Is this the entry level model, like the BDP-103, and are there other upcoming models?IMHO, there will always be more models in future, but the first is the KISS model - keep it simple, safe and make sure it works well.
Still no word on 3D and DVDA/SACD?It will playback DVDA/SACD, as well as 3D discs
It will playback DVDA/SACD, as well as 3D discsBut no Dolby Vision?
come on guys, for discussion on hardware, not for indication of MO interest. ;)+1
https://www.facebook.com/SLT-Technologies-735282653252059/Tempting....any indication on local price?
https://www.facebook.com/OPPOdigitalsg/
It's coming :)
If pre order is only allow at isse, then we already lose $15.
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9xx, but for the show I think there will be a special price.
Plus a free disc too :)
Delivery by year end.
can check this pre order unit is region free?or will have region free hacks later?
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Hi,You can pre-order at show, or just PM us, up to you. Delivery sometime in December, as soon as they're shipped out. For free 4K disc, we are still deciding, will announce once decided.
How to pre-order? Must be at the show? What's the free 4K disc title? Estimated delivery is which date of Dec?
What is the specification for this UDP?Will be published soon on Oppo official website
1+. I am interested but much see the sepc first especially the DAC chip.AKM AK4458VN DAC chip: (http://www.akm.com/akm/en/product/datasheet1/?partno=AK4458VN)
Haven't received any news on my preorder
It's here :)Come with free disc?
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Width between footers:
13 inches.
As for the free disc, please read the details on the MO thread. No free disc will come with the first batch - they are rushing to give us our players, and the discs aren't here yet.
Did workaround that works:
HDMI main connected to TV, and HDMI Audio only connected to AVR.
You lose on screen, but that seems to be ok.
There's NO prescribed cable, your current high speed cables <5m should all work.
For longer lengths, there is not as much info on the maximum lengths, as HDCP 2.2, HDMI 2.0b etc are all quite new.
Is it because the AVR does not support HDCP 2.2?Nope - I have a SR 7010.
FYI, the set comes DVD code free out of the box :)
How about HDMI cable? what (min) version is needed for less than 10m ?
Width between footers:
13 inches.
As for the free disc, please read the details on the MO thread. No free disc will come with the first batch - they are rushing to give us our players, and the discs aren't here yet.
I will be getting later tonight.
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U should get a 18gbps HDMI cable....
As long as it's rated to reach that speed n bandwidth, your cable will be certified as 4K capable..
Look for the "Premium" seal..
I recently changed all my HDMI cables to this "premium" seal ones..
The 10gbps HDMI cables might not give u the speed n bandwidth needed...
Still not Blu-Ray Region Free yet?That's a feature, which you pay for when details are out later on. See the MO thread for details, cheers.
I will be getting later tonight.I'm expecting mine due to my office in a while just without the foc 4k BR - Mad Max.
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FOC disc can wait later, I bought a few during recent BF ;D
Busy day for SLT guy
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That was fast...Hey bro
Hey bro
Catch up over a session, I have some leave year end.. we do a little HT session.. cheers
Need to borrow some 4K UHD discs for testing...anyone?Sure bro, I have a few, you can collect from me, queensway area cheers.
Need to borrow some 4K UHD discs for testing...anyone?desray: I have X-Men Apocalyse, Star Trek Beyond and Batman v Superman - Dawn of Justice. Let me know if you want to borrow.
Hi . Tiktokape. Any PQ or SQ different in between 101 and 203 when playing normal BR or concert? Thanks.Unfortunately I find my Oppo 101Ci to excel in normal BR probably due to fact I mod the player on the digital end - black levels are much better so I can't comment vs a pure vanilla unit.
Hope someone can share if they have successfully used the Oppo with a SR 7010 and a FHD plasma... cheersReply from Oppo:
The standard package with the UDP203 should come with 1.8m HDMI Premium with Ethernet right?
http://www.avbuzz.com/audio-video/201612/oppo-203-open-b/
Don't get too complicated over which premium hdmi cables for your newly bought Oppo 203.
Straight forward is make sure it support HDCP 2.2, in general all current high speed hdmi cables should be certified for that.
I'm using AmazonBasics HDMI cables for my entire HT setup ranging from 3F to 10F. Cheap and good if you ask me.
AmazonBasics High-Speed HDMI Cable - 3 Feet (2-Pack) (Latest Standard) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B014I8SP4W/ (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B014I8SP4W/)
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Reply from Oppo:
"The issue right now is that the player is seeing the HDCP 2.2 of the receiver but not the older HDCP of the television, so it is trying to handshake HDCP 2.2 only. So in the interim, while we investigate this issue, you will need to use the player with HDMI (MAIN) to the television and HDMI (SUB) to the receiver for audio.
is it the exact same height as the 101CI?Much slimmer, so it can fit into smaller spaces. But do give it some space as there's no internal fan.
Wait til you see the biggest real highlight of the 4k bluray, HDR!!!!!!
Just checking, does anyone encounter below grey screen if you were to 'play and stop' videos repeatedly from shared (DLNA/ SMB) network?
I encountered this as I cannot remember the episode of Drama I was watching thus needing to 'play and stop' videos repeatedly.
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To get to Oppo menu, sometime I just need to change resolution to 1080Auto and change back to Custom using the remote.
Other times, need to off or off/ on AVR. then menu appears.
Is this what they call 'handshake issues'?
I'm able to play UHD BRdisc at 4K60, 4:4:4 at 8bits with HDR without issues.
Could this be 'initial/ unstable firmware' of the Oppo or do I need to get 'Certified' Premium HDMI cables.
*But the up-scaled to 4K on a 720 video is awesome*
For me, it's a simple solution....
Jus get the "Premium HDMI Cables"
The extra bandwidth n certification by that orange sticker on the packaging box, will give me piece of mind..
As it's officially certified to give out all that is required...
;D
Encountered a harrowing experience while trying to setup the Oppo earlier. Initially, I had it connected to my Denon X7200WA and after powering up, the Oppo pretty much hung upon starting up. Powering on and off the Oppo and the Denon did not rectify the problem nor did the changing of HDMI cables or HDMI port connections on the Denon. Even swapping the same HDMI cable back and forth with the Samsung 4K player (No playback issues with the Sammy) did not help. Finally decided to connect the Oppo directly to my OLED TV and finally it started to behave properly. Not sure what is causing the issues but I have initiated the firmware update on the Oppo and the Denon and going to retry the AVR connections tomorrow again. Not a good outcome while trying to setup a new toy past midnight. :(
Encountered a harrowing experience while trying to setup the Oppo earlier. Initially, I had it connected to my Denon X7200WA and after powering up, the Oppo pretty much hung upon starting up. Powering on and off the Oppo and the Denon did not rectify the problem nor did the changing of HDMI cables or HDMI port connections on the Denon. Even swapping the same HDMI cable back and forth with the Samsung 4K player (No playback issues with the Sammy) did not help. Finally decided to connect the Oppo directly to my OLED TV and finally it started to behave properly. Not sure what is causing the issues but I have initiated the firmware update on the Oppo and the Denon and going to retry the AVR connections tomorrow again. Not a good outcome while trying to setup a new toy past midnight. :(
Can be a myriad of issues here. HDMI handshake does produce this "snowy" anomalies. BUT having say that, if you are able to watch at "certain resolution", then it may not really be an handshake issue per se. Connect the HDMI direct to the display instead of the AVR and try to execute the same thing and see if it is the display or with the issue with the AVR passing through or the doing of up-conversion (imperfect resolution or frequency selected) caused by the AVR in the video chain. When it comes to video and HDMI, the only way to investigate is through elimination.
For me, it's a simple solution....
Jus get the "Premium HDMI Cables"
The extra bandwidth n certification by that orange sticker on the packaging box, will give me piece of mind..
As it's officially certified to give out all that is required...
;D
Encountered a harrowing experience while trying to setup the Oppo earlier. Initially, I had it connected to my Denon X7200WA and after powering up, the Oppo pretty much hung upon starting up. Powering on and off the Oppo and the Denon did not rectify the problem nor did the changing of HDMI cables or HDMI port connections on the Denon. Even swapping the same HDMI cable back and forth with the Samsung 4K player (No playback issues with the Sammy) did not help. Finally decided to connect the Oppo directly to my OLED TV and finally it started to behave properly. Not sure what is causing the issues but I have initiated the firmware update on the Oppo and the Denon and going to retry the AVR connections tomorrow again. Not a good outcome while trying to setup a new toy past midnight. :(
+1
yes i have got the Tera Grand HDMI 2.0B Premium Certified cable from Amazon as well. Not too expensive and it gives you the Peace of Mind, rather than having to plug it in and out and second guessing which equipment is having issue. As for Monoprice, somehow the quality of the redmere HDMI 2.0 is not better than an Aiborg HDMI 1.4. So ive left that option out and went for the tera grand instead.... You have already spent $900 for UHD player, $20 for the certified cable for peace of mind makes sense to me...
https://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-udp-205/Wow. Audiophile rejoice!!!
TADAAAAAAaaaa
UDP205
Guys, Oppo 203 Question.
Any perceived benefits of having video out direct to tv vide HDMI and audio to receiver vide second HDMI, VS 1 cable in to AVR and AVR out to TV for both audio and video. This is my first bluray player, havent really tested the difference. I read somewhere that the first is preferred since there is less interference, something like that. No issues with connectivity, just wanted to know if that connection is better.
When i had the denon 4520, the IP Scaler function was inferior compared to the TV Graphics. Connecting it direct to the TV yielded better image quality. I switch off the IP scaler on the denon. But the newer Denon 6200 has better graphics.
Has anyone done a comparison between the two connection methods?
A direct connection also misses out on the OSD..
https://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-udp-205/The price could be double if you compare the price wigh 103 and 105.
TADAAAAAAaaaa
UDP205
The price could be double if you compare the price wigh 103 and 105
Quite a few owners in AVS have posted that there are issues like
stutter
freezing
inability to play UHD discs
I wonder if anyone locally has had any issues?
I have tried region B and A disc, no problem. Its region free. No Such issues with the Oppo 203 pete, no freezing, no stutter, all the UHD disc playing flawlessly so far. I have watched 5 movies all good. In fact some remux mkv files on NAS couldnt play on popcorn but could play on oppo. Good stuff.Are you saying you tried UHD discs or you tried REGION A & B BR discs and found it to be region free? The latter will be very interesting.. the former is moot since UHD discs are not region coded..
UHD disc, it's written as region A and B. Both works. Not sure why they still need to classify region A / B if it's region free.That's because there's a BR disc included in current boxes.
Currently the stripped HDR is not forced, if the display is not HDR compatible, it would down convert to BT.709. Had a reply from oppo, in the future the stripped HDR would be forced BT.2020.
Quite a few owners in AVS have posted that there are issues likeWatched the free Mad Max Fury Road last night.
stutter
freezing
inability to play UHD discs
I wonder if anyone locally has had any issues?
Are you saying you tried UHD discs or you tried REGION A & B BR discs and found it to be region free? The latter will be very interesting.. the former is moot since UHD discs are not region coded..
desray, oppo meant in a future firmware for the 203, not in general. Currently some display's hdmi cannot be upgraded to 2.0a but supports WCG, so the 203 cannot sent BT.2020 without HDR forced on.
Pete, now i recall, i was comparing the normal bluray of Man of Steel vs Atmos version. The normal bluray is Region B, it could Playback, no issues. The Oppo 203 plays Region A & B bluraydisc! No hacks and software mods! Give it a try it works!I assume you bought your disc from UK?
Bros
I can't play bro Desray's last demo disc off a USB on the 203, anyone else having this issue?
That's because you don't have the jailbreak firmware installed for you to playback full BD ISO/BDMV file structure.Hmm.. I didn't need that for the other Oppos I owned.. not keen on adding new FW, so I will put up with this defect for now, cheers.
Not really a defect...it's like saying sacd doesn't play out the digital coax/optical ports. It's because that's the way it's been designed and implemented, for whatever reasons, rights management, etc.
Anyway I'm sure a legitimate Jb will along soon enough and and when it is I hope to be the first to know.
Pete that's why I said you need to burn it to disk...I just didn't have any disks only could pass you on USB. Didn't realize you thought ISO playback was still on the table for non jb Oppo's these days....the old days of that gone long ago iircNot really mate..
Not really mate..
This same demo played fine in the 101.
So it's a regression as far as I am concerned..
I'm keeping close tabs on the jb through my contacts as well...yes it's close. But like most jb's now being external USB based its going mean you will have to disable updates for normal firmware and you will likely have to play catchup like everyone does with iPhones...such is being on the fringe ??? also not something one can reverse, probably won't help those who really want a well supported player firmware release updated unit but I guess jb is not for everyone, just those with special needs like ISO playback etc
Not really mate..
This same demo played fine in the 101.
So it's a regression as far as I am concerned..
Pete, u just need a different form of medium to play it - that is a Blu-ray Disc (BD-R) for it play on the UDP-203. Get Ken to help you with this, perhaps?Thanks I am sure there are workarounds, but it's a step backwards. BTW Ken can't burn anymore - will lend him one of my burners if he needs one..
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http://oppodigital.com/blu-ray-udp-203/UDP203-firmware-33-1229B.aspx (http://oppodigital.com/blu-ray-udp-203/UDP203-firmware-33-1229B.aspx)
USA FW:
(I don't know if it works with our players)
Category: Latest Public Beta Test Release
Main Version: UDP20X-33-1229B
Loader Version: TF0027
MCU Version: MCU203-01-1118
Resolved an issue where the Home Menu was fixed to a 60 Hz frame rate.
Resolved an HDCP 2.2 failure when connecting to an HDCP 2.2 receiver and an older, non-HDCP 2.2 display.
Resolved a black screen issue with certain UHD titles after resuming playback.
Improved a micro-stuttering issue when outputting UHD, BD, and DVD titles at 24 Hz.
Resolved an SACD playback issue where the player would immediately return to the Home Menu.
Optimized disc loader performance for better disc compatibility and spin speed control.
Resolved an issue where the player could not recognize music files when using Serviio server.
Resolved an issue where the RS-232 command #SRC would not work on the UDP-203.
Pressing and holding the Resolution button on the remote for three seconds will reset the player’s Output Resolution, HDR, Color Space, and Color Depth settings to factory defaults.
Improved the gapless playback feature for audio files.
The Home Menu now supports a wrap-around function.
Improved the over-saturation of colors when using the experimental Strip Metadata feature. Please note that the black level is temporarily fixed to a very low level when enabling the Strip Metadata feature.
I gotten the jailbreak firmware for my Oppo UDP-203 and I can confirm that BD ISO/BDMV file structure worked fine after the flash. CAUTION: DO NOT update the latest Beta firmware after you've flashed your player with the JB firmware lest lose the "added features" of the JB firmware.
I think SLT will release the JB firmware soon. Hang on tight for those looking to get it for playback of your BD ISO collection. ;)
which br movie title bro?
and wat timestamp did the br movie freeze?
if i have that same movie on br, i will test it out to share..
not many want to share any findings..
all jus read and absorb n crawl back into their little holes....
Watched the free Mad Max Fury Road last night.
1st 2 Chapters has the shutter..
Audio /video sync slowly develops until chapter 8 which is too obvious til I had to gohead and goestan one chapter to 're-sync' so the lipsync will go back to normal.
After the movie ends, I ejected the disc, the unit hangs. No response on remote control. Had to hold power button to force shutdown. Restart and close disc tray and shutdown again..
never once did my Onkyo(AKA Pioneer RZ3100) trip when i was using my Oppo 103D...
Guys, I have notified SLT of the "playback bug" for the normal bluray titles...He will update Oppo developer team. I guess we just need to wait for the next firmware release. Fingers crossed.
the onkyo n lg tv came back on after powering them back on again..
within a few seconds..
anyway, my set is going in for testing at the labs for a week..
hope the bug or whatever thats causing it can be rectified..
cheers!
Thanks Des! Just got a call from SLT, they will drop by my place to verify the playback issue and copy the log files for Oppo HQ to troubleshoot the issue. Great service from SLT i must say.
Hopefully Oppo is then able to zoom in to the problem and fix it with the next firmware upgrade.
Good to hear about the feedback.. I have stutters, freezes etc.. so I keenly await an official FW update..U no try public beta see if it solves your problem..
U no try public beta see if it solves your problem..Not fond of beta stuff... my Oppo 83 Nuforce has been updated twice and works well. I understand that the 203 is a work in progress, so I rather sit back and wait until the issues are sorted. IT & PCs are not my strong suite... cheers
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Not fond of beta stuff... my Oppo 83 Nuforce has been updated twice and works well. I understand that the 203 is a work in progress, so I rather sit back and wait until the issues are sorted. IT & PCs are not my strong suite... cheersYah. Quite true. I don't like to use beta too. But since is my 1st Oppo. So I try try play around. Wanna see how the FW upgrade works and how long does the process takes.. hopefully they release the official FW soon.
