.
The Home Menu now supports a wrap-around function.
Improved the over-saturation of colors when using the experimental Strip Metadata feature. Please note that the black level is temporarily fixed to a very low level when enabling the Strip Metadata feature.
All features of the previous firmware are also included in this version.
Thanks to SLT for the update... ;)
Post by: petetherock on January 20, 2017, 08:59
No news on playing those files from the last demo?
Post by: ahduck on January 20, 2017, 09:06
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Post by: ronildoq on January 20, 2017, 12:28
Anyway, SLT dropped by and witnessed the screeching sound and screen freeze, collected the log files for further feedback to HQ. That should give HQ something to work with. Been advised to also install the original firmware and NOT to go with betas...
Post by: petetherock on January 21, 2017, 10:57
New firmware just released yesterday: http://oppodigital.com/blu-ray-udp-203/UDP203-firmware-33-1229.aspx (http://oppodigital.com/blu-ray-udp-203/UDP203-firmware-33-1229.aspx)The new FW has fixed some of the issues for me:
Changelogs at a glance...
Resolved an issue where the Home Menu was fixed to a 60 Hz frame rate.
Resolved an HDCP 2.2 failure when connecting to an HDCP 2.2 receiver and an older, non-HDCP 2.2 display.
Resolved a black screen issue with certain UHD titles after resuming playback.
Improved a micro-stuttering issue when outputting UHD, BD, and DVD titles at 24 Hz.
Resolved an SACD playback issue where the player would immediately return to the Home Menu.
Optimized disc loader performance for better disc compatibility and spin speed control.
Resolved an issue where the player could not recognize music files when using Serviio server.
Resolved an issue where the RS-232 command #SRC would not work on the UDP-203.
Pressing and holding the Resolution button on the remote for three seconds will reset the player’s Output Resolution, HDR, Color Space, and Color Depth settings to factory defaults.
Improved the gapless playback feature for audio files.
The Home Menu now supports a wrap-around function.
Improved the over-saturation of colors when using the experimental Strip Metadata feature. Please note that the black level is temporarily fixed to a very low level when enabling the Strip Metadata feature.
All features of the previous firmware are also included in this version.
Thanks to SLT for the update... ;)
Able to pass a signal from the Oppo to my Marantz amp to a plasma FHD TV.
But I still have issues with some discs - eg 13 Hours, it stutters around chapter 15, when they begin hurling petrol bombs into the compound, anyone else having this?
Post by: CASH on January 21, 2017, 12:11
they didn't find any issues with it.
hooked it up, n new firmware loaded in.
all looks n feels good.
Post by: petetherock on January 26, 2017, 07:56
Where's the Darbee?
And this is why What Hifi reviews have gone down the toilet.. ;D
Quote
There is scope to tweak the picture using Oppo’s DARBEE image processing system, but it’s not subtle enough to make any useful improvements. We’d stick to fine-tuning your TV or projector’s picture when needed.
Read more at http://www.whathifi.com/oppo/udp-203/review#m6LGQRd1Yc2OmP1s.99
Post by: petetherock on January 26, 2017, 08:07
https://www.avforums.com/review/oppo-udp-203-4k-ultra-hd-blu-ray-player-review.13335 (https://www.avforums.com/review/oppo-udp-203-4k-ultra-hd-blu-ray-player-review.13335)
Amazingly, this reviewer had a totally fuss free experience.. what a rare occurrence ;)
Post by: petetherock on January 26, 2017, 08:10
http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/blu-ray-cd-dvd-media-player-reviews/164177-oppo-digital-udp-4k-ultra-hd-blu-ray-disc-player-review.html
Post by: Samkay on February 10, 2017, 01:08
Post by: joagib on February 10, 2017, 12:06
Can anybody please guide me on how to obtain the jb firmware for the 203. I have it on my 103D and I cannot live without it ;D since all of my movies are in ISO format. Any help would be greatly appreciated :)Firstly where and who you purchased your 203 from?
Post by: CASH on February 10, 2017, 12:14
the JB firmware would be easier to hack n develop.
the sets sold in Singapore are American sets.
and in America its very very illegal to reverse engineer the firmware..
in Europe, the laws are much more relaxed.
in China, even better.. no control!!
Post by: Samkay on February 10, 2017, 13:41
Firstly where and who you purchased your 203 from?Crutchfield USA. Has anyone tried the one from BD-MOD?
Post by: CASH on February 10, 2017, 13:57
its a American set...
Post by: joagib on February 10, 2017, 13:58
Crutchfield USA. Has anyone tried the one from BD-MOD?Can share whats the price you paid including shipping/gst/exchange rate to reach here?
Post by: CASH on February 10, 2017, 14:01
Post by: CASH on February 10, 2017, 14:30
so far 2 times already, my disc is stuck behind in the machine when u eject it..
the tray comes out empty, with the disc stuck way back in the machine..
got to use my fingers to reach in n manually pull the disc out.
anyone else got this same issue?
Post by: dXter on February 10, 2017, 14:46
Post by: CASH on February 10, 2017, 15:00
the whole transport assembly will have to be replaced..
balancing is not firm..
that's y the disc gets uprooted to sit at the back of the machine.
Post by: CASH on February 10, 2017, 15:01
Post by: whitesox on February 10, 2017, 16:33
I don't think it can be fixed by firmware update..
the whole transport assembly will have to be replaced..
balancing is not firm..
that's y the disc gets uprooted to sit at the back of the machine.
Bug's bite...
I still use old player Pioneer bdp LX-71.. Old (damn super slow) but free of bugs
Post by: wizardofoz on February 10, 2017, 17:38
I guess wait n see what happens in the places where the 203 is being discussed.
Post by: Samkay on February 10, 2017, 22:00
I think bro Samkay is from USA bro...Yes USA. Has anyone tried the jb from BD-MOD ?
Post by: petetherock on February 15, 2017, 09:01
Might be a spin down timer issue that its not stopped spinning before it opens and spins out of the tray...that could be fixed in firmware...but Ive not seen anyone else mention this issue.+1
I guess wait n see what happens in the places where the 203 is being discussed.
No issues with my 203 drive.
There are some stutters etc, but no disc gets stuck.
And that isn't one of the faults reported commonly in the AVS or AV forums, so let's see if there are more or is it an isolated case.
Oppo will need to continue to watch the faults reporting, and fix them as they come. But their track record has been pretty good.
Post by: wizardofoz on February 15, 2017, 11:39
Post by: CASH on February 15, 2017, 12:23
he has allowed me to share with the Oppo 203 user's that he too had the same problem that I faced.
(Disc stuck at the back of tray upon ejecting)
so far it has happened once for his case.
for me, it has happened about 4 times already..
Post by: CASH on February 15, 2017, 13:20
so now it's minus 2..
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Post by: wizardofoz on February 15, 2017, 15:55
Post by: CASH on February 15, 2017, 16:05
Hehehe!!
Because I know it will make the discs unbalanced too..
I use marker pen to write on the burned discs..
But anyway, this issue is not isolated to me alone..
There are many members here that do not actively participate in the forum..
They choose to remain silent n rely on vocal people like us, ( may I include u too? Hehehe!! )
For info such as these issues..
I for one, will never remain silent if there are issues..
Even my beloved brand "Onkyo AVR's" has been dished by me due to the cross breeding with "Pioneer"
It ain't the same no more.
I will still report anomalies, as they pop up.
It's for all to see.
I know there are others with this issue, but will still hold their peace forever..
Post by: CASH on February 16, 2017, 00:36
no one wants to comment..
many members here, adopt the kiasu syndrome...(Singaporean attitude, by the way, i am pure singaporean too, n i definitely have never voted for PAP!!!!)
i dont subscribe to the kiasu syndrome. ( my idol is JB J...n not the old fart!! )
i speak when i need to.
no one can hold me back from doing so.
so, its up to u to believe it or not.
so far, me n bro Gerlim have experienced this anomaly...
up to oppo to get things in order.
that is all i have to say.
unless, some other Ballsy Bro's who have encountered this same issue, say so too.
hehehehe!!!!
Post by: flanker on February 16, 2017, 07:47
Touchwood...so far lucky no encounter on stuck disc..
But very happi...Bro Kelvinsin recommended me JB firmware..of course muz pay $$ but still worth.
Reason, even u dnt use bootleg disc...DL materials also kena..which irritates many bros here...
Don't hv a solution for the disc stuck problem, maybe to open up the cover of the 203, see whether can find any eject button behind the BD drive itself...juz a thought ;D ;D
Post by: flanker on February 16, 2017, 07:52
Alamak..u r rite then transport issue..some how spindle nvr release disc.
copy all yr BD disc to HDD then ...play via NAS / USB ;D ;D
Post by: wizardofoz on February 16, 2017, 10:09
Post by: flanker on February 16, 2017, 11:56
Perhaps during transport they left the drive mechanism protection material on, which happens to be sticky.
Juz guessing.
Post by: dXter on February 16, 2017, 12:45
Post by: CASH on February 16, 2017, 13:06
I don't have habit of ejecting discs without pressing stop button.
Post by: Samkay on February 16, 2017, 16:50
Bro Cash..I hope to resolve my JB issues soon
Touchwood...so far lucky no encounter on stuck disc..
But very happi...Bro Kelvinsin recommended me JB firmware..of course muz pay $$ but still worth.
Reason, even u dnt use bootleg disc...DL materials also kena..which irritates many bros here...
Don't hv a solution for the disc stuck problem, maybe to open up the cover of the 203, see whether can find any eject button behind the BD drive itself...juz a thought ;D ;D
Post by: CASH on February 16, 2017, 16:56
Post by: Samkay on February 16, 2017, 17:12
Samkay, read the oppo 103 thread.. all details there n who to contact for jb firmware.Thank you.
Post by: ahduck on February 18, 2017, 15:48
https://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-udp-203/UDP203-firmware-38-0215B.aspx
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Post by: DaMacFunkin on February 18, 2017, 16:05
https://www.oppodigital.co.uk/beta-firmware-UDP20XEU-players.html
Post by: wizardofoz on February 18, 2017, 19:33
Post by: CASH on February 18, 2017, 21:01
no hiccups during the 40 seconds update time.
pls don't update if u want JB firmware....
Post by: ronildoq on February 18, 2017, 21:13
Public Beta UDP20X-38-0215B is out.
https://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-udp-203/UDP203-firmware-38-0215B.aspx
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i skip the beta firmwares, they are betas because it is not fully ready, still in testing phase. Best wait for the official version.
Post by: DaMacFunkin on February 18, 2017, 22:09
i skip the beta firmwares, they are betas because it is not fully ready, still in testing phase. Best wait for the official version.The Public Beta's are actually release candidates, the Beta testing has already been done and these are the final test to make sure it works like it should.
The Last 2 Public Betas have been gone on to become the Official release version's.
Remember you can downgrade a beta to previous official release so there is no reason not to use them unless you have JB.
Post by: ahduck on February 18, 2017, 22:59
i skip the beta firmwares, they are betas because it is not fully ready, still in testing phase. Best wait for the official version.I'm a 1st time Oppo BR player owner.
And for almost of my all other hardware, I always use official FW. (except Asus router, I only use John Fork or Merlin's)
But strangely for 203, personally I feel safer to use beta as I can always revert back to previous version. Should thing happen.
Currently I'm on the close beta 0122b.
Seems to solve my audio and 3D issues.
Will try the 0215b shortly to see if handshake issue improves.
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Post by: desray on February 18, 2017, 23:16
Of course, if you want to be more cautious, you can always wait for the official release.
Post by: DaMacFunkin on February 21, 2017, 01:42
Post by: wizardofoz on February 21, 2017, 01:44
Post by: Samkay on February 24, 2017, 05:45
Just want to let all the UDP-203 owners that I'm using the jb firmware from BD-MOD and it works great! I now have full ISO and BD folder support and cinavia is also fixed. Only issue I'm having is that I'm stuck with version 1209 as 1229 is not working yet.
I am in contact with BD-MOD for a fix and as soon as it becomes available I will let everyone know.
So if you are looking for a great JB firmware for your UDP-203 look no further and go with BD-MOD!
If you have questions I'll gladly answer them in PM
Post by: desray on February 24, 2017, 07:10
Hi everybody.
Just want to let all the UDP-203 owners that I'm using the jb firmware from BD-MOD and it works great! I now have full ISO and BD folder support and cinavia is also fixed. Only issue I'm having is that I'm stuck with version 1209 as 1229 is not working yet.
I am in contact with BD-MOD for a fix and as soon as it becomes available I will let everyone know.
So if you are looking for a great JB firmware for your UDP-203 look no further and go with BD-MOD!
If you have questions I'll gladly answer them in PM
Not true...the JB version for 1229 has already been released since last last week. I have been using it. Do a search for it. If you already have the encrypt.dat file. All you need is the updated version of the .bin file to replace and then perform an upgrade.
Post by: Samkay on February 24, 2017, 07:28
Not true...the JB version for 1229 has already been released since last last week. I have been using it. Do a search for it. If you already have the encrypt.dat file. All you need is the updated version of the .bin file to replace and then perform an upgrade.If it's working for you then you are lucky cause I have tried multiple times with no success and had to revert back to 1219.
Post by: flanker on February 24, 2017, 08:01
if JB 1209 works well , why go for 1229
Post by: Samkay on February 24, 2017, 08:07
any advantage to go for 1229?Of course there is. Bug fixes and improvements.
if JB 1209 works well , why go for 1229
Post by: flanker on February 24, 2017, 08:08
can share
Thx
Post by: Samkay on February 24, 2017, 08:14
wat are the bugs / improvementRefer to the Oppo website for release notes.
can share
Thx
Post by: ahduck on February 28, 2017, 08:25
https://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-udp-203/UDP203-firmware-38-0222.aspx
Release date: February 27, 2017.
Category: Latest Official Release
Main Version: UDP20X-38-0222
Loader Version: TF0029
MCU Version: MCU203-01-1118
Release Notes:
This release is for the OPPO UDP-203 4K UHD Blu-ray Disc Player.
Special Notice:
Once this firmware version is installed on the player, you will not be able to revert back to any previous official or public beta firmware. There will be no problem upgrading to any future official or beta firmware release.
Comparing to the current Official release version UDP20X-33-1229, the major changes included in this version are:
Added the "Target Luminance" setting under HDR Settings to allow tweaking of the HDR to SDR conversion.
Added the RS-232 command "QHS" for querying the HDR playback status.
Added support for the HEVC 6.0 and 6.1 profile levels.
Improved the experimental "Strip Metadata" feature.
Improved stability when playing music from DLNA servers.
Improved compatibility with exFAT formatted hard drives over 2TB in capacity.
Resolved a stuttering playback issue with 3D titles.
Resolved an audio dropout issue with UHD title "Deepwater Horizon".
Resolved a playback issue with UHD title “Star Trek Into Darkness”.
Revised the VFD text during a firmware upgrade that allows customers to upgrade the firmware without connecting a display.
Resolved a black screen issue when streaming 4K content via the player's HDMI In port from Roku and other 4K streaming devices.
General disc compatibility improvements based on recent and upcoming UHD Blu-ray releases as well as user-submitted disc samples.
All features of the previous firmware are also included in this version.
Post by: ahduck on February 28, 2017, 08:37
Is the any speed difference when using USB2.0 and USB3.0 flashdrive?
Post by: CASH on February 28, 2017, 08:46
thks.
;)
Post by: dXter on February 28, 2017, 09:41
Post by: ronildoq on February 28, 2017, 11:04
New Firmware Update
https://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-udp-203/UDP203-firmware-38-0222.aspx
Release date: February 27, 2017.
Category: Latest Official Release
Main Version: UDP20X-38-0222
Loader Version: TF0029
MCU Version: MCU203-01-1118
Release Notes:
This release is for the OPPO UDP-203 4K UHD Blu-ray Disc Player.
Special Notice:
Once this firmware version is installed on the player, you will not be able to revert back to any previous official or public beta firmware. There will be no problem upgrading to any future official or beta firmware release.
Comparing to the current Official release version UDP20X-33-1229, the major changes included in this version are:
Added the "Target Luminance" setting under HDR Settings to allow tweaking of the HDR to SDR conversion.
Added the RS-232 command "QHS" for querying the HDR playback status.
Added support for the HEVC 6.0 and 6.1 profile levels.
Improved the experimental "Strip Metadata" feature.
Improved stability when playing music from DLNA servers.
Improved compatibility with exFAT formatted hard drives over 2TB in capacity.
Resolved a stuttering playback issue with 3D titles.
Resolved an audio dropout issue with UHD title "Deepwater Horizon".
Resolved a playback issue with UHD title “Star Trek Into Darkness”.
Revised the VFD text during a firmware upgrade that allows customers to upgrade the firmware without connecting a display.
Resolved a black screen issue when streaming 4K content via the player's HDMI In port from Roku and other 4K streaming devices.
General disc compatibility improvements based on recent and upcoming UHD Blu-ray releases as well as user-submitted disc samples.
All features of the previous firmware are also included in this version.
So this version now doesn't allow us to revert to previous firmware.....interesting. Thanks for sharing bro....
Post by: CASH on February 28, 2017, 11:10
but there is a way...
get in touch with the Chinese vendor that does the JB firmware.
then can revert to any older official or JB firmware.
Post by: kelvinsin on February 28, 2017, 12:48
Post by: kelvinsin on February 28, 2017, 12:52
Btw, sometimes later they may release the jailbreak again, becoz without it, oppo may lost its advantage in this market.
Post by: ahduck on February 28, 2017, 13:36
And the latest new, jailbreak is no longer available for all model (except version 1209)! Those bros who slow action can just cry...Wah that's sad as I was waiting for the machine to stabilise and have a more mature FW before committing.
Btw, sometimes later they may release the jailbreak again, becoz without it, oppo may lost its advantage in this market.
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Post by: petetherock on February 28, 2017, 13:36
And the latest new, jailbreak is no longer available for all model (except version 1209)! Those bros who slow action can just cry...Thanks for the info, so the jailbreak offers region free playback? Anything else?
Btw, sometimes later they may release the jailbreak again, becoz without it, oppo may lost its advantage in this market.
BTW, how much was the update?
Actually I have been using another player for my region free playback and also for playing files which the Oppo can't. Very happy with that player :)
Post by: CASH on February 28, 2017, 13:44
its a all in one wonder, by the way!
hehehehe!!!
:D ;D
Post by: flanker on February 28, 2017, 13:49
And the occasional bootleg disc
DL materials seemed to be released much faster then the original release.
Moreover, movies that has plenty of dialogue dnt have lots of sound effects, except sound track. so DL materials will suffice.
Post by: ahduck on February 28, 2017, 14:51
Thanks for the info, so the jailbreak offers region free playback? Anything else?
BTW, how much was the update?
Actually I have been using another player for my region free playback and also for playing files which the Oppo can't. Very happy with that player :)
Apparently the JB FW does offer region free playback of optical disc. For BR is changing the system language.
Price indicate is USD$99.99 in their website.
For me is I trying to delete the amount of hardware (PS4 and Android Media Box) in HT loop and let 203 do all video job.
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Post by: ronildoq on February 28, 2017, 16:39
Post by: ahduck on February 28, 2017, 16:54
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Post by: wizardofoz on February 28, 2017, 17:28
Post by: DaMacFunkin on March 02, 2017, 01:59
And the latest new, jailbreak is no longer available for all model (except version 1209)! Those bros who slow action can just cry...Not true, i had UDP20XEU-33-1229 official on my EU 203, and updated to 1229EU JB no problems.
Btw, sometimes later they may release the jailbreak again, becoz without it, oppo may lost its advantage in this market.
P.S. anybody know the eta of UDP20XEU-38-0222 JB?
Post by: Samkay on March 02, 2017, 11:04
Post by: kelvinsin on March 02, 2017, 11:46
Not true, i had UDP20XEU-33-1229 official on my EU 203, and updated to 1229EU JB no problems.If you have read my previous comment, only those who jailbreak after the deadline date will impact, because now u cant register the jailbreak with your serial no.
P.S. anybody know the eta of UDP20XEU-38-0222 JB?
You may ask anyone who yet jailbreak try for it, please report to us if any seller still selling new jailbreak request.
Post by: petetherock on March 02, 2017, 15:59
Apparently the JB FW does offer region free playback of optical disc. For BR is changing the system language.
Price indicate is USD$99.99 in their website.
For me is I trying to delete the amount of hardware (PS4 and Android Media Box) in HT loop and let 203 do all video job.
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Not cheap.. Good thing I still have a functional 83 Nuforce which is region free too.
Post by: Samkay on March 02, 2017, 20:52
If you have read my previous comment, only those who jailbreak after the deadline date will impact, because now u cant register the jailbreak with your serial no.I'm confused... If Oppo pulled the plug on JB how come 1209 is still offered?
You may ask anyone who yet jailbreak try for it, please report to us if any seller still selling new jailbreak request.
Post by: kelvinsin on March 02, 2017, 21:52
I'm confused... If Oppo pulled the plug on JB how come 1209 is still offered?I have really no idea the logic behind, but this is the fact now facing. Dun put hope they will release new jailbreak firmware in the coming few weeks, may be months.
Post by: DaMacFunkin on March 03, 2017, 02:41
If you have read my previous comment, only those who jailbreak after the deadline date will impact, because now u cant register the jailbreak with your serial no.Sorry mate i find it hard to follow what you say (Lost in Translation)...
You may ask anyone who yet jailbreak try for it, please report to us if any seller still selling new jailbreak request.
Are you saying there will not be new Jailbreak Firmware for 203 owners who already have Jailbreak?
Post by: Mattbee on March 03, 2017, 23:06
Post by: DaMacFunkin on March 04, 2017, 02:56
I'm also slightly confused as I have noticed the latest JB has been removed from bdmod, so I'm on the last beta firmware 20XEU-33-1229B can I still JB or is too late as I understand oppo received a warning. Holding off updating just Incase.I think...
1. If you have Jailbreak you will be able to receive newer JB if they become available.
2. If you have not Jailbreak, you still can - only if you still have 1209 official firmware. (I don't know why there is this loop hole)
3. You can Import a Jailbreak Oppo 203 Player from China and continue to receive Jailbreak updates.
This is how i understand it, I am waiting for Rong to answer my e-mails.
If anybody else understands it a different way please comment.
Post by: Mattbee on March 04, 2017, 07:06
Post by: ahduck on March 04, 2017, 14:53
So what about the option here http://bluraysolution.com/20x_solution.html has anybody used this service? And will this still work for fw version 1229b as it suggests.I think this is for EU version. I believe our machine are US version.
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Post by: crazysurfer on March 04, 2017, 15:00
I think this is for EU version. I believe our machine are US version.
Thought US is 110 VAC while EU is 230 VAC, so shouldn't our machine be the EU version instead?
Post by: kelvinsin on March 04, 2017, 15:01
I think...Yes, same thought as what i received from rong.
1. If you have Jailbreak you will be able to receive newer JB if they become available.
2. If you have not Jailbreak, you still can - only if you still have 1209 official firmware. (I don't know why there is this loop hole)
3. You can Import a Jailbreak Oppo 203 Player from China and continue to receive Jailbreak updates.
This is how i understand it, I am waiting for Rong to answer my e-mails.
If anybody else understands it a different way please comment.
Post by: petetherock on March 04, 2017, 15:05
Thought US is 110 VAC while EU is 230 VAC, so shouldn't our machine be the EU version instead?Our machines are universal voltage. But the Firmware is US..
Post by: desray on March 04, 2017, 15:08
Our machines are universal voltage. But the Firmware is US..
Pete is right...it is never about the hardware - player in this case but the firmware version that comes with it. I think I am the either the ONLY one or one of the FEW here in Singapore managed to get the 2nd version of the JB - 1229 before it was taken off the web.
Post by: kelvinsin on March 04, 2017, 15:28
Post by: Mattbee on March 04, 2017, 17:47
Post by: wyvern on March 04, 2017, 17:56
Tried playing a BD ISO and is working so I assume the jb is successful.
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Post by: DaMacFunkin on March 04, 2017, 19:33
Ok so I have a UK player so http://bluraysolution.com/20x_solution.html is only option for me to JB with 1229b fw. Is that correct?I think you may have to email them, any attempt to download from the firmware link just opens an email window, TBH if existing JB owners can not get future updates it has been a waste of time, there are many bugs in 1229 firmware, also future updates will introduce Dolby Vision and streaming apps.
Post by: DaMacFunkin on March 04, 2017, 19:38
Get the china set, still available for 1229 even now.I thought with motherboard USB adapter we could cross flash the Oppo, so a US / EU model could flash the Chinese firmware.
There used to be tutorials for hardware flash on rong's site but they have disappeared.
Is this still possible?
Post by: desray on March 04, 2017, 21:59
Managed to jb from taobao for rmb300..approx sgd$60. Much cheaper than US$99. And got it running on version 1229. Guess this will be the last jb firmware based on the discussion here.
Tried playing a BD ISO and is working so I assume the jb is successful.
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Yes. that's right.
Post by: kelvinsin on March 05, 2017, 09:42
Managed to jb from taobao for rmb300..approx sgd$60. Much cheaper than US$99. And got it running on version 1229. Guess this will be the last jb firmware based on the discussion here.
Tried playing a BD ISO and is working so I assume the jb is successful.
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Bro you are US set? May I know when you got the jailbreak file?
Post by: wyvern on March 05, 2017, 09:45
Bro you are US set? May I know when you got the jailbreak file?Got the set from SLT. Just got the jb file last Fri. It takes them up to 48hrs to email the file. If you are keen, can share the link of the tb store that offers it.
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Post by: WIM on March 05, 2017, 09:54
Can PM me the Taobao store that offers the RMB300 jb ?
Thousand thanks in advance
Post by: yuriais on March 05, 2017, 11:48
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Post by: shenzenus on March 05, 2017, 12:25
anyway, on a separate note, I know of, one more bro, other than me that has experienced the loader transport mechanism for the oppo 203 sucks...
so far 2 times already, my disc is stuck behind in the machine when u eject it..
the tray comes out empty, with the disc stuck way back in the machine..
got to use my fingers to reach in n manually pull the disc out.
anyone else got this same issue?
Post by: shenzenus on March 05, 2017, 12:27
anyway, on a separate note, I know of, one more bro, other than me that has experienced the loader transport mechanism for the oppo 203 sucks...
Post by: boe on March 05, 2017, 13:23
I'm also interested in the JB but I have a US oppo. The current firmware for the US model is UDP20x-38-0222 and I tested another JB and it was based on a previous fw edition. The US oppo model will not let you put an older firmware revision over a newer one. The only one I could find was UDPxCN-29-1209 which I'm guessing I won't be able to put on my player.
Post by: CASH on March 05, 2017, 16:58
Remember, in my earlier posting, bro Gerlim also had this problem..
Yahoo!!!!
More bro's coming in with this problem..
To me, OPPO has to look into getting the whole transport changed..
It's unstable to even place a disc back properly back into the tray...
Simple.. pure n simple..
The vendor supplying the drives have to be informed....
Post by: DaMacFunkin on March 05, 2017, 23:15
Hello,There should be a way to hardware flash the Chinese firmware, with a usb adaptor which plugs into the main board, we just need verification of this.
I'm also interested in the JB but I have a US oppo. The current firmware for the US model is UDP20x-38-0222 and I tested another JB and it was based on a previous fw edition. The US oppo model will not let you put an older firmware revision over a newer one. The only one I could find was UDPxCN-29-1209 which I'm guessing I won't be able to put on my player.
Post by: wyvern on March 05, 2017, 23:37
Hello,
I'm also interested in the JB but I have a US oppo. The current firmware for the US model is UDP20x-38-0222 and I tested another JB and it was based on a previous fw edition. The US oppo model will not let you put an older firmware revision over a newer one. The only one I could find was UDPxCN-29-1209 which I'm guessing I won't be able to put on my player.
Which version are you looking for? 1229?
Post by: freddyhappy on March 06, 2017, 00:16
I experienced this last night. Tray opened without the disc :o Closed the tray and opened again. Then the disc got stuck behind. Have to pull the disc out >:(
I experienced this last night also. Didnt manage to pull the disc, couldnt see it at all. The tray opened without the discs inside then close it back again.
Post by: crazysurfer on March 06, 2017, 00:25
I experienced this last night also. Didnt manage to pull the disc, couldnt see it at all. The tray opened without the discs inside then close it back again.
So how did you manage to get the disc out?
Post by: petetherock on March 06, 2017, 00:27
I experienced this last night also. Didnt manage to pull the disc, couldnt see it at all. The tray opened without the discs inside then close it back again.Anything special about the disc?
Commercial BR disc, or from other sources, recorded disc etc?
Post by: boe on March 06, 2017, 00:48
Which version are you looking for? 1229?
I'm looking for a jailbreak that will let me overwrite the latest UDP20x-38-0222 firmware on my Oppo. The Oppo only let's you put newer firmware as you can't go backwards. I tried with an older JB and official firmware and it wouldn't let me.
Post by: freddyhappy on March 06, 2017, 00:48
So how did you manage to get the disc out?
I couldn't, waiting SLT to contact me.
Post by: wyvern on March 06, 2017, 09:11
I'm looking for a jailbreak that will let me overwrite the latest UDP20x-38-0222 firmware on my Oppo. The Oppo only let's you put newer firmware as you can't go backwards. I tried with an older JB and official firmware and it wouldn't let me.
Yes, as far as we know, oppo firmware can't be downgraded.
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Post by: shenzenus on March 06, 2017, 09:20
I experienced this last night also. Didnt manage to pull the disc, couldnt see it at all. The tray opened without the discs inside then close it back again.
Post by: boe on March 06, 2017, 11:03
I'm looking for a jailbreak that will let me overwrite the latest UDP20x-38-0222 firmware on my Oppo. The Oppo only let's you put newer firmware as you can't go backwards. I tried with an older JB and official firmware and it wouldn't let me.
Yes, as far as we know, oppo firmware can't be downgraded.
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Thanks - is there any JB firmware available for an Oppo with my UDP20x-38-0222 firmware?
Post by: ahduck on March 06, 2017, 11:35
Unless the jailbreakers can downgrade your 203 to 1229 or earlier firmware.
Thanks - is there any JB firmware available for an Oppo with my UDP20x-38-0222 firmware?
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Post by: boe on March 06, 2017, 11:45
Unless the jailbreakers can downgrade your 203 to 1229 or earlier firmware.
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That would be fine with me if they could figure out how to do that - there weren't any benefits for me to the new firmware
Post by: kelvinsin on March 06, 2017, 11:55
That would be fine with me if they could figure out how to do that - there weren't any benefits for me to the new firmwareYes,you still can downgrade to earlier version.
Post by: boe on March 06, 2017, 23:07
Yes,you still can downgrade to earlier version.
I tried via thumb drive in my 203. On my player when I attempt to put in the jb firmware it says Your player already has a newer version UDP20x-38-0222 of the firmware. My only option is OK - I don't know how to put the JB firmware on my player again. I was able to put in on when I had the old firmware but not with the current.
Post by: Mattbee on March 07, 2017, 02:58
Post by: kelvinsin on March 07, 2017, 19:04
I tried via thumb drive in my 203. On my player when I attempt to put in the jb firmware it says Your player already has a newer version UDP20x-38-0222 of the firmware. My only option is OK - I don't know how to put the JB firmware on my player again. I was able to put in on when I had the old firmware but not with the current.Downgrade firmware is not as easy as ABC, else since donkey years ago ppl ald can know how to do so.
Post by: CASH on March 07, 2017, 22:41
may i know how many bro's have not received the invoice of your oppo 203?
till this very day, am i the only one that hasn't received the official invoice for my set purchased from SLT during the M.O???
jus me thinking out LOUD!!!
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
SLT, can i have my official invoice?
it was easy to transfer the money via bank transfer.. but to wait this long for an official invoice??
shame on u guy's...
Post by: CASH on March 07, 2017, 23:07
if i were to place an order for the oppo sonica dac, would i be the only one again that does not receive an official invoice?
Hmmmmm.....
shall i? shall i?
its easy for me to do the bank transfer, but to receive a simple invoice takes that long?
Hmmmmm.....
come on SLT, step up....
for me to bring this issue up with C.A.S.E is a simple process for me..
i did it once with K.E.C, years back when i didn't receive my cyrus cd player back after nearly 1 year of waiting when i sent it in for repair..
after i personally hand delivered the letter drafted by C.A.S.E,
K.E.C, handed me a brand new in sealed box cyrus cd player...
so pls get your act together n mail me my official invoice.
simple english comprehension spelt out for u..
;D
Post by: CASH on March 07, 2017, 23:23
y is it i don't have one?
care to explain that to me, S.L.T?
Post by: dXter on March 07, 2017, 23:26
Post by: CASH on March 07, 2017, 23:29
thks for the reply dXter.
lets see how many more bro's have not received a simple issuance of an invoice..
now i wonder how bro tiktopape got his, as its stated in his want to sell ad....
::)
Post by: CASH on March 07, 2017, 23:33
or am i wrong here?
Post by: Tiktokape on March 07, 2017, 23:33
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Post by: CASH on March 07, 2017, 23:35
till this very day...Nada!! Nothing!!
Post by: boe on March 07, 2017, 23:52
Downgrade firmware is not as easy as ABC, else since donkey years ago ppl ald can know how to do so.
I am not sure if this is a translation issue or an unknown idiom but if any knows how to downgrade the firmware on the 203 I'd love the information.
Post by: CASH on March 07, 2017, 23:54
when a official invoice is not issued at the time of purchase, something fishy goes on...(that is processed in my own mind of course!! hehehe!!)
why the hold back?
why so long?
has the paper run out for the invoice books?
Post by: wizardofoz on March 07, 2017, 23:56
bro Wizard, do you think u can get in touch with S.L.T on this issue, since you did the M.O on their behalf, Am i guessing right??
or am i wrong here?
I did the MO...They are just the supplier, it was not done on their behalf...more like I did it on behalf of the community here.
I don't want to see this happening anymore than others on the MO...The SLT guys are doing what they can when they can. I spoke with Nic just now...and yesterday morning too.
You whatsapp'd Nic and you got a response from him pretty much immediately yesterday saying he would keep you posted and it will be soon... so let them get to it as soon as they can. To be fair - you don't mention that in your post.
I also asked again before you had a few times since the info was provided. They know they are needing to get them out but like any business some things no doubt are at a higher priority than perhaps some basic followup paperwork.
Everyones details are with them, they will honour any warranty issues, and unless you are disadvantaged by a delay in the invoice then contacting them directly and accepting the response is all you need to do, just as you have done. Its not as if Nic didn't reply to you..so let them get to it.
Post by: CASH on March 08, 2017, 00:03
n I asked him also on that day when he collected my 203 spiked my avr n tv..
n I did ask u too on the day I collected my set from u..
so now, isn't it more than enough of me asking for the invoice 3 times over this few months good enough?
the warranty issues are no big deal to me...
its registered..
but I want to know the G.S.T issue now..
even when I board a taxi, at the end of the ride, the taxi driver asks me if I want a receipt..
(presuming that I am still working n can claim back the transport cost from company)
Post by: CASH on March 08, 2017, 00:10
u don't need to answer anymore..
S.L.T has to answer..
they are not a super huge company like Apple or Samsung..( So I don't know what is that word called "BUSY" )
so how many invoices actually made it to xtremeplace members that participated in the M.O?
Post by: CASH on March 08, 2017, 00:15
but I am the 30% that will stand up..
so now, I play the waiting game for an answer from S.L.T.
Post by: CASH on March 08, 2017, 00:19
but no reply ah??
Post by: wizardofoz on March 08, 2017, 00:26
That said, I am sure there are many MO's that bro's organised and those here have participated in that never got any receipts or followup paperwork. There are at least several I have purchased items on that come to mind!
Post by: CASH on March 08, 2017, 00:37
But I want a reply from S.L.T
That's all that is needed...
Looks like they are not professional to even issue out invoices..
N really bro, they are not a big company...
Jus get the invoices posted out by tomorrow, and all will be forgotten...
Jus a reminder to myself, never to get any more stuff from a so called huge company that is so busy...
Wow!!!
Apple n Samsung no matter how big, still issues invoices for u on the spot..
So bro, no excuse for a so called huge company called S.L.T..
Post by: joagib on March 08, 2017, 01:12
I havent receive mine also..but no rush bro,as far as i know Nic is running the show all by himself...so pls give him sometime.He will send out invoice to everyone once he got the time.. for those who have not received the invoice and if you need it urgently..you may send your email address to Nic,Im sure he can send an E-copy invoice to you asap..
But for you bro,tomorrow i will give a call to Nic to remind him.
At the same time,pls send Nic your email address too.
My Heart pain leh...see my brother so angry...lol
Post by: CASH on March 08, 2017, 01:18
no lah bro...
