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Title: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on May 05, 2015, 22:40
I just heard that some of the major brands will be releasing their offerings at the CEDIA show.

This can be a solid year for 4k :)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: eggz on May 08, 2015, 09:28
Any indication what connectivity options these players will be offering? At this time HDMI 2.0a won't have the bandwidth to support the full feature set of 4K blu-ray standard, eg. HFR, HDR, high colour gamut etc.

Hopefully these players will also support the superior connectivity standards like displayPort and/or SuperMHL.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Norman_Chan on May 16, 2015, 14:25
http://www.hardwarezone.com.sg/tech-news-ultra-hd-blu-ray-specification-finalized-ultra-high-res-content-arrives-discs?utm_source=forum&utm_medium=suggested%2Bread&utm_campaign=Ultra%2BHD%2BBlu-ray%2Bspecification%2Bfinalized%2C%2Bultra-high%2Bres%2Bcontent%2Barrives%2Bon%2Bdiscs

New standard coming....
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on May 16, 2015, 14:44
We will know more by third quarter so stay tuned.
Lots of noise in Usa but as usual we won't be the first on to adopt.
Even the Sony 4K media player can't be used in Asia outside of Japan ..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: jeffong on May 17, 2015, 09:45
Time to start importing these 4K players come November as I doubt Singapore will see any of them reach our shores this year itself.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on May 17, 2015, 10:01
There's always this "mismatch" between software and hardware in the AV industry...to really "move mountain" - I meant sales "volume", both must be moving in tandem else it makes it harder for the consumers to lock in that interest. That's my greatest gripe for current AV industry.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on May 17, 2015, 10:08
Time to start importing these 4K players come November as I doubt Singapore will see any of them reach our shores this year itself.
Back to those heady days about 6 years ago?
Hd DVDs and transformers :)
Hold your horses..
I will see what oppo brings in future.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: AB Chan on May 17, 2015, 19:35
Good chance this time round may be different.

Heard Samsung and Panasonic will debut their new UHD Bluray players this September at IFA in Germany which is European 220V 50Hz territory. What might hold back purchase is the availability of the Bluray disc. The 60G and 100G discs are new and require new tooling and production facilities that may take more time, but I guess won't be too long and we may just be able to get our hands on the first few before Christmas.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: jeffong on May 17, 2015, 20:51
I highly doubt it as the local agents just can't be bothered with the small local market size.  Look at how Samsung is even marketing the SUHD TV's and you know they have failed big time.  Not one single demo set I have seen has the HDR demo clip setup which in my opinion would be the killer feature to differentiate their flagship from the lower end models.  Anyway, as long as online shopping is around, we don't have to depend on the local channel for things that can still be easily imported at a cheaper price.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on September 22, 2015, 20:11
https://www.avforums.com/article/the-bda-discuss-the-latest-on-ultra-hd-blu-ray.11917?utm_campaign=September_2015_Newsletter&utm_source=Suite26&utm_medium=Email+Campaign

4K disc format will finally launch in January

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Although delivering 4K content over the internet is now a reality, for many the only realistic way to watch Ultra HD movies is via a disc-based format.   So we have been eagerly following the development of 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray over the last few years, not only because it might be the only way to actually watch 4K content without being at the mercy of broadband speeds but also because it offers the chance to watch films with a level of quality that is almost comparable to the cinema. The development of UHD Blu-ray has taken a long time but it has gone hand-in-hand with improvements to display technology and changes to the television standards. It wasn't until IFA last year that confirmation came of an actual timetable for the new format's release (https://www.avforums.com/news/4k-ultra-hd-uhd-blu-ray-disc-confirmed-2015.10665). Since then there have been a number of announcements this year, starting with the finalising of the specifications (https://www.avforums.com/news/bda-completes-ultra-hd-4k-blu-ray-specifications.11540) back in May and more recently the beginning of the licensing process (https://www.avforums.com/news/bda-announces-licensing-of-ultra-hd-blu-ray-format.11798).
 
 At IFA this year we not only had the announcement of the Samsung UBD-K8500 (https://www.avforums.com/article/samsung-turn-ifa-into-a-technological-showcase.11900), the world's first Ultra HD Blu-ray player, but also news of the first nine titles to be released by Twentieth Century Fox. The studio even plans to release future films on UHD Blu-ray day and date with the regular Blu-ray release. Whilst at IFA, we had the chance to sit down with Dan Schinasi the Promotions Chairman of the Blu-ray Disc Association (BDA) and talk about the latest developments in Ultra HD Blu-ray.
 
 Could you start by just giving us an update on the current status of Ultra HD Blu-ray?
 
   Well if you look at the numbers there is significant growth forecast for Ultra HD TVs and also a lot of larger screen sizes migrating over to 4K, which sets up Ultra HD Blu-ray to be the vehicle to deliver 4K to UHD displays. The licensing has started, which is a significant milestone.
 
   So the specs have all been finalised.
 
   Yes the specs are all finalised and the licensing has begun. The lawyers have written all their agreements, the logos have been agreed.
 
   Is the licensing with the manufacturers, the studios or both?
 
   Both. In fact there’s a lot of licensing because you also have mastering the content, verifiers and so on.
 
   I think people sometimes forget that creating a new format is a complex process.
 
   You’re right, it’s not just a bit of silicone and a plastic disc, there are replicators and an entire supply chain of getting the blank discs and all that has to be performed before things can happen. And we need the creative community too. Fox is ready and they’ve made some bold statements but other studios need to follow in their footsteps, it’s not just about one studio.
 
   In terms of studio support are they all on board.
 
   Yes they are, literally since all the major studios are board members of the BDA. Not only are the studios behind UHD Blu-ray but they are active contributors. The BDA meets quarterly, with smaller meetings in between and the studios are very active participants.
   Not only are the studios behind UHD Blu-ray but they are active contributors.   At one point there was a fear that studios might bypass physical media and go straight to digital delivery.
 
   It’s interesting you should bring that up because along with all the advanced features that UHD Blu-ray offers, this is a physical format but with digital extensions. So whilst streaming is nice and instant and on demand, it eats a lot of bandwidth. In the US Netflix advise on their website 25Mbps for UHD and I don’t know about the speeds in Europe, it may depend on the country, but that’s a challenge for some, even in the US. It also isn’t just the speed that you get but it’s also the sustained speed, so you might get it in the afternoon but not in the evening.
 
 The other interesting aspect is that the UHD Alliance and the studios have got together to set a quality benchmark for 4K. You probably know about all the capabilities of Blu-ray but once you start layering on the HDR, the higher bit depth, the larger colour space and the higher frame rates, then it becomes even more challenging to distribute. It won’t get less challenging although obviously speeds will increase. However with a UHD Blu-ray it’s a repeatable, constant experience and every time you put the disc in you know exactly what you’re going to get. Then there’s the digital extensions which are nice also, you don’t have to be in your living room. You can do an export and you can watch on another device.

 
   Does the digital bridge allow you to watch the film in 4K elsewhere in the house or on another device?
 
   It’s in the works, so right now the Blu-ray will allow you to take a 1080p copy and store it on the hard drive of your machine or some other local storage, that you can watch anywhere distributed throughout the house. The Ultra HD version of that is currently being worked on but right now it’s HD only on Blu-ray copy, whilst Blu-ray export is a version that you can move to tablets and mobile devices. It’s the best of both worlds with digital extensions.    With a UHD Blu-ray it’s a repeatable, constant experience and every time you put the disc in you know exactly what you’re going to get.   So the new format will be fully backwards compatible with regular Blu-ray.
 
   The player is backwards compatible, so the player will play regular Blu-ray discs and the new Ultra HD Blu-ray discs and it will work with a Full HD TV, an SDR 4K TV and an HDR 4K TV. But obviously the new discs won’t play in a regular Blu-ray player.
 
   I understand that there won’t be any support for 3D in 4K.
 
   No but you will be able to play Full HD 3D Blu-rays, although that will be a function of how the manufacturer decides to implement the features but a manufacturer can make a player that supports Ultra HD playback, 2D Full HD playback and 3D Full HD playback. So for example Samsung’s new UBD-K8500 will play all of those.
 
   I know that the specs support up to BT2020 but what will the initial Ultra HD discs use?
 
   Well the studios use DCI/P3 in the cinema and that ports over very easily to Ultra HD Blu-ray but if you’re wondering why we support such a wide colour space, this is a format that we want to last for a long time. We can always push it down but it’s good to have that bigger container and displays will eventually reach wider colour gamuts.
 
 Physically the disc will look identical to regular Blu-ray, just with a different capacity and the content will be HEVC encoded of course and the transfer rate is a lot quicker because you’re sending a lot of data. We were talking about 4K streaming at 25Mbps but with UHD Blu-ray it will be100Mbps, so it will take a while for streaming to catch up.
 
 The digital bridge is an option and you probably read in the press announcements that Samsung are working with Fox and they’re both committed to the digital bridge. When content is actually offered with the digital bridge is a different question because there are licensing servers that have to be implemented. However Fox are committed to doing it and Samsung are committed to offering it on their player.
 
 Since the players will be compatible with regular Blu-ray that gives you access to a library of about 10,000 different discs and also it can support all the different audio formats. It could also support future audio formats because a lot of them just pass through and the AV receiver will do the decoding. So if newer audio formats come along they can just pass through.
   You’ll see a tremendous amount of UHD Blu-ray activity at CES in January, with players and discs launching very soon afterwards.   Are you still optimistic of having players in stores by Christmas?
 
   It was announced yesterday (3rd of September) that at least in Europe it will be in the first quarter and whilst we’d love to launch earlier in the US, there’s an entire ecosystem that has to be put in place. It’s like a big ship that takes time to turn but you’ll see a tremendous amount of Ultra HD Blu-ray activity at CES in January, with players and discs launching very soon afterwards.
 
   Will Ultra HD Blu-ray have regional coding?
 
   It will have the same regions as regular Blu-ray which is A, B or C, although it’s up to the studio whether they use any regional coding. I believe it varies from studio to studio and release to release. So I believe it will be exactly the same as regular Blu-ray.
 
   Great, so the specs are agreed, the licensing has begun and we can expect a big launch at CES.
 
   Yes a very big launch in January but it was great to see that Fox have already announced their intention to release all their future movies on Ultra HD Blu-ray day and date with their regular Blu-rays. In fact we did a demonstration of a side-by-side comparison of Blu-ray and Ultra HD Blu-ray for the studios and the results were incredible, they were hugely impressed and gave us their blessing. So we’re ready to go and you can expect more announcements over the next few months.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on September 22, 2015, 20:34
Thanks for reviving this thread to update with the latest 4K news. Just as I suspected, no 3D in 4K resolution.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on September 22, 2015, 20:37
Thanks for reviving this thread to update with the latest 4K news. Just as I suspected, no 3D in 4K resolution.

Actually I have a difference conspiracy theory:
It's not easy to get buy in for 4k, so they want to let the features in, one at a time. 3D never really became mainstream, so they don't want to complicate things.
Furthermore, 3D needs more bandwidth, so they may not have the tech for it now.
Besides, if they release everything at once, then there's nothing for 2017!

These guys like to release things in small doses, so we feel the need to upgrade again and again...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on September 22, 2015, 20:41
Actually I have a difference conspiracy theory:
It's not easy to get buy in for 4k, so they want to let the features in, one at a time. 3D never really became mainstream, so they don't want to complicate things.
Furthermore, 3D needs more bandwidth, so they may not have the tech for it now.
Besides, if they release everything at once, then there's nothing for 2017!

These guys like to release things in small doses, so we feel the need to upgrade again and again...

I would attribute this "phenomenon" that you mentioned as business strategy...a more congenial term :P
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on October 07, 2015, 16:34
First 4K player to hit the market....Panasonic UBZ-1!!

(http://panasonic.jp/diga/blu-ray/ubz1/img/top/ubz1-furi.png)

Beats Samsung which only be available early 2016....Panasonic will sell from 13 Nov 2015!!

http://panasonic.jp/diga/blu-ray/ubz1/
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2989715/home-theater/panasonic-shows-worlds-first-ultra-hd-blu-ray-player.html
http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/News/Details.aspx?NewsId=44570
http://av.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/20151005_723049.html

(Audio)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on October 07, 2015, 16:57
Bro audio
I think you might be the first in our forum to have a 4k player :)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on October 07, 2015, 18:18
Lack of titles even when release earlier...still have to wait for the titles to come out in Dec iirc? But its good to know many manufacturers churning out the goods sooner rather than later.

Sent from my Galaxy Note 5

Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: chamay on October 07, 2015, 18:21
The price! ! Not 4 times but 40 times more expensive!
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: AB Chan on October 07, 2015, 18:41
Ya, at US$3,327 is madness. Also need a new thicker Premium grade HDMI cable and new 4K projector with HDR and wider colour space.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on October 07, 2015, 20:46
I guess for now...we'll just wait.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on October 08, 2015, 09:23
4k Ultra Blu Ray titles announced.......

(http://audio.sg/pic/4kbluraytitle.jpg)

Exodus: Gods And Kings, Kingsman: The Secret Service, Fantastic Four, X-Men: Days Of Future Past, Life Of Pi, Wild and The Maze Runner.

http://www.denofgeek.com/dvd-bluray/ultra-hd-blu-ray/36852/first-ultra-hd-4k-blu-ray-disc-player-and-discs-revealed#ixzz3nvzrwZ2j

(Audio)

Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on October 08, 2015, 09:49
Of the lot, I might be keen on Kingsman and Maze Runner...

If they had Fifth Element on true 4k and Atmos, that will certainly be a keeper..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on November 21, 2015, 07:19
SO close, yet so far.

Saw on the shelf...it's available BUT THE MENUS ARE ALL IN JAPANESE!!  No go!

(http://audio.sg/pic/uhd4Kblu.jpg)

No Blu Ray Software.  They use this as a 4K video recorder for TV programs for now.

(Audio)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on December 23, 2015, 11:05
IMHO, it will be 2017 before we see them on our shelves.. unless we import 110v models from USA..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: ptey on January 06, 2016, 14:23
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-kVdQzcDpHSn/p_305BDK8500/Samsung-UBD-K8500.html

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/searchpage.jsp?st=ubd-k8500&_dyncharset=UTF-8&id=pcat17071&type=page&sc=Global&cp=1&nrp=&sp=&qp=&list=n&iht=y&usc=All+Categories&ks=960&keys=keys
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on January 09, 2016, 18:27
Kings men - now out on 4K .. For preorder at usd 29.99
Not too bad if anyone is an early adopter.
I think the makers are keen to keep things more affordable than when Blu Ray first came out ..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: cstanxpl on January 09, 2016, 19:04
Samsung's 4K Blu-ray player goes on sale March, costs $400

Read more at http://www.whathifi.com/news/samsungs-4k-blu-ray-player-goes-sale-march-costs-400#yBqLXfPjHhxXxcg4.99
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on January 10, 2016, 00:34
So for a HT enthusiast with moderate funding, one can get 4K for under 10k with a 75-75" flatscreen, a 4K player and spend the rest on discs...
Of course if we wait it will get cheaper. And for an even bigger screen a projector and 4K player can still be hard for under 10k..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on January 10, 2016, 17:14
Samsung's 4K Blu-ray player goes on sale March, costs $400

Read more at http://www.whathifi.com/news/samsungs-4k-blu-ray-player-goes-sale-march-costs-400#yBqLXfPjHhxXxcg4.99
On amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Electronics-UBD-K8500-Blu-ray-Player/dp/B01A9V6OI6/ref=sr_1_5?s=tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1452416822&sr=1-5&keywords=4k+blu+ray+player
Pity it doesn't ship to SG...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: durianlover88 on January 10, 2016, 17:20
The Panasonic DMP-UB900 seems to be the other competing offering with Samsung...spring launch maybe...price should be much more expensive:

http://www.trustedreviews.com/panasonic-dmp-ub900-review
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: jeffong on January 10, 2016, 22:11
Those folks who have no intention to upgrade their non HDCP 2.2 AVR's anytime soon will opt for the Panny player due to it's twin HDMI output feature. I'm hoping it's launched for less than US$500 in spring and will gladly pick a unit up during my next US trip.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on January 10, 2016, 22:31
Bro
You may want to wait first.. Let the dust settle
Firstly Blu Ray was such an unfinished product that the first Blu Ray players became obsolete quickly.
Second the hdcp and Hdmi version evolution is a real pain.
Of course if you need one right now it will work well as a standard Blu Ray player.
Remember our samsung bdp 1400 :)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: jeffong on January 11, 2016, 13:33
Well that's part of the game right.. I still have my Sony S7000 DVD player, Toshiba HD-A1 HD-DVD and the first gen PS3 BD player living happy together in the store room.  ;D
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on January 11, 2016, 14:24
Same with Jeff, Sony DVD-S7000ES, Toshiba HD-A1, Sony BDP-S1..........

And now Samsung UBD K8500, priced at what?  US$399?? 

WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR???

DONE!  No brainer.

(http://audio.sg/pic/4kultragdorder.jpg)

(Audio)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Tiktokape on January 11, 2016, 15:07
Same with Jeff, Sony DVD-S7000ES, Toshiba HD-A1, Sony BDP-S1..........

And now Samsung UBD K8500, priced at what?  US$399?? 

WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR???

DONE!  No brainer.

(http://audio.sg/pic/4kultragdorder.jpg)

(Audio)
No direct shipping to SG  :'(
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on January 11, 2016, 15:27
Beggers cannot choose..........no direct shipping.  I am not comfortable with Vpost but what to do?

(Audio)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on January 11, 2016, 18:30
Let us know how it sounds and works bro Audio
And if it needs a transformer ?
Thanks
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: jeffong on January 11, 2016, 21:00
It's rare for US disc players to be equipped with universal power supplies.  All the imported players I have only accept 100V which will necessitate the use of step-downs which AUDIO will not have an issue since he has them setup all over his house.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: n3wk1d on January 11, 2016, 21:13
Is not shipping to Singapore a issue?
Don't think so. LOL

On amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Electronics-UBD-K8500-Blu-ray-Player/dp/B01A9V6OI6/ref=sr_1_5?s=tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1452416822&sr=1-5&keywords=4k+blu+ray+player
Pity it doesn't ship to SG...

Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on January 13, 2016, 22:20
What a happy man I am.......   :)

(http://audio.sg/pic/4kultrahdorder-2.jpg)

(Audio)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on January 14, 2016, 00:13
Do share your thoughts bro
Wish I can visit and see it for myself ..
I guess a whole new 4K chain of equipment will be needed ..
Enjoy :)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: n3wk1d on January 14, 2016, 09:56
Click on the player details and found the origin it's Indonesia.  :o
They have moved their high end factory to there?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on January 14, 2016, 11:03
Since when is this "high-end"...it is just a plastic player that can playback the new 4k UltraHD discs.

US$399.....what are you looking for?

(Audio)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on January 14, 2016, 11:28
I am waiting for Oppo ..
I suspect their 101ci will be used as a mule for a new player.
Swop out the drive for a 4K capable machine and viola ..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on January 14, 2016, 11:43
I am waiting for Oppo ..
I suspect their 101ci will be used as a mule for a new player.
Swop out the drive for a 4K capable machine and viola ..

Why they want to do that?  They are no PS Audio or Ayre......

They will sell you a new player.

(Audio)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on January 14, 2016, 11:59
Bro that's what a mule is.. They try out all the parts so when 4K is more accepted, they only have to put a new 4K drive and sell it as their first 4K player with tried and tested parts that are highly reliable.
With the right Hdmi board it can be the new 104 and with a toroidal it can be the new 106..
No need to develop another chassis for the 4K platform.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: dXter on January 19, 2016, 23:07
http://presscentre.sony.eu/pressreleases/beyond-the-blu-ray-sony-introduces-high-resolution-premium-audio-and-video-player-1284176

Sony's premium 4k player with stereo analogue out. SA-CD playback supported too. yummy. Hopefully, will come to our shores?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on January 19, 2016, 23:40
http://presscentre.sony.eu/pressreleases/beyond-the-blu-ray-sony-introduces-high-resolution-premium-audio-and-video-player-1284176

Sony's premium 4k player with stereo analogue out. SA-CD playback supported too. yummy. Hopefully, will come to our shores?

Nope, just normal 1080p Blu Ray player with upscale 4K output.  Cannot play 4K UHD Blu Ray.

(Audio)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: dXter on January 20, 2016, 09:59
Nope, just normal 1080p Blu Ray player with upscale 4K output.  Cannot play 4K UHD Blu Ray.

(Audio)

Ah, my bad.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: francis wu on January 20, 2016, 14:32
latest news....
http://www.whathifi.com/news/ultra-hd-blu-ray-prices-revealed-first-discs-go-sale
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: jdc115 on January 20, 2016, 18:22
Nope, just normal 1080p Blu Ray player with upscale 4K output.  Cannot play 4K UHD Blu Ray.

(Audio)

When was the last time Sony release a player with SACD ability?  I thought they pretty much dropped it in most of their players
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on January 20, 2016, 20:42
actuallythey have kept this featureon all their top models...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: jdc115 on January 20, 2016, 21:15
Are you sure?  I can't find any on Sony's website other than this model.  When I check Amazon, I can only find it on discontinued models.  Even if I check Sony's audio pages, this is the only player I can find, not even a dedicated CD/SACD player. 
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Vinylfan on January 24, 2016, 09:30
Does this mean that my new Oppo 105D player is already obsolete??
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: sigurros on January 24, 2016, 10:31
Does this mean that my new Oppo 105D player is already obsolete??

Think so if you want to play native 4k content.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on January 24, 2016, 11:26
Does this mean that my new Oppo 105D player is already obsolete??
Well the question is :
- do you have a total 4k chain - amp, source and display?
- are you going to go 4k soon for all your software ?

For example, I have hundreds of BR discs, and 'only' a 1080p' PJ and TV. I am not to fussed about joining the 4k bandwagon if the signing up costs are high. But at USD 399, the first player is very interesting, and offers backward compatibility with my old BR discs. So getting it is a no brainer.
However I may opt for a 2nd gen player just so that they sort out the kinks and develop a 220V version. Also a twin HDMI output is very useful, especially for legacy users without a full HDMI 2.0a / HDCP 2.2 chain.

Many casual HT users have a 4k TV, and watch DVDs or FTA channels on it, and wonder why the PQ is bad. So if your current setup is mostly 1080p based, there's nothing to fret about.

Your 105D is a solid player and will give you a lot of joy. Besides people don't buy a 105D and worry about 4k. This is a high-end player valued for it's musical playback, media centre capability rather than it's 4k or even BR playback duties.

If you wanted a 4k upscaling player, there are plenty of cheaper options. Nowadays for around $300, you can get something from Sony / Pioneer etc that even includes SACD playback.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on January 24, 2016, 11:30
Are you sure?  I can't find any on Sony's website other than this model.  When I check Amazon, I can only find it on discontinued models.  Even if I check Sony's audio pages, this is the only player I can find, not even a dedicated CD/SACD player. 
You can see SACD playback capability on the top models for the past 5 years.
See the 7200, 790, 6200, 6500 etc...

This is a thread about BR players, so I can't comment on whether Sony still carries music only SACD playback players...
Cheers
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on January 24, 2016, 11:39
If one is in USA or can buy direct, Fox Connect is offering their 4k discs at a significant discount...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Vinylfan on January 24, 2016, 14:59
Well the question is :
- do you have a total 4k chain - amp, source and display?
- are you going to go 4k soon for all your software ?

For example, I have hundreds of BR discs, and 'only' a 1080p' PJ and TV. I am not to fussed about joining the 4k bandwagon if the signing up costs are high. But at USD 399, the first player is very interesting, and offers backward compatibility with my old BR discs. So getting it is a no brainer.
However I may opt for a 2nd gen player just so that they sort out the kinks and develop a 220V version. Also a twin HDMI output is very useful, especially for legacy users without a full HDMI 2.0a / HDCP 2.2 chain.

Many casual HT users have a 4k TV, and watch DVDs or FTA channels on it, and wonder why the PQ is bad. So if your current setup is mostly 1080p based, there's nothing to fret about.

Your 105D is a solid player and will give you a lot of joy. Besides people don't buy a 105D and worry about 4k. This is a high-end player valued for it's musical playback, media centre capability rather than it's 4k or even BR playback duties.

If you wanted a 4k upscaling player, there are plenty of cheaper options. Nowadays for around $300, you can get something from Sony / Pioneer etc that even includes SACD playback.
Thank you! Your message is informative and reassuring.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on January 24, 2016, 17:32
No problem.. Whatever the device, read the manual and spec sheet, and figure out your own needs, immediate and in a few years, then buy the item and enjoy... Cheers
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on January 27, 2016, 10:48
Philips enters the fray:
http://4k.com/news/philips-reveals-new-4k-blu-ray-player-with-hdr-support-at-ces-2016-11837/



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Philips reveals new 4K UHD Blu-ray player with HDR support at CES 2016
by Stephen on January 6, 2016




 

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Stephan Jukic (https://plus.google.com/u/0/106829131947808745200) – January 06, 2016
Philip’s 4K UHD TVs and other devices aren’t the most famous on the North American market when compared to Sony, LG or Samsung models (though they do sell well in Europe) but the company is known for producing quality, cutting-edge technology and the latest, revealed at CES 2016 (http://4k.com/news/ces-2016-will-offer-lots-of-interesting-new-4k-ultra-hd-goods-11759/) definitely point in this direction.
To start with Philips has announced the upcoming release of a new 4K UHD Blu-ray player, which will make it the third company in this new year do offer such a device, along with Panasonic and Samsung (http://4k.com/news/panasonic-presents-its-first-4k-ultra-hd-blu-ray-player-for-us-market-ces-2016-11818/) (at least from what we’ve heard via CES 2016). The new player will offer HDR video support (http://4k.com/a-closer-look-at-4k-tv-hdr-9860-2/) and goes by the model number BDP7501. In essence, this new device is designed to compete with the Blu-ray 4K offerings of both Samsung’s and Panasonics players while also offering a ridiculously compact design that beats both of the competitors’ models. The player in fact looks more like a particularly small set-top box than a standard disc media player.
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[/color][/size][/font][/size][size=78%] [/size][/size][size=78%]both VP9 and HEVC 4K video compression codecs (http://4k.com/in-case-you-were-wondering-this-is-the-difference-between-vp9-and-hevc-983046/)[/size][/color][/size][size=78%], meaning that it can play a wide range of content from sources that support either format, which means[/size][/size][size=78%] [/size][/size][size=78%]movies and shows in 4K from Netflix, Amazon Prime, YouTube and others (http://4k.com/movies/)[/size][/color][/size][size=78%]. There will also be an upscaling option for non-4K UHD video sources and connectivity for both HDMI 2.0a and the older HDMI 1.4 will be built into the BDP7501.[/size]
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on January 27, 2016, 14:00
An interesting article about when 4k isn't really 4k:
http://www.highdefdigest.com/blog/ultra-hd-not-always-4k/
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on February 13, 2016, 21:15
First review of the samsung :
http://m.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Samsung/ultra-hd-bluray/4K/UHD/hdr/hands-on-first-look-samsung-ubdk8500-ultra-hd-bluray-player/29748

Very promising... But there's word about hdcp issues so early adopters beware ..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on February 24, 2016, 00:10
Bro Audio and others who bought the Samsung:
Have you got it yet, and how is it?