The pana at all times in use no matter the discs played has been faultless... no drop outs...no freezes... no reboots, no crashes no lock ups. With the oppo on the other hand...can be infuriating ... there are times with the oppo will get through a disc...and others like the shallows uhd with its continuous audio drop outs...at some times ...and then will just play through at others....the times when was trying to play the good fellas uhd where it kept freezing at the same point and then going back to the start of the disc... till eventually it would just play through and continue to play through at other times have checked it...this aspect of the oppo is very frustrating .. where can now sit there wondering when it would start mis behaving... and the pana by contrast is such a relief where can just watch a movie and enjoy...
Audio wise
With audio bit streaming off both players... I have not found ANY difference audio wise. and neither there should be. this is putting aside the audio drop outs of the oppo. and talking about sound quality here. Obviously the versatility of the oppo is there as a universal disc player and it does a wonderfull job with sacd and DVDA ...great to hear these discs again...however wiht a black mark of a audio drop out on the very lovely Steely dan gaucho DVDA that decided to have a drop out to interrupt enjoying it.
Some conclusions
The oppo looks a lovely made player, solid in construction and with its conventional build it is perfect a player in sense for a system such as mine. With a player of its calibre and also in its capability with not only video and disc capability but also in multichannel audio. However it is badly let down in use. Frustrating infuriating when it interrupts the listening and viewing experience with its bugs and issues. I've been an early adopter of DVD, HD-DVD, Blu-ray owning first of players in all these formats and while have put up with some aspects of their first release as players its a first for me to own a player such as this in the oppo where its issues actually is so interfering in what should be enjoying music and movies. So while the pana was a very reluctant purchase for me... and perhaps while not a perfect fit in form or capabilites (lacking multichannel ability) - where the pana wins big time is on two fronts...that it works and works seamlessly that it doesnt get in the way of the experience ...instead lets you enjoy it...and immensely with the picture qualtiy its capable off.
So on that note I said good bye to the oppo today. I returned it to a retailer I bought from and is the first item I returned to that retailer in the 30 years of dealing with them ! Thank goodness have retailer like that, that are supportive in taking it back. Its a relief for me moving on form the oppo. And will enjoy the pana for what it is. The oppo will re visit perhaps in 6 months time, its just not ready for prime time right now. perhaps they rushed it to market. Perhaps too many firsts for them. Perhaps oppo will get over the kind of issues they have with this player, not just the bugs but also improve the picture side of things to bring on par with the pana. I'd love them to get there ... as for sure I would love to have the oppo back in my system and have it do all the things I hope it will....
I gotten the jailbreak firmware for my Oppo UDP-203 and I can confirm that BD ISO/BDMV file structure worked fine after the flash. CAUTION: DO NOT update the latest Beta firmware after you've flashed your player with the JB firmware lest lose the "added features" of the JB firmware.
I think SLT will release the JB firmware soon. Hang on tight for those looking to get it for playback of your BD ISO collection. ;)
New firmware just released yesterday: http://oppodigital.com/blu-ray-udp-203/UDP203-firmware-33-1229.aspx (http://oppodigital.com/blu-ray-udp-203/UDP203-firmware-33-1229.aspx)The new FW has fixed some of the issues for me:
Changelogs at a glance...
Resolved an issue where the Home Menu was fixed to a 60 Hz frame rate.
Resolved an HDCP 2.2 failure when connecting to an HDCP 2.2 receiver and an older, non-HDCP 2.2 display.
Resolved a black screen issue with certain UHD titles after resuming playback.
Improved a micro-stuttering issue when outputting UHD, BD, and DVD titles at 24 Hz.
Resolved an SACD playback issue where the player would immediately return to the Home Menu.
Optimized disc loader performance for better disc compatibility and spin speed control.
Resolved an issue where the player could not recognize music files when using Serviio server.
Resolved an issue where the RS-232 command #SRC would not work on the UDP-203.
Pressing and holding the Resolution button on the remote for three seconds will reset the player’s Output Resolution, HDR, Color Space, and Color Depth settings to factory defaults.
Improved the gapless playback feature for audio files.
The Home Menu now supports a wrap-around function.
Improved the over-saturation of colors when using the experimental Strip Metadata feature. Please note that the black level is temporarily fixed to a very low level when enabling the Strip Metadata feature.
All features of the previous firmware are also included in this version.
Thanks to SLT for the update... ;)
There is scope to tweak the picture using Oppo’s DARBEE image processing system, but it’s not subtle enough to make any useful improvements. We’d stick to fine-tuning your TV or projector’s picture when needed.
Read more at http://www.whathifi.com/oppo/udp-203/review#m6LGQRd1Yc2OmP1s.99
Can anybody please guide me on how to obtain the jb firmware for the 203. I have it on my 103D and I cannot live without it ;D since all of my movies are in ISO format. Any help would be greatly appreciated :)Firstly where and who you purchased your 203 from?
Firstly where and who you purchased your 203 from?Crutchfield USA. Has anyone tried the one from BD-MOD?
Crutchfield USA. Has anyone tried the one from BD-MOD?Can share whats the price you paid including shipping/gst/exchange rate to reach here?
I don't think it can be fixed by firmware update..
the whole transport assembly will have to be replaced..
balancing is not firm..
that's y the disc gets uprooted to sit at the back of the machine.
I think bro Samkay is from USA bro...Yes USA. Has anyone tried the jb from BD-MOD ?
Might be a spin down timer issue that its not stopped spinning before it opens and spins out of the tray...that could be fixed in firmware...but Ive not seen anyone else mention this issue.+1
I guess wait n see what happens in the places where the 203 is being discussed.
Bro Cash..I hope to resolve my JB issues soon
Touchwood...so far lucky no encounter on stuck disc..
But very happi...Bro Kelvinsin recommended me JB firmware..of course muz pay $$ but still worth.
Reason, even u dnt use bootleg disc...DL materials also kena..which irritates many bros here...
Don't hv a solution for the disc stuck problem, maybe to open up the cover of the 203, see whether can find any eject button behind the BD drive itself...juz a thought ;D ;D
Samkay, read the oppo 103 thread.. all details there n who to contact for jb firmware.Thank you.
Public Beta UDP20X-38-0215B is out.
https://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-udp-203/UDP203-firmware-38-0215B.aspx
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i skip the beta firmwares, they are betas because it is not fully ready, still in testing phase. Best wait for the official version.The Public Beta's are actually release candidates, the Beta testing has already been done and these are the final test to make sure it works like it should.
i skip the beta firmwares, they are betas because it is not fully ready, still in testing phase. Best wait for the official version.I'm a 1st time Oppo BR player owner.
Hi everybody.
Just want to let all the UDP-203 owners that I'm using the jb firmware from BD-MOD and it works great! I now have full ISO and BD folder support and cinavia is also fixed. Only issue I'm having is that I'm stuck with version 1209 as 1229 is not working yet.
I am in contact with BD-MOD for a fix and as soon as it becomes available I will let everyone know.
So if you are looking for a great JB firmware for your UDP-203 look no further and go with BD-MOD!
If you have questions I'll gladly answer them in PM
Not true...the JB version for 1229 has already been released since last last week. I have been using it. Do a search for it. If you already have the encrypt.dat file. All you need is the updated version of the .bin file to replace and then perform an upgrade.If it's working for you then you are lucky cause I have tried multiple times with no success and had to revert back to 1219.
any advantage to go for 1229?Of course there is. Bug fixes and improvements.
if JB 1209 works well , why go for 1229
wat are the bugs / improvementRefer to the Oppo website for release notes.
can share
Thx
New Firmware Update
https://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-udp-203/UDP203-firmware-38-0222.aspx
Release date: February 27, 2017.
Category: Latest Official Release
Main Version: UDP20X-38-0222
Loader Version: TF0029
MCU Version: MCU203-01-1118
Release Notes:
This release is for the OPPO UDP-203 4K UHD Blu-ray Disc Player.
Special Notice:
Once this firmware version is installed on the player, you will not be able to revert back to any previous official or public beta firmware. There will be no problem upgrading to any future official or beta firmware release.
Comparing to the current Official release version UDP20X-33-1229, the major changes included in this version are:
Added the "Target Luminance" setting under HDR Settings to allow tweaking of the HDR to SDR conversion.
Added the RS-232 command "QHS" for querying the HDR playback status.
Added support for the HEVC 6.0 and 6.1 profile levels.
Improved the experimental "Strip Metadata" feature.
Improved stability when playing music from DLNA servers.
Improved compatibility with exFAT formatted hard drives over 2TB in capacity.
Resolved a stuttering playback issue with 3D titles.
Resolved an audio dropout issue with UHD title "Deepwater Horizon".
Resolved a playback issue with UHD title “Star Trek Into Darkness”.
Revised the VFD text during a firmware upgrade that allows customers to upgrade the firmware without connecting a display.
Resolved a black screen issue when streaming 4K content via the player's HDMI In port from Roku and other 4K streaming devices.
General disc compatibility improvements based on recent and upcoming UHD Blu-ray releases as well as user-submitted disc samples.
All features of the previous firmware are also included in this version.
And the latest new, jailbreak is no longer available for all model (except version 1209)! Those bros who slow action can just cry...Wah that's sad as I was waiting for the machine to stabilise and have a more mature FW before committing.
Btw, sometimes later they may release the jailbreak again, becoz without it, oppo may lost its advantage in this market.
And the latest new, jailbreak is no longer available for all model (except version 1209)! Those bros who slow action can just cry...Thanks for the info, so the jailbreak offers region free playback? Anything else?
Btw, sometimes later they may release the jailbreak again, becoz without it, oppo may lost its advantage in this market.
Thanks for the info, so the jailbreak offers region free playback? Anything else?
BTW, how much was the update?
Actually I have been using another player for my region free playback and also for playing files which the Oppo can't. Very happy with that player :)
And the latest new, jailbreak is no longer available for all model (except version 1209)! Those bros who slow action can just cry...Not true, i had UDP20XEU-33-1229 official on my EU 203, and updated to 1229EU JB no problems.
Btw, sometimes later they may release the jailbreak again, becoz without it, oppo may lost its advantage in this market.
Not true, i had UDP20XEU-33-1229 official on my EU 203, and updated to 1229EU JB no problems.If you have read my previous comment, only those who jailbreak after the deadline date will impact, because now u cant register the jailbreak with your serial no.
P.S. anybody know the eta of UDP20XEU-38-0222 JB?
Apparently the JB FW does offer region free playback of optical disc. For BR is changing the system language.
Price indicate is USD$99.99 in their website.
For me is I trying to delete the amount of hardware (PS4 and Android Media Box) in HT loop and let 203 do all video job.
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If you have read my previous comment, only those who jailbreak after the deadline date will impact, because now u cant register the jailbreak with your serial no.I'm confused... If Oppo pulled the plug on JB how come 1209 is still offered?
You may ask anyone who yet jailbreak try for it, please report to us if any seller still selling new jailbreak request.
I'm confused... If Oppo pulled the plug on JB how come 1209 is still offered?I have really no idea the logic behind, but this is the fact now facing. Dun put hope they will release new jailbreak firmware in the coming few weeks, may be months.
If you have read my previous comment, only those who jailbreak after the deadline date will impact, because now u cant register the jailbreak with your serial no.Sorry mate i find it hard to follow what you say (Lost in Translation)...
You may ask anyone who yet jailbreak try for it, please report to us if any seller still selling new jailbreak request.
I'm also slightly confused as I have noticed the latest JB has been removed from bdmod, so I'm on the last beta firmware 20XEU-33-1229B can I still JB or is too late as I understand oppo received a warning. Holding off updating just Incase.I think...
So what about the option here http://bluraysolution.com/20x_solution.html has anybody used this service? And will this still work for fw version 1229b as it suggests.I think this is for EU version. I believe our machine are US version.
I think this is for EU version. I believe our machine are US version.
I think...Yes, same thought as what i received from rong.
1. If you have Jailbreak you will be able to receive newer JB if they become available.
2. If you have not Jailbreak, you still can - only if you still have 1209 official firmware. (I don't know why there is this loop hole)
3. You can Import a Jailbreak Oppo 203 Player from China and continue to receive Jailbreak updates.
This is how i understand it, I am waiting for Rong to answer my e-mails.
If anybody else understands it a different way please comment.
Thought US is 110 VAC while EU is 230 VAC, so shouldn't our machine be the EU version instead?Our machines are universal voltage. But the Firmware is US..
Our machines are universal voltage. But the Firmware is US..
Ok so I have a UK player so http://bluraysolution.com/20x_solution.html is only option for me to JB with 1229b fw. Is that correct?I think you may have to email them, any attempt to download from the firmware link just opens an email window, TBH if existing JB owners can not get future updates it has been a waste of time, there are many bugs in 1229 firmware, also future updates will introduce Dolby Vision and streaming apps.
Get the china set, still available for 1229 even now.I thought with motherboard USB adapter we could cross flash the Oppo, so a US / EU model could flash the Chinese firmware.
Managed to jb from taobao for rmb300..approx sgd$60. Much cheaper than US$99. And got it running on version 1229. Guess this will be the last jb firmware based on the discussion here.
Tried playing a BD ISO and is working so I assume the jb is successful.
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Managed to jb from taobao for rmb300..approx sgd$60. Much cheaper than US$99. And got it running on version 1229. Guess this will be the last jb firmware based on the discussion here.
Tried playing a BD ISO and is working so I assume the jb is successful.
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Bro you are US set? May I know when you got the jailbreak file?Got the set from SLT. Just got the jb file last Fri. It takes them up to 48hrs to email the file. If you are keen, can share the link of the tb store that offers it.
anyway, on a separate note, I know of, one more bro, other than me that has experienced the loader transport mechanism for the oppo 203 sucks...
so far 2 times already, my disc is stuck behind in the machine when u eject it..
the tray comes out empty, with the disc stuck way back in the machine..
got to use my fingers to reach in n manually pull the disc out.
anyone else got this same issue?
anyway, on a separate note, I know of, one more bro, other than me that has experienced the loader transport mechanism for the oppo 203 sucks...
Hello,There should be a way to hardware flash the Chinese firmware, with a usb adaptor which plugs into the main board, we just need verification of this.
I'm also interested in the JB but I have a US oppo. The current firmware for the US model is UDP20x-38-0222 and I tested another JB and it was based on a previous fw edition. The US oppo model will not let you put an older firmware revision over a newer one. The only one I could find was UDPxCN-29-1209 which I'm guessing I won't be able to put on my player.
Hello,
I'm also interested in the JB but I have a US oppo. The current firmware for the US model is UDP20x-38-0222 and I tested another JB and it was based on a previous fw edition. The US oppo model will not let you put an older firmware revision over a newer one. The only one I could find was UDPxCN-29-1209 which I'm guessing I won't be able to put on my player.
I experienced this last night. Tray opened without the disc :o Closed the tray and opened again. Then the disc got stuck behind. Have to pull the disc out >:(
I experienced this last night also. Didnt manage to pull the disc, couldnt see it at all. The tray opened without the discs inside then close it back again.
I experienced this last night also. Didnt manage to pull the disc, couldnt see it at all. The tray opened without the discs inside then close it back again.Anything special about the disc?
Which version are you looking for? 1229?
So how did you manage to get the disc out?
I'm looking for a jailbreak that will let me overwrite the latest UDP20x-38-0222 firmware on my Oppo. The Oppo only let's you put newer firmware as you can't go backwards. I tried with an older JB and official firmware and it wouldn't let me.
Yes, as far as we know, oppo firmware can't be downgraded.
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I experienced this last night also. Didnt manage to pull the disc, couldnt see it at all. The tray opened without the discs inside then close it back again.
I'm looking for a jailbreak that will let me overwrite the latest UDP20x-38-0222 firmware on my Oppo. The Oppo only let's you put newer firmware as you can't go backwards. I tried with an older JB and official firmware and it wouldn't let me.
Yes, as far as we know, oppo firmware can't be downgraded.
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Thanks - is there any JB firmware available for an Oppo with my UDP20x-38-0222 firmware?
Unless the jailbreakers can downgrade your 203 to 1229 or earlier firmware.
Thanks - is there any JB firmware available for an Oppo with my UDP20x-38-0222 firmware?
Unless the jailbreakers can downgrade your 203 to 1229 or earlier firmware.