K.E.C did that to me last time..(1 year wait for a faulty CD player that cost me $2400++)
I was to patient to wait that long! stupid also!!
now, this issue of invoice... 3months wait...( N its jus a piece of paper with numerals on it!!)
I don't want to be a patient guy no more...
nic said he will post/mail it to me..
I prefer a piece of paper.. not email bro..
hehehehe!!
old school guy here..
;)
Post by: ahduck on March 08, 2017, 02:20
I am not sure if this is a translation issue or an unknown idiom but if any knows how to downgrade the firmware on the 203 I'd love the information.Have u tried email the person who sold you the jb encryption file. They might be able to assist u.?
Remember if you JB, never install newer official release version.
U can only (at your own risk) install one version newer public beta. So that you can still revert back to one lower version.
If no one can assist, then just have to be patient and wait for a newer version JB firmware. If it even happens..
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Post by: Doggie Howser on March 08, 2017, 06:14
Post by: kelvinsin on March 08, 2017, 07:39
Post by: desray on March 08, 2017, 21:24
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Post by: boe on March 08, 2017, 22:40
Have u tried email the person who sold you the jb encryption file. They might be able to assist u.?
Remember if you JB, never install newer official release version.
U can only (at your own risk) install one version newer public beta. So that you can still revert back to one lower version.
If no one can assist, then just have to be patient and wait for a newer version JB firmware. If it even happens..
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Thanks - haven't heard back from them yet. I can wait - I'm new to JB for oppo so live and learn.
Post by: DJQ on March 09, 2017, 23:38
Just checked with SLT. As of today, they have issued out all the receipts to those on the MO list by snail mail. Check your letter box tmr or the next. Let's close this chapter and move on...
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yeah i just got my receipt/invoice by post.
Post by: dXter on March 10, 2017, 01:13
Post by: Pingu on March 10, 2017, 21:33
Post by: sigurros on March 16, 2017, 14:36
Thought of getting the oppo 203, just a few questions;
1) My 4k LG does not have HDR. Does this makes any difference?
2) What about files play back from NAS? Any issues with file type?
Thanks
Post by: ahduck on March 16, 2017, 15:37
Hi all,
Thought of getting the oppo 203, just a few questions;
1) My 4k LG does not have HDR. Does this makes any difference?
2) What about files play back from NAS? Any issues with file type?
Thanks
Most importantly is does your LG support hdcp 2.2? Some older TVs only has hdmi 1.4 ports thus limiting to only 4K/30fps.
Don't support rmvb files..
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Post by: sigurros on March 16, 2017, 15:40
Most importantly is does your LG support hdcp 2.2? Some older TVs only has hdmi 1.4 ports thus limiting to only 4K/30fps.
Don't support rmvb files..
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yes it does support HCDP 2.2.
Post by: ahduck on March 16, 2017, 15:50
yes it does support HCDP 2.2.U might wanna go over AVS to read up on your TV model to see if there are settings to optimise with oppo 203 on the back lighting/ brightness/ black levels.
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Post by: DJQ on March 16, 2017, 16:27
so far i have not updated any firmware. so shld be still good for those looking to JB.
Post by: DaMacFunkin on March 18, 2017, 14:25
yes it does support HCDP 2.2.The latest official update adds support for HEVC Level 6.1 so there is not much it won't play, although i have a problem with AAC 7.1 files that Oppo have said they are working on.
Post by: kelvinsin on March 19, 2017, 10:05
might be considering selling my under use 203. looking to get something else.FYI，all oppo jailbreak has been freeze, only china set able to jailbreak now, including version 1209.
so far i have not updated any firmware. so shld be still good for those looking to JB.
Post by: Mattbee on March 19, 2017, 23:24
FYI，all oppo jailbreak has been freeze, only china set able to jailbreak now, including version 1209.This isn't necessarily true i have EU player and have just had recent JB with latest firmware coming out very soon so if you have a EU player there is still option for JB now.
Post by: the_jaguar on March 19, 2017, 23:52
This isn't necessarily true i have EU player and have just had recent JB with latest firmware coming out very soon so if you have a EU player there is still option for JB now.
Where did you get the JB from?
Post by: Samkay on March 19, 2017, 23:57
Thanks
Post by: Mattbee on March 20, 2017, 00:43
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Post by: kelvinsin on March 20, 2017, 08:08
This isn't necessarily true i have EU player and have just had recent JB with latest firmware coming out very soon so if you have a EU player there is still option for JB now.May i know when u received the jailbreak file?
Post by: the_jaguar on March 20, 2017, 08:57
May i know when u received the jailbreak file?
They say on the website that the JB works on 1229 and they are testing it on the latest firmware too. They do say that this is for EU model only. Also, the JB is $50 more expensive than bd-mod.
Post by: Samkay on March 20, 2017, 09:06
Post by: the_jaguar on March 20, 2017, 09:31
What good is BD MOD if they stopped supporting the 203 completely and you are stuck on buggy first 1209?
right, given that bd-mod now works only on the china model, it's useless for the rest of the world unless we can import the China model easily. So far, I haven't found a way to buy the China model in USA.
Post by: kelvinsin on March 20, 2017, 09:45
They say on the website that the JB works on 1229 and they are testing it on the latest firmware too. They do say that this is for EU model only. Also, the JB is $50 more expensive than bd-mod.I need to understand when bro mattbee got his jailbreak. As the website just might not update the latest info on time. Now most of the taobao resources are update their sale webpage to show only china set able to jailbreak, they ald taken down EU and US set, but still 1-2 small distributor havnt update their sale info. So wait for bro mattbee to give clarification on this.
Post by: luqman123 on March 20, 2017, 10:35
to cut story short. i bought oppo 203 yest. i using marantz 7011 n 1080p projector. but when i tried to use uhd dics it says yr tv is not hdcp 2.2..
Question: do we need 4 k projector to play 4 k dics?
do i need to update fw?
do i need to change hdmi cable?
thx.
Post by: the_jaguar on March 20, 2017, 10:46
I need to understand when bro mattbee got his jailbreak. As the website just might not update the latest info on time. Now most of the taobao resources are update their sale webpage to show only china set able to jailbreak, they ald taken down EU and US set, but still 1-2 small distributor havnt update their sale info. So wait for bro mattbee to give clarification on this.
Here is the quote straight from their site. They are specifically referring to the latest version that released after the change in Oppo's policy. If this really is legit, I will have to figure out a way to buy an EU model and have it shipped to the US
Quote
We will send you a link to download the current jailbreak firmware along with your jailbreak file. When new firmware is released we will also list it here.
As some plagiarist doing the fake scam for the customers and they making rumours about the 38 version can't be jailbreak anymore. We are declare: We only do service for our customers. We don't have any responsibility to the people who was cheated by other website. We can do the update for our customers:-)
The new version 38-0222 is under testing, a few bugs will be fixed shortly. We will release it as soon as we can.
33-1229 (Current version)
Right click and save the firmware file to the USB stick with your jailbreak file.
Post by: dXter on March 20, 2017, 11:15
Post by: ahduck on March 20, 2017, 11:41
sorry for newbie question
to cut story short. i bought oppo 203 yest. i using marantz 7011 n 1080p projector. but when i tried to use uhd dics it says yr tv is not hdcp 2.2..
Question: do we need 4 k projector to play 4 k dics?
do i need to update fw?
do i need to change hdmi cable?
thx.
If I understand correctly, when you play a UHD, on 1080 non HDCP2.2 display, it will prompt ' This content can not be displayed because your TV deos not support HDCP2.2.'
Don't think it will be corrected on newer FW. No use on changing the HDMI cable.
Post by: Mattbee on March 20, 2017, 17:17
I need to understand when bro mattbee got his jailbreak. As the website just might not update the latest info on time. Now most of the taobao resources are update their sale webpage to show only china set able to jailbreak, they ald taken down EU and US set, but still 1-2 small distributor havnt update their sale info. So wait for bro mattbee to give clarification on this.I got the JB a week ago.
Post by: kelvinsin on March 20, 2017, 17:45
I got the JB a week ago.
Taobao sellers just taken down the jailbreak for non-china set two days ago. Anyway, as i knew this website should be running by an engineer from xxxx, i wont unveiled who is him but if he said can do it, means he still can make it. Anyone who keen to give a try can contact and update bros here. Gd luck!
Post by: ahduck on March 20, 2017, 17:56
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Post by: kelvinsin on March 20, 2017, 18:39
Weird. Don't understand why is China set immune to the jailbreak restrictions?
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Most simple explanation is oppo is china company.lol
Post by: DJQ on March 20, 2017, 22:15
Post by: kelvinsin on March 20, 2017, 22:50
tought Oppo is American company with factory in China like Emotiva.?
BBK Electronics Corporation (Chinese: 广东步步高电子工业有限公司, also known as BBK Electronics, Chinese: 步步高电器) is a Chinese company specialised on electronics such as television sets, MP3 players, digital cameras and cell phones. It markets smartphones under the Oppo,[4] OnePlus[5] and Vivo[6] brands, and Blu-ray players, headphones and headphone amplifiers under the OPPO Digital division.[7][8] BBK Electronics' headquarters and production base are in Chang'an, Dongguan.[9] The latest member of the BBK Electronics group is "imoo".[10][11]
According to Bloomberg, the corporate address is 23 Bubugao Avenue, Wusha Village, Chang'an Dist, Dongguan, 523860 China.[12] It is the highest taxpayer in Chang'an.[13]
As of 2004, BBK also made devices sold in the United States under the Memorex and Philco brands.[14]
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Post by: CASH on March 21, 2017, 00:00
my thread comes out 1st!!!!
Worldwide bro!!!!
nobody dared... it was a singaporean who dared!
so anyone comes to xtremeplace from all over the world because i dared to do a crack on my personal set!
not the big ass stores sellers or distributers!!!
a loner in singapore did it.
;D
Post by: kelvinsin on March 21, 2017, 13:34
u know y? its because, when u google search, "Hardware Hack or Crack on Oppo 203"Do you means other singaporean has no gut except you?i just curious.
my thread comes out 1st!!!!
Worldwide bro!!!!
nobody dared... it was a singaporean who dared!
so anyone comes to xtremeplace from all over the world because i dared to do a crack on my personal set!
not the big ass stores sellers or distributers!!!
a loner in singapore did it.
;D
Post by: Hass on March 21, 2017, 14:25
Do you means other singaporean has no gut except you?i just curious.
not just other Singaporeans bro... no other known human had the guts to do it
Post by: sigurros on March 21, 2017, 14:52
u know y? its because, when u google search, "Hardware Hack or Crack on Oppo 203"
my thread comes out 1st!!!!
Worldwide bro!!!!
nobody dared... it was a singaporean who dared!
so anyone comes to xtremeplace from all over the world because i dared to do a crack on my personal set!
not the big ass stores sellers or distributers!!!
a loner in singapore did it.
;D
Haha.
Give da man a Tiger. ;D
Post by: boe on March 23, 2017, 06:00
Post by: ahduck on March 23, 2017, 12:52
If anyone gets a JB to work on the newer US firmware, feel free to PM me. I haven't heard back from any JB makers I could find on the web so it may not be possible but I'm still hopeful.Seems like currently US models are stuck with 1209 FW.
EU and CN models probably can get newer JB FW updates..
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Post by: ronildoq on March 23, 2017, 13:48
Seems like currently US models are stuck with 1209 FW.
EU and CN models probably can get newer JB FW updates..
Oh NNo :( :( :(
Was really looking forward with the JB for 0222 version. Anyway, 0222 version still have stuttering issues, especially when playing the test atmos scenes, helicopter etc....
Post by: boe on March 24, 2017, 08:43
Post by: trickle on March 24, 2017, 12:08
(https://preview.ibb.co/kQHoOv/IMG_9536.jpg)
Post by: crazysurfer on March 24, 2017, 13:21
Glad to add this to my setup. Gonna be a fun weekend. ;D
(https://preview.ibb.co/kQHoOv/IMG_9536.jpg)
Will be fun if the disk won't get stuck inside like some folks here experience.
Keep your fingers crossed.
Post by: shenzenus on March 24, 2017, 14:53
Post by: crazysurfer on March 24, 2017, 14:56
Disc tray stuck is an intermittent problem. Good luck...
Happy Oppo weekend. :-\
Post by: trickle on March 24, 2017, 15:15
Will be fun if the disk won't get stuck inside like some folks here experience.
Keep your fingers crossed.
There is local warranty so it's all good.
Post by: crazysurfer on March 24, 2017, 15:26
There is local warranty so it's all good.
Have fun with your warranty this weekend. Hope it's all good.
Post by: trickle on March 24, 2017, 15:42
Have fun with your warranty this weekend. Hope it's all good.
Well, i doubt there'll be a need for it. But thank you very much anyways.
You have a pleasant weekend too and may whatever warranties you may or may not have keep you happy.
Post by: crazysurfer on March 24, 2017, 16:38
Well, i doubt there'll be a need for it. But thank you very much anyways.
You have a pleasant weekend too and may whatever warranties you may or may not have keep you happy.
Good to my optimistic but better let the facts speak for itself. Glad to keep away from all these till the dust settles and enjoy a peaceful weekend.
Have a happy weekend to all.
Post by: petetherock on March 24, 2017, 19:22
Will be fun if the disk won't get stuck inside like some folks here experience.Considering the large number of unaffected world wide users versus stuck disc users, I think there's a bit of fear mongering by people who seem to dislike the Oppo.
Keep your fingers crossed.
I think our forum does not suppress anyone (well except anyone who likes our government..) so when it comes to hifi, take each post with objectivity, and decide for yourself.
IMO, 4k players are a new item, so there will be issues. Even with the Samsung and Panny there are also issues. Just that locally we do not have a large user base, and the Oppo probably has more users.
Ultimately if the 203 proves to be unreliable, you can bet that the fallout will be great, and Oppo is no fool. If they don't fix the issues, then they will be kaput.
So YMMV bro, cheers :)
Post by: crazysurfer on March 24, 2017, 19:47
Considering the large number of unaffected world wide users versus stuck disc users, I think there's a bit of fear mongering by people who seem to dislike the Oppo.
I think our forum does not suppress anyone (well except anyone who likes our government..) so when it comes to hifi, take each post with objectivity, and decide for yourself.
IMO, 4k players are a new item, so there will be issues. Even with the Samsung and Panny there are also issues. Just that locally we do not have a large user base, and the Oppo probably has more users.
Ultimately if the 203 proves to be unreliable, you can bet that the fallout will be great, and Oppo is no fool. If they don't fix the issues, then they will be kaput.
So YMMV bro, cheers :)
Agreed bro Pete, being still in its infancy, better to wait and see how it develops into. As it is, the Multi-Region Coding issue has still not be officially launch yet (or is there one?) and now the stuck disc surfaces and thats just the tip of the iceberg as more and more starts to surface later, not to mention the 205 is still a WIP (Work-In-Progress), without a confirmed launch date yet and wandering what's going to happen next.
So those who bought it now better be prepared and keep your fingers crossed and hope for the best whether with or without warranty. Just sharing my view, tat's all.
Post by: zaviv on March 25, 2017, 02:52
From where did you bought yor new oppo?
As far as I understand only the EU version can be unlocked at the moment
Can someone verify that the jailbreak
This is the last message from the web for the EU models:
We will send you a link to download the current jailbreak firmware along with your jailbreak file. When new firmware is released we will also list it here.
News Update 23/03/17 - We decide to delay to release the 38-0222 version jailbreak firmware as some website steal and plagiarize our solution without any permission. They cheat the customers and leave us a massively legal issue. We can promise we will be the first and the only website can release the new firmware, but we cannot release it until we sort these legal problems out. Sorry for the inconvenience they caused.
33-1229 (Current version) Please make sure your current firmware is 33-1229 version
Right click and save the firmware file to the USB stick with your jailbreak file.
Aviv
Post by: ronildoq on March 25, 2017, 14:52
Considering the large number of unaffected world wide users versus stuck disc users, I think there's a bit of fear mongering by people who seem to dislike the Oppo.
I think our forum does not suppress anyone (well except anyone who likes our government..) so when it comes to hifi, take each post with objectivity, and decide for yourself.
IMO, 4k players are a new item, so there will be issues. Even with the Samsung and Panny there are also issues. Just that locally we do not have a large user base, and the Oppo probably has more users.
Ultimately if the 203 proves to be unreliable, you can bet that the fallout will be great, and Oppo is no fool. If they don't fix the issues, then they will be kaput.
So YMMV bro, cheers :)
+1 agree with Pete. I don't have disc tray issues, but minor stuttering issues when playing normal bluray, only on some disc. I have all the confidence in this Oppo 203, it's there to stay as an integral part of my set up. Simple, it has all the high quality components, hdmi 2.0a, HDR, Atmos 4k separate analog outs, firmware issues can be sorted out, customer service and local support is excellent, I wouldn't trade my oppo 203 for any other 4k players in the market now....ill patiently wait for fixes in subsequent upgrades...
Post by: trickle on March 25, 2017, 17:07
OMG, what have I been missing! HDR on tv looks infinitely better. Everything just pops and I never thought it would look better than on the big screen. :o
Only problem now. Im feeling an immediate itch to buy more UHD discs.
Post by: trickle on March 25, 2017, 19:31
Thanks
Post by: petetherock on March 25, 2017, 20:53
Release date: March 24, 2017
Category: Latest Public Beta Test Release
Main Version: UDP20X-41-0317B
Loader Version: TF0030
MCU Version: MCU203-01-1118
Release Notes:
Added the Dolby Digital and DTS options under the S/PDIF Output setting in Audio Output Setup, which allows the player to re-encode different audio formats into the Dolby Digital or DTS audio format for the S/PDIF output.
Improved the output accuracy when using the RGB PC Level color space.
Resolved a frame dropping issue when using cable or satellite boxes through the HDMI In.
Improved A/V sync when using the HDMI In.
Resolved an issue where the Full zoom mode would not fill the screen when playing 4:3 content.
Improved stability when accessing SMB servers.
Resolved an issue where ejecting the disc tray could lock up the player.
Improved compatibility with Optoma 4K projectors.
Post by: ahduck on March 26, 2017, 21:24
Post by: boysact on March 26, 2017, 21:37
Post by: CASH on March 26, 2017, 23:13
Not sure am I the 1st here, but I guess I officially bricked my 203 after trying to update to UDP20X-41-0317B. Now totally no display. No 'Hello'. :(
oh no!!!
I haven't download this beta yet...
dun worry, I will download n see if it kills the 203..
if it does, hmmmmm...
lets see how SLT will call Oppo headquarters to see how to resolve this issue of bricked sets, due to beta firmware!!!
hehehehehe!!
I love new beta firmware..
its jus gr888!!!!
;D
Post by: ahduck on March 26, 2017, 23:18
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Post by: CASH on March 26, 2017, 23:37
DAMN!!!!
it didn't brick my set..
update was super quick. done it 40 seconds..
jus to test if any bricking will happen, I purposely did the upgrade twice..
and restarted the 203 with no problems..
oh damn...wasted....
Post by: boe on March 27, 2017, 01:51
My 203 is still on the 1209 firmware. Does this mean that I can update to the jailbreak firmware if I get my hands on it?
Thanks
Yes but if you EVER do a real update you can NEVER go back to the JB version unfortunately.
Post by: DaMacFunkin on March 29, 2017, 01:51
Yes but if you EVER do a real update you can NEVER go back to the JB version unfortunately.BUT you can go up to the next version beta and flash back...
Post by: boe on March 29, 2017, 12:09
Post by: DaMacFunkin on April 01, 2017, 18:43
Right you can flash back to the last official release but you can't flash back to the jailbreak. I put the latest beta on mine and it will not go back to the jailbreak.Because the latest beta is 2 versions above the last Jailbreak...
You can go from beta to the previous release version only.
Post by: ronildoq on April 02, 2017, 09:00
(http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag329/ronildoq/USB%20Type%20B_zps02mbuv2x.jpg)
Doesnt work when using the Hard disc connected to the docking station and USB 3.0 to Oppo 203
(http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag329/ronildoq/USB%203.0%20ok_zpsachgpqkx.jpg)
Works perfectly, no issues when connecting using this type of USB3.0 connection
Both disc in NTFS format
Post by: desray on April 02, 2017, 09:28
Tried playing files from my ESATA/USB 3.0B version Docking station, Oppo is not able to detect the files, takes forever to load. Anyone having this issue?
(http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag329/ronildoq/USB%20Type%20B_zps02mbuv2x.jpg)
Doesnt work when using the Hard disc connected to the docking station and USB 3.0 to Oppo 203
(http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag329/ronildoq/USB%203.0%20ok_zpsachgpqkx.jpg)
Works perfectly, no issues when connecting using this type of USB3.0 connection
Both disc in NTFS format
Not true. I am able to use the ext HDD dock with the same type of connection (USB 3.0 Type B connection at one end) feeding to my Oppo UDP-203 and have no issue reading and playback media content. In fact, Oppo does it so well this time that it loads almost instantly compared to its predecessor, the Oppo BDP-103D. I guess the higher processing chip used for this new 4K model really helps.
Workaround - Do a chkdsk or scandsk on your external HDD using your Windows desktop PC. This usually works. If there is any bad or corrupted sectors, it will also tell you. Sometimes the MBR is corrupted which resulted in Oppo having problem trying to read the files in the HDD. To ensure that it is not the USB HDD dock issue or the cable issue, try another external HDD to confirm. Always make sure that you do the proper "ejecting of the HDD" after you complete transferring your media files from the desktop PC to the external HDD. Simply turn off the dock and remove the HDD will result on bad sector over time which can be a contributing factor to what you experience.
The least likely, but still "possible" is the USB cable itself. Swap to a different/new cable.
Good luck!
Post by: ronildoq on April 02, 2017, 10:38
I will check the MBR architecture and partition with testdisk and see if it needs to be fixed. Glad to know it is not an issue.
Post by: ronildoq on April 02, 2017, 12:34
Post by: desray on April 02, 2017, 16:45
Chkdsk no errors on hard drive. The only difference is one formatted with a GPT structure and the normal hard disk is MBR structure. What is the size of the hard drive when using the docking station? Both hard drive with GPT structure not able to play on the Oppo , gotta find a way to convert it to MBR without losing the data
That's also the next question I am about to ask you :P
Most of my external HDD is formatted in MBR for backward compatibility with some media players that only reads MBR. GPT is slowly replacing MBR as it does not need to create an extended partition for capacity > than 3TB iirc.
I doubt there is a way to convert a GPT formatted drive to the older MBR format. This is what I did for any new HDD I purchased. Take note I am using Windows 10 64 bit OS.
For every new HDD, you need to manage the disk first. Initialize the HDD and perform a "simple" formatting. Make sure you DO NOT change the default settings. Simply accept it and allow the quick formatting to be performed. That's it.
Transfer some media files over to the HDD. That's it. It will work. I did a check in the past regarding the type of external HDD format accepted by their media players and GPT formatted drive should not have a problem but MBR is definitely the preferred choice since it is recognizable by many AV equipment like bluray players and even Chromebooks etc.
Post by: ronildoq on April 02, 2017, 21:38
No choice as i love the oppo 203!
Post by: shlomi33 on April 03, 2017, 23:00
i was reading all the post of the oppo 203
anyone was buying from bd-mod.com ?
i will heapy for any replay
tnks
Post by: petetherock on April 04, 2017, 20:13
http://www.multi-region.net/oppo_bdp-83 (http://www.multi-region.net/oppo_bdp-83)
I have burnt it onto a disk, if you wish to save, you can come and get it from me, cheers.
Post by: ronildoq on April 04, 2017, 21:36
DL the AOMEI Asst Partition tool, and install it normally. Its FREE. NO adware etc.
When the programme started, i noticed that the 2 particular disk on docking station had a separate unallocated partition with a * marking, with a FLAG GPT,MSR - 128MB. I highlighted that and deleted that partition, then merged it with the existing and suddenly all works! Oppo now able to read the disk. No more spinning. So nothing to do with MBR or GPT structure. Both works for the Oppo 203. Data intact :)
(http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag329/ronildoq/Flag%20GPT%20MSR%20under%20Other_zpsi8djrbex.jpg)
Cheers!
Post by: ahduck on April 07, 2017, 10:16
https://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-udp-203/UDP203-firmware-42-0329.aspx (https://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-udp-203/UDP203-firmware-42-0329.aspx)
Release date: April 6, 2017.
Category: Latest Official Release
Main Version: UDP20X-42-0329
Loader Version: TF0032
MCU Version: MCU203-01-1118
Release Notes:
This release is for the OPPO UDP-203 4K UHD Blu-ray Disc Player.
Special Notice:
Once this firmware version is installed on the player, you will not be able to revert back to any previous official or public beta firmware. There will be no problem upgrading to any future official or beta firmware release.
Comparing to the previous Official release version UDP20X-38-0222, the major changes included in this version are:
Added support for the OPPO UDP-20X MediaControl app, which turns your mobile device into a remote that provides complete control over your OPPO 4K UHD Blu-ray player. Please select from the following device types to download the application: iPhone / iPad / iPod Touch, Android, Android (APK), Amazon App Store.
Added the Dolby Digital and DTS options under the S/PDIF Output setting in Audio Output Setup, which allows the player to re-encode different audio formats into the Dolby Digital or DTS audio format for the S/PDIF output.
Improved the output accuracy when using the RGB PC Level color space.
Resolved a frame dropping issue when using cable or satellite boxes through the HDMI In.
Improved A/V sync when using the HDMI In.
Resolved an issue where the Full zoom mode would not fill the screen when playing 4:3 content.
Improved stability when accessing SMB servers.
Resolved an issue where ejecting the disc tray could lock up the player.
General disc compatibility improvements based on recent and upcoming UHD Blu-ray releases as well as user-submitted disc samples.
All features of the previous firmware are also included in this version.
Post by: ronildoq on April 07, 2017, 13:29
New Firmware Update
https://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-udp-203/UDP203-firmware-42-0329.aspx (https://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-udp-203/UDP203-firmware-42-0329.aspx)
Release date: April 6, 2017.
Category: Latest Official Release
Main Version: UDP20X-42-0329
Loader Version: TF0032
MCU Version: MCU203-01-1118
Release Notes:
This release is for the OPPO UDP-203 4K UHD Blu-ray Disc Player.
Special Notice:
Once this firmware version is installed on the player, you will not be able to revert back to any previous official or public beta firmware. There will be no problem upgrading to any future official or beta firmware release.
Comparing to the previous Official release version UDP20X-38-0222, the major changes included in this version are:
Added support for the OPPO UDP-20X MediaControl app, which turns your mobile device into a remote that provides complete control over your OPPO 4K UHD Blu-ray player. Please select from the following device types to download the application: iPhone / iPad / iPod Touch, Android, Android (APK), Amazon App Store.
Added the Dolby Digital and DTS options under the S/PDIF Output setting in Audio Output Setup, which allows the player to re-encode different audio formats into the Dolby Digital or DTS audio format for the S/PDIF output.
Improved the output accuracy when using the RGB PC Level color space.
Resolved a frame dropping issue when using cable or satellite boxes through the HDMI In.
Improved A/V sync when using the HDMI In.
Resolved an issue where the Full zoom mode would not fill the screen when playing 4:3 content.
Improved stability when accessing SMB servers.
Resolved an issue where ejecting the disc tray could lock up the player.
General disc compatibility improvements based on recent and upcoming UHD Blu-ray releases as well as user-submitted disc samples.
All features of the previous firmware are also included in this version.
Thanks Ahduck for the updates. Seems like good to go as i have experienced these three issues as described. Will give this a try today
General disc compatibility improvements based on recent and upcoming UHD Blu-ray releases as well as user-submitted disc samples.<--However, there is no mentioned of it being resolved, just improvement, how much improvement remains to be seen
Resolved a frame dropping issue when using cable or satellite boxes through the HDMI In.<-- Resolved!! good!
Improved A/V sync when using the HDMI In. <-- No mentioned of resolved, just improvement
Post by: ahduck on April 07, 2017, 13:57
But my 203 is still in Hospital.
Post by: desray on April 07, 2017, 17:17
Post by: desray on April 07, 2017, 17:18
Found the problem causing Oppo 203 not to be able to read the Hard drive. Here is a solution in case you come across a similar situation like me.
DL the AOMEI Asst Partition tool, and install it normally. Its FREE. NO adware etc.
When the programme started, i noticed that the 2 particular disk on docking station had a separate unallocated partition with a * marking, with a FLAG GPT,MSR - 128MB. I highlighted that and deleted that partition, then merged it with the existing and suddenly all works! Oppo now able to read the disk. No more spinning. So nothing to do with MBR or GPT structure. Both works for the Oppo 203. Data intact :)
(http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag329/ronildoq/Flag%20GPT%20MSR%20under%20Other_zpsi8djrbex.jpg)
Cheers!
Glad to know its been resolved...
Post by: ronildoq on April 07, 2017, 18:35
Looking forward to try the Media Control App.
But my 203 is still in Hospital.
Post by: petetherock on April 08, 2017, 19:34
This is one of the main selling point of Oppo, they listen and take care of their customers, even though they are not as big as the Denon/Onkyo/Yamaha companies out there.
Post by: bluepill193 on April 08, 2017, 20:13
Post by: petetherock on April 08, 2017, 20:20
The operating system will be similar, just better parts, so getting this one right is vital. Then the 205 flagship can be released and get lauded by critics.
Right now it's a new world, so anything that is released will get snafus and a lot of flak. It's important to get the operation smooth first.
Post by: bluepill193 on April 09, 2017, 04:11
Post by: boe on April 09, 2017, 06:49
Yah, just grumbling about the long wait
Post by: petetherock on April 09, 2017, 07:47
The 205 should be quite good.
Post by: ahduck on April 10, 2017, 10:21
Hospital? Still not resolved? Thats why i prefer to install the official version and not the Beta version. And also when updating the firmware, wiser to use the thumbdrive to update. U never know what might go wrong during update vide network.
Anyway, Oppo is still superb, and good to know engineers are working to resolve issues vide firmware upgrades, this is what i like about oppo.
Guess mine is heng/ suay.
All along I was using an old flashdrive. But the last round, I did use a new 128gb to flash the beta.
I do believe there will be risk be it official or beta or via flashdrive or network when it comes to firmware flashing.
So long SLT can solve it I'm fine with it. Now waiting for it to be discharge.
Post by: Doggie Howser on April 10, 2017, 10:27
The Oppo has been faultless with UHD movies for me and SACDs with the Marantz 8802 and the JVC X9500 but I had no end of problems with an 8801 or JVC RS60 combo.
Post by: petetherock on April 10, 2017, 11:14
I did my fw update via internet, not via USB. Ymmv
Post by: kenshin07 on April 10, 2017, 12:20
Post by: luqman123 on April 10, 2017, 13:25
Post by: CASH on April 10, 2017, 13:38
will still be on the lookout for
"disc stuck in machine problems"
Post by: petetherock on April 13, 2017, 10:09
These seem to be the remaining issues on the 203 after the last FW - in USA.
I guess we have a smaller user group here, so the number of faults detected may seem less.
Post by: petetherock on April 15, 2017, 14:05
http://www.soundandvision.com/content/oppo-udp-203-ultra-hd-blu-ray-player-review#iAEjIkeAqfoZ3aZb.97
Post by: vp4lifehva on April 16, 2017, 19:37
I am currently on JB version 33-1229 and am thinking about getting another 203 player because I don't want to lose the ISO and BDMV playback.
Post by: kenshin07 on April 16, 2017, 19:42
Post by: vp4lifehva on April 16, 2017, 19:55
If you just want to play back iso and BDVM why not go for a good quality media player?
I personally like the ease of use with the Oppo. I have the 93 and will be selling it soon.
I also have the Nvidia Shield for a few months now. I haven't really played with it too much. Does it support ISO and BDMV (without Cinavia) via HDD?
Post by: DaMacFunkin on April 18, 2017, 01:03
A waste of time and money really.
Post by: vp4lifehva on April 18, 2017, 06:43
I am sure that someone will release an updated jailbreak in the future. I can't have guests over watching UHD movies with random audio drops.
Post by: petetherock on April 19, 2017, 09:20
Post by: petetherock on April 19, 2017, 09:45
http://oppodigital.com/blu-ray-udp-205/blu-ray-udp-205-Overview.aspx
Looks interesting..
Post by: debadgedA6 on April 19, 2017, 09:54
Post by: htng on April 19, 2017, 17:24
Post by: P.J. on April 19, 2017, 21:05
If not, hopefully the 205 priced at around 19xx range...looking to replace my 105d with 205..
Post by: DaMacFunkin on April 20, 2017, 01:07
I bit the bullet and update the official firmware last night. I can always go back to my Oppo BDP-93 or use BD-RE discs.The main problem with official firmware is Cinavia, it is painful.
I am sure that someone will release an updated jailbreak in the future. I can't have guests over watching UHD movies with random audio drops.
Post by: bluepill193 on April 20, 2017, 08:18
Post by: kelvinsin on April 20, 2017, 09:13
4K Ultra HD Audiophile Blu-ray Disc Player
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Price:$1,299
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Post by: petetherock on April 20, 2017, 09:58
I had the 101ci, I would say, that's one of the most trouble free units I have ever used.
Made me feel rather regretful when I think of the day I sold it.
Post by: CASH on April 20, 2017, 10:18
short n sharp for all to comprehend.
painful lesson learnt from the 203 saga...
( Unless of course u have money to burn, or bottomless pockets filled with wad's of cash! )
Post by: dsj88 on April 20, 2017, 11:05
Post by: allfor4k on April 20, 2017, 14:16
Still using the Samsung K8500 for the past 6mths. So far so good.
Post by: petetherock on April 20, 2017, 14:21
If you are the typical Singaporean, who prefers to sit back, and do the practical thing, yes, it is wise to avoid being in the first wave and be on the cutting edge.
Eg, some folks have only just joined the Blu Ray revolution, and they have no intention of going 4k.
There are still folks stuck on VCDs and tapes for example.
Or be in the first wave, enjoy the products, BUT understand the risks. Just like the first few BR players, they were clunky and I recall the Samsung BD 1000, which was slow and quickly obsolete. So people will point to that and say it's a bad idea to be on the edge. True, and yet, some of us enjoy being the first, yes you know who you are ;)
So YMMV, and what you do, depends a lot on your risk appetite.
I sound the horn of caution for the 205, but I may jump in if I swop out the 203, but since I have no 4k TV, I have no real incentive right now, and the 203 was a fun machine which allowed me to enjoy some discs and the Atmos soundtracks for not too much outlay. (on certain movies, only the 4k disc has the Atmos soundtrack).
Post by: petetherock on April 20, 2017, 14:24
Oppo has a habit of releasing models with many bugs and then firmware updates to fix them. I have 2 oppos but don't think will buy again. Oppo users are very tolerant of this for some reason saying they are good with firmware updates. If they were released with not many bugs in the first place they wouldn't need so many updates. I'll be getting the Panasonic 4k player this time. Test shows they are better than the Oppo and less issues.Actually bro, not all their players are buggy. The 80 was good and so was the 101. In fact the 105/103 was quite stable. This is more to do with the stability of the format, than anything to do with Oppo. But at least they are responsive.
Think of some of the other brands of BR players. Apart from Sony, Panny, Sammy and Oppo, I don't think that the smaller companies release their FW updates so promptly.
But as I just posted, YMMV, and I won't rush into the 205 until the general issues are fixed with the 203 first.
Post by: petetherock on April 20, 2017, 16:03
http://hometheaterhifi.com/reviews/video-player/blu-ray/oppo-udp-203-4k-ultra-hd-blu-ray-disc-player-review/
Post by: DaMacFunkin on April 22, 2017, 13:21
Oppo has a habit of releasing models with many bugs and then firmware updates to fix them. I have 2 oppos but don't think will buy again. Oppo users are very tolerant of this for some reason saying they are good with firmware updates. If they were released with not many bugs in the first place they wouldn't need so many updates. I'll be getting the Panasonic 4k player this time. Test shows they are better than the Oppo and less issues.That isn't actually a fair representation of the facts, The Panasonic UB900 has been available since March 2016 in the UK, it launched with many bugs including a Dolby Atmos bug from day one, these where fixed with firmware updates so that by the time it launched in the USA and other parts of the world a few months later these bugs had been largely fixed.
That is no different to the Oppo, by the time the Oppo has been on the Market 13 months it too will have had all it's bugs erased and many enhancements added.
Post by: bluepill193 on April 22, 2017, 18:13
Post by: petetherock on April 22, 2017, 20:36
Some guys in US had their 205 shipped oredi. Hope there will be MO like for the 203I am sure there will be. It's just a matter of when you want to join the queue.
Are you the cutting edge sort of person I described ?