4k discs are now on the market, and it's clear that they want buy-in by the cutting edge folks..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on February 24, 2016, 09:31
Amazon is delaying shipment.  If you are lucky, you may get one from the retail stores in the US.  I understand even Walmart have some.  Best Buy had double their retail price for the UBD-K8500.   It could be that everyone is now asking for stock and Amazon is losing their allocation to the retailers.

I will be in the US  early March and I will be making attempts. All my 4K UHD disc are shipping normal, I would have a bunch of them early March.  I am holding out on the Marantz 8820A,  I am going to put the player very near to the projector and run a long HDMI to the AVP instead because now I know the player has dual HDMI.

(Audio)

Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: jeffong on February 25, 2016, 15:28
I'll be in the US in early March as well and will be sounding out all the Best Buy and Fry's stores in the area.  Wanted to reserve one for BB store pickup when I'm there but it seems that BB online is not even accepting orders now.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on February 25, 2016, 15:33
I am grateful for the adventure of brave pioneers like you two. Go for it, and please report back.
I look forward to getting one when there is stock of a 220V version, and it will give me reason to upgrade my display... heh..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on February 25, 2016, 15:41
Nothing brave about this.

HDDVD first player Toshiba HD-A1 cosst about SGD$1.3K  (US$800)
Blu Ray first player Sony BDP-S1 costs about US$1K

Now Samsung UBD-K8500 cost US$399.....it is a no-brainer decision.

(Audio)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: jeffong on February 25, 2016, 16:30
LOL!!! I don't even have a 4K display now.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: durianlover88 on February 25, 2016, 17:04
I am eager for 4K player to play to my 4K TV, but target is Panasonic UB900, not Samsung model...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on February 25, 2016, 17:37
Discs are flying over......

(http://audio.sg/pic/4kdiscorder-01.jpg)
(http://audio.sg/pic/4kdiscorder-02.jpg)

(Audio)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on February 25, 2016, 20:04
Bro Audio, are you aware some members in the AVSforum claimed that the PQ of the UHD bluray is nearly identical to the upscaled 1080p version of the bluray on their Sony 4K projector. Most of them are from VW500ES users, like myself...I believe you have the VW1100ES? I hope it will look good on your VW1100ES. Maybe the internals of the cheaper VW500ES has issue with HDR and higher color gamut. HDCP 2.2 for Input 2 allows 4K content to be played on the projector but the on-board video processor probably unable to produce higher bitrate of 10bit and above...4:2:0 is no issue.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on February 25, 2016, 22:46
Well not all 4k discs are the same. There were some good things said about "The Martian" so I think I will get the 4k copy, which comes with a BR disc too..

That said, I don't think I will convert my existing catalogue to 4k..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on February 25, 2016, 23:05
Agreed that the source material may not be true 4k... Some 4k titles may have its 2k counterpart up converted to 4k. I recalled most films are shot in 4k natively... I remember I read it somewhere. So it's kind of strange to read that some sources may be the reason. Need more samples and testing before we can arrive to a conclusion.

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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: jdc115 on February 25, 2016, 23:25
I'm not sure what camara resolution used for most digital films but maybe this has something to do with it:

http://4k.com/news/20-years-movie-titles-filmed-4k-nobody-bothered-save/
According to Kane, who is also a former chair of the SMPTE Working Group on Professional and Studio Monitors, the post production community has been filming many of their movies in real Cinema Grade 4096 X 2160 pixel resolution and then simply downsizing it to a much smaller 2K format for archiving without bothering to save the original real 4K footage simply because they were…. “Completely unaware of 2160p coming.”
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Tiktokape on February 28, 2016, 15:43
Provided by AVS. http://www.avsforum.com/forum/showthread.php?p=41972913

Samsung K8500 is in 110/120v.


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on February 28, 2016, 18:37
Provided by AVS. http://www.avsforum.com/forum/showthread.php?p=41972913

Samsung K8500 is in 110/120v.


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Thanks I think we established that it was a 110v only a while back, but that won't deter our bros here :)

Personally I will see how things work out, and target version 2.. with refinements, 220v and cheaper discs..

But since The Martian was such a hit for me, I might bite and get that anyhow in 4k, since it has a BR disc inside..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Tiktokape on February 28, 2016, 18:55

Thanks I think we established that it was a 110v only a while back, but that won't deter our bros here :)

Personally I will see how things work out, and target version 2.. with refinements, 220v and cheaper discs..

But since The Martian was such a hit for me, I might bite and get that anyhow in 4k, since it has a BR disc inside..
Yeah however nobody could confirmed unless we have one received the actual unit at least we know step down is required. I will probably order one if I can mod and convert to local voltage.


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Tiktokape on February 28, 2016, 22:44
Seems like it is a 100 to 240v, 50 to 60Hz, 2A player. Gonna order one and try!

http://www.avsforum.com/forum/showthread.php?p=41975745


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on February 28, 2016, 22:49
Wow, good news indeed...
Pity they don't ship over..
Seems like it is a 100 to 240v, 50 to 60Hz, 2A player. Gonna order one and try!

http://www.avsforum.com/forum/showthread.php?p=41975745


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Tiktokape on February 29, 2016, 11:16
Wow, good news indeed...
Pity they don't ship over..
Nah, still can order and there is direct shipping.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on February 29, 2016, 13:15
Nah, still can order and there is direct shipping.
I don't think you can get free shipping on this one?
Are you referring to vpost?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on February 29, 2016, 13:28
It's here!!!!

(http://audio.sg/pic/firstbatchuhdbluray.jpg)

(Audio)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Tiktokape on February 29, 2016, 13:30

I don't think you can get free shipping on this one?
Are you referring to vpost?
Paid shipping from BHPhoto.


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on February 29, 2016, 13:32
It's here!!!!

Nice, HKG or SG?
Please post your opinions, and whether it takes 220v... would love to see it in action... where's Jeff?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on February 29, 2016, 13:33
Player arriving today by 8pm at Vpost USA.

(http://audio.sg/pic/uhdplayerdelivery.jpg)

I don't like this but let's see how long Vpost will take.....  :(

(Audio)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on February 29, 2016, 17:14
Paid shipping from BHPhoto.

Just tried to add it - USD 59 for shipping.. ouch..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Tiktokape on February 29, 2016, 17:15

Just tried to add it - USD 59 for shipping.. ouch..
You are not far too off from using Vpost, Hopshopgo or Borderlinx anyway. For direct air to SG, not a bad deal.


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: ptey on February 29, 2016, 22:05
Need to use power converter for this player? Thinking to buy one for my Samsung UHD TV..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on February 29, 2016, 22:13
Need to use power converter for this player? Thinking to buy one for my Samsung UHD TV..
That's what bro Tikto mentioned, that it covers 110-220v..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Tiktokape on February 29, 2016, 22:15
Wait for Audio to confirm the findings

I did provided the AVS link that it can be supported locally. Hopefully it does vary around.

Worse case, transformer lo.


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: ptey on February 29, 2016, 22:22
Ordered placed. Now try to buy some movies in Amazon.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Tiktokape on February 29, 2016, 22:23

Ordered placed. Now try to buy some movies in Amazon.
haha fast hand fast leg. Hopefully it will ship out soon!


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: sigurros on February 29, 2016, 22:53
haha fast hand fast leg. Hopefully it will ship out soon!


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Where do you guys placed the order from? Amazon?

Need a forwarder yah as amz don't shipped to SG.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Tiktokape on February 29, 2016, 23:03
Where do you guys placed the order from? Amazon?

Need a forwarder yah as amz don't shipped to SG.
Not from Amazon, from B&H.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on March 01, 2016, 09:41
SLOW SLOW SLOW!!!  Player already delivered to Vpost USA and they are still dancing around, no available package for me to pay up and ship to Singapore.

(Audio)

Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Tiktokape on March 01, 2016, 10:11
SLOW SLOW SLOW!!!  Player already delivered to Vpost USA and they are still dancing around, no available package for me to pay up and ship to Singapore.

(Audio)
You can do live chat with Vpost to push your parcel to system.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on March 01, 2016, 10:14
I think stocks are low all over... hope you have better luck with B&H..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on March 01, 2016, 14:17
SLOW SLOW SLOW!!!  Player already delivered to Vpost USA and they are still dancing around, no available package for me to pay up and ship to Singapore.

(Audio)
Exciting times ahead... Woo hoo....

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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: durianlover88 on March 02, 2016, 08:51
Akan Datang....bundled with 2 pcs 4K discs (San Andreas and Mad Max) in Europe:

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/ub900-201602294254.htm
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on March 02, 2016, 09:33
Akan Datang....bundled with 2 pcs 4K discs (San Andreas and Mad Max) in Europe:

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/ub900-201602294254.htm
At 600 GBP, I expect a lot more... I am sure they can afford to bundle a couple of discs..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on March 02, 2016, 10:20
Please do not use VPOST whenever possible.  My UHD player delivered 29 Feb 2016 at N Bybee Lake Ct is still not available for payment.  What do they do in that facility?  Received and type into the system, the package received only what....how difficult is that?  How could it can takes days to input?   Just One Man Show sucking his thumb??

WTF!!

(Audio)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Tiktokape on March 02, 2016, 10:32

Please do not use VPOST whenever possible.  My UHD player delivered 29 Feb 2016 at N Bybee Lake Ct is still not available for payment.  What do they do in that facility?  Received and type into the system, the package received only what....how difficult is that?  How could it can takes days to input?   Just One Man Show sucking his thumb??

WTF!!

(Audio)
Did you do live chat with them? It works for me...


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on March 02, 2016, 10:45
What live chat?  You cannot even send them a message or email.  All they feature in their "Contact Us" is a lousy search function for their FAQ.

(Audio)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Tiktokape on March 02, 2016, 11:52
What live chat?  You cannot even send them a message or email.  All they feature in their "Contact Us" is a lousy search function for their FAQ.

(Audio)
They used to have a live chat feature quite a while ago, seems like they have taken that feature out. Time to use HopShopGo/Borderlinx, when my item has reached US address, I will usually live chat with them to add into my account if I want it urgently.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on March 02, 2016, 11:57
I called hotline.  They did managed to find my package but told me that they need 2 working day "get the parcel" to the warehouse.  I thought the address is already the warehouse.

SLOOOOOOOOWWWWW..............................................said the parcel should be appearing on my Vpost account tonight as it already night time in the US.

It already on their system, they can see the parcel on their monitor in Singapore.....WTH, why is it so difficult to move the entry to the customer to make payment???

(Audio)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Tiktokape on March 02, 2016, 12:19

I called hotline.  They did managed to find my package but told me that they need 2 working day "get the parcel" to the warehouse.  I thought the address is already the warehouse.

SLOOOOOOOOWWWWW..............................................said the parcel should be appearing on my Vpost account tonight as it already night time in the US.

It already on their system, they can see the parcel on their monitor in Singapore.....WTH, why is it so difficult to move the entry to the customer to make payment???

(Audio)
LaZY! It is so straight forward to switch to shopping cart mode.


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on March 03, 2016, 10:11
Here's the damage.

I really like to know what's the repacking fee is for.  Fuel surcharge while fuel is at an all time low.  A check on my past shipment showed an item weighting 2.1Kg was charged 15.12 for Weight Charge and $3.99 for fuel surcharge.  You calculate it out, fuel surcharge is a constant bonus they add on regardless of fuel price!!  I have checked, they charged the same rate since 2014.

Expected delivery 10-15 March....................really slow.............

(http://audio.sg/pic/vpostuhdplayer.jpg)

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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: jeffong on March 03, 2016, 11:26
For my order from Best Buy, I was charged US$28 for Sales Tax with free delivery to a colleague's place.  Will be smuggling it back in my luggage in 2 weeks time then.  Should have my discs arriving from Amazon by the time I'm back as well.  Meanwhile, will be looking out for a good deal on a 70+ inch 4k HDR TV.  The pricing for the Samsung 78 inch JS9500 just refuses to budge after weeks of monitoring.  >:(
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on March 03, 2016, 11:28
I am leaving for US on Monday....will be there for 2 weeks.  If I managed to see a physical unit at Walmart or Best Buy...or even Fry's, I will pick one up.   Tired of Vpost.

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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: aegis0129 on March 03, 2016, 11:36
Here's the damage.

I really like to know what's the repacking fee is for.  Fuel surcharge while fuel is at an all time low.  A check on my past shipment showed an item weighting 2.1Kg was charged 15.12 for Weight Charge and $3.99 for fuel surcharge.  You calculate it out, fuel surcharge is a constant bonus they add on regardless of fuel price!!  I have checked, they charged the same rate since 2014.

Expected delivery 10-15 March....................really slow.............

(http://audio.sg/pic/vpostuhdplayer.jpg)

(Audio)

Thanks for pointing out the thing about fuel surcharge, it is quite ridiculous in this day. But then again there is no collusion in petrol prices here.

The thing with vpost is that when things work out its OK, but when there is a fu u will pull your hair out talking to the Indian or pinoy cso. I kenna two times claiming my office was closed at 430pm on a weekday!

I think the best option with vpost is to use popstation, at least I know I won't kenna ninja postman.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Hass on March 03, 2016, 11:41
Thanks for pointing out the thing about fuel surcharge, it is quite ridiculous in this day. But then again there is no collusion in petrol prices here.

The thing with vpost is that when things work out its OK, but when there is a fu u will pull your hair out talking to the Indian or pinoy cso. I kenna two times claiming my office was closed at 430pm on a weekday!

I think the best option with vpost is to use popstation, at least I know I won't kenna ninja postman.

yeah vpost is terrible. I was using them years back then switch to borderlinx
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on March 03, 2016, 13:24
I am leaving for US on Monday....will be there for 2 weeks.  If I managed to see a physical unit at Walmart or Best Buy...or even Fry's, I will pick one up.   Tired of Vpost.

(Audio)
Bro if you end up with two units, I will buy one off you :)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on March 03, 2016, 13:48
I just found out, on Alaska Air, they charge US$25 for each check-in bag.....that means it's US$50 to ferry the US$399 Samsung player for 2 sectors.  Sigh....

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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on March 03, 2016, 14:59
I think I will just wait it out...Need an affordable true 4K projector with Laser source badly! Arghhh...everything else can wait.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on March 03, 2016, 15:18
Heady days these few weeks.
With DTS-X finally coming online to more people, 4k players almost here..


The coming Good Friday weekend will be a nice break to listen and enjoy...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: jeffong on March 08, 2016, 12:53
My Precious...  ;D
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e152/HTFreak/CD755209-0701-4CB4-8666-869F9E923B78.jpg) (http://s39.photobucket.com/user/HTFreak/media/CD755209-0701-4CB4-8666-869F9E923B78.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Tiktokape on March 08, 2016, 12:56
Congrats!


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: luqman123 on March 08, 2016, 13:05
Wah,  I tink u first in Spore n jb!  Congrats!
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on March 08, 2016, 13:23
Please share your review bro..

And is it 220V?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on March 08, 2016, 13:26
My Precious...  ;D
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e152/HTFreak/CD755209-0701-4CB4-8666-869F9E923B78.jpg) (http://s39.photobucket.com/user/HTFreak/media/CD755209-0701-4CB4-8666-869F9E923B78.jpg.html)

Congrats...so what UHD bluray title(s) you have on hand now? What 4K display (output) you own? Mind sharing...(I'm hoping that your appended signature that says UHD bluray: Coming Soon...you haven't update yet?)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: jeffong on March 09, 2016, 02:34
Can't test anything since I'll be in the States for another 2 weeks.  By then, our friend Audio should have gotten it from Vpost and posted his review.  Only ordered 4 UHD titles to date namely The Martian, Maze Runner, Spiderman 2 and Mad Max which is expected to arrive from Amazon before I come back.  As for TV, still monitoring the price of the 78 inch JS9500 but too bad can't check anything during this week's IT show.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on March 09, 2016, 07:24
I also stuck in the US till 16 Mar.  Fly to HKG, get on to a flight to SIN with 2 hour transit.  Fly back to HK on 20 Mar.

My player is now inside Tampines Post Office, waiting for my wife to go collect.

(Audio)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: jeffong on March 09, 2016, 09:56
Hmm.. What a coincidence.. Probably we can compare our players in HK Hahaha. U leaving from O'Hare?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on March 10, 2016, 00:40
Guys, when you open your players and try it, can you check if it's compatible with 220v, thanks..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on March 10, 2016, 00:57
I am now in Irvine.  Will fly north to Seattle and then back to LAX on 16 Mar to fly CX back to HK and then onwards to Singapore to collect the beloved player.   Testing can only start on Sunday 20th Mar evening in HK.

My inclination is that the Samsung will work with 220VAC.

(Audio)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: durianlover88 on March 10, 2016, 10:06
Got hold of my first two 4K BR discs (Martian & Sicario)....now have to patiently wait for Panasonic UB-900 to launch in SGP, or maybe buy from Europe...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: durianlover88 on March 10, 2016, 10:12
My Sister in law works in Panasonic SG (product/R&D)...told me not heard about this model pending launch in SG....so suspect wait might be long...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Tiktokape on March 10, 2016, 10:15
Can always order from Europe websites and ship back via forwarders.


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on March 10, 2016, 10:16
I suspect we will only see 4k players in 2017... just like in the heady days of HDDVD, they only appeared much later on...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: durianlover88 on March 10, 2016, 10:20
What are the recommended/reliable UK dealer shops that I can orler?

In Panasonic Europe UB-900 listed as coming soon...
http://www.panasonic.com/uk/consumer/home-entertainment/blu-ray-and-dvd/dmp-ub900eb.html
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on March 10, 2016, 10:33
I suspect we will only see 4k players in 2017... just like in the heady days of HDDVD, they only appeared much later on...

I beg to differ...This is unlike HD DVD and Bluray format war. 4K has been ratified. I personally think that by this year, the 4K Ultra UHD players will hit the shelf here in Singapore along with UHD titles.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on March 10, 2016, 10:38
I beg to differ...This is unlike HD DVD and Bluray format war. 4K has been ratified. I personally think that by this year, the 4K Ultra UHD players will hit the shelf here in Singapore along with UHD titles.

Let's see bro... I am talking about local retailers..
Right now brick and mortar shops carrying BR discs are as rare as hen's teeth.. I don't know if they want to increase inventory and carry 4k discs since most are still watching DVDs..
Perhaps some brave retailer will bring in a 4k player so they can increase sales of their TVS, but it could come in at a high markup..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on March 10, 2016, 10:43
Let's see bro... I am talking about local retailers..
Right now brick and mortar shops carrying BR discs are as rare as hen's teeth.. I don't know if they want to increase inventory and carry 4k discs since most are still watching DVDs..
Perhaps some brave retailer will bring in a 4k player so they can increase sales of their TVS, but it could come in at a high markup..
Haha... Maybe I m a little more optimistic. Cross fingers but frankly there is really no rush to get it atm imo. My purchase of 4k player and discs is fuelled largely on the availability of new batch of 4k projector with full hdmi 2.0a to capitalize on the HDR and wider color gamut,  but sadly there ain't any good one grabbing my attention.

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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on March 10, 2016, 15:27
Here's someone who prefers his BR to the UHD discs on the Samsung:
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/90-receivers-amps-processors/1574386-official-dolby-atmos-thread-home-theater-version-1300.html#post42267665

Quote
I got the Samsung K8500 and the HD Fury and hooked up both my current bluray player, Sony BDP-S7200 and the Samsung to the Onkyo TX-NR1030. The Sony was in a standard HDMI input and the Samsung was in the HDMI Input 3, which is 2.2. capable.
 The Onkyo HDMI Main Out then went to the Fury HD Fury.  The HD Fury passed both signals to the projector without any drama.  I have The Martian in bluray and had bought it in UHD.  So, I teed both of them up and ran to a few scenes that I thought might tell me something.
 After doing that briefly, it dawned on me that the Onkyo was probably applying processing of its on to the different HDMI inputs, so I disconnected both the bluray and the UHD.  Then, I hooked up the bluray to the HD Fury HDCP 1.4 input and the Samsung to the HDCP 2.2 input. Then, went back and looked at scenes without sound so that there was no distraction.
 I was accompanied in this experiment by a friend who was very interested in the Samsung as well just so someone else was either seeing or not seeing what I saw.
 My original intent was driven by information on the forum on a couple of issues.  The first is that some studios will likely provide Atmos on the UHD disks only and leave the bluray at whatever native sound format was used in the theaters.  And, secondly, that studios may manipulate the UHD disks such that some would not play at all on systems that were not pure HDCP 2.2 from start to finish.
 I want(ed) my Atmos!
 Well, then reality sets in.  Running the two players side by side showed me several things.  The Samsung K8500 on my system exhibits a black crush and distinct red push regardless of how I manipulated the projector settings.
 I found that I consistently preferred the picture from the Sony with the bluray disk over the UHD disk in the Samsung.  In the pictures that I am attaching, in each series, it is bluray disk on  Sony on the left, then UHD disk on Samsung in the middle, then bluray disk on Samsung on the right.
 I will offer this observation—part of the issue with the images are not the fault of the Samsung, but the mastering of the UHD disk itself. The reason that I say this is that if you compare the leftmost image (bluray on Sony) with the rightmost image (bluray on Samsung), either is preferable to the middle image (UHD disk on Samsung).  Arguably, the bluray disk on the Samsung may be preferable to the bluray on the Sony for some...maybe.
 And, a guess...that black crush that I observe might be due to the expanded color space of the Samsung trying to get crammed into the color space of the Sony resulting in loss of something.  But, it is a guess only.  The red push, I have no clue.
 Bottom line—while I want my Atmos, I am not willing to sacrifice my picture to get it.  The DSU of Atmos does such an excellent job that I can live with it.
 So, I am returning the Samsung to BB.  And, I am either selling the HD Fury Integral here (see in other post) or returning it to Legendsky for a refund.
 The HD Fury seems to function flawlessly.  However, it is basically for people who have purchased an HD/4K/whatever high def TV set or projector that is NOT HDCP 2.2 compliant.  Otherwise, I am not sure how much benefit you will derive.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on March 10, 2016, 15:44
Here's someone who prefers his BR to the UHD discs on the Samsung:
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/90-receivers-amps-processors/1574386-official-dolby-atmos-thread-home-theater-version-1300.html#post42267665


I always envy the Americans who can get to play with new toys and if they don't like it...simply return for a refund. Here in Singapore, even placing a reasonable deposit for home trial also difficult to find. :(
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: jeffong on March 10, 2016, 16:00
Maybe it's selling at the IT Show @ Suntec already?  ;D
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on March 10, 2016, 16:12
Maybe it's selling at the IT Show @ Suntec already?  ;D

According to the Samsung sales reps, its otw...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: jdc115 on March 10, 2016, 17:35
yeap.. people are known to buy large screen TVs to watch the Superbowl and return then after
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on March 11, 2016, 03:33
I always envy the Americans who can get to play with new toys and if they don't like it...simply return for a refund. Here in Singapore, even placing a reasonable deposit for home trial also difficult to find. :(


Think about it....it add to the cost of buying brand new stuff too....and worse still, you got one of the "used" units after you paid full price.  The "recycled" units, it got to go somewhere, wouldn't it?  Yes, into the hands of the people who intends to purchase it brand new and have no plan to return it.  You think about it, how could a dealer continue to support such abuse from the consumer??

(Audio)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: jdc115 on March 11, 2016, 06:55
Think about it....it add to the cost of buying brand new stuff too....and worse still, you got one of the "used" units after you paid full price.  The "recycled" units, it got to go somewhere, wouldn't it?  Yes, into the hands of the people who intends to purchase it brand new and have no plan to return it.  You think about it, how could a dealer continue to support such abuse from the consumer??

(Audio)

Return policies are more aligned to normal retail shops and not high end dealers.  Things like Best Buy, Target, etc.  Surprisingly, it isn't really abused as you think it would be.  If items were returned with "no issue" just didn't want it, they would usually be tested and checked and put back in the originally packaging to be sold at a discount as an "open item."  But they also would come with the same return policy if you found an issue as well as full warranty from the manufacture.

High End shops are not likely to do that.  But if you have a good relationship with them, I think you can often get a demo piece to use for a home trial.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on March 12, 2016, 21:10
Wife went and collect on my behalf and told me that it is quite light for a player, she went and de-boxed it.

(http://audio.sg/pic/uhd-k8500-1.jpg)
(http://audio.sg/pic/uhd-k8500-2.jpg)
(http://audio.sg/pic/uhd-k8500-3.jpg)
(http://audio.sg/pic/uhd-k8500-4.jpg)

And sorry Petetherock, only 115VAC, NO 220VAC.
(http://audio.sg/pic/uhd-k8500-5.jpg)

(Audio)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on March 12, 2016, 22:15
Thanks for the feedback bro Audio
A pity although a simple transformer will do the trick too ..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: cstanxpl on March 16, 2016, 10:14
First 4K player review

http://www.whathifi.com/panasonic/dmp-ub900/review
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on March 23, 2016, 19:40
First 4K player review

http://www.whathifi.com/panasonic/dmp-ub900/review
GBP 600... wooo
At least it's 220-240 rated..
Things are hotting up...
Perhaps there will be a gen 2 for Xmas and some promo... here's hoping...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: durianlover88 on March 23, 2016, 19:42
Problem is it is region B...eben though 4K BR is region free...there is a huge nuts load of current region A BRs.....
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on March 24, 2016, 01:36
I am holding back the review.  Not exactly day and night....a lot goes into the mastering of the 4K disc.

But I can say that the picture quality of Mad Max -Fury Road is really something to behold.  I am having mixed feelings about Martian though. 

There is something about the surround sound...seems to have better "steering".

I need more viewing to confirm. Will be away for the weekend,  can only continue next week.