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That would be fine with me if they could figure out how to do that - there weren't any benefits for me to the new firmwareYes,you still can downgrade to earlier version.
Yes,you still can downgrade to earlier version.
I tried via thumb drive in my 203. On my player when I attempt to put in the jb firmware it says Your player already has a newer version UDP20x-38-0222 of the firmware. My only option is OK - I don't know how to put the JB firmware on my player again. I was able to put in on when I had the old firmware but not with the current.Downgrade firmware is not as easy as ABC, else since donkey years ago ppl ald can know how to do so.
Downgrade firmware is not as easy as ABC, else since donkey years ago ppl ald can know how to do so.
bro Wizard, do you think u can get in touch with S.L.T on this issue, since you did the M.O on their behalf, Am i guessing right??
or am i wrong here?
I am not sure if this is a translation issue or an unknown idiom but if any knows how to downgrade the firmware on the 203 I'd love the information.Have u tried email the person who sold you the jb encryption file. They might be able to assist u.?
Have u tried email the person who sold you the jb encryption file. They might be able to assist u.?
Remember if you JB, never install newer official release version.
U can only (at your own risk) install one version newer public beta. So that you can still revert back to one lower version.
If no one can assist, then just have to be patient and wait for a newer version JB firmware. If it even happens..
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Just checked with SLT. As of today, they have issued out all the receipts to those on the MO list by snail mail. Check your letter box tmr or the next. Let's close this chapter and move on...
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Hi all,
Thought of getting the oppo 203, just a few questions;
1) My 4k LG does not have HDR. Does this makes any difference?
2) What about files play back from NAS? Any issues with file type?
Thanks
Most importantly is does your LG support hdcp 2.2? Some older TVs only has hdmi 1.4 ports thus limiting to only 4K/30fps.
Don't support rmvb files..
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yes it does support HCDP 2.2.U might wanna go over AVS to read up on your TV model to see if there are settings to optimise with oppo 203 on the back lighting/ brightness/ black levels.
yes it does support HCDP 2.2.The latest official update adds support for HEVC Level 6.1 so there is not much it won't play, although i have a problem with AAC 7.1 files that Oppo have said they are working on.
might be considering selling my under use 203. looking to get something else.FYI,all oppo jailbreak has been freeze, only china set able to jailbreak now, including version 1209.
so far i have not updated any firmware. so shld be still good for those looking to JB.
FYI,all oppo jailbreak has been freeze, only china set able to jailbreak now, including version 1209.This isn't necessarily true i have EU player and have just had recent JB with latest firmware coming out very soon so if you have a EU player there is still option for JB now.
This isn't necessarily true i have EU player and have just had recent JB with latest firmware coming out very soon so if you have a EU player there is still option for JB now.
This isn't necessarily true i have EU player and have just had recent JB with latest firmware coming out very soon so if you have a EU player there is still option for JB now.May i know when u received the jailbreak file?
May i know when u received the jailbreak file?
What good is BD MOD if they stopped supporting the 203 completely and you are stuck on buggy first 1209?
They say on the website that the JB works on 1229 and they are testing it on the latest firmware too. They do say that this is for EU model only. Also, the JB is $50 more expensive than bd-mod.I need to understand when bro mattbee got his jailbreak. As the website just might not update the latest info on time. Now most of the taobao resources are update their sale webpage to show only china set able to jailbreak, they ald taken down EU and US set, but still 1-2 small distributor havnt update their sale info. So wait for bro mattbee to give clarification on this.
I need to understand when bro mattbee got his jailbreak. As the website just might not update the latest info on time. Now most of the taobao resources are update their sale webpage to show only china set able to jailbreak, they ald taken down EU and US set, but still 1-2 small distributor havnt update their sale info. So wait for bro mattbee to give clarification on this.
We will send you a link to download the current jailbreak firmware along with your jailbreak file. When new firmware is released we will also list it here.
As some plagiarist doing the fake scam for the customers and they making rumours about the 38 version can't be jailbreak anymore. We are declare: We only do service for our customers. We don't have any responsibility to the people who was cheated by other website. We can do the update for our customers:-)
The new version 38-0222 is under testing, a few bugs will be fixed shortly. We will release it as soon as we can.
33-1229 (Current version)
Right click and save the firmware file to the USB stick with your jailbreak file.
sorry for newbie question
to cut story short. i bought oppo 203 yest. i using marantz 7011 n 1080p projector. but when i tried to use uhd dics it says yr tv is not hdcp 2.2..
Question: do we need 4 k projector to play 4 k dics?
do i need to update fw?
do i need to change hdmi cable?
thx.
I need to understand when bro mattbee got his jailbreak. As the website just might not update the latest info on time. Now most of the taobao resources are update their sale webpage to show only china set able to jailbreak, they ald taken down EU and US set, but still 1-2 small distributor havnt update their sale info. So wait for bro mattbee to give clarification on this.I got the JB a week ago.
I got the JB a week ago.
Weird. Don't understand why is China set immune to the jailbreak restrictions?
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tought Oppo is American company with factory in China like Emotiva.?
u know y? its because, when u google search, "Hardware Hack or Crack on Oppo 203"Do you means other singaporean has no gut except you?i just curious.
my thread comes out 1st!!!!
Worldwide bro!!!!
nobody dared... it was a singaporean who dared!
so anyone comes to xtremeplace from all over the world because i dared to do a crack on my personal set!
not the big ass stores sellers or distributers!!!
a loner in singapore did it.
;D
Do you means other singaporean has no gut except you?i just curious.
u know y? its because, when u google search, "Hardware Hack or Crack on Oppo 203"
my thread comes out 1st!!!!
Worldwide bro!!!!
nobody dared... it was a singaporean who dared!
so anyone comes to xtremeplace from all over the world because i dared to do a crack on my personal set!
not the big ass stores sellers or distributers!!!
a loner in singapore did it.
;D
If anyone gets a JB to work on the newer US firmware, feel free to PM me. I haven't heard back from any JB makers I could find on the web so it may not be possible but I'm still hopeful.Seems like currently US models are stuck with 1209 FW.
Seems like currently US models are stuck with 1209 FW.
EU and CN models probably can get newer JB FW updates..
Oh NNo :( :( :(
Was really looking forward with the JB for 0222 version. Anyway, 0222 version still have stuttering issues, especially when playing the test atmos scenes, helicopter etc....
Glad to add this to my setup. Gonna be a fun weekend. ;D
(https://preview.ibb.co/kQHoOv/IMG_9536.jpg)
Disc tray stuck is an intermittent problem. Good luck...
Will be fun if the disk won't get stuck inside like some folks here experience.
Keep your fingers crossed.
There is local warranty so it's all good.
Have fun with your warranty this weekend. Hope it's all good.
Well, i doubt there'll be a need for it. But thank you very much anyways.
You have a pleasant weekend too and may whatever warranties you may or may not have keep you happy.
Will be fun if the disk won't get stuck inside like some folks here experience.Considering the large number of unaffected world wide users versus stuck disc users, I think there's a bit of fear mongering by people who seem to dislike the Oppo.
Keep your fingers crossed.
Considering the large number of unaffected world wide users versus stuck disc users, I think there's a bit of fear mongering by people who seem to dislike the Oppo.
I think our forum does not suppress anyone (well except anyone who likes our government..) so when it comes to hifi, take each post with objectivity, and decide for yourself.
IMO, 4k players are a new item, so there will be issues. Even with the Samsung and Panny there are also issues. Just that locally we do not have a large user base, and the Oppo probably has more users.
Ultimately if the 203 proves to be unreliable, you can bet that the fallout will be great, and Oppo is no fool. If they don't fix the issues, then they will be kaput.
So YMMV bro, cheers :)
Considering the large number of unaffected world wide users versus stuck disc users, I think there's a bit of fear mongering by people who seem to dislike the Oppo.
I think our forum does not suppress anyone (well except anyone who likes our government..) so when it comes to hifi, take each post with objectivity, and decide for yourself.
IMO, 4k players are a new item, so there will be issues. Even with the Samsung and Panny there are also issues. Just that locally we do not have a large user base, and the Oppo probably has more users.
Ultimately if the 203 proves to be unreliable, you can bet that the fallout will be great, and Oppo is no fool. If they don't fix the issues, then they will be kaput.
So YMMV bro, cheers :)
Not sure am I the 1st here, but I guess I officially bricked my 203 after trying to update to UDP20X-41-0317B. Now totally no display. No 'Hello'. :(
My 203 is still on the 1209 firmware. Does this mean that I can update to the jailbreak firmware if I get my hands on it?
Thanks
Yes but if you EVER do a real update you can NEVER go back to the JB version unfortunately.BUT you can go up to the next version beta and flash back...
Right you can flash back to the last official release but you can't flash back to the jailbreak. I put the latest beta on mine and it will not go back to the jailbreak.Because the latest beta is 2 versions above the last Jailbreak...
Tried playing files from my ESATA/USB 3.0B version Docking station, Oppo is not able to detect the files, takes forever to load. Anyone having this issue?
(http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag329/ronildoq/USB%20Type%20B_zps02mbuv2x.jpg)
Doesnt work when using the Hard disc connected to the docking station and USB 3.0 to Oppo 203
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Works perfectly, no issues when connecting using this type of USB3.0 connection
Both disc in NTFS format
Chkdsk no errors on hard drive. The only difference is one formatted with a GPT structure and the normal hard disk is MBR structure. What is the size of the hard drive when using the docking station? Both hard drive with GPT structure not able to play on the Oppo , gotta find a way to convert it to MBR without losing the data
New Firmware Update
https://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-udp-203/UDP203-firmware-42-0329.aspx (https://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-udp-203/UDP203-firmware-42-0329.aspx)
Release date: April 6, 2017.
Category: Latest Official Release
Main Version: UDP20X-42-0329
Loader Version: TF0032
MCU Version: MCU203-01-1118
Release Notes:
This release is for the OPPO UDP-203 4K UHD Blu-ray Disc Player.
Special Notice:
Once this firmware version is installed on the player, you will not be able to revert back to any previous official or public beta firmware. There will be no problem upgrading to any future official or beta firmware release.
Comparing to the previous Official release version UDP20X-38-0222, the major changes included in this version are:
Added support for the OPPO UDP-20X MediaControl app, which turns your mobile device into a remote that provides complete control over your OPPO 4K UHD Blu-ray player. Please select from the following device types to download the application: iPhone / iPad / iPod Touch, Android, Android (APK), Amazon App Store.
Added the Dolby Digital and DTS options under the S/PDIF Output setting in Audio Output Setup, which allows the player to re-encode different audio formats into the Dolby Digital or DTS audio format for the S/PDIF output.
Improved the output accuracy when using the RGB PC Level color space.
Resolved a frame dropping issue when using cable or satellite boxes through the HDMI In.
Improved A/V sync when using the HDMI In.
Resolved an issue where the Full zoom mode would not fill the screen when playing 4:3 content.
Improved stability when accessing SMB servers.
Resolved an issue where ejecting the disc tray could lock up the player.
General disc compatibility improvements based on recent and upcoming UHD Blu-ray releases as well as user-submitted disc samples.
All features of the previous firmware are also included in this version.
Found the problem causing Oppo 203 not to be able to read the Hard drive. Here is a solution in case you come across a similar situation like me.
DL the AOMEI Asst Partition tool, and install it normally. Its FREE. NO adware etc.
When the programme started, i noticed that the 2 particular disk on docking station had a separate unallocated partition with a * marking, with a FLAG GPT,MSR - 128MB. I highlighted that and deleted that partition, then merged it with the existing and suddenly all works! Oppo now able to read the disk. No more spinning. So nothing to do with MBR or GPT structure. Both works for the Oppo 203. Data intact :)
(http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag329/ronildoq/Flag%20GPT%20MSR%20under%20Other_zpsi8djrbex.jpg)
Cheers!
Looking forward to try the Media Control App.
But my 203 is still in Hospital.
Yah, just grumbling about the long wait
Hospital? Still not resolved? Thats why i prefer to install the official version and not the Beta version. And also when updating the firmware, wiser to use the thumbdrive to update. U never know what might go wrong during update vide network.
Anyway, Oppo is still superb, and good to know engineers are working to resolve issues vide firmware upgrades, this is what i like about oppo.
If you just want to play back iso and BDVM why not go for a good quality media player?
I bit the bullet and update the official firmware last night. I can always go back to my Oppo BDP-93 or use BD-RE discs.The main problem with official firmware is Cinavia, it is painful.
I am sure that someone will release an updated jailbreak in the future. I can't have guests over watching UHD movies with random audio drops.
Oppo has a habit of releasing models with many bugs and then firmware updates to fix them. I have 2 oppos but don't think will buy again. Oppo users are very tolerant of this for some reason saying they are good with firmware updates. If they were released with not many bugs in the first place they wouldn't need so many updates. I'll be getting the Panasonic 4k player this time. Test shows they are better than the Oppo and less issues.Actually bro, not all their players are buggy. The 80 was good and so was the 101. In fact the 105/103 was quite stable. This is more to do with the stability of the format, than anything to do with Oppo. But at least they are responsive.
Oppo has a habit of releasing models with many bugs and then firmware updates to fix them. I have 2 oppos but don't think will buy again. Oppo users are very tolerant of this for some reason saying they are good with firmware updates. If they were released with not many bugs in the first place they wouldn't need so many updates. I'll be getting the Panasonic 4k player this time. Test shows they are better than the Oppo and less issues.That isn't actually a fair representation of the facts, The Panasonic UB900 has been available since March 2016 in the UK, it launched with many bugs including a Dolby Atmos bug from day one, these where fixed with firmware updates so that by the time it launched in the USA and other parts of the world a few months later these bugs had been largely fixed.
Some guys in US had their 205 shipped oredi. Hope there will be MO like for the 203I am sure there will be. It's just a matter of when you want to join the queue.
Some guys in US had their 205 shipped oredi. Hope there will be MO like for the 203
That isn't actually a fair representation of the facts, The Panasonic UB900 has been available since March 2016 in the UK, it launched with many bugs including a Dolby Atmos bug from day one, these where fixed with firmware updates so that by the time it launched in the USA and other parts of the world a few months later these bugs had been largely fixed.
That is no different to the Oppo, by the time the Oppo has been on the Market 13 months it too will have had all it's bugs erased and many enhancements added.
great! Let them test the product
Working on it, keep an eye out here on the MO threads, but maybe not till June time frame...Usa always get the bulk of production then the rest trickles out to the real world
Actually it is kind of fair. Oppo probably had theirs in development for a longer period - could have done more bug shakedowns. If Oppo had released their in March of 2016 and had the bugs they do now - people would probably be more understanding. If someone just released a new DVD player - would you expect many issues? I'm not saying Oppo won't ever get around to fixing their bugs - just that they probably either should have fixed many of the bugs before selling it or released it after they fixed so many of the bugs.You seem to be saying that the Panasonic wasn't in development for an age also, they was the first company to announce a player, and it then took 12 months too emerge, the release date was pushed back twice.
Actually it is kind of fair. Oppo probably had theirs in development for a longer period - could have done more bug shakedowns. If Oppo had released their in March of 2016 and had the bugs they do now - people would probably be more understanding. If someone just released a new DVD player - would you expect many issues? I'm not saying Oppo won't ever get around to fixing their bugs - just that they probably either should have fixed many of the bugs before selling it or released it after they fixed so many of the bugs.The DVD platform is very stable. Likewise the Blu Ray system is also fairly so. But UHD is a work in progress and Oppo not only has to build a new player, it has to deal with new standards like Hdmi 2, HDCP 2.2 and interface with other devices that may never have talked to it before... So I would give it some slack.
You seem to be saying that the Panasonic wasn't in development for an age also, they was the first company to announce a player, and it then took 12 months too emerge, the release date was pushed back twice.
Let me be clear - I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying the Panasonic came out LONG before the Oppo - they had a good reason for having many glitches on initial release. What I'm saying is if I gave someone one week to prep a research paper on the fall of the Roman Empire and gave you 9 more months to do the same and I also let you look at their research paper, I would find it to be a lack of effort on your part if you didn't have far fewer typos, and far less errors in your paper. Does that example make it any clearer for you?No, they use 2 completely different chips, Oppo sourced a chip that could be updated to Hardware DV, it was fresh of the racks, it has more capabilities than the Panasonic one, it is like saying we have had jet engines for 60 years, we should build new jet engines that don't have any problems, doesn't happen.
May I asked where can I get a good buy for 205?You can ask SLT when it actually arrives - I am sure they will share info on the launch.
You can ask SLT when it actually arrives - I am sure they will share info on the launch.P.s. Who is SLT?