:)
Post by: bluepill193 on April 22, 2017, 20:55
Post by: wizardofoz on April 23, 2017, 00:26
Some guys in US had their 205 shipped oredi. Hope there will be MO like for the 203
Working on it, keep an eye out here on the MO threads, but maybe not till June time frame...Usa always get the bulk of production then the rest trickles out to the real world
Post by: boe on April 23, 2017, 05:36
That isn't actually a fair representation of the facts, The Panasonic UB900 has been available since March 2016 in the UK, it launched with many bugs including a Dolby Atmos bug from day one, these where fixed with firmware updates so that by the time it launched in the USA and other parts of the world a few months later these bugs had been largely fixed.
That is no different to the Oppo, by the time the Oppo has been on the Market 13 months it too will have had all it's bugs erased and many enhancements added.
Actually it is kind of fair. Oppo probably had theirs in development for a longer period - could have done more bug shakedowns. If Oppo had released their in March of 2016 and had the bugs they do now - people would probably be more understanding. If someone just released a new DVD player - would you expect many issues? I'm not saying Oppo won't ever get around to fixing their bugs - just that they probably either should have fixed many of the bugs before selling it or released it after they fixed so many of the bugs.
Post by: Jag on April 23, 2017, 06:51
https://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-udp-205/
anyone getting this? Perhaps the bugs are addressed better in this product.
Post by: semajm85 on April 23, 2017, 09:46
great! Let them test the product
Working on it, keep an eye out here on the MO threads, but maybe not till June time frame...Usa always get the bulk of production then the rest trickles out to the real world
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Post by: DaMacFunkin on April 25, 2017, 01:34
Actually it is kind of fair. Oppo probably had theirs in development for a longer period - could have done more bug shakedowns. If Oppo had released their in March of 2016 and had the bugs they do now - people would probably be more understanding. If someone just released a new DVD player - would you expect many issues? I'm not saying Oppo won't ever get around to fixing their bugs - just that they probably either should have fixed many of the bugs before selling it or released it after they fixed so many of the bugs.You seem to be saying that the Panasonic wasn't in development for an age also, they was the first company to announce a player, and it then took 12 months too emerge, the release date was pushed back twice.
Post by: petetherock on April 25, 2017, 06:03
Actually it is kind of fair. Oppo probably had theirs in development for a longer period - could have done more bug shakedowns. If Oppo had released their in March of 2016 and had the bugs they do now - people would probably be more understanding. If someone just released a new DVD player - would you expect many issues? I'm not saying Oppo won't ever get around to fixing their bugs - just that they probably either should have fixed many of the bugs before selling it or released it after they fixed so many of the bugs.The DVD platform is very stable. Likewise the Blu Ray system is also fairly so. But UHD is a work in progress and Oppo not only has to build a new player, it has to deal with new standards like Hdmi 2, HDCP 2.2 and interface with other devices that may never have talked to it before... So I would give it some slack.
You could sit back and wait for the dust to settle or take the risks of being on the cutting edge of something new. Ymmv.
Post by: boe on April 25, 2017, 09:37
You seem to be saying that the Panasonic wasn't in development for an age also, they was the first company to announce a player, and it then took 12 months too emerge, the release date was pushed back twice.
Let me be clear - I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying the Panasonic came out LONG before the Oppo - they had a good reason for having many glitches on initial release. What I'm saying is if I gave someone one week to prep a research paper on the fall of the Roman Empire and gave you 9 more months to do the same and I also let you look at their research paper, I would find it to be a lack of effort on your part if you didn't have far fewer typos, and far less errors in your paper. Does that example make it any clearer for you?
Post by: petetherock on April 25, 2017, 20:18
Oppo Digital today announced an audiophile version of the S&V Top Pick-designated UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray player introduced last December.
Priced at $1,299, the UDP-205 4K Ultra HD Audiophile Blu-ray adds “top-of-the-line audio performance” to a universal player that delivers reference quality video performance and is compatible with a number of digital audio and video formats, including all forms of Blu-ray, DVD-Video, DVD-Audio, SACD, CD, and others.
Featuring a brushed aluminum front panel and metal chassis with heavy-gauge machined feet, the player supports the HDR10 high dynamic range format, is upgradable to Dolby Vision via firmware, and has dual HDMI outputs—2.0 for UHD and HDMI 1.4 for audio—and an HDMI 2.0 input for external streaming devices and set-top boxes.
In today’s press release, Oppo described the UDP-205’s audio performance as a significant upgrade over the UDP-203 and previous generation players. Specific enhancements include “reference level sound quality” through the analog outputs, improved clock precision of the HDMI audio output, and increased power for the player’s built-in headphone amplifier.
The UDP-205’s upgraded HDMI clock includes circuitry said to significantly reduce jitter and eliminate timing errors at the audio-only HDMI output, improving the sound of PCM and DSD signals, according to Oppo. Compressed bitstream audio may also see improved audio performance depending on whether the audio decoder in the AV processor or receiver uses a synchronous or asynchronous clock scheme.
In addition to its 7.1-channel analog audio output, the UDP-205 has a dedicated stereo output processed by a ES9038PRO digital-to-analog converter (DAC)—flagship of the ESS Sabre Pro series—featuring specially designed buffer and driver stages. The headphone amplifier is also connected directly to the ESS DAC.
The player has both RCA and XLR balanced outputs—the latter featuring a differential signal path from DAC to XLR connector for improved common-mode noise rejection and signal quality—as well as a USB DAC with an asynchronous input that supports sample rates up to 768 kHz PCM and DSD 512, and coaxial and optical digital audio inputs.
By bypassing the typically poor quality DAC used in computer soundcards, Oppo says the UDP-205 can turn any PC into a high performing multi-media source in addition using its high-performance DAC to convert digital signals from cable and satellite boxes, TVs, game consoles, and other digital transports to analog.
The UDP-205’s audio circuitry is powered by a “massive” toroidal power supply, which is said to provide a clean and robust power source to the audio components, and a new double-layered chassis is designed to help cancel vibration. Oppo says the player’s internal layout and chassis promote healthy air flow so critical components can be naturally cooled with strategically placed heatsinks and ventilation grilles.
Read more at http://www.soundandvision.com/content/oppo-introduces-audiophile-infused-udp-203-uhd-player#WQSo0TItVmFSOayi.99
Post by: InnocentBlood on April 29, 2017, 19:23
Post by: boe on May 01, 2017, 04:25
Post by: CASH on May 01, 2017, 04:48
I nearly updated my comp to this new creator edition for windows!!
lucky for me I didn't update my windows..
thks for the heads up.
Post by: DaMacFunkin on May 01, 2017, 16:24
Let me be clear - I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying the Panasonic came out LONG before the Oppo - they had a good reason for having many glitches on initial release. What I'm saying is if I gave someone one week to prep a research paper on the fall of the Roman Empire and gave you 9 more months to do the same and I also let you look at their research paper, I would find it to be a lack of effort on your part if you didn't have far fewer typos, and far less errors in your paper. Does that example make it any clearer for you?No, they use 2 completely different chips, Oppo sourced a chip that could be updated to Hardware DV, it was fresh of the racks, it has more capabilities than the Panasonic one, it is like saying we have had jet engines for 60 years, we should build new jet engines that don't have any problems, doesn't happen.
Post by: Real007 on May 02, 2017, 10:53
Post by: petetherock on May 02, 2017, 11:43
May I asked where can I get a good buy for 205?You can ask SLT when it actually arrives - I am sure they will share info on the launch.
Post by: wizardofoz on May 02, 2017, 14:21
Post by: Real007 on May 03, 2017, 00:24
You can ask SLT when it actually arrives - I am sure they will share info on the launch.P.s. Who is SLT?
Post by: kelvinsin on May 03, 2017, 19:37
"A few hours ago a pirated copy of the "Smurfs 2" UHD Blu-Ray Disc appeared on the well known private torrent tracker UltraHDclub. The release suggests that the AACS 2.0 encryption technology used to protect these discs may have been circumvented for the first time. However, without further details, it's probably wise not to jump to conclusions too quickly."
https://torrentfreak.com/first-pirated-ultra-hd-blu-ray-disk-appears-online-aacs-2-0-cracked-170503/
Post by: kelvinsin on May 04, 2017, 08:18
(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i41/kelvinsin/image_zpsilsubrzd.jpeg)
Post by: ronildoq on May 05, 2017, 22:42
HDR image, Atmos detected. This Throne guy is awesome!
(http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag329/ronildoq/Photo%206-5-17%206%2034%2057%20PM_zpsrysccd7z.jpg)
Post by: DaMacFunkin on May 09, 2017, 01:29
Enjoy this, for this is probably it.
Post by: ahduck on May 09, 2017, 12:59
Post by: ronildoq on May 09, 2017, 18:05
So does that mean The smurfs 2 can play BDMV folders without JB the 203?
Yes it does, as seen on screen! No JB required, no cineavia pop up. Throne is the man !!
Post by: in1voice on May 10, 2017, 22:28
Post by: desray on May 11, 2017, 07:33
Silly question - who is Throne?I believed he is the chap who cracked and uploaded the 4k UHD smurfs disc image.
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Post by: Evoke on May 11, 2017, 22:11
Post by: DizzyD on May 11, 2017, 22:42
Lots of information here and I read the last 10 pages.
Am I right there isn't any JB for ISO / BDMV playback for current stocks of 203 now?
Thx
Post by: petetherock on May 11, 2017, 23:20
Saw that the Oppo 205 is now available on amazon. Since it is voltage switchable, what would be the difference between this US set and our local distro set? Warranty is also same 2 yrs international right?Bro
So let me understand this correctly: you are buying from Amazon, and you want SLT to honor the Amazon warranty?
Isn't that like buying a PI car and asking Borneo Motors to fix your Corolla when it goes bust?
I don't know if that will happen.. you may want to check on how the warranty works, cheers
Post by: jdc115 on May 12, 2017, 00:57
Saw that the Oppo 205 is now available on amazon. Since it is voltage switchable, what would be the difference between this US set and our local distro set? Warranty is also same 2 yrs international right?
You would have to send it back to the US in that case. But most likely warranty will be void as soon as you have it shipped internationally. if you check Oppo site, this is what they honor:
"This warranty applies only to OPPO brand products imported or manufactured by OPPO Digital, Inc. and sold to the original consumer purchaser in the U.S.A. or Canada"
If you buy locally, the warranty is most likely being supported by the local company and unlikely they can honor any warranty for a product not bought from them.
Post by: Evoke on May 12, 2017, 01:02
BroSaw the warranty is 2 yrs international for 203 offered by SLT. Might not the same for amazon set. Was thinking of the pros & cons, like using the US set for Uhd discs purchased from amazon but shipping over will incur 7% gst & etc. Would appreciate if Bros can share their thoughts other than the warranty. Tks
So let me understand this correctly: you are buying from Amazon, and you want SLT to honor the Amazon warranty?
Isn't that like buying a PI car and asking Borneo Motors to fix your Corolla when it goes bust?
I don't know if that will happen.. you may want to check on how the warranty works, cheers
Post by: Evoke on May 12, 2017, 01:10
You would have to send it back to the US in that case. But most likely warranty will be void as soon as you have it shipped internationally. if you check Oppo site, this is what they honor:Thanks bro for clarification on the warranty part. The 205 looks damn solid. Would love to own one if circumstances permit. Checked with SLT about a week back and was told pre order will be announced on their Facebook, either by mid may or end may.
"This warranty applies only to OPPO brand products imported or manufactured by OPPO Digital, Inc. and sold to the original consumer purchaser in the U.S.A. or Canada"
If you buy locally, the warranty is most likely being supported by the local company and unlikely they can honor any warranty for a product not bought from them.
Post by: bluepill193 on May 12, 2017, 08:11
And if use hdmi to avr for sound, still can use the analogue outs? Eg for multichannel sacd, concert dvd/blurays
Post by: dXter on May 12, 2017, 12:17
Post by: trickle on May 13, 2017, 10:16
Only issue is that my sound bar does not pick up the audio immediately when I use the 203 to stream titles off my NAS. This issue is resolved if I click on the forward button and then the play button to advance the title a few seconds. A minor annoyance.
Post by: bluepill193 on May 13, 2017, 13:01
Post by: debadgedA6 on May 13, 2017, 13:20
Thanks dXter. Can the analogue outs be such that FR FL are from XLR while the rest are via RCAs?
I don't see why not. Can't be just because you connect the xlr then the rest of the connection is cut off right? Then effectively it becomes a stereo player.
Post by: bluepill193 on May 13, 2017, 14:08
Post by: petetherock on May 13, 2017, 14:17
Post by: ngsk on May 13, 2017, 19:08
Post by: bluepill193 on May 13, 2017, 19:11
Post by: ngsk on May 13, 2017, 19:38
Post by: DaMacFunkin on May 13, 2017, 20:17
How about atmos or dtsx? Only via hdmi? I hope can combine xlr out, rca out and hdmi out.Atmos and DTS:X can only be bitstreamed due to the metadata, so HDMI only.
Post by: petetherock on May 16, 2017, 21:33
Nice DACs:
Quote
Dual SABRE PRO DACs
OPPO UDP-205 is equipped with two ESS Technology ES9038PRO DACs for both stereo and 7.1 channel analog audio. The ES9038PRO is the flagship of the ESS PRO series. It sets a new benchmark for audio excellence with its best-in-class 140 dB of dynamic range in a 32-bit, 8-channel DAC. The ES9038PRO SABRE DAC features ESS’ patented 32-bit HyperStreamDAC technology, which is responsible for the outstanding clarity and sound stage.
Post by: wizardofoz on May 17, 2017, 11:19
Post by: uelover on May 27, 2017, 21:16
I have purchased the UDP203 during the MO organised by wizardofoz in Dec 16/Jan 17, whom he claimed that the purchase invoice will be issued by SLT who is the authorised Singapore distributor for this product. When I physically collected the item from him (cash on delivery), he told me that he will submit the details of all the MO participants to SLT as a batch, and only after SLT has processed them would I receive the invoice from SLT.
To date however, I have not received the purchase invoice from SLT.
I have tried asking wizardofoz for assistance, only to be told by him that based on what he knows, SLT has already issued all the invoices to the buyers. I have tried to ask further what I could do to resolve this issue, but he did not respond further to my questions.
So, I would like to ask whether did those who purchase UDP203 during the MO received the invoice from SLT?
Also, could anyone share with me the contacts of the people at SLT so that I can give them a call? Thank you!
Post by: CASH on May 27, 2017, 21:27
SLT has already posted the invoice to my home address.
I am surprised that u haven't received yours.
have u changed address, or given a wrong address?
Post by: uelover on May 27, 2017, 21:30
I started the ball rolling on this issue..
SLT has already posted the invoice to my home address.
I am surprised that u haven't received yours.
have u changed address, or given a wrong address?
Thank you CASH for starting the ball rolling.
All the details were given to SLT via wizardofoz. The thing is, I cannot verify whether he has submitted it and if so, whether was it correct or incorrect.
I would like to check, but I do not know who in SLT to speak to.
Post by: wizardofoz on May 27, 2017, 23:18
SLT is also out station and I will chase this up yet again when I am back. I'm as disappointed as you are. I have no control over SLT's staff, so have to rely on what I am told has or hasn't been done, and only act accordingly when I hear something hasn't happened. This is the first I have heard you or whoever got your set hasn't received anything.
As I am outstation without my computer I don't have the mo spreadsheet with me so cannot check the specific details until I get back.
Post by: desray on May 28, 2017, 11:08
You have had a reply...I was driving to Malaysia and out for dinner there, so give some respect please before you complain about this or that. Don't expect an immediate reply just because you sent a message and I didn't reply immediately...people have other things on that are outside of your control too.
SLT is also out station and I will chase this up yet again when I am back. I'm as disappointed as you are. I have no control over SLT's staff, so have to rely on what I am told has or hasn't been done, and only act accordingly when I hear something hasn't happened. This is the first I have heard you or whoever got your set hasn't received anything.
As I am outstation without my computer I don't have the mo spreadsheet with me so cannot check the specific details until I get back.
Bro Wiz, I believed uelover is just a bit concerned that for too long he have yet to receive the hardcopy sale invoice. I'm sure he didn't mean any disrespect.
uelover, I think SLT staff is to be blamed for their oversight...there is nothing Wiz can do anything about it. Please let Wiz check for you when he returned. I'm sure even w/o the hardcopy receipt, if anything wrong with the Oppo player, SLT will still honor the warranty. No worries.
Post by: uelover on May 28, 2017, 18:57
Bro Wiz, I believed uelover is just a bit concerned that for too long he have yet to receive the hardcopy sale invoice. I'm sure he didn't mean any disrespect.
uelover, I think SLT staff is to be blamed for their oversight...there is nothing Wiz can do anything about it. Please let Wiz check for you when he returned. I'm sure even w/o the hardcopy receipt, if anything wrong with the Oppo player, SLT will still honor the warranty. No worries.
Thank you, desray.
Yes, I didn't mean any disrespect to anybody, and I am anxious to make sure that everything are in good order. If I could do that without troubling anyone (i.e. to contact SLT myself), I would.
Post by: desray on May 28, 2017, 19:09
Thank you, desray.Yep. I can read in between the lines based on your response. Hence I stepped in to post my comments before it blown out of proportion. U can rest assured wiz will help u in this regard. I can vouch for him that he's a true gentleman. The problem lies with SLT, not wiz and not you.
Yes, I didn't mean any disrespect to anybody, and I am anxious to make sure that everything are in good order. If I could do that without troubling anyone (i.e. to contact SLT myself), I would.
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Post by: rayleh on May 28, 2017, 23:09
Post by: trickle on May 29, 2017, 14:04
Post by: ronildoq on May 29, 2017, 18:03
Oppo has enabled Dolby Vision with its latest beta firmware.
Nice........ been waiting for this, i have tested some of the Dolby Vision files, doesnt work on the Oppo 203. Only works when plugged directly to the TV's USB port. But not a fan of beta firmware. will wait patiently for the official release, shouldn't be far off.
Post by: petetherock on May 29, 2017, 20:12
I can vouch for Wiz too, a true gentleman.I think bro Wiz is a regular stand up chap, who is trying to help us get a good deal..
Anyway, a new beta has Dolby Vision, so it won't be long..
Post by: InnocentBlood on May 31, 2017, 19:27
Post by: petetherock on June 07, 2017, 12:54
[/size]Category: Latest Official ReleaseMain Version: UDP20X-45-0605Loader Version: TF0033MCU Version: MCU203-01-1118 (UDP-203), MCU205-01-1220 (UDP-205)Release Notes: 1. Added Dolby Vision support. A Dolby Vision enabled TV is required to view content in Dolby Vision.2. Added Sharpness adjustment support for the 4K resolution.3. Improved HDMI audio stability when using an HDMI Split A/V connection4. Changed the color depth info display of the HDMI In port to 8b/10b/12b instead of 24b/30b/36b.5. General fixes and disc compatibility improvements based on recent and upcoming UHD Blu-ray releases as well as user-submitted samples.[/color]
Post by: ronildoq on June 07, 2017, 21:18
Dolby Vision works, logo appears on the TV. 1 HDMI to TV and 1 HDMI to AVR is still better.
Gapless playback is also available for supported files, under option, with this firmware upgrade. Played the rest of the files, so far good. Nice upgrade
Post by: luqman123 on June 07, 2017, 23:32
Post by: trickle on June 08, 2017, 02:13
do we to factory reset. then update or straight goes firmware update? thx.
I updated firmware, then cleared persistent storage, then factory reset.
Post by: petetherock on June 10, 2017, 15:57
The complete list of changes offered by the update is as follows:
– Added Dolby Vision support. A Dolby Vision enabled TV is required to view content in Dolby Vision
– Added Sharpness adjustment support for the 4K resolution
– Improved HDMI audio stability when using an HDMI Split A/V connection
– Changed the color depth info display of the HDMI In port to 8b/10b/12b instead of 24b/30b/36b
– General fixes and disc compatibility improvements based on recent and upcoming UHD Blu-ray releases as well as user-submitted samples
Post by: Real007 on June 12, 2017, 23:41
Post by: Muncher on June 19, 2017, 14:53
Thanks
Post by: mixtape on June 22, 2017, 00:01
I came across this thread on a Google search for the Oppo 203 jailbreak. I have been holding off buying the Oppo for the past few weeks once I learned of the issues with JB'ing the latest firmware. Is there currently a way for me to buy a player that can still be JB'ed while being able to upgrade to the recent firmware? I am in the US, but am open to purchasing a player from anywhere as long as I can still read the menus! :)
Post by: gaga on June 22, 2017, 17:08
I m looking to get the udp-203 . However my avr is the 1st gen avr-7200 without the "wa"
Would I be able to play bk uhd disc
Post by: petetherock on June 22, 2017, 17:12
Hi all,
I m looking to get the udp-203 . However my avr is the 1st gen avr-7200 without the "wa"
Would I be able to play bk uhd disc
That has nothing to do with the ability to play 4k discs. Have a look at the Denon website for the enhancements of the WA board exchange.
Even with a HDMI 1.4 amp, you can play and get lossless sound. But the range of options of decoding of sound formats is limited.
Post by: Infestedfred on June 23, 2017, 09:04
In order to use the app, is it required to have latest firmware installation in oppo 203?
Post by: Mattbee on June 25, 2017, 16:09
After jailbreak 1229 installation, are we still able to use the oppo MediaControl apps?I use the oppo media control with a JB 203 only thing is I have to add player manually by ip address. I can browse network files and control player through app. Works great to be honest.
In order to use the app, is it required to have latest firmware installation in oppo 203?
Post by: Mattbee on June 25, 2017, 16:13
Hi all,No is the answer unfortunately, I have JB 203 and stuck on old fw, Dolby vision update just released and if I update I lose JB, tough decisions at the minute.
I came across this thread on a Google search for the Oppo 203 jailbreak. I have been holding off buying the Oppo for the past few weeks once I learned of the issues with JB'ing the latest firmware. Is there currently a way for me to buy a player that can still be JB'ed while being able to upgrade to the recent firmware? I am in the US, but am open to purchasing a player from anywhere as long as I can still read the menus! :)
Post by: psychobilly on June 28, 2017, 16:05
I know it comes with 1 cable but I wanna get some
Thanks!
Post by: Takeshi18 on June 28, 2017, 16:46
Any reliable 4K/UHD HDMI cables to recommend for the Oppo 203?
I know it comes with 1 cable but I wanna get some
Thanks!
Audioquest Forest or Pearl - look for deals via carousell.
Post by: Kopi on June 28, 2017, 17:34
No is the answer unfortunately, I have JB 203 and stuck on old fw, Dolby vision update just released and if I update I lose JB, tough decisions at the minute.
I just got a 203. My old player is a 93 which I believe is region-free. So what will I missed out on the non-JB 203? Region B and C Blu-ray? Many of the blu-ray comes with multi-region these days..so I supposed we will be able to watch 90% of the blu-ray titles out there correct? Also HK, JPN should be region A too correct?
Post by: psychobilly on June 29, 2017, 09:58
Post by: ronildoq on June 29, 2017, 22:13
Waiting to try out dolby vision now power rangers
Post by: psychobilly on June 30, 2017, 08:03
The hardware mod from bluraychip.dk is otw too
Also replacing my 1.4 HDMI cables with Amazonbasics highspeed for my OLED TV, Oppo and Soundbar
Next hoot will be the Dolby Atmos/DTS:X soundbar. The Sony HTS5000 is under my radar.
Post by: Mattbee on July 01, 2017, 05:24
I just got a 203. My old player is a 93 which I believe is region-free. So what will I missed out on the non-JB 203? Region B and C Blu-ray? Many of the blu-ray comes with multi-region these days..so I supposed we will be able to watch 90% of the blu-ray titles out there correct? Also HK, JPN should be region A too correct?Only thing different with a jailbreak 203 would be disable cinavia and iso file, bdmv iso playback you can still have multi zone for blu ray with external/internal mod
Post by: Vinylfan on July 01, 2017, 19:35
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Post by: wizardofoz on July 01, 2017, 20:17
USA/UK markets always get first...well before tiny red dot
Post by: Vinylfan on July 01, 2017, 20:39
205 not available locally yet...an MO might be done when it is.Noted.
USA/UK markets always get first...well before tiny red dot
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Post by: ahduck on July 02, 2017, 00:53
Wonder why 205 takes longer. Almost 2 months since the unveiling and still no news of ETA.
Post by: tuakong on July 07, 2017, 17:00
I wanna rip a bluray disc on my PC but i do not have a external BR drive
Can I connect the 203 via usb to my PC to read the disc?
Sorry cant test myself cos no USB cable.....
Post by: gaga on July 08, 2017, 16:13
Silly question:
I wanna rip a bluray disc on my PC but i do not have a external BR drive
Can I connect the 203 via usb to my PC to read the disc?
Sorry cant test myself cos no USB cable.....
Post by: petetherock on July 10, 2017, 20:20
Post by: extinguisher on July 12, 2017, 14:43
Post by: Neutrals on July 13, 2017, 21:13
Post by: wyvern on July 15, 2017, 10:51
Anyone knows where I can get the Oppo 203?Can order from SLT store on Lazada. Or you might want to pm SLT here.
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Post by: Real007 on July 24, 2017, 16:27
It so strange that there are no news on delivery date.
Post by: Vinylfan on August 05, 2017, 16:35
Any news on 205 coming to town?Saw it in recent KL AV show. Also wondering is anyone selling it in Singapore yet.
It so strange that there are no news on delivery date.
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Post by: in1voice on August 06, 2017, 22:09
Post by: finclk on August 06, 2017, 22:12
Post by: mkwglyg on August 15, 2017, 19:25
Oppo is banned in sg ? Whats the deal?
Post by: CASH on August 16, 2017, 10:30
Have checked, SLT ， Anson audio， Sound Affairs, nobody have any stock of any oppo models new or old.
Oppo is banned in sg ? Whats the deal?
if u have a OPPO 105D, u can take my OPPO 203...
i have 3 XBOX ONE S 4K players with me at home to handle my 4K discs.
Post by: mercurystop on August 19, 2017, 13:00
Post by: Real007 on August 30, 2017, 17:40
if u have a OPPO 105D, u can take my OPPO 203...
i have 3 XBOX ONE S 4K players with me at home to handle my 4K discs.
I am tired of waiting for 205. Not sure is it better to get a dedicated CDplayer and 203?
Post by: CASH on August 30, 2017, 17:44
no love lost..
jus got too many 4K uhd players at home.
;D
Post by: jingwei79 on September 09, 2017, 20:02
Post by: ralfale on September 09, 2017, 21:41
Post by: CASH on September 09, 2017, 22:37
nothing wrong.
n they give u option of jailbreak set or just plain regular.
but if u are one of those who believe 365days of warranty is a must, then forget it.(totally singaporean spoiled attitude if u ask me, n if u think about hard, we get the worst coverage of warranty here in singapore, be it time or support)
jus take life with some lemons along the way.
hehehehe
Post by: wizardofoz on September 10, 2017, 13:42
Post by: wizardofoz on September 14, 2017, 12:01
sweet... now just need the 105 and sonica ranges to be added to the list
https://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-udp-203/UDP203-firmware-50-0913.aspx
Post by: shenzenus on September 25, 2017, 15:48
Post by: petetherock on September 26, 2017, 23:57
It includes a minor update for Dolby Vision compatibility.
Post by: Vinylfan on September 30, 2017, 13:46
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Post by: psychobilly on October 03, 2017, 09:04
The local distributor........ They not working ah.... Why no 203/205 available sia
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U mean 203 no stock? I got mine from local distributor but 205 no sound
Post by: ahduck on October 04, 2017, 21:45
Probably < 10qty local stock 205 owner in SG.
Not sure whether has this been asked.
But did anyone managed to program their Oppo on the Starhub Universal Remote Control DVD button?
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Post by: finclk on October 05, 2017, 09:06
There was stock in July.
Post by: psychobilly on October 05, 2017, 10:29
The 203 did have stock. But you need to reserve directly with SLT. SLT also does sell directly. So for obvious reasons, they would rather sell directly themselves if they can.
There was stock in July.
Yup I bought from SLT via Lazada which was $10 lower off the selling price
They were not aware so they agreed to “honour” Lazada price lol
Only $10 nia
Post by: petetherock on October 08, 2017, 13:18
Post by: 1AngMoh on October 08, 2017, 17:26
Thanks
1AM
Post by: Ericsky on October 12, 2017, 15:27
Improvement of Oppo UDP-203. It had upgraded to UDP-203 SE.
https://www.ohcooltech.com.tw/products/oppo-udp-203-se
The video link ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAknUbd-_GA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9D7sfSEbuYA
Post by: ronildoq on October 17, 2017, 08:23
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Post by: Tiktokape on October 17, 2017, 08:35
I just tested the 203 using it as CD transport to play music CDs, quality is far off from expectations... hopefully the 205 will not disappoint ... player is good for 4K HDR and Dolby vision, excellent. No issues playing high quality remux files encoded in hevc containers and HDR content...It is a BRP and not a pure CDP - the latter function serves as a versatile platform and that's it. You want something of a quality, you are better off to invest in a DAC of your budget. 205 just boxed all it in, clearly a step-up as always but you can't eliminate the fact that it is not a standalone player for music due to many features embedded in.
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Post by: ronildoq on October 17, 2017, 13:14
Post by: YANG on October 19, 2017, 01:09
Just sharing :)Pixture for those who don't read chinese
Improvement of Oppo UDP-203. It had upgraded to UDP-203 SE.
https://www.ohcooltech.com.tw/products/oppo-udp-203-se
(https://www.spill.hk/article/1506510624/150651277964737.jpg)
Post by: petetherock on October 19, 2017, 03:06
Moot for now since neither retail locally ..
It's been quiet so far.
多花 $3,700 也值得！相信售價是大家最關心的要素，OPPO UDP-203 SE 歐酷版的售價為 $8,999，比標準版多花 $3,700，筆者試完也覺得值得的，兩聲道效果有很大的改善，人聲變得更通透，高低頻延伸更佳，而弱音方面亦更細緻豐富。然而標準版亦會繼續發售，同樣是 $5,299。
Post by: luqman123 on October 19, 2017, 19:40
Post by: shenzenus on October 19, 2017, 19:57
lazy to dig old thread. can anyone tell me whether any issue playin mkv files ? thz.
No issue.
Post by: desray on October 19, 2017, 19:58
lazy to dig old thread. can anyone tell me whether any issue playin mkv files ? thz.
No issue but I will not use Oppo to playback mkv files. I will rather use a dedicated media player for that. I believed mkv files with Dolby Atmos remux still won't get a proper passthrough...it revert to LPCM (still lossless though)
Post by: Vinylfan on October 22, 2017, 11:37
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Post by: bluepill193 on October 22, 2017, 15:41
Post by: ronildoq on October 23, 2017, 08:42
No issue but I will not use Oppo to playback mkv files. I will rather use a dedicated media player for that. I believed mkv files with Dolby Atmos remux still won't get a proper passthrough...it revert to LPCM (still lossless though)
Hi desray, how did u come to know it reverts to LPCM? Which firmware were on when u encountered this? Did it happen with the rest of the mkv files? Could it be the source file of how it is being encoded?
There was a period in one of the software upgrade process I encountered this. The signal wasn’t passing through correctly to the Denon. Played another file, same case. Did a microprocessor reset on Denon, same case. Turns out the simple solution was to erase persistent storage and reset factory settings for accounts after the firmware upgrade. That did the trick
Post by: ahduck on October 23, 2017, 19:48
Post by: desray on October 23, 2017, 20:28
Hi desray, how did u come to know it reverts to LPCM? Which firmware were on when u encountered this? Did it happen with the rest of the mkv files? Could it be the source file of how it is being encoded?
There was a period in one of the software upgrade process I encountered this. The signal wasn’t passing through correctly to the Denon. Played another file, same case. Did a microprocessor reset on Denon, same case. Turns out the simple solution was to erase persistent storage and reset factory settings for accounts after the firmware upgrade. That did the trick
Thanks for the feedback. I have just updated my firmware recently for my Jailbroken Oppo 203. The JB firmware did not allow me to get a proper passthrough of the Atmos signal and Oppo simply output it as LPCM signal to my Denon AVR. I have yet to try another MKV with Dolby Atmos sound track embedded. I will give it another try to see if it is indeed resolved in the latest firmware build. I have been busy playing with the Egreat, hence didn't have time to play with the newly upgraded Oppo 203. Since you have brought to my attention, I will give it a try.
Post by: ronildoq on October 23, 2017, 20:41
Post by: wyvern on November 02, 2017, 06:33
Both player and avr are on its latest firmware and all settings are set to Auto, including AVR's. Tweaked a few settings on the AVR (i.e. enabled i/p scaler) as suggested by Desray but nothing seems to work.
Post by: desray on November 02, 2017, 07:27
There seems to be some handshaking issues between my UDP203 and Epson TW8200W pj. The player's home menu only shows if I turn on the player before the pj and regardless of whether the AVR (Denon X4200W) or player is turned on first. And if I switch to another input and back or turn on pj first, it shows no signal.
Both player and avr are on its latest firmware and all settings are set to Auto, including AVR's. Tweaked a few settings on the AVR (i.e. enabled i/p scaler) as suggested by Desray but nothing seems to work.
Bro, as mentioned there are a myriad of variables that need to be considered. Sometimes it is the resolution of the Oppo player that you are trying to send across to the display (in this case, your projector) could be a concern. Make sure you don't use UHD Custom and instead use Source Direct for a change. Sometimes it is the HDMI cable that is not able to support the high bandwidth required to send a proper "clean" signal to the projector. By the way, did a Factory Reset for your Oppo too to ensure all setting are revert to factory mode like Color Depth and resolution are all set to "Auto". As for the AVR, play around with the Video Conversion for the signal sent out by the Oppo player to the AVR to get properly synced before sending the signal to the Epson projector. Have you try all of these suggestions?
Post by: wyvern on November 02, 2017, 09:46
Bro, as mentioned there are a myriad of variables that need to be considered. Sometimes it is the resolution of the Oppo player that you are trying to send across to the display (in this case, your projector) could be a concern. Make sure you don't use UHD Custom and instead use Source Direct for a change. Sometimes it is the HDMI cable that is not able to support the high bandwidth required to send a proper "clean" signal to the projector. By the way, did a Factory Reset for your Oppo too to ensure all setting are revert to factory mode like Color Depth and resolution are all set to "Auto". As for the AVR, play around with the Video Conversion for the signal sent out by the Oppo player to the AVR to get properly synced before sending the signal to the Epson projector. Have you try all of these suggestions?
Did not attempt to use the UHD settings at all since the projector is only 1080p and the HDMI cable used is provided with the player so maybe tonight I will try to use Source Direct for a start.
Anyway, I have also sent a ticket to Oppo, and I'm pretty surprise their response was fast. They suggested changing the Color Space to YCbCr 4:2:2 and Color Depth to 10-bit. They also suggested that I connect directly from player to projector to test, which is no brainer, but I would have to remove my avr due to the layout of my console. If I set the HDMI to passthrough when power off, is it the same as connect direct?
Post by: desray on November 02, 2017, 19:23
Did not attempt to use the UHD settings at all since the projector is only 1080p and the HDMI cable used is provided with the player so maybe tonight I will try to use Source Direct for a start.
Anyway, I have also sent a ticket to Oppo, and I'm pretty surprise their response was fast. They suggested changing the Color Space to YCbCr 4:2:2 and Color Depth to 10-bit. They also suggested that I connect directly from player to projector to test, which is no brainer, but I would have to remove my avr due to the layout of my console. If I set the HDMI to passthrough when power off, is it the same as connect direct?
That is a reasonable response from Oppo. I try not to go into the YCbCr thingy as a factory reset will set everything to Auto and besides I doubt you change the Color space settings anyway. Unless of course you itchy hand...lol
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Post by: wyvern on November 03, 2017, 06:33
Anyway thanks for the help. Looks like not all Settings when set to Auto works.
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Post by: desray on November 03, 2017, 08:40
I changed the color space and depth to the suggested value and seems like it is working. Shall try a few more times to confirm. Because of this issue, I gave up the jailbreak to update to the latest firmware in hope that it works. Now no choice but to get the A10 for the BD iso playback.
Anyway thanks for the help. Looks like not all Settings when set to Auto works.
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Glad to know that its been resolved...By “right”, the Auto setting helps to do a proper negotiation between the player and the projector. For instance, 4:2:0 at 8bit is the baseline...it will transmit the signal to raw to the projector to do proper upscaling if you choose to use Source as output instead of Custom UHD setting as it sent out an interlace signal (lower bandwidth required) over to the long HDMI cable (apparently your HDMI not that good - it may not even be HDMI 2.0 compliant). By setting 4:2:2 at 8/10bit is the best as baseline conversion from 4:2:0 to 4:2:2 can be processed on your Oppo before transmitting it to the Epson projector to do a 4:4:4. If your cable quality or bandwidth (due to long distance covered) not up to the task, it will result in blank out or snowy static picture.