(Audio)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on March 24, 2016, 06:48
Everyone is raving about HDR and wider color gamut on the 5000ES with the Martian. :P
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on March 24, 2016, 06:48
Ps you selling your 1100ES? :D
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on March 24, 2016, 06:53
Ps you selling your 1100ES? :D
If I recall... 1100ES doesn't have HDR support. Need to check again...

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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on March 24, 2016, 07:03
Now Philips enters the fray, and at a Samsung level pricing..http://www.digitaltrends.com/home-theater/phillips-4k-uhd-blu-ray-all-hdr-4k-tv-lineup/
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on March 24, 2016, 07:23
Now Philips enters the fray, and at a Samsung level pricing..http://www.digitaltrends.com/home-theater/phillips-4k-uhd-blu-ray-all-hdr-4k-tv-lineup/

Oh yes...more plz. :D
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on March 24, 2016, 07:40
No, I am not selling my 1100ES.  Yes, it cannot support HDR but hell, I have been enjoying exceptional 1080p upscaled 4K enteratinment for over 2 years.  So good is the picture quality, now I am havimg a hard time making out just how good native 4K media is.

Having a higher dynamic range for picture is a good thing but sometimes, we need the details to come in as well.  It is just like Audio....dynamic and loud doesn't means good...you need details to come in as well.  LOL, sell the 1100ES and go for plastic lens?

On the 1100ES, HDMI 1 input is not 2.2 HDCP compliance.  The player will force output down to 1080p.  You need to connect the UHD-K8500 to HDMI 2 to stay at 4K resolution.

Also an alert to potential owners, they had been talks on various forums that many bought defective units with blinking red power led and had to return them.  Well, yes, mine came with blinking red power LED as well!!  But the tray can be ejected and the screen display the setup menu.  They also prompt you to download the upgrade to firmware 003 and wahla, the power LED turned to steady green after boot-up.

(Audio)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: jeffong on March 24, 2016, 09:43
But I can say that the picture quality of Mad Max -Fury Road is really something to behold.  I am having mixed feelings about Martian though. 

(Audio)

Given that I don't have a 4K display at this moment, the only thing that I can test is connecting to my existing 1080p projector and based on a quick A/B comparison of the regular Bluray and the downrezzed 4K Bluray image, I do notice additional detail shown on the downrezzed 4K playback of the Martian movie.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on March 24, 2016, 19:06

If I recall... 1100ES doesn't have HDR support. Need to check again...

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I'm psychoing Audio to upgrade. So I can have his 1100ES :D
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on March 24, 2016, 19:08

LOL, sell the 1100ES and go for plastic lens?


As far as I know the 5000ES doesn't use plastic lens :D
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on March 24, 2016, 19:25
No, I am not selling my 1100ES.  Yes, it cannot support HDR but hell, I have been enjoying exceptional 1080p upscaled 4K enteratinment for over 2 years.  So good is the picture quality, now I am havimg a hard time making out just how good native 4K media is.

Having a higher dynamic range for picture is a good thing but sometimes, we need the details to come in as well. 

(Audio)

Exactly my thoughts...I really liked my VW500ES and like you mentioned, it really produce an outstanding near-4K upscaling image quality easily for any 1080p source that I throw at it.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on March 24, 2016, 19:27
As far as I know the 5000ES doesn't use plastic lens :D

VW5000ES is the crown jewel right now if you can afford one...so if you are super "rich" and wanted the best of in everything - 4K, HDMI 2.0a for HDR, WCG and more importantly, laser!!! This is definitely the one to go for!
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on March 24, 2016, 19:38
VW5000ES is the crown jewel right now if you can afford one...so if you are super "rich" and wanted the best of in everything - 4K, HDMI 2.0a for HDR, WCG and more importantly, laser!!! This is definitely the one to go for!


See Audio.. endorsed by desray. what else do u need? :D

Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on March 24, 2016, 19:42
See Audio.. endorsed by desray. what else do u need? :D



Cannot be bro Audio won't want to upgrade to a VW5000ES if he really gets a gooood deal...even half the MSRP, I also cannot afford it but I bet Bro Audio, no issue. Unlike him, I have to literally take a bank loan (if really want it) and pay for 2 - 3yrs just to get my hands on this baby! LoL...better wake up from my day dream!

Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: StephenBishop on March 26, 2016, 10:07

.........On the 1100ES, HDMI 1 input is not 2.2 HDCP compliance.  The player will force output down to 1080p.  You need to connect the UHD-K8500 to HDMI 2 to stay at 4K resolution.....

(Audio)
My apologies in advance for a slightly off topic post.

Audio, how on earth did you figure this out!! I have been struggling for months trying to get a Netflix UHD steam to project from an Nvidia Shield through a Marantz 8802 into the Sony 1100ES. Tried all sorts of workarounds without success until I saw your post and then voila!! The HDCP 2.2. compliance only with HDMI 2 is not included anywhere in the manual.

Thanks for posting this.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on March 29, 2016, 10:38
My apologies in advance for a slightly off topic post.

Audio, how on earth did you figure this out!! I have been struggling for months trying to get a Netflix UHD steam to project from an Nvidia Shield through a Marantz 8802 into the Sony 1100ES. Tried all sorts of workarounds without success until I saw your post and then voila!! The HDCP 2.2. compliance only with HDMI 2 is not included anywhere in the manual.

Thanks for posting this.

It is this kind of feedback that makes my day.  I will be wearing a smile across my face for the rest of the day.   :)

(Audio)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Tiktokape on March 29, 2016, 10:51
Audio, have you tried opening your Samsung up to check the voltage?


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on March 29, 2016, 10:59
Audio, have you tried opening your Samsung up to check the voltage?


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Opening up the player?  Why?

(Audio)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Tiktokape on March 29, 2016, 12:07
Opening up the player?  Why?

(Audio)
It was posted that the internal part have showed 100 to 240v, 50 to 60Hz, 2A, just wondering your set is indeed as well.  No worries if hassle. Cheers!
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on March 29, 2016, 13:14
Is it?  Ok, I will open it up tonight and hopefully post favourable pictures.

(Audio)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on March 30, 2016, 01:08
My web server is down and I can't post pictures until this coming weekend.  I opened the Samsung player but found nothing conclusive that suggests it will accepted 220VAC input.  They did mention a 250VAC fuse rating on the PCB but nothing else indicate 220VAC operation.....don't think anyone would want to risk it.  :)

(Audio)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: jeffong on April 02, 2016, 10:29
Audio, not sure if you are aware of this but if you were to redeem your Ultraviolet codes for some of your UHD discs on the Vudu site directly, you will be given access to the UHD digital copy.  I tried this for my Mad Max Fury Road title and the UHD access was unlocked.

Vudu currently has about 34 UHD Digital titles out of which I think we can redeem about 4 titles namely PAN, Lego Movie, Mad Max and San Andreas.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Tiktokape on April 02, 2016, 10:46
Thanks Audio for the trouble


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on April 02, 2016, 11:41
I don't think we are in the same region for the UV codes.. tried it before without success
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Tiktokape on April 02, 2016, 13:46
I don't think we are in the same region for the UV codes.. tried it before without success
Even with enabled VPN?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: jeffong on April 02, 2016, 13:55
I have no problems redeeming UV or iTunes codes thru the StrongVPN service. As for playback on Vudu, it works for ViewQwest customers who have the Freedom VPN add-on. May refresh my iMac for the new Retina 5K just to enjoy UHD playback for the time being until LG launches the G6 OLED TV.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on April 02, 2016, 13:57
Even with enabled VPN?
No VPN bro :(
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Tiktokape on April 02, 2016, 14:01
No VPN bro :(
You should trial Smart DNS and give it a go.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Tiktokape on April 02, 2016, 14:03
I have no problems redeeming UV or iTunes codes thru the StrongVPN service. As for playback on Vudu, it works for ViewQwest customers who have the Freedom VPN add-on. May refresh my iMac for the new Retina 5K just to enjoy UHD playback for the time being until LG launches the G6 OLED TV.
Does current 4K BR releases throw in 4K UV codes?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: jeffong on April 02, 2016, 15:03
Does current 4K BR releases throw in 4K UV codes?

I only know about the 4 titles mentioned earlier on VUDU. Sony will launch a new 4K streaming site on Monday which can be linked to UV as well. So it's possible that UV codes on those Sony 4K titles (i.e. Spidey 2, Chappie) may allow 4K digital stream playback. Will try it out on Monday and report back.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on April 02, 2016, 15:29
IMO, we will see 4k players on the local scene closer to X Mas.. we tend to be slower in the uptake. Even now, players are not readily available in Europe or Australia, so I think it will be a while before it comes here.
The dearth of titles locally is also an indicator that it won't come that soon.
But the 4k TV makers will be keen to push for this, so I am thinking after the next CEDIA / CES, we will see some action on the home front.


Thank you bro Audio and Jeff for sharing.


Hopefully there will be some deals over Black Friday..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on April 02, 2016, 15:30
You should trial Smart DNS and give it a go.
I finally fixed that DNS Unlocker issue, so installing new stuff isn't really attractive for me.. in fact I am quite paranoid about IT stuff...believe it or not :)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: jeffong on April 02, 2016, 16:44
Given that my 4K OLED display is still some months out, just wondering if there are any Bros already equipped with a 4K HDR display (preferably 65 inch and above) keen to volunteer their place for a XP Pow-Wow and I can bring my 4K player and discs over for fellow members to experience UHD Blu-ray in the flesh and decide for themselves if it's hoopla or something to really look forward to.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on April 02, 2016, 17:51
I have a 79" LG ub980t 4K tv.
U can bring it over for demo session for bros!
Hehehe!!!!!
But I dunno if its HDR capable.
I believe my Onkyo tzr900 avr is hdr capable.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on April 02, 2016, 18:22
forgot to add, I am using the Oppo 103D bluray player too.

one more thing to add or bring along, would be the higher spec'd HDMI cable too...
that one I don't have yet...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: jeffong on April 03, 2016, 09:23
I have a 79" LG ub980t 4K tv.
U can bring it over for demo session for bros!
Hehehe!!!!!
But I dunno if its HDR capable.
I believe my Onkyo tzr900 avr is hdr capable.

Unfortunately your LG does not support HDR playback even though your receiver does.  Let's see if there are any other bros coming forward especially those having the Samsung JS9xxx series, Sony X940 before we decide as the key enticing feature in BD-UHD for me is actually HDR with 4K resolution being a secondary consideration.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on April 03, 2016, 10:04
alamak!!!
anyone wanna buy a 4K 79" LG UB980T??
No HDR!!! Damn!!
Hehehehehe!!!
 ;D
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on April 03, 2016, 10:50
I know this is anti-climax but the truth is the truth.

Blu Ray looks like DVD on the UHD-K8500.  No wonder I complained about "Spectre"and just 2 nights ago, I got a shock playing The Hateful Eight".  PQ was soft, the trees in the snowy scene looks soft.  This is playing the UHD-K8500 connected to the projector with a 2M certified 18GHz HDMI cable.

I transferred the disc to my Denon DVD-A1UD, playing back thru a 15M HDMI, ah, now, the picture looks amazing.....and I watched the whole movie thereafter, impressed with this movie's PQ and story.

Obviously, after the movie, I went to confirmed my finding by playing the BR disc on the Samsung player once again, yes, it fared worse.

This is the reason why I am not impressed with this Samsung player and could not comment on the performance of 4K UHD disc after being with the player for 2 weeks, we need a better player.  My advice to all is to skip this player and look forward to the next one.

(Audio)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: durianlover88 on April 03, 2016, 11:42
Panasonic UB900 - when are u coming?

Specifically on TV, I was reading this for HDR:
http://coloriq.com/better-together-combining-hdr-and-quantum-dots/

Mine is LG 65-UF860T - supports Quantum Dot/WCG, released Q3 last year.
Based on the article should be able to support both HDR versions.
I must say I really like the vibrant Colour. Happy eberytime when I on the TV for HD broadcasts or BR playback. Hopefully the HDR playback on 4K BR player will be a great one :)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on April 03, 2016, 12:15
For tikotape:- (My web server is up and running again)

(http://audio.sg/pic/uhdk8500int-01.jpg)
(http://audio.sg/pic/uhdk8500int-02.jpg)
(http://audio.sg/pic/uhdk8500int-03.jpg)

(Audio)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: jeffong on April 03, 2016, 12:44
Panasonic UB900 - when are u coming?

Specifically on TV, I was reading this for HDR:
http://coloriq.com/better-together-combining-hdr-and-quantum-dots/

Mine is LG 65-UF860T - supports Quantum Dot/WCG, released Q3 last year.
Based on the article should be able to support both HDR versions.
I must say I really like the vibrant Colour. Happy eberytime when I on the TV for HD broadcasts or BR playback. Hopefully the HDR playback on 4K BR player will be a great one :)

The UF860T is indeed equipped with ColorPrime (aka Wide Color Gamut) support.  Based on what I have read, all LG 2015 offerings can only support the Open Standard HDR10 which the current batch of 4K BD's releases support.  The other competing standard is the Dolby Vision std which currently some mfgs like Vizio and LG support in their 2016 TV's offerings.  The DV standard is gaining strength among streaming providers like Netflix and Vudu.  Unfortunately DV support is hardware based and cannot be software upgraded.  Hence, it's likely your UF860T cannot be upgraded to support Dolby Vision.  There is a 3rd std being worked on by BBC and there's talk that software upgrade to support this may be possible.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on April 03, 2016, 12:48
Bro Audio:
Is it some setting, or cable? Otherwise you are right, it will be a disappointment if it fairs worse than a typical 1.4HDMI Full HD player..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: jeffong on April 03, 2016, 12:52
Audio, try fiddling around with the Deep Color setting on the 4K player.  Have read somewhere that this setting creates unforeseen quality results with certain display devices when playing back BD titles.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on April 03, 2016, 13:08
I know this is anti-climax but the truth is the truth.

Blu Ray looks like DVD on the UHD-K8500.  No wonder I complained about "Spectre"and just 2 nights ago, I got a shock playing The Hateful Eight".  PQ was soft, the trees in the snowy scene looks soft.  This is playing the UHD-K8500 connected to the projector with a 2M certified 18GHz HDMI cable.

I transferred the disc to my Denon DVD-A1UD, playing back thru a 15M HDMI, ah, now, the picture looks amazing.....and I watched the whole movie thereafter, impressed with this movie's PQ and story.

Obviously, after the movie, I went to confirmed my finding by playing the BR disc on the Samsung player once again, yes, it fared worse.

This is the reason why I am not impressed with this Samsung player and could not comment on the performance of 4K UHD disc after being with the player for 2 weeks, we need a better player.  My advice to all is to skip this player and look forward to the next one.

(Audio)
Thanks for the confirmation. I'm glad I didn't get the samsung k8500 after reading less than stellar reviews on the PQ. I will reserve my comments on the new Penny 4k player despite some positive reviews from a handful.


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on April 03, 2016, 13:50
Since we are touching on HDR and it's 2 standards, SMPTE HDR 10 and dolby's very own Dolby Vision. For those confused as to how to select a 4K UHD TV that supports HDR, look out for the logo that says Ultra HD Premium.

HDR 10 is the baseline standard for all HDR content. Like what Jeff Ong mentioned, For Dolby Vision to work as advertised,  it requires the the player to have Dolby Vision.

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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: durianlover88 on April 03, 2016, 17:10
I think HDR10 should be good to last a Long while...at least enjoy the 4K UHD BRs first until Dolby Vision or BBC other standards comes about....esp if UHD BR only bundles HDR10 for a Long while...just coming from practical point of view unless want to future proof or dun mind waiting and waiting (for a white Xmas)

Last night I watched Coraline again...wow...cannot imagine if HDR what will happen...at one stage the black and white display had my eyes almost blinded....if with HDR10 or Dolby Vision increased nits to few thousand....Wai Sai!!!
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on April 03, 2016, 17:12
So even Sony's laser 4K will be obsolete? cos no Dolby Vision HDR?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on April 03, 2016, 17:26
So even Sony's laser 4K will be obsolete? cos no Dolby Vision HDR?

In a way, you are not wrong as I dun recall seeing Dolby Vision as part of the HDR package. But having say that, using laser as the light source, it will have plenty of light output to take advantage of Dolby Vision imo. The thing with Dolby Vision is that you require a hardware decoder on board the display (in this case VW5000ES) to make it work. Dolby Vision can hit as high as 12bit and some have claimed that the PQ between intra-scenes have better dynamic range between whitest white and blackest black. Unless of course, Sony is gonna offer an hardware upgrade in the near future...

Dolby Vision is definitely a "force" to be reckoned with since Netflix and Vudu (streaming companies) already offering Dolby Vision for its movies. But for now, I think HDR10 should be enough to make everyone saying , "WoW!"...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on April 03, 2016, 18:05
Heady days of early adopters... not everything is worked out yet... thanks for trying it bros..
I don't think it's a total loss. It's quite affordable, and if nothing else, it plays DVDs, BRs and 4k, albeit not to it's best..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: jeffong on April 03, 2016, 19:00
Wah piang you guys think too much lah.. What's S$6xx to enjoy 4K UHD playback for at least 6 to 9 months before Oppo get their act together and release their first 4K player.  I'm already thankful that the discs only cost US$29.99 when they could have been priced at the $39.99 mark or higher.  For now, I'm only investing in discs that are crafted from a 4K DI at the minimum.  Now I'm just hopeful that LG release their 2016 OLED G6/E6 within the next month or so.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: jeffong on April 03, 2016, 19:05
In a way, you are not wrong as I dun recall seeing Dolby Vision as part of the HDR package. But having say that, using laser as the light source, it will have plenty of light output to take advantage of Dolby Vision imo. The thing with Dolby Vision is that you require a hardware decoder on board the display (in this case VW5000ES) to make it work. Dolby Vision can hit as high as 12bit and some have claimed that the PQ between intra-scenes have better dynamic range between whitest white and blackest black. Unless of course, Sony is gonna offer an hardware upgrade in the near future...

Dolby Vision is definitely a "force" to be reckoned with since Netflix and Vudu (streaming companies) already offering Dolby Vision for its movies. But for now, I think HDR10 should be enough to make everyone saying , "WoW!"...


I read in one of the AVS forum thread that major players like Sony, Panny and Samsung did not adopt DV support because Dolby packages DV as a total video processing solution which would render whatever custom video processing that these players have worked on over the years moot.  Hence, it's possible we may not see DV support for these 3 players at all if this speculation was true.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on April 03, 2016, 19:15
I read in one of the AVS forum thread that major players like Sony, Panny and Samsung did not adopt DV support because Dolby packages DV as a total video processing solution which would render whatever custom video processing that these players have worked on over the years moot.  Hence, it's possible we may not see DV support for these 3 players at all if this speculation was true.
Dolby is really an enigma, I thought Dolby is also the one or part of the team in SMPTE that help develop the HDR 10? If so,  why bother to even come up with its very own competing HDR format,  the Dolby Vision when they could continue to make HDR 10 into a better format? Wouldn't it be IN Dolby's best interest to make HDR 10 work? I say,  Dolby has been greedy and wanted the "plate' that holds the entire pie.

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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Tiktokape on April 03, 2016, 19:53
For tikotape:- (My web server is up and running again)

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Thanks Audio!
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: jeffong on April 03, 2016, 20:05
Here's the thread that I was referring to earlier about Dolby Vision.. pretty intense discussion going on there..

http://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-lcd-flat-panel-displays/2377090-real-reason-sony-samsung-aren-t-using-dolby-vision.html
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on April 03, 2016, 20:19
Any summary?
What do we need to really get 4k going?


You are one of the pioneers here, quietly trying out new like, along with bro Audio!
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: jeffong on April 03, 2016, 20:34
Any summary?
What do we need to really get 4k going?


You are one of the pioneers here, quietly trying out new like, along with bro Audio!

Don't get caught up in the controversy and just enjoy 4K UHD for what it is now. It's always going to be evolving and life is too short anyway.  Care to join me in dumping your Samsung plasma and jumping into OLED..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on April 03, 2016, 20:53
My plasma is doing fine :)
When OLED tech matures, and prices come down, I will get a 80" 4k OLED... for now, I am glad my Samsung works..
And my Kuro is doing well in my mum's home..


Come by on May Day bro...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on April 06, 2016, 06:18
An interesting opinion and review of the woes of using 4K:
http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=18524


I wouldn't put my Centre speaker on the floor though...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: alf on April 06, 2016, 10:16
In short it is still not very stable to get the 4K/UHD yet , still at is infancy stage .

So what will happened to those early adopters of TV and  Projector, that was promises possible up grades to meet the current signal formats ?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: durianlover88 on April 07, 2016, 11:05
http://www.techradar.com/sg/reviews/audio-visual/blu-ray-players/panasonic-dmp-ub900-1312558/review
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on April 07, 2016, 12:19
(http://audio.sg/pic/dmpud900order.jpg)

Don't know what happened....lewlian lover posted the review and I ended up with this.....

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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: durianlover88 on April 07, 2016, 12:43
Bought from where ah? Delivery 204 pounds ah! Should have tombang ah?
BR is Region B ah?
Wah buay tahan ah!!
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on April 07, 2016, 13:04
Bought from where ah? Delivery 204 pounds ah! Should have tombang ah?
BR is Region B ah?
Wah buay tahan ah!!

Hey, I have not thought of the zone...alamak!!  MATI!

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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on April 07, 2016, 13:17
i had the chance to carry the panasonic player in japan..
its a bloody heavy machine!!
i guess thats y its 204pounds for shipping.
if u buy from japan its region "A" for blurays.. region 2 for dvd's.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on April 07, 2016, 13:21
i had the chance to carry the panasonic player in japan..
its a bloody heavy machine!!
i guess thats y its 204pounds for shipping.
if u buy from japan its region "A" for blurays.. region 2 for dvd's.


Which player you carry from Japan?  This one is only available in UK for now.

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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on April 07, 2016, 13:23
no bro... i didnt buy it...
i jus carried it on the spot in the shop in japan...
they are already selling it about a month ago.
thats all i did.
n it weighed a ton!!
i think it was close to 5kgs??
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on April 07, 2016, 13:25
in 2 days time i am going to osaka...
gonna get me some cables...
not interested in this UHD player yet..
 ;D
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on April 07, 2016, 13:27
n the player does not come with multi voltage option..
i checked the behind of the player too.
its a pure 100v for japanese market only.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on April 07, 2016, 13:29
n it doesnt play SACD n DVD-A...
so, no way i wanna buy it...
no option for jailbreak for multi region too...
 :'(
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: durianlover88 on April 07, 2016, 13:32
You sure you didn't weigh in the UBZ1? Hard to imagine UB900 weighs 5kg
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on April 07, 2016, 13:33
You meant the DMR-UBZ1 which is available in Japan since late last year.

That one costs 300,000+ yen (More than $3,000+), 100VAC and all Japanese (no english) Menu.  But it has recorder function for the Japanese TV stations.............

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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on April 07, 2016, 13:35
damn!!! i didnt take a pic of it!!
nevermind, i will be in japan in 2 days time..
this time i will take a pic of it..
dunno if i got the models mixed up!!
 ;D
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: durianlover88 on April 07, 2016, 13:36
No need go for recorder....my LG UF860T has got the DVR in WebOS2.0. Plugged a 2.5 inch 4TB Seagate HDD to the USB port can le...all in HD glory.

I am surprised UB900 cannot play sacd...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on April 07, 2016, 13:37
it had the same faceplate.. pull down kind..
n its a fingerprint magnet too!
 ;D
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on April 07, 2016, 13:38
it cant play SACD, but it does DSD 2.8 plus the 5.6
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on April 07, 2016, 13:46
yup, in the UK panny url it says 2.4kgs...

http://www.panasonic.com/uk/consumer/home-entertainment/blu-ray-and-dvd/dmp-ub900eb.specs.html
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on April 07, 2016, 18:30
Hey, I have not thought of the zone...alamak!!  MATI!

(Audio)

4K BR no zone lock outs. Just can't play Region A FullHD BR
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: durianlover88 on April 07, 2016, 18:33
Am seriously considering to get UB900 or not like Broler Audio.
Means only use it play 4K BR.

Keep the Theta Compli Blu 3D for FHD BRs, DVD-A, and multichannel SACDs...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: durianlover88 on April 07, 2016, 18:36
Seems like a norm the 4K drives are not supporting SACDs
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on April 07, 2016, 19:10
Buy it for just one purpose.... Play 4K UHD disc.

This one not so easy decision like the Samsung but like they say, you get what you paid for.

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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on April 07, 2016, 19:35
Seems like a norm the 4K drives are not supporting SACDs
Maybe it's the laser issue. Or they just want to keep costs down for the first batch..
Anyways, let's see if it's released in UK when I visit.. :)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: durianlover88 on April 07, 2016, 19:37
Means need another set of 4 Ansuz DTC footers...sweat..

Broler Audio, where you orler ah?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: durianlover88 on April 07, 2016, 19:40
Otherwise gonna wait till end of year?......twiddle fingers and do nothing....
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on April 07, 2016, 19:41
Otherwise gonna wait till end of year?......twiddle fingers and do nothing....
http://www.superfi.co.uk/p-17884-panasonic-dmpub900-4k-uhd-blu-ray-player.aspx?VariantHid=41829&gclid=COv7j7Xep8sCFcYcGwodwdoOvg

599 GBP - maybe you can vpost it over...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: durianlover88 on April 07, 2016, 19:43
Great idea....should not need 204GBP hopefully
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on April 07, 2016, 20:25
Bought from Pure Theatre.

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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: durianlover88 on April 07, 2016, 20:32
Saw this at AVS Forum:

I've been in contact with Oppo and they told me their 103 UHD replacement will be coming in the Fall, and the 105 replacement will be in the winter months. So I'll have to wait around 6 or so months for them to produce their first player. And Oppo allows for gapless audio playback off USB and it will support DVD-A and SACD discs. I want to put the audio from the player out the HDMI output into a Bryston BDA-3 DAC. So Panasonic is out for me unless the specs change. I suspect the Oppo won't be any more expensive, maybe even cost less, then the Panasonic.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: durianlover88 on April 07, 2016, 20:35
Broler Audio, your set like 100GBP cheaper wor...got the Mad Max & San Andreas UHD discs boh?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on April 07, 2016, 20:41
Cannot look so much....I know paying 204 british pounds for shipping is like craps....but handling it to Vpost?  Please lah, forget it.  As long as item reach me safety and in good time, that 204 GP is worth it.