So does that mean The smurfs 2 can play BDMV folders without JB the 203?
Silly question - who is Throne?I believed he is the chap who cracked and uploaded the 4k UHD smurfs disc image.
Saw that the Oppo 205 is now available on amazon. Since it is voltage switchable, what would be the difference between this US set and our local distro set? Warranty is also same 2 yrs international right?Bro
Saw that the Oppo 205 is now available on amazon. Since it is voltage switchable, what would be the difference between this US set and our local distro set? Warranty is also same 2 yrs international right?
BroSaw the warranty is 2 yrs international for 203 offered by SLT. Might not the same for amazon set. Was thinking of the pros & cons, like using the US set for Uhd discs purchased from amazon but shipping over will incur 7% gst & etc. Would appreciate if Bros can share their thoughts other than the warranty. Tks
So let me understand this correctly: you are buying from Amazon, and you want SLT to honor the Amazon warranty?
Isn't that like buying a PI car and asking Borneo Motors to fix your Corolla when it goes bust?
I don't know if that will happen.. you may want to check on how the warranty works, cheers
You would have to send it back to the US in that case. But most likely warranty will be void as soon as you have it shipped internationally. if you check Oppo site, this is what they honor:Thanks bro for clarification on the warranty part. The 205 looks damn solid. Would love to own one if circumstances permit. Checked with SLT about a week back and was told pre order will be announced on their Facebook, either by mid may or end may.
"This warranty applies only to OPPO brand products imported or manufactured by OPPO Digital, Inc. and sold to the original consumer purchaser in the U.S.A. or Canada"
If you buy locally, the warranty is most likely being supported by the local company and unlikely they can honor any warranty for a product not bought from them.
Thanks dXter. Can the analogue outs be such that FR FL are from XLR while the rest are via RCAs?
How about atmos or dtsx? Only via hdmi? I hope can combine xlr out, rca out and hdmi out.Atmos and DTS:X can only be bitstreamed due to the metadata, so HDMI only.
Dual SABRE PRO DACs
OPPO UDP-205 is equipped with two ESS Technology ES9038PRO DACs for both stereo and 7.1 channel analog audio. The ES9038PRO is the flagship of the ESS PRO series. It sets a new benchmark for audio excellence with its best-in-class 140 dB of dynamic range in a 32-bit, 8-channel DAC. The ES9038PRO SABRE DAC features ESS’ patented 32-bit HyperStreamDAC technology, which is responsible for the outstanding clarity and sound stage.
I started the ball rolling on this issue..
SLT has already posted the invoice to my home address.
I am surprised that u haven't received yours.
have u changed address, or given a wrong address?
You have had a reply...I was driving to Malaysia and out for dinner there, so give some respect please before you complain about this or that. Don't expect an immediate reply just because you sent a message and I didn't reply immediately...people have other things on that are outside of your control too.
SLT is also out station and I will chase this up yet again when I am back. I'm as disappointed as you are. I have no control over SLT's staff, so have to rely on what I am told has or hasn't been done, and only act accordingly when I hear something hasn't happened. This is the first I have heard you or whoever got your set hasn't received anything.
As I am outstation without my computer I don't have the mo spreadsheet with me so cannot check the specific details until I get back.
Bro Wiz, I believed uelover is just a bit concerned that for too long he have yet to receive the hardcopy sale invoice. I'm sure he didn't mean any disrespect.
uelover, I think SLT staff is to be blamed for their oversight...there is nothing Wiz can do anything about it. Please let Wiz check for you when he returned. I'm sure even w/o the hardcopy receipt, if anything wrong with the Oppo player, SLT will still honor the warranty. No worries.
Thank you, desray.Yep. I can read in between the lines based on your response. Hence I stepped in to post my comments before it blown out of proportion. U can rest assured wiz will help u in this regard. I can vouch for him that he's a true gentleman. The problem lies with SLT, not wiz and not you.
Yes, I didn't mean any disrespect to anybody, and I am anxious to make sure that everything are in good order. If I could do that without troubling anyone (i.e. to contact SLT myself), I would.
Oppo has enabled Dolby Vision with its latest beta firmware.
I can vouch for Wiz too, a true gentleman.I think bro Wiz is a regular stand up chap, who is trying to help us get a good deal..
do we to factory reset. then update or straight goes firmware update? thx.
Hi all,
I m looking to get the udp-203 . However my avr is the 1st gen avr-7200 without the "wa"
Would I be able to play bk uhd disc
After jailbreak 1229 installation, are we still able to use the oppo MediaControl apps?I use the oppo media control with a JB 203 only thing is I have to add player manually by ip address. I can browse network files and control player through app. Works great to be honest.
In order to use the app, is it required to have latest firmware installation in oppo 203?
Hi all,No is the answer unfortunately, I have JB 203 and stuck on old fw, Dolby vision update just released and if I update I lose JB, tough decisions at the minute.
I came across this thread on a Google search for the Oppo 203 jailbreak. I have been holding off buying the Oppo for the past few weeks once I learned of the issues with JB'ing the latest firmware. Is there currently a way for me to buy a player that can still be JB'ed while being able to upgrade to the recent firmware? I am in the US, but am open to purchasing a player from anywhere as long as I can still read the menus! :)
Any reliable 4K/UHD HDMI cables to recommend for the Oppo 203?
I know it comes with 1 cable but I wanna get some
Thanks!
No is the answer unfortunately, I have JB 203 and stuck on old fw, Dolby vision update just released and if I update I lose JB, tough decisions at the minute.
I just got a 203. My old player is a 93 which I believe is region-free. So what will I missed out on the non-JB 203? Region B and C Blu-ray? Many of the blu-ray comes with multi-region these days..so I supposed we will be able to watch 90% of the blu-ray titles out there correct? Also HK, JPN should be region A too correct?Only thing different with a jailbreak 203 would be disable cinavia and iso file, bdmv iso playback you can still have multi zone for blu ray with external/internal mod
205 not available locally yet...an MO might be done when it is.Noted.
USA/UK markets always get first...well before tiny red dot
Silly question:
I wanna rip a bluray disc on my PC but i do not have a external BR drive
Can I connect the 203 via usb to my PC to read the disc?
Sorry cant test myself cos no USB cable.....
Anyone knows where I can get the Oppo 203?Can order from SLT store on Lazada. Or you might want to pm SLT here.
Any news on 205 coming to town?Saw it in recent KL AV show. Also wondering is anyone selling it in Singapore yet.
It so strange that there are no news on delivery date.
Have checked, SLT , Anson audio, Sound Affairs, nobody have any stock of any oppo models new or old.
Oppo is banned in sg ? Whats the deal?
if u have a OPPO 105D, u can take my OPPO 203...
i have 3 XBOX ONE S 4K players with me at home to handle my 4K discs.
The local distributor........ They not working ah.... Why no 203/205 available sia
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The 203 did have stock. But you need to reserve directly with SLT. SLT also does sell directly. So for obvious reasons, they would rather sell directly themselves if they can.
There was stock in July.
I just tested the 203 using it as CD transport to play music CDs, quality is far off from expectations... hopefully the 205 will not disappoint ... player is good for 4K HDR and Dolby vision, excellent. No issues playing high quality remux files encoded in hevc containers and HDR content...It is a BRP and not a pure CDP - the latter function serves as a versatile platform and that's it. You want something of a quality, you are better off to invest in a DAC of your budget. 205 just boxed all it in, clearly a step-up as always but you can't eliminate the fact that it is not a standalone player for music due to many features embedded in.
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Just sharing :)Pixture for those who don't read chinese
Improvement of Oppo UDP-203. It had upgraded to UDP-203 SE.
https://www.ohcooltech.com.tw/products/oppo-udp-203-se
lazy to dig old thread. can anyone tell me whether any issue playin mkv files ? thz.
lazy to dig old thread. can anyone tell me whether any issue playin mkv files ? thz.
No issue but I will not use Oppo to playback mkv files. I will rather use a dedicated media player for that. I believed mkv files with Dolby Atmos remux still won't get a proper passthrough...it revert to LPCM (still lossless though)
Hi desray, how did u come to know it reverts to LPCM? Which firmware were on when u encountered this? Did it happen with the rest of the mkv files? Could it be the source file of how it is being encoded?
There was a period in one of the software upgrade process I encountered this. The signal wasn’t passing through correctly to the Denon. Played another file, same case. Did a microprocessor reset on Denon, same case. Turns out the simple solution was to erase persistent storage and reset factory settings for accounts after the firmware upgrade. That did the trick
There seems to be some handshaking issues between my UDP203 and Epson TW8200W pj. The player's home menu only shows if I turn on the player before the pj and regardless of whether the AVR (Denon X4200W) or player is turned on first. And if I switch to another input and back or turn on pj first, it shows no signal.
Both player and avr are on its latest firmware and all settings are set to Auto, including AVR's. Tweaked a few settings on the AVR (i.e. enabled i/p scaler) as suggested by Desray but nothing seems to work.
Bro, as mentioned there are a myriad of variables that need to be considered. Sometimes it is the resolution of the Oppo player that you are trying to send across to the display (in this case, your projector) could be a concern. Make sure you don't use UHD Custom and instead use Source Direct for a change. Sometimes it is the HDMI cable that is not able to support the high bandwidth required to send a proper "clean" signal to the projector. By the way, did a Factory Reset for your Oppo too to ensure all setting are revert to factory mode like Color Depth and resolution are all set to "Auto". As for the AVR, play around with the Video Conversion for the signal sent out by the Oppo player to the AVR to get properly synced before sending the signal to the Epson projector. Have you try all of these suggestions?
Did not attempt to use the UHD settings at all since the projector is only 1080p and the HDMI cable used is provided with the player so maybe tonight I will try to use Source Direct for a start.
Anyway, I have also sent a ticket to Oppo, and I'm pretty surprise their response was fast. They suggested changing the Color Space to YCbCr 4:2:2 and Color Depth to 10-bit. They also suggested that I connect directly from player to projector to test, which is no brainer, but I would have to remove my avr due to the layout of my console. If I set the HDMI to passthrough when power off, is it the same as connect direct?
I changed the color space and depth to the suggested value and seems like it is working. Shall try a few more times to confirm. Because of this issue, I gave up the jailbreak to update to the latest firmware in hope that it works. Now no choice but to get the A10 for the BD iso playback.
Anyway thanks for the help. Looks like not all Settings when set to Auto works.
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I still don't see any UDP 205's around. Does anyone know why? It was released some time ago.I think SLT has been rather quiet..
Glad to know that its been resolved...By “right”, the Auto setting helps to do a proper negotiation between the player and the projector. For instance, 4:2:0 at 8bit is the baseline...it will transmit the signal to raw to the projector to do proper upscaling if you choose to use Source as output instead of Custom UHD setting as it sent out an interlace signal (lower bandwidth required) over to the long HDMI cable (apparently your HDMI not that good - it may not even be HDMI 2.0 compliant). By setting 4:2:2 at 8/10bit is the best as baseline conversion from 4:2:0 to 4:2:2 can be processed on your Oppo before transmitting it to the Epson projector to do a 4:4:4. If your cable quality or bandwidth (due to long distance covered) not up to the task, it will result in blank out or snowy static picture.Surprising when I connect direct without passing through avr, it works on Auto. Something wrong with Avr coz when I check the video info on the avr, everything is - -. Thats means avr not receiving any signal from oppo?
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Surprising when I connect direct without passing through avr, it works on Auto. Something wrong with Avr coz when I check the video info on the avr, everything is - -. Thats means avr not receiving any signal from oppo?
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Bro, did you try my suggestion on the Video Conversion? set it to On and then turn on the progressive scaling.Yup. Do you have any hdmi 2.0 compliant cable to loan so that I can test if the problem lies with the hdmi cable provided with oppo?
For the 203, can I now get Dolby Vision from Netflix if I plug the chromecast ultra into the HDMI In?
I can get HDR 10 but not DV... for example with Daredevil. But PQ better than with the LG e6 web is, or when the CC was plugged into my Marantz SR7010
Since no Oppo 205 in Spore. I am thinking of buying in Malaysia.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171112/71c34b3a0935eb327c919b0d6c31a4a7.jpg)Nice bro, where did you see this?
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Nice bro, where did you see this?At the KL Hi Fi show in July.
Irony isn't it, if we have to go North to get it..
Hi ,
anybody keen for China Oppo 203 JB set able to support SACD & ISO playback.
Firmware as enclosedhttps://preview.ibb.co/kTGNJG/0_CC498_F0_AEBF_42_E4_B6_BB_9_CFBBC6_D0166.jpg (https://preview.ibb.co/kTGNJG/0_CC498_F0_AEBF_42_E4_B6_BB_9_CFBBC6_D0166.jpg)
You may PM brudder Kelvin Sin, search for his info in the forum.
He helped me got the JB 203 version, am happy with it.
Why not release the link here if this is a free update? Unless of course, there is cost involved...Its not free, no free lunch in the world.haha...but i just help to source it if there has demand.
Its not free, no free lunch in the world.haha...but i just help to source it if there has demand.
Hi anyone knows the 205 would be introduced in this week Hifi show? 203 was released last year at the show tooSound Decisions told me some weeks ago that they have not seen any Oppo for months, and not sure what is happening. SLT has not come forth to say anything to its valued customers here in XTP. So don't expect anyone here to be able to answer your question.
just out of curiosity, for those of you who JB-ed your 203/ 205, are you currently able to play BD ISO files with full menu playback?This is no doubt. Else what purpose to jailbreak?
This is no doubt. Else what purpose to jailbreak?
i wanted to clarify because the JB mods advertised BD region free playback only. so i guess being able to play BD ISO files is a happy by-product of the JB mod? because if I'm not mistaken, a brand new Oppo player doesn't play BD ISO files out of the box right?Bd iso playback consider one of the biggest function of jb. Region free just means u able to play uhd from any region. Iso for sure will not support by any manufacturer because this will sued by film companies. This is the reason why oppo locked the rear door to enable jailbreak in international version few months ago, because been pressurized by international bd organization.
Bd iso playback consider one of the biggest function of jb. Region free just means u able to play uhd from any region. Iso for sure will not support by any manufacturer because this will sued by film companies. This is the reason why oppo locked the rear door to enable jailbreak in international version few months ago, because been pressurized by international bd organization.
Hi bro!Wah dun say so leh bro, i just try helping to source, dun wan be high profile..pm me to discuss further la. Thanks!
I heard from few friends that you help them to freight in Oppo 203 jailbreak set?
Feedback for this jailbreak set was as described,they are enjoying all their ISO files now without problem..
Pls Pm me price and delivery duration to reach my doorstep(I will pay my own import tax according to custom bill),I'm very keen.
Thanks!
SLT technologies phone number has no one to answer
It seems we cannot obtain the 203 or 205 here in singapore
Has anyone bought directly from Oppo or Amazon ?
i hear say SLT has some internal issues... anyone any infomation?
I was hoping someone here can help me out - I finally picked up a UDP-203, but I'm having a hard time finding where to buy the jailbreak firmware, as the two places I previously knew about aren't responding to emails. I'm currently on UDP20X-42-0329. Can anyone please help point me in the right direction? I just want to watch my ripped iso's over the network!No standalone jailbreak available on market especially international version.
You heard from who? where is your source?
I also no reply from WhatsApp for many months. I hope that all is well but no news is not always good.
No standalone jailbreak available on market especially international version.Not at all? I have a player on the older firmware. Why wouldn't a jailbreak be available?
AFAIK all along SLT seems like an OMO company run by Nic alone ..I see...thks for the update bro. In that case, I will not bother Nic anymore as it is no longer his burden to bear.
Doorstep Delivery..Collection..Update of player..Replying emails.. Invoice..etc..All done by Nic himself.
Nic resigned a week before ISSE show..
Not likely he will reply to any emails..msg..whatsapp anymore if its regarding Oppo or SLT as he is no more with SLT(Not in a position to talk anymore)
*Btw..he still replies to a few of my friends in 'friends group' that he regarded us as friends...only friends casual talk.
It's a pity.. we have fans here, but I guess the Singapore volume of sales isn't big enough..Agreed with Pete, Oppo 4k UHD players still one of the better premium players to get for home theater enthusiasts. Don't let this dealership woes deter you from your purchase. Just have to import from China direct I guess...we have a MO segment in this forum, any member can take the lead to do a MO if there is a shortage of supply locally...meanwhile, let's pray that SLT continues to render her support to her existing customers, otherwise hopefully some local dealers like KEC, SD or Peng can take over.
I hope Sean and co are ok too - I didn't get any replies from him either..
The machine is now quite mature and stable, and one of the few with DV enabled, so it's a prize still.