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Post by: 1AngMoh on November 03, 2017, 08:45
Post by: petetherock on November 03, 2017, 09:24
I still don't see any UDP 205's around. Does anyone know why? It was released some time ago.I think SLT has been rather quiet..
PI route anyone?
Post by: wyvern on November 03, 2017, 09:39
Glad to know that its been resolved...By “right”, the Auto setting helps to do a proper negotiation between the player and the projector. For instance, 4:2:0 at 8bit is the baseline...it will transmit the signal to raw to the projector to do proper upscaling if you choose to use Source as output instead of Custom UHD setting as it sent out an interlace signal (lower bandwidth required) over to the long HDMI cable (apparently your HDMI not that good - it may not even be HDMI 2.0 compliant). By setting 4:2:2 at 8/10bit is the best as baseline conversion from 4:2:0 to 4:2:2 can be processed on your Oppo before transmitting it to the Epson projector to do a 4:4:4. If your cable quality or bandwidth (due to long distance covered) not up to the task, it will result in blank out or snowy static picture.Surprising when I connect direct without passing through avr, it works on Auto. Something wrong with Avr coz when I check the video info on the avr, everything is - -. Thats means avr not receiving any signal from oppo?
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Post by: desray on November 03, 2017, 09:46
Surprising when I connect direct without passing through avr, it works on Auto. Something wrong with Avr coz when I check the video info on the avr, everything is - -. Thats means avr not receiving any signal from oppo?
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Bro, did you try my suggestion on the Video Conversion? set it to On and then turn on the progressive scaling.
Post by: wyvern on November 03, 2017, 10:17
Bro, did you try my suggestion on the Video Conversion? set it to On and then turn on the progressive scaling.Yup. Do you have any hdmi 2.0 compliant cable to loan so that I can test if the problem lies with the hdmi cable provided with oppo?
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Post by: bluepill193 on November 05, 2017, 10:35
Post by: desray on November 05, 2017, 10:43
For the 203, can I now get Dolby Vision from Netflix if I plug the chromecast ultra into the HDMI In?
Good question...although i have the hardware (Chromecast Ultra) and the Oppo 203, I just cancelled my Netflix 2 maths ago.
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Post by: bluepill193 on November 05, 2017, 12:04
Post by: desray on November 05, 2017, 16:02
I can get HDR 10 but not DV... for example with Daredevil. But PQ better than with the LG e6 web is, or when the CC was plugged into my Marantz SR7010
Thanks for the info.
Post by: Vinylfan on November 12, 2017, 17:35
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Post by: wizardofoz on November 12, 2017, 18:32
MQA now supported too
Post by: petetherock on November 12, 2017, 19:51
Since no Oppo 205 in Spore. I am thinking of buying in Malaysia.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171112/71c34b3a0935eb327c919b0d6c31a4a7.jpg)Nice bro, where did you see this?
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Irony isn't it, if we have to go North to get it..
Post by: Vinylfan on November 12, 2017, 20:12
Nice bro, where did you see this?At the KL Hi Fi show in July.
Irony isn't it, if we have to go North to get it..
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Post by: allfor4k on November 13, 2017, 14:10
at the same amont of M$6999/- .
Post by: flanker on November 13, 2017, 18:00
anybody keen for China Oppo 203 JB set able to support SACD & ISO playback.
Firmware as enclosedhttps://preview.ibb.co/kTGNJG/0_CC498_F0_AEBF_42_E4_B6_BB_9_CFBBC6_D0166.jpg (https://preview.ibb.co/kTGNJG/0_CC498_F0_AEBF_42_E4_B6_BB_9_CFBBC6_D0166.jpg)
You may PM brudder Kelvin Sin, search for his info in the forum.
He helped me got the JB 203 version, am happy with it.
Post by: desray on November 13, 2017, 20:15
Hi ,
anybody keen for China Oppo 203 JB set able to support SACD & ISO playback.
Firmware as enclosedhttps://preview.ibb.co/kTGNJG/0_CC498_F0_AEBF_42_E4_B6_BB_9_CFBBC6_D0166.jpg (https://preview.ibb.co/kTGNJG/0_CC498_F0_AEBF_42_E4_B6_BB_9_CFBBC6_D0166.jpg)
You may PM brudder Kelvin Sin, search for his info in the forum.
He helped me got the JB 203 version, am happy with it.
Why not release the link here if this is a free update? Unless of course, there is cost involved...
Post by: kelvinsin on November 13, 2017, 21:02
Why not release the link here if this is a free update? Unless of course, there is cost involved...Its not free, no free lunch in the world.haha...but i just help to source it if there has demand.
Post by: desray on November 13, 2017, 22:54
Its not free, no free lunch in the world.haha...but i just help to source it if there has demand.
Ok noted. I'm not surprised.
Post by: flanker on November 13, 2017, 23:16
Juz wana share with those brudders into 'jb-ing"
for those with constant upgrade in firmware, may not recommend though..
Post by: petetherock on November 30, 2017, 08:48
http://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-udp-203/UDP203-firmware-54-1127.aspx (http://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-udp-203/UDP203-firmware-54-1127.aspx)
Comparing to the previous Official release version UDP20X-51-0922, the major changes included in this version are:
Added support for MQA audio files on the UDP-205.
Improved compatibility for recently released and upcoming Dolby Vision UHD Blu-ray discs and TV firmware.
Improved compatibility for non-standard 4:3 aspect ratio media files.
General fixes and disc compatibility improvements based on recent and upcoming UHD Blu-ray releases as well as user-submitted samples.
Post by: petetherock on November 30, 2017, 09:46
http://www.bluraychip.dk/product.php?id_product=31
http://www.jvbdigital.nl/jvb.asp?cur=2&level=modifications&page=title&title=1284
Post by: AKY on November 30, 2017, 10:17
Post by: in1voice on November 30, 2017, 11:11
Hi anyone knows the 205 would be introduced in this week Hifi show? 203 was released last year at the show tooSound Decisions told me some weeks ago that they have not seen any Oppo for months, and not sure what is happening. SLT has not come forth to say anything to its valued customers here in XTP. So don't expect anyone here to be able to answer your question.
Post by: InnocentBlood on November 30, 2017, 12:57
Post by: kelvinsin on November 30, 2017, 13:39
just out of curiosity, for those of you who JB-ed your 203/ 205, are you currently able to play BD ISO files with full menu playback?This is no doubt. Else what purpose to jailbreak?
Post by: InnocentBlood on November 30, 2017, 13:45
This is no doubt. Else what purpose to jailbreak?
i wanted to clarify because the JB mods advertised BD region free playback only. so i guess being able to play BD ISO files is a happy by-product of the JB mod? because if I'm not mistaken, a brand new Oppo player doesn't play BD ISO files out of the box right?
Post by: kelvinsin on November 30, 2017, 13:52
i wanted to clarify because the JB mods advertised BD region free playback only. so i guess being able to play BD ISO files is a happy by-product of the JB mod? because if I'm not mistaken, a brand new Oppo player doesn't play BD ISO files out of the box right?Bd iso playback consider one of the biggest function of jb. Region free just means u able to play uhd from any region. Iso for sure will not support by any manufacturer because this will sued by film companies. This is the reason why oppo locked the rear door to enable jailbreak in international version few months ago, because been pressurized by international bd organization.
Post by: joagib on November 30, 2017, 18:21
Bd iso playback consider one of the biggest function of jb. Region free just means u able to play uhd from any region. Iso for sure will not support by any manufacturer because this will sued by film companies. This is the reason why oppo locked the rear door to enable jailbreak in international version few months ago, because been pressurized by international bd organization.
Hi bro!
I heard from few friends that you help them to freight in Oppo 203 jailbreak set?
Feedback for this jailbreak set was as described,they are enjoying all their ISO files now without problem..
Pls Pm me price and delivery duration to reach my doorstep(I will pay my own import tax according to custom bill),I'm very keen.
Thanks!
Post by: kelvinsin on November 30, 2017, 19:23
Hi bro!Wah dun say so leh bro, i just try helping to source, dun wan be high profile..pm me to discuss further la. Thanks!
I heard from few friends that you help them to freight in Oppo 203 jailbreak set?
Feedback for this jailbreak set was as described,they are enjoying all their ISO files now without problem..
Pls Pm me price and delivery duration to reach my doorstep(I will pay my own import tax according to custom bill),I'm very keen.
Thanks!
Post by: Marc9 on December 12, 2017, 15:42
Post by: AKY on December 13, 2017, 20:55
It seems we cannot obtain the 203 or 205 here in singapore
Has anyone bought directly from Oppo or Amazon ?
Post by: robneal81 on December 13, 2017, 22:51
Post by: DJQ on December 14, 2017, 09:44
SLT technologies phone number has no one to answer
It seems we cannot obtain the 203 or 205 here in singapore
Has anyone bought directly from Oppo or Amazon ?
i hear say SLT has some internal issues... anyone any infomation?
Post by: desray on December 14, 2017, 21:05
i hear say SLT has some internal issues... anyone any infomation?
You heard from who? where is your source?
Post by: AKY on December 14, 2017, 21:23
Post by: kelvinsin on December 15, 2017, 08:03
I was hoping someone here can help me out - I finally picked up a UDP-203, but I'm having a hard time finding where to buy the jailbreak firmware, as the two places I previously knew about aren't responding to emails. I'm currently on UDP20X-42-0329. Can anyone please help point me in the right direction? I just want to watch my ripped iso's over the network!No standalone jailbreak available on market especially international version.
Post by: DJQ on December 15, 2017, 08:59
You heard from who? where is your source?
a friend's friend. i cannot verify the creditability of the information hence i ask here anyone with firm information. not sure if wiz knows anything on it. i do not want jump into conclusions and confusions.
Post by: desray on December 15, 2017, 09:18
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Post by: desray on December 15, 2017, 18:15
I also no reply from WhatsApp for many months. I hope that all is well but no news is not always good.
I just whatsapp both Sean and Nic from SLT in the morning and despite the 2 blue ticks that indicated BOTH have seen my message, they did not respond to me. Usually either one of them would but this time round really had me worried.
I already sold off my Oppo UDP-203 4K UHD player a week back but I didn't expect anything untoward or amiss in SLT until now...this is definitely out of the norm. Anyway if I did receive a response from either of them, I will post it here if SLT willing to share what's happening.
Another way is to contact Oppo direct regarding the dealership in Singapore. At this point, SLT is the recognized authorized distributor for the Singapore market...you can see SLT been mentioned in the warranty booklet that comes with the player itself. Before we jump to any conclusion, let's wait patiently for Sean or Nic to respond to either myself or Wiz.
Post by: joagib on December 15, 2017, 19:00
Doorstep Delivery..Collection..Update of player..Replying emails.. Invoice..etc..All done by Nic himself.
Nic resigned a week before ISSE show..
Not likely he will reply to any emails..msg..whatsapp anymore if its regarding Oppo or SLT as he is no more with SLT(Not in a position to talk anymore)
*Btw..he still replies to a few of my friends in 'friends group' that he regarded us as friends...only friends casual talk.
Post by: robneal81 on December 15, 2017, 22:15
No standalone jailbreak available on market especially international version.Not at all? I have a player on the older firmware. Why wouldn't a jailbreak be available?
Post by: petetherock on December 15, 2017, 22:31
I hope Sean and co are ok too - I didn't get any replies from him either..
The machine is now quite mature and stable, and one of the few with DV enabled, so it's a prize still.
Anyone who wants the 205 will probably need to go PI, at least until SLT returns or someone else takes up the dealership..
Post by: desray on December 16, 2017, 06:52
AFAIK all along SLT seems like an OMO company run by Nic alone ..I see...thks for the update bro. In that case, I will not bother Nic anymore as it is no longer his burden to bear.
Doorstep Delivery..Collection..Update of player..Replying emails.. Invoice..etc..All done by Nic himself.
Nic resigned a week before ISSE show..
Not likely he will reply to any emails..msg..whatsapp anymore if its regarding Oppo or SLT as he is no more with SLT(Not in a position to talk anymore)
*Btw..he still replies to a few of my friends in 'friends group' that he regarded us as friends...only friends casual talk.
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Post by: desray on December 16, 2017, 07:03
It's a pity.. we have fans here, but I guess the Singapore volume of sales isn't big enough..Agreed with Pete, Oppo 4k UHD players still one of the better premium players to get for home theater enthusiasts. Don't let this dealership woes deter you from your purchase. Just have to import from China direct I guess...we have a MO segment in this forum, any member can take the lead to do a MO if there is a shortage of supply locally...meanwhile, let's pray that SLT continues to render her support to her existing customers, otherwise hopefully some local dealers like KEC, SD or Peng can take over.
I hope Sean and co are ok too - I didn't get any replies from him either..
The machine is now quite mature and stable, and one of the few with DV enabled, so it's a prize still.
Anyone who wants the 205 will probably need to go PI, at least until SLT returns or someone else takes up the dealership..
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Post by: kelvinsin on December 16, 2017, 07:39
Not at all? I have a player on the older firmware. Why wouldn't a jailbreak be available?Oppo closed the backdoor after complaint by BD Association. You think those jailbreaker really so smart to root the set? Everybody know a bd or even UHD player which enable BD ISO playback can greatly boost the sale. Dont ask me how real the news of source, up to you believe or not.
Post by: kelvinsin on December 16, 2017, 07:41
Agreed with Pete, Oppo 4k UHD players still one of the better premium players to get for home theater enthusiasts. Don't let this dealership woes deter you from your purchase. Just have to import from China direct I guess...we have a MO segment in this forum, any member can take the lead to do a MO if there is a shortage of supply locally...meanwhile, let's pray that SLT continues to render her support to her existing customers, otherwise hopefully some local dealers like KEC, SD or Peng can take over.
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Few bro pm me about the china lobang, im thinking to make a MO for this. But is this allowed as the local dealer is still selling it. Please advise.
Post by: desray on December 16, 2017, 07:51
Few bro pm me about the china lobang, im thinking to make a MO for this. But is this allowed as the local dealer is still selling it. Please advise.There is no hard and fast rule...it's a free market out there. But do bear in mind that as a MO organizer, u must specify your terms and conditions clearly to avoid any form of misunderstandings which may inevtiably lead to unhappy endings...hence doing MO is a rather huge undertaking from the part of the organizer but if done right and all the members that joined the MO knows what to expect etc...I dun see any issue with that. But let me state categorically that mods and admin will refrain from meddling or mediate for any unhappy customer service or quality of the products arising from the MO unless there is a criminal aspects to it where police report has been lodged.
Of course, at the end of the day, it is really up to the supplier in China whether they want to sell small quantities or they have already signed a MOU with SLT that no other Singapore based dealer/resellers shall be allowed to sell Oppo players in Singapore mkt. So you may want to check it out first.
Hope this is clear...
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Post by: desray on December 16, 2017, 08:54
As for SLT, he told me the company is still in operation. Hence SLT will continue to be the exclusive distributor for Oppo players here in Singapore. That's all I have to say for now.
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Post by: robneal81 on December 16, 2017, 09:00
Oppo closed the backdoor after complaint by BD Association. You think those jailbreaker really so smart to root the set? Everybody know a bd or even UHD player which enable BD ISO playback can greatly boost the sale. Dont ask me how real the news of source, up to you believe or not.Yeah, but that shouldn't have any effect on players with the old firmware. If a firmware was able to be jailbroken last year, that same firmware should be able to be jailbroken right now. Am I missing something?
Post by: kelvinsin on December 16, 2017, 09:10
Yeah, but that shouldn't have any effect on players with the old firmware. If a firmware was able to be jailbroken last year, that same firmware should be able to be jailbroken right now. Am I missing something?There is two types of available jailbreak now. One is 1229, u cant further go any version beyond this u less u send the set to china jailbreaker flash it with 0329.Its not simple as previous usb jailbreak, require open box and flash via special jig.
Another method is directly buy the set from him with pre-jailbreak with 0329.
Btw,unfortunately there is still no any jailbreak firmware after 0329 which support dolby vision, as this feature was released after june version. For those who fussy with this feature can just keep waiting till the day durian drop...
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Post by: petetherock on December 16, 2017, 10:33
By the way, a diy version 103 machine is coming out soon with jailbreak ready. Price at least half price of current used 103D. I may create a MO for it once released.Stay tune.bro is that the 203 or 103?
We have been talking about the 203 here leh..
A permenantly region free 203 will be nice.
Post by: kelvinsin on December 16, 2017, 11:53
bro is that the 203 or 103?
We have been talking about the 203 here leh..
A permenantly region free 203 will be nice.
Its 103. DIY 203 will be after Apr as the seller still waiting for the chipset.
DIY103 will be full jailbreak version.
Post by: ralfale on December 16, 2017, 14:06
Post by: wizardofoz on December 16, 2017, 15:18
He seldom gets time to log in here lately and not been in since earlier in the year. Perhaps he will update us later.
Post by: kelvinsin on December 16, 2017, 15:25
DIY means modified from original oppo or totally self assembled?Totally assemble by thirs OEM, but even the board also not 103 design, just the firmware using oppo.
Post by: CASH on December 16, 2017, 17:12
Nic was a one man show for SLT.
SLT, has no idea of how to run a business..
that's my Frank n honest view on the boss of SLT..
WAKE UP N GET YOUR MARBLES TOGETHER!!
Value your staff..
stop being selfish n thinking about yourself!!
grow up!!
Post by: CASH on December 16, 2017, 17:16
not gonna buy another Oppo, if SLT without Nic in the loop.
the boss of SLT is just like AVONE...
NO FREAKIN IDEA HOW TO RUN A BUSINESS!!
Post by: CASH on December 16, 2017, 17:37
SLT can't even answer calls!!!
the boss is so full of himself, that there is no time for small fish..
Warranty??? hmmmm..
if u can't have staff, jus because u can't afford to pay your staff proper pay, get out of the business!!
a real waste of time, human being...
Post by: CASH on December 16, 2017, 17:41
yup!!
I know, the price will go up by 25% to 30%,
but at least the clowns at AVONE will replace u with a cheaper option like marantz or Denon!!!
hahahaha!!!!
Post by: CASH on December 16, 2017, 17:56
no one will be a straight shooter like me in xtremeplace.
I tell it as it is..
pay ur staff well, n u can see long term rewards.
to the boss of SLT, GET YOUR MARLBLES TOGETHER, N VALUE YOUR STAFF!!
PAY THEM ACCORDINGLY!!
Post by: sigurros on December 16, 2017, 19:10
I am the only person who will stir Dragons out of their liar...
no one will be a straight shooter like me in xtremeplace.
I tell it as it is..
pay ur staff well, n u can see long term rewards.
to the boss of SLT, GET YOUR MARLBLES TOGETHER, N VALUE YOUR STAFF!!
PAY THEM ACCORDINGLY!!
Bro. Fully agree with you.
But do you mean marbles or Marlboro?
Confused leh. Lol
😂
Post by: CASH on December 16, 2017, 19:13
no marlboro for me.. i smoke dunhill.
to all xtremers out there..
i speak what i want to say, n i say it as it is.
No cock n bull story!!
Post by: Idlewise4ever on December 16, 2017, 21:01
Post by: robneal81 on December 16, 2017, 21:24
There is two types of available jailbreak now. One is 1229, u cant further go any version beyond this u less u send the set to china jailbreaker flash it with 0329.Its not simple as previous usb jailbreak, require open box and flash via special jig.Well, I'm already on 0329, so the firmware should still work for me! Can you post or PM me a link to the place in China that does it?
Another method is directly buy the set from him with pre-jailbreak with 0329.
Btw,unfortunately there is still no any jailbreak firmware after 0329 which support dolby vision, as this feature was released after june version. For those who fussy with this feature can just keep waiting till the day durian drop...
Also, can other people who are on later versions just remove the flash chip on it and reprogram externally like with the PS3?
By the way, a diy version 103 machine is coming out soon with jailbreak ready. Price at least half price of current used 103D. I may create a MO for it once released.Stay tune.That would be awesome! I know a lot of people that would buy a 103 and 203 this way. Do you have more information?
Post by: AKY on December 18, 2017, 12:36
Okay, the "boss man" himself havr finally responded...I have asked him to make a post here soon to help clarify what actually happened for the last few days...including no answer to phone calls from customers and perhaps to share what he is been busy all these while. Bottom line is, SLT is still very much "alive" ...hopefully this will instil some level of confidence to existing customers here.
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The issue is, will they be bringing in the 203 and 205?
Post by: desray on December 18, 2017, 12:45
The issue is, will they be bringing in the 203 and 205?Don't ask me, call SLT to find out more.
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Post by: williamsoo on December 22, 2017, 16:15
I placed an order with a dealer in August 2017 for a UDP 203 and last week the dealer asked me to contact SLT directly on the stocks status? Seriously??
Something is wrong with SLT.... closed down? Lost the Oppo player agency? Bankrupt? What is happening ?
Now I cant even get a refund from the dealer and asking me to substitute for other items which I am not interested.
Anyone can help? If not I will bring this up to CASE.
Post by: SLT on December 22, 2017, 17:05
I called SLT for the last 4 days and no one answer. What is happening ?Apologies, but we haven't visited Xtremeplace for long time - thanks to Bro Desray for notifying us. We mostly use our Facebook pages nowadays (https://www.facebook.com/SLTTechnologiesSG/ and https://www.facebook.com/slttechindo/). Our phone line (67023328) has been working fine, we get many calls everyday - not sure why you couldn't call in, may we know what number you have been calling the last 4 days? As for our company, we are doing fine. 203 & 205 targeted arriving January 2018. As for Nick, his replacement arriving January 2018 too. And Nick left us on very good terms, absolutely nothing to do with what has been wrongly said about it. Just check with Nick if you don't believe :-)
Post by: desray on December 22, 2017, 17:09
Apologies, but we haven't visited Xtremeplace for long time - thanks to Bro Desray for notifying us. We mostly use our Facebook pages nowadays (https://www.facebook.com/SLTTechnologiesSG/). Our phone line (67023328) has been working fine, we get many calls everyday - not sure why you couldn't call in, may we know what number you have been calling the last 4 days? As for our company, we are doing fine. 203 & 205 targeted arriving January 2018. As for Nick, his replacement arriving January 2018 too. And Nick left us on very good terms, absolutely nothing to do with what has been wrongly said about it. Just check with Nick if you don't believe :-)Thks SLT for clearing the air.
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Post by: crazysurfer on December 22, 2017, 18:02
203 & 205 targeted arriving January 2018.
Good to hear but any preorder offers or MOs being planned?
Post by: boe on January 07, 2018, 05:15
I have a US 203 with the current US firmware release. Are there any options to get this jailbroken with something that doesn't have the cinavia issue when streaming MKVs?
Post by: petetherock on January 11, 2018, 11:03
Post by: ronildoq on January 11, 2018, 12:43
Unboxing the 205- Built Quality is Superb
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1t_oek2TR9ZugqsVfJjt-9PFenlrp_R2q)
Front and back view of the set
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=19VPTr-qHQzCOEm8UlLXj46mB7MDt3wLd)
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1mdAby85Sb4ZVk-AgjJGbxLBMrFdP1obw)
Put in my fav CD for Music. Compared to the Oppo 203, this is like day and night difference. The quality is like 40% difference, not like 10% you read online. It is huge, Crystal Clear, clean sounding, very airy, very nice detailed layered bass (chair can feel tactile for music, nice), very musical. Superb audio quality over the little brother 203, the 203 is very far behind in quality compared to the 205. The Flagship Sabre DACs is very very good. Very happy with the audio quality. Worth it!
If you are playing through HDMI bitstream, the benefits will carry over if the AVR uses a synchronous clock. The jitter is greatly reduced. Over the HDMI ports, the improvement is like 15% in terms of audio quality.
In terms of video, i cant tell any difference with the OLED C7 TV.
Well worth superb built player!
I am using the 205 as
1. Media player, to play all my colleaction of remux MKV files
2. UHD with HDR and Dolby Vision and Bluray and DVD playback
3. Music CD with XLR activating the internal Sabre DACs. Will be in a different league with Ansuz XLR and Power Cord
4. Subwoofer analog out for Crowsons
5/5 star rating for me. One of the most important equipment in my HT chain
Post by: petetherock on January 11, 2018, 12:56
You must be the first!
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Post by: petetherock on January 11, 2018, 15:26
Can you use the 205 as an AV preamp to directly drive an amplifier?Some folks here do that..
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Post by: petetherock on January 11, 2018, 15:27
Check with sound affairs. They are the new dealers. I understand there's an launch promo now.Took over from SLT?
Post by: Sound Affairs on January 11, 2018, 16:29
I am James Soh from Sound Affairs Pte Ltd.
We are happy to announce that we are appointed by OPPO as Distributor for OPPO Digital Products (UDP-203 / UDP-205 / Sonica DAC) for the Singapore Market from now onwards.
Stocks of 203 / 205 / Sonica DAC are now in Singapore and available from us.
We are also having a Re-Launch Promotion for OPPO digital products, with bundled deals and launch offer as well. (Limited Stocks)
More details will be coming soon but do contact us if you have any questions at this point in time.
Thanks!
James.
Post by: in1voice on January 11, 2018, 18:47
From one of your customers :)
Post by: Tiktokape on January 11, 2018, 18:50
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Post by: AndrewC on January 11, 2018, 19:06
(Just curious... not that I need to replace my 103 for that duty ;D)
Post by: crazysurfer on January 11, 2018, 19:28
Hi all,
I am James Soh from Sound Affairs Pte Ltd.
We are happy to announce that we are appointed by OPPO as Distributor for OPPO Digital Products (UDP-203 / UDP-205 / Sonica DAC) for the Singapore Market from now onwards.
Stocks of 203 / 205 / Sonica DAC are now in Singapore and available from us.
We are also having a Re-Launch Promotion for OPPO digital products, with bundled deals and launch offer as well. (Limited Stocks)
More details will be coming soon but do contact us if you have any questions at this point in time.
Thanks!
James.
Glad to hear that SA got the distributorship to the new Oppo Players. With his excellent track record representing Singapore in major Shows with its' many well reviewed Power Supply and Power Cords, James is surely the guy fit to take on the Oppo Distributorship here, especially with his fantastic customer service.
James is a man of dedication & enthusiasm and I'm sure he will be up to it in terms of the service level of Oppo here in Singapore and bring back the reputation.
Do keep us updated on your MO, I will be sure to support SA and do include me in your MO list as soon as possible.
Post by: kelvinsin on January 11, 2018, 22:09
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Post by: ronildoq on January 12, 2018, 08:34
Nice bro, local set?
You must be the first!
Very nice indeed, local set! Long wait but well worth the wait for me. Pricey comparing the 203, more than double, but you will understand why when u hook it up....
Nice freebies too! Can contact James, but I think there is limited sets.
Post by: ahduck on January 12, 2018, 09:01
Old machine bought from SLT?
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Post by: dXter on January 12, 2018, 09:32
Post by: Sound Affairs on January 12, 2018, 10:21
The Re-launch Promotion for Oppo is now available here : http://www.xtremeplace.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=265330.0
The information passed down from OPPO HQ to us is that the previous distribution will handle the warranty and servicing of OPPO digital products sold by them, while Sound Affairs will service OPPO products bought from us from 2018 onwards.
We will not offer Jailbreak or multi-region options for the OPPO sold by us going forward.
James.
Post by: kelvinsin on January 12, 2018, 13:37
Post by: whitesox on January 12, 2018, 14:01
How about previous older models? Perhaps some users are still keen for 1080p/24
is 203 good to downscale 4k movie to 1080p/24 (smooth movie) ?
???
Post by: Tiktokape on January 12, 2018, 14:14
203 has been out almost one year. 205 is supposed to be out into SG end of the year but SLT went into silence. I don't have any issue with 203 on 2k Bluray when I still owned it.
Post by: ngsk on January 12, 2018, 21:21
Can you use the 205 as an AV preamp to directly drive an amplifier?
Yes 205 can be use as preamp to drive power amp,I'm using 105 to do that and today just got the 205 set-up is same as 105 u can combine the stereo/multi-ch output use the stereo pair for FL/R,SRL/R SRBL/R and sub wire to the multi-ch output for 7.1 system this way u using both 9038 pro dac chip in the player.Only downside is can't do atmos/dts-x plus no room correction/eq.
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Post by: Vinylfan on January 14, 2018, 10:00
Thanks. I just tried. I only have a pair of front speakers. I use Oppo 105 and down mixed everything to LT/RT mode to drive my amp and the front speakers. Sound not as powerful as I hoped. Maybe I still need an AV receiver/amp somewhere in the chain.
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Post by: Tiktokape on January 14, 2018, 10:08
Thanks. I just tried. I only have a pair of front speakers. I use Oppo 105 and down mixed everything to LT/RT mode to drive my amp and the front speakers. Sound not as powerful as I hoped. Maybe I still need an AV receiver/amp somewhere in the chain.You are using the digital volume control in OPPO - in my experience, it sounds softer compared against a separate stereo preamp or AVP which is in between the player and amp.
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Post by: Doggie Howser on January 14, 2018, 10:13
Post by: ronildoq on January 14, 2018, 12:27
Been listening since 9.30am, almost 3 hours, no fatigue. Just gets better. Flagship Sabre DAC power !
Just music today, SYOK lahhh!
Post by: StephenBishop on January 14, 2018, 13:17
Post by: petetherock on January 14, 2018, 13:38
Is the DVD player Region 1 or Region 3 on the Oppo 203 and 205 sold by Sound Affairs?I have posted a link previously to a Superdisc Iso, it's a free download that gives all Oppos code free access for DVDs.
Post by: Vinylfan on January 14, 2018, 14:13
You are using the digital volume control in OPPO - in my experience, it sounds softer compared against a separate stereo preamp or AVP which is in between the player and amp.That maybe it. Soft indeed compared to using my regular preamp to drive the amps in my 2-channel music setup.
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Post by: StephenBishop on January 14, 2018, 18:31
I have posted a link previously to a Superdisc Iso, it's a free download that gives all Oppos code free access for DVDs.Thank you. I just downloaded from the Oppo AU website. Will use if (when?) I get an Oppo 203 or 205!
Post by: ngsk on January 15, 2018, 08:10
That maybe it. Soft indeed compared to using my regular preamp to drive the amps in my 2-channel music setup.Hi are u using the dedicated stereo pair output(with xlr/rca)? Try use the xlr output and set to downmix stereo on audio processing for xlr this will bypass all speaker configuration give u full signal output to amp plus give u 6db more gain over rca. I agree with Doggie that the input sensitivity of amp/speaker matching are the key. Hope this help.
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Post by: Vinylfan on January 15, 2018, 09:02
Hi are u using the dedicated stereo pair output(with xlr/rca)? Try use the xlr output and set to downmix stereo on audio processing for xlr this will bypass all speaker configuration give u full signal output to amp plus give u 6db more gain over rca. I agree with Doggie that the input sensitivity of amp/speaker matching are the key. Hope this help.Tks for advice. No I use RCA from the FR and FL audio out to the RCA inputs of my power amps. The only xlr inputs on my power amps are already used up by my preamp for music.
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Post by: Audio on January 15, 2018, 09:53
(http://audio.sg/pic/oppo205-01.jpg)
Thanks James!!
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Post by: Sound Affairs on January 15, 2018, 10:27
My unit transported safely to HK last evening:-
(http://audio.sg/pic/oppo205-01.jpg)
Thanks James!!
(Audio)
Thank you Audio as well :).
The first batch of 205 is all sold out. We discussed with OPPO for another batch with special price. More infos here : http://www.xtremeplace.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=265463.msg1241837;topicseen#new
thanks !
James.
Post by: Audio on January 15, 2018, 10:50
All my previous 3 players exhibited some form of instability when I used dual HDMI in my system. (Samsung, Panasonic, Sony)
Here is the configuration.
(1) 4K Blu ray player; video HDMI 1 connects directly to Projector HDMI 2 video input. (I switch to HDMI 2 on the projector to get direct 4K feed from the player)
(2) 4K player; audio only HDMI 2 connects directly to AVP.
(3) AVP HDMI video output connects directly to Projector HDMI 1 input. This allows me to play from sources that only have one HDMI output or when I need to see the text overlay from the AVP, like in instances when I am doing setup.
I will get intermittent re-syncing and instability of the connections especially when I play dual mode from the 4k Player no matter what. Disconnecting the AVP video output to the projector solved the problem but hell, I don't want to physically connect and disconnect the AVP HDMI plug when I am changing sources.
Well, I have isolated the problems to AVP HDMI signal input sensitivity and the Denon AVP-HD1A seems to handle lower HDMI signal from sources better than the Marantz 8802A.
Now, the Oppo 205 just change it all. I tested this issue with the Oppo 205 for an hour and it seems very stable with the Marantz. The Oppo 205 output seems to be more stable than any of my previous players. All existing cables remained the same, I changed nothing except popping the Oppo into the chain.
I bought the Oppo 205 just based on superior build quality. The previous 3 players are cost efficient but do not have the "feel" and are very flimsy. I didn't expect that it fixed my HDMI problem... yes, maybe a little hopeful ....and the picture quality clearly surpassed any of my previous players. I didn't managed to do any blasting last night but I am so happy. :)
(Audio)
PS:...Oppo motion detection lighted remote control.....very appreciated by this owner. (Only Panasonic has lighted remote control.)
Post by: ronildoq on January 16, 2018, 13:25
1st Impression, its like OMG..... the voice of Optimus Prime from the centre channel " Before time begins......., Ultra Clean Vocals, deep bass kind of vocals.... fuuuuuu... Its that 1st impression that hits you hard.... deep deep ahhhhh... So far i think another actor has this type of voice besides Peter Cullen, Russel Crowe!
Im sure the Atmos file plays a part at source, compared to the Dolby TrueHD version, 10 years ago in 2007. Scenes were beautiful, bright where its supposed to be on the HDR10. A pleasant to watch. Cant wait to re-watch the whole movie again in the Oppo 205.....
Post by: ronildoq on January 17, 2018, 08:16
Another thing you may wanna check is the LFE signal in the Oppo analog out, if it provides for a +10db alignment gain. Normally on avr, the internal trim controls provide a 10db gain boost to the LfE channel. This is because movie contents in the bluray .1 track is recorded 10db lower. Some equipment provide for this alignment gain and some not. You may want to confirm.
The solution is to increase the gain on the subwoofer channel, to “make up” for this alignment in the gain structure.
Hope that helps
Post by: jerome_the_lang on January 17, 2018, 10:33
Post by: Audio on January 17, 2018, 12:57
Can the 205 be used to rip SACDs?
No.
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Post by: DJQ on January 17, 2018, 16:32
Post by: Audio on January 17, 2018, 18:26
say yes... there will be a frenzy to buy 205. ;D
You also got Laser 4K projector, you ought to buy one too....
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Post by: desray on January 17, 2018, 18:39
You also got Laser 4K projector, you ought to buy one too....
(Audio)
Must have deep pockets to afford a true native 4K laser projector at this juncture.
Post by: williamsoo on January 25, 2018, 11:50
Thks SLT for clearing the air.
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Just heard about the new distributor for Oppo.
So SLT (Sean) did not really tell the truth huh ....
tsk . .
>:(
Post by: sanhas on January 25, 2018, 17:24
Post by: StephenBishop on January 28, 2018, 12:29
Post by: ronildoq on January 28, 2018, 12:46
The Chinese sets gives buyers the options with firmware JB opportunity from other sources with an older firmware
Post by: StephenBishop on January 28, 2018, 13:01
Set is a Taiwan set, if u wanna upgrade your firmware, u need to download from Oppo Taiwan... reset it back to English if desired...
The Chinese sets gives buyers the options with firmware JB opportunity from other sources with an older firmware
Thanks for the explanation.
Post by: InnocentBlood on January 28, 2018, 17:22
Just came back from a shop selling oppo that can play full iso files and hvec files. Is it true that these players are already capable of doing that?
Is this shop in Singapore and does the Oppo model play region free DVDs & BD?
Post by: sanhas on January 30, 2018, 02:36
Post by: Doggie Howser on February 11, 2018, 13:35
Mode 2 is phenomenal.
Post by: petetherock on February 11, 2018, 14:18
Yes. It's in Singapore and it's region free.Are you saying that James selling region free Oppo Players? That's good, but it's news to me..
Post by: CASH on February 11, 2018, 15:07
it will work for models from 93, 95, 103, 103D, 105, 105D 203 n 205.
I can install it for u.
the models that will require more work, will be the 105, 105D, n 205..
as I have to remove the power board n analog board too..
if it's the "3" series, it super simple to install.
Post by: CASH on February 11, 2018, 15:10
it only let's u switch region for other region blurays.