Samsung is US$399, I paid $91 with GST.  This time, it come directly to HK, no tax.....by UPS Express.

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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: durianlover88 on April 07, 2016, 20:46
I guess Pure Theatre 499GBP unit price is probably taking off the UK VAT, so effectively you paid 104GBP for shipping...a bigger grin for you :)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on April 07, 2016, 23:48
i got an email from the vendor.  This is a pre-order.  They get units from Panasonics around 22 Apr.

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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on April 08, 2016, 14:12
Buying a sub-standard samsung player,
Paying 204 British Pound for shipping,
Kanna wait till 22 Apr before the player can ship.......

It is beginning to WORTH ALL THE PAIN.....

(http://audio.sg/pic/4kuhdstartrek.jpg)


YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Available in June!!

(Audio)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on April 08, 2016, 15:05
Bro
Which samsung are you importing from UK?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Tiktokape on April 08, 2016, 15:10
Bro
Which samsung are you importing from UK?
The one he bought from USA via Vpost while he needs to wait for Panny one from UK.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on April 08, 2016, 16:47
I should do a MO for the Panasonic when I go over :)
Will only collect half the shipping fee :)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on April 08, 2016, 16:51
I should do a MO for the Panasonic when I go over :)
Will only collect half the shipping fee :)

Yah, but you will be paying VAT.  I know because I am flying to London on the 22 Apr and yet I chose to pay the shipping.....

(Audio)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on April 10, 2016, 14:46
Yah, but you will be paying VAT.  I know because I am flying to London on the 22 Apr and yet I chose to pay the shipping.....

(Audio)
Actually why don't you just walk into a High Street Shop, eg at Tottenham Courts Road and then claim VAT at the airport?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on April 10, 2016, 14:46
Sony is also getting in, but no ETA yet:
http://4k.com/news/sony-is-going-to-release-its-first-4k-ultra-hd-blu-ray-movies-with-hdr-and-next-gen-audio-in-early-2016-10531/ (http://4k.com/news/sony-is-going-to-release-its-first-4k-ultra-hd-blu-ray-movies-with-hdr-and-next-gen-audio-in-early-2016-10531/)


And Oppo wants to play too - ETA "holidays" i.e. Xmas??
http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1453292591
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on April 10, 2016, 17:03

This is the chip you want in your 4k player:
http://www.cnx-software.com/2016/01/06/mediatek-mt8581-media-processor-supports-4k-uhd-blu-rays-10-bit-h-265-vp9-and-hdr-imaging/
If I understand correctly, both the Panasonic and Philips Blu-Ray players releasing in the next few weeks will lack Dolby Vision (according to the manufacturers), but the Sony player that is rumored to be released by the end of this year or the beginning of 2017 may include this SoC from MediaTek..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on April 11, 2016, 16:36
there's a new firmware update for the Panny 4k player.. jus a heads up for owner's....
n yup, I didn't see any ub900 for sale in japan..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: durianlover88 on April 11, 2016, 17:11
Really seriously thinking UB900...otherwise must wait for a White XMAS.
Wait for Theta release will be eben longer...
Anyway my TV is only able support HDR10...still utilise Theta for DVD, DVD-A, MCH SACD, and maybe take it as ability to play UK region BR and DVDs....I wonder why I am thinking so Long...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on April 11, 2016, 17:16
Actually why don't you just walk into a High Street Shop, eg at Tottenham Courts Road and then claim VAT at the airport?

What if the shop don't have stock?   What if shop got stock but cannot admin the VAT for me?

Less one big box to carry...less fuss....more time to enjoy the west end musical.....The purpose of this trip is to watch Glenn Close in Sunset Boulevard.

"Just one look........"

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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: durianlover88 on April 12, 2016, 08:19
Ok...I hit purchase button for Panny UB900 from Pure Theatre....now can stop thinking about it and look forward to its arrival. Total damage 689 GBP.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on April 12, 2016, 09:25
Good news....I got company.   :)

Did you see that 500+ GBP option for shipping?   :)

(Audio)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: durianlover88 on April 12, 2016, 09:57
No...only two UPS options, GBP190 and GBP193
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: StephenBishop on April 12, 2016, 21:33
Region 2 DVD and region B Bluray? Anyway to change regions?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Wilber on April 12, 2016, 22:37
Region 2 DVD and region B Bluray? Anyway to change regions?

you can't change the encoded region. the only way to change is on your player only if there's such function.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on April 12, 2016, 23:56
or u can wait for those internet websites selling hardware region mod kits.
that will be the best bet.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on April 13, 2016, 00:12
Why bother?  You buy this only to play 4K UHD.  You want to play DVD or Blu Ray, use your current player.

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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on April 13, 2016, 00:16
true true.... as 4K UHD disc's are region less.
 ;D
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: durianlover88 on April 13, 2016, 00:50
Pure Theatre responded:

'Player comes with these 2 UHD disks and they are due to arrive with us on the 23rd. This means we will ship this out on a priority service on the 23rd.'
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on April 13, 2016, 09:25
Until someone like Oppo comes out with a universal voltage player, it's all a compromise..
So you get a USA version and use it with a transformer, or a UK / OZ version and you won't be able to use it with Region A discs. At least when it comes out in Oz, they are usually code free for DVDs.
So I am still considering if I want to put down almost 1k Sing for a player when I visit UK..
If you read AVS, it's amazing how many folks are unhappy with the teething problems of connecting up a 4k chain. Of course you could say that only the negative comments get posted..

Again, heady times :)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on April 14, 2016, 13:04
French review of the Panny:
http://www.audiovideohd.fr/tests/448-Panasonic-DMP-UB900-0.html
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on April 14, 2016, 13:05
BTW there is some talk that the Oppo 4k player or at least the 103 replacement will be in USA by 'fall'.. so it might be a good idea to hang loose..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on April 15, 2016, 22:41
Panny buyers
GOOD NEWS!!!
http://www.regionfreedom.com/index.php/enhanced-firmware/panasonic-blu-ray-players/44-dmp-ub900/74-dmp-ub900-enhanced-firmware-1-02a-for-selected-models-eb-eg-gn


Region free hack :)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Tiktokape on April 15, 2016, 22:45
So meaning I can click the cart out button for Panny?


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: durianlover88 on April 15, 2016, 23:00
Heng ah! Now is like a no brainier :)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on April 15, 2016, 23:03
So meaning I can click the cart out button for Panny?


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Never did this, and I don't have a Panny, so I need to declare that I am just posting a link :)
Hopeful..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on April 17, 2016, 07:26
https://www.avforums.com/review/panasonic-dmp-ub900-4k-ultra-hd-blu-ray-player-review.12538
A Panasonic review..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on April 18, 2016, 23:35
Another Panasonic review:
http://www.trustedreviews.com/panasonic-dmp-ub900-review#ZBL3WjPEI6w7pLFZ.99

It is expected to hit USA in August. No idea when it will be in SG..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on April 18, 2016, 23:43
Good news....I got company.   :)

Did you see that 500+ GBP option for shipping?   :)

(Audio)

Available off Amazon UK..
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Panasonic-4K-Ultra-Blu-Ray-Player/dp/B01CGC6JC2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_1&smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE

31 GBP for shipping, plus another 30 for GST..
But you get 20% VAT taken off.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: durianlover88 on April 20, 2016, 19:52
I dunno about Broler Audio, but my neck bery long now waiting for Panny UB900 to be shipped out world record time to my home...hopefully can receive it on Monday or latest Tuesday. The full 4K chain would be completed: UB900 -> LG 65UF860T (10-bit HDR), UB900 -> Marantz 8802A for audio. Have got Martian, Sicario, San Andreas & Mad Max (both bundled with Panny), and Revenant arriving late next week :)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on April 20, 2016, 20:08
I hope don't arrive too soon.  I will be away in UK.  Only be back on May 1.  Go back to work on 3 May...I think box will be at my desk.
'
I will let Bro DurianLover report his findings......

(Audio)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on April 21, 2016, 21:30
Samsung anyone? Free shipping in Oz:
https://www.rio.com.au/product/samsung-ubd-k8500-4k-ultra-hd-blu-ray-player-with-hdr-pre-order-limted-stock


That means it will be 230v, and compatible with Singapore voltage without a transformer..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on April 22, 2016, 10:28
Samsung anyone? Free shipping in Oz:
https://www.rio.com.au/product/samsung-ubd-k8500-4k-ultra-hd-blu-ray-player-with-hdr-pre-order-limted-stock

That means it will be 230v, and compatible with Singapore voltage without a transformer..

Frankly, I have not touch my Samsung ever since I discovered that the picture is soft.  What's the point? 

My whole pile of 4K UHD discs are still shrink wrapped.

(Audio)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on April 22, 2016, 23:20
Pure Theatre had charged the player payment onto my credit card and is shipping!  It will arrive in my office on Monday.

Bro DurainLover, please take note.

(Audio)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: durianlover88 on April 22, 2016, 23:31
Yes, around 9.30pm earlier the box already shipped out  :D :P
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: durianlover88 on April 23, 2016, 10:07
Estimate 28 Apr then deliver.....knn ah
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on April 23, 2016, 17:57
Frankly, I have not touch my Samsung ever since I discovered that the picture is soft.  What's the point? 

My whole pile of 4K UHD discs are still shrink wrapped.

(Audio)
Well the Samsung seems to impress this reviewer:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/johnarcher/2016/04/13/samsung-ubd-k8500-ultra-hd-blu-ray-player-review-a-decent-start/#40878af66c7d

Try it again bro?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on April 25, 2016, 05:32
Just read the review at page 2, the sentence just before the picture of the player :-
"This also means that the K8500’s pictures with native UHD and HDR content look slightly softer overall than those of the Panasonic deck."

I told you that the Samsung's picture is soft.  He just confirmed it.

(Audio)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: durianlover88 on April 26, 2016, 07:21
Broler Audio, just checked UPS Tracking site, player package still in Germany....paid 200 GBP for shipping 4Kg package...this is sigh....have your player reached HK?

(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h353/durianlover88/4B5F4754-AB7C-49B6-B1CE-27CCE56E4474.png) (http://s1105.photobucket.com/user/durianlover88/media/4B5F4754-AB7C-49B6-B1CE-27CCE56E4474.png.html)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on April 27, 2016, 05:58
Just reached Hong Kong, not delivered yet.

(http://audio.sg/pic/dmpub900-10.jpg)

(Audio)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: sje4182 on April 27, 2016, 08:29
Hi All

I see a quite a bit of discussion about shipping in blu ray players. Is it because local sets are sold at a much higher price or because the ones that you guys want (panny)is not available locally?

I am also getting a bit itchy to get a new BDP - currently using the Philips Fidelio player.

Thanks.

Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: dXter on April 27, 2016, 10:20
Bros here shipped in 4K or UHD players which locally is not available.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on April 27, 2016, 15:20
Doing community service.  Telling all the Bros here which new 4K player to get.  Please do not consider the Samsung.

(Audio)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Tiktokape on April 27, 2016, 16:08
Doing community service.  Telling all the Bros here which new 4K player to get.  Please do not consider the Samsung.

(Audio)
Muhahaha
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: DJQ on April 27, 2016, 16:19
then buy which 4K UHD player? SG dun have leh.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Tiktokape on April 27, 2016, 16:25
then buy which 4K UHD player? SG dun have leh.
Wait for Audio's verdict on Panny or sit tight till end of the year for other brands to roll out.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on April 27, 2016, 16:44
Yes Lor.  At least you now know that not all 4K player are the same.  Youdon't want to buy a 4K player because it is cheap.  If you want a 4K payer that has a soft picture, you as better off sticking with your DVD player.

(Audio)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: DIRTRUN on April 27, 2016, 16:46
I dunno..

Never would tink of getting a sammy player.. even if its cheap..

 ;)
D
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on April 27, 2016, 18:18

Wait for Audio's verdict on Panny or sit tight till end of the year for other brands to roll out.
+1
Year end, things may be clearer, and discs cheaper too..


(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS9VHPZ7RDrs5GUnfHDhiSK2yghOWTHJiqvNnP6nQKGx3jjFtg9)



BTW What HiFi gave the Panny a five star review.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: jdc115 on April 27, 2016, 19:49
+1
Year end, things may be clearer, and discs cheaper too..

Plus more content that is more to each persons liken.  If I can only find 1 title released that I would be interested to buy at the moment, it doesn't make sense to consider a player yet. 
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on April 28, 2016, 10:17
Australia gets their Panny in Sept:
http://www.theage.com.au/technology/gadgets-on-the-go/panasonic-unveils-australias-first-ultra-hd-bluray-player-20160428-gogw0v


Let's hope Oppo comes up with a unit by 2017. I suspect they will play a 'watch and see' game, and when standards are more stable, they will get the chips and put it into a chassis that works. I still feel the BDT 101 is a mule, so they can use the basic parts to construct a very well made 4k player.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on April 28, 2016, 16:40





This might be useful:
https://www.avforums.com/threads/marantz-sr7010-sr6010-owners-thread.1988471/page-68#post-23559223 (https://www.avforums.com/threads/marantz-sr7010-sr6010-owners-thread.1988471/page-68#post-23559223)


Quote from: Jase, post: 23559223, member: 7220
I don't know if this helps you at all and may be something you need to do on your TV/Display (if you haven't already). Spotted this in an OLED review:-


LG OLED55E6 4K HDR OLED TV Review (http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/oled55e6-201604274285.htm)


We sampled our collection of UHD Blu-ray titles on the LG 55E6, swapping between a Samsung UBD-K8500 and a Panasonic DMP-UB900 – the two 4K BD players available in the UK at this time of writing – as the video source. With both players, [HDMI Ultra HD Deep Colour] (buried in the TV’s [General] submenu) needs to be manually switched on for the specific HDMI port before proper 4K HDR playback can take place. Without the setting enabled, the Samsung K8500 would produce a picture riddled with posterization/ banding, crushed blacks and oversaturated reds; whereas the Panasonic UB900 wouldn’t even send the HDR metadata, opting to downconvert to SDR instead.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: durianlover88 on April 28, 2016, 22:44
(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h353/durianlover88/A1D9E09A-4D1B-4139-9D8B-760E65A441EC.jpg) (http://s1105.photobucket.com/user/durianlover88/media/A1D9E09A-4D1B-4139-9D8B-760E65A441EC.jpg.html)

(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h353/durianlover88/1E6A8D7F-0938-43EE-B654-8A03FF606769.jpg) (http://s1105.photobucket.com/user/durianlover88/media/1E6A8D7F-0938-43EE-B654-8A03FF606769.jpg.html)

(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h353/durianlover88/CB25ED16-81CA-4F8C-BE0F-5F39DFB20623.jpg) (http://s1105.photobucket.com/user/durianlover88/media/CB25ED16-81CA-4F8C-BE0F-5F39DFB20623.jpg.html)

(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h353/durianlover88/3160CCB3-0A1A-4532-952E-98079BFDED00.jpg) (http://s1105.photobucket.com/user/durianlover88/media/3160CCB3-0A1A-4532-952E-98079BFDED00.jpg.html)

(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h353/durianlover88/4626DDB2-2BDF-4323-B591-76EA081F109F.jpg) (http://s1105.photobucket.com/user/durianlover88/media/4626DDB2-2BDF-4323-B591-76EA081F109F.jpg.html)

(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h353/durianlover88/FEECDE9F-BBA1-4173-AF9D-73B08E483B72.jpg) (http://s1105.photobucket.com/user/durianlover88/media/FEECDE9F-BBA1-4173-AF9D-73B08E483B72.jpg.html)

(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h353/durianlover88/F8482C49-48B5-4DB9-A092-22E07561C31B.jpg) (http://s1105.photobucket.com/user/durianlover88/media/F8482C49-48B5-4DB9-A092-22E07561C31B.jpg.html)

(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h353/durianlover88/7695E3E9-2DC6-4095-8979-CAA413CB8804.jpg) (http://s1105.photobucket.com/user/durianlover88/media/7695E3E9-2DC6-4095-8979-CAA413CB8804.jpg.html)

(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h353/durianlover88/5F337205-9630-47F9-A53D-956AA4E691B8.jpg) (http://s1105.photobucket.com/user/durianlover88/media/5F337205-9630-47F9-A53D-956AA4E691B8.jpg.html)

(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h353/durianlover88/2D200BCE-ACE9-495E-BDB5-A0988FF69F98.jpg) (http://s1105.photobucket.com/user/durianlover88/media/2D200BCE-ACE9-495E-BDB5-A0988FF69F98.jpg.html)

(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h353/durianlover88/755F6A87-5347-4064-A6DF-E1B3B3D9AFEB.jpg) (http://s1105.photobucket.com/user/durianlover88/media/755F6A87-5347-4064-A6DF-E1B3B3D9AFEB.jpg.html)

In time for long weekend! :)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Wilber on April 28, 2016, 23:13
grats to your new toy!
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on April 28, 2016, 23:22
Nice bro.. hope I get an invite to see it in action sometime :)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on April 29, 2016, 08:30
Looking forward to the review...

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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: durianlover88 on April 29, 2016, 17:16
Will do this over the weekend... 4K I will try the functionality and with my 4K UHD BR...I will try the region freedom firmware update, check eberything still ok, then AB with Theta Compli 3D for full HD and audio. This Theta neber lost in countless AB duels in both video and audio....eberytime win big like 赵子龙.....that's my worry.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: DJQ on April 29, 2016, 17:50
Panasonic Osaka Japan. Assembled in Czech Republic?  Nothing from mainland Japan already huh.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Tiktokape on April 29, 2016, 18:07
Panasonic Osaka Japan. Assembled in Czech Republic?  Nothing from mainland Japan already huh.
It is meant for EU release so that explains the assembly location?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on April 29, 2016, 18:12
It is meant for EU release so that explains the assembly location?
+1, there may be different factories.. QC should be the same..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Tiktokape on April 29, 2016, 20:14
Japanese brands has shifted their factories to Eastern Europe countries(those with EU presence) to bring down costs on unprofitable/marginal business units.

Good return units are still based in Japan, using their pride to build competitive edge. Eg: CMOS by Sony, Stabiliser by ALPS Electric.


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: durianlover88 on April 30, 2016, 22:38
Setting up the player:

Update firmware first:
(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h353/durianlover88/66E97950-8C4A-4027-B748-07D91DC91976.jpg) (http://s1105.photobucket.com/user/durianlover88/media/66E97950-8C4A-4027-B748-07D91DC91976.jpg.html)

Select country UK, from choice of Ireland or UK.

Default screen when boot up:
(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h353/durianlover88/03D36751-EA08-4020-B71A-0CE4528A973B.jpg) (http://s1105.photobucket.com/user/durianlover88/media/03D36751-EA08-4020-B71A-0CE4528A973B.jpg.html)

The media apps screen:
(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h353/durianlover88/C142A188-BF68-4F65-8359-3B385B9F0A90.jpg) (http://s1105.photobucket.com/user/durianlover88/media/C142A188-BF68-4F65-8359-3B385B9F0A90.jpg.html)

Home Network screen:
(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h353/durianlover88/BD15AAF7-01AE-400B-A573-E70C4801F353.jpg) (http://s1105.photobucket.com/user/durianlover88/media/BD15AAF7-01AE-400B-A573-E70C4801F353.jpg.html)

Sound Menu TOP level summary options:
(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h353/durianlover88/6CF82E62-2125-48DE-9156-05FEA32DA079.jpg) (http://s1105.photobucket.com/user/durianlover88/media/6CF82E62-2125-48DE-9156-05FEA32DA079.jpg.html)

Digital Audio setting:
(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h353/durianlover88/8738D203-6089-4B5E-9D39-293A01F08F2F.jpg) (http://s1105.photobucket.com/user/durianlover88/media/8738D203-6089-4B5E-9D39-293A01F08F2F.jpg.html)

Prioritise Sound Quality for music playback:
(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h353/durianlover88/2711B616-9A55-4A41-A3CF-4137062AFF07.jpg) (http://s1105.photobucket.com/user/durianlover88/media/2711B616-9A55-4A41-A3CF-4137062AFF07.jpg.html)

Setting for high clarity sound:
(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h353/durianlover88/E58F6DC4-81BB-4212-A758-5B33426E54A1.jpg) (http://s1105.photobucket.com/user/durianlover88/media/E58F6DC4-81BB-4212-A758-5B33426E54A1.jpg.html)

4K resolution set:
(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h353/durianlover88/198066E9-419B-4F1A-BDD3-320E387C9EF0.jpg) (http://s1105.photobucket.com/user/durianlover88/media/198066E9-419B-4F1A-BDD3-320E387C9EF0.jpg.html)

Video hdmi for video only:
(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h353/durianlover88/33F6B368-6963-4735-8F10-17458DC936B4.jpg) (http://s1105.photobucket.com/user/durianlover88/media/33F6B368-6963-4735-8F10-17458DC936B4.jpg.html)

Audio HDMI for audio only:
(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h353/durianlover88/98655460-2323-459C-8CE0-847F2A68D480.jpg) (http://s1105.photobucket.com/user/durianlover88/media/98655460-2323-459C-8CE0-847F2A68D480.jpg.html)

Advanced Video setting:
(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h353/durianlover88/2DB23F34-D43D-4C52-BAC3-01A3A7ACB31C.jpg) (http://s1105.photobucket.com/user/durianlover88/media/2DB23F34-D43D-4C52-BAC3-01A3A7ACB31C.jpg.html)

I could not find any audio setting for valve type audio....
To be continued...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on May 01, 2016, 00:35
So for 4k sources, must you split the video and audio out? Is that compulsory? i.e. you can't simply use one HDMI out?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: durianlover88 on May 01, 2016, 01:10
Continued....

Using just arrived Revenant 4K HDR BR:
(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h353/durianlover88/8D5D499B-805F-40A5-8B21-F25913F69590.jpg) (http://s1105.photobucket.com/user/durianlover88/media/8D5D499B-805F-40A5-8B21-F25913F69590.jpg.html)

Pictures taken by iphone 6S Plus and uploaded to lower resolution in photobucket...

HDR10 enabled, this movie seems to be 4K/24:
(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h353/durianlover88/C3A64D8D-FF90-4275-95FF-FC2F4F6972AE.jpg) (http://s1105.photobucket.com/user/durianlover88/media/C3A64D8D-FF90-4275-95FF-FC2F4F6972AE.jpg.html)

(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h353/durianlover88/B219993B-0BC5-4919-A19E-B00CA6E07734.jpg) (http://s1105.photobucket.com/user/durianlover88/media/B219993B-0BC5-4919-A19E-B00CA6E07734.jpg.html)

(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h353/durianlover88/C8BFF200-74FB-43B8-80E4-A664845467A3.jpg) (http://s1105.photobucket.com/user/durianlover88/media/C8BFF200-74FB-43B8-80E4-A664845467A3.jpg.html)

(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h353/durianlover88/643553B5-AC8F-40CD-987C-B09EACEB044A.jpg) (http://s1105.photobucket.com/user/durianlover88/media/643553B5-AC8F-40CD-987C-B09EACEB044A.jpg.html)

(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h353/durianlover88/F5132CE1-603D-4214-83B7-C172C644EC07.jpg) (http://s1105.photobucket.com/user/durianlover88/media/F5132CE1-603D-4214-83B7-C172C644EC07.jpg.html)

(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h353/durianlover88/6E2F54B7-2245-45F7-A389-8AB43E8706D7.jpg) (http://s1105.photobucket.com/user/durianlover88/media/6E2F54B7-2245-45F7-A389-8AB43E8706D7.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: durianlover88 on May 01, 2016, 02:26
Just donated 40 Euros to regionfreedom.com.
They need 60mins to create my personalized enhanced firmware tied to NIC MAC address.
Will continue on Sunday....
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on May 01, 2016, 11:07
The picture quality looks great...

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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: durianlover88 on May 01, 2016, 11:25
Continued....

Wow....there is no region locking for non-UHD blurays (Region A) or DVDS (Region 3).
What a revelation (I tried so many Region A BR and Region 3 DVDs)....I really need Broler Audio to confirm :)

I hope then the region freedom 1.03A can do the Cinavia fix :)

I inserted 3 Ansuz DTC footers underneath, and it is powered by a 4m Ansuz DTC powercord.

Sound Quality wise is great...I set to Normal, though there are 6 valve settings and a few others to choose if one like.

Video Quality I really need to refer to optimized settings from maybe AVS. Not customized yet, so eben converted to 4K/4:4:4 for the Region A FHD BR, it cannot beat what I saw from Theta Compli 3D player output to Marantz 8802A upscaled to 4K. Any bros who already know of recommended settings for UB900, would appreciate you point me to it...cheers!
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: durianlover88 on May 01, 2016, 11:29
The picture quality looks great...

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Like what I saw too :)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: durianlover88 on May 01, 2016, 11:32
So for 4k sources, must you split the video and audio out? Is that compulsory? i.e. you can't simply use one HDMI out?
I need to test this...I think need to set HDMI (video) output to output both video and audio and connect it to AVR...I will confirm later...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on May 01, 2016, 12:11
So bro, are you saying that it can play not only UK region B discs, but Region A Locked BR discs too?
Some discs are all regions, eg Warner Discs.


Try a Lionsgate Region A disc..


I might be keen to pick one up in UK then..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: durianlover88 on May 01, 2016, 12:52
I tried Life of Pi, Ameizing, Our Times, Inside Out, A Christmas Carol, Voice of China 2 DVDs...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on May 01, 2016, 17:10
Thanks for trying, Life of Pi and Inside Out are both all regions, I can't find any info about the rest....
Hopefully your region free hack works then it's all good.

Die Hard 4 is Region A only, and so is Battleship, in case you have them?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on May 02, 2016, 04:50
6 pictures to tell the complete story.....

(http://audio.sg/pic/dmpub900-01.jpg)
DMP-UB900 -4K UHD Disc

(http://audio.sg/pic/dmpub900-02.jpg)
DMP-UB900 -4K UHD Disc Close up

(http://audio.sg/pic/dmpub900-03.jpg)
DMP-UB900 - 1080 Blu Ray


(http://audio.sg/pic/dmpub900-04.jpg)
DMP-UB900 - 1080 Blu Ray Close Up

(http://audio.sg/pic/dmpub900-05.jpg)
Samsung UHD-K8500 - 4K UHD Disc

(http://audio.sg/pic/dmpub900-06.jpg)
Samsung UHD-K8500 - 4K UHD Disc Close Up

(Audio)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Tiktokape on May 02, 2016, 08:40
The answer is clear!