Anyone who wants the 205 will probably need to go PI, at least until SLT returns or someone else takes up the dealership..
Not at all? I have a player on the older firmware. Why wouldn't a jailbreak be available?Oppo closed the backdoor after complaint by BD Association. You think those jailbreaker really so smart to root the set? Everybody know a bd or even UHD player which enable BD ISO playback can greatly boost the sale. Dont ask me how real the news of source, up to you believe or not.
Agreed with Pete, Oppo 4k UHD players still one of the better premium players to get for home theater enthusiasts. Don't let this dealership woes deter you from your purchase. Just have to import from China direct I guess...we have a MO segment in this forum, any member can take the lead to do a MO if there is a shortage of supply locally...meanwhile, let's pray that SLT continues to render her support to her existing customers, otherwise hopefully some local dealers like KEC, SD or Peng can take over.
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Few bro pm me about the china lobang, im thinking to make a MO for this. But is this allowed as the local dealer is still selling it. Please advise.There is no hard and fast rule...it's a free market out there. But do bear in mind that as a MO organizer, u must specify your terms and conditions clearly to avoid any form of misunderstandings which may inevtiably lead to unhappy endings...hence doing MO is a rather huge undertaking from the part of the organizer but if done right and all the members that joined the MO knows what to expect etc...I dun see any issue with that. But let me state categorically that mods and admin will refrain from meddling or mediate for any unhappy customer service or quality of the products arising from the MO unless there is a criminal aspects to it where police report has been lodged.
Oppo closed the backdoor after complaint by BD Association. You think those jailbreaker really so smart to root the set? Everybody know a bd or even UHD player which enable BD ISO playback can greatly boost the sale. Dont ask me how real the news of source, up to you believe or not.Yeah, but that shouldn't have any effect on players with the old firmware. If a firmware was able to be jailbroken last year, that same firmware should be able to be jailbroken right now. Am I missing something?
Yeah, but that shouldn't have any effect on players with the old firmware. If a firmware was able to be jailbroken last year, that same firmware should be able to be jailbroken right now. Am I missing something?There is two types of available jailbreak now. One is 1229, u cant further go any version beyond this u less u send the set to china jailbreaker flash it with 0329.Its not simple as previous usb jailbreak, require open box and flash via special jig.
By the way, a diy version 103 machine is coming out soon with jailbreak ready. Price at least half price of current used 103D. I may create a MO for it once released.Stay tune.bro is that the 203 or 103?
bro is that the 203 or 103?
We have been talking about the 203 here leh..
A permenantly region free 203 will be nice.
DIY means modified from original oppo or totally self assembled?Totally assemble by thirs OEM, but even the board also not 103 design, just the firmware using oppo.
I am the only person who will stir Dragons out of their liar...
no one will be a straight shooter like me in xtremeplace.
I tell it as it is..
pay ur staff well, n u can see long term rewards.
to the boss of SLT, GET YOUR MARLBLES TOGETHER, N VALUE YOUR STAFF!!
PAY THEM ACCORDINGLY!!
There is two types of available jailbreak now. One is 1229, u cant further go any version beyond this u less u send the set to china jailbreaker flash it with 0329.Its not simple as previous usb jailbreak, require open box and flash via special jig.Well, I'm already on 0329, so the firmware should still work for me! Can you post or PM me a link to the place in China that does it?
Another method is directly buy the set from him with pre-jailbreak with 0329.
Btw,unfortunately there is still no any jailbreak firmware after 0329 which support dolby vision, as this feature was released after june version. For those who fussy with this feature can just keep waiting till the day durian drop...
By the way, a diy version 103 machine is coming out soon with jailbreak ready. Price at least half price of current used 103D. I may create a MO for it once released.Stay tune.That would be awesome! I know a lot of people that would buy a 103 and 203 this way. Do you have more information?
Okay, the "boss man" himself havr finally responded...I have asked him to make a post here soon to help clarify what actually happened for the last few days...including no answer to phone calls from customers and perhaps to share what he is been busy all these while. Bottom line is, SLT is still very much "alive" ...hopefully this will instil some level of confidence to existing customers here.
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The issue is, will they be bringing in the 203 and 205?Don't ask me, call SLT to find out more.
I called SLT for the last 4 days and no one answer. What is happening ?Apologies, but we haven't visited Xtremeplace for long time - thanks to Bro Desray for notifying us. We mostly use our Facebook pages nowadays (https://www.facebook.com/SLTTechnologiesSG/ and https://www.facebook.com/slttechindo/). Our phone line (67023328) has been working fine, we get many calls everyday - not sure why you couldn't call in, may we know what number you have been calling the last 4 days? As for our company, we are doing fine. 203 & 205 targeted arriving January 2018. As for Nick, his replacement arriving January 2018 too. And Nick left us on very good terms, absolutely nothing to do with what has been wrongly said about it. Just check with Nick if you don't believe :-)
Apologies, but we haven't visited Xtremeplace for long time - thanks to Bro Desray for notifying us. We mostly use our Facebook pages nowadays (https://www.facebook.com/SLTTechnologiesSG/). Our phone line (67023328) has been working fine, we get many calls everyday - not sure why you couldn't call in, may we know what number you have been calling the last 4 days? As for our company, we are doing fine. 203 & 205 targeted arriving January 2018. As for Nick, his replacement arriving January 2018 too. And Nick left us on very good terms, absolutely nothing to do with what has been wrongly said about it. Just check with Nick if you don't believe :-)Thks SLT for clearing the air.
203 & 205 targeted arriving January 2018.
Can you use the 205 as an AV preamp to directly drive an amplifier?Some folks here do that..
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Check with sound affairs. They are the new dealers. I understand there's an launch promo now.Took over from SLT?
Hi all,
I am James Soh from Sound Affairs Pte Ltd.
We are happy to announce that we are appointed by OPPO as Distributor for OPPO Digital Products (UDP-203 / UDP-205 / Sonica DAC) for the Singapore Market from now onwards.
Stocks of 203 / 205 / Sonica DAC are now in Singapore and available from us.
We are also having a Re-Launch Promotion for OPPO digital products, with bundled deals and launch offer as well. (Limited Stocks)
More details will be coming soon but do contact us if you have any questions at this point in time.
Thanks!
James.
Nice bro, local set?
You must be the first!
Can you use the 205 as an AV preamp to directly drive an amplifier?
Yes 205 can be use as preamp to drive power amp,I'm using 105 to do that and today just got the 205 set-up is same as 105 u can combine the stereo/multi-ch output use the stereo pair for FL/R,SRL/R SRBL/R and sub wire to the multi-ch output for 7.1 system this way u using both 9038 pro dac chip in the player.Only downside is can't do atmos/dts-x plus no room correction/eq.
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Thanks. I just tried. I only have a pair of front speakers. I use Oppo 105 and down mixed everything to LT/RT mode to drive my amp and the front speakers. Sound not as powerful as I hoped. Maybe I still need an AV receiver/amp somewhere in the chain.
Thanks. I just tried. I only have a pair of front speakers. I use Oppo 105 and down mixed everything to LT/RT mode to drive my amp and the front speakers. Sound not as powerful as I hoped. Maybe I still need an AV receiver/amp somewhere in the chain.You are using the digital volume control in OPPO - in my experience, it sounds softer compared against a separate stereo preamp or AVP which is in between the player and amp.
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Is the DVD player Region 1 or Region 3 on the Oppo 203 and 205 sold by Sound Affairs?I have posted a link previously to a Superdisc Iso, it's a free download that gives all Oppos code free access for DVDs.
You are using the digital volume control in OPPO - in my experience, it sounds softer compared against a separate stereo preamp or AVP which is in between the player and amp.That maybe it. Soft indeed compared to using my regular preamp to drive the amps in my 2-channel music setup.
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I have posted a link previously to a Superdisc Iso, it's a free download that gives all Oppos code free access for DVDs.Thank you. I just downloaded from the Oppo AU website. Will use if (when?) I get an Oppo 203 or 205!
That maybe it. Soft indeed compared to using my regular preamp to drive the amps in my 2-channel music setup.Hi are u using the dedicated stereo pair output(with xlr/rca)? Try use the xlr output and set to downmix stereo on audio processing for xlr this will bypass all speaker configuration give u full signal output to amp plus give u 6db more gain over rca. I agree with Doggie that the input sensitivity of amp/speaker matching are the key. Hope this help.
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Hi are u using the dedicated stereo pair output(with xlr/rca)? Try use the xlr output and set to downmix stereo on audio processing for xlr this will bypass all speaker configuration give u full signal output to amp plus give u 6db more gain over rca. I agree with Doggie that the input sensitivity of amp/speaker matching are the key. Hope this help.Tks for advice. No I use RCA from the FR and FL audio out to the RCA inputs of my power amps. The only xlr inputs on my power amps are already used up by my preamp for music.
My unit transported safely to HK last evening:-
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Thanks James!!
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Can the 205 be used to rip SACDs?
say yes... there will be a frenzy to buy 205. ;D
You also got Laser 4K projector, you ought to buy one too....
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Thks SLT for clearing the air.
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Set is a Taiwan set, if u wanna upgrade your firmware, u need to download from Oppo Taiwan... reset it back to English if desired...
The Chinese sets gives buyers the options with firmware JB opportunity from other sources with an older firmware
Just came back from a shop selling oppo that can play full iso files and hvec files. Is it true that these players are already capable of doing that?
Yes. It's in Singapore and it's region free.Are you saying that James selling region free Oppo Players? That's good, but it's news to me..
Glad to know that its been resolved...By “right”, the Auto setting helps to do a proper negotiation between the player and the projector. For instance, 4:2:0 at 8bit is the baseline...it will transmit the signal to raw to the projector to do proper upscaling if you choose to use Source as output instead of Custom UHD setting as it sent out an interlace signal (lower bandwidth required) over to the long HDMI cable (apparently your HDMI not that good - it may not even be HDMI 2.0 compliant). By setting 4:2:2 at 8/10bit is the best as baseline conversion from 4:2:0 to 4:2:2 can be processed on your Oppo before transmitting it to the Epson projector to do a 4:4:4. If your cable quality or bandwidth (due to long distance covered) not up to the task, it will result in blank out or snowy static picture.
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So is it better to let the oppo 203 do the upscaling for 1080p to 4k or let the PJ do that? Is there significant diff? Also, how do you tell if the PJ is projecting upscaled 1080p? For my Sony 4K PJ, the info settings only show what the PJ is capable of displaying. Will not show you what is really output.More often than not, projector on board upscaling will do a much better job than the player itself. Like I mentioned, it depends on the quality of the cable when sending the extra bits of information when internal upscaling performed at the player level.
So is it better to let the oppo 203 do the upscaling for 1080p to 4k or let the PJ do that? Is there significant diff? Also, how do you tell if the PJ is projecting upscaled 1080p? For my Sony 4K PJ, the info settings only show what the PJ is capable of displaying. Will not show you what is really output.
So, far, the best upscaling I have seen is done by Sony projector onboard , just make sure your Reality Creation setting is "On". Set your player to play at native resolution. This is in line with Desray's observation as well.
If you press Menu on your Sony projector remote, and then in the menu, you scroll to the last item at the bottom, you will see the the resolution that is being output to your projector from your source, together with your projector lamp hours. In this example, it shows 3840 X 2160 24 frames per second.
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if u guys need the hardware region free hardware, I have it for sale.
it will work for models from 93, 95, 103, 103D, 105, 105D 203 n 205.
I can install it for u.
the models that will require more work, will be the 105, 105D, n 205..
as I have to remove the power board n analog board too..
if it's the "3" series, it super simple to install.
Where is the link to get from James?
Silly question....
Just wanna know what Video Custom Resolution settings you all are using for the 203.
I set mine as UHD Auto but most online review/setup recommended setting 1080p Auto.
Am using LG 65" OLED 2016 model and most of my settings on the 203 are Auto by default.
For Audio settings, I selected Bitstream instead of Auto though
Anyway, my BD collection are all 4K UHD....
Does HDMI output from 205 use the built in DAC for audio processing ? Or do we need the analog or XLR output to use the built in DAC for audio processing ?I'm sure you would have to use the analogue or XLR as the hdmi will just pass a digital stream to amp and then the amps DAC would be used.
I am rather surprised if 1080p setting is recommended for 4k. Therefore I am interested in the context of how users come to that setting, my guess is that would be the ideal setting for BD.
To get UHD quality, I set mine to UHD 24 for 4k. So far all the 4k In my collection have that specs except for Billy Lynn.
I think the Oppo menu is in 1080p
Setting it to 4K24 means that it would work for most 4K movies and minimise sync times with some projectors like the JVC
Hmm I tried using the Oppo to play some UHD HEVC 2160p clips with Atmos soundtracks.
But it didn’t pass through the audio.
It said MLP.
Yes in MKV formatThen it is not a surprise Liao...this is a known issue...despite notifying Oppo about it, the engineers didn't think that it is a bug. I gave up long long time ago...only way to get over it, get a media player instead and in my case, the PCH A500.
Then it is not a surprise Liao...this is a known issue...despite notifying Oppo about it, the engineers didn't think that it is a bug. I gave up long long time ago...only way to get over it, get a media player instead and in my case, the PCH A500.
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So PCH or Agreat?
So what PC chipset can play H.265 and HEVC
I guess I should have specified that I was looking to output HDR 2160p with Atmos
My old HTPC already does Atmos passthrough over HDMI So was surprised the newer Oppo didn’t.
The Oppo is not a PC.But it is a media player which claims a lot of things.
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Hmm I tried using the Oppo to play some UHD HEVC 2160p clips with Atmos soundtracks.
But it didn’t pass through the audio.
It said MLP.
I’m on the latest beta with HDR to SDR conversion.
All files from what I gathered. Are you on a jailbreak firmware?
Isn’t Thor on DTSHDMA only?
Maybe it is my file.
I did notice mine said MLP when I opened an Atmos file
Nothing wrong with your file. It’s perfectly fine. I suspect it could be due to the AVR not having the latest EDID specification for Atmos....all equipment need to conform to this standard for it to work properly
Nothing wrong with your file. It’s perfectly fine. I suspect it could be due to the AVR not having the latest EDID specification for Atmos....all equipment need to conform to this standard for it to work properly
Bro, there is no such thing as EDID for Atmos...EDID is related to Display Information signal send out from source to display. Atmos is an audio container, there is no link or connection to EDID.
Anyway back to the question of Dolby Atmos not able to be played back on Oppo, I have tried many times in the past and some mkv able to playback Dolby Atmos track just fine - for instance, if you download a test clip from Dolby website which was encoded in mkv format, it can actually playback fine on Oppo UDP-203 with no issue...but for some, it won't. This led me to believe that encoding could be issue. If we do a remux using say mkvmerge (MKNVToolNix) and make it m2ts, it sometimes work, sometimes don't...The only way Dolby Atmos work is to have the movie encoded in BD ISO or BDMV file structure...The point here is Dolby Atmos in mkv is a hit or miss thing for Oppo...because there is too many issues related to compatibility.
exactly what i thought and i actually told the LG engineer off in Singapore for taking the easy way out and pushing the blame to Onkyo without any evidence. Back then i was troubleshooting an issue on Dolby Atmos not playing vide netflix to AVR. I was convinced it was a Netflix or an LG issue. They later troubleshoot and escalated the issue to LG Korea and found that the firmware of the AVR was the culprit. I was told by LG engineers in Korea that they have this EDID standard that somehow affects the Audio Return channel, and that is causing the Dolby Atmos passthrough to fail on the AVR. At the same time they confirmed that denon has a similar issue. Yamaha AVRs were working fine and certain models of Onkyo working fine, which is why i am checking if doggie is using a Denon. They helped me write in to Onkyo to explain the cause and Onkyo promised a release firmware upgrade on 31st Jan18. True enough, after the firmware update on the RZ5100, everything works like a charm. Be it netflix atmos, ARC, Remux on oppo, everything pass through without issues.
Doggie may wanna try this:
1.after firmware update, reset to factory default
2. Erase persistent storage
3. Connect using a single HDMI straight from Oppo to AvR.
4. Switch off ARC on avr.
Done firmware update. Erase persistent storage.
MLP Atmos.
But sending out MPCM 7.1.
I'll give it another go but pretty sure CEC is off and I doubt factory reset would make a difference
Haha...still haven't give up ah?! Change AVR
Done firmware update. Erase persistent storage.
MLP Atmos.
But sending out MPCM 7.1.
My display says Atmos so I would assume it works. I am using stereo, prior to the firmware update, the sound was distorted.
very good info on how the oppo can play media files... Thanks for this guys.