Post by: Kopi on February 12, 2018, 16:54
Glad to know that its been resolved...By “right”, the Auto setting helps to do a proper negotiation between the player and the projector. For instance, 4:2:0 at 8bit is the baseline...it will transmit the signal to raw to the projector to do proper upscaling if you choose to use Source as output instead of Custom UHD setting as it sent out an interlace signal (lower bandwidth required) over to the long HDMI cable (apparently your HDMI not that good - it may not even be HDMI 2.0 compliant). By setting 4:2:2 at 8/10bit is the best as baseline conversion from 4:2:0 to 4:2:2 can be processed on your Oppo before transmitting it to the Epson projector to do a 4:4:4. If your cable quality or bandwidth (due to long distance covered) not up to the task, it will result in blank out or snowy static picture.
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So is it better to let the oppo 203 do the upscaling for 1080p to 4k or let the PJ do that? Is there significant diff? Also, how do you tell if the PJ is projecting upscaled 1080p? For my Sony 4K PJ, the info settings only show what the PJ is capable of displaying. Will not show you what is really output.
Post by: desray on February 12, 2018, 17:01
So is it better to let the oppo 203 do the upscaling for 1080p to 4k or let the PJ do that? Is there significant diff? Also, how do you tell if the PJ is projecting upscaled 1080p? For my Sony 4K PJ, the info settings only show what the PJ is capable of displaying. Will not show you what is really output.More often than not, projector on board upscaling will do a much better job than the player itself. Like I mentioned, it depends on the quality of the cable when sending the extra bits of information when internal upscaling performed at the player level.
In short, as far as possible, let the projector handle the upscaling for you will be more ideal.
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Post by: Audio on February 12, 2018, 17:28
So is it better to let the oppo 203 do the upscaling for 1080p to 4k or let the PJ do that? Is there significant diff? Also, how do you tell if the PJ is projecting upscaled 1080p? For my Sony 4K PJ, the info settings only show what the PJ is capable of displaying. Will not show you what is really output.
So, far, the best upscaling I have seen is done by Sony projector onboard , just make sure your Reality Creation setting is "On". Set your player to play at native resolution. This is in line with Desray's observation as well.
If you press Menu on your Sony projector remote, and then in the menu, you scroll to the last item at the bottom, you will see the the resolution that is being output to your projector from your source, together with your projector lamp hours. In this example, it shows 3840 X 2160 24 frames per second.
(http://audio.sg/pic/spidermanmenushot.jpg)
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Post by: Kopi on February 15, 2018, 11:40
So, far, the best upscaling I have seen is done by Sony projector onboard , just make sure your Reality Creation setting is "On". Set your player to play at native resolution. This is in line with Desray's observation as well.
If you press Menu on your Sony projector remote, and then in the menu, you scroll to the last item at the bottom, you will see the the resolution that is being output to your projector from your source, together with your projector lamp hours. In this example, it shows 3840 X 2160 24 frames per second.
(http://audio.sg/pic/spidermanmenushot.jpg)
(Audio)
Thks. Will try that tonight. I have turned off upscaling and upconversion on the oppo too. For color space, BT2020 seems to be be the best for me too.
Post by: boe on February 19, 2018, 04:19
if u guys need the hardware region free hardware, I have it for sale.
it will work for models from 93, 95, 103, 103D, 105, 105D 203 n 205.
I can install it for u.
the models that will require more work, will be the 105, 105D, n 205..
as I have to remove the power board n analog board too..
if it's the "3" series, it super simple to install.
Does it stop that annoying cinavia protection issue on the 203?
Post by: CASH on February 19, 2018, 06:15
if u play genuine, not pirate discs, u won't be bothered with cinevia.
Post by: jingwei79 on February 20, 2018, 22:58
Post by: drac407 on February 20, 2018, 23:52
Where is the link to get from James?
OPPO Digital UDP-203 / UDP-205 / SONICA DAC back in Stock!
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Post by: comfortablynumb on February 23, 2018, 17:33
Just wanna know what Video Custom Resolution settings you all are using for the 203.
I set mine as UHD Auto but most online review/setup recommended setting 1080p Auto.
Am using LG 65" OLED 2016 model and most of my settings on the 203 are Auto by default.
For Audio settings, I selected Bitstream instead of Auto though
Anyway, my BD collection are all 4K UHD....
Post by: jingwei79 on February 25, 2018, 10:42
Post by: DCLK on February 25, 2018, 11:40
Silly question....
Just wanna know what Video Custom Resolution settings you all are using for the 203.
I set mine as UHD Auto but most online review/setup recommended setting 1080p Auto.
Am using LG 65" OLED 2016 model and most of my settings on the 203 are Auto by default.
For Audio settings, I selected Bitstream instead of Auto though
Anyway, my BD collection are all 4K UHD....
I am rather surprised if 1080p setting is recommended for 4k. Therefore I am interested in the context of how users come to that setting, my guess is that would be the ideal setting for BD.
To get UHD quality, I set mine to UHD 24 for 4k. So far all the 4k In my collection have that specs except for Billy Lynn.
Post by: Mattbee on February 26, 2018, 06:37
Does HDMI output from 205 use the built in DAC for audio processing ? Or do we need the analog or XLR output to use the built in DAC for audio processing ?I'm sure you would have to use the analogue or XLR as the hdmi will just pass a digital stream to amp and then the amps DAC would be used.
Post by: Doggie Howser on February 26, 2018, 10:39
I am rather surprised if 1080p setting is recommended for 4k. Therefore I am interested in the context of how users come to that setting, my guess is that would be the ideal setting for BD.
To get UHD quality, I set mine to UHD 24 for 4k. So far all the 4k In my collection have that specs except for Billy Lynn.
I think the Oppo menu is in 1080p
Setting it to 4K24 means that it would work for most 4K movies and minimise sync times with some projectors like the JVC
Post by: DCLK on February 26, 2018, 11:12
I think the Oppo menu is in 1080p
Setting it to 4K24 means that it would work for most 4K movies and minimise sync times with some projectors like the JVC
I think your explanation makes sense for projectors, I did not think of that. Thank you.
Post by: comfortablynumb on February 26, 2018, 12:20
Post by: DCLK on March 03, 2018, 19:08
Post by: Doggie Howser on March 04, 2018, 09:39
But it didn’t pass through the audio.
It said MLP.
Post by: desray on March 04, 2018, 10:44
Hmm I tried using the Oppo to play some UHD HEVC 2160p clips with Atmos soundtracks.
But it didn’t pass through the audio.
It said MLP.
In mkv format I presume?
Post by: Doggie Howser on March 04, 2018, 11:18
Post by: desray on March 04, 2018, 12:44
Yes in MKV formatThen it is not a surprise Liao...this is a known issue...despite notifying Oppo about it, the engineers didn't think that it is a bug. I gave up long long time ago...only way to get over it, get a media player instead and in my case, the PCH A500.
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Post by: petetherock on March 04, 2018, 12:53
The Laser region free BR player in Oz does..
Post by: Doggie Howser on March 04, 2018, 12:59
Post by: Doggie Howser on March 04, 2018, 12:59
Then it is not a surprise Liao...this is a known issue...despite notifying Oppo about it, the engineers didn't think that it is a bug. I gave up long long time ago...only way to get over it, get a media player instead and in my case, the PCH A500.
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So PCH or Agreat?
So what PC chipset can play H.265 and HEVC
Post by: desray on March 04, 2018, 15:46
So PCH or Agreat?
So what PC chipset can play H.265 and HEVC
Get any of the 3 media players will do just fine.
1. HiMedia Q10 Pro
2. Zidoo
3. Egreat A10
For PC, it is not so much about chipset as it has to do with the s/w player. These days the graphics card will do the pass through for Atmos/DTS:X. I need to check it out since its been quite some time I have been playing with HTPC.
Post by: Doggie Howser on March 04, 2018, 16:40
My old HTPC already does Atmos passthrough over HDMI So was surprised the newer Oppo didn’t.
Post by: desray on March 04, 2018, 17:04
I guess I should have specified that I was looking to output HDR 2160p with Atmos
My old HTPC already does Atmos passthrough over HDMI So was surprised the newer Oppo didn’t.
If you wanted some tried and tested...get any of the 3 media players I've just mentioned. I can't speak for the others but for my Egreat A10, it can do 2160p HDR10 encoded with HEVC H.265 codec. As for DV still pending update via firmware (if you really believe that :P)
Post by: Doggie Howser on March 04, 2018, 18:18
One isn’t even enabled in Australia yet.
Post by: Audio on March 04, 2018, 20:33
(Audio)
Post by: Doggie Howser on March 04, 2018, 20:57
The Oppo is not a PC.But it is a media player which claims a lot of things.
(Audio)
HEVC - Atmos
Just like they claim MQA and Roon :) but apparently not at the same time.
Post by: Muncher on March 04, 2018, 21:03
Post by: ronildoq on March 05, 2018, 09:09
Hmm I tried using the Oppo to play some UHD HEVC 2160p clips with Atmos soundtracks.
But it didn’t pass through the audio.
It said MLP.
Are these the downloaded MKv files? If it is, try playing a Dolby 5.1 track within the file, or any other Dolby 5.1 file, then switch it back to this sound format, it should come back up with Atmos. That’s the workaround.Which file were u playing? A lot of times it is due to the avr. In this case it is the Oppo , I was having similar issues from the beginning. But that problem is gone with the latest firmware . Which firmware are u on?
Post by: Doggie Howser on March 05, 2018, 09:12
Post by: ronildoq on March 05, 2018, 09:16
I’m on the latest beta with HDR to SDR conversion.
Does it happen for all mkv files or specific ones? I just watched Thor HDR Atmos on mkv, didn’t encounter any issues
Post by: Doggie Howser on March 05, 2018, 09:19
Isn’t Thor on DTSHDMA only?
Post by: Doggie Howser on March 05, 2018, 09:20
Post by: ronildoq on March 05, 2018, 09:24
All files from what I gathered. Are you on a jailbreak firmware?
Isn’t Thor on DTSHDMA only?
Non JB, just the normal 205. Thor ragnarok is on HDR Atmos mkv, I think it’s a bug in the Oppo, when the first file is Atmos, if the second audio file is Atmos, first is say dts, then there is no issue... but I just watched Thor, no issues from start to finish. I’m on 27th nov 17 firmware , haven’t tried the latest
Post by: Doggie Howser on March 05, 2018, 14:02
I did notice mine said MLP when I opened an Atmos file
Post by: luqman123 on March 05, 2018, 15:03
Post by: Doggie Howser on March 05, 2018, 16:30
Which was the precursor for DVDA I think
Post by: ronildoq on March 05, 2018, 18:08
Are u using separate cables for audio and video ? If u have the cec/arc/earc “ turned on”on your display or tv,switch that off and try.
Are u using a Denon avr? The previous avr x6200 Denon I was using had the same issue. I believe Denon need to upgrade their firmware to conform to the international CEC standard
If you are on November 2017 firmware, I can confirm there is no issue with the Oppo 205 passing through Atmos on mkv remux files.
Post by: ronildoq on March 05, 2018, 18:17
Maybe it is my file.
I did notice mine said MLP when I opened an Atmos file
Nothing wrong with your file. It’s perfectly fine. I suspect it could be due to the AVR not having the latest EDID specification for Atmos....all equipment need to conform to this standard for it to work properly
Post by: Doggie Howser on March 05, 2018, 19:48
Nothing wrong with your file. It’s perfectly fine. I suspect it could be due to the AVR not having the latest EDID specification for Atmos....all equipment need to conform to this standard for it to work properly
The file plays in Atmos on a PC running Atmos
And obviously the Oppo plays Atmos on a disc
Post by: desray on March 05, 2018, 21:42
Nothing wrong with your file. It’s perfectly fine. I suspect it could be due to the AVR not having the latest EDID specification for Atmos....all equipment need to conform to this standard for it to work properly
Bro, there is no such thing as EDID for Atmos...EDID is related to Display Information signal send out from source to display. Atmos is an audio container, there is no link or connection to EDID.
Anyway back to the question of Dolby Atmos not able to be played back on Oppo, I have tried many times in the past and some mkv able to playback Dolby Atmos track just fine - for instance, if you download a test clip from Dolby website which was encoded in mkv format, it can actually playback fine on Oppo UDP-203 with no issue...but for some, it won't. This led me to believe that encoding could be issue. If we do a remux using say mkvmerge (MKNVToolNix) and make it m2ts, it sometimes work, sometimes don't...The only way Dolby Atmos work is to have the movie encoded in BD ISO or BDMV file structure...The point here is Dolby Atmos in mkv is a hit or miss thing for Oppo...because there is too many issues related to compatibility.
Post by: ronildoq on March 05, 2018, 22:06
Bro, there is no such thing as EDID for Atmos...EDID is related to Display Information signal send out from source to display. Atmos is an audio container, there is no link or connection to EDID.
Anyway back to the question of Dolby Atmos not able to be played back on Oppo, I have tried many times in the past and some mkv able to playback Dolby Atmos track just fine - for instance, if you download a test clip from Dolby website which was encoded in mkv format, it can actually playback fine on Oppo UDP-203 with no issue...but for some, it won't. This led me to believe that encoding could be issue. If we do a remux using say mkvmerge (MKNVToolNix) and make it m2ts, it sometimes work, sometimes don't...The only way Dolby Atmos work is to have the movie encoded in BD ISO or BDMV file structure...The point here is Dolby Atmos in mkv is a hit or miss thing for Oppo...because there is too many issues related to compatibility.
exactly what i thought and i actually told the LG engineer off in Singapore for taking the easy way out and pushing the blame to Onkyo without any evidence. Back then i was troubleshooting an issue on Dolby Atmos not playing vide netflix to AVR. I was convinced it was a Netflix or an LG issue. They later troubleshoot and escalated the issue to LG Korea and found that the firmware of the AVR was the culprit. I was told by LG engineers in Korea that they have this EDID standard that somehow affects the Audio Return channel, and that is causing the Dolby Atmos passthrough to fail on the AVR. At the same time they confirmed that denon has a similar issue. Yamaha AVRs were working fine and certain models of Onkyo working fine, which is why i am checking if doggie is using a Denon. They helped me write in to Onkyo to explain the cause and Onkyo promised a release firmware upgrade on 31st Jan18. True enough, after the firmware update on the RZ5100, everything works like a charm. Be it netflix atmos, ARC, Remux on oppo, everything pass through without issues.
Post by: desray on March 05, 2018, 23:10
exactly what i thought and i actually told the LG engineer off in Singapore for taking the easy way out and pushing the blame to Onkyo without any evidence. Back then i was troubleshooting an issue on Dolby Atmos not playing vide netflix to AVR. I was convinced it was a Netflix or an LG issue. They later troubleshoot and escalated the issue to LG Korea and found that the firmware of the AVR was the culprit. I was told by LG engineers in Korea that they have this EDID standard that somehow affects the Audio Return channel, and that is causing the Dolby Atmos passthrough to fail on the AVR. At the same time they confirmed that denon has a similar issue. Yamaha AVRs were working fine and certain models of Onkyo working fine, which is why i am checking if doggie is using a Denon. They helped me write in to Onkyo to explain the cause and Onkyo promised a release firmware upgrade on 31st Jan18. True enough, after the firmware update on the RZ5100, everything works like a charm. Be it netflix atmos, ARC, Remux on oppo, everything pass through without issues.
Firstly, I have to applaud LG for been THE MOST RESPONSIVE manufacturer. For every iteration of their OLED 4K TV, you can see how much effort they put in and also quick to get issues resolved on display related issues. Kudos to them...
Thanks for the info related to the ARC and firmware related fix for AVR to get proper bitstreaming of Dolby Atmos working on the LG TV. This seems to be a fix targeted at AVR connected to a TV source because of the built in Netflix app. But the question here is...for those w/o it...meaning media player, bluray player such as Oppo. For what its worth, if Onkyo and Yamaha can do it right, especially the former releasing a fix last month, perhaps Denon and Marantz (D&M) can do something about it as well. But for the time I have my Oppo UDP-203 pairing up with my Denon X7200WA, it did not work as well as I hope when it comes to mkv files with Dolby Atmos embedded tracks. Just wondering, if LG is kind enough to write in to Onkyo regarding their ARC related issue which they claimed to be a bug with their EDID, can they also write in on behalf of the D&M groups as well?
Post by: ronildoq on March 06, 2018, 08:21
Same for Oppo. Some of the remux files that couldn’t be played back on popocorn vten and a400, actually played flawlessly on the Oppo. The only downside so far is inability to play bdiso and ripped BDMV with full menu. Apart from that, it is a first class HDR bluray player 205. Still the player to beat for 2018. Interface, compatibility, quality, everything seems good.
Doggie may wanna try this:
1.after firmware update, reset to factory default
2. Erase persistent storage
3. Connect using a single HDMI straight from Oppo to AvR.
4. Switch off ARC on avr.
Try the above and report back if this works.
I’ve tested again on my oppo 205 last night , a few of the remux mkv files playback perfectely for Atmos HDR, no problem at all.
Post by: Doggie Howser on March 06, 2018, 14:38
Doggie may wanna try this:
1.after firmware update, reset to factory default
2. Erase persistent storage
3. Connect using a single HDMI straight from Oppo to AvR.
4. Switch off ARC on avr.
1. waiting for new firmware. None reported for Au models
2. might do that but my player is brand new
3. always did that
4. always did that
Post by: Doggie Howser on March 06, 2018, 21:12
MLP Atmos.
But sending out MPCM 7.1.
Post by: ronildoq on March 07, 2018, 08:50
Done firmware update. Erase persistent storage.
MLP Atmos.
But sending out MPCM 7.1.
Factory reset and disable hdmi cec on the Oppo ? Still same ?
Post by: Doggie Howser on March 07, 2018, 15:26
Post by: ronildoq on March 07, 2018, 19:43
https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1Q-8NSmecG6H2SGkgBK3FBdJkQfgk2LPo (https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1Q-8NSmecG6H2SGkgBK3FBdJkQfgk2LPo)
Post by: desray on March 07, 2018, 19:46
I'll give it another go but pretty sure CEC is off and I doubt factory reset would make a difference
Haha...still haven't give up ah?! Change AVR
Post by: Doggie Howser on March 07, 2018, 19:46
Haha...still haven't give up ah?! Change AVR
Fixed on 8805?
Post by: Doggie Howser on March 07, 2018, 19:49
I’m happy to keep buying UHD discs until my internet speed is up to speed.
Post by: kelvinsin on March 07, 2018, 23:10
Post by: ngsk on March 08, 2018, 12:59
Post by: DCLK on March 08, 2018, 22:50
Done firmware update. Erase persistent storage.
MLP Atmos.
But sending out MPCM 7.1.
My display says Atmos so I would assume it works. I am using stereo, prior to the firmware update, the sound was distorted.
Post by: Doggie Howser on March 09, 2018, 07:34
My display says Atmos so I would assume it works. I am using stereo, prior to the firmware update, the sound was distorted.
My Oppo says MLP Atmos 7.1
AVP reads - MPCM 7.1
Post by: sevenz on March 10, 2018, 15:36
Can i get some advice from everyone...
I was at first thinking to get the media player (zidoo or egreat or himedia).
But, i was also looking out for a Oppo 203 (need to play 4k BD discs) and understand the 203 can play media files too.
Can the oppo 203 play all types of media/downloaded files as well as a media player like the zidoo or egreat or himedia?
If it's worse, I will just get a media player.
If yes, i can save some monies and just buy the 203 only
Post by: desray on March 10, 2018, 16:31
very good info on how the oppo can play media files... Thanks for this guys.
Can i get some advice from everyone...
I was at first thinking to get the media player (zidoo or egreat or himedia).
But, i was also looking out for a Oppo 203 (need to play 4k BD discs) and understand the 203 can play media files too.
Can the oppo 203 play all types of media/downloaded files as well as a media player like the zidoo or egreat or himedia?
If it's worse, I will just get a media player.
If yes, i can save some monies and just buy the 203 only
Unless you just want to playback 4K UHD discs...otherwise I will advise against getting the Oppo for media file playback.
Post by: sevenz on March 10, 2018, 23:17
Looks like it's straight forward then =)
Just placed an order for the Zidoo X9S
Post by: desray on March 10, 2018, 23:21
Thanks desray.
Looks like it's straight forward then =)
Just placed an order for the Zidoo X9S
Great...I'm sure Zidoo X9S will be a great media player.
Post by: sevenz on March 10, 2018, 23:23
Great...I'm sure Zidoo X9S will be a great media player.
thanks for all the advice desray and other bros who have helped me in one way or another.
can't wait for it to arrive! cheers
Post by: wacko on March 11, 2018, 10:19
Unless you just want to playback 4K UHD discs...otherwise I will advise against getting the Oppo for media file playback.why do you say this? my experience with the 203 is that it is perfectly capable of playing media files, just that the GUI to do so is extremely basic.
Post by: Doggie Howser on March 11, 2018, 10:57
I’ve just played the 205 hooked up to my LG C7. That TV will report Atmos when I feed it from a UHD disc.
But when I play from the network SMB, it still shows MPCM MLP
Post by: desray on March 11, 2018, 11:44
why do you say this? my experience with the 203 is that it is perfectly capable of playing media files, just that the GUI to do so is extremely basic.
Wacko, it is one thing to know what a device is capable of doing versus the QUALITY and RELIABILITY (compatibility issues aplenty and arise if the encoder cannot be read) of doing it consistently with good results. Sure we can use a DVD player like Shinco to playback MP3 files or even a music CD but that does not mean I have to use it playback CD. For better quality and listening experience, one may wish to use a dedicated CD player to play the CD for it's obvious benefits. This analogy, though old but still gold applies to the playback of media players vs a universal Bluray player which is able to fulfil the same function as a media player but based on my experience, a dedicated media player and a good one i mean will yield better user and playback quality for MEDIA file consumption in the likes of 1080p movies encoded in different video/audio codecs like HEVC H.265, VP9, E-AC3, DD+ THD etc) into MKV or MP4 containers to name a few of the more prominent ones. Of course YMMV.
Hope it clears up...
@wacko: Thanks for pointing out the error on the part of the encoders and media container mixed-up. Typing on a tablet has its quirks :P
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Post by: desray on March 11, 2018, 11:56
thanks for all the advice desray and other bros who have helped me in one way or another.Make sure you read up Wilbur's thread on Zidoo X9S and post your queries there so that he and other owners can help you if you ever encounter any setup issues.
can't wait for it to arrive! cheers
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Post by: wacko on March 11, 2018, 12:20
Wacko, it is one thing to know what a device is capable of doing versus the QUALITY and RELIABILITY (compatibility issues aplenty and arise if the encoder cannot be read) of doing it consistently with good results. Sure we can use a DVD player like Shinco to playback MP3 files or even a music CD but that does not mean I have to use it playback CD. For better quality and listening experience, one may wish to use a dedicated CD player to play the CD for it's obvious benefits. This analogy, though old but still gold applies to the playback of media players vs a universal Bluray player which is able to fulfil the same function as a media player but based on my experience, a dedicated media player and a good one i mean will yield better user and playback quality for MEDIA file consumption in the likes of 1080p movies encoded in MKV or MP4 formats to name a few of the more prominent ones. Of course YMMV.MKV and MP4 are containers, not encoding formats.
Hope it clears up...
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Post by: desray on March 11, 2018, 12:31
MKV and MP4 are containers, not encoding formats.
Thanks for pointing out the typo error...And yes, I am aware of that...I am referring to the different encoders like HEVC H.265 Profile 4.1/5.0 and above...that goes into the authoring of the media before "putting it into a container like MKV and MP4.
Post by: wacko on March 11, 2018, 19:37
Post by: desray on March 11, 2018, 20:36
in the absence of any comparative reviews, let's just go along with the theory of it. step 1 of playing a media file is to decode it. once decoded, bits and bytes wise the video is exactly the same, irrespective of which device decoded it. and then there is post-processing done on the video, and that is essentially where you are saying an egreat will have better video post processing capability than a 203. somehow I doubt that...
Its okay to doubt...there is nothing wrong about it. You have your theory and I respect that. Like I mentionde YMMV...but for me, let's just say that I have the "privilege" to have direct experience with the Egreat and Oppo 203 to play with to come up with my conclusion. Again this is subjective as video chain from source to AVR, to video scaler and output to the internal scaling and chroma upsampling all have no small parts in contributing to the overall PQ. Source like media player and/or bluray player is but one part of the puzzle. For me, media player chipset are simply much more efficient in terms playback reliability and compatibility when it comes to playback of media files formats.
Post by: kelvinsin on March 11, 2018, 20:45
in the absence of any comparative reviews, let's just go along with the theory of it. step 1 of playing a media file is to decode it. once decoded, bits and bytes wise the video is exactly the same, irrespective of which device decoded it. and then there is post-processing done on the video, and that is essentially where you are saying an egreat will have better video post processing capability than a 203. somehow I doubt that...+1 i shocked with that theory as well. I owned x9s as well, but i wont use it to watch any bd format instead my 9700.
Post by: desray on March 11, 2018, 21:00
+1 i shocked with that theory as well. I owned x9s as well, but i wont use it to watch any bd format instead my 9700.
Hehe...thanks. I couldn't agreed more with your observation :)
Post by: YANG on March 13, 2018, 16:58
WahLauEhh... Mod until like this...
(http://www.avbuzz.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/oppo-205-ue1.gif)
The machine can tahan until 8k boh???
http://www.avbuzz.com/audio-video/201803/oppo-205-ue/
(http://www.avbuzz.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/oppo-205-ue1.gif)
The machine can tahan until 8k boh???
http://www.avbuzz.com/audio-video/201803/oppo-205-ue/
Post by: jingwei79 on March 17, 2018, 10:18
Post by: comfortablynumb on March 19, 2018, 17:09
Thanks James for the freebie!
Post by: comfortablynumb on March 21, 2018, 13:25
Very clear and musical. The music seems to jump out at you with very nice soundstage
Pity my integrated stereo amp dun have XLR connections
Am sure XLR connection will sound better
Listening to my CDs all over again
Post by: ronildoq on March 21, 2018, 13:28
Wow even with RCA connection, listening to CDs on the 205 there is significant difference as compared to the 203
Very clear and musical. The music seems to jump out at you with very nice soundstage
Pity my integrated stereo amp dun have XLR connections
Am sure XLR connection will sound better
Listening to my CDs all over again
You can easily tell the difference yea. Very nice, enjoy bro! i really enjoyed it too. I still think the Pro sabre DACs remains DAC of the yr 2017!
Post by: YANG on March 23, 2018, 09:22
http://www.youtube.com/v/uqhRyeWn23k&fs=1
Standard non-mod 205 if hoot in HK, aga aga SGD1K?
Standard non-mod 205 if hoot in HK, aga aga SGD1K?
Post by: Audio on March 27, 2018, 14:11
(Audio)
Post by: in1voice on March 28, 2018, 11:51
Post by: YANG on March 28, 2018, 12:01
Post by: Audio on March 28, 2018, 12:51
(Audio)
Post by: comfortablynumb on March 28, 2018, 22:50
Post by: jingwei79 on March 29, 2018, 10:19
Post by: Audio on March 29, 2018, 10:26
For the 205’s bros, do you guys use the analog out or hdmi to take advantage of the DAC? Not sure if hdmi out will use the DAC for processing as well.
I am seriously thinking of using my spare RCA interconnects to wire up the 205 to my Marantz 8802A via analog. From what I heard on stereo with the ESS9038PRO chip, it had given me this idea of running multichannel streaming from all the SACDs that I had already ripped. I truly believe this could sound better than using the Marantz DAC via HDMI.
(Audio)
Post by: finclk on March 29, 2018, 10:42
The 205's main and perhaps only real advantage over the 203 is all in the audio capabilities. Movies wise is same for video quality.
205 now cost $2400 by Sound Affairs at Shaw towers.
Post by: petetherock on March 29, 2018, 10:59
I am seriously thinking of using my spare RCA interconnects to wire up the 205 to my Marantz 8802A via analog. From what I heard on stereo with the ESS9038PRO chip, it had given me this idea of running multichannel streaming from all the SACDs that I had already ripped. I truly believe this could sound better than using the Marantz DAC via HDMI.Try it bro!
(Audio)
You have a solid system and that DAC is pretty impressive :)
Post by: ronildoq on March 29, 2018, 23:12
For the 205’s bros, do you guys use the analog out or hdmi to take advantage of the DAC? Not sure if hdmi out will use the DAC for processing as well.
The HDMI out doesn’t take advantage of the internal built in Sabre DACs, it sends a digital signal to the avr and the avr decodes that signal by converting that digital signal to an analog signal out to your speakers.
I’m working on a solution on how to take advantage of the built in Sabre DACs. Using the analog outs from Oppo 205 directly to the minidsp ddrc88a for Dirac eq. At the same time bitstream the digital signal to avr to decode Atmos channels. Then group time align the Oppo 205 with Onkyo rz5100 using accueq to set the distance so the core 5.1 channels uses the built in Sabre DACs from Oppo 205 and the Atmos channels and surround back uses the avr DAC.
with hdmi and analog out signals being active concurrently, this methodology may work.
So in short, the 7.4.4 set up will benefit by being able to utilise the Sabre DACs 5.1 core channels via analog out, at the same time having Dirac eq for all channels, group time aligned. I will post my findings soon....
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Post by: sevenz on March 30, 2018, 23:33
Post by: Vinylfan on March 31, 2018, 08:02
If you guys buy the 205, you definitely should be using analogue out instead to utilize the DAC chip inside the 205 instead of the DAC in your receiver.
The 205's main and perhaps only real advantage over the 203 is all in the audio capabilities. Movies wise is same for video quality.
205 now cost $2400 by Sound Affairs at Shaw towers.
If I just want to be able to play 4K discs, then 203 is no different from a 205 in PQ?
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Post by: ngsk on March 31, 2018, 08:58
my own impressions are that even on the 203/ 103, music (to my ears) sounds more musical and natural on the analogue RCA outputs VS using the HDMI.
When u using hdmi u're using the avr/avp dac not the oppo dac. To my understanding even when u are using analog out to connect to a avr/avp/preamp if u apply eq/room correction the signal need to be re-digital in order to apply eq/room correction n convert back to analog again by the avr/avp/preamp dac to output to power amp.So if u want to know how the oppo dac sound is to connect directly to power amp but need to set the output volume to variable n start low at 30-40 to prevent damage your speaker. In the other hand u can set the avr/avp/preamp to bypass/source direct but the signal go through one more device not direct from oppo.
Please correct me as I might be wrong on the da/ad/da part on the avr/avp/preamp.
Thanks.
Post by: ronildoq on March 31, 2018, 10:05
The Sabre DACs are first class. Absolutely brilliant.
It works for Atmos and Dirac through the DDRC88A. The only problem now lies in setting the group delays between the set of 7.1 speakers from Oppo, vs the 4 Atmos speakers sending signal through Onkyo.
I can hear a fraction of few millisecond off on the Atmos channels. The dialogue from centre and Atmos slightly off. I can set the individual delays on channel to fix this But I’m not sure how to set the group delays. setting the group delay is a real challenge.
The DAC is the Key in AVR. The Onkyo DAC is very far behind :(
So the theory for reviewing speakers stand, if it sounds good for music, it will definitely sound good for HT.
Anyone knows how to set the group delays ?
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Post by: petetherock on March 31, 2018, 10:14
The DAC is well implemented.
Post by: ronildoq on March 31, 2018, 10:18
Did the 7.1 out for sacds and ht before. Yep it sounds very good
The DAC is well implemented.
Super good the dac compared to the one I’m using on Onkyo rz5100 processor. Day and night.
If not using Atmos, this method of connection for 7.1 is highly recommended
Another thing is the lfe channel doesn’t have a 10db alignment gain like the avr. So to use the Oppo 205 as a preamp, one would need to reduce the trims of all channels by -10db or increase the LfE channel trim by 10db, if connecting directly to power amp
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Post by: ronildoq on March 31, 2018, 10:33
When u using hdmi u're using the avr/avp dac not the oppo dac. To my understanding even when u are using analog out to connect to a avr/avp/preamp if u apply eq/room correction the signal need to be re-digital in order to apply eq/room correction n convert back to analog again by the avr/avp/preamp dac to output to power amp.So if u want to know how the oppo dac sound is to connect directly to power amp but need to set the output volume to variable n start low at 30-40 to prevent damage your speaker. In the other hand u can set the avr/avp/preamp to bypass/source direct but the signal go through one more device not direct from oppo.
Please correct me as I might be wrong on the da/ad/da part on the avr/avp/preamp.
Thanks.
Yes u r correct. The other way is if u have an outboard eq like the minidsp, u can use room correction Dirac for the 7.1 analog out. It still goes through a digital analog conversion and introduces delay in the process. This delay is not a problem to sound quality. the problem I’m facing now is when combining two sets of speakers, one processed by Onkyo DAC( different processing clock hence different delay) for Atmos, the other on minidsp for 7.1.
If u r not into Atmos, u don’t even need an avr, just one Oppo 205 settle, it also has HDMi in for other devices to connect into it like Apple TV or Xbox
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Post by: petetherock on March 31, 2018, 11:35
Super good the dac compared to the one I’m using on Onkyo rz5100 processor. Day and night.Maybe you can post on how to hook up your system to fully utilize the internal DACs?
If not using Atmos, this method of connection for 7.1 is highly recommended
Another thing is the lfe channel doesn’t have a 10db alignment gain like the avr. So to use the Oppo 205 as a preamp, one would need to reduce the trims of all channels by -10db or increase the LfE channel trim by 10db, if connecting directly to power amp
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Cheers
Post by: ronildoq on March 31, 2018, 11:47
For the record, it is not the SABRE DACs are world class. It is that the 9038s are world class. Not the 9028, not the 9018/9016 etc.
Yes you are correct, the pro 9038s version on the Oppo 205. So good. Not sure about other versions, this version on the Oppo 205 is damn good
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Post by: ronildoq on March 31, 2018, 11:56
Maybe you can post on how to hook up your system to fully utilize the internal DACs?
Cheers
Sure, ill share how i hook this up. It can even work with Atmos, if one knows how to set the group delay. Breathtaking 7.1 when used with Dirac EQ with analog out on Oppo 205. Eye opener kinda of quality .
If Atmos doesn’t matter to you, then this is definitely the way to go.
Suddenly you are asking, why do I even need that avr? If they have an oppo 205 7.1.4 12 channels anaolog out with those 9038s dac, it would be damn awesome
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Post by: ngsk on March 31, 2018, 12:33
Super good the dac compared to the one I’m using on Onkyo rz5100 processor. Day and night.
If not using Atmos, this method of connection for 7.1 is highly recommended
Another thing is the lfe channel doesn’t have a 10db alignment gain like the avr. So to use the Oppo 205 as a preamp, one would need to reduce the trims of all channels by -10db or increase the LfE channel trim by 10db, if connecting directly to power amp
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Yes that how I run my ht since using the 105 and replace it with the 205.To me the improvement on the sq when listening to music over the 105 well worth the price different of $480 between the two.Blu-ray rip mkv movie pq also look better on the 205 plus due to the sq improvement watching same movie again is like watching a new movie.
On the sub out part u have to set the level 10bd more using cal. disc I'm using the Spears & Munsil 2nd edition disc. Take note that due to we normally set all speaker to small one have to add 5db more to sub level as the oppo will cut down 5db if any speaker is set to small for headroom.This is if u are using the 205 same as me as a preamp/processor.
If u want more detail can refer to AVS forum oppo 205 thread pg 10 there's a oppo beta tester name Bob B. I follow his post since oppo 105 n tested on 105 with good result so not using any avr/avp/preamp afer that.
For music do try out the digital filter mini phase slow sound more clean to me so I'm using it default is mini phase fast.
Post by: ronildoq on March 31, 2018, 13:03
Yes that how I run my ht since using the 105 and replace it with the 205.To me the improvement on the sq when listening to music over the 105 well worth the price different of $480 between the two.Blu-ray rip mkv movie pq also look better on the 205 plus due to the sq improvement watching same movie again is like watching a new movie.Very nice. I see your points.
On the sub out part u have to set the level 10bd more using cal. disc I'm using the Spears & Munsil 2nd edition disc. Take note that due to we normally set all speaker to small one have to add 5db more to sub level as the oppo will cut down 5db if any speaker is set to small for headroom.This is if u are using the 205 same as me as a preamp/processor.
If u want more detail can refer to AVS forum oppo 205 thread pg 10 there's a oppo beta tester name Bob B. I follow his post since oppo 105 n tested on 105 with good result so not using any avr/avp/preamp afer that.
For music do try out the digital filter mini phase slow sound more clean to me so I'm using it default is mini phase fast.