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on May 02, 2016, 13:23
Panny review:
http://www.theage.com.au/technology/gadgets-on-the-go/hands-on-panasonic-dmpub900-ultra-hd-bluray-player-20160501-gojoe9.html
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: durianlover88 on May 02, 2016, 18:15
I am bery sad, the UB900 deemed my TV unable to do HDR and will only do SDR to it...dunno why (got LG ColorPrime & Ultra Luminance, and folks all confirmed HDR flag is on when playing Mozart HDR clip from Amazon Prime). I need to ask LG why like dat...

Even with SDR, UB900 is passing BT2020/4:4:4/12-bit.
So I have been playing with TV calibration today.
Luckily I have got an excellent set of UF860T calibration settings from avsforum. So I did this same setting for the Panny HDMI input (have this setting for 3 weeks on my DVB-T2 channels), and then did the following settings for UB900:

Contrast: -4
Brightness: 12 (maximum)
HDR-SDR: -4

The lower the setting for HDR-SDR, the more of the HDR properties would emerge.
This is stated by the manual and a few reviewers, and The Revanent is simply a wonderful UHD disc to work out the optimal settings.

Now for the case of video, I think I am done.
The video colours and tone appear consistent through UHD-FHD-DVD discs.

I also compared to Theta Compli 3D for full HD BR, video is bery close now may (95 on Panny vs 100 on Theta, Theta being more stable and a slight tad richer in colours). SQ-wise is also on par. I would say the Panny SQ is excellent, just very slightly more articulate and delicate than Theta.

My Theta has got a reservation...I am in 2 minds to sell or not...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on May 02, 2016, 19:07
Thank you for the reviews bros Audio and durian.. cheers
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: durianlover88 on May 02, 2016, 20:03
I am really quite happy with the Panny player. No errors, speedy, everything nice feature wise. Sound quality is stellar.

Only improvements I like is maybe have the aspect adjustment button on the remote (else have to use TV remote for aspect adjustments). The bottom of the player is not flat hence placing aftermarket footers is a bit more difficult.

Definitely need video calibration, especially if one is not able to use HDR and can only use SDR. Learning is do the TV calibration first, then move to adjust the SDR-HDR, Contrast and Brightness. The Revanent looks much better than the pictures posted earlier :)

I have installed the Regionfreedom firmware 1.03A, set to DVD Region 3 and BR Region 1.
I did not pay too much attention but so far every discs is able to play. Got no disc to test cinavia, so can't comment this one....
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: durianlover88 on May 02, 2016, 20:08
I tested single HDMI (video port) out to 8802A. Got sound got picture...does not need to split video and audio if you do not want to.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on May 02, 2016, 20:14

I have installed the Regionfreedom firmware 1.03A, set to DVD Region 3 and BR Region 1.
I did not pay too much attention but so far every discs is able to play. Got no disc to test cinavia, so can't comment this one....
Bro can you link me to a page to get it?
http://www.regionfreedom.com/index.php/enhanced-firmware/panasonic-blu-ray-players/44-dmp-ub900/74-dmp-ub900-enhanced-firmware-1-03a-for-selected-models-eb-eg-gn-pc
How much did you pay for it?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on May 02, 2016, 20:18
What Hifi has a good review of the Panny:
http://www.whathifi.com/panasonic/dmp-ub900/review
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on May 02, 2016, 20:25
Bro Durian
Someone noted the latest FW broke HDR: https://www.avforums.com/threads/dmp-ub900-firmware-1-03-broke-hdr.2027067/
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: durianlover88 on May 02, 2016, 20:53
Bro Durian
Someone noted the latest FW broke HDR: https://www.avforums.com/threads/dmp-ub900-firmware-1-03-broke-hdr.2027067/
Woah...I still in luck then....I think Panny will have to come out with a new firmware to recover that HDR function on LG TVs...dun think they will incur the wrath of all LG TV owners.... The good thing for me is I really learn what is HDR through the tinkering of the settings (observing how the details come and go as SDR-HDR setting is changed....later I try to post some pictures to explain this point
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on May 04, 2016, 22:39
French review of the Panny with a JVC:
http://www.homecinema-fr.com/compte-rendu-dutilisation-du-panasonic-dmp-ub900/
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on May 08, 2016, 17:07
The Sammy has picked up the Premium Cert, not bad for something that's the first gen.
Aus 499 too if you don't mind Region B for BR.. at least it will be 240 VAC.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on May 08, 2016, 17:10
Look out, Oppo has something planned for the year end :)
http://www.phileweb.com/sp/news/d-av/201605/06/38759.html



Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on May 11, 2016, 23:19
Woah...I still in luck then....I think Panny will have to come out with a new firmware to recover that HDR function on LG TVs...dun think they will incur the wrath of all LG TV owners.... The good thing for me is I really learn what is HDR through the tinkering of the settings (observing how the details come and go as SDR-HDR setting is changed....later I try to post some pictures to explain this point
New firmware 1.04 is out.. you can check what it does..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on May 13, 2016, 09:03
Region Free Sammy on sale here:
http://www.gattiweb.com/bluraymod.html
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on May 16, 2016, 14:33
This should be an exciting thread.....but it is not.

Last night viewing of the 4K UHD Deadpool was disappointing....movie wise and picture wise.

I am beginning to think my 4K projector may not cut it for this new format.

I think I need to try the player on a BIG SCREEN HDR capable TV.  Anyone would like to volunteer?  I bring my player and disc.....

(Audio)

Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: DJQ on May 16, 2016, 14:41
haha wow. How big you need? 55" UHD panny LED TV ok?  :-[
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on May 16, 2016, 14:43
haha wow. How big you need? 55" UHD panny LED TV ok?  :-[

At least 65" 4K UHD with HDR at least.....75" or 85" most welcome!!!

(Audio)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: DJQ on May 16, 2016, 14:50
 :o :o :o damn. 65" with HDR. i am sure quite a few guys here got it.  :)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: durianlover88 on May 16, 2016, 15:21
Broler Audio...before you decide on selling off your projector...try the SDR function as in my post #312 in the previous page. Try the below Panny UB900 settings:

Contrast: -4
Brightness: 12 (maximum)
HDR-SDR: -4

The lower the setting for HDR-SDR, the more of the HDR properties would emerge.

I recalled some other recent post by dunno Alf or Doggie a video that HDR not making sense and SDR might be most appropriate now..

I just upgraded my firmware to 1.04...works fine with Region A maybe because I retain the old region setting.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: jeffong on May 16, 2016, 16:04
At least 65" 4K UHD with HDR at least.....75" or 85" most welcome!!!

(Audio)
Given the limited candidates here, probably we need to bring our players to one of the big retailer flagship store and do our testing there.  It'll be our equivalent of the Value Electronics shoot off that's being organized in NY every June.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on May 19, 2016, 09:47
New Panny review
http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/panasonic-ub900-201605154293.htm
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on May 21, 2016, 11:51
Philips gonna release a 4K UHD bluray player this coming summer...

Ehhh...I have to admit, it sure looks kind of "cheap" :P

Here's a screencap of the specs...it has HDR SMPTE 10.

(http://att.jd-bbs.com/portal/201605/18/160836c81gmngzycl4gnpm.jpg)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on May 23, 2016, 18:25
Deadpool is proving to be a solid demo disc to show off 4k..
http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Deadpool/ultra-hd-bluray/UHD/hdr/dolby-cinema/tim-miller/fox-innovation-lab/deadpool-4k-hdr-demo-with-director-tim-miller/32122
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: cstanxpl on May 24, 2016, 14:40
Samsung UBD-K8500 review from WHF?

http://www.whathifi.com/samsung/ubd-k8500/review
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on May 29, 2016, 08:18
Samsung UBD-K8500 review from WHF?

http://www.whathifi.com/samsung/ubd-k8500/review
Frankly nobody really take WHF reviews seriously buy I have to agree with their assessment for this samsung 4k player though.

LoL...better ones are from sound n vision and the likes. But that's just me.

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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: ckt on May 31, 2016, 12:55
This should be an exciting thread.....but it is not.

Last night viewing of the 4K UHD Deadpool was disappointing....movie wise and picture wise.


I am beginning to think my 4K projector may not cut it for this new format.

I think I need to try the player on a BIG SCREEN HDR capable TV.  Anyone would like to volunteer?  I bring my player and disc.....

(Audio)



You can bring your panny to my place, i guarantee you wont be disappointed.  Can compare to my u8500 4k samsung player with jvc x7000 output 4k(60)444 12bit bt2020 HDR. Seriously once setup properly it is out of this world. Pm for details. Anyone want to audition?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on June 05, 2016, 20:09
Panasonic FW:

released firmware 1.15


Description:
•DLNA compatibility
•Startup time of Ultra HD Blu-ray and Blu-ray Disc™



Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on June 10, 2016, 16:06
I thought it's an insightful post and applicable to us too..





And pretty much spot on.
And unlike USA, where even if only 30% of the viewing public are willing to go 4k, and make it viable. Very few places in the world have that kind of volume, to make the discs cheap enough..


So those waiting for mass adoption of 4k will need to wait that much longer..

http://www.dtvforum.info/index.php/topic/203102-the-official-4k-ultra-h-d-blu-ray-thread/?p=2073871 (http://www.dtvforum.info/index.php/topic/203102-the-official-4k-ultra-h-d-blu-ray-thread/?p=2073871)
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It's simple :  just check out the latest JB Hifi printed brochure - dated Wed 8 June - - then check out the movie / TV section - and NOTE that there are prices for DVDs - and no mention of Blu prices.
 
Have a real think about it - JB aren't proactively advertising Blu prices - because they are DEARER.     (let's save the discussion on those people that only buy when they are on discount)
 
And suddenly.... consumers need to wait for a new player ??    and higher prices ??   Gee.... if consumers aren't buying cheap Blu players (yep - you can pick up a Samsung Blu player for $98) then are you expecting them to rush our for a $598 4K one ??   What is the driver going to be ??  Come on - I think most of us here are of an 'age; that we have seen the home theatre / media market for the past 30 years - and we can more or less predict what will happen.
 
4K is a sub market inside the Blu market - consumers aren't going to go from DVD to 4K.
 
Bit like DVD Audio - what ever happened to that ??
 
And what is in it for JB ??  It's just another product line - 'they' wont be discounting the 4K discs - it will be the distributors (eg Sony) whom will have to take the 'bite' out of the price.  Then... Sony will need to evaluate what the sales numbers are, compared to DVD and Blu.   If the local distributors aren't making as much on 4K ... and there is only JB and maybe inSanity selling them - then how is the market going to 'expand' ??... where are the sales going to come from ??
 
 
We look at this new product with 'rosy glasses' - reality is that it there are not many products available to consumers in so many different forms.  You buy a book - printed or digital -  you don't buy the special edition, the low definition book, the high definition book, or the even better edition book...  it's the same with music -  CD or digital.   The movie studios are thinking that consumers are cash cows on each different format. And then there is streaming ..... who knows what the current impact that is having on older catalog titles ???   Sure - I double dipped on Independence Day (on the wicked Wednesday) but how many other consumers would upgrade the same time from DVD or an older Blu ??  not many.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: jeffong on June 12, 2016, 16:55
Sony 4k player confirmed (sort of)
http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1465582378
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: DJQ on June 15, 2016, 03:48
http://www.whathifi.com/news/philips-set-to-release-4k-ultra-hd-blu-ray-player

https://www.valueelectronics.com/uploads/Philips_BDP7501.pdf

any chance our local dealer will be selling this?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on June 15, 2016, 07:31
This may be the first to come here, not because it's a 4k player, but because it's a game machine..
And remember the PS3?
This may be how many enter the 4k world:
https://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pdp/productID.3366999700?icid=US_Homepage_STH1_EDM_61316
(https://dri1.img.digitalrivercontent.net/Storefront/Company/msintl/images/English/en-INTL-Xbox-One-Edmonton-Launch-2DZ-00001/en-INTL-L-Xbox-One-Edmonton-Launch-2DZ-00001-mnco.jpg)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: BozQ on June 15, 2016, 22:19
The Xbox One S come with an Ultra HD Blu-ray player. This is a surprise. And at US$299, that's a great price.

But with one caveat. In the original Xbox One, the console does not bitstream Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD. It only decodes to LPCM and streams out. Kind of like the old "fat" PlayStation 3.

This should not be a problem for most except for Dolby Atmos and DTS:X. Part of the big draw in buying Ultra HD Blu-ray is the upgraded soundtracks to Dolby Atmos.

So if you have a Dolby Atmos home theater set up, you may want to reconsider. Unless Microsoft specifically fix this in the S version, which I highly doubt so
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: jeffong on June 16, 2016, 10:31
I won't be suprised if Microsoft Singapore drags it's feet on the S launch and we only get to see it in August next year.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on June 16, 2016, 10:38
Importing from elsewhere has never been a deterent :)
Besides, we should give them the benefit of doubt. This may be able to do all that's needed. There is also talk of a new Playstation that can do 4k too.
Again game machines may be the way in for the masses..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: cstanxpl on June 16, 2016, 10:43
http://www.gsmarena.com/40_smaller_xbox_one_s_arrives_in_august_starting_at_299-blog-18803.php

"On the other hand, next year (in the fall) Microsoft will launch a new Xbox, currently codenamed Project Scorpio. This will do 4K gaming and will support VR experiences as well. It will boast six teraflops of power, so you might want to think long and hard about buying the Xbox One S this year as opposed to just waiting another year for Scorpio."
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: BozQ on June 16, 2016, 22:26
Importing from elsewhere has never been a deterent :)
Besides, we should give them the benefit of doubt. This may be able to do all that's needed. There is also talk of a new Playstation that can do 4k too.
Again game machines may be the way in for the masses..
The PlayStation Neo is confirmed. But not revealed in E3 this year. They're focusing on PlayStation VR and I think they don't want the announcement of a new console to dilute sales and excitement over VR.

Question, has anybody imported Xbox One from overseas?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: jeffong on June 16, 2016, 23:20
Question, has anybody imported Xbox One from overseas?

I brought one back before it was available locally. Have to use a step down convertor though.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on June 23, 2016, 00:55
THIS IS TRULY 4K MOVIE EXPERIENCE!!!

(http://audio.sg/pic/4kstartrek-01.jpg)
(http://audio.sg/pic/4kstartrek-02.jpg)
(http://audio.sg/pic/4kstartrek-03.jpg)
(http://audio.sg/pic/4kstartrek-04.jpg)
(http://audio.sg/pic/4kstartrek-05.jpg)
(http://audio.sg/pic/4kstartrek-06.jpg)
(http://audio.sg/pic/4kstartrek-07.jpg)
(http://audio.sg/pic/4kstartrek-09.jpg)

All pictures taken with digital camera off the screen and cropping and resize carried out.

BEST 4K UHD BLU-RAY DISC TO DATE!!!

(Audio)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: BozQ on June 23, 2016, 01:03
Dang it. Mine's taking its time. :/
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on June 23, 2016, 01:28
nice
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: jeffong on June 23, 2016, 10:24
Star Trek Into Darkness pricing has dropped to $29.99.  Too bad the first title is still stubbornly at $47.  Just ordered it together with the Nvidia 4K two controller bundle @ $199. 
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: ralfale on June 23, 2016, 14:37
PQ looks stunning!
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: jeffong on July 02, 2016, 00:22
First StarTrek title has finally dropped to $29.99 as well.  Time to order it if you have been patiently holding off like me.  ;D
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on July 02, 2016, 08:24
Damn... Still waiting for a true 4k laser based projector before I jump in.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on July 02, 2016, 10:38
Brexit has made the Panasonic cheaper to buy ;)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: jeffong on July 02, 2016, 10:49
Damn... Still waiting for a true 4k laser based projector before I jump in.

Bro.. that one is still years away lah..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on July 02, 2016, 10:57
Bro.. that one is still years away lah..

There have been murmurs of a 1x00ES class replacement for the 1100ES with laser. Of course, it's still just that.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: shenzenus on July 02, 2016, 11:19
What would be the price range for laser based projector? I heard it doesn't run hot...

Damn... Still waiting for a true 4k laser based projector before I jump in.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on July 02, 2016, 11:48
What would be the price range for laser based projector? I heard it doesn't run hot...
Cheapest? Expect something in the region of $15k at least...

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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on July 02, 2016, 11:50
Bro.. that one is still years away lah..
If laser projector haven't come down in its price... Then maybe going to try LED or back to Mercury based lamp. Hard to resist... Arghhhh...

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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: shenzenus on July 02, 2016, 11:51
Errr... that will be my last project... stick with flat panel  ;D

Cheapest? Expect something in the region of $15k at least...

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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on July 02, 2016, 11:51
Errr... that will be my last project... stick with flat panel  ;D
Yep... Take your time.

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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on July 02, 2016, 13:55
If Epson updates the LS-10000 with HDR and HDMI2.0/HDCP2.2 BT2020, it might be worth a consideration.

The current unit is already close - needs an updated chipset which they have in the newly announced lamp based models - and a bump in brightness.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on July 02, 2016, 14:48
If Epson updates the LS-10000 with HDR and HDMI2.0/HDCP2.2 BT2020, it might be worth a consideration.

The current unit is already close - needs an updated chipset which they have in the newly announced lamp based models - and a bump in brightness.

Agreed...I'm actually waiting for Epson to "reboot" this model. It is highly plausible. I have very good experience with Epson HT projector with reflective 3LCD panel - the blacks are very good.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: ckt on July 02, 2016, 17:44
Enjoying JVC HDR. When jvc laser comes out estimate 2yrs or less upgrade again. But enjoy in the meantime, time waits for no man. So far Revenant, the martian, journey to space, star trek, just to name a few, are true reference HDR. But its not plug n play u need the right cable and setting to correct bt2020, color space and most impt the nits for 1000/2000/4000 highlights
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: BozQ on July 02, 2016, 18:45
Brexit has made the Panasonic cheaper to buy ;)
From Amazon UK?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Tiktokape on July 02, 2016, 19:30
From Amazon UK?
Any UK sites, you have a upper hand due to 10% off currency.


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on July 02, 2016, 20:05

(http://4kfilme.de/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/dmp-ub900-4k-blu-ray-player.jpg)

The Panny DMP-UB900 4K bluray player looks "wicked"...will be available in Sep but quite costly. But it also seems to be able to read SACD file as well iirc. The Epson 6040UB 4K projector looks like a VFM and due to be released next month. Hmmm...looks enticing.

Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on July 02, 2016, 20:20
From Amazon UK?

They still wanna charge me for GST - even though it is now under A$1k
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on July 02, 2016, 20:21
Available in Sept in SG?
If it comes any later, the Oppo option may be better IMO..
The Panny DMP-UB900 4K bluray player looks "wicked"...will be available in Sep but quite costly. But it also seems to be able to read SACD file as well iirc. The Epson 6040UB 4K projector looks like a VFM and due to be released next month. Hmmm...looks enticing.


Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on July 02, 2016, 20:24
Available in Sept in SG?
If it comes any later, the Oppo option may be better IMO..
Yep... My thoughts exactly.

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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: jeffong on July 02, 2016, 21:31
I guess the key thing will be whether Dolby Vision capable players and discs come out by Sep.  If it does, that will put the Panny at a disadvantage.  I'm hoping the Dynamic version of the HDR10 will be firmware upgradeable like what Samsung alluded during NAB.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on July 02, 2016, 21:36
Yep... My thoughts exactly.

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If SG wants to do 4k, it can actually do it very well.
4k TVs have become de facto since FHD ones are scarce on the ground. Do a campaign, bring in the UHD discs at a decent price - $40 to $30, and some 4k players in the $500-600 range and you will have ready clients.

Everyone will replace their DVD players, and why not a 4k player. Doesn't matter if they know what it means, they want something for their 4k TVs and something that's not to expensive, (a $300 budget model bundled with a TV will be very nice thank you). Then you will see some buyers, instead of 4k discs and players sitting on the fringe..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: jeffong on July 02, 2016, 21:57
That's where I find our MDA not very forward looking.  What's the point of having a high fibre penetration rate where they don't know how to make use of it.  They should work with Singtel, Mediacorp and Starhub on delivery of 4K broadcast content and be a pioneer in the region.  The upcoming Olympics in Rio will have been a good platform to educate the general public on the wow of 4K viewing. 

IMHO, it will be pointless to push BD UHD on the general public as prices will be out of reach for them.  Even BD take up rate in Singapore is pathetic as the typical Tan, Ong and Wong is more interested in the low quality content streamed on their China media player.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: BozQ on July 03, 2016, 02:57
I have wondered for a long time, how is UHD BD going to even survive in Singapore.
Yes, we are selling a lot of UHD TVs. But there are barely any shops selling regular 1080p Blu-rays now. LaserFlair, Music Junction, Sembawang, HMV, TS VCD, just to name a few stores, all but bit the dust. Just about the only surviving store left is Poh Kim, and Blu-rays are not their primary sales. You might be shocked to hear this, but I think the only store that sells a wide range of Blu-ray, is Mustafa. Even Popular seems to be clearing their stock and making space for other products.

And even when it comes to Blu-ray, how is the average consumer ever want to adopt the format when it costs so much in Singapore? Look at Star Wars: The Force Awakens for example. It costs freaking $49! I bought mine from Amazon for just S$27 including shipping! And it even comes with a DVD copy! Not that I need it. But still, it's way overpriced.

3D BD is even worse. Costing $59 just for the 3D disc alone. No 2D copy. Madness!
Even if Poh Kim does stock up UHD BD, do you think it will cost anything less than $59?

That being said, how many stores in Singapore will dare stock up on UHD BD players when there are no stores selling UHD BDs?
I can imagine the sales people having a hard time convincing anyone to buy the player. And when asked where to buy the discs, are they going to tell their customers to "buy online?". But then, knowing them, they'd probably lie and said it will still look great playing DVDs. With faster, fibre broadband, it's easier to just stream or pirate movies online. The prices for physical Blu-ray in Singapore is just not encouraging.

And I was actually looking forward to getting the Xbox One S console. After the E3 announcement last month, US$299 for the 500GB console was a very good deal. Unfortunately, Microsoft Xbox Singapore is going to mark up the console by a huge margin. Going to cost more than S$500. Very disappointing.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on July 03, 2016, 08:32
Boyz, an astute assessment indeed. U are spot on and so is Bro Jeffong on the current situation for 4k adoption here in Singapore. Its once again mismatched of demand and supply as well as misinformation that lead to the engine stalling mid way through the race.

The ridiculous pricing of bluray and the dearth of shops selling it makes bluray harder to get, hence push up the local price inevitably due to limited stock (no distributor dare to take in large quantity like laser flair in the past, most simply don't have the means to do that anymore since the departure of laserflair). Who should we blame? We are also the one contributing to this predicament that we are facing now... I recalled a few years back when I talked to one of the staff at Bishan laser flair outlet, I believed she's one of the branch managers. I asked her, why the local pricing of the bluray is so much higher compared to the online store... Well I guess, everyone knows the economics behind it. She replied they are unable to match the price of  online stores which does not need to factor in overheads and other cost related expenditures of running businesses here in Singapore. She also told me that their corporate side is also trying to make a foray into the online segment and forgo the brick and mortar store business model in Singapore to ensure the bottom lines are not hurt. With the ease of access to the Internet and our strong financial backbone provided by our banks, online purchases is no longer a hassle and besides we have grown to accept the risk associated with online purchases with no physical stores these days, not because we want to save some money BUT because there is no local distributor or dealer for the products that we want. With more discerning buyers finding items like bluray to have a lower risk of DOA, unlike electronic products like 4K UHD bluray player or AVR as an example, buyers are more willing to pay a little higher for peace of mind, hence the survival of a few AV Hifi shops in Adelphi and SLS till now,  but even then, u can see that many had exited the AV industry citing the same reasons of unable to price match some of the direct Internet sale prices.

So u see, the demise of most brick and mortar stores is actually fuelled by our buying habits over the years as a result of ease in making online purchases these days.

It's not the job for the govt to ensure the survival of bluray disc resellers here in Singapore, it is up to individual entrepreneurs with a good business acumen, "deep pockets" to setup an online local company that is able to sell at a comparable price to match those from Amazon. Sadly, there is a mismatch in the hardware (many 4k UHD TV on sale but no 4K UHD bluray player at least at the time of this post)  and software (no software or content to play with)...Without both moving in tandem, what's there to talk about the benefits of WCG, HDMI 2.0, HDR etc...

What even make us as consumers even more pissed off, is the fact that we have all the high Internet connectivity and infrastructure ready to get 4K UHD streaming now... But the incentive to ride on the 4k bandwagon is weak. With Netflix making its presence in the Asia market, we will likely be seeing this as the dominant medium to deliver 4K content at a cheaper price. The business models for most Hollywood studios also seems to be steering towards that way. So 4K UHD titles may die of a premature death even before it starts. Hopefully we are not seeing another HD DVD in the making...

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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Tiktokape on July 03, 2016, 08:52
I agree with Desray' input of the current outcome. Also we simply don't have the scale to go well on implementation of new format in such a low taking as we speak of Singapore vs huge markets - USA, EU, Japan(I must salute Japanese to support local pressing!)

To add, the growing habits of typical local people have grew to think that contents are meant to be 'free'. I have friends with big OLED TVs, range from 65-80", some are in landed property. All cited that all they need is a streaming media player, with adequate internet line, they are all good to get their fix that way.

On a contrary, when asked re BRP, majority have replied there is no need of, 1) ready access of streaming devices 2) change of lifestyle whereby nowadays a family will sit down and watch a movie together 3) at the most, they will spin disc due to their kids, materials are DVD quality so they rather buy a cheapo DVD player.


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on July 03, 2016, 08:58
Sadly the situation is self inflicted.
If we don't support our own shops they will die.
I am also guilty of going for cheap cheap.
Especially when the gulf in price is so much.
At least for hardware, we have some items that are competitive but when it comes to discs it's hard to swallow.
In other places with small markets like oz, there's a greater national pride and they have taken the higher prices of almost everything electronic in their stride.

Many opt to visit local stores and people also go online but here it's price above all.

Just see how we choose our products. We seldom reward good service. It has to be cheap and solid service but the overriding concern is still price.

And not an insignificant number have no qualms about using fakes or illegal downloads.

This is the reality on the home front.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: congsterz on July 03, 2016, 13:34
The future is in streaming.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on July 04, 2016, 09:05
How could retail shops, in the most expensive city in the world, could sell 4K Blu Ray cheaper than Amazon.com?