Can i get some advice from everyone...
I was at first thinking to get the media player (zidoo or egreat or himedia).
But, i was also looking out for a Oppo 203 (need to play 4k BD discs) and understand the 203 can play media files too.
Can the oppo 203 play all types of media/downloaded files as well as a media player like the zidoo or egreat or himedia?
If it's worse, I will just get a media player.
If yes, i can save some monies and just buy the 203 only
Thanks desray.
Looks like it's straight forward then =)
Just placed an order for the Zidoo X9S
Great...I'm sure Zidoo X9S will be a great media player.
Unless you just want to playback 4K UHD discs...otherwise I will advise against getting the Oppo for media file playback.why do you say this? my experience with the 203 is that it is perfectly capable of playing media files, just that the GUI to do so is extremely basic.
why do you say this? my experience with the 203 is that it is perfectly capable of playing media files, just that the GUI to do so is extremely basic.
thanks for all the advice desray and other bros who have helped me in one way or another.Make sure you read up Wilbur's thread on Zidoo X9S and post your queries there so that he and other owners can help you if you ever encounter any setup issues.
can't wait for it to arrive! cheers
Wacko, it is one thing to know what a device is capable of doing versus the QUALITY and RELIABILITY (compatibility issues aplenty and arise if the encoder cannot be read) of doing it consistently with good results. Sure we can use a DVD player like Shinco to playback MP3 files or even a music CD but that does not mean I have to use it playback CD. For better quality and listening experience, one may wish to use a dedicated CD player to play the CD for it's obvious benefits. This analogy, though old but still gold applies to the playback of media players vs a universal Bluray player which is able to fulfil the same function as a media player but based on my experience, a dedicated media player and a good one i mean will yield better user and playback quality for MEDIA file consumption in the likes of 1080p movies encoded in MKV or MP4 formats to name a few of the more prominent ones. Of course YMMV.MKV and MP4 are containers, not encoding formats.
Hope it clears up...
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MKV and MP4 are containers, not encoding formats.
in the absence of any comparative reviews, let's just go along with the theory of it. step 1 of playing a media file is to decode it. once decoded, bits and bytes wise the video is exactly the same, irrespective of which device decoded it. and then there is post-processing done on the video, and that is essentially where you are saying an egreat will have better video post processing capability than a 203. somehow I doubt that...
in the absence of any comparative reviews, let's just go along with the theory of it. step 1 of playing a media file is to decode it. once decoded, bits and bytes wise the video is exactly the same, irrespective of which device decoded it. and then there is post-processing done on the video, and that is essentially where you are saying an egreat will have better video post processing capability than a 203. somehow I doubt that...+1 i shocked with that theory as well. I owned x9s as well, but i wont use it to watch any bd format instead my 9700.
+1 i shocked with that theory as well. I owned x9s as well, but i wont use it to watch any bd format instead my 9700.
Wow even with RCA connection, listening to CDs on the 205 there is significant difference as compared to the 203
Very clear and musical. The music seems to jump out at you with very nice soundstage
Pity my integrated stereo amp dun have XLR connections
Am sure XLR connection will sound better
Listening to my CDs all over again
For the 205’s bros, do you guys use the analog out or hdmi to take advantage of the DAC? Not sure if hdmi out will use the DAC for processing as well.
I am seriously thinking of using my spare RCA interconnects to wire up the 205 to my Marantz 8802A via analog. From what I heard on stereo with the ESS9038PRO chip, it had given me this idea of running multichannel streaming from all the SACDs that I had already ripped. I truly believe this could sound better than using the Marantz DAC via HDMI.Try it bro!
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For the 205’s bros, do you guys use the analog out or hdmi to take advantage of the DAC? Not sure if hdmi out will use the DAC for processing as well.
If you guys buy the 205, you definitely should be using analogue out instead to utilize the DAC chip inside the 205 instead of the DAC in your receiver.
The 205's main and perhaps only real advantage over the 203 is all in the audio capabilities. Movies wise is same for video quality.
205 now cost $2400 by Sound Affairs at Shaw towers.
my own impressions are that even on the 203/ 103, music (to my ears) sounds more musical and natural on the analogue RCA outputs VS using the HDMI.
Did the 7.1 out for sacds and ht before. Yep it sounds very good
The DAC is well implemented.
When u using hdmi u're using the avr/avp dac not the oppo dac. To my understanding even when u are using analog out to connect to a avr/avp/preamp if u apply eq/room correction the signal need to be re-digital in order to apply eq/room correction n convert back to analog again by the avr/avp/preamp dac to output to power amp.So if u want to know how the oppo dac sound is to connect directly to power amp but need to set the output volume to variable n start low at 30-40 to prevent damage your speaker. In the other hand u can set the avr/avp/preamp to bypass/source direct but the signal go through one more device not direct from oppo.
Please correct me as I might be wrong on the da/ad/da part on the avr/avp/preamp.
Thanks.
Super good the dac compared to the one I’m using on Onkyo rz5100 processor. Day and night.Maybe you can post on how to hook up your system to fully utilize the internal DACs?
If not using Atmos, this method of connection for 7.1 is highly recommended
Another thing is the lfe channel doesn’t have a 10db alignment gain like the avr. So to use the Oppo 205 as a preamp, one would need to reduce the trims of all channels by -10db or increase the LfE channel trim by 10db, if connecting directly to power amp
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For the record, it is not the SABRE DACs are world class. It is that the 9038s are world class. Not the 9028, not the 9018/9016 etc.
Maybe you can post on how to hook up your system to fully utilize the internal DACs?
Cheers
Super good the dac compared to the one I’m using on Onkyo rz5100 processor. Day and night.
If not using Atmos, this method of connection for 7.1 is highly recommended
Another thing is the lfe channel doesn’t have a 10db alignment gain like the avr. So to use the Oppo 205 as a preamp, one would need to reduce the trims of all channels by -10db or increase the LfE channel trim by 10db, if connecting directly to power amp
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Yes that how I run my ht since using the 105 and replace it with the 205.To me the improvement on the sq when listening to music over the 105 well worth the price different of $480 between the two.Blu-ray rip mkv movie pq also look better on the 205 plus due to the sq improvement watching same movie again is like watching a new movie.Very nice. I see your points.
On the sub out part u have to set the level 10bd more using cal. disc I'm using the Spears & Munsil 2nd edition disc. Take note that due to we normally set all speaker to small one have to add 5db more to sub level as the oppo will cut down 5db if any speaker is set to small for headroom.This is if u are using the 205 same as me as a preamp/processor.
If u want more detail can refer to AVS forum oppo 205 thread pg 10 there's a oppo beta tester name Bob B. I follow his post since oppo 105 n tested on 105 with good result so not using any avr/avp/preamp afer that.
For music do try out the digital filter mini phase slow sound more clean to me so I'm using it default is mini phase fast.
Very nice. I see your points.
1. Benefit from pic is mainly because u r using Oppo directly to the pj or tv? In my experience, this is much better than going through the video card from the avr. The tv has got a better video chip, anytime, with same year of make
2. Have u come across a solution For Atmos using internal DAC on Oppo?
3. +10db alignment is needed because the mkv rips and bluray’s LfE channels are recorded 10db louder. The AVR’s internal trim controls provides for this 10db alignment but the Oppo 205 doesn’t. That is why this needs to be adjusted +10 dB on Oppo LfE channel.
4. For the 5db alignment, that would not be correct. As the signal comes in, the level is now 15db more than the mains. If you want to take advantage of the headroom, then that 5db gain should be adjusted at the sub amplifier, to compensate for the digital headroom, IF you are using the bass management from Oppo 205.
5. I don’t use the bass management from the Oppo 205. I set the oppo205 to full range. I use the ddrc88a bass management, that gives me the ability to not only use the dac but also set individual and group delays and level matching of all speakers with room EQ Dirac. Much more capable.
If you love the 7.1 with Oppo 205, then u should get a ddrc88a, very good. U can still use xlr out for stereo, 1 stone hit many birds
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Very nice . I have just learnt about this awesomeness on the Oppo 205. ...Its abt how many stage the initial recorded information in a disc is delivered eventually to ur ear... To make it simple to understand, how DACs in between different gears processes the audio 1s n 0s that hv effects on how the final audio visual experience is get at the final stage.
Very nice . I have just learnt about this awesomeness on the Oppo 205. For a moment there I was like... wait a sec... should I downgrade to 7.4? It’s that good
So there is an internal 5db trim on the Oppo LFE if bass management is in use.... ahhh, no wonder, because I didn’t use the bass management in Oppo 205. I used the BM in ddrc88a
Gosh, hope Oppo comes out with one that has 7.1.4 for Atmos, that would be great
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One more thing to get the best out of your 205 to play music is to rip all your cd/sacd/dvd-audio to hdd n playback using the usb3.0 port,I found it sound better then playing the disc itself plus can use the oppo media control app to select n play no need to change disc can play any file inside the hdd.
Yes I also hope one day oppo can do 7.1.4 ch analog output.
I may not be using any highend playing source, i m still happy to enjoy what i get from the source, thru cables n lines n eventually the amplification stage as well as the speakers at the end.
For the record, it is not the SABRE DACs are world class. It is that the 9038s are world class. Not the 9028, not the 9018/9016 etc.
9038Pro has customisable FIR filter & 140dB DNR, very different league.
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Which DAC uses Sabre 9038s besides Oppo Sonica and their latest 105/205? I wonder if the 9038 makes a huge difference in performance.
For < $3k DAC, not many brands. The latest Mytek Brooklyn+ also does not use 9038.
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The Yamaha 3070 uses the Sabre pro dac 9026 pro, this should be good, but not sure if it is in the same league as the 9038 pro. But I think it won’t be far off. Seems like Yamaha is one I can consider down the road
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9026 is not the same as the 9038. Far from it.
I’ve heard the Yamaha AVRs and consistently prefer the AKM4458s used in the Marantz 6012 And also the integra DRX4.
Which DAC uses Sabre 9038s besides Oppo Sonica and their latest 105/205? I wonder if the 9038 makes a huge difference in performance.
For < $3k DAC, not many brands. The latest Mytek Brooklyn+ also does not use 9038.
Bro, u r very wise indeed to take this route, take full advantage of the 205 dac. There is no need for an avr if only 7.1 is required. Save $$ on avr.
U should try this with 1 unit ddrc88a using Dirac live eq. When u use this with the 7.1 channels EQ with Dirac, the group delays for 7.1, channel levels, phase,bass management, full range EQ with target curves will bring your entire system up to another level, trust me if U have taken this route, u must get the ddrc88a to pair with this for the 7.1, TOP class HT system pair. Not very expensive comparing to the high end Dirac capable avr, of course those can do atmos and this can’t, the only downside
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Bro u are right buying 205 over 203 is to make full use on the dacs n analog output.Might have to demo your system see how it work but from their website seem like need avr/avp to connect to the ddrc88a n no xlr input/output.
On the atmos part if your avr can cal. only the overhead speaker can u combine it with the ddrc88a 7.1 ch? Only problem I see is u have to due with 2 volume control.
Farewell
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As our latest 4K UHD players reach the pinnacle of their performance, it is time to say goodbye. We are proud to have made such well-regarded products and to have served the enthusiast community. Without our customers' suggestions, encouragement, and support, we could not have accomplished these achievements.
Though OPPO Digital will gradually stop manufacturing new products, existing products will continue to be supported, warranties will still be valid, and both in-warranty and out-of-warranty repair services will continue to be available. Firmware will continue to be maintained and updates released from time to time. Customers can rest assured that they will continue to receive the high quality service and support that they have come to expect from OPPO Digital.
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As announced on April 2nd, 2018, OPPO Digital will gradually stop manufacturing new products. Existing products will continue to be supported, warranties will still be valid, and both in-warranty and out-of-warranty repair services will continue to be available. Firmware will continue to be maintained and updates released from time to time. Customers can rest assured that they will continue to receive the high quality service and support that they have come to expect from OPPO Digital. The following FAQ provides answers to questions that may arise from the announcement.
How do I receive technical support for my OPPO product?
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Which shop selling now?Sound Affairs
...so long they continue to keep production line running for 203 and 205, the value of these 2 players will/should... retain.The OPPO Digital product company is registered in U.S. if i'm not wrong on assumption?
i guess thats it. no new products means no more revenue coming in and expect current product line to continue selling. a very high up decision. the chase to create new products has proven to be very taxing as each time each product matures. so long they continue to keep production line running for 203 and 205, the value of these 2 players will/should... retain.That depends on whether the Firmware keeps up too..
The OPPO Digital product company is registered in U.S. if i'm not wrong on assumption?ah i believe so. so bring back production plant to the proud US of A. its been so long we had made in USA products.
Trump's taxing policies affects companies, that manufactures their products in China, send back to U.S. for market wide sale, right? So... if a company's earning going to be affected in such a way... Wouldn't it be more efficient to wind up the company in U.S. re-set up in other country and relaunch their product under different brand, riding on their old brand product reputation?
ah i believe so. so bring back production plant to the proud US of A. its been so long we had made in USA products.Haaa... A CD player made in US of A oredi commands mid 4 digit figures liaoz... BluRay? Be expect a pricing like Runco or Theta during laserdisc time lo...
Bro u are right buying 205 over 203 is to make full use on the dacs n analog output.Might have to demo your system see how it work but from their website seem like need avr/avp to connect to the ddrc88a n no xlr input/output.
On the atmos part if your avr can cal. only the overhead speaker can u combine it with the ddrc88a 7.1 ch? Only problem I see is u have to due with 2 volume control.
hey bro, you can drop if you wish on the 28th Apr18, im free the whole weekend. I am following you, am downgrading from atmos to go 7.4 + crowsons. still find that the combination of the Sabre 9038 + DDRC-88a Dirac is just unbelievably too good. Totally out of this world i am willing to scarifice the atmos overheads. Ill wait patiently until we see one well design unit AVR with Dirac and Pro Sabre dac... long wait i suppose, but im finally happy with this combination, match made in heaven indeed.
Sure bro,will pm u if I'm going.Like I said b4 a good/properly setup 7.4 system is 80% done for ht overhead speakers are side dish,was surprise that u need the crowsons while u have 4X Seaton F18s.
I plan to use my OPPO 205 as long as it last as it's damn good was thinking to buy 1 more for spare as I need the multi-ch analog output for multi-ch SACD/DVA-A(both 5.1) & dts-cd(in 6.1 ch) music files.I'm 70%/30% music/ht my main usage are music file playback.The way I use the 205 there's no other player that can replace the 205 in my setup.For those who have setup the 205 like u & me they will know how good it sound,for $2.3k you've a very good dac+disc/media player nothing more I can ask for.Hopefully in the next few yrs there's some thing better coming out.
Do you do discrete on 5.1 music for 205? My issue is that most new AVR does not allow discrete RCA/balance Inputs.
oppo digital said bye bye :(
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For those keen to use Oppo 205 7.1 with Dirac Live room correction, here is how you can do it. This method takes advantage of the internal Sabre Pro9038 DAC. This DAC uses a precision Seiko custom-built Surface Acoustic Wave (SAW) oscillator clock eliminating timing errors, superior ultra low jitter with excellent phase noise performance. This results in a "Top Class" 7.1 HT system.You can read up more on this. https://www.oppodigital.com/KnowledgeBase.aspx?KBID=129&ProdID=UDP-205.
Downside is you cannot enjoy Dolby Atmos and DTS:X, it will be downmixed to TruHD & DTS-HD MA
Dont get me wrong, Atmos and DTS:X is the way to go. But until i come across an AVR/Processor with this quality, ill just stick to 7.1
So here is how:
1. Connect All analog outs to the DDRC-88a RCA in
2. Set output to PCM 192k on the Oppo 205.
3. Set all speakers to Large in the Oppo 205, trims 0, distance 0 (screen shots), 7.1 if u using 7 speakers
4. Connect the Main HDMI on oppo to HDMI ARC on TV (for Netflix and YouTube 5.1). Again no atmos for Netflix. When using this, use Audio in button on the Oppo to toggle for ARC. TV out use HDMI ARC, tv will send that 5.1 signal to oppo
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1A3jV3vMPtpiOQKleYYXAgw6B1ycSpDcd)
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1M36VA11eq2kjmmFJPJlJRW-xa73lw0Lf)
Done on Oppo 205. Straight forward indeed. Now comes DDRC-88a
1.First run Dirac EQ on all speakers including Subs using 7.1 configuration. (There is no need to turn on Oppo 205). Reason for using 7.1 is because Dirac will configure for a 10db alignment gain on the LFE track. So u must use this because the Oppo doesnt provide for this alignment unlike the normal AVR
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1t22wkk38SAlMECycC2Y2VRNfrqlYvLdf)
2. DDRC does the time alignment and group delays for all 8 channels inc sub, Level matching of Mains and Crossover optimisation between subs and mains, this is the benefit of DDRC-88a, providing mixed phased EQ in the process and superior soundstange and imaging from all 8 channels. You can set your target curves etc, that is a separate topic altogether
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1MUj-YpYZn26elPIetLrEjo5Yn-1Lk6v_)
3. Configure bass management in DDRC. Because the LFE channel is recorded 10db louder than the rest of the channels and in order to maintain the channel balance in bass management module, you will need to reduce the mains by -10 on the DDRC bass management tab as below. The Oppo's internal trim setting does not provide for this 10db alignment gain, hence u need to set it on the Bass management module when the signal arrives.