1. Benefit from pic is mainly because u r using Oppo directly to the pj or tv? In my experience, this is much better than going through the video card from the avr. The tv has got a better video chip, anytime, with same year of make
2. Have u come across a solution For Atmos using internal DAC on Oppo?
3. +10db alignment is needed because the mkv rips and bluray’s LfE channels are recorded 10db louder. The AVR’s internal trim controls provides for this 10db alignment but the Oppo 205 doesn’t. That is why this needs to be adjusted +10 dB on Oppo LfE channel.
4. For the 5db alignment, that would not be correct. As the signal comes in, the level is now 15db more than the mains. If you want to take advantage of the headroom, then that 5db gain should be adjusted at the sub amplifier, to compensate for the digital headroom, IF you are using the bass management from Oppo 205.
5. I don’t use the bass management from the Oppo 205. I set the oppo205 to full range. I use the ddrc88a bass management, that gives me the ability to not only use the dac but also set individual and group delays and level matching of all speakers with room EQ Dirac. Much more capable.
If you love the 7.1 with Oppo 205, then u should get a ddrc88a, very good. U can still use xlr out for stereo, 1 stone hit many birds
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Post by: ngsk on March 31, 2018, 14:51
Very nice. I see your points.
1. Benefit from pic is mainly because u r using Oppo directly to the pj or tv? In my experience, this is much better than going through the video card from the avr. The tv has got a better video chip, anytime, with same year of make
2. Have u come across a solution For Atmos using internal DAC on Oppo?
3. +10db alignment is needed because the mkv rips and bluray’s LfE channels are recorded 10db louder. The AVR’s internal trim controls provides for this 10db alignment but the Oppo 205 doesn’t. That is why this needs to be adjusted +10 dB on Oppo LfE channel.
4. For the 5db alignment, that would not be correct. As the signal comes in, the level is now 15db more than the mains. If you want to take advantage of the headroom, then that 5db gain should be adjusted at the sub amplifier, to compensate for the digital headroom, IF you are using the bass management from Oppo 205.
5. I don’t use the bass management from the Oppo 205. I set the oppo205 to full range. I use the ddrc88a bass management, that gives me the ability to not only use the dac but also set individual and group delays and level matching of all speakers with room EQ Dirac. Much more capable.
If you love the 7.1 with Oppo 205, then u should get a ddrc88a, very good. U can still use xlr out for stereo, 1 stone hit many birds
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1.Yes direct from 205 to lg 65c7.
2.No,never read anything about that also I worry about over head speaker drop on
someone head when playing bass heavy movie.
3/4.Yes sub level need +10db my oppo sub trim is on 0,all speakers trim done when oppo volume at 100 the addition +5db according to the beta tester was the design of the oppo bass management. Using antimode dc to eq all 4 subs I found it quite true as if only set +10db read 85db on spl meter the bass level was no so good when playing movie so I set the antimode dc house curve to lift 6 tilt 5 it sound just right for me,for music both set at 3. All volume adjustment done on sub amp.
5.I'm running 7.4 without centre ch,quite happy about it for music n ht.I think once u done basic 7.1 ch properly it's 80% done one should have some overhead effect/sound out of it if the source have it plus I need avr/avp to go atmos/dts-x which I not going to buy unless no more multi-ch analog out on oppo or u found out how to do it without avr/avp. BTW nice subs u have listen to music 2 ch or multi-ch with subs still sound better then without.
One last thing is I combine the 2 ch n multi-ch analog out on the oppo to setup my 7.4 system so 2 Ess9038 pro dac are in use fl/fr xlr out to power amp the rest rca out to power amp.
Post by: ronildoq on March 31, 2018, 20:06
So there is an internal 5db trim on the Oppo LFE if bass management is in use.... ahhh, no wonder, because I didn’t use the bass management in Oppo 205. I used the BM in ddrc88a
Gosh, hope Oppo comes out with one that has 7.1.4 for Atmos, that would be great
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Post by: YANG on March 31, 2018, 20:45
Very nice . I have just learnt about this awesomeness on the Oppo 205. ...Its abt how many stage the initial recorded information in a disc is delivered eventually to ur ear... To make it simple to understand, how DACs in between different gears processes the audio 1s n 0s that hv effects on how the final audio visual experience is get at the final stage.
This is also why i m still using my old avr with discrete analogue connection from the source.
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Post by: ngsk on April 01, 2018, 09:15
Very nice . I have just learnt about this awesomeness on the Oppo 205. For a moment there I was like... wait a sec... should I downgrade to 7.4? It’s that good
So there is an internal 5db trim on the Oppo LFE if bass management is in use.... ahhh, no wonder, because I didn’t use the bass management in Oppo 205. I used the BM in ddrc88a
Gosh, hope Oppo comes out with one that has 7.1.4 for Atmos, that would be great
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One more thing to get the best out of your 205 to play music is to rip all your cd/sacd/dvd-audio to hdd n playback using the usb3.0 port,I found it sound better then playing the disc itself plus can use the oppo media control app to select n play no need to change disc can play any file inside the hdd.
Yes I also hope one day oppo can do 7.1.4 ch analog output.
Post by: ronildoq on April 01, 2018, 09:46
One more thing to get the best out of your 205 to play music is to rip all your cd/sacd/dvd-audio to hdd n playback using the usb3.0 port,I found it sound better then playing the disc itself plus can use the oppo media control app to select n play no need to change disc can play any file inside the hdd.
Yes I also hope one day oppo can do 7.1.4 ch analog output.
Bro, u r very wise indeed to take this route, take full advantage of the 205 dac. There is no need for an avr if only 7.1 is required. Save $$ on avr.
U should try this with 1 unit ddrc88a using Dirac live eq. When u use this with the 7.1 channels EQ with Dirac, the group delays for 7.1, channel levels, phase,bass management, full range EQ with target curves will bring your entire system up to another level, trust me if U have taken this route, u must get the ddrc88a to pair with this for the 7.1, TOP class HT system pair. Not very expensive comparing to the high end Dirac capable avr, of course those can do atmos and this can’t, the only downside
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Post by: ronildoq on April 01, 2018, 10:16
I may not be using any highend playing source, i m still happy to enjoy what i get from the source, thru cables n lines n eventually the amplification stage as well as the speakers at the end.
Most important be happy with what u hear. But in music and HT, a lot of us are always trying to improve the system and take full advantage of whatever we get/bought.
Good quality stuff don’t come cheap, the value is always there for a reason. When I saw the price variation between the 203 and 205, I was like what???? So much diff ? But when u plug that cable into the 205, u will understand why. Yes it is still the 1 and 0, but the difference is the DAC and jitter reduction clock design in the 205, world class indeed.
I have since reverted to the Atmos set up using the avr dac now. The system pales in comparison to the analog 7.1 out on Oppo. even playing the Atmos tracks (supposedly with higher dynamic range), is still not as good as the Oppo 205 7.1. Everything the same in the set up,nothing changed, just plug out HDMI for analog out....
I miss the Oppo 205 analog, it’s so so good, very natural crystal clear 7.1
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Post by: ronildoq on April 01, 2018, 12:07
The Yamaha 3070 uses the Sabre pro dac 9026 pro, this should be good, but not sure if it is in the same league as the 9038 pro. But I think it won’t be far off. Seems like Yamaha is one I can consider down the road
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Post by: Jagdpanzer on April 01, 2018, 13:34
For < $3k DAC, not many brands. The latest Mytek Brooklyn+ also does not use 9038.
For the record, it is not the SABRE DACs are world class. It is that the 9038s are world class. Not the 9028, not the 9018/9016 etc.
Post by: ronildoq on April 01, 2018, 13:39
9038Pro has customisable FIR filter & 140dB DNR, very different league.
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I see, I just came to realise its benefits with HT application , been using it for music, great, then suddenly switched connections on the 205 to analog and it’s like wow, out of this world
Have u come across any avr or processor that uses the 9038 pro Sabre dac like the one used by Oppo 205?
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Post by: Doggie Howser on April 01, 2018, 13:53
Which DAC uses Sabre 9038s besides Oppo Sonica and their latest 105/205? I wonder if the 9038 makes a huge difference in performance.
For < $3k DAC, not many brands. The latest Mytek Brooklyn+ also does not use 9038.
I strongly suspect what makes the 9038 sound so good is that it was designed in conjunction with the late Hansen of Ayre. In fact the QX5 had an exclusivity on the chip for about a year.
It’s not just SNR per se.
Imho.
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The Yamaha 3070 uses the Sabre pro dac 9026 pro, this should be good, but not sure if it is in the same league as the 9038 pro. But I think it won’t be far off. Seems like Yamaha is one I can consider down the road
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9026 is not the same as the 9038. Far from it.
I’ve heard the Yamaha AVRs and consistently prefer the AKM4458s used in the Marantz 6012 And also the integra DRX4.
Post by: ronildoq on April 01, 2018, 14:07
9026 is not the same as the 9038. Far from it.
I’ve heard the Yamaha AVRs and consistently prefer the AKM4458s used in the Marantz 6012 And also the integra DRX4.
I see, thanks for the heads up doggiehowser
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Post by: Boxerfan88 on April 01, 2018, 14:08
The 9038Pro allows the product designer to tweak the sound digitally.
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Post by: CASH on April 01, 2018, 14:18
Which DAC uses Sabre 9038s besides Oppo Sonica and their latest 105/205? I wonder if the 9038 makes a huge difference in performance.
For < $3k DAC, not many brands. The latest Mytek Brooklyn+ also does not use 9038.
Gustard DAC-X22
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/GUSTARD-DAC-X22-ES9038PRO-I2S-XMOS-HiFi-DAC-PCM384K-DSD512-DOP-Decoder/32844275291.html?spm=2114.10010108.1000013.1.559f9526QwImY5&traffic_analysisId=recommend_2088_1_99728_iswistore&scm=1007.13339.99728.0&pvid=9286999b-08f8-401d-922d-05e78d6b3116&tpp=1
L.K.S Audio MH-DA004
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/L-K-S-Audio-MH-DA004-Dual-ES9038pro-Flagship-DAC-DSD-Input-Coaxial-BNC-AES-EBU/32800182861.html?spm=2114.10010108.1000013.9.2e88102aj3e45v&traffic_analysisId=recommend_2088_5_99728_iswistoregraebd&scm=1007.13339.99728.0&pvid=1aca3276-defb-40eb-b2d8-0bdffe44450b&tpp=1
Post by: ngsk on April 02, 2018, 07:58
Bro, u r very wise indeed to take this route, take full advantage of the 205 dac. There is no need for an avr if only 7.1 is required. Save $$ on avr.
U should try this with 1 unit ddrc88a using Dirac live eq. When u use this with the 7.1 channels EQ with Dirac, the group delays for 7.1, channel levels, phase,bass management, full range EQ with target curves will bring your entire system up to another level, trust me if U have taken this route, u must get the ddrc88a to pair with this for the 7.1, TOP class HT system pair. Not very expensive comparing to the high end Dirac capable avr, of course those can do atmos and this can’t, the only downside
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Bro u are right buying 205 over 203 is to make full use on the dacs n analog output.Might have to demo your system see how it work but from their website seem like need avr/avp to connect to the ddrc88a n no xlr input/output.
On the atmos part if your avr can cal. only the overhead speaker can u combine it with the ddrc88a 7.1 ch? Only problem I see is u have to due with 2 volume control.
Post by: ronildoq on April 02, 2018, 08:14
Bro u are right buying 205 over 203 is to make full use on the dacs n analog output.Might have to demo your system see how it work but from their website seem like need avr/avp to connect to the ddrc88a n no xlr input/output.
On the atmos part if your avr can cal. only the overhead speaker can u combine it with the ddrc88a 7.1 ch? Only problem I see is u have to due with 2 volume control.
I am using 2 units of ddrc88a, no problem with volume control, that can also be done on the ddrc. Meaning calibrate everything to reference on both avr and ddrc then use only the master volume on the ddrc, that works as well. It has balanced and unbalanced connection. No issue there as well.
On the Atmos part, no problem again when bitstream the signal from 205 to avr, both analog and hdmi channels are active concurrently on the 205. Avr able to detect Atmos and overhead speakers all work.
Only problem is setting the group delay between the two units. Because of the unit going through an avr, there is some delay introduced into the digital to analog signal. I can fix the individual channels delay, no problem again. But not sure how to fix the group delay. That is the part I don’t know how to do. Normally this is done by the avr through audyssey, accueq etc
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Post by: ronildoq on April 02, 2018, 19:01
Link here... http://www.esstech.com/index.php/en/news/newsroom/ess-technology-introduces-sabre-pro-series-dacs-setting-new-performance-bar-unprecedented-140-db-dynamic-range/
Some snap shots, the experience with these dacs are really to a new level
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Post by: petetherock on April 03, 2018, 06:47
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Farewell
It has been 14 years since we established OPPO Digital in the United States, and with the support of our customers, technical partners, and movie/music studios, we produced many award-winning Hi-Fi audio products and universal disc players, spanning three generations from DVD, Blu-ray, to 4K UHD.
As our latest 4K UHD players reach the pinnacle of their performance, it is time to say goodbye. We are proud to have made such well-regarded products and to have served the enthusiast community. Without our customers' suggestions, encouragement, and support, we could not have accomplished these achievements.
Though OPPO Digital will gradually stop manufacturing new products, existing products will continue to be supported, warranties will still be valid, and both in-warranty and out-of-warranty repair services will continue to be available. Firmware will continue to be maintained and updates released from time to time. Customers can rest assured that they will continue to receive the high quality service and support that they have come to expect from OPPO Digital.
We greatly appreciate the opportunity to have developed such exciting products for our customers. It has been an honor.
Best regards,
All of us at OPPO Digital
Post by: petetherock on April 03, 2018, 06:48
https://www.oppodigital.com/farewell.aspx (https://www.oppodigital.com/farewell.aspx)
From their US website
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Frequently Asked Questions:
As announced on April 2nd, 2018, OPPO Digital will gradually stop manufacturing new products. Existing products will continue to be supported, warranties will still be valid, and both in-warranty and out-of-warranty repair services will continue to be available. Firmware will continue to be maintained and updates released from time to time. Customers can rest assured that they will continue to receive the high quality service and support that they have come to expect from OPPO Digital. The following FAQ provides answers to questions that may arise from the announcement.
How do I receive technical support for my OPPO product?
Technical support will continue to be available. Please visit the product support page on the OPPO Digital web site (https://www.oppodigital.com/Support.aspx (https://www.oppodigital.com/Support.aspx)) for self-guided support, and use the following contact form to submit your customer service request: https://www.oppodigital.com/ContactUs.aspx (https://www.oppodigital.com/ContactUs.aspx)
How do I set up in-warranty or out-of-warranty repair service for my OPPO product?
Repair service will remain available for OPPO Digital products. Please use the following contact form to submit your repair service request: https://www.oppodigital.com/ContactUs.aspx (https://www.oppodigital.com/ContactUs.aspx)
Will there still be firmware upgrades for my OPPO products?
Yes, products will continue to receive firmware upgrades from time to time when new features or bug fixes warrant such an upgrade. Newer products such as the UDP-203 and UDP-205 will likely receive more frequent upgrades while mature products such as the BDP-103 and earlier models will only get firmware upgrades if there are critical fixes. If your player is connected to the Internet, you can check for firmware upgrades by going to the Setup Menu / Device Setup / Firmware Upgrade / Via Network. New firmware will also be posted on the support pages of the corresponding products (https://www.oppodigital.com/Support.aspx (https://www.oppodigital.com/Support.aspx))
I purchased my OPPO product less than 30 days ago. Am I still able to return it for a refund?
OPPO Digital continues to offer its 30-day Money Back Guarantee for products purchased directly from OPPO Digital within the last 30 days. If you would like to return your product for a refund, please use the following contact form to submit your refund request: https://www.oppodigital.com/ContactUs.aspx (https://www.oppodigital.com/ContactUs.aspx)
I am still interested in OPPO's products - how can I purchase one?
OPPO Digital's products can still be purchased through the OPPO Digital web site, OPPO Digital's authorized resellers and OPPO Digital's overseas distributors. As we gradually stop manufacturing new products, certain models may go out of stock and no longer be available sooner than other models.
Will OPPO Digital develop and release future generation of products?
From now on, OPPO Digital will focus our main effort on organizing and ensuring long term support for the existing generation of products. As such, we will not have the resources to develop and release new generations of products.
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Post by: petetherock on April 03, 2018, 07:10
Which shop selling now?Sound Affairs
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Post by: YANG on April 03, 2018, 09:35
...so long they continue to keep production line running for 203 and 205, the value of these 2 players will/should... retain.The OPPO Digital product company is registered in U.S. if i'm not wrong on assumption?
Trump's taxing policies affects companies, that manufactures their products in China, send back to U.S. for market wide sale, right? So... if a company's earning going to be affected in such a way... Wouldn't it be more efficient to wind up the company in U.S. re-set up in other country and relaunch their product under different brand, riding on their old brand product reputation?
Post by: petetherock on April 03, 2018, 09:50
i guess thats it. no new products means no more revenue coming in and expect current product line to continue selling. a very high up decision. the chase to create new products has proven to be very taxing as each time each product matures. so long they continue to keep production line running for 203 and 205, the value of these 2 players will/should... retain.That depends on whether the Firmware keeps up too..
Post by: DJQ on April 03, 2018, 10:43
The OPPO Digital product company is registered in U.S. if i'm not wrong on assumption?ah i believe so. so bring back production plant to the proud US of A. its been so long we had made in USA products.
Trump's taxing policies affects companies, that manufactures their products in China, send back to U.S. for market wide sale, right? So... if a company's earning going to be affected in such a way... Wouldn't it be more efficient to wind up the company in U.S. re-set up in other country and relaunch their product under different brand, riding on their old brand product reputation?
Post by: noahnoah on April 03, 2018, 11:07
Any 203 owners who done the upgraded
at sound affairs?
Post by: YANG on April 03, 2018, 11:37
ah i believe so. so bring back production plant to the proud US of A. its been so long we had made in USA products.Haaa... A CD player made in US of A oredi commands mid 4 digit figures liaoz... BluRay? Be expect a pricing like Runco or Theta during laserdisc time lo...
Post by: Vinylfan on April 03, 2018, 11:50
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Post by: noahnoah on April 03, 2018, 12:18
I still think oppo the best after selling
Other 4k player brands
Post by: dXter on April 03, 2018, 14:41
Post by: ronildoq on April 06, 2018, 13:40
Bro u are right buying 205 over 203 is to make full use on the dacs n analog output.Might have to demo your system see how it work but from their website seem like need avr/avp to connect to the ddrc88a n no xlr input/output.
On the atmos part if your avr can cal. only the overhead speaker can u combine it with the ddrc88a 7.1 ch? Only problem I see is u have to due with 2 volume control.
hey bro, you can drop if you wish on the 28th Apr18, im free the whole weekend. I am following you, am downgrading from atmos to go 7.4 + crowsons. still find that the combination of the Sabre 9038 + DDRC-88a Dirac is just unbelievably too good. Totally out of this world i am willing to scarifice the atmos overheads. Ill wait patiently until we see one well design unit AVR with Dirac and Pro Sabre dac... long wait i suppose, but im finally happy with this combination, match made in heaven indeed.
Post by: ngsk on April 06, 2018, 15:44
hey bro, you can drop if you wish on the 28th Apr18, im free the whole weekend. I am following you, am downgrading from atmos to go 7.4 + crowsons. still find that the combination of the Sabre 9038 + DDRC-88a Dirac is just unbelievably too good. Totally out of this world i am willing to scarifice the atmos overheads. Ill wait patiently until we see one well design unit AVR with Dirac and Pro Sabre dac... long wait i suppose, but im finally happy with this combination, match made in heaven indeed.
Sure bro,will pm u if I'm going.Like I said b4 a good/properly setup 7.4 system is 80% done for ht overhead speakers are side dish,was surprise that u need the crowsons while u have 4X Seaton F18s.
I plan to use my OPPO 205 as long as it last as it's damn good was thinking to buy 1 more for spare as I need the multi-ch analog output for multi-ch SACD/DVA-A(both 5.1) & dts-cd(in 6.1 ch) music files.I'm 70%/30% music/ht my main usage are music file playback.The way I use the 205 there's no other player that can replace the 205 in my setup.For those who have setup the 205 like u & me they will know how good it sound,for $2.3k you've a very good dac+disc/media player nothing more I can ask for.Hopefully in the next few yrs there's some thing better coming out.
Post by: Audio on April 06, 2018, 16:49
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Post by: Kopi on April 06, 2018, 17:58
Post by: ronildoq on April 06, 2018, 18:10
Sure bro,will pm u if I'm going.Like I said b4 a good/properly setup 7.4 system is 80% done for ht overhead speakers are side dish,was surprise that u need the crowsons while u have 4X Seaton F18s.
I plan to use my OPPO 205 as long as it last as it's damn good was thinking to buy 1 more for spare as I need the multi-ch analog output for multi-ch SACD/DVA-A(both 5.1) & dts-cd(in 6.1 ch) music files.I'm 70%/30% music/ht my main usage are music file playback.The way I use the 205 there's no other player that can replace the 205 in my setup.For those who have setup the 205 like u & me they will know how good it sound,for $2.3k you've a very good dac+disc/media player nothing more I can ask for.Hopefully in the next few yrs there's some thing better coming out.
The crowsons add in a different dimension to the set up, also using the ddrc88a to tweak with house curve for this. Very happy with everything now. Including this route. U r absolutely right, u can’t ask for more at this price.
After evaluating, I find that a superior 7.1 is way more satisfying than a mediocre 7.1.4. So satisfied I don’t mind the Atmos speakers being the white elephant for now until I find an avr or something in this range. Gotta wait patiently
Post by: ngsk on April 06, 2018, 21:43
Do you do discrete on 5.1 music for 205? My issue is that most new AVR does not allow discrete RCA/balance Inputs.
No,using the XLR output as FL/FR on the stereo out n the rest using RCA from the 7.1 multi-ch out on the OPPO to run my 7.4 system.Directly connect to 3X stereo power amp not using centre ch sub out to antimode dc for eq 4 subs,the two set of analog output can be combine to form a 5.1/7.1 setup with this u use both 9038pro dac inside the 205.Just use a cal. disc to set each ch level,set basic speaker configuration inside audio setup on 205 n set volume output to variable start at 30~40 should be safe.No need to use avr use 205 volume control.I set my ref level at 100 on the 205,music playback from 50-80 depend on the source.
Post by: badbad2000 on April 08, 2018, 08:02
https://www.oppodigital.com/farewell.aspx (https://www.oppodigital.com/farewell.aspx)
Post by: ronildoq on April 08, 2018, 19:09
Downside is you cannot enjoy Dolby Atmos and DTS:X, it will be downmixed to TruHD & DTS-HD MA
Dont get me wrong, Atmos and DTS:X is the way to go. But until i come across an AVR/Processor with this quality, ill just stick to 7.1
So here is how:
1. Connect All analog outs to the DDRC-88a RCA in
2. Set output to PCM 192k on the Oppo 205.
3. Set all speakers to Large in the Oppo 205, trims 0, distance 0 (screen shots), 7.1 if u using 7 speakers
4. Connect the Main HDMI on oppo to HDMI ARC on TV (for Netflix and YouTube 5.1). Again no atmos for Netflix. When using this, use Audio in button on the Oppo to toggle for ARC. TV out use HDMI ARC, tv will send that 5.1 signal to oppo
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1A3jV3vMPtpiOQKleYYXAgw6B1ycSpDcd)
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1M36VA11eq2kjmmFJPJlJRW-xa73lw0Lf)
Done on Oppo 205. Straight forward indeed. Now comes DDRC-88a
1.First run Dirac EQ on all speakers including Subs using 7.1 configuration. (There is no need to turn on Oppo 205). Reason for using 7.1 is because Dirac will configure for a 10db alignment gain on the LFE track. So u must use this because the Oppo doesnt provide for this alignment unlike the normal AVR
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1t22wkk38SAlMECycC2Y2VRNfrqlYvLdf)
2. DDRC does the time alignment and group delays for all 8 channels inc sub, Level matching of Mains and Crossover optimisation between subs and mains, this is the benefit of DDRC-88a, providing mixed phased EQ in the process and superior soundstange and imaging from all 8 channels. You can set your target curves etc, that is a separate topic altogether
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1MUj-YpYZn26elPIetLrEjo5Yn-1Lk6v_)
3. Configure bass management in DDRC. Because the LFE channel is recorded 10db louder than the rest of the channels and in order to maintain the channel balance in bass management module, you will need to reduce the mains by -10 on the DDRC bass management tab as below. The Oppo's internal trim setting does not provide for this 10db alignment gain, hence u need to set it on the Bass management module when the signal arrives.
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1go5QuPwsfMr6V92zFIi9Pf4pO6DFzdV2)
4.Turn on bass management on routing tab. Turn On LFE mgt it will show 0 db, off LFE in 1 on Dirac 3 (sub channel) as below
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1cO8YomgP6_3Mk17FiC_J0WTQ6e4FI-ik)
5. Set your Speakers Crossover(depends you need to measure).Good start 80hz 24db LinkwitzRiley. Set the LFE to 120Hz LP butterworth filter. There is no need for High pass, can be set to bypass
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1kQOGJQH45JeaNMTubOZrG84nP7_UClou)
6. Here is how it looks at the output tab.I have the crowson actuator added on to this. You can also add any bass shakers etc.
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1w2-J0PIz1MwJGTKz8Q0kRLNUYDi6mBDe)
7. I have also added a high shelf filter for the crowsons actuator. bro ngsk was asking me why. its very good now you can add high pass and a high shelf filter.At 40hz gain is -5, 30hz -4, and 20hz -3... so on. Very natural indeed. Low pass 40hz
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=17PChLYxmWjP2h7OvCNJmUYXEJaWDTErB)
i am absolutely thrilled with this set up. 7.4 with actuators. I finally am happy with what i am hearing. I finally know what im seeking in my future upgrade for atmos and the sound signature and details i love. Eye opener indeed.For music, ive left it un-EQed, with the XLR stereo out directly to my XPA-1 balanced connections. HT uses unbalanced RCA. Do not be concerned with the DDRC-88a going through a digital analog conversion. The benefit of implementing Dirac for HT far outweighs the concern for DA conversion, especially for HT. EQ full range, Group delay and time alignment is much more important for a superior soundstage and imaging, including blending of mains with subs.
Enjoy!
Post by: Count on April 08, 2018, 20:56
oppo digital said bye bye :(
https://www.oppodigital.com/farewell.aspx (https://www.oppodigital.com/farewell.aspx)
Shocking. This is the sad state of physical media today.
Post by: sevenz on April 08, 2018, 21:00
For those keen to use Oppo 205 7.1 with Dirac Live room correction, here is how you can do it. This method takes advantage of the internal Sabre Pro9038 DAC. This DAC uses a precision Seiko custom-built Surface Acoustic Wave (SAW) oscillator clock eliminating timing errors, superior ultra low jitter with excellent phase noise performance. This results in a "Top Class" 7.1 HT system.You can read up more on this. https://www.oppodigital.com/KnowledgeBase.aspx?KBID=129&ProdID=UDP-205.
Downside is you cannot enjoy Dolby Atmos and DTS:X, it will be downmixed to TruHD & DTS-HD MA
Dont get me wrong, Atmos and DTS:X is the way to go. But until i come across an AVR/Processor with this quality, ill just stick to 7.1
So here is how:
1. Connect All analog outs to the DDRC-88a RCA in
2. Set output to PCM 192k on the Oppo 205.
3. Set all speakers to Large in the Oppo 205, trims 0, distance 0 (screen shots), 7.1 if u using 7 speakers
4. Connect the Main HDMI on oppo to HDMI ARC on TV (for Netflix and YouTube 5.1). Again no atmos for Netflix. When using this, use Audio in button on the Oppo to toggle for ARC. TV out use HDMI ARC, tv will send that 5.1 signal to oppo
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1A3jV3vMPtpiOQKleYYXAgw6B1ycSpDcd)
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1M36VA11eq2kjmmFJPJlJRW-xa73lw0Lf)
Done on Oppo 205. Straight forward indeed. Now comes DDRC-88a
1.First run Dirac EQ on all speakers including Subs using 7.1 configuration. (There is no need to turn on Oppo 205). Reason for using 7.1 is because Dirac will configure for a 10db alignment gain on the LFE track. So u must use this because the Oppo doesnt provide for this alignment unlike the normal AVR
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1t22wkk38SAlMECycC2Y2VRNfrqlYvLdf)
2. DDRC does the time alignment and group delays for all 8 channels inc sub, Level matching of Mains and Crossover optimisation between subs and mains, this is the benefit of DDRC-88a, providing mixed phased EQ in the process and superior soundstange and imaging from all 8 channels. You can set your target curves etc, that is a separate topic altogether
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1MUj-YpYZn26elPIetLrEjo5Yn-1Lk6v_)
3. Configure bass management in DDRC. Because the LFE channel is recorded 10db louder than the rest of the channels and in order to maintain the channel balance in bass management module, you will need to reduce the mains by -10 on the DDRC bass management tab as below. The Oppo's internal trim setting does not provide for this 10db alignment gain, hence u need to set it on the Bass management module when the signal arrives.
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1go5QuPwsfMr6V92zFIi9Pf4pO6DFzdV2)
4.Turn on bass management on routing tab. Turn On LFE mgt it will show 0 db, off LFE in 1 on Dirac 3 (sub channel) as below
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1cO8YomgP6_3Mk17FiC_J0WTQ6e4FI-ik)
5. Set your Speakers Crossover(depends you need to measure).Good start 80hz 24db LinkwitzRiley. Set the LFE to 120Hz LP butterworth filter. There is no need for High pass, can be set to bypass
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1kQOGJQH45JeaNMTubOZrG84nP7_UClou)
6. Here is how it looks at the output tab.I have the crowson actuator added on to this. You can also add any bass shakers etc.
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1w2-J0PIz1MwJGTKz8Q0kRLNUYDi6mBDe)
7. I have also added a high shelf filter for the crowsons actuator. bro ngsk was asking me why. its very good now you can add high pass and a high shelf filter.At 40hz gain is -5, 30hz -4, and 20hz -3... so on. Very natural indeed. Low pass 40hz
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=17PChLYxmWjP2h7OvCNJmUYXEJaWDTErB)
i am absolutely thrilled with this set up. 7.4 with actuators. I finally am happy with what i am hearing. I finally know what im seeking in my future upgrade for atmos and the sound signature and details i love. Eye opener indeed.For music, ive left it un-EQed, with the XLR stereo out directly to my XPA-1 balanced connections. HT uses unbalanced RCA. Do not be concerned with the DDRC-88a going through a digital analog conversion. The benefit of implementing Dirac for HT far outweighs the concern for DA conversion, especially for HT. EQ full range, Group delay and time alignment is much more important for a superior soundstage and imaging, including blending of mains with subs.
Enjoy!
Nice...
If u sacrificed your Atmos channels for this , shows how good it is man.
Post by: ronildoq on April 09, 2018, 13:37
Nice...
If u sacrificed your Atmos channels for this , shows how good it is man.
Bro, it is damn bloody good ! Not joking... after this I actually switched back to atmos on Onkyo rz5100 , then listened again to confirm, so much difference. Then now I have switched back again to Oppo, very very happy and satisfied. Recoup some cash from the Onkyo. Don’t need the processor. Watching Netflix and YouTube is also in Dolby digital, very natural and crystal clear the ess Sabre pro9038
For music I don’t use eq, connect xlr stereo directly from Oppo straight to the xpa-1. Everything fits nicely.
Post by: wizardofoz on April 09, 2018, 14:26
Post by: sevenz on April 09, 2018, 19:44
Post by: Amon86 on May 03, 2018, 16:47
Post by: ngsk on May 04, 2018, 06:46
I had a question for any oppo 205 user here....as i upcoming will grab one oppo 205 would like to ask if there is any difference in sound quality if i use a normal hdmi cable from HDMI audio out vs a maybe a nordost heimdall 2 hdmi as i heard from some hk audiophiles for audio hdmi there is difference but image not so anyone can clarify this?
If u are going to use hdmi for music you're no going to make use of the 205 dual 9038 pro dac chip,it's a waste IMO.For analog out the 205 is a step up form the 105.
Post by: ronildoq on May 04, 2018, 08:35
I had a question for any oppo 205 user here....as i upcoming will grab one oppo 205 would like to ask if there is any difference in sound quality if i use a normal hdmi cable from HDMI audio out vs a maybe a nordost heimdall 2 hdmi as i heard from some hk audiophiles for audio hdmi there is difference but image not so anyone can clarify this?
Yes it makes a difference. a decent built hdmi cable should suffice, those certified with 18gbps speed can do the job. Don’t need to spend so much for hdmi cable, the shorter the cable, the better. Blue jeans, airborg, chord all have decent quality built cables that can do the job, even the stock free cable from Oppo 205 is premium certified and can get the job done
If u r getting those fiber cable, or cable with redmere chips, u gotta becareful because the hdmi chip within the cable may not be as good, u need to know what chip they use. I would avoid the Monoprice ones. Didn’t have good experience with the Monoprice hdmi, it somehow altered the signal , the redmere chip inside, so no go for me on that brand.
I’m using the $12 Tera grand cable from amazon,not bad. For audio, still using the Aiborg hdmi 1.4 cable, I still find this cable good for its price tag
Analog out is the way to go for the Oppo 205 if u like music as mentioned by NGSK
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Post by: eggz on May 04, 2018, 09:21
Post by: Amon86 on May 04, 2018, 12:08
If u are going to use hdmi for music you're no going to make use of the 205 dual 9038 pro dac chip,it's a waste IMO.For analog out the 205 is a step up form the 105.
Ya I have been using Balance XLR out from my 105D for 2.1 channel concert bluray will sure used the same for 205 but for movies most probably will be using 205 hdmi audio out to marantz let marantz do the sound processing
Audio through HDMI is digitally encoded, it should make no difference to sound quality between cables.
Hmmm that i dunno but for USB B i tried normal USB B cable compare to a chord company basic B usb cable it does make a slight difference but noticeable....and is also 1 and 0 so I can't doubt digital really makes no differences
Post by: Amon86 on May 04, 2018, 17:17
(http://hifipig.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Clones_audio_oppo_psudp205_hifi_news_nov_2017_ol.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6otRfa0XfEE
Post by: Ccyao on May 05, 2018, 08:00
But I have a few questions / issues. Not sure if some can be resolved via the settings.
1) it doesn't play BDMV files like what my Apple TV and Popcorn Hour A500 do. It just drill into the folder/files. Is there any settings to play that?
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2) Occasionally, when I start to play a movie (MKV) via my NAS, there is no audio. I have to play a Bluray disc first and then switch back to have the audio played properly.
3) Noticed it takes much longer to buffer before starting to stream a movie from NAS compared to Apple tv and A500.
4) When I select Movies from the main menu, I can only see the BDM, which is the bluray disc. I remember seeing a video shared by ronildoq that he can select the network (or maybe hdd via USB?) from the Movies menu. For mine, I have to go to Network to see the files in My NAS. No big deal but just curious whether it is a setting.
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Post by: ngsk on May 05, 2018, 08:22
Post by: Ccyao on May 05, 2018, 08:28
For 1 0PP0 player can't play bdmv but there's a way to play search avs forum for it as I don't rip my bd to that. If your's is jb one don't understand also. For 2&3 try use wire connection or plug the hdd to the 203 usb port directly,my network is fiber 500mb one directly wire connected to the C7 also got buffer when using the C7 Dolby app to play dv demo clip. For 4 download the media control app to your phone n can select what u what to play with it.
Thanks Bro!
I’m already on LAN wired connection. I can stream almost instantly on Apple TV and A500 which are on the same network and LAN connection.
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Post by: ngsk on May 05, 2018, 08:32
Post by: Ccyao on May 05, 2018, 08:34
Just beware the 203 is not a streamer n the streamer pq is no where near the OPPO player than u will be happy with it.Ya. Understand that. If any of the issues can be resolved that would be a bonus to me.
Still very happy with it.
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Post by: ngsk on May 05, 2018, 08:48
Post by: Ccyao on May 05, 2018, 08:51
BDMV is still working on 20X player last I read on avs forum search the first pg of 103 or 105 player owner thread look for Unofficial BDP-103 FAQ on top in there look for How do you play Blu-ray ISO files over SMB?I'm not too sure actually. It auto detected my NAS when I go into Network.
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Post by: ngsk on May 05, 2018, 09:40
Post by: Ccyao on May 05, 2018, 09:46
Can't help as plug hdd into 205 directly n rip bd to mkv only,by the way saw u using Rythmik subs also.Yes. LVX12 x 2. Unfortunately, my room is too small. So front LR is the only position for me.
Anyway, I know nuts about REW. Ignorance is a blessing in my case, although I'm always very curious about how my setup fair.
Happy with them though.
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Post by: Ccyao on May 05, 2018, 18:29
Just got my Oppo 203 (JB version). Very happy with it!