(Audio)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: jeffong on July 04, 2016, 09:56
Actually the downfall for local retail began when REITS took shop for all the shopping malls which resulted in the REIT owners only seeking to maximize their profits without any care for the poor retailers.  Enough of the digress, will finally be able to playback 4K on my Samsung player this evening after my LG is delivered.  Anyone has recommendation for a good High Speed HDMI 2.0 cable without breaking the bank?  Heard a few forummers mention about AudioQuest but seems like there are 4 different category offerings and just wondering if the lowest tier "Chocolate" will be good enough for a 2m chord.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on July 04, 2016, 10:02
Actually the downfall for local retail began when REITS took shop for all the shopping malls which resulted in the REIT owners only seeking to maximize their profits without any care for the poor retailers.  Enough of the digress, will finally be able to playback 4K on my Samsung player this evening after my LG is delivered.  Anyone has recommendation for a good High Speed HDMI 2.0 cable without breaking the bank?  Heard a few forummers mention about AudioQuest but seems like there are 4 different category offerings and just wondering if the lowest tier "Chocolate" will be good enough for a 2m chord.

Call Sammy - Monoprice. I think he's bringing them in.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on July 04, 2016, 10:31
I strongly recommend Wireworld Starlight 7 (Red).  I bought a 15 Metre Silver Starlight 7 (Grey)and yesterday, I used this between my Marantz 8802A and the Sony VW1100ES.  I also use another Starlight 7 (Red) between the Panasonic DMP-UB900 and the Marantz.  4K signal streamed through effortlessly.  I also have a few Ultraviolet 7 (Purple) in my system for less critical duties.

Yes, Sammy also do Wireworld cables.

(Audio)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on July 04, 2016, 11:05
I strongly recommend Wireworld Starlight 7 (Red).  I bought a 15 Metre Silver Starlight 7 (Grey)and yesterday, I used this between my Marantz 8802A and the Sony VW1100ES.  I also use another Starlight 7 (Red) between the Panasonic DMP-UB900 and the Marantz.  4K signal streamed through effortlessly.  I also have a few Ultraviolet 7 (Purple) in my system for less critical duties.

Yes, Sammy also do Wireworld cables.

(Audio)

I guess we have different definitions of NOT breaking the bank :D
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: jeffong on July 04, 2016, 11:06
Do they cost fingers and toes or an arm and a leg? LOL!!!
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on July 04, 2016, 14:19
I guess we have different definitions of NOT breaking the bank :D

Absolutely.  I buy one time, good good.  So, no need to upgrade...so no need to break bank.  If you compromise, then you might need to buy again....overall, may cost you more than a "one time good good".

(Audio)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: ckt on July 04, 2016, 14:25
I strongly recommend Wireworld Starlight 7 (Red).  I bought a 15 Metre Silver Starlight 7 (Grey)and yesterday, I used this between my Marantz 8802A and the Sony VW1100ES.  I also use another Starlight 7 (Red) between the Panasonic DMP-UB900 and the Marantz.  4K signal streamed through effortlessly.  I also have a few Ultraviolet 7 (Purple) in my system for less critical duties.

Yes, Sammy also do Wireworld cables.

(Audio)
Passing normal 4k is not demanding at all. You need to ensure your projector is 4K HDR capable (unfortunately vw1100 is not)which will really tax your cable.  Many cables claiming 18Gbs and costing a few hundreds cannot pass thru 10bit bt2020 as confirmed by avsforum.  There are a few cheap 18gbs from amazon that works. Pm for details if you wish to test out your cable at my place.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on July 04, 2016, 15:47
I am now carrying Wireworld cables too now in Australia :P and soon will carry Nordost.

If you think Wireworld is bad, wait till you see the Nordost one ;)
http://www.nordost.com/valhalla-reference/4k-uhd-cable.php

*cough cough*
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Tiktokape on July 04, 2016, 15:59
Wireworld HDMi cable will be peanut if one bought the $65k 4k laser projector  ;D
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: e24djenggos on July 04, 2016, 21:17
Can anyone give me Sammy contact for wireworld product
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Tiktokape on July 04, 2016, 21:38
Can anyone give me Sammy contact for wireworld product
You may contact Sound Decision for Sammy. I believe you can google SD's contact number ya?


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: e24djenggos on July 04, 2016, 21:40
Was about to make purchase on Audioquest till i saw this posting. Any significant difference between AQ cinnamon to wireworld ultraviolet or red?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Norman_Chan on July 26, 2016, 02:05
Is this Samsung 4K Blu Ray player worth to buy ? This is a TRUE 4K player , correct ?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01A9V6OI6/ref=ox_sc_mini_detail?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ASH1H6YCFH4EF
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: ptey on July 28, 2016, 11:20
UPS came to my home this morning to deliver my Panasonic but I was asleep, will come again tonight. How to hack the region of this player? is there a easy way like just using the remote control?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on July 28, 2016, 11:29
UPS came to my home this morning to deliver my Panasonic but I was asleep, will come again tonight. How to hack the region of this player? is there a easy way like just using the remote control?
There's a site mentioned below, in which you update the firmware. This FW is given after you pay them. It's not authorised so approach with due diligence.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on July 28, 2016, 11:30
Why do you want to risk / hack the perfectly working 4K player when you only want to play 4K from the machine?  You can always buy a $100 Blu Ray player Region 1 to preserve the virginity of this 4K player, no?  Not happy?   Go and buy Samsung UHD-K8500 lor, Region 1 Blu Ray.....

People had been pumping 220VAC into these 115VAC rated machines without any issue.  No, I am not liable to any damage that you may suffer should you try....

(Audio)

DVD Zone 3??  Come one, you won't want to watch DVD after you seen 4K media......
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on July 28, 2016, 11:31
Is this Samsung 4K Blu Ray player worth to buy ? This is a TRUE 4K player , correct ?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01A9V6OI6/ref=ox_sc_mini_detail?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ASH1H6YCFH4EF


Correct.

(Audio)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: ptey on July 28, 2016, 12:44
There's a site mentioned below, in which you update the firmware. This FW is given after you pay them. It's not authorised so approach with due diligence.
Why do you want to risk / hack the perfectly working 4K player when you only want to play 4K from the machine?  You can always buy a $100 Blu Ray player Region 1 to preserve the virginity of this 4K player, no?  Not happy?   Go and buy Samsung UHD-K8500 lor, Region 1 Blu Ray.....

People had been pumping 220VAC into these 115VAC rated machines without any issue.  No, I am not liable to any damage that you may suffer should you try....

(Audio)

DVD Zone 3??  Come one, you won't want to watch DVD after you seen 4K media......

Ya, maybe I just leave it as it is. Thanks for the advice!
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: ptey on July 28, 2016, 12:49
A question to the owner of 4K player, do you connect to the 4K receiver or one to 4K TV and one to receiver? Is there any different? Thanks!
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on July 28, 2016, 12:54
A question to the owner of 4K player, do you connect to the 4K receiver or one to 4K TV and one to receiver? Is there any different? Thanks!
A few owners have noted some AVRs - Marantz experience banding, so you may wish to experiment..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: BozQ on July 28, 2016, 13:41
UHD BD is region free.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on July 28, 2016, 14:54
UHD BD is region free.
I am sure bro ptey isn't talking about the UHD aspect bro ;)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on July 28, 2016, 15:01
A question to the owner of 4K player, do you connect to the 4K receiver or one to 4K TV and one to receiver? Is there any different? Thanks!

If your Receiver can do HDMI 2.0 AND HDCP 2.2, then yes, connect through AV Receiver.

If your Receiver cannot do HDMI 2.0 AND HDCP 2.2, connect Video HDMI directly to 4K TV (assuming capable of HDMI 2.0 AND HDCP 2.2) and connect the Audio HDMI to the AV Receiver.

(Audio)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: BozQ on July 28, 2016, 15:01
I am sure bro ptey isn't talking about the UHD aspect bro ;)
Huh really. Ok.
I wouldn't do that. Unless the UHD BD player has outstanding upscaling, I'll just stick to whatever plays my 1080p Blu-ray.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on July 28, 2016, 15:05
Huh really. Ok.
I wouldn't do that. Unless the UHD BD player has outstanding upscaling, I'll just stick to whatever plays my 1080p Blu-ray.
Bro, you are assuming bro ptey wants to keep his current player once he sets up the Panasonic.. most home owners want an all in one. The videophile may not mind having a few players, but that's the minority.

As for playing it through the AVR, even if it's HDCP 2.2 compliant, it's best to experiment to see if the AVR adulterates the signal or really passes it without any deterioration.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: ptey on July 28, 2016, 18:51
Bro, you are assuming bro ptey wants to keep his current player once he sets up the Panasonic.. most home owners want an all in one. The videophile may not mind having a few players, but that's the minority.

As for playing it through the AVR, even if it's HDCP 2.2 compliant, it's best to experiment to see if the AVR adulterates the signal or really passes it without any deterioration.

Thanks for the advises, I will try to experiment. My 4K receiver is an Onkyo RZ800 and my TV is a Samsung JS9500.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: BozQ on July 28, 2016, 21:46
Bro, you are assuming bro ptey wants to keep his current player once he sets up the Panasonic.. most home owners want an all in one. The videophile may not mind having a few players, but that's the minority.

As for playing it through the AVR, even if it's HDCP 2.2 compliant, it's best to experiment to see if the AVR adulterates the signal or really passes it without any deterioration.
Oohh okay. Fair enough.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: ptey on July 29, 2016, 14:28
Received the Panasonic DMP-UB900 noon time. Try with single connection to my Onkyo receiver no issue. TV show 4K/24p Dynamic Range conversion output when I play Deadpool 4K disc, don't know what does that mean? Updated the 1.19 firmware. But there isn't any free UHD 4K disc included in the box.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: ptey on July 29, 2016, 15:32
OK, after making some adjustment on my Samsung and Panasonic, now the movie is showing "High Dynamic Range" instead of "Dynamic Range conversion output". Using single connection to Onkyo Receiver.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: BozQ on July 29, 2016, 20:17
Received the Panasonic DMP-UB900 noon time. Try with single connection to my Onkyo receiver no issue. TV show 4K/24p Dynamic Range conversion output when I play Deadpool 4K disc, don't know what does that mean? Updated the 1.19 firmware. But there isn't any free UHD 4K disc included in the box.

OK, after making some adjustment on my Samsung and Panasonic, now the movie is showing "High Dynamic Range" instead of "Dynamic Range conversion output". Using single connection to Onkyo Receiver.
Dynamic Range Conversion is for TVs that do not support HDR. So the player will convert HDR to SDR.

If your TV supports HDR, you should turn this off.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: ptey on July 29, 2016, 21:23
Dynamic Range Conversion is for TVs that do not support HDR. So the player will convert HDR to SDR.

If your TV supports HDR, you should turn this off.

You have just quote my quote that I had made adjustment. LOL
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: ptey on August 03, 2016, 01:20
Xbox One S a new UHD 4K bluray player! Only USD299.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: BozQ on August 03, 2016, 01:54
Still no signs of the Xbox One S coming to Singapore soon.

And it doesn't bitstream Dolby TrueHD or DTS-HD. It will decode to LPCM 5.1 or 7.1 and stream out via HDMI. But if you have a Dolby Atmos or DTS X setup, this player is not for you.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: jdc115 on August 03, 2016, 07:25
That is really strange they would do that now.  I understand when BR launched that this was sometimes the case but I am not sure why anybody would not bitstream now.  Maybe it saves a license fee not to decode?  But that still is not a good excuse
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on August 03, 2016, 09:15
That is really strange they would do that now.  I understand when BR launched that this was sometimes the case but I am not sure why anybody would not bitstream now.  Maybe it saves a license fee not to decode?  But that still is not a good excuse

It's not that. It's just that the unit is designed to play games so it tends to mix in sound effects from the console and the interface allows you to swap from TV to game to movie. it's less jarring to keep it all decoded by the console - which allows the mixing of soundtracks.

Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on August 03, 2016, 09:15
Say a customer said SLS was already selling the Panasonic 4K BD player? Is it true?

How much is it?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: shenzenus on August 03, 2016, 10:37
SLS as in Sim Lim Square or a dealer's name.  I am interested to get one.

Say a customer said SLS was already selling the Panasonic 4K BD player? Is it true?

How much is it?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on August 03, 2016, 11:34
Sim Lim Square
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: shenzenus on August 03, 2016, 11:35
Sim Lim Square

Thanks
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on August 03, 2016, 11:37
Seeing the Panasonic live in Sg will be interesting. Maybe it's s PI unit or 110v?
Apparently the XBox is now able to bitstream..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: jdc115 on August 03, 2016, 12:39
It's not that. It's just that the unit is designed to play games so it tends to mix in sound effects from the console and the interface allows you to swap from TV to game to movie. it's less jarring to keep it all decoded by the console - which allows the mixing of soundtracks.



ahh, see I am not a gamer, had no idea.  I gave up having a PS3 as soon as stand alone players came more available and affordable (even though I only have owned an Oppo).  I just assumed everything would bitstream eventually.  In the beginning, there was a miss mash of ways different players handled things as long as they could meet min requirements of BD standard
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: BozQ on August 03, 2016, 13:05
Seeing the Panasonic live in Sg will be interesting. Maybe it's s PI unit or 110v?
Apparently the XBox is now able to bitstream..
Xbox One S still doesn't do bitstream unfortunately. But according to Xbox Engineers, this is something they're looking into, as well as discussions with Dolby about Dolby Vision.

Fingers crossed all these will be addressed by the time they're releasing Xbox Scorpio.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: BozQ on August 03, 2016, 13:06
Sim Lim Square
Interesting. Maybe I'll drop by and take a look.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on August 03, 2016, 20:47
Some info about the X box S:
http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/games/ultra-hd-bluray/Dolby_Vision/media-remote/2tb/the-xbox-one-s-will-support-hdr10-but-dolby-atmos-direct-bitstreaming-dtsx-support-remain-elusive/33645


No Dolby Vision apparently..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on August 04, 2016, 15:30
Interesting. Maybe I'll drop by and take a look.
Bro, did you find the Panasonic?
Do let us know about the price and if it's 220V, thanks.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: shenzenus on August 04, 2016, 15:42
Heard Oppo will produce 4K player towards end of the year.  Not sure worth the wait. Panny seems to have good review and selling in other region.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: BozQ on August 04, 2016, 18:33
Bro, did you find the Panasonic?
Do let us know about the price and if it's 220V, thanks.
Unfortunately no. But I did not extensively search for it too. Might try again another day.

Sorry about that.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: StephenBishop on August 07, 2016, 13:12
Dropped by SLS yesterday after an absence of a year or so. Hardly any AV stores around anymore :( :(. A couple of SLS stores that I checked did not sell any Panny products let alone the UB900 ::) ::). Decided to buy online instead- delivery scheduled 9-16 August.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: BozQ on August 07, 2016, 13:33
Business in SLS is bad these days. Started since the 7th generation consoles, where more people are buying Xbox 360s and PS3s than PCs.

Didn't help that they suffered a lot when LTA started construction of the Rochor DTL station, limiting people from easily accessing SLS.

Now, even with Rochor opened and Funan closed, they face a new competition. Smartphones. And the recent scam cases didn't help.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on August 22, 2016, 22:15
Copying bro Desray's important post over:
http://www.xtremeplace.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=236782.msg1164329#msg1164329

Quote
What's the difference between "Mastered in 4K" bluray vs "4K UHD" bluray. To make it simple in layman terms...the former can be played on the conventional bluray player (as in your case, the Philips BDP-9700 bluray player) whereas the latter requires a special laser in the lens head to "read" the UHD bluray disc.


The master copy of those "Mastered in 4K" titles are indeed derived from its 4K brethren but that's where the puck stops. It is downscaled to 1080p. In the pre-4K era, Sony, been the proponent of 4K in the film industry has had introduced its new 4K Reality Creation (RC) technology which allows a "Mastered in 4K" bluray to re-upscaled back to it "so-called" 4K bootleg version and it did made make "eye candy" when it was first introduced to the public. To further secure its 4K reign, Sony became the first AV manufacturer to make forays into the 4K projection cinematic realm by introducing the VW1000ES, followed by the mid-tiered VW500ES (currently I'm using it) and the VW1100ES, VW520ES (with HDR capability) and finally the latest VW5000ES (featuring laser light source).


The Reality Creation (RC) algorithm really did a fantastic job in upscaling the 1080p (or 2K) to "near-4K" picture quality but if one is to compare it with the native 4K UHD bluray, you will notice some distinct differences as nothing beats 1:1 pixel mapping to the true 4K resolution - i.e. 4096p.


Due to the mishmash usage of the word, "4K", it is no wonder layman can easily confused "Mastered in 4K" to be true "4K" bluray.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on September 08, 2016, 10:18
If anyone is in Oz, the Samsung has dropped to Aus 296... an amazing price, and you don't need a voltage convertor..
What's the key difference between this and the Panny? Any important missing features?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Norman_Chan on September 10, 2016, 10:39
http://www.usa.philips.com/c-p/BDP7501_F7/4k-ultra-hd-blu-ray-player/

Another true 4K blu ray player ?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: SLT on September 16, 2016, 09:09
Upcoming Oppo UDP-203 4K player: https://www.avforums.com/threads/oppo-ultra-hd-player-breaks-cover-at-cedia.2051411/
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on September 16, 2016, 09:21
Alright !!
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: ahduck on September 16, 2016, 10:10
Sui la..

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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: dXter on September 16, 2016, 11:01
@slt when can start preorder? hehe
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: SLT on September 16, 2016, 13:55
ok, once we have all the details (specs, price, availability, etc)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: tonytakitani on September 19, 2016, 14:00
http://www.usa.philips.com/c-p/BDP7501_F7/4k-ultra-hd-blu-ray-player/

Another true 4K blu ray player ?

Bought this from Amazon last week. Shipping to SG via MyUS.com.

I was actually waiting for the PS4 Pro and it was so disappointing when Sony finally confirmed it won't support 4K Blu-ray. What a mind-bogglingly stupid decision.
A complete turn-around from the last gen when their PS3 singlehandedly won the HD format war...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on September 19, 2016, 14:04
Looking forward to it...

Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on September 19, 2016, 14:22
Not waiting for the Oppo?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Norman_Chan on September 19, 2016, 14:53
Bought this from Amazon last week. Shipping to SG via MyUS.com.

I was actually waiting for the PS4 Pro and it was so disappointing when Sony finally confirmed it won't support 4K Blu-ray. What a mind-bogglingly stupid decision.
A complete turn-around from the last gen when their PS3 singlehandedly won the HD format war...

Do let us know is this player can switch to our local Voltage or need to buy a Step-Up plug transformer. Thanks.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: jeffong on September 19, 2016, 14:54
Finally you guys can jump onboard before Christmas.  Kinda lonely with only a handful of us having a 4K player.  Agree with Tony on the shite decision taken by Sony on the PS4 Pro.  ;D
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: ahduck on September 19, 2016, 16:05
Sorry guys. Appreciate if someone and explain differences between custom installation and standard players.
I notice the Oppo 101ci and the new upcoming Sony UHD player also has such description. https://blog.sony.com/press/sony-unveils-first-4k-ultra-hd-blu-ray-player-designed-to-meet-the-needs-of-custom-installers/


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on September 19, 2016, 16:53
Custom Install is usually in high end home theatres where the audio and video system is integrated with a smart home automation system.

Google Control4.

Basically with a Control4 controller and a remote I can control my AV systems, pipe music and video to multi rooms and also have in one control device access to curtains, blinds, security systems and cameras and DVRs, air conditioners, door intercom stations, wirelessly unlock or lock doors etc.

Not all AV equipment have drivers to Control4. Those that do often label them as CI models.

Denon used to denote CI models with a suffix on their models in the US.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: tonytakitani on September 22, 2016, 20:20
Do let us know is this player can switch to our local Voltage or need to buy a Step-Up plug transformer. Thanks.

Guess what the DHL guy brought in today...this thing is TINY, I love it already haha:
http://imgur.com/mMDlPir

The power adapter states 120V input:
http://imgur.com/CVASG3e

Which doesn't make sense logistically. For the past decade most CE power supply have been multi-voltage.
Luckily the case is easy to open.

So the top right of the circuit board says "T3.15A/L250V"
http://imgur.com/fceGoZ6

And on the reverse side, at the 2-pin lead there's a marking "2.5A 250V".
http://imgur.com/py9Rfds

Can any EE/electricians/experts here confirm if its multivoltage?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: alamakazam on September 22, 2016, 20:42
the "2-pin lead" is generic marking

looking at the simplicity of this psu... I think is  single voltage


Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: flowerpot on September 22, 2016, 20:45
Cap is 200V rating only...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: jdc115 on September 22, 2016, 20:48
It can be a media streamer but doesn't seem to support h.265.  That would have been nice.  I see it does Netflix but no mention of Amazon, do you happen to know?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: tonytakitani on September 23, 2016, 19:16
the "2-pin lead" is generic marking

looking at the simplicity of this psu... I think is  single voltage

Cap is 200V rating only...

So confirmed 120V only? Luckily got a few step-down transformers in the storeroom.

Anyway played "Creed" yesterday night. Meant to test-test only, but ended up watching till the end. Very moving performance by Sly, probably the best of his career?
And I finally understand the benefit of HDR...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: wizardofoz on September 23, 2016, 19:25
Go and buy a 12v power supply 2.5a from koba should be around $30 and throw that one in the bin.


Or find an old modem or other smps powersupply as you probably have then on old gear like modems and routers, check the output voltage is 12V and center pin is +
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Norman_Chan on October 05, 2016, 21:06
So what HDMI version cable you use on this Philips UHD blu ray player?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: htancl on October 06, 2016, 21:35
The Samsung K8500 UHD player is now available locally and selling for $539 at mustafa. Local set with warranty.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on October 06, 2016, 21:42
The Samsung K8500 UHD player is now available locally and selling for $539 at mustafa. Local set with warranty.
$539 is a decent price, but IMO, if the Oppo shows up locally before Xmas, that will be the player to watch..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: BozQ on October 07, 2016, 00:17
The Samsung K8500 UHD player is now available locally and selling for $539 at mustafa. Local set with warranty.
Oohh! Thanks for the heads up!
I guess this is the first UHD BD player to make it here?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Norman_Chan on October 07, 2016, 14:21
The Samsung K8500 UHD player is now available locally and selling for $539 at mustafa. Local set with warranty.

Wah...Mustafa drop S$60 from the official price....
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: BozQ on October 07, 2016, 15:21
Other than Mustafa, anywhere else selling this?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: htancl on October 07, 2016, 22:55
Other than Mustafa, anywhere else selling this?

Since official launched in SG, big stores like HN, BD should also be selling but probably only $20 off the retail price at best. You may want to call up store like Parissilk and other neighbour store to check for lowest price.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: htng on October 08, 2016, 10:08
Guess what the DHL guy brought in today...this thing is TINY, I love it already haha:
http://imgur.com/mMDlPir

The power adapter states 120V input:
http://imgur.com/CVASG3e

Which doesn't make sense logistically. For the past decade most CE power supply have been multi-voltage.
Luckily the case is easy to open.

So the top right of the circuit board says "T3.15A/L250V"
http://imgur.com/fceGoZ6

And on the reverse side, at the 2-pin lead there's a marking "2.5A 250V".
http://imgur.com/py9Rfds

Can any EE/electricians/experts here confirm if its multivoltage?

Is it possible to get a 240V power adapter. You just need to convert the AC to DC
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on October 08, 2016, 13:31
I don't think bro Tony wants a transformer brick that's almost the same size as his player ;)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Norman_Chan on October 08, 2016, 23:25
Think can go Challenger take a look , they sell those step-up wall adaptor. The rating is by what wattage you want. Think start from 60w or 80w than 100w etc.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Jag on October 09, 2016, 10:12
Start from 50w and above.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: tonytakitani on October 09, 2016, 23:21
Or find an old modem or other smps powersupply as you probably have then on old gear like modems and routers, check the output voltage is 12V and center pin is +

That was a good suggestion.
I remembered my Netgear R7000 router actually came with 2 multivoltage AC adapters; for US and UK pins.

Well what do you know; the voltage, amp rating and jack size fits perfectly :) http://imgur.com/a/K97hP
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: tonytakitani on October 09, 2016, 23:38
So what HDMI version cable you use on this Philips UHD blu ray player?

The Philips Player comes with HDMI cable which I didn't use.
Bought some active high-speed cables from Monoprice: https://www.monoprice.com/Product?p_id=13591

They're very slim flexible ones to match my LG OLED and very easy to run. No more stupidly thick HDMIs from the previous generation.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: MasK on October 14, 2016, 10:59
Hi all,
I got the K8500 and KS7500 TV for review and they seem to work well together.
However, I was excited to try the K8500 with my personal JS9000 TV, but the results are just crappy.
I made sure UHD color was turned on both sides and resolution was 4K. However, picture looked blurry with lots of MPEG noise and trailing effects on moving objects. Honestly it looks like 480p being stretched up.

I refuse to believe that it could be a cable issue.. but really.. is this something I have to look at? After all, the PQ looks like it's having analog artifacts like what you have over long analog cables.
The HDMI cable I use is nothing fancy.. it just says high speed with ethernet.

Apparently I ran the connection via my Denon X2100 but it downscaled to 1080p because it does not support HDCP2.2 (major bummer btw). But still this 1080p looked way better than the 4K directly connected to the TV.

Don't intend to invest much on this solution as the K8500 is temporary and I just wanna test it out on my TV.

Thanks!
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: tonytakitani on October 16, 2016, 22:28
Heads up, the Philips 4K player price has just dropped another US$50 to  US$249 (excl. tax), with free domestic shipping.

https://www.amazon.com/Philips-Blu-Ray-Player-BDP7501-Blu-ray/dp/B01HBYUYSU

That's really good value, and I'm loving the PQ and simplicity of the player so far.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: BozQ on October 23, 2016, 10:44
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1869280599960289&id=1657890874432597

Xbox One S is finally coming to Singapore. But only the Gears of War 4 bundle with 2TB HDD set for now. At $629.