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1go5QuPwsfMr6V92zFIi9Pf4pO6DFzdV2)
4.Turn on bass management on routing tab. Turn On LFE mgt it will show 0 db, off LFE in 1 on Dirac 3 (sub channel) as below
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1cO8YomgP6_3Mk17FiC_J0WTQ6e4FI-ik)
5. Set your Speakers Crossover(depends you need to measure).Good start 80hz 24db LinkwitzRiley. Set the LFE to 120Hz LP butterworth filter. There is no need for High pass, can be set to bypass
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1kQOGJQH45JeaNMTubOZrG84nP7_UClou)
6. Here is how it looks at the output tab.I have the crowson actuator added on to this. You can also add any bass shakers etc.
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1w2-J0PIz1MwJGTKz8Q0kRLNUYDi6mBDe)
7. I have also added a high shelf filter for the crowsons actuator. bro ngsk was asking me why. its very good now you can add high pass and a high shelf filter.At 40hz gain is -5, 30hz -4, and 20hz -3... so on. Very natural indeed. Low pass 40hz
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=17PChLYxmWjP2h7OvCNJmUYXEJaWDTErB)
i am absolutely thrilled with this set up. 7.4 with actuators. I finally am happy with what i am hearing. I finally know what im seeking in my future upgrade for atmos and the sound signature and details i love. Eye opener indeed.For music, ive left it un-EQed, with the XLR stereo out directly to my XPA-1 balanced connections. HT uses unbalanced RCA. Do not be concerned with the DDRC-88a going through a digital analog conversion. The benefit of implementing Dirac for HT far outweighs the concern for DA conversion, especially for HT. EQ full range, Group delay and time alignment is much more important for a superior soundstage and imaging, including blending of mains with subs.
Enjoy!
Nice...
If u sacrificed your Atmos channels for this , shows how good it is man.
I had a question for any oppo 205 user here....as i upcoming will grab one oppo 205 would like to ask if there is any difference in sound quality if i use a normal hdmi cable from HDMI audio out vs a maybe a nordost heimdall 2 hdmi as i heard from some hk audiophiles for audio hdmi there is difference but image not so anyone can clarify this?
I had a question for any oppo 205 user here....as i upcoming will grab one oppo 205 would like to ask if there is any difference in sound quality if i use a normal hdmi cable from HDMI audio out vs a maybe a nordost heimdall 2 hdmi as i heard from some hk audiophiles for audio hdmi there is difference but image not so anyone can clarify this?
If u are going to use hdmi for music you're no going to make use of the 205 dual 9038 pro dac chip,it's a waste IMO.For analog out the 205 is a step up form the 105.
Audio through HDMI is digitally encoded, it should make no difference to sound quality between cables.
For 1 0PP0 player can't play bdmv but there's a way to play search avs forum for it as I don't rip my bd to that. If your's is jb one don't understand also. For 2&3 try use wire connection or plug the hdd to the 203 usb port directly,my network is fiber 500mb one directly wire connected to the C7 also got buffer when using the C7 Dolby app to play dv demo clip. For 4 download the media control app to your phone n can select what u what to play with it.
Just beware the 203 is not a streamer n the streamer pq is no where near the OPPO player than u will be happy with it.Ya. Understand that. If any of the issues can be resolved that would be a bonus to me.
BDMV is still working on 20X player last I read on avs forum search the first pg of 103 or 105 player owner thread look for Unofficial BDP-103 FAQ on top in there look for How do you play Blu-ray ISO files over SMB?I'm not too sure actually. It auto detected my NAS when I go into Network.
Can't help as plug hdd into 205 directly n rip bd to mkv only,by the way saw u using Rythmik subs also.Yes. LVX12 x 2. Unfortunately, my room is too small. So front LR is the only position for me.
Did u accidentally on the energy saving mode on the C7? If so it might try to adjust brightness when switch from sdr to hdr.Energy saving mode is off.
Will check my 205 & C7 hdr setting tonight n see what is miss out.Thanks bro!
Are you using the Oppo to play or are you using an application in the win 10 computer to play? Did the timeline on your player move with the track time counter increasing?
Take some screen shots to share with us please.
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Did you select Oppo's DAC input? Increase the volume in Oppo? Also, make sure the volume in Oppo is not set to 100/fixed. Do check your computer's audio output is pointed to Oppo DAC.
What he mean is have u select no.6.USB AUDIO IN using the input button on 205 remote,this will ensure u are connected to the usb type b input on the 205 from pc. Also make sure u set your vol. on 205 to variable n start at lower vol. eg. 30~40 to avoid damage your speaker or amp.
You can dl the hack on Oppo Australia website for 203 to play region free dvd. Just need to Google.
No idea how the 105 vs 203 analog is but I can assure u the 205 analog is miles ahead of the 203. Price is almost double.
We will be doing a shootout soon this month to compare 203 mod, vs 205 unmod, vs 205 mod. Will post our findings soon
FYI,new official fw UDP20XTW-60-0625 is up at OPPO Taiwan website.
Despite updating my 203 to the latest firmware, I still can't get Dolby Vision going on my OLED E6. It keeps enabling HDR10 only. Not sure what I'm doing wrong. Is it a bug?Tried playing Spider-Man 4k UHD, with the 203 set to player-led mode. Got jumbled images on my LG E6....
I Use tv led processing, ignore the player led processing,always better, so far the video card in the tv is much better, relieve the Oppo 205 of this processing duty, let the 205 work hard on producing the best audioMay I know how do you select which one to use? I'm using C7 and 203. Thanks
May I know how do you select which one to use? I'm using C7 and 203. Thanks
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Please take note this only workable on disc base media blu-ray disc or 4k uhd disc not media file like mkv file etc.
Bro, seems to work on my bluray ripped in to MKV remux version....
"then under HDR settings, there is a new feature to turn on Dolby vision processing, "
Bro Ronildoq, is this setting on the tv, or on the OPPO?
Use tv led processing if u r on C7 LG, it doesn’t affect you, then under HDR settings, there is a new feature to turn on Dolby vision processing, what it does is it will up convert the normal bluray to Dolby vision mode whenever possible. The precalibrated factory default settings on the c7 for Dolby vision seems nicer than the normal cinema mode , when playing normal bluray content without any HDR metadata in itThanks bro!
Thanks bro!
Didn't notice there is a DV processing option.
Will check it out later.
Weird! I don't see the DV processing option when I played a normal bluray. Have checked that my TV is on the latest firmware.
May I know exactly where is it? Thanks
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Did u get it?All setting are @video setup setting on the OPPO under HDR setting set it to Dolby Vision.Oh oh. I was looking for it in my C7
Oh oh. I was looking for it in my C7
Thanks bro!
I didn't upgrade to the latest firmware because mine is the jailbreak version.
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That is why I didn’t go for JB.... cos still have so many upgrades ,I stick to the remux MKV version, never been happier
Yes,mkv is what I used to back up blu-ray as it skip all the warning/preview etc can select to keep 1 audio track n 1 subtitle save lots of space,directly play the movie when hit play save some time for that also.
So how is your 2.4 music listening impression with the 205/Seaton F18s n minidsp?
Set is a Taiwan set, if u wanna upgrade your firmware, u need to download from Oppo Taiwan... reset it back to English if desired...
The Chinese sets gives buyers the options with firmware JB opportunity from other sources with an older firmware
Actively looking for a 4K UHD player. Oppo highly regarded but super expensive. Is it really worth it? Can get by with a Sony or Samsung for comparable picture quality? I have an Oppo 105D that cost me an arm n leg. Have never tried other makes.
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For media file Playback better to buy regular media players that can support bitstream and H265 hdr material
Does the 203 play h.265 codec movie files from a portable hard disk plug into the USB port of the 203?
Yes it does, it is able to pass through h265 to your avr, dtsx, atmos, Dolby vision, HDR no issues if your avr supports these features
Instead i find the UHD disc sometimes having playback issues, especially the newer disc, I suppose some compatibility issues. But Oppo support has been excellent, theyget down to the issue and fix it, so far they are still doing the job, despite the fact they have no intentions to continue the business
Sure. As long as you don’t mind not having Dolby Atmos or DTS X
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Yes it does, it is able to pass through h265 to your avr, dtsx, atmos, Dolby vision, HDR no issues if your avr supports these features
Instead i find the UHD disc sometimes having playback issues, especially the newer disc, I suppose some compatibility issues. But Oppo support has been excellent, theyget down to the issue and fix it, so far they are still doing the job, despite the fact they have no intentions to continue the business
Thanks for sharing.
How does Oppo solve playback issues on proper disc?
I suppose they collect samples from various disc. They actually listen to consumers feedbacks
Normal disc so far so good, it is the UHD disc that sometimes have issues, newer ones especially, other than that, it’s excellent. Plays almost anything u throw at it....
What a pity this will be the end for Oppo bluray players... I was really hoping to see a 305 that does Atmos dtsx with Sabre 9038pro through analog out....
The main reason why I am getting the 203 is for the 4K disc. Hope most if not all the issues with 4K disc has been solved.
So you cannot play the disc u need to wait for firmware upgrade to solve the problem??
You can play the disc, but along the way, there are some issues in part of the scenes, then it skips, some of it u encounter floating blacks, like power ranger disc, then some of it dolby vision issue, fast furious disc, but these have mostly been solved on the new firmware....
With the latest firmware, so far all the disc playing good. I think we have a lot more UHD disc now. I also believe with every problem they face and the ability to solve it, will make it a better player. It is always the case, especially now it’s been around for more than a year, it has more or less stabilised
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I suppose they collect samples from various disc. They actually listen to consumers feedbacks
Normal disc so far so good, it is the UHD disc that sometimes have issues, newer ones especially, other than that, it’s excellent. Plays almost anything u throw at it....
What a pity this will be the end for Oppo bluray players... I was really hoping to see a 305 that does Atmos dtsx with Sabre 9038pro through analog out....
Base on this link : http://watershade.net/wmcclain/UDP-203-faq.html it said:"It does not work for interlaced sources like DVD or for media files like MKV. In my testing it did not work for 3D Blu-ray.'' I haven't got time to test my blu-ray rip mkv file very busy with the new subs. Since u test n it work I'll delete my previous post.This link is a very good source for all OPPO 20X player owner for information.
Currently the market hv only the Sony X700 as the competitor in the budget field... When PANASONIC's UB820 releases... it'll be interesting to see if OPPO's players will see a price drop or not!Wondering how the Panasonic will compare with Oppo 203, feature and PQ wise.
i bought a pre-loved 205 over the weekend. this is a local jailbroken set so it is from Taiwan. while the seller updated the player to the latest firmware UDP20X-60-0625, he did not update the USB DAC because he had no need for it.
i neglected to check this before buying :-\
when i went to Oppo Taiwan site, everything is in chinese so can some kind soul post some instructions that will enable me to update the USB DAC firmware please?
do the instructions found on the Oppo US site work on the Taiwan player?
https://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-udp-205/blu-ray-udp-205-Support.aspx (https://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-udp-205/blu-ray-udp-205-Support.aspx)
thank you for any help that you can give me :)
thanks Cash and Desray for sharing your opinion and especially to Desray for providing the translation. I can confirm that I was able to update the USB DAC firmware to version USB-0118. I followed the instructions which are posted here on the Oppo US site: https://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-udp-205/blu-ray-udp-205-Support.aspx
I am also happy to report that updating the USB DAC firmware did not defeat the jailbreak.
I do have an Egreat A10 that takes care of my downloaded media files. I need the jailbreak on the Oppo to play DVD and BD multi-region.
when I was doing my homework on the 205, I was told by the local authorised seller that there are two different types of jailbreak that you can get for the local sets that you buy in SG. what Desray mentioned is just one type - this is the one where you are pretty much locked-in to the firmware that comes pre-installed on the Oppo. the 2nd type - which is the one that I have - is the one that allows you to keep up with the official firmware updates but you have to sacrifice BD-ISO playback. since I have the A10, I decided to go for this one anyways.
with all due respect to Desray, I believe the instructions you posted are for updating the main firmware only - not the USB DAC. there are 2 separate update procedures for the main firmware and the USB DAC. the USB DAC update procedure requires you to run a tool that you can download from the Oppo US site.
thanks once again guys 😊👍
Objective measurements on the 205 plus some good read on how the digital filter work: http://archimago.blogspot.com/2018/06/measurements-oppo-udp-205-part-1-output.htmlPart 3 of the measurements can be found here: http://archimago.blogspot.com/2018/06/measurements-oppo-udp-205-part-3-jitter.html
http://archimago.blogspot.com/2018/06/measurements-oppo-udp-205-part-2.html
Just got my Oppo 203, bought mod kit and self upgrade to LPS version, changed IEC to silver cable, changed fuse to power house alpha 8000. PQ and SQ (especially SQ) jumped to another level.
Came with ver60 jb too.
(https://preview.ibb.co/npoe6p/88761_B41_8_D66_416_E_B5_D3_FB1792_C03_B45.jpg)
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(https://preview.ibb.co/fqQLCU/1_DF6_A084_269_C_4118_8_C14_22_C34_BC906_BE.jpg)
Is the improvement to another level on the analog connections or HDMi ?As you can see the analogue is dismantle as the power circuit is fully supply the juice to digital boards. If not AB compare i can say difficult to notice thru bare eye but the SQ is much improved from ori version. The punch is solid and soundstage wider. BTW, directional of fuse also important as different placement orientation can give different sound performancd.
I personally tested some modded versions, I didn’t find any significant improvement on the analog and hdmi out....in fact I found that the stock 205 is still miles ahead of the modified 203...
If u can see improvement in picture quality, then yes, you can confirm the mod is effective...the whole idea of the mod is to bring down noise level, when that happens, immediately you can tell from improvement in picture quality.
Another effective way is to Ensure using a good power conditioner, when the source of power feeding the equipment is clean and Low noise, there is a huge benefit down the chain, everything will shine...
I’d save the $$ on the mod, and go for a good solid power conditioner, just sharing my experience after experimenting works
Power! Care to share where you bought all the stuffs? Also the jb.... what can it do? Thanks for sharing.Taobao a lot, different seller offering different LPS designs and package. Can pm me if you want my seller. For the 60 jb u will need the flash jig connect the set to flash the latest firmware.
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I’d save the $$ on the mod, and go for a good solid power conditioner, just sharing my experience after experimenting works
2 months ago we did a shoot out, to compare
1.Stock 203
2.Modded 203
3.Stock 205
4.Modded 205
It was an interesting experience. Since i do not have an AVR, we could only test the Analog outs 7 channels. We played and repeated this track https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wwOdexepEhIKzOv8LPUwstjakpi3Hpcs/view?usp=sharing , few times until all of us were familiar with the sound. We then swap in 1 by 1, as per the sequence above. We all concluded 205 was way ahead in the analog section. Personally, i couldnt tell any difference between the modded and stock version. Im sure there is improvement, but i wasnt able to tell. These were all connected to an Ansuz D8 Power Distributor.
Then the "Real Magic" happened. We Plugged in a Power Conditioner, the Plixir Elite 3000. That changed all our views, immediately all of us could tell, improvement of 40% and beyond:
1. Much Improved picture Quality.
2. Much cleaner sound with details due to lower noise.
The improvement was huge, significant. Almost instantly everyone was smiling. This is only one Oppo 205 connecting to the Plixir. Imagine if all others like power amp, AVR etc, benefits are huge. Every single equipment benefit from this "Clean" power. We then tested other things like power cords, interconnect etc.
The conclusion from that shootout was, source of power is very very important. If the source of power is regulated, with ultra low impedance, the dynamics will improve, hence not only creating a clean and live sounding system, it also protects your equipment in the long run. I ended up investing in the Plixir Elite 3000
+1 to the Elite 3000 pairing with Oppo 205 stock analog
If I may say : 203 vs 205 is not a fair comparison especially you are using analogue.