But I have a few questions / issues. Not sure if some can be resolved via the settings.
1) it doesn't play BDMV files like what my Apple TV and Popcorn Hour A500 do. It just drill into the folder/files. Is there any settings to play that?
>> I am able to play BDMV and ISO files now, after changing to use NFS.
2) Occasionally, when I start to play a movie (MKV) via my NAS, there is no audio. I have to play a Bluray disc first and then switch back to have the audio played properly.
>> Need to monitor. So far, it only happened twice.
3) Noticed it takes much longer to buffer before starting to stream a movie from NAS compared to Apple tv and A500.
>> after changing to NFS, the buffering is significantly faster.
4) When I select Movies from the main menu, I can only see the BDM, which is the bluray disc. I remember seeing a video shared by ronildoq that he can select the network (or maybe hdd via USB?) from the Movies menu. For mine, I have to go to Network to see the files in My NAS. No big deal but just curious whether it is a setting.
>> Read the manual and it says only disc and USB will show up in the Movies option.
Now I have a new question.
Is there a way to add NAS folder to the Favourites?
Searched through the manual and internet but couldn’t find a way to do it.
Thanks
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Post by: Ccyao on May 06, 2018, 19:53
When I stream UHD HDR movies from my NAS, the brightness on the same scene was not consistent. It will go bright, dim, bright. Not obvious in action scenes. More obvious in scene which the background is not in motion, e.g. When 2 persons are talking.
So far I observed that in both Justice League and Sicario. No issue when I played the same file/scene (Sicario) on my Apple TV 4k.
Tried the following settings but does not resolve the problem.
Setting 1 :
HDR: Auto
Output Resolution : Auto
Setting 2 :
HDR: Auto
Output Resolution : Custom
Custom Resolution : tried UHD Auto and UHD 24Hz
I know a media player will be better for streaming. Unfortunately, Apple TV 4k plays HDR but can't decode Atmos and DTS-X. Popcorn Hour A500 decodes Atmos and DTS-X but can't play HDR.
I also have a small collection of UHD and non-4k Bluray disc. Hence, Oppo 203 seems to be the best option for me.
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Post by: ngsk on May 07, 2018, 06:48
Post by: Ccyao on May 08, 2018, 06:14
It seems to be caused by the subtitles.
When I switched off the subtitle, it seems OK. I can't figure out was it the TV or OPPO auto-adjusting the brightness.
I'm still extremely happy with the player. Should have got it earlier.
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Post by: ngsk on May 08, 2018, 07:47
Post by: Ccyao on May 08, 2018, 08:15
Did u accidentally on the energy saving mode on the C7? If so it might try to adjust brightness when switch from sdr to hdr.Energy saving mode is off.
It seems like the subtitle was too bright and the TV or OPPO was trying to adjust the brightness. It looks OK without subtitle. So may not be due to switching between SDR and HDR.
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Post by: ngsk on May 08, 2018, 10:21
Post by: Ccyao on May 08, 2018, 10:38
Will check my 205 & C7 hdr setting tonight n see what is miss out.Thanks bro!
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Post by: ngsk on May 08, 2018, 21:00
Using Technicolor expert mode for hdr source,only change the oled light to 50 from 100 according to lg set dynamic contrast to low enable active hdr disable contrast enhancement,for sdr source set to off,on 205 same as what I post early.
Post by: Ccyao on May 08, 2018, 22:31
My settings is the same as your except that I set oled light to 80. 50 seems a bit dim for me.
Will do more test on bluray and 4k bluray this coming weekend.
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Post by: ngsk on May 09, 2018, 07:12
Post by: Ccyao on May 09, 2018, 07:25
Will Google on this.
Thanks for sharing!
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Post by: ngsk on May 09, 2018, 07:46
Post by: Amon86 on May 25, 2018, 14:03
Post by: Audio on May 25, 2018, 14:36
Take some screen shots to share with us please.
(Audio)
Post by: Amon86 on May 25, 2018, 14:59
Are you using the Oppo to play or are you using an application in the win 10 computer to play? Did the timeline on your player move with the track time counter increasing?
Take some screen shots to share with us please.
(Audio)
I am using my oppo as a dac from my com so playing music from my com.....after work when i free i will retry connecting it and screenshot the problem....i can see my sound preferences the Oppo Dac have equalizer feed but no sound output
Thanks Audio
Post by: Tiktokape on May 25, 2018, 15:16
Post by: Amon86 on May 25, 2018, 15:22
Did you select Oppo's DAC input? Increase the volume in Oppo? Also, make sure the volume in Oppo is not set to 100/fixed. Do check your computer's audio output is pointed to Oppo DAC.
Yes I did select Oppo as default sound device....my oppo was set to 100.....i am using oppo as a dac so is connect by USB B to normal usb to com
Post by: ngsk on May 25, 2018, 16:21
Post by: Amon86 on May 25, 2018, 17:28
What he mean is have u select no.6.USB AUDIO IN using the input button on 205 remote,this will ensure u are connected to the usb type b input on the 205 from pc. Also make sure u set your vol. on 205 to variable n start at lower vol. eg. 30~40 to avoid damage your speaker or amp.
I see i shall go back try see if it works....thanks for the info
Post by: Amon86 on May 26, 2018, 10:04
Post by: trickle on June 10, 2018, 16:37
Really happy that I got this. Oppo’s recent firmware enables Sony TVs to read the Dolby Vision data from it.
Still discovering new things about this player. Mine has been working flawlessly since I got it.
Post by: ronildoq on June 11, 2018, 13:43
Release date: June 5, 2018.
Category: Latest Public Beta Test Release
Main Version: UDP20X-60-0601B
Added the Dolby Vision “Player-led processing” mode for compatibility with recent Sony Dolby Vision TVs and firmware updates.
Added the “Dolby Vision” mode under the HDR Setting menu, which allows the player to convert the output to Dolby Vision when possible.
Added the “Dolby Vision Processing” setting under the HDR Setting menu. This setting allows customers to choose whether Dolby Vision processing is handled mainly by the TV or the UDP-20x player.
Added MQA support via the USB DAC In for the UDP-205 players. (More info can be found in the “USB Audio DAC Firmware” section on the UDP-205 support page.)
Added the “Up-Sample DAC Input” setting under the Audio Processing menu for the UDP-205.
General fixes and disc compatibility improvements based on recent and upcoming UHD Blu-ray releases as well as user-submitted samples.
Post by: ngsk on June 12, 2018, 19:32
Post by: ngsk on June 24, 2018, 12:40
Post by: ngsk on June 25, 2018, 07:15
As I backup all my bd to mkv so don't need this,for the how to part one have to test them to see workable or not FYI only.
Post by: allfor4k on June 30, 2018, 19:20
No, I'm not using Sony TV.
Thanks
Post by: ngsk on June 30, 2018, 19:35
Post by: allfor4k on June 30, 2018, 19:40
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Post by: armoury on July 05, 2018, 16:18
For this version without the region-free mod, any idea if it is region-free for DVDs at least? I still have a region-free 105 anyway and not many non-A BDs, but a fair number of non-1 DVDs, so I could easily live without the ability to switch BD regions, but DVDs would be a little more annoying.
Highly subjective question: would the analog audio output on a 203 be better than my existing 105? One reason I got the 105 back in the day (rather than the cheaper 103) was to playback CDs, SACDs and DVD-As, on the rare occasions I bothered to.
Post by: ronildoq on July 05, 2018, 18:49
No idea how the 105 vs 203 analog is but I can assure u the 205 analog is miles ahead of the 203. Price is almost double.
We will be doing a shootout soon this month to compare 203 mod, vs 205 unmod, vs 205 mod. Will post our findings soon
Post by: armoury on July 05, 2018, 22:08
You can dl the hack on Oppo Australia website for 203 to play region free dvd. Just need to Google.
No idea how the 105 vs 203 analog is but I can assure u the 205 analog is miles ahead of the 203. Price is almost double.
We will be doing a shootout soon this month to compare 203 mod, vs 205 unmod, vs 205 mod. Will post our findings soon
Ah yes, I spotted that. The funny thing is there are people selling the disc on eBay, when you can D/L it yourself for free. What a ripoff...
Post by: StephenBishop on July 05, 2018, 23:11
Post by: ronildoq on July 09, 2018, 13:30
FYI,new official fw UDP20XTW-60-0625 is up at OPPO Taiwan website.
Has anyone tried this new firmware ? How is the Dolby vision tone mapping thingy?
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Post by: ronildoq on July 19, 2018, 14:35
Check out this Prometheus scene, audio and video is jaw dropping on this one using the analog out and OLED Dolby vision, blacks are superb and shadow details, , micro sound details , soundstage, imaging, clarity is all first class.... totally don’t need atmos to feel the rain from above you, very very very good scene!
Nice work again from Oppo
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LqsG42qDbXiyY1JxgF4Rs_kc2BgSozO0/view?usp=sharing
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Post by: jeffong on July 22, 2018, 18:20
Post by: ngsk on July 22, 2018, 19:38
Post by: bluepill193 on July 22, 2018, 20:24
Despite updating my 203 to the latest firmware, I still can't get Dolby Vision going on my OLED E6. It keeps enabling HDR10 only. Not sure what I'm doing wrong. Is it a bug?Tried playing Spider-Man 4k UHD, with the 203 set to player-led mode. Got jumbled images on my LG E6....
Post by: trickle on July 22, 2018, 21:41
Is it a software related thing on your E6?
Post by: bluepill193 on July 22, 2018, 23:36
Post by: ngsk on July 23, 2018, 07:59
Originally Posted by mdanderson View Post
After installing the latest beta firmware on my 205 I noticed a problem with the option regarding Dolby Vision. If I choose "player-led processing" the picture is really messed up and looks bad. If I choose "auto" which is the default it looks fine. Anyone else notice this? It is not really a big deal as long as one of the processing options works. Thanks. I have since installed the latest official firmware for the record.
Your LG is not compatible with Player-led. Use Auto (which will result in TV-led for your LG).
—Bob
This is what happen the guy have a C6 the one reply is a OPPO beta tester/expert on avs forum.
Post by: ronildoq on July 23, 2018, 08:27
Post by: Ccyao on July 23, 2018, 09:54
I Use tv led processing, ignore the player led processing,always better, so far the video card in the tv is much better, relieve the Oppo 205 of this processing duty, let the 205 work hard on producing the best audioMay I know how do you select which one to use? I'm using C7 and 203. Thanks
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Post by: dXter on July 23, 2018, 10:45
Post by: Doggie Howser on July 23, 2018, 11:46
TV led is for latest Dolby Vision profile for Sony XTreme processing TVs
Post by: ronildoq on July 23, 2018, 13:26
May I know how do you select which one to use? I'm using C7 and 203. Thanks
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Use tv led processing if u r on C7 LG, it doesn’t affect you, then under HDR settings, there is a new feature to turn on Dolby vision processing, what it does is it will up convert the normal bluray to Dolby vision mode whenever possible. The precalibrated factory default settings on the c7 for Dolby vision seems nicer than the normal cinema mode , when playing normal bluray content without any HDR metadata in it
Post by: ronildoq on July 23, 2018, 13:53
Please take note this only workable on disc base media blu-ray disc or 4k uhd disc not media file like mkv file etc.
Bro, seems to work on my bluray ripped in to .ts & .m2ts remux version....
Post by: bluepill193 on July 23, 2018, 14:29
Bro Ronildoq, is this setting on the tv, or on the OPPO?
Post by: ngsk on July 23, 2018, 14:41
Bro, seems to work on my bluray ripped in to MKV remux version....
Base on this link : http://watershade.net/wmcclain/UDP-203-faq.html it said:"It does not work for interlaced sources like DVD or for media files like MKV. In my testing it did not work for 3D Blu-ray.'' I haven't got time to test my blu-ray rip mkv file very busy with the new subs. Since u test n it work I'll delete my previous post.This link is a very good source for all OPPO 20X player owner for information.
Post by: ronildoq on July 23, 2018, 18:57
"then under HDR settings, there is a new feature to turn on Dolby vision processing, "
Bro Ronildoq, is this setting on the tv, or on the OPPO?
It’s on the Oppo that has firmware 0625 installed, check it out, nice
Post by: Ccyao on July 23, 2018, 19:05
Use tv led processing if u r on C7 LG, it doesn’t affect you, then under HDR settings, there is a new feature to turn on Dolby vision processing, what it does is it will up convert the normal bluray to Dolby vision mode whenever possible. The precalibrated factory default settings on the c7 for Dolby vision seems nicer than the normal cinema mode , when playing normal bluray content without any HDR metadata in itThanks bro!
Didn't notice there is a DV processing option.
Will check it out later.
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Post by: bluepill193 on July 23, 2018, 20:14
Post by: Ccyao on July 23, 2018, 20:43
Thanks bro!
Didn't notice there is a DV processing option.
Will check it out later.
Weird! I don't see the DV processing option when I played a normal bluray. Have checked that my TV is on the latest firmware.
May I know exactly where is it? Thanks
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Post by: ngsk on July 26, 2018, 08:01
Weird! I don't see the DV processing option when I played a normal bluray. Have checked that my TV is on the latest firmware.
May I know exactly where is it? Thanks
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Did u get it?All setting are @video setup setting on the OPPO under HDR setting set it to Dolby Vision.
Post by: Ccyao on July 26, 2018, 08:03
Did u get it?All setting are @video setup setting on the OPPO under HDR setting set it to Dolby Vision.Oh oh. I was looking for it in my C7
Thanks bro!
I didn't upgrade to the latest firmware because mine is the jailbreak version.
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Post by: ngsk on July 26, 2018, 08:12
Post by: ronildoq on July 26, 2018, 18:23
Oh oh. I was looking for it in my C7
Thanks bro!
I didn't upgrade to the latest firmware because mine is the jailbreak version.
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That is why I didn’t go for JB.... cos still have so many upgrades ,I stick to the remux MKV version, never been happier
Post by: ngsk on July 27, 2018, 10:52
That is why I didn’t go for JB.... cos still have so many upgrades ,I stick to the remux MKV version, never been happier
Yes,mkv is what I used to back up blu-ray as it skip all the warning/preview etc can select to keep 1 audio track n 1 subtitle save lots of space,directly play the movie when hit play save some time for that also.
So how is your 2.4 music listening impression with the 205/Seaton F18s n minidsp?
Post by: ronildoq on July 27, 2018, 14:00
Yes,mkv is what I used to back up blu-ray as it skip all the warning/preview etc can select to keep 1 audio track n 1 subtitle save lots of space,directly play the movie when hit play save some time for that also.
So how is your 2.4 music listening impression with the 205/Seaton F18s n minidsp?
all good bro, really enjoying now, Dirac Live, Oppo 205 Sabre Pro and the seatons... Finally settled down, quite happy with everything now.
Tomorrow having a shoot out session with some friends, we will be doing a shoot out on the Oppo Mod version vs non mod. Also shoot out some interconnect and Power cord, and if time permits, gonna shoot out the Flagship Plixir Power Conditioner vs the Ansuz Mainz D8 power cond... James Products very poisonous... Scary....
Post by: ngsk on July 27, 2018, 14:16
Post by: armoury on July 30, 2018, 15:11
Set is a Taiwan set, if u wanna upgrade your firmware, u need to download from Oppo Taiwan... reset it back to English if desired...
The Chinese sets gives buyers the options with firmware JB opportunity from other sources with an older firmware
I wonder: is it possible to install a firmware update from the US site rather than the Taiwan site? And is there any reason to do it that way?
Also: I tried to burn the "Oppo superdisc" to install DVD region-free a few times but it kept failing. To date I was thinking my old iMac's drive was at fault, but I just realised, since it's an ISO disc image, and I was trying to burn to CD-Rs (since the files are so small), is that why the burning failed and I have to burn to DVD-R? Since obviously a DVD disc image won't fit onto a CD-R, even if the data is miniscule...
Post by: ngsk on July 30, 2018, 16:33
As for the second question this link might help as u're mac user : https://www.wikihow.com/Burn-ISO-on-Mac
If u can find a window pc this link : https://www.oppodigital.com.au/pages/superdisc-unlock-your-oppo-bluray-player-for-all-dvd-regions
The sw use to create the disc must actually writing the data in the iso file to disc otherwise it's still a iso file copy to the disc which OPPO player don't support.
Post by: armoury on July 31, 2018, 01:00
Whew, was worrying a bit that a dodgy disc might brick the player...
Post by: Vinylfan on August 03, 2018, 19:37
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Post by: badbad2000 on August 04, 2018, 00:13
http://www.boa.hk/banner/online-shop/OS-BOA-UE-SERIES.html (http://www.boa.hk/banner/online-shop/OS-BOA-UE-SERIES.html)
https://unwire.hk/2018/03/07/oppo-boa-ue-series/wireless-home/audio-visual/ (https://unwire.hk/2018/03/07/oppo-boa-ue-series/wireless-home/audio-visual/)
Post by: Audiolab on August 04, 2018, 14:12
Post by: sevenz on August 04, 2018, 14:17
Actively looking for a 4K UHD player. Oppo highly regarded but super expensive. Is it really worth it? Can get by with a Sony or Samsung for comparable picture quality? I have an Oppo 105D that cost me an arm n leg. Have never tried other makes.
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Oppo is super. I moved from the mainstream brands to oppo.
But oppo is not continuing in the BD player business...sigh ..
Post by: Doggie Howser on August 04, 2018, 15:50
Post by: Audiolab on August 04, 2018, 21:51
For media file Playback better to buy regular media players that can support bitstream and H265 hdr material
Post by: Doggie Howser on August 05, 2018, 02:25
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Post by: ronildoq on August 05, 2018, 11:18
Does the 203 play h.265 codec movie files from a portable hard disk plug into the USB port of the 203?
Yes it does, it is able to pass through h265 to your avr, dtsx, atmos, Dolby vision, HDR no issues if your avr supports these features
Instead i find the UHD disc sometimes having playback issues, especially the newer disc, I suppose some compatibility issues. But Oppo support has been excellent, theyget down to the issue and fix it, so far they are still doing the job, despite the fact they have no intentions to continue the business
Post by: Doggie Howser on August 05, 2018, 12:05
Post by: Doggie Howser on August 05, 2018, 12:06
Yes it does, it is able to pass through h265 to your avr, dtsx, atmos, Dolby vision, HDR no issues if your avr supports these features
Instead i find the UHD disc sometimes having playback issues, especially the newer disc, I suppose some compatibility issues. But Oppo support has been excellent, theyget down to the issue and fix it, so far they are still doing the job, despite the fact they have no intentions to continue the business
Oh Ronil you don’t have an Atmos set up right?
Post by: Audiolab on August 05, 2018, 15:44
I do not need atmos or DTS
Sure. As long as you don’t mind not having Dolby Atmos or DTS X
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Post by: Audiolab on August 05, 2018, 15:45
How does Oppo solve playback issues on proper disc?
Yes it does, it is able to pass through h265 to your avr, dtsx, atmos, Dolby vision, HDR no issues if your avr supports these features
Instead i find the UHD disc sometimes having playback issues, especially the newer disc, I suppose some compatibility issues. But Oppo support has been excellent, theyget down to the issue and fix it, so far they are still doing the job, despite the fact they have no intentions to continue the business
Post by: ronildoq on August 06, 2018, 17:52
Thanks for sharing.
How does Oppo solve playback issues on proper disc?
I suppose they collect samples from various disc. They actually listen to consumers feedbacks
Normal disc so far so good, it is the UHD disc that sometimes have issues, newer ones especially, other than that, it’s excellent. Plays almost anything u throw at it....
What a pity this will be the end for Oppo bluray players... I was really hoping to see a 305 that does Atmos dtsx with Sabre 9038pro through analog out....
Post by: Audiolab on August 06, 2018, 17:56
So you cannot play the disc u need to wait for firmware upgrade to solve the problem??
I suppose they collect samples from various disc. They actually listen to consumers feedbacks
Normal disc so far so good, it is the UHD disc that sometimes have issues, newer ones especially, other than that, it’s excellent. Plays almost anything u throw at it....
What a pity this will be the end for Oppo bluray players... I was really hoping to see a 305 that does Atmos dtsx with Sabre 9038pro through analog out....
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Post by: ronildoq on August 06, 2018, 18:04
The main reason why I am getting the 203 is for the 4K disc. Hope most if not all the issues with 4K disc has been solved.
So you cannot play the disc u need to wait for firmware upgrade to solve the problem??
You can play the disc, but along the way, there are some issues in part of the scenes, then it skips, some of it u encounter floating blacks, like power ranger disc, then some of it dolby vision issue, fast furious disc, but these have mostly been solved on the new firmware....
With the latest firmware, so far all the disc playing good. I think we have a lot more UHD disc now. I also believe with every problem they face and the ability to solve it, will make it a better player. It is always the case, especially now it’s been around for more than a year, it has more or less stabilised
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Post by: Audiolab on August 06, 2018, 18:25
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Post by: ngsk on August 06, 2018, 19:55
I suppose they collect samples from various disc. They actually listen to consumers feedbacks
Normal disc so far so good, it is the UHD disc that sometimes have issues, newer ones especially, other than that, it’s excellent. Plays almost anything u throw at it....
What a pity this will be the end for Oppo bluray players... I was really hoping to see a 305 that does Atmos dtsx with Sabre 9038pro through analog out....
Yes so far all my 30+ 4k uhd discs play without problem.
OPPO tech support is top notch,last week just to double confirm I email their tech support
around 8am to ask about the correct sub level need to boost for analog output,they reply me within 2 hrs(same as I read on avsforum need the 10+5db boost),on the same email I bring up the traditional Chinese character support being broken,they said they're aware of this problem n is trying to get their engineers to address it,that few emails exchange all happen within 12hrs that day.I have email them in the past with some 105 problem n within that day they reply.With the 205 already so much better then the 105 if there's 1 more generation of OPPO player how much better it can be is beyond imagination.
Post by: CASH on August 07, 2018, 00:52
totally no support!!
Post by: ronildoq on August 07, 2018, 08:49
Base on this link : http://watershade.net/wmcclain/UDP-203-faq.html it said:"It does not work for interlaced sources like DVD or for media files like MKV. In my testing it did not work for 3D Blu-ray.'' I haven't got time to test my blu-ray rip mkv file very busy with the new subs. Since u test n it work I'll delete my previous post.This link is a very good source for all OPPO 20X player owner for information.
Bro, u r right, it doesn’t work for matroska mkv containers, but works when covenrted to .ts or .m2ts.
After few rounds of viewing, I still prefer the original mode in technicolor, the mode that i have calibrated with a meter.When Dolby vision kicks in without the metadata, it looks dull and pic seems out when watching 1080p content.
Same for HDR 10, I still prefer the original HDR10, calibrated version
Post by: ngsk on August 07, 2018, 09:25
Post by: YANG on August 07, 2018, 09:35
Post by: Vinylfan on August 07, 2018, 12:46
Currently the market hv only the Sony X700 as the competitor in the budget field... When PANASONIC's UB820 releases... it'll be interesting to see if OPPO's players will see a price drop or not!Wondering how the Panasonic will compare with Oppo 203, feature and PQ wise.
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Post by: InnocentBlood on September 02, 2018, 23:43
i neglected to check this before buying :-\
when i went to Oppo Taiwan site, everything is in chinese so can some kind soul post some instructions that will enable me to update the USB DAC firmware please?
do the instructions found on the Oppo US site work on the Taiwan player?
https://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-udp-205/blu-ray-udp-205-Support.aspx
thank you for any help that you can give me :)
Post by: CASH on September 02, 2018, 23:56
the oppo firmwares are stock...
so, if u want jailbreak, u not gonna be able to update till jailbreak software is out.
Post by: CASH on September 03, 2018, 00:02
jus flash the official firmware n u will be happy with your stock 205....
Post by: desray on September 03, 2018, 08:54
i bought a pre-loved 205 over the weekend. this is a local jailbroken set so it is from Taiwan. while the seller updated the player to the latest firmware UDP20X-60-0625, he did not update the USB DAC because he had no need for it.
i neglected to check this before buying :-\
when i went to Oppo Taiwan site, everything is in chinese so can some kind soul post some instructions that will enable me to update the USB DAC firmware please?
do the instructions found on the Oppo US site work on the Taiwan player?
https://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-udp-205/blu-ray-udp-205-Support.aspx (https://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-udp-205/blu-ray-udp-205-Support.aspx)
thank you for any help that you can give me :)
How did you come to the impression or conclusion that a JB Oppo player comes from Taiwan? Anyway if it is bought locally, then it comes with JB USB stick connected to the rear of the player itself.
Upgrading to the latest official firmware should not be an issue regardless of region...but it will cost you to "lose" the JB feature like BD ISO playback. Are you aware of it?
Anyway here's the translated version derived from the Chinese website on the firmware version which had been updated by the seller.
20系列韌體：UDP20XTW-60-0625 [ 20 series firmware: UDP20XTW-60-0625] 更新日期：2018年7月4日 [ Updated: July 4, 2018]
主版本：UDP20XTW-60-0625 [ Main version: UDP20XTW-60-0625]
機芯版本：TF0035 [ Movement version: TF0035]
MCU版本：MCU203-01-1118（UDP-203），MCU205-01-1220（UDP-205） [ MCU version: MCU203-01-1118 (UDP-203), MCU205-01-1220 (UDP-205)]
點擊下載 [ click to download]
特別說明： [ Special Note:]
對於韌體版本為UDP20XTW-42-0329或更早版本的用戶，請先安裝UDP20XTW-45-0605韌體，才可升級至UDP20XTW-60-0625最新版本韌體。 [ For users with firmware version UDP20XTW-42-0329 or earlier, please install UDP20XTW-45-0605 firmware before upgrading to the latest version of UDP20XTW-60-0625 firmware.]
與上次正式版UDP20XTW-56-0224韌體相比，本版本韌體主要進行了如下改進： [ Compared with the last official version of UDP20XTW-56-0224 firmware, this version of the firmware mainly improved as follows:]
1、新增了杜比視界“播放機主導”處理模式，以相容索尼杜比視界電視的韌體更新。 [ 1. Added Dolby Vision's 'player-led' processing mode to match the firmware update of Sony Dolby Vision TV.]
2、在HDR設定項新增了“杜比視界”模式，該模式允許播放機盡可能將輸出轉換為杜比視界。 [ 2. Added 'Dolby Vision' mode to the HDR settings, which allows the player to convert the output to Dolby Vision as much as possible.]
3、在HDR設定選單新增了“杜比視界處理”選項，此設定項允許用戶選擇由電視或播放機進行主處理。 [ 3. The “Dolby Vision Processing” option has been added to the HDR Settings menu. This setting allows the user to select the main processing by the TV or player.]
4、UDP-205播放機通過USB DAC輸入新增了對MQA的支持。 [ 4. The UDP-205 player has added support for MQA through the USB DAC input.]
5、在UDP-205的音訊處理選單下新增了“DAC輸入昇頻”設定。 [ 5. Added the “DAC Input Upsampling” setting under the UDP-205 audio processing menu.]
6、基於最近發佈和即將發佈的UHD藍光碟片以及用戶提交的樣本，做了通用的修復以及碟片相容性的改進。 [ 6. Based on the recently released and upcoming UHD Blu-ray discs and user-submitted samples, general fixes and disc compatibility improvements have been made.]
這一版本包含有以前版本的所有功能。 [ This version includes all the features of the previous version.]
Post by: InnocentBlood on September 03, 2018, 13:53
I am also happy to report that updating the USB DAC firmware did not defeat the jailbreak.
I do have an Egreat A10 that takes care of my downloaded media files. I need the jailbreak on the Oppo to play DVD and BD multi-region.
when I was doing my homework on the 205, I was told by the local authorised seller that there are two different types of jailbreak that you can get for the local sets that you buy in SG. what Desray mentioned is just one type - this is the one where you are pretty much locked-in to the firmware that comes pre-installed on the Oppo. the 2nd type - which is the one that I have - is the one that allows you to keep up with the official firmware updates but you have to sacrifice BD-ISO playback. since I have the A10, I decided to go for this one anyways.
with all due respect to Desray, I believe the instructions you posted are for updating the main firmware only - not the USB DAC. there are 2 separate update procedures for the main firmware and the USB DAC. the USB DAC update procedure requires you to run a tool that you can download from the Oppo US site.
thanks once again guys 😊👍
Post by: desray on September 03, 2018, 14:02
thanks Cash and Desray for sharing your opinion and especially to Desray for providing the translation. I can confirm that I was able to update the USB DAC firmware to version USB-0118. I followed the instructions which are posted here on the Oppo US site: https://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-udp-205/blu-ray-udp-205-Support.aspx
I am also happy to report that updating the USB DAC firmware did not defeat the jailbreak.
I do have an Egreat A10 that takes care of my downloaded media files. I need the jailbreak on the Oppo to play DVD and BD multi-region.
when I was doing my homework on the 205, I was told by the local authorised seller that there are two different types of jailbreak that you can get for the local sets that you buy in SG. what Desray mentioned is just one type - this is the one where you are pretty much locked-in to the firmware that comes pre-installed on the Oppo. the 2nd type - which is the one that I have - is the one that allows you to keep up with the official firmware updates but you have to sacrifice BD-ISO playback. since I have the A10, I decided to go for this one anyways.
with all due respect to Desray, I believe the instructions you posted are for updating the main firmware only - not the USB DAC. there are 2 separate update procedures for the main firmware and the USB DAC. the USB DAC update procedure requires you to run a tool that you can download from the Oppo US site.
thanks once again guys 😊👍
Glad got it all sorted out by yourself...
Enjoy!
Post by: ngsk on September 14, 2018, 07:04
http://archimago.blogspot.com/2018/06/measurements-oppo-udp-205-part-2.html
Since the Pioneer LX800 n the Panasonic UB9000 have some short come,if one going to get a good all rounded player get this 205 while still can.
Post by: YANG on September 14, 2018, 07:58
OPPO by right, should tone their price little low n stayed competitive in the market.
However, their decision to bow out in this business... Hmm... I say its a strategic move!!!
Post by: ngsk on September 18, 2018, 08:19
Objective measurements on the 205 plus some good read on how the digital filter work: http://archimago.blogspot.com/2018/06/measurements-oppo-udp-205-part-1-output.htmlPart 3 of the measurements can be found here: http://archimago.blogspot.com/2018/06/measurements-oppo-udp-205-part-3-jitter.html
http://archimago.blogspot.com/2018/06/measurements-oppo-udp-205-part-2.html
Post by: kelvinsin on September 24, 2018, 07:19
Came with ver60 jb too.
(https://preview.ibb.co/npoe6p/88761_B41_8_D66_416_E_B5_D3_FB1792_C03_B45.jpg)
(https://preview.ibb.co/jfaLCU/49_F24_C66_A69_C_4444_ACE8_E885_E5952420.jpg)(https://preview.ibb.co/dbAnsU/55_C2_B053_9_B13_4_F2_B_982_B_7_F7_DD5_DDE677.jpg)
(https://preview.ibb.co/fqQLCU/1_DF6_A084_269_C_4118_8_C14_22_C34_BC906_BE.jpg)
Post by: sanhas on September 24, 2018, 08:09
Post by: ronildoq on September 24, 2018, 09:01
Just got my Oppo 203, bought mod kit and self upgrade to LPS version, changed IEC to silver cable, changed fuse to power house alpha 8000. PQ and SQ (especially SQ) jumped to another level.
Came with ver60 jb too.
(https://preview.ibb.co/npoe6p/88761_B41_8_D66_416_E_B5_D3_FB1792_C03_B45.jpg)
(https://preview.ibb.co/jfaLCU/49_F24_C66_A69_C_4444_ACE8_E885_E5952420.jpg)(https://preview.ibb.co/dbAnsU/55_C2_B053_9_B13_4_F2_B_982_B_7_F7_DD5_DDE677.jpg)
(https://preview.ibb.co/fqQLCU/1_DF6_A084_269_C_4118_8_C14_22_C34_BC906_BE.jpg)
Is the improvement to another level on the analog connections or HDMi ?
I personally tested some modded versions, I didn’t find any significant improvement on the analog and hdmi out....in fact I found that the stock 205 is still miles ahead of the modified 203...
If u can see improvement in picture quality, then yes, you can confirm the mod is effective...the whole idea of the mod is to bring down noise level, when that happens, immediately you can tell from improvement in picture quality.
Another effective way is to Ensure using a good power conditioner, when the source of power feeding the equipment is clean and Low noise, there is a huge benefit down the chain, everything will shine...
I’d save the $$ on the mod, and go for a good solid power conditioner, just sharing my experience after experimenting works
Post by: kelvinsin on September 24, 2018, 11:01
Is the improvement to another level on the analog connections or HDMi ?As you can see the analogue is dismantle as the power circuit is fully supply the juice to digital boards. If not AB compare i can say difficult to notice thru bare eye but the SQ is much improved from ori version. The punch is solid and soundstage wider. BTW, directional of fuse also important as different placement orientation can give different sound performancd.
I personally tested some modded versions, I didn’t find any significant improvement on the analog and hdmi out....in fact I found that the stock 205 is still miles ahead of the modified 203...
If u can see improvement in picture quality, then yes, you can confirm the mod is effective...the whole idea of the mod is to bring down noise level, when that happens, immediately you can tell from improvement in picture quality.
Another effective way is to Ensure using a good power conditioner, when the source of power feeding the equipment is clean and Low noise, there is a huge benefit down the chain, everything will shine...
I’d save the $$ on the mod, and go for a good solid power conditioner, just sharing my experience after experimenting works
Post by: kelvinsin on September 24, 2018, 11:04
Power! Care to share where you bought all the stuffs? Also the jb.... what can it do? Thanks for sharing.Taobao a lot, different seller offering different LPS designs and package. Can pm me if you want my seller. For the 60 jb u will need the flash jig connect the set to flash the latest firmware.
Post by: BadEnglish on September 24, 2018, 13:35
...
I’d save the $$ on the mod, and go for a good solid power conditioner, just sharing my experience after experimenting works
He already have a decent power conditioner, so picture quality should improve a lot, so is audio thought HDMI.
Post by: ronildoq on September 24, 2018, 13:54
1.Stock 203
2.Modded 203
3.Stock 205
4.Modded 205
It was an interesting experience. Since i do not have an AVR, we could only test the Analog outs 7 channels. We played and repeated this track https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wwOdexepEhIKzOv8LPUwstjakpi3Hpcs/view?usp=sharing , few times until all of us were familiar with the sound. We then swap in 1 by 1, as per the sequence above. We all concluded 205 was way ahead in the analog section. Personally, i couldnt tell any difference between the modded and stock version. Im sure there is improvement, but i wasnt able to tell. These were all connected to an Ansuz D8 Power Distributor.
Then the "Real Magic" happened. We Plugged in a Power Conditioner, the Plixir Elite 3000. That changed all our views, immediately all of us could tell, improvement of 40% and beyond:
1. Much Improved picture Quality.
2. Much cleaner sound with details due to lower noise.
The improvement was huge, significant. Almost instantly everyone was smiling. This is only one Oppo 205 connecting to the Plixir. Imagine if all others like power amp, AVR etc, benefits are huge. Every single equipment benefit from this "Clean" power. We then tested other things like power cords, interconnect etc.
The conclusion from that shootout was, source of power is very very important. If the source of power is regulated, with ultra low impedance, the dynamics will improve, hence not only creating a clean and live sounding system, it also protects your equipment in the long run. I ended up investing in the Plixir Elite 3000
+1 to the Elite 3000 pairing with Oppo 205 stock analog
Post by: BadEnglish on September 24, 2018, 14:12
2 months ago we did a shoot out, to compare
1.Stock 203
2.Modded 203
3.Stock 205
4.Modded 205
It was an interesting experience. Since i do not have an AVR, we could only test the Analog outs 7 channels. We played and repeated this track https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wwOdexepEhIKzOv8LPUwstjakpi3Hpcs/view?usp=sharing , few times until all of us were familiar with the sound. We then swap in 1 by 1, as per the sequence above. We all concluded 205 was way ahead in the analog section. Personally, i couldnt tell any difference between the modded and stock version. Im sure there is improvement, but i wasnt able to tell. These were all connected to an Ansuz D8 Power Distributor.
Then the "Real Magic" happened. We Plugged in a Power Conditioner, the Plixir Elite 3000. That changed all our views, immediately all of us could tell, improvement of 40% and beyond:
1. Much Improved picture Quality.
2. Much cleaner sound with details due to lower noise.
The improvement was huge, significant. Almost instantly everyone was smiling. This is only one Oppo 205 connecting to the Plixir. Imagine if all others like power amp, AVR etc, benefits are huge. Every single equipment benefit from this "Clean" power. We then tested other things like power cords, interconnect etc.