I really hope the 500GB comes very soon after. Don't need such a high end console when my PS4 is still working perfectly.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on October 23, 2016, 10:50
Just beat in mind the limitations of it in case you want atmos. Right now it can't do that.
Just do a search on bit stream and the x box. Cheers
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: BozQ on October 23, 2016, 10:54
Yeah I know. It only decodes to LPCM 7.1
And I've been reading in Blu-ray.com forums that there are some compatibility issues with some titles.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on October 23, 2016, 16:56
The Xbox one S quality of picture playback quality actually is very much better than the Samsung...
I had both these machines in my house to do a actual comparison...
Picture quality ah.. not sound decoding..
Yes, the Xbox one S can't do Atmos natively at the moment..
The Samsung can...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: BozQ on October 23, 2016, 17:39
@CASH, where did you order your Xbox One S from?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on October 23, 2016, 17:40
I bought it from Australia...
 ;D
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on October 24, 2016, 15:23
The better picture quality in the Xbox one S should be due to the advanced GPU chip in it...
Guess the Samsung doesn't have a really good GPU chip in it...
But, it still can play 4K UHD Discs..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: whitesox on October 24, 2016, 16:29
The Xbox one S quality of picture playback quality actually is very much better than the Samsung...
I had both these machines in my house to do a actual comparison...
Picture quality ah.. not sound decoding..
Yes, the Xbox one S can't do Atmos natively at the moment..
The Samsung can...
\
Can it play old Xbox games?
When I bought PS4, I didn't know that majority of PS2 games can NOT be played in this machine
 :-[
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on October 24, 2016, 16:31
It can.. jus go to Xbox website to see the compatibility list...
Not the 1st version of Xbox games..
Only the Xbox 360 games...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: BozQ on October 24, 2016, 17:03
Well Microsoft is considering backwards compatibility with the original Xbox games. That would be awesome if that's coming. :D
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: BozQ on October 27, 2016, 00:13
Well guess what? Dolby Atmos bitstreaming is coming to Xbox One S! I'm definitely getting this now.

Now to see if they can support Dolby Vision next year.

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161026/2fba170b4f5214a513612fe48c5c0db1.jpg)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on October 27, 2016, 01:49
great news!!!
 ;D
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on October 27, 2016, 08:38
Good news, especially for those who want a gaming platform and UHD player:
http://www.whathifi.com/news/xbox-one-to-get-bitstream-audio-and-dolby-atmos-support

I wonder how much is it in SG..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: BozQ on October 27, 2016, 09:01
$629 for the Gears of War 4, 2TB console bundle.

So I estimate the regular 500GB to be around $499
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: kelccm on October 27, 2016, 10:02
This is indeed good news. Definitely will get the new Xbox One S with this new update.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: DJQ on October 27, 2016, 23:42
Well guess what? Dolby Atmos bitstreaming is coming to Xbox One S! I'm definitely getting this now.

Now to see if they can support Dolby Vision next year.

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161026/2fba170b4f5214a513612fe48c5c0db1.jpg)

wow. great!!!
(http://static.trustedreviews.com/94/00003a36c/2d2f_orh400w600/xbox-one-s-15.jpg)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on November 02, 2016, 18:17
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1869280599960289&id=1657890874432597 (https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1869280599960289&id=1657890874432597)


Pre-order bundle out...


Xbox One S 2TB Console - Gears of War 4 Limited Edition Bundle


The Xbox One S Gears of War 4 Limited Edition Bundle (2TB), featuring a gritty, battle-weathered console and controller, 4K Ultra HD video, custom system sounds, High Dynamic Range, and a vertical stand.


Includes a full game download of Gears of War 4: Ultimate Edition for both Xbox One and Windows 10, with exclusive weapon and character skins, a unique multiplayer lobby emblem, six Gear Packs, and even cross-play, so you can continue the fight across multiple devices.


Plus, you get the Gears of War 4 Season Pass, featuring the exclusive Vintage VIP Pack, permanent access to future multiplayer maps for private games, six additional Gear Packs, early previews to upcoming modes, and much more.


As one of the most acclaimed video game franchises in history, everything you love about Gears of War is even better on Xbox One.


Available for preorder at all our retail outlets islandwide!
-
Tiong Bahru #03-103
302 Tiong Bahru Rd, S168732
Tel: 6352 2672
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WaterWay Point #02-18
83 Punggol Central #02-18, S828761
Tel: 6385 9172
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Nex @ Serangoon Central (MRT)
23 Serangoon Central #04-32 S556083
Tel: 6634 0240
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Bedok Mall #‎B1-17
311 New Upper Changi Road #B1-17 S467360
Tel: 6384 1451
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Junction 8 Shopping Centre #04-07
9 Bishan Place #04-07 S579837
Tel: 6397 5528
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Jurong Point Shopping Centre #03-36
1 Jurong West Central 2 S648886
Tel: 6316 5984
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Lot 1 Shopper's Mall #04-13
21 Chua Chu Kang Ave 4 #04-13 S689812
Tel: 6769 6129
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Bukit Panjang Plaza #04-10
1 Jelebu Road #04-10 S677742
Tel: 6769 6455
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Clementi Mall #04-29
3155 Commonwealth Avenue West #04-29 S129855
Tel: 6570 6084
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Plaza Singapura #06-04
68 Orchard Road #06-04 S238839
Tel: 6238 7632
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Causeway Point Shopping Centre #04-04
1 Woodlands Square #04-05 S738099
Tel: 6891 2836
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JEM #04-29
50 Jurong Gateway Road #04-29 S608549
Tel: 6334 6753
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Tampines Mall #04-12
4 Tampines Central 5, S529510
Tel: 6538 0144
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: BozQ on November 02, 2016, 18:31
Not yet. Release date is 25 November.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on November 02, 2016, 18:33
Not yet. Release date is 25 November.
That's why it's  called a pre-order :)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on November 03, 2016, 00:23
i have two sets of XBOX one S, up n running in my home now!
1 in hall, n the other in my bedroom..
hehehehe!!!
 ;D
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: BozQ on November 03, 2016, 00:46
That's why it's  called a pre-order :)
Crap. Sorry. I saw it as "bundle out".
Remember kids, never get high. On cough medicine.
i have two sets of XBOX one S, up n running in my home now!
1 in hall, n the other in my bedroom..
hehehehe!!!
 ;D
Bought both from AU?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on November 03, 2016, 00:50
yup....
australia had it launched very much earlier...
n its multi voltage too.
110-240 volts..
great n cheap machine.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: landis1 on November 03, 2016, 10:13
why buy from the german website ComputerUniverse ?

because they are as reliable as amazon, the same 240 voltage as in singapore, the electrical appliances are built with the same type-g of power socket, no waiting for pre-orders as they sell and ship the new items very fast, they sell a lot of items at a reasonable price, etc. i have been buying from them for almost a year and i am very satisfied with their prices and service. in fact they have taken over the bulk of my ebay and amazon purchases ;D

i buy a lot of my stuff from the australian jb hi-fi store also. their prices are ok but i simply hate the different power socket for electrical appliances.

taking credit card exchange rate at 1.55 and shipping costs to singapore at €30 :

the Samsung UBD-K8500/EN shipping at €261 + €30 = €291 or s$451
https://www.computeruniverse.net/en/products/90642355/samsung-ubd-k8500-en-ultra-hd-player.asp

(https://dstatic.computeruniverse.net/images/1000/906423554EF110FCA9D347CCA93007C9.jpg)

Microsoft Xbox One S 500GB Bundle with Fifa 17 at €248 + €30 = €278 or s$431
https://www.computeruniverse.net/en/products/90665744/microsoft-xbox-one-s-500gb-bundle-inkl-fifa-17.asp

(https://dstatic.computeruniverse.net/images/800/9066574453118AD635A34DA2A2E7BDA6.jpg)

Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: landis1 on November 03, 2016, 10:46
but if the cheapest 4k upscaling solution is what you are looking for ;D

the Panasonic DMP-BDT184EG €78 + €30 = €108 or s$168
https://www.computeruniverse.net/en/products/90637055/panasonic-dmp-bdt184eg.asp

(https://dstatic.computeruniverse.net/images/1000/90637055BC1CC6161B5044EEBD7AE239.jpg)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on November 03, 2016, 10:55
But the Panny is a upscale.. not true 4K output..
Cannot leh..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on November 03, 2016, 15:18
Panny is this.....

(http://www.flatpanelshd.com/pictures/panasonicub900-1l.jpg)

(Audio)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: DJQ on November 03, 2016, 15:20
 :o woah sleek with front bezel diamond look. nice.  :D
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on November 03, 2016, 15:24
But in all honesty, none of the true 4K players will beat, or even come close to Oppo's 4K UHD Players...
Can play SACD, DVD AUDIO, n the likes...
Throw anything in that player, n it plays...
 ;D
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Tiktokape on November 03, 2016, 15:27
Panny is this.....

(http://www.flatpanelshd.com/pictures/panasonicub900-1l.jpg)

(Audio)
Did you bought that? How is it ah?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: shenzenus on November 03, 2016, 16:59
Yes. Am holding purchases of UHD players and waiting for new Oppo to hit our shore.

But in all honesty, none of the true 4K players will beat, or even come close to Oppo's 4K UHD Players...
Can play SACD, DVD AUDIO, n the likes...
Throw anything in that player, n it plays...
 ;D
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on November 03, 2016, 17:13
 ;D
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on November 03, 2016, 17:47
Did you bought that? How is it ah?

Yah, it is good but costed me $1.4K total plus shipping.   :)

Tonight it will play Star Trek Beyond.....

(Audio)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on November 03, 2016, 17:52
But in all honesty, none of the true 4K players will beat, or even come close to Oppo's 4K UHD Players...
Can play SACD, DVD AUDIO, n the likes...
Throw anything in that player, n it plays...
 ;D

Correct....neither can any of these cheap players will beat the price of the Oppo.

In Cantonese, we say " Yat Fun Cin, Yat Fun Four".  Which means " You pay what you get....."

For cheap 4K players, I recommend the Samsung or the Philips....I would have bought the Phillips (US$249) when I saw it in Chicago...but I am guilty already....already own the Samsung and the Panny....

(Audio)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: DJQ on November 03, 2016, 17:57
Yah, it is good but costed me $1.4K total plus shipping.   :)

Tonight it will play Star Trek Beyond.....

(Audio)
must be the THX badge....
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: jdc115 on November 03, 2016, 18:17
But in all honesty, none of the true 4K players will beat, or even come close to Oppo's 4K UHD Players...
Can play SACD, DVD AUDIO, n the likes...
Throw anything in that player, n it plays...
 ;D

Having moved my SACD to ISO files as well as all my CDs, I don't think I will buy another Oppo player when I move to 4K.  If only playing movies over HDMI, I'll go the cheaper route.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Tiktokape on November 03, 2016, 18:56
Yah, it is good but costed me $1.4K total plus shipping.   :)

Tonight it will play Star Trek Beyond.....

(Audio)
I'm still thinking over it, I want a pure 4K BRP with good picture output, less regards the versatile Oppo with bells & whistles which fall short in picture unless I mod the digital in-built component.


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: StephenBishop on November 03, 2016, 18:59
why buy from the german website ComputerUniverse ?

because they are as reliable as amazon, the same 240 voltage as in singapore, the electrical appliances are built with the same type-g of power socket, no waiting for pre-orders as they sell and ship the new items very fast, they sell a lot of items at a reasonable price, etc. i have been buying from them for almost a year and i am very satisfied with their prices and service. in fact they have taken over the bulk of my ebay and amazon purchases ;D

i buy a lot of my stuff from the australian jb hi-fi store also. their prices are ok but i simply hate the different power socket for electrical appliances.

taking credit card exchange rate at 1.55 and shipping costs to singapore at €30 :

<snip>

Microsoft Xbox One S 500GB Bundle with Fifa 17 at €248 + €30 = €278 or s$431
https://www.computeruniverse.net/en/products/90665744/microsoft-xbox-one-s-500gb-bundle-inkl-fifa-17.asp

(https://dstatic.computeruniverse.net/images/800/9066574453118AD635A34DA2A2E7BDA6.jpg)



Amazon UK cheaper for the Xbox One S FIFA 17 500 GB Bundle. Taking exchange rate today of £ 1 = SGD 1.72

Xbox One S FIFA 17 500 GB Bundle £197.91 + Postage & Packing £21.98 = £219.89 = SGD 378.21

Also, as amount is less than SGD 400.00 GST is not chargeable.

Bonus is a UK plug- same as Singapore!

Order today- delivery will be scheduled for between 7 and 9 November.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: durianlover88 on November 03, 2016, 19:02
Correct....neither can any of these cheap players will beat the price of the Oppo.

In Cantonese, we say " Yat Fun Cin, Yat Fun Four".  Which means " You pay what you get....."

For cheap 4K players, I recommend the Samsung or the Philips....I would have bought the Phillips (US$249) when I saw it in Chicago...but I am guilty already....already own the Samsung and the Panny....

(Audio)
I have to say bery happy with the Panny UB900. Zero issues so far...solid playback and firmware operation :)

I don't think I need the Oppo...

Yat fan qin ($), liong fan for (货), if we know what we doing.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on November 03, 2016, 19:38
Do X Box games have region coding?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: StephenBishop on November 03, 2016, 20:09
Do X Box games have region coding?

Not sure as I do not have an Xbox One but I believe the games bought at retail are region free.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on November 03, 2016, 21:32
Do X Box games have region coding?

no region coding for xbox games...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Knight_Rider on November 03, 2016, 21:51
Specs not bad

https://www.cnet.com/products/panasonic-dmp-ub900/
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Norman_Chan on November 04, 2016, 02:25
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=DMP-UB900

Wow...both Samsung and Philips 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray Player price drop....
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: BozQ on November 04, 2016, 04:27
no region coding for xbox games...
But warranty? Not covered by Microsoft SG, right?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on November 04, 2016, 07:04
I dunno about warranty bro...
Never had to raise a issue of warranty before..
I jus bought it for its capabilities of playing games n 4K UHD playback..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Tiktokape on November 04, 2016, 14:54
I dunno about warranty bro...
Never had to raise a issue of warranty before..
I jus bought it for its capabilities of playing games n 4K UHD playback..

How is the loading in Xbox? I suppose it is region free player ya?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Tiktokape on November 04, 2016, 16:01
Audio & DL: For Panasonic DMP-UB900, is your unit bought from EU? Any region issue with Bluray bought from USA? I'm not talking about 4k Bluray which is region-free.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: BozQ on November 04, 2016, 16:14
Hmm. I think I'll wait for local release first. See how much is it. If not maybe I'll wait for Xbox Scorpio.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: jaze on November 07, 2016, 16:55
Amazon UK cheaper for the Xbox One S FIFA 17 500 GB Bundle. Taking exchange rate today of £ 1 = SGD 1.72

Xbox One S FIFA 17 500 GB Bundle £197.91 + Postage & Packing £21.98 = £219.89 = SGD 378.21

Also, as amount is less than SGD 400.00 GST is not chargeable.

Bonus is a UK plug- same as Singapore!

Order today- delivery will be scheduled for between 7 and 9 November.

Tried to order from Amazon UK but it says doesnt ship to SG ..... u mean using a forwarder ?

thanks
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: StephenBishop on November 07, 2016, 20:35
Tried to order from Amazon UK but it says doesnt ship to SG ..... u mean using a forwarder ?

thanks

No direct ship by Amazon UK to Singapore. Try this link.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01KI13K0W/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE

My order was delivered this morning.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on November 07, 2016, 20:51
Audio & DL: For Panasonic DMP-UB900, is your unit bought from EU? Any region issue with Bluray bought from USA? I'm not talking about 4k Bluray which is region-free.

Both DL and I bought our units from Pure Theatre in UK.  Yes, there is Blu Ray region restriction.  The only reason why you want to buy this is for 4K Blu Ray, anything else use your old Blu Ray player.

(Audio)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on November 07, 2016, 21:05
Tried to order from Amazon UK but it says doesnt ship to SG ..... u mean using a forwarder ?

thanks
Bro, click around a bit la, the 500gb doesn't ship over, but the 1TB does:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01KI13KAW/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&th=1

Sometimes this will vary, so try again. Also check that the vendor is actually Amazon. Cheers
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Tiktokape on November 07, 2016, 21:45
Both DL and I bought our units from Pure Theatre in UK.  Yes, there is Blu Ray region restriction.  The only reason why you want to buy this is for 4K Blu Ray, anything else use your old Blu Ray player.

(Audio)
Thanks Audio, just ring the bell on Pure Theatre. Yeah, I'm looking at 4K playback.


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on November 08, 2016, 08:15
How is the loading in Xbox? I suppose it is region free player ya?

Sadly none of the players are region free for bluray playback. (Only 4K UHD Bluray discs are region free)
unless u get it modified from internet websites that offer Hardware Chips or Firmware Modified files, then it can play any region coded regular blurays.
once again, All 4K UHD blurays are region free. (jus for info for those that are still sceptical about region coding)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on November 08, 2016, 08:17
the xbox one s is a slot load machine.
very smooth in slotting discs in.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Tiktokape on November 08, 2016, 08:24
I know 4K playback is region free, just wondering if normal bluray playback is region locked as well if importing from EU.

Nah, not going to modify any or so, crumblesome as it is. As much as I think Xbox is one given solution, my primary focus is mainly on picture quality from a native 4K BRP.


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on November 08, 2016, 08:37
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(http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w33/cashkey/IMG20161108083159.jpg) (http://s172.photobucket.com/user/cashkey/media/IMG20161108083159.jpg.html)

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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on November 08, 2016, 08:41
in the xbox one s, these are configurable settings for u to use.
it comes with a calibration option for u to calibrate your 4K tv to settings u want n like to see.
(color, brightness, contrast, gamma, etc....)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Tiktokape on November 08, 2016, 08:46
Thanks for the screenshot, meanwhile I will KIV Xbox. Nah, I have calibrated my 4k TV using external software a while ago. Not going to touch any using end-device to tweak further  ;D

Maybe I should rephrase that the primary focus is picture quality from a native 4k BRP plus I don't game, kind of defeat the purpose on owning it.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on November 08, 2016, 08:47
cheers!!
 ;D
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: jaze on November 08, 2016, 12:57
Bro, click around a bit la, the 500gb doesn't ship over, but the 1TB does:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01KI13KAW/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&th=1

Sometimes this will vary, so try again. Also check that the vendor is actually Amazon. Cheers

thanks a lot !
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: BozQ on November 08, 2016, 13:28
If you get the Xbox One S from UK or AU, then I think the console is locked to Region B for regular Blu-ray. Hmm. Since I already have a Region A player at home, this sounds like a decent option, opening up my choices of getting Blu-rays from EU, UK and AU.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: landis1 on November 08, 2016, 13:58
Sadly none of the players are region free for bluray playback

one of the best and cheapest region free bluray players that plays everything you throw at it, for only au$100

http://www.laserco.com.au/BLU-BD2000-bd2000-multi-region-blu-ray-and-media-player

(http://www.laserco.com.au/image/cache/data/product_images/BLU-BD2000/blu-bd2000-bd2000-multi-region-blu-ray-and-media-player-924-750x750.jpg)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on November 08, 2016, 14:13
Claim to fame is like this old ad :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwrYHJ-worA

http://www.youtube.com/v/CwrYHJ-worA&fs=1
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on November 08, 2016, 14:15
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: landis1 on November 08, 2016, 15:13
yes it reminds me of those days when oppo dvd players first started selling ;D
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Norman_Chan on November 21, 2016, 16:03
Price drop so fast in Amazon....

Samsung UBD-K8500 3D Wi-Fi 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray Player (2016 Model) , price drop to USD197.99
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on November 25, 2016, 11:49
my 3, XBOX ONE S, 4K players at home...
the two white sets are Aussie players..(Region B, for regular Blurays)
the greenish/blue set is a US set..(Region A, for regular Blurays)
hehehehe!!!!

(http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w33/cashkey/IMG20161125113716.jpg) (http://s172.photobucket.com/user/cashkey/media/IMG20161125113716.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on November 30, 2016, 12:44
A general article about 4k players :
http://www.soundandvision.com/content/oppo-does-ultra-hd#Shzlm3iyavDdG1HS.97

Slow day out there, whilst waiting for real 4k player news I guess..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on November 30, 2016, 16:51
Would the Oppo handle "downscaling" UHD HDR WCG to say FullHD SDR Rec709?

Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on November 30, 2016, 17:46
I guess we will find out when we get our hands on this baby.. and let's hope I get one soon!
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: SLT on December 01, 2016, 14:41
Would the Oppo handle "downscaling" UHD HDR WCG to say FullHD SDR Rec709?

Yes
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on December 01, 2016, 16:01
Yes

NICE

Thanks for the confirmation.

So looks like i could borrow the Oppo and the Marantz 6011 for a "home trial" without a 4K projector

Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: luqman123 on December 01, 2016, 17:39
i would jump to 4k wagon only when 3d start available.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on December 07, 2016, 07:21
X box arrives this month:
http://www.hardwarezone.com.sg/feature-hands-xbox-one-s-4k-and-hdr-capable-gaming-console
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: BozQ on December 07, 2016, 14:29
$499 for the 1TB console and Battlefield 1 digital download. Slightly steeper than I expected.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: wizardofoz on December 07, 2016, 14:55
The OPPO 203 MO has closed...get your info in please
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: BozQ on December 08, 2016, 01:16
Ok. So I wasn't really paying attention before. S$499 is quite comparable I suppose.
On Amazon, it's US$339. That's about S$482.

Crossing my fingers for a 500GB standard console. Not willing to spend too much currently. :/

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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: siuwjuh on December 12, 2016, 17:00
I got my Xbox One S yesterday. First thing after setting things up is to play a 4k bluray disc. Picture quality looks the same as an upscaled 4k normal bluray (on my Sony S6500).

My setup: Xbox One S -> Denon X7200WA -> Sony VPL VW520 (Projector)
I need to plug the Xbox to the AVR because I am using a projector. I thought, otherwise, no sound.

On the Xbox, under settings > Video, it says 4k UHD. But I saw a lot of exclamation marks on the X-bit Y-Hz, basically saying that I may be able to play things at 8-bit.

On the projector, 4k and HDR are enabled, and where necessary, set to "Auto".

I read comments from Cash that PQ is supposed to be superior (while sound may not). I must be missing something?

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/siuwjuh/IMG_0499_zpsa39avvld.jpg) (http://s58.photobucket.com/user/siuwjuh/media/IMG_0499_zpsa39avvld.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on December 12, 2016, 17:45
(http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w33/cashkey/IMG20161108083107.jpg) (http://s172.photobucket.com/user/cashkey/media/IMG20161108083107.jpg.html)

(http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w33/cashkey/IMG20161108083140.jpg) (http://s172.photobucket.com/user/cashkey/media/IMG20161108083140.jpg.html)

(http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w33/cashkey/IMG20161108083159.jpg) (http://s172.photobucket.com/user/cashkey/media/IMG20161108083159.jpg.html)

(http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w33/cashkey/IMG20161108083232.jpg) (http://s172.photobucket.com/user/cashkey/media/IMG20161108083232.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on December 12, 2016, 17:48
I got my Xbox One S yesterday. First thing after setting things up is to play a 4k bluray disc. Picture quality looks the same as an upscaled 4k normal bluray (on my Sony S6500).

My setup: Xbox One S -> Denon X7200WA -> Sony VPL VW520 (Projector)
I need to plug the Xbox to the AVR because I am using a projector. I thought, otherwise, no sound.

On the Xbox, under settings > Video, it says 4k UHD. But I saw a lot of exclamation marks on the X-bit Y-Hz, basically saying that I may be able to play things at 8-bit.

On the projector, 4k and HDR are enabled, and where necessary, set to "Auto".

I read comments from Cash that PQ is supposed to be superior (while sound may not). I must be missing something?

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/siuwjuh/IMG_0499_zpsa39avvld.jpg) (http://s58.photobucket.com/user/siuwjuh/media/IMG_0499_zpsa39avvld.jpg.html)



see my above post bro...
all of my Xbox one s ticks are green...
yours are mostly all not...
the player is capable.. but the other components in the down line are not...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: ahduck on December 12, 2016, 18:29
Try update PJ to latest firmware?
I read those reddit post some say 8bit panel cannot play HDR10.
But not sure.. still waiting for 4K player to arrive..

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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: siuwjuh on December 12, 2016, 20:28
No joy. Firmware was updated, but still lots of yellow "!"s. No new green ticks like Cash...

Maybe the PJ doesn't support HDR10. Will run 8-bit colour depth then.

Games look good though.

Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on December 12, 2016, 20:32
I got my Xbox One S yesterday. First thing after setting things up is to play a 4k bluray disc. Picture quality looks the same as an upscaled 4k normal bluray (on my Sony S6500).

My setup: Xbox One S -> Denon X7200WA -> Sony VPL VW520 (Projector)
I need to plug the Xbox to the AVR because I am using a projector. I thought, otherwise, no sound.

On the Xbox, under settings > Video, it says 4k UHD. But I saw a lot of exclamation marks on the X-bit Y-Hz, basically saying that I may be able to play things at 8-bit.

On the projector, 4k and HDR are enabled, and where necessary, set to "Auto".

I read comments from Cash that PQ is supposed to be superior (while sound may not). I must be missing something?

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/siuwjuh/IMG_0499_zpsa39avvld.jpg) (http://s58.photobucket.com/user/siuwjuh/media/IMG_0499_zpsa39avvld.jpg.html)

Which HDMI port on the 520 are you using?

Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on December 12, 2016, 22:47
I got my Xbox One S yesterday. First thing after setting things up is to play a 4k bluray disc. Picture quality looks the same as an upscaled 4k normal bluray (on my Sony S6500).

My setup: Xbox One S -> Denon X7200WA -> Sony VPL VW520 (Projector)
I need to plug the Xbox to the AVR because I am using a projector. I thought, otherwise, no sound.

On the Xbox, under settings > Video, it says 4k UHD. But I saw a lot of exclamation marks on the X-bit Y-Hz, basically saying that I may be able to play things at 8-bit.

On the projector, 4k and HDR are enabled, and where necessary, set to "Auto".

I read comments from Cash that PQ is supposed to be superior (while sound may not). I must be missing something?

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/siuwjuh/IMG_0499_zpsa39avvld.jpg) (http://s58.photobucket.com/user/siuwjuh/media/IMG_0499_zpsa39avvld.jpg.html)


IIRC only HDMI Input 2 supports HDCP 2.2 - a requirement for 4K UHD display. Chances are you are using HDMI Input 1. Make a switch to see if it works. AFAIK Sony VW-520ES does support HDR10 (SMPTE) but probably not Dolby Vision.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: siuwjuh on December 13, 2016, 00:10
AVR is connected to HDMI2 port of the PJ.