If you find power conditioner give you a very good yield, welcome to the club of never ending upgrading ;D
Have you tried furutech NCF IECs :D
2 months ago we did a shoot out, to compareJust realize you are using the weakest part of 203 compare with 205 strongest part - analogue. As you can seen i the mod is disconnect and disable the analogue circuit withdraw current from power board (some mod go this option some no), i choose this option becoz i no using analogue output at all. Compare hdmi 203 and 205 might a fairer game as both them sharing similar digital circuit.
1.Stock 203
2.Modded 203
3.Stock 205
4.Modded 205
It was an interesting experience. Since i do not have an AVR, we could only test the Analog outs 7 channels. We played and repeated this track https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wwOdexepEhIKzOv8LPUwstjakpi3Hpcs/view?usp=sharing , few times until all of us were familiar with the sound. We then swap in 1 by 1, as per the sequence above. We all concluded 205 was way ahead in the analog section. Personally, i couldnt tell any difference between the modded and stock version. Im sure there is improvement, but i wasnt able to tell. These were all connected to an Ansuz D8 Power Distributor.
Then the "Real Magic" happened. We Plugged in a Power Conditioner, the Plixir Elite 3000. That changed all our views, immediately all of us could tell, improvement of 40% and beyond:
1. Much Improved picture Quality.
2. Much cleaner sound with details due to lower noise.
The improvement was huge, significant. Almost instantly everyone was smiling. This is only one Oppo 205 connecting to the Plixir. Imagine if all others like power amp, AVR etc, benefits are huge. Every single equipment benefit from this "Clean" power. We then tested other things like power cords, interconnect etc.
The conclusion from that shootout was, source of power is very very important. If the source of power is regulated, with ultra low impedance, the dynamics will improve, hence not only creating a clean and live sounding system, it also protects your equipment in the long run. I ended up investing in the Plixir Elite 3000
+1 to the Elite 3000 pairing with Oppo 205 stock analog
as oppo is no longer making new BD players, i'm making advance plans for replacements for my 203.
what would be worthy and potential candidates?
Read some posts here about the Panasonic UB820 and Pioneer LX800 that bros here have tried out
Just got my Oppo 203, bought mod kit and self upgrade to LPS version, changed IEC to silver cable, changed fuse to power house alpha 8000. PQ and SQ (especially SQ) jumped to another level.
Came with ver60 jb too.
(https://preview.ibb.co/npoe6p/88761_B41_8_D66_416_E_B5_D3_FB1792_C03_B45.jpg)
(https://preview.ibb.co/jfaLCU/49_F24_C66_A69_C_4444_ACE8_E885_E5952420.jpg)(https://preview.ibb.co/dbAnsU/55_C2_B053_9_B13_4_F2_B_982_B_7_F7_DD5_DDE677.jpg)
(https://preview.ibb.co/fqQLCU/1_DF6_A084_269_C_4118_8_C14_22_C34_BC906_BE.jpg)
Thanks to bro Kelvinsin, this hardware upgrade really does bring the 203 performanace up to the next level compared to the stock PSU.Wow thanks bro for the positive feedback, glad you enjoy the improvement. Actually there is another cheaper mod version with analogue output available, but if possible, this without analogue output version is best for user who dont use this function. In fact, i doubt why need this analgoue output since most of the user has dedicated avr with better dac.
For those who are just using the Digital Section of the 203 and not the analogue, suggest you give this upgrade a go, it's a no brainer and worth every cent of it. It really give the 203 a turbo charge performance, especially in the audio section.
Great job Kelvinsin and thanks again for your help and assistance rendered.
Really need to re-watch all my disc all over again to truely enjoy what it is all about now. :D
Looking forward to more great stuff from you again.
Wow thanks bro for the positive feedback, glad you enjoy the improvement. Actually there is another cheaper mod version with analogue output available, but if possible, this without analogue output version is best for user who dont use this function. In fact, i doubt why need this analgoue output since most of the user has dedicated avr with better dac.
(https://preview.ibb.co/fWvQR9/FC0_E8484_CD8_F_430_D_A82_D_E27_BF8_E2_F9_E0.jpg)
Sorry, hope i am not considered OT-ing (mod, please feel free to remove if so).
I just recently got hold of an old OPPO 93. My first OPPO and i really like it. I especially like the flush buttons on the fascia which completely blends into the front metal plate. I think the newer models don't have this.
Anyway, just wanted to raise a small concern. When i picked up the player after the player was in use for about an hour, the player case was very warm! Esepcially the right side (when facing the player). The underneath was very hot (the kind where it's like when you touch a hot pan and recoil back in reflex). Even my Emotiva XPA 2 doesn't get near this hot! My other blu ray players were never even warm when in use.
I have since put some USB fan coolers over the case of the player but thought i should ask with OPPO experts whether this is normal?
I wonder if they could implement something like Panasonic’s HDR optimizer in a firmware update.I tried to look through the operation manual from the european side, the display settings is not very elaborated.
I really like the Panasonic 820’s video processing but it doesn’t have HDMI input so I can’t do the same processing from my Zappiti media player’s HDR output.
I tried to look through the operation manual from the european side, the display settings is not very elaborated.
Does the player hv a setting to output in 21:9 like UB9000 do?
I do not own the 93. However my experience with 103 and 203 is that they run pretty cool. I have run them non stop for more than 2 days during run in and they are just slight warm to the touch.
Thanks! Now i am a bit concerned :(
Nothing to be concerned about. How many years had this 93 had survived at this temperature? It is still working now, isn't it?
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Well i got it from someone who rarely used it (the set is practically new) and even when he did he usually connected external storage devices and not play from disc.
Anyway, just wanted to raise a small concern. When i picked up the player after the player was in use for about an hour, the player case was very warm! Esepcially the right side (when facing the player). The underneath was very hot (the kind where it's like when you touch a hot pan and recoil back in reflex). Even my Emotiva XPA 2 doesn't get near this hot! My other blu ray players were never even warm when in use.
I have since put some USB fan coolers over the case of the player but thought i should ask with OPPO experts whether this is normal?
Took a look at the internals and the PSU is on the left side when looking at the front of the player. So not sure why you feel the heat is on the right side. If the heat is not really extreme, just leave it alone. Else pop the cover and check if anything is amiss.
Playback for a while and determine which part or component is generating the heat.
Hi all,
My oppo 203 remote suddenly cannot work. So I follow the steps below & everything was working again.
Remove the batteries from the remote control:
1. Press and hold the POWER button on the remote control for 3 seconds. Release.
2. Press and hold the SOURCE button on the remote control for 3 seconds. Release.
3. Repeat until all the buttons on the remote control have been pressed and held, individually, for 3 seconds each.
4. Replace the batteries with new ones (note: we do not recommend using Lithium batteries with the OPPO Remote).
5. Rotate the batteries in their compartment to ensure proper contact with the metal leads.
6. Change the dip switch at the bottom of the battery compartment to II or III.
7. Press the OPEN button on the front panel of the player so the tray ejects.
8. Aim the remote control at the front panel of the player and press and hold the ENTER button on the remote for 5 seconds.
9. The front panel should show CODE 2 or CODE 3.
Hi all,
My oppo 203 remote suddenly cannot work. So I follow the steps below & everything was working again.
Remove the batteries from the remote control:
1. Press and hold the POWER button on the remote control for 3 seconds. Release.
2. Press and hold the SOURCE button on the remote control for 3 seconds. Release.
3. Repeat until all the buttons on the remote control have been pressed and held, individually, for 3 seconds each.
4. Replace the batteries with new ones (note: we do not recommend using Lithium batteries with the OPPO Remote).
5. Rotate the batteries in their compartment to ensure proper contact with the metal leads.
6. Change the dip switch at the bottom of the battery compartment to II or III.
7. Press the OPEN button on the front panel of the player so the tray ejects.
8. Aim the remote control at the front panel of the player and press and hold the ENTER button on the remote for 5 seconds.
9. The front panel should show CODE 2 or CODE 3.
Hey for those who own the 205 and 203, do change out ur original remote batteries asap!
The original batteries that came with my 203 just started leaking. Luckily i caught it in time. Managed to save my remote after opening it up and wiping off the corrosive liquid immediately from the circuit board ;D
Hero, use rechargeable batteries for all your important remote controls. Wont have to worry about this issue. Thats what i do
Good idea bro Ronil. I have not encountered rechargeable batteries that leak on me before :)
So far my experience with Energizer has no leak issues. Had leak issues with Duracell.
I too have switched to rechargeables for many years.
Haven’t lost a single remote since.
But I do notice that with remotes that have backlight, the rechargeables last even shorter than normal. Or not light up particularly bright.
New FW UDP20XTW-65-0131 out on OPPO Digital Taiwan website : http://www.oppodigital.com.tw/support.php?tab_id=1
What does this firmware include, HDR10+ upgrade?
What does this firmware include, HDR10+ upgrade?
Yes according to report @avsforum OPPO UDP 205 thread although it didn't indicated,it's in the beta FW also. The main features of this update are added HDR10+ & Dolby Vision pass through on HDMI input on the 20x player.
There is a possibility that this update may include HDR10+ since Oppo is also one of the participating brands backing HDR10+.
Funny how the 2 major players all exited the Blu-ray player market even before HDR10+ rolled out. Samsung at least going to implement HDR10+ in their flagship phones.
Yes according to report @avsforum OPPO UDP 205 thread although it didn't indicated,it's in the beta FW also. The main features of this update are added HDR10+ & Dolby Vision pass through on HDMI input on the 20x player.
Thanks bro Des & ngsk. Really looking forward to it.
Anyone tried updating it and face any issues and what are the improvements, if any?
Also any advice on how to update the unit bought from James @ Sound Affairs using a thumb drive, since their unit have the network update feature disabled?
Thanks for any advice given.
Oh...I didn’t know Sound Affairs Oppo players disabled the Network update? I guess probably to prevent user from accidentally updating the latest firmware and render the jailbreak firmware broken.
Anyway, there is still another way to do the update which you already pointed out - i.e. to use the USB update by uploading the .bin file into the root folder of a USB thumb drive to perform the update.
Take note, I no longer have Oppo player in my arsenal. Sold off my Oppo 203 a long long time ago. And I’m kind of regret it but life goes on.
Thanks bro des again for the prompt advice.SA not disabled the network update, just they not recommend to do so else the latest firmware will overwrite the jailbreak and become stock firmware set. Just either use usb or network to upgrade if u wan latest firmware. Its quite easy and straight forward.
Unfortunately, being a noob in IT, I am not familiar on how to use a usb thumb drive to download a file from the web and then to the Oppo and I worry any wrong move will render my Oppo setting inop so dare not try & error on this and will appreciate anybody familiar to guide me to do that? Tried reading the Oppo Manual but don't think I can grasp its entirety though.
SA not disabled the network update, just they not recommend to do so else the latest firmware will overwrite the jailbreak and become stock firmware set. Just either use usb or network to upgrade if u wan latest firmware. Its quite easy and straight forward.
Bro Kelvinsin, it's confirmed network upgrading has been disabled for the latest batch of Oppo with -625 firmware. I'd tried and it's confirmed disabled and also verified by James and mentioned in the manuel, as well.
So anyone tried using the thumb drive to update, can let me know how to go about it and any issues faced?
Any help and advice will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
Bro,FYI local bought 20x series player from SA are Taiwan set can only download FW from the link I posted with usb update only. Those 203 bought from the ex-dealer are USA set download FW from the link kelvinsin post.
On that Taiwan link click on this: 20系列韌體:UDP20XTW-65-0131
The FW will be downloaded as a .bin file,copy to a thumb drive plug into the 20x usb port click ok on the pop up ask new FW found whether to update n done liao.
Thanks ngsk, done that and it worked but don't see any difference leh, other than the firmware version changed, all other details remained the same leh.
Is this correct or should I expect to see some new features added to the menu selection or some visible improvement in performance?
Bro,FYI local bought 20x series player from SA are Taiwan set can only download FW from the link I posted with usb update only. Those 203 bought from the ex-dealer are USA set download FW from the link kelvinsin post.
On that Taiwan link click on this: 20系列韌體:UDP20XTW-65-0131
The FW will be downloaded as a .bin file,copy to a thumb drive plug into the 20x usb port click ok on the pop up ask new FW found whether to update n done liao.
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Just saw this on amazon today, got a shock ! Close to $4k
But it’s the best UHD player for me....No turning back
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Just saw this on amazon today, got a shock ! Close to $4k
But it’s the best UHD player for me....No turning back
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Haha, don’t worry so much about the future, enjoy what we have now! I’ve been enjoying the quality of the Oppo 20* for almost 2 years now, first from 203 and then 205. It’s the best in terms of sound quality and not bad for its video. Very stable, plays anything u throw at it
The analog 7.1 out with Sabre pro 9038 is TOP notch quality. Too bad no Atmos.
FYI
The Oppo 205 analog, I tested the vocals and dynamic range and found that it is better than the Lyngdorf when both are neutral non EQ. AB comparison plug out plug in same scene
None of the avr in the market can beat this Oppo 205 for 7.1 when it comes to dynamic range, clarity and details
The Sabre dac 9038 is too good , that’s my finding so far. Very good for those just using 7.1
Hi bro ! Would you sacrifice dynamic range / details / clarity for atmos, dtsx etc when using a player for movies ? Ie. Would you rather use the OPPO 205 or AVR Eg. Denon 8500 for movies
if Panasonic UHD player can jailbreak or modifyable。。。that can take the throne from OPPO perhaps。。。
Pioneer is just too costly to start。
Here is my take after experiencing with Onkyo rz5100 (Atmos) to Oppo 205 7.1 analog(non Atmos) to Lyngdorf Mp50 (Atmos)Thanks bro for the clear and detailed feedback !
When I was on Onkyo, the clarity and dynamic range was way far apart that I’d rather have 7.1 than the Atmos. I was on that for some time. I found that a good sounding 7.1 is far more satisfying than average Atmos. Despite the Onkyo having the upper hand playing a good source file from Atmos and DTSx, it was nowhere near the analog 7.1 of the oppp, even the Denon 6200 I had. It was a pretty clear choice to go with the Oppo 205. Both were used in conjunction with Dirac live ddrc88a EQ
Enter lyngdorf with Atmos and it’s a different ball game. Several levels up. The strengths of the lyngdorf lies in the room EQ software called Room Perfect. This is one of the best room EQ software as of now. What it does is it handles every speakers (including Atmos) very well with the subwoofers, blending in the time domain. This is something the Oppo cannot do. Suddenly the entire soundstage is so immersive and clean sounding that the subtle dynamic range the Oppo has over the lyngdorf is not being missed. The thousands of first reflections are being managed nicely by the EQ programme in the time domain, as a result, every speakers seem to be decaying at the right rate.... fading off slowly, retaining the liveliness. The room modes are eliminated and u actually start hearing the speakers and not the room. The dtsx and Atmos soundtrack gives the lyngdorf a head start now. Overall immersive experience improves significantly over the 7.1 clear sounding Oppo 205.
That’s my experience so far. So it really depends on the avr or processor u use.
Atmos is good to have, but u must remember, the more speaker you introduce in the chain, the more problems you would have to solve, so it’s not easy because 7.1 is easier to manage, unless u have good room EQ or manual Optimisation work
I’ve no experience with Denon 8500 so can’t really advice.
So far my experience with Energizer has no leak issues. Had leak issues with Duracell.
See the leak on Energizer alkaline , luckily it’s non important stuff, it’s just automatic dustbin that uses battery
Nowadays so many fake Energizer batteries
Luckily not using any of these for the remote
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Just curious, your comments on fake energizier batteries. So you are suspecting your energizer is fake and that’s why leak?
I guess I am the lucky one. I only buy energizer from proper shops and since Amazon was in Singapore, through Amazon. I always check expiry date. No issue so far.
https://www.energizer.com/about-batteries/no-leaks-guaranteeGood to know that. I used GP on 203 controller had same issue too. Will try energizer since has guarantee!
Agree i am using these too!
got a question about repairs.If your unit is a local set, just bring to Sound Affairs no?
in the event that our players (either 203 or 205) go belly up, who do we go to for repairs locally?
I know the guys in the US can send it back to OPPO.
If your unit is a local set, just bring to Sound Affairs no?
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Mine was from Anson Audio. It is a local set.Anson’s set still comes from Sound Affairs unless it is during the pre-SLT days. In all cases, just go straight to Sound Affairs.
Do you know if Sound Affairs services out of warranty Oppos?
Anson’s set still comes from Sound Affairs unless it is during the pre-SLT days. In all cases, just go straight to Sound Affairs.
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