The conclusion from that shootout was, source of power is very very important. If the source of power is regulated, with ultra low impedance, the dynamics will improve, hence not only creating a clean and live sounding system, it also protects your equipment in the long run. I ended up investing in the Plixir Elite 3000
+1 to the Elite 3000 pairing with Oppo 205 stock analog
If I may say : 203 vs 205 is not a fair comparison especially you are using analogue.
If you find power conditioner give you a very good yield, welcome to the club of never ending upgrading ;D
Have you tried furutech NCF IECs :D
Post by: ronildoq on September 24, 2018, 14:19
If I may say : 203 vs 205 is not a fair comparison especially you are using analogue.
If you find power conditioner give you a very good yield, welcome to the club of never ending upgrading ;D
Have you tried furutech NCF IECs :D
hahaha, already in the club man..... Superb Value for the dollar, every bit of it, especially the Plixir Elite 3000... If only i was introduced to this earlier. Its really worth in my opinion + its there to stay for years.
Yea it was not really a fair comparison, we knew the 205 was better, just how much, vs the mods. We were there to check out how much improvement it brought out, ie 10%, 50%, that was the whole idea of the shoot out, we wanted to justify the price to performance ratio...
Post by: kelvinsin on September 24, 2018, 18:53
2 months ago we did a shoot out, to compareJust realize you are using the weakest part of 203 compare with 205 strongest part - analogue. As you can seen i the mod is disconnect and disable the analogue circuit withdraw current from power board (some mod go this option some no), i choose this option becoz i no using analogue output at all. Compare hdmi 203 and 205 might a fairer game as both them sharing similar digital circuit.
1.Stock 203
2.Modded 203
3.Stock 205
4.Modded 205
It was an interesting experience. Since i do not have an AVR, we could only test the Analog outs 7 channels. We played and repeated this track https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wwOdexepEhIKzOv8LPUwstjakpi3Hpcs/view?usp=sharing , few times until all of us were familiar with the sound. We then swap in 1 by 1, as per the sequence above. We all concluded 205 was way ahead in the analog section. Personally, i couldnt tell any difference between the modded and stock version. Im sure there is improvement, but i wasnt able to tell. These were all connected to an Ansuz D8 Power Distributor.
Then the "Real Magic" happened. We Plugged in a Power Conditioner, the Plixir Elite 3000. That changed all our views, immediately all of us could tell, improvement of 40% and beyond:
1. Much Improved picture Quality.
2. Much cleaner sound with details due to lower noise.
The improvement was huge, significant. Almost instantly everyone was smiling. This is only one Oppo 205 connecting to the Plixir. Imagine if all others like power amp, AVR etc, benefits are huge. Every single equipment benefit from this "Clean" power. We then tested other things like power cords, interconnect etc.
The conclusion from that shootout was, source of power is very very important. If the source of power is regulated, with ultra low impedance, the dynamics will improve, hence not only creating a clean and live sounding system, it also protects your equipment in the long run. I ended up investing in the Plixir Elite 3000
+1 to the Elite 3000 pairing with Oppo 205 stock analog
Also the mod kit just $200, compare with plixir 3000 $4000, i think everyone know the outcome.haha... just enjoy what we can get with own budget bah.
Post by: Weichiun on September 30, 2018, 18:48
(https://preview.ibb.co/kT6ZMz/D2494_C91_5285_4777_B080_0_A051364_DC7_C.jpg)
(https://preview.ibb.co/mK28gz/601_E2_A28_97_C5_4_EED_98_BA_F7490_C66_F696.jpg)
(https://preview.ibb.co/eJWeoe/F58_D7_BB6_1_E20_4_C7_D_986_F_7_E1_BB9205491.jpg)
Post by: sevenz on September 30, 2018, 22:34
what would be worthy and potential candidates?
Read some posts here about the Panasonic UB820 and Pioneer LX800 that bros here have tried out
Post by: Ericsky on October 01, 2018, 01:47
as oppo is no longer making new BD players, i'm making advance plans for replacements for my 203.
what would be worthy and potential candidates?
Read some posts here about the Panasonic UB820 and Pioneer LX800 that bros here have tried out
Another alternative for Oppo UDP 203 is Cambridge Audio CXUHD.
https://www.whathifi.com/cambridge-audio/cxuhd/review
https://www.avforums.com/review/cambridge-audio-cxuhd-4k-ultra-hd-blu-ray-player-review.14103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHV7q5sJ4bI
Post by: ngsk on October 01, 2018, 07:09
Go to the last 2 pgs.
Post by: Doggie Howser on October 01, 2018, 16:31
For me it depends on what your use is.
For video playback of UHD discs - Panasonic UB820 - the 9000 is overkill and doesn’t do universal disc playback (unlike Oppo). The Panasonic is particularly useful if you want Dolby Vision and HDR10+ support - And it also has a damn advanced tone mapping feature for low luminance projectors.
For universal disc playback (SACD/DVDA) Pioneer LX500. I am not looking forward to the Sabre based LX800.
Have not found a suitable player for the Roon/MQA network streaming functionality on the 205 yet. But my bet is on something like the Teac NT505 with AKM4497 chipset.
Post by: Sound Affairs on October 02, 2018, 09:38
Our absolute last batch of OPPO 203 / 205 have arrived. After this batch is sold, there will be no more from us for new OPPO. So if you wish to get the OPPO player, this will be the absolute last chance!
Note that although we have secured good level of stock for OPPO UDP-203, UDP-205 and SONICA DAC, which we forecast will be sufficient throughout 2018, the purchase rate has been higher than expected since THE ANNOUNCEMENT. Once our stock levels are depleted we are sad to say the Iconic player will be gone forever. Our message to customer is : Get them while you can.
If you wish for credit card payment, this is now available too.
Please read this thread on the OPPO sales for more details. http://www.xtremeplace.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=277170.msg1280717#msg1280717
Or contact us for more infos.
Thank you for the support.
James Soh.
Post by: crazysurfer on October 06, 2018, 19:06
Just got my Oppo 203, bought mod kit and self upgrade to LPS version, changed IEC to silver cable, changed fuse to power house alpha 8000. PQ and SQ (especially SQ) jumped to another level.
Came with ver60 jb too.
(https://preview.ibb.co/npoe6p/88761_B41_8_D66_416_E_B5_D3_FB1792_C03_B45.jpg)
(https://preview.ibb.co/jfaLCU/49_F24_C66_A69_C_4444_ACE8_E885_E5952420.jpg)(https://preview.ibb.co/dbAnsU/55_C2_B053_9_B13_4_F2_B_982_B_7_F7_DD5_DDE677.jpg)
(https://preview.ibb.co/fqQLCU/1_DF6_A084_269_C_4118_8_C14_22_C34_BC906_BE.jpg)
Thanks to bro Kelvinsin, this hardware upgrade really does bring the 203 performanace up to the next level compared to the stock PSU.
For those who are just using the Digital Section of the 203 and not the analogue, suggest you give this upgrade a go, it's a no brainer and worth every cent of it. It really give the 203 a turbo charge performance, especially in the audio section.
Great job Kelvinsin and thanks again for your help and assistance rendered.
Really need to re-watch all my disc all over again to truely enjoy what it is all about now. :D
Looking forward to more great stuff from you again.
Post by: kelvinsin on October 07, 2018, 12:47
Thanks to bro Kelvinsin, this hardware upgrade really does bring the 203 performanace up to the next level compared to the stock PSU.Wow thanks bro for the positive feedback, glad you enjoy the improvement. Actually there is another cheaper mod version with analogue output available, but if possible, this without analogue output version is best for user who dont use this function. In fact, i doubt why need this analgoue output since most of the user has dedicated avr with better dac.
For those who are just using the Digital Section of the 203 and not the analogue, suggest you give this upgrade a go, it's a no brainer and worth every cent of it. It really give the 203 a turbo charge performance, especially in the audio section.
Great job Kelvinsin and thanks again for your help and assistance rendered.
Really need to re-watch all my disc all over again to truely enjoy what it is all about now. :D
Looking forward to more great stuff from you again.
(https://preview.ibb.co/fWvQR9/FC0_E8484_CD8_F_430_D_A82_D_E27_BF8_E2_F9_E0.jpg)
Post by: crazysurfer on October 07, 2018, 13:14
Wow thanks bro for the positive feedback, glad you enjoy the improvement. Actually there is another cheaper mod version with analogue output available, but if possible, this without analogue output version is best for user who dont use this function. In fact, i doubt why need this analgoue output since most of the user has dedicated avr with better dac.
(https://preview.ibb.co/fWvQR9/FC0_E8484_CD8_F_430_D_A82_D_E27_BF8_E2_F9_E0.jpg)
Agreed, I personally prefer this than to have the analogue, which is redundant for me and do not optimise the usage for my purpose at all.
Post by: Sound Affairs on November 29, 2018, 09:22
Thank you for the support. OPPO 203 are all sold out.
Also low stock levels on OPPO 205. We are running a promotion here for the OPPO 205 :
http://www.xtremeplace.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=279502.msg1289256;topicseen#new
Thank you once again for the support of OPPO.
James Soh
Post by: ngsk on January 03, 2019, 07:48
The major feature is the adding of hdr10+ support. As for Taiwan model not out yet,just checked.
Release Notes:
This release is for the OPPO UDP-20x 4K UHD Blu-ray Disc Player.
Comparing to the current Official release version UDP20X-60-0625, the major changes included in this version are:
1.Added the HDR10+ support. A HDR10+ enabled TV is required to view content in HDR10+.
2.Added the "HDMI IN BYPASS" mode for Dolby Vision passthrough via HDMI In.
3.General fixes and disc compatibility improvements based on recent and upcoming UHD Blu-ray releases as well as user-submitted samples.
Post by: Doggie Howser on January 03, 2019, 08:13
I really like the Panasonic 820’s video processing but it doesn’t have HDMI input so I can’t do the same processing from my Zappiti media player’s HDR output.
Post by: sje4182 on January 03, 2019, 08:18
I just recently got hold of an old OPPO 93. My first OPPO and i really like it. I especially like the flush buttons on the fascia which completely blends into the front metal plate. I think the newer models don't have this.
Anyway, just wanted to raise a small concern. When i picked up the player after the player was in use for about an hour, the player case was very warm! Esepcially the right side (when facing the player). The underneath was very hot (the kind where it's like when you touch a hot pan and recoil back in reflex). Even my Emotiva XPA 2 doesn't get near this hot! My other blu ray players were never even warm when in use.
I have since put some USB fan coolers over the case of the player but thought i should ask with OPPO experts whether this is normal?
Post by: Audiolab on January 03, 2019, 08:59
Sorry, hope i am not considered OT-ing (mod, please feel free to remove if so).
I just recently got hold of an old OPPO 93. My first OPPO and i really like it. I especially like the flush buttons on the fascia which completely blends into the front metal plate. I think the newer models don't have this.
Anyway, just wanted to raise a small concern. When i picked up the player after the player was in use for about an hour, the player case was very warm! Esepcially the right side (when facing the player). The underneath was very hot (the kind where it's like when you touch a hot pan and recoil back in reflex). Even my Emotiva XPA 2 doesn't get near this hot! My other blu ray players were never even warm when in use.
I have since put some USB fan coolers over the case of the player but thought i should ask with OPPO experts whether this is normal?
Post by: YANG on January 03, 2019, 09:06
I wonder if they could implement something like Panasonic’s HDR optimizer in a firmware update.I tried to look through the operation manual from the european side, the display settings is not very elaborated.
I really like the Panasonic 820’s video processing but it doesn’t have HDMI input so I can’t do the same processing from my Zappiti media player’s HDR output.
Does the player hv a setting to output in 21:9 like UB9000 do?
Post by: Doggie Howser on January 03, 2019, 09:18
I tried to look through the operation manual from the european side, the display settings is not very elaborated.
Does the player hv a setting to output in 21:9 like UB9000 do?
Don’t know. Never tried a 21:9 before.
I’ve been told video processing is identical
Post by: sje4182 on January 03, 2019, 10:35
I do not own the 93. However my experience with 103 and 203 is that they run pretty cool. I have run them non stop for more than 2 days during run in and they are just slight warm to the touch.
Thanks! Now i am a bit concerned :(
Post by: Audio on January 03, 2019, 10:41
Thanks! Now i am a bit concerned :(
Nothing to be concerned about. How many years had this 93 had survived at this temperature? It is still working now, isn't it?
(Audio)
Post by: sje4182 on January 03, 2019, 11:56
Nothing to be concerned about. How many years had this 93 had survived at this temperature? It is still working now, isn't it?
(Audio)
Well i got it from someone who rarely used it (the set is practically new) and even when he did he usually connected external storage devices and not play from disc.
Post by: Audiolab on January 03, 2019, 13:18
Well i got it from someone who rarely used it (the set is practically new) and even when he did he usually connected external storage devices and not play from disc.
Post by: pcking on January 03, 2019, 13:43
Playback for a while and determine which part or component is generating the heat.
Anyway, just wanted to raise a small concern. When i picked up the player after the player was in use for about an hour, the player case was very warm! Esepcially the right side (when facing the player). The underneath was very hot (the kind where it's like when you touch a hot pan and recoil back in reflex). Even my Emotiva XPA 2 doesn't get near this hot! My other blu ray players were never even warm when in use.
I have since put some USB fan coolers over the case of the player but thought i should ask with OPPO experts whether this is normal?
Post by: Audio on January 03, 2019, 14:03
If you are concern, in the first place, you shouldn't be buying a pre-owned unit. You shouldn't be buying concerns and worries into your life.
(Audio)
Post by: sje4182 on January 03, 2019, 14:21
Took a look at the internals and the PSU is on the left side when looking at the front of the player. So not sure why you feel the heat is on the right side. If the heat is not really extreme, just leave it alone. Else pop the cover and check if anything is amiss.
Playback for a while and determine which part or component is generating the heat.
Yep, will just leave it alone. Was just checking if this is a common issue.
Thanks!
Post by: Djblackfm on January 12, 2019, 18:53
My oppo 203 remote suddenly cannot work. So I follow the steps below & everything was working again.
Remove the batteries from the remote control:
1. Press and hold the POWER button on the remote control for 3 seconds. Release.
2. Press and hold the SOURCE button on the remote control for 3 seconds. Release.
3. Repeat until all the buttons on the remote control have been pressed and held, individually, for 3 seconds each.
4. Replace the batteries with new ones (note: we do not recommend using Lithium batteries with the OPPO Remote).
5. Rotate the batteries in their compartment to ensure proper contact with the metal leads.
6. Change the dip switch at the bottom of the battery compartment to II or III.
7. Press the OPEN button on the front panel of the player so the tray ejects.
8. Aim the remote control at the front panel of the player and press and hold the ENTER button on the remote for 5 seconds.
9. The front panel should show CODE 2 or CODE 3.
Post by: desray on January 12, 2019, 19:08
Hi all,
My oppo 203 remote suddenly cannot work. So I follow the steps below & everything was working again.
Remove the batteries from the remote control:
1. Press and hold the POWER button on the remote control for 3 seconds. Release.
2. Press and hold the SOURCE button on the remote control for 3 seconds. Release.
3. Repeat until all the buttons on the remote control have been pressed and held, individually, for 3 seconds each.
4. Replace the batteries with new ones (note: we do not recommend using Lithium batteries with the OPPO Remote).
5. Rotate the batteries in their compartment to ensure proper contact with the metal leads.
6. Change the dip switch at the bottom of the battery compartment to II or III.
7. Press the OPEN button on the front panel of the player so the tray ejects.
8. Aim the remote control at the front panel of the player and press and hold the ENTER button on the remote for 5 seconds.
9. The front panel should show CODE 2 or CODE 3.
Yes, sometimes it does that...just changed dip switch from one code to another and go to the settings on the player accordingly.
Post by: ronildoq on January 13, 2019, 14:27
Hi all,
My oppo 203 remote suddenly cannot work. So I follow the steps below & everything was working again.
Remove the batteries from the remote control:
1. Press and hold the POWER button on the remote control for 3 seconds. Release.
2. Press and hold the SOURCE button on the remote control for 3 seconds. Release.
3. Repeat until all the buttons on the remote control have been pressed and held, individually, for 3 seconds each.
4. Replace the batteries with new ones (note: we do not recommend using Lithium batteries with the OPPO Remote).
5. Rotate the batteries in their compartment to ensure proper contact with the metal leads.
6. Change the dip switch at the bottom of the battery compartment to II or III.
7. Press the OPEN button on the front panel of the player so the tray ejects.
8. Aim the remote control at the front panel of the player and press and hold the ENTER button on the remote for 5 seconds.
9. The front panel should show CODE 2 or CODE 3.
Wah so many steps... thanks for sharing, I’m sure it’s useful for someone out there who might need it
Post by: Djblackfm on February 09, 2019, 11:30
A new official firmware for UDP-20x has just been released.
Major features in 65-0131 include "HDMI IN BYPASS" mode for Dolby Vision passthrough via HDMI In.
For a full list of updates and bug fixes in this firmware, and for instructions on how to update your player, please click on the link below:
https://oppodigital.com/blu-ray-udp-203/UDP203-firmware-65-0131.aspx
(Please note, this firmware version is for UDP-20x players sold in North America. The same firmware for other regions will be available shortly.)
Post by: Hero on March 03, 2019, 21:02
The original batteries that came with my 203 just started leaking. Luckily i caught it in time. Managed to save my remote after opening it up and wiping off the corrosive liquid immediately from the circuit board ;D
Post by: ronildoq on March 03, 2019, 21:36
Hey for those who own the 205 and 203, do change out ur original remote batteries asap!
The original batteries that came with my 203 just started leaking. Luckily i caught it in time. Managed to save my remote after opening it up and wiping off the corrosive liquid immediately from the circuit board ;D
Hero, use rechargeable batteries for all your important remote controls. Wont have to worry about this issue. Thats what i do
Post by: Hero on March 03, 2019, 22:01
Hero, use rechargeable batteries for all your important remote controls. Wont have to worry about this issue. Thats what i do
Good idea bro Ronil. I have not encountered rechargeable batteries that leak on me before :)
Post by: ronildoq on March 03, 2019, 22:05
Good idea bro Ronil. I have not encountered rechargeable batteries that leak on me before :)
;)
Post by: wizardofoz on March 03, 2019, 23:23
Post by: rayleh on March 03, 2019, 23:28
Post by: Ericsky on March 04, 2019, 11:02
https://www.panasonic.com/global/consumer/battery/primary_batteries/technologies.html
Post by: Audiolab on March 04, 2019, 11:09
Post by: rayleh on March 04, 2019, 13:00
Post by: ronildoq on March 04, 2019, 13:32
So far my experience with Energizer has no leak issues. Had leak issues with Duracell.
A lot of fake energizer batteries also nowadays. i would avoid that. for expensive equipment and their remote, use rechargeable batteries, no worries with rechargeable batteries
Post by: Hero on March 04, 2019, 13:42
I will now either use rechargeable batteries or those cheap and light ones, like those sony batteries sold for $1 for a pack of 4.
Pls replace the original batteries that were supplied with ur 205 and 203 asap to avoid what happened to mine.
Post by: Doggie Howser on March 04, 2019, 13:43
Haven’t lost a single remote since.
But I do notice that with remotes that have backlight, the rechargeables last even shorter than normal. Or not light up particularly bright.
Post by: rayleh on March 04, 2019, 14:26
I too have switched to rechargeables for many years.
Haven’t lost a single remote since.
But I do notice that with remotes that have backlight, the rechargeables last even shorter than normal. Or not light up particularly bright.
I bought tons of rechargeable batteries to constantly change them when they are drained out. The batteries in my Harmony remote usually only last for a month.
Post by: wizardofoz on March 04, 2019, 18:20
Post by: ngsk on March 09, 2019, 21:15
Post by: crazysurfer on March 10, 2019, 01:47
New FW UDP20XTW-65-0131 out on OPPO Digital Taiwan website : http://www.oppodigital.com.tw/support.php?tab_id=1
What does this firmware include, HDR10+ upgrade?
Post by: desray on March 10, 2019, 07:21
What does this firmware include, HDR10+ upgrade?
There is a possibility that this update may include HDR10+ since Oppo is also one of the participating brands backing HDR10+.
Funny how the 2 major players all exited the Blu-ray player market even before HDR10+ rolled out. Samsung at least going to implement HDR10+ in their flagship phones.
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Post by: ngsk on March 10, 2019, 07:53
What does this firmware include, HDR10+ upgrade?
Yes according to report @avsforum OPPO UDP 205 thread although it didn't indicated,it's in the beta FW also. The main features of this update are added HDR10+ & Dolby Vision pass through on HDMI input on the 20x player.
Post by: desray on March 10, 2019, 07:56
Yes according to report @avsforum OPPO UDP 205 thread although it didn't indicated,it's in the beta FW also. The main features of this update are added HDR10+ & Dolby Vision pass through on HDMI input on the 20x player.
Now just need to wait for more 4K titles that mastered in HDR10+ to take advantage of it. There is currently one or 2 titles but not movies iirc.
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Post by: crazysurfer on March 10, 2019, 11:50
There is a possibility that this update may include HDR10+ since Oppo is also one of the participating brands backing HDR10+.
Funny how the 2 major players all exited the Blu-ray player market even before HDR10+ rolled out. Samsung at least going to implement HDR10+ in their flagship phones.
Yes according to report @avsforum OPPO UDP 205 thread although it didn't indicated,it's in the beta FW also. The main features of this update are added HDR10+ & Dolby Vision pass through on HDMI input on the 20x player.
Thanks bro Des & ngsk. Really looking forward to it.
Anyone tried updating it and face any issues and what are the improvements, if any?
Also any advice on how to update the unit bought from James @ Sound Affairs using a thumb drive, since their unit have the network update feature disabled?
Thanks for any advice given.
Post by: bluepill193 on March 10, 2019, 12:09
Post by: desray on March 10, 2019, 12:10
Thanks bro Des & ngsk. Really looking forward to it.
Anyone tried updating it and face any issues and what are the improvements, if any?
Also any advice on how to update the unit bought from James @ Sound Affairs using a thumb drive, since their unit have the network update feature disabled?
Thanks for any advice given.
Oh...I didn’t know Sound Affairs Oppo players disabled the Network update? I guess probably to prevent user from accidentally updating the latest firmware and render the jailbreak firmware broken.
Anyway, there is still another way to do the update which you already pointed out - i.e. to use the USB update by uploading the .bin file into the root folder of a USB thumb drive to perform the update.
Take note, I no longer have Oppo player in my arsenal. Sold off my Oppo 203 a long long time ago. And I’m kind of regret it but life goes on.
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Post by: crazysurfer on March 10, 2019, 12:25
Oh...I didn’t know Sound Affairs Oppo players disabled the Network update? I guess probably to prevent user from accidentally updating the latest firmware and render the jailbreak firmware broken.
Anyway, there is still another way to do the update which you already pointed out - i.e. to use the USB update by uploading the .bin file into the root folder of a USB thumb drive to perform the update.
Take note, I no longer have Oppo player in my arsenal. Sold off my Oppo 203 a long long time ago. And I’m kind of regret it but life goes on.
Thanks bro des again for the prompt advice.
Unfortunately, being a noob in IT, I am not familiar on how to use a usb thumb drive to download a file from the web and then to the Oppo and I worry any wrong move will render my Oppo setting inop so dare not try & error on this and will appreciate anybody familiar to guide me to do that? Tried reading the Oppo Manual but don't think I can grasp its entirety though.
Post by: kelvinsin on March 10, 2019, 13:26
Thanks bro des again for the prompt advice.SA not disabled the network update, just they not recommend to do so else the latest firmware will overwrite the jailbreak and become stock firmware set. Just either use usb or network to upgrade if u wan latest firmware. Its quite easy and straight forward.
Unfortunately, being a noob in IT, I am not familiar on how to use a usb thumb drive to download a file from the web and then to the Oppo and I worry any wrong move will render my Oppo setting inop so dare not try & error on this and will appreciate anybody familiar to guide me to do that? Tried reading the Oppo Manual but don't think I can grasp its entirety though.
Post by: crazysurfer on March 10, 2019, 14:32
SA not disabled the network update, just they not recommend to do so else the latest firmware will overwrite the jailbreak and become stock firmware set. Just either use usb or network to upgrade if u wan latest firmware. Its quite easy and straight forward.
Bro Kelvinsin, it's confirmed network upgrading has been disabled for the latest batch of Oppo with -625 firmware. I'd tried and it's confirmed disabled and also verified by James and mentioned in the manuel, as well.
So anyone tried using the thumb drive to update, can let me know how to go about it and any issues faced?
Any help and advice will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
Post by: kelvinsin on March 10, 2019, 18:19
Had you read this?
Post by: ngsk on March 10, 2019, 20:08
Bro Kelvinsin, it's confirmed network upgrading has been disabled for the latest batch of Oppo with -625 firmware. I'd tried and it's confirmed disabled and also verified by James and mentioned in the manuel, as well.
So anyone tried using the thumb drive to update, can let me know how to go about it and any issues faced?
Any help and advice will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
Bro,FYI local bought 20x series player from SA are Taiwan set can only download FW from the link I posted with usb update only. Those 203 bought from the ex-dealer are USA set download FW from the link kelvinsin post.
On that Taiwan link click on this: 20系列韌體：UDP20XTW-65-0131
The FW will be downloaded as a .bin file,copy to a thumb drive plug into the 20x usb port click ok on the pop up ask new FW found whether to update n done liao.
Post by: crazysurfer on March 11, 2019, 00:09
Bro,FYI local bought 20x series player from SA are Taiwan set can only download FW from the link I posted with usb update only. Those 203 bought from the ex-dealer are USA set download FW from the link kelvinsin post.
On that Taiwan link click on this: 20系列韌體：UDP20XTW-65-0131
The FW will be downloaded as a .bin file,copy to a thumb drive plug into the 20x usb port click ok on the pop up ask new FW found whether to update n done liao.
Thanks ngsk, done that and it worked but don't see any difference leh, other than the firmware version changed, all other details remained the same leh.
Is this correct or should I expect to see some new features added to the menu selection or some visible improvement in performance?
Post by: desray on March 11, 2019, 07:08
Thanks ngsk, done that and it worked but don't see any difference leh, other than the firmware version changed, all other details remained the same leh.
Is this correct or should I expect to see some new features added to the menu selection or some visible improvement in performance?
Info is all there...just need to read in its entirety. Not much change.
Comparing to the previous Official release version UDP20X-60-0625, the major changes included in this version are:
1. Added the "HDMI IN BYPASS" mode for Dolby Vision passthrough via HDMI In.
2. General fixes and disc compatibility improvements based on recent and upcoming UHD Blu-ray releases as well as user-submitted samples.
Post by: ngsk on March 11, 2019, 08:01
特別說明：
對於韌體版本為UDP20XTW-42-0329或更早版本的用戶，請先安裝UDP20XTW-45-0605韌體，才可升級至UDP20XTW-65-0131最新版本韌體。
與上次正式版UDP20XTW-60-0625韌體相比，本版本韌體主要進行了如下改進：
1、新增了HDR 10+功能（電視和碟片都需支持HDR 10+）。
2、新增了HDMI IN BYPASS功能。
3、解决了Paramount公司迴響“Grease:Live”碟片播放不同步問題。
4、解决了與三星電視的ARC不相容性問題。
5、解决了4K轉1080P後荧幕左邊出現綠線的問題。
6、解决了205碟機在播放MQA CD，讀碟的譟音變大問題。
7、解决了個別M4a檔案播放出現audio drop問題。
8、基於近期和即將發佈的UHD藍光碟片以及用戶提交的樣本做相容性改進。
1. is added HDR10+ support,2. is added bypass for Dolby Vision on hdmi input.
Post by: ronildoq on March 11, 2019, 08:41
Bro,FYI local bought 20x series player from SA are Taiwan set can only download FW from the link I posted with usb update only. Those 203 bought from the ex-dealer are USA set download FW from the link kelvinsin post.
On that Taiwan link click on this: 20系列韌體：UDP20XTW-65-0131
The FW will be downloaded as a .bin file,copy to a thumb drive plug into the 20x usb port click ok on the pop up ask new FW found whether to update n done liao.
+1, it’s that simple actually.
Ps : take not that after every firmware update, you would want to erase persistent storage and reset the player to factory default. This step is important as it helps with many reported post firmware update issues
I’m still on June 18 0625 version. Very stable and no issues. Haven’t moved on to the 2019 update that allows HDR10+ pass through . It’s better to wait and see if there is any reported issue before the update, once updated, it cannot be downgraded to previous version
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Post by: bluepill193 on March 11, 2019, 10:27
Post by: ronildoq on April 04, 2019, 14:19
Just saw this on amazon today, got a shock ! Close to $4k
But it’s the best UHD player for me....No turning back
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Post by: sevenz on April 04, 2019, 15:39
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Just saw this on amazon today, got a shock ! Close to $4k
But it’s the best UHD player for me....No turning back
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agreed. To me it's the best too.
but sigh.... too bad oppo stopped BD player line
So after oppo 20x, I wonder which BD player brand and model we can move to... Mmmm...
Post by: crazysurfer on April 04, 2019, 18:08
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Just saw this on amazon today, got a shock ! Close to $4k
But it’s the best UHD player for me....No turning back
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Post by: ronildoq on April 04, 2019, 18:11
The analog 7.1 out with Sabre pro 9038 is TOP notch quality. Too bad no Atmos.
FYI
The Oppo 205 analog, I tested the vocals and dynamic range and found that it is better than the Lyngdorf when both are neutral non EQ. AB comparison plug out plug in same scene
None of the avr in the market can beat this Oppo 205 for 7.1 when it comes to dynamic range, clarity and details
The Sabre dac 9038 is too good , that’s my finding so far. Very good for those just using 7.1
Post by: Andreasgursky on April 04, 2019, 19:53
Haha, don’t worry so much about the future, enjoy what we have now! I’ve been enjoying the quality of the Oppo 20* for almost 2 years now, first from 203 and then 205. It’s the best in terms of sound quality and not bad for its video. Very stable, plays anything u throw at it
The analog 7.1 out with Sabre pro 9038 is TOP notch quality. Too bad no Atmos.
FYI
The Oppo 205 analog, I tested the vocals and dynamic range and found that it is better than the Lyngdorf when both are neutral non EQ. AB comparison plug out plug in same scene
None of the avr in the market can beat this Oppo 205 for 7.1 when it comes to dynamic range, clarity and details
The Sabre dac 9038 is too good , that’s my finding so far. Very good for those just using 7.1
Hi bro ! Would you sacrifice dynamic range / details / clarity for atmos, dtsx etc when using a player for movies ? Ie. Would you rather use the OPPO 205 or AVR Eg. Denon 8500 for movies
Post by: YANG on April 05, 2019, 01:06
Pioneer is just too costly to start。
Post by: ngsk on April 05, 2019, 08:14
Another thing is u need a preamp for this player n the Pioneer 1 as they don't have volume control like the OPPO 20X player.
Post by: ronildoq on April 05, 2019, 08:56
Hi bro ! Would you sacrifice dynamic range / details / clarity for atmos, dtsx etc when using a player for movies ? Ie. Would you rather use the OPPO 205 or AVR Eg. Denon 8500 for movies
Here is my take after experiencing with Onkyo rz5100 (Atmos) to Oppo 205 7.1 analog(non Atmos) to Lyngdorf Mp50 (Atmos)
When I was on Onkyo, the clarity and dynamic range was way far apart that I’d rather have 7.1 than the Atmos. I was on that for some time. I found that a good sounding 7.1 is far more satisfying than average Atmos. Despite the Onkyo having the upper hand playing a good source file from Atmos and DTSx, it was nowhere near the analog 7.1 of the oppp, even the Denon 6200 I had. It was a pretty clear choice to go with the Oppo 205. Both were used in conjunction with Dirac live ddrc88a EQ
Enter lyngdorf with Atmos and it’s a different ball game. Several levels up. The strengths of the lyngdorf lies in the room EQ software called Room Perfect. This is one of the best room EQ software as of now. What it does is it handles every speakers (including Atmos) very well with the subwoofers, blending in the time domain. This is something the Oppo cannot do. Suddenly the entire soundstage is so immersive and clean sounding that the subtle dynamic range the Oppo has over the lyngdorf is not being missed. The thousands of first reflections are being managed nicely by the EQ programme in the time domain, as a result, every speakers seem to be decaying at the right rate.... fading off slowly, retaining the liveliness. The room modes are eliminated and u actually start hearing the speakers and not the room. The dtsx and Atmos soundtrack gives the lyngdorf a head start now. Overall immersive experience improves significantly over the 7.1 clear sounding Oppo 205.
That’s my experience so far. So it really depends on the avr or processor u use.
Atmos is good to have, but u must remember, the more speaker you introduce in the chain, the more problems you would have to solve, so it’s not easy because 7.1 is easier to manage, unless u have good room EQ or manual Optimisation work
I’ve no experience with Denon 8500 so can’t really advice.
Post by: desray on April 05, 2019, 09:08
if Panasonic UHD player can jailbreak or modifyable。。。that can take the throne from OPPO perhaps。。。
Pioneer is just too costly to start。
I signed up as contributor to that site to get my hands on the enhanced (JB) firmware for my Panny UB-420 and its almost 1 week now and no sound no picture from the team.
Post by: Andreasgursky on April 09, 2019, 11:49
Here is my take after experiencing with Onkyo rz5100 (Atmos) to Oppo 205 7.1 analog(non Atmos) to Lyngdorf Mp50 (Atmos)Thanks bro for the clear and detailed feedback !
When I was on Onkyo, the clarity and dynamic range was way far apart that I’d rather have 7.1 than the Atmos. I was on that for some time. I found that a good sounding 7.1 is far more satisfying than average Atmos. Despite the Onkyo having the upper hand playing a good source file from Atmos and DTSx, it was nowhere near the analog 7.1 of the oppp, even the Denon 6200 I had. It was a pretty clear choice to go with the Oppo 205. Both were used in conjunction with Dirac live ddrc88a EQ
Enter lyngdorf with Atmos and it’s a different ball game. Several levels up. The strengths of the lyngdorf lies in the room EQ software called Room Perfect. This is one of the best room EQ software as of now. What it does is it handles every speakers (including Atmos) very well with the subwoofers, blending in the time domain. This is something the Oppo cannot do. Suddenly the entire soundstage is so immersive and clean sounding that the subtle dynamic range the Oppo has over the lyngdorf is not being missed. The thousands of first reflections are being managed nicely by the EQ programme in the time domain, as a result, every speakers seem to be decaying at the right rate.... fading off slowly, retaining the liveliness. The room modes are eliminated and u actually start hearing the speakers and not the room. The dtsx and Atmos soundtrack gives the lyngdorf a head start now. Overall immersive experience improves significantly over the 7.1 clear sounding Oppo 205.
That’s my experience so far. So it really depends on the avr or processor u use.
Atmos is good to have, but u must remember, the more speaker you introduce in the chain, the more problems you would have to solve, so it’s not easy because 7.1 is easier to manage, unless u have good room EQ or manual Optimisation work
I’ve no experience with Denon 8500 so can’t really advice.
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Post by: ronildoq on May 04, 2019, 14:07
So far my experience with Energizer has no leak issues. Had leak issues with Duracell.
See the leak on Energizer alkaline , luckily it’s non important stuff, it’s just automatic dustbin that uses battery
Nowadays so many fake Energizer batteries
Luckily not using any of these for the remote
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Post by: Audiolab on May 04, 2019, 15:28
I guess I am the lucky one. I only buy energizer from proper shops and since Amazon was in Singapore, through Amazon. I always check expiry date. No issue so far.
See the leak on Energizer alkaline , luckily it’s non important stuff, it’s just automatic dustbin that uses battery
Nowadays so many fake Energizer batteries
Luckily not using any of these for the remote
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Post by: ronildoq on May 04, 2019, 19:25
Just curious, your comments on fake energizier batteries. So you are suspecting your energizer is fake and that’s why leak?
I guess I am the lucky one. I only buy energizer from proper shops and since Amazon was in Singapore, through Amazon. I always check expiry date. No issue so far.
Yea, bought it from some “value dollar “ shop, think it’s made in Vietnam. So the suspicion, true enough, managed to spot one case
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Post by: Audiolab on May 04, 2019, 19:28
Post by: kelvinsin on May 04, 2019, 19:32
https://www.energizer.com/about-batteries/no-leaks-guaranteeGood to know that. I used GP on 203 controller had same issue too. Will try energizer since has guarantee!
Post by: ronildoq on May 31, 2019, 20:53
Tried, tested, works ! Solid stuff from divini
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Highly recommended !
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Post by: kingajit on May 31, 2019, 21:03
Post by: ronildoq on May 31, 2019, 21:07
Agree i am using these too!
Awesome ! So far I have not heard a single person say doesn’t work!
Post by: Audiolab on May 31, 2019, 21:10
Post by: ngsk on May 31, 2019, 22:04