 :-\
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on December 29, 2016, 09:12
http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Samsung/Ultra_HD/4K/hdr/ultra-hd-bluray-players/dtsx/Dolby_Atmos/ces-2017/Bluetooth/mobile/samsung-reveals-new-m9500-ultra-hd-bluray-player/37521


We have another choice from Samsung...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on January 05, 2017, 15:10
Sony's 4k player:
https://www.cnet.com/products/sony-ubp-x1000es/preview/
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: ahduck on January 05, 2017, 23:01
Sony's 4k player:
https://www.cnet.com/products/sony-ubp-x1000es/preview/

The one you mentioned above was the Custom Installation model, one I asked few weeks ago.

New Sony model is UBP-X800
http://www.sony.ca/en/electronics/blu-ray-disc-players/ubp-x800
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on January 22, 2017, 16:13
The Panasonic gets a good review:
http://www.soundandvision.com/content/panasonic-dmp-ub900-ultra-hd-blu-ray-player-page-2#Pez0GSdH8XvTZdB4.97
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: bluepill193 on February 21, 2017, 13:02
Guys what are the UHD players that play SACD as well? From what I can find, only Oppo and Sony UBP-X800. I will be getting a Marantz SACD player for stereo playback, but would like to play the occasional multichannel SACD as well...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: bluepill193 on March 03, 2017, 17:43
The sony UBP X800 price in 299 in US, and 399 in UK, available 12 April 2017. No news on Singapore Sony website, sigh. If direct import from UK to avoid having to use step-down transformer, price incl delivery is same or more than the Oppo 203, sianz
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on March 03, 2017, 18:06
Just got the Panasonic today. Will try to set it up with the Sony TV and see if the oversaturated colors I saw on the Oppo and JVC projector also appears on the Sony TV and the Panasonic.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: durianlover88 on March 04, 2017, 00:03
Broler DH, you won't be disappointed with the Pana UB900 - reliable, steady, predictable, colors swee swee!
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on March 05, 2017, 12:46
The sony UBP X800 price in 299 in US, and 399 in UK, available 12 April 2017. No news on Singapore Sony website, sigh. If direct import from UK to avoid having to use step-down transformer, price incl delivery is same or more than the Oppo 203, sianz
http://www.whathifi.com/sony/ubp-x800/review
Looks promising..
Let's hope Sony brings one in.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: ahduck on March 06, 2017, 16:14
Anyone planning going Japan soon to see if stock are available?

I'd love to buy one for my PC if available.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/3162004/windows/pioneer-reveals-the-first-4k-blu-ray-drives-for-pcs.html

Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: htng on April 03, 2017, 21:57
Price drop so fast in Amazon....

Samsung UBD-K8500 3D Wi-Fi 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray Player (2016 Model) , price drop to USD197.99

Can this model support 220/230V?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on April 03, 2017, 23:52
Can this model support 220/230V?
Bro Jeffong has one - no 220V. See his comments earlier on in the thread, cheers.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: htng on April 04, 2017, 20:07
Any economical uhd player? Xbox one S from U.K.? Seems like $199 pounds is a good buy
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on April 04, 2017, 21:00
I got my Panasonic 900 for under $590 in Australia through a Good Guys and eBay promo. I believe VideoPro was the other option.

Xbox one S was $299 in Australia with one free game. I got it for 130+ when I traded in my old Xbox one.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on April 04, 2017, 21:01
To be honest the Xbox one isn't an ideal player. Doesn't do a lot of the processing that the Oppo and Panasonic supports.

Unless you need DV the Panasonic is the one to get.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: htng on April 04, 2017, 22:27
To be honest the Xbox one isn't an ideal player. Doesn't do a lot of the processing that the Oppo and Panasonic supports.

Unless you need DV the Panasonic is the one to get.

Wonder how to buy back from Australia. Need to wait for uhd players to reach our shores
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on April 04, 2017, 22:57
Wonder how to buy back from Australia. Need to wait for uhd players to reach our shores
Bro
If you are looking for cheap 4k players, ala those $200 BR players you can find in HN or BD, I am afraid you are a couple of years too early.
It's a nascent period, and 4k makers would like to make money first.
Which is why for the first wave, if you can find something local, there's already a bonus.
If it costs anywhere close to $500, it's a good deal.
We aren't US, Oz or even UK. There's volume, and you can see that TVs, BR players etc and even discs are cheaper elsewhere. Sadly we will need to import, maybe use transformers if we wish to be part of the first wave.
Otherwise, the Oppo is a local choice, but it isn't cheap, and for now, 4k remains cutting edge and comes with it's costs.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: htng on April 05, 2017, 19:47
Soon with Lazada and Amazon setting up warehouse in SG/ Malaysia, we will see a drastic drop in pricing.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on April 06, 2017, 20:11
Soon with Lazada and Amazon setting up warehouse in SG/ Malaysia, we will see a drastic drop in pricing.
FYI:
http://www.straitstimes.com/opinion/amazon-delay-shows-challenges-of-e-commerce-in-s-e-asia

Most of our discs are produced locally, but you don't see the prices being comparable to US ones.. so I am not sure about the low prices, at least for a while..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: htng on April 09, 2017, 15:09
I guess majority of the forumers here are using oppo 203? The only uhd player in SG is Samsung k8500 and Oppo 203. Hopefully can see Sony and Panasonic within the next 3-4 months
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on April 09, 2017, 15:17
there is the XBOX ONE S too, in Singapore...
it also plays 4K UHD discs...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on April 09, 2017, 15:21
I guess majority of the forumers here are using oppo 203? The only uhd player in SG is Samsung k8500 and Oppo 203. Hopefully can see Sony and Panasonic within the next 3-4 months

I think Sammy from Sound Decisions carry the Panasonic 4K UHD player iirc.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: htng on April 09, 2017, 18:55
I think they are selling for $1400.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Hillviewer on April 10, 2017, 10:37
Any of these locally available UHD Player with Netflix working in SG?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: kikoman on April 12, 2017, 04:24
Just got my Sony UBP-X800 from states. Will try to connect it when I get back to sg.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: 5th Avenue on April 12, 2017, 22:02
Shipping the Panny 900 from Amaz UK will dent yr wallet ard SGD 720

A newer Panny 700 will be less damage ;D ;D ;D

 
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: wizardofoz on April 13, 2017, 01:11
Just got my Sony UBP-X800 from states. Will try to connect it when I get back to sg.


You better hope its a universal voltage model as some USA and JAP models are 120/100VAC only - so buyers beware


It could be internally changed to 120VAC, and might be possible to convert with a jumper but if its a fixed SMPS at 120VAC then you are going to have to use a step-down...so better be sure before you plug it in and toast it.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: htng on April 13, 2017, 06:46
Shipping the Panny 900 from Amaz UK will dent yr wallet ard SGD 720

A newer Panny 700 will be less damage ;D ;D ;D
 

Either is amazing. One issue is this player cannot play out typical bluray (different region) but luckily uhd 4k disc is not a problem. Definitely worth taking a look since SG importers are selling at $1400
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: kikoman on April 16, 2017, 01:06

You better hope its a universal voltage model as some USA and JAP models are 120/100VAC only - so buyers beware


It could be internally changed to 120VAC, and might be possible to convert with a jumper but if its a fixed SMPS at 120VAC then you are going to have to use a step-down...so better be sure before you plug it in and toast it.

Thanks for the advice. Using a step down. PQ and SQ are excellent. VFM.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: htng on April 17, 2017, 16:03
Awesome! Hopefully we will have the local version also
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: htng on April 20, 2017, 18:26
For those bro who are using Panasonic UB900, how is the upscaling for normal bluray? Is it obvious or better than conventional 4k upscaling players?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on April 20, 2017, 19:12
For those bro who are using Panasonic UB900, how is the upscaling for normal bluray? Is it obvious or better than conventional 4k upscaling players?

Some guys say Panasonic 900 upscales as good as than a MadVR PC and that's a very big compliment.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: durianlover88 on April 20, 2017, 20:19
Until now still mesmerised by the UB900 with its PQ and SQ. Owned for so many months....zero fault and song song gao Jurong smooooooooth operation :) bery Happy man!
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Au on April 20, 2017, 21:09
Hi everyone, where in sg sells the Panasonic u900?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on April 20, 2017, 21:12
Hi everyone, where in sg sells the Panasonic u900?
Check with Sound Decisions for availability and price.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Au on April 20, 2017, 21:19
Tks.  Is there anywhere else like courts or best Denki ?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: htng on April 21, 2017, 14:10
I doubt Best Denki, Courts etc will carry Panasonic UB900. Maybe too high end for them and little demand.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: htng on April 21, 2017, 14:24
Anyone bought the Panasonic UB700 instead of the UB900?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Norman_Chan on April 21, 2017, 16:24
Think presently Courts , Harvey Norman and BEST Denki only have the Samsung 4K BRP for sales...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Norman_Chan on May 04, 2017, 16:12
So now only Xbox One and Samsung UHD player and in this June , LG UHD player will be launching. How about Sony and Panasonic ? Any ideas their local launch date ?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: htng on May 05, 2017, 14:49
I am told panasonic will not come. Sony maybe in Aug
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: kikoman on May 07, 2017, 11:19
Sony X800 is really good.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: teaport337 on May 07, 2017, 11:49
I am told panasonic will not come. Sony maybe in Aug


hi guys,

was told by Sony Singapore this particular model
Sony UBP-X800

will not be available in Singapore.  :'(

Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: htng on May 09, 2017, 09:43

hi guys,

was told by Sony Singapore this particular model
Sony UBP-X800

will not be available in Singapore.  :'(



Sad news! Will Australia ship to SG?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Norman_Chan on May 11, 2017, 16:49
So those earlier UHD BR Player will not have the HDR features , correct ? The Philips , Samsung and Panasonic , all these from 2016 ,only the Xbox One and both the new Sony and LG will have the HDR feature in their player ?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: DJQ on May 11, 2017, 16:58

hi guys,

was told by Sony Singapore this particular model
Sony UBP-X800

will not be available in Singapore.  :'(



i email Sony 2 months ago, they say not available yet for singapore. there is no tentative date when the product will be available in SG.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: teaport337 on May 11, 2017, 18:00
i email Sony 2 months ago, they say not available yet for singapore. there is no tentative date when the product will be available in SG.

Right. I FB messaged them like last week. you may do so too. Lol.


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: canoli on May 11, 2017, 19:43
Shinjuku & Akhihabara selling ; the big electric store @ Akhihabara sells the 220v rest all JDM (110v) ; didn't buy this trip very exp ; planning to buy next trip when price drop and hopefully Yamaha comes out with a 4K player
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: DJQ on May 12, 2017, 17:03
Right. I FB messaged them like last week. you may do so too. Lol.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I resent a new query and I got this reply.

Thank you for your email to Sony Singapore.

Referring to your email inquiry, I would like to provide you with the following information.

The model which is UBP-X800 is not available at Singapore and we do not have a tentative date as when will it be available in Singapore.

I would suggest that you may refer to the link below to know more on the latest product launch.

http://www.sony.com.sg/microsite/latest/?cid=gwt:homepage:thelatest:8span:ms:sgactivities&cpint=1:HOMEPAGE_THELATEST8SPAN_SGSONYSGACTIVITIES_5005

I hope the above information provided is useful and should you need further assistance, feel free to contact me at 6544 8600 email to sg.cicenquiry@ap.sony.com.



Warmest regards,

Anne D/O J.Robit
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: ahduck on May 12, 2017, 20:11
How abt the UBP-X1000ES?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: wizardofoz on May 12, 2017, 22:11
Oppo udp205 au model just recieved in stores today selling at au$2199
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: htng on May 14, 2017, 22:53
I resent a new query and I got this reply.

Thank you for your email to Sony Singapore.

Referring to your email inquiry, I would like to provide you with the following information.

The model which is UBP-X800 is not available at Singapore and we do not have a tentative date as when will it be available in Singapore.

I would suggest that you may refer to the link below to know more on the latest product launch.

http://www.sony.com.sg/microsite/latest/?cid=gwt:homepage:thelatest:8span:ms:sgactivities&cpint=1:HOMEPAGE_THELATEST8SPAN_SGSONYSGACTIVITIES_5005

I hope the above information provided is useful and should you need further assistance, feel free to contact me at 6544 8600 email to sg.cicenquiry@ap.sony.com.



Warmest regards,

Anne D/O J.Robit

Beh kan answer. Next time just allow online to ship anywhere. Local all close shop/ consolidate
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: htng on May 25, 2017, 16:23
Panasonic UB900 selling for less than 400 pounds! Looks great!
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on May 25, 2017, 18:03
Panasonic UB900 selling for less than 400 pounds! Looks great!

Selling for 499 AUD! At JBHifi
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: htng on May 25, 2017, 18:16
Do they ship to SG?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on May 25, 2017, 18:43
Do they ship to SG?
Well maybe you can pay bro DH to help ship for you..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: htng on May 25, 2017, 19:49
Who is bro DH?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: BozQ on May 25, 2017, 19:52
Who is bro DH?
Doggie Howser. He's in Australia now, I believe.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on May 25, 2017, 21:29
Do they ship to SG?
you can ask JB:
https://www.jbhifi.com.au/tv-home-entertainment/players-recorders/panasonic/panasonic-dmp-ub900gnk-4k-ultra-hd-blu-ray-player/980416/
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: htng on May 26, 2017, 10:32
Nope, they don't do international shipping for this item
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: eggz on May 27, 2017, 11:15
Sony X800 is really good.

Yeah looks good, pity no path to Dolby Vision support at this time.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on May 29, 2017, 15:22
for all user's of XBOX ONE S,
u can now have Dolby Atmos working!!
Dolby has released a App on microsoft store called "Dolby Access"
jus install it n follow the instructions.
its a free app.
so now at last, it is a true 4k n dolby atmos player.
cheers!
 ;) :D ;D
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: ptey on May 30, 2017, 14:02
for all user's of XBOX ONE S,
u can now have Dolby Atmos working!!
Dolby has released a App on microsoft store called "Dolby Access"
jus install it n follow the instructions.
its a free app.
so now at last, it is a true 4k n dolby atmos player.
cheers!
 ;) :D ;D

Hi Bro, thanks for the tips. Installed and very nice!!!
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on May 30, 2017, 15:12
enjoy bro!
cheers!!
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Norman_Chan on May 30, 2017, 15:52
for all user's of XBOX ONE S,
u can now have Dolby Atmos working!!
Dolby has released a App on microsoft store called "Dolby Access"
jus install it n follow the instructions.
its a free app.
so now at last, it is a true 4k n dolby atmos player.
cheers!
 ;) :D ;D

Good info.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: htng on June 01, 2017, 12:10
Cash, how is the Xbox one S compared to Panasonic ub900 and oppo 203?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on June 01, 2017, 15:46
I don't have the panny.
I only have "3" XBOX ONE S, n "1" OPPO 203.
Each brand have their strengths n weaknesses...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on June 04, 2017, 00:28

Any bought the LG UP970?
http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1492518238
Comes with Dolby Vision.
https://www.whathifi.com/lg/up970/review


(http://www.flatpanelshd.com/pictures/lgup970handson-1.jpg)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: BozQ on June 04, 2017, 02:54
Apparently, the UP970 retail price is $599, and I think it will be Dolby Vision ready with a future firmware update.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: DJQ on June 04, 2017, 03:16
http://www.lg.com/sg/video-players/lg-UP970

how much iszit locally?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: BozQ on June 04, 2017, 16:54
http://www.lg.com/sg/video-players/lg-UP970

how much iszit locally?
I had a LG Promotional flyer, for TVs and soundbars. There is a package that includes the UP970, with a note "U.P. $599"

I'll try to take a picture later.
I did ask LG SG on Facebook, and the said this will go on sale this month.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: BozQ on June 05, 2017, 04:41
Here's a photo of the flyer. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170604/ad3e9a8dc069929768457723956a84d0.jpg)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: htng on June 05, 2017, 16:57
Wow! $599 price not bad sia.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on June 05, 2017, 17:13
Wow! $599 price not bad sia.
The price of the basic 4k players will only go down as greater adoption occurs.
But if you want better sound playback, video upscaling etc and other features, then expect to pay more.
Just like you can score a 200$ BR player now, you can't compare that to an Oppo, and not everyone needs an Oppo anyway.

I look forward to checking out the LG and see how well it does. It's good to see more, and perhaps more 4k titles in local shops at a good price.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: BozQ on June 06, 2017, 03:54
The few 4K titles in Poh Kim might be an exception than a rising trend. It's basically the three WB/DC superhero films and nothing else. I suspect Wonder Woman would be next.

Ironically enough, the Xbox One S is the cheapest 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray player sold in SG. It's not the best player around, but it works. 
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: htng on June 06, 2017, 08:26
Sidetrack a bit. If you order uhd disc from Amazon, do u get the bluray version as well?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: finclk on June 06, 2017, 09:27
Most UHD discs come with the standard bluray disc also.

From now onwards, i'm building up my library in UHD format if the price difference between the UHD and bluray format only differs by couple of dollars. You should too.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on June 06, 2017, 21:33
Most UHD titles have the BR disc for now.
But IIRC, Planet Earth II 4k from US doesn't have it.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: BozQ on June 06, 2017, 22:53
I thought BDA did not allow anyone to sell UHD BDs without a BD copy. But yes, most UHD BDs come with BD. And I've been purchasing my past few orders with 4K, even when I haven't got my 4K player yet. The difference is about US$5. The dilemma comes when a movie is released in 3D and 4K separately. I'd have a hard time picking one.

Sony is the best here. They have a 4K/3D/2D combo and the prices are great! I bought Angry Birds and Ghostbusters for only US$26 each!
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: htng on June 07, 2017, 18:05
Wonderful! Will do that. Only problem is if my panasonic uhd player is from U.K. and I order disc from US, I may face a problem
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: BozQ on June 07, 2017, 18:35
4K Blu-rays are region free.
It's the Blu-ray that comes with it that might be locked.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: htng on June 07, 2017, 21:22
Ya. I am worried about the bluray
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on June 07, 2017, 21:42
If you want something cheaper than the Panasonic and need Region A playback for BR discs, then you will need to wait for the LG.
Or buy the Panasonic for 4k playback and get a $200 BR player locally for local Region A discs.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: htng on June 08, 2017, 10:32
Any sightings on the Lg? Seems like this month will release
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: BozQ on June 08, 2017, 23:20
LG SG says it will release this month. But I haven't seen it yet.

But even if we have the player now, it's not Dolby Vision ready yet. It's still awaiting firmware update. So maybe LG SG is waiting for the update before putting it up for sale.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: teaport337 on June 09, 2017, 08:47
LG SG says it will release this month. But I haven't seen it yet.

But even if we have the player now, it's not Dolby Vision ready yet. It's still awaiting firmware update. So maybe LG SG is waiting for the update before putting it up for sale.


Oppo DV ready
http://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-udp-203/blu-ray-udp-203-Support.aspx



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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: htng on June 09, 2017, 12:20
Just checked with Lg, the uhd bluray player will launch around end June.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: BozQ on June 09, 2017, 20:25
http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=286113

Looks like there might be some delay with the Dolby Vision firmware. Somebody asked LG US about its ETA, but got an unconvincing response.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: htng on June 11, 2017, 08:15
Maybe by the time they launch, Sony X800 also here. I think officially Panasonic UHD900 won't come to SG.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on June 14, 2017, 16:17
Saw it at Target tonight.....looks good.

(http://audio.sg/pic/ubp-x800-01.jpg)

US$323 ($299.99 + CA sales tax)

(Audio)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on June 14, 2017, 16:59
Naise
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: htng on June 14, 2017, 19:07
Likely 120V. Can try ordering from Amazon UK la.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: treesmaker on June 15, 2017, 19:49
If you want something cheaper than the Panasonic and need Region A playback for BR discs, then you will need to wait for the LG.
Or buy the Panasonic for 4k playback and get a $200 BR player locally for local Region A discs.

Have you considered Microsoft Xbox One S? It comes with universal voltage, plays back UHD at 2160P and Bluray region is same as USA and Singapore. DVD playback is zone 1. I bought two units from Amazon and it both works out of the box, no transformers needed.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: BozQ on June 15, 2017, 23:25
Have you considered Microsoft Xbox One S? It comes with universal voltage, plays back UHD at 2160P and Bluray region is same as USA and Singapore. DVD playback is zone 1. I bought two units from Amazon and it both works out of the box, no transformers needed.
Just curious, why buy the Xbox One S from US when it's easily available locally?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on June 16, 2017, 22:04
According to AVS forum:
"You have to pay $15 to license Atmos on the Xbox One"
Is that true?


Hardly worth it if it's true..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on June 16, 2017, 23:43
I didn't have to pay for the Atmos for my xbox1s players....
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: dXter on June 17, 2017, 00:21
Atmos is free on PC and xbox. However atmos for headphones will have to be purchased
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: BozQ on June 17, 2017, 02:06
Dolby Atmos stream to home theaters is free. It's the Dolby Atmos for headphones that's for purchase. Costs about S$19+
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: chamay on June 19, 2017, 15:45
Have anyone bought the Sony UBP-X800 4k UHD bluray player from US amazon  and use step down transformer to use it

Currently it has a price drop of US$268 (before $299) add US$55 shipment fee and it cost about SG$460
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Tiktokape on June 19, 2017, 16:03
Have anyone bought the Sony UBP-X800 4k UHD bluray player from US amazon  and use step down transformer to use it

Currently it has a price drop of US$268 (before $299) add US$55 shipment fee and it cost about SG$460
I don't understand what you want to know.

If it is regarding step down transformer. You will find your answer by searching voltage via Customer Questions & Answers.

https://www.amazon.com/Sony-UBP-X800-Ultra-Blu-ray-Player/dp/B01N4RCPKO
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on June 19, 2017, 18:32
In the old days of Toshiba HD DVD players, many bros bought transformers and used the US players. No fuss.
Some bros might be still holding onto them.
Same issues of warranty and DVD coding apply.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: htng on June 19, 2017, 19:28
Have anyone bought the Sony UBP-X800 4k UHD bluray player from US amazon  and use step down transformer to use it

Currently it has a price drop of US$268 (before $299) add US$55 shipment fee and it cost about SG$460

Cannot get free shipping? Seems like shipping cost quite ex
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: chamay on June 19, 2017, 23:41
Cannot get free shipping? Seems like shipping cost quite ex

It was US$299 for quite some time. now a price drop of US$30.

Just check Sony asia page (Not sony SG) and it stated coming soon
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on June 19, 2017, 23:51
Has anyone tried to ship an item the size of a DVD player overseas?
Us$55 is a reasonable price.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: htng on June 21, 2017, 18:42
The U.K. deal for panasonic ub900 is great! If it can play our bluray, I would have given it a shot
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: htng on June 24, 2017, 21:05
Any review between Sony ub 800 vs Panasonic ub900?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on June 24, 2017, 21:27
I own the 3 players, Samsung, Panasonic and now the Sony.

Samsung and Panasonic do not respect anyone not using a HDR display....that's me, I am using VPL-VW1100ES and they spit at you.  Not Sony, it will connect and be polite about it.  Their HDR adjustable for non-HDR monitor / Projector speaks volume and you can actually see the picture quality of the picture while you select the adjustment.  Unlike the rest of the players, one slider does it all.

I think this is the best picture I obtained from any 4K picture because they took care of us.

(Audio)

Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: htng on June 24, 2017, 22:10
So I presume Sony is the chosen one?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: kikoman on June 27, 2017, 23:33
Using it now. Value for money.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: psychobilly on June 28, 2017, 12:59
So I presume Sony is the chosen one?

 Can the Sony be modded to play all region bluray?
Looking to get a used Oppo 203 or getting a Sony/LG/panny from amazon U.K.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: DJQ on June 28, 2017, 16:34
Using it now. Value for money.

hi bro, you got yours from amazon?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: htng on July 01, 2017, 12:22
I read panasonic can be modded using remote. Sony i think quite difficult
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: kikoman on July 04, 2017, 12:35
hi bro, you got yours from amazon?

Hand carry back from NYC Best Buy in Apr.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Bugger on July 04, 2017, 16:32
If from US, where can we get those step down transformers in Singapore.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: psychobilly on July 04, 2017, 16:34
If from US, where can we get those step down transformers in Singapore.

Lots selling at Sim Lim Tower
Pick a heavy duty one
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Bugger on July 04, 2017, 16:39
Thanks bro for the quick pointer.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: whitesox on July 04, 2017, 16:53

............
Samsung and Panasonic do not respect anyone not using a HDR display....that's me, I am using VPL-VW1100ES and they spit at you.  Not Sony, it will connect and be polite about it. 

I think this is the best picture I obtained from any 4K picture because they took care of us.

(Audio)

Bro,

SONY VPL-VW1100ES is excelent PJ.... but price wise is still out of my range (how much now huh?)
I wonder what version of HDMI cable can handle 4K, 60Hz, 4:2:0 for longer cable (10-15)m display out to
this kind of high end PJ  and also connect to 4K BDP? what version and what brand are you using bro Audio?

 ???
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: psychobilly on July 04, 2017, 18:07
Waaaa the Sony hts5000 is retailing for $2799
The Sony store mgr say can give me $2599 all in
Still to ex
Will wait for the Klipsch
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: htng on July 04, 2017, 20:40
Lots selling at Sim Lim Tower
Pick a heavy duty one

Is it bulky? I just checked and the LG up979 4k uhd player is here and retailing at $599. Still waiting for Sony X800
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on July 04, 2017, 21:32
Bro,

SONY VPL-VW1100ES is excelent PJ.... but price wise is still out of my range (how much now huh?)
I wonder what version of HDMI cable can handle 4K, 60Hz, 4:2:0 for longer cable (10-15)m display out to
this kind of high end PJ  and also connect to 4K BDP? what version and what brand are you using bro Audio?

 ???

This one....

(http://audio.sg/pic/fiberhdmi.jpg)

So good, I run 2 lengths to both HDMI socket at the projector.  It replaced the silver one I got, PQ is better and yet is 6 times cheaper.

(Audio)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: whitesox on July 05, 2017, 08:31
This one....

(http://audio.sg/pic/fiberhdmi.jpg)

So good, I run 2 lengths to both HDMI socket at the projector.  It replaced the silver one I got, PQ is better and yet is 6 times cheaper.

(Audio)

Thanks bro Audio for sharing an information on fiber HDMI cable?
Wah... you use 60 feet long cable huh.. that's so long (18m)... How much did you pay?

Is there any reason behind why ' I run 2 lengths to both HDMI socket at the projector....' ?
 :D
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: whitesox on July 05, 2017, 08:43
This one....

(http://audio.sg/pic/fiberhdmi.jpg)

So good, I run 2 lengths to both HDMI socket at the projector.  It replaced the silver one I got, PQ is better and yet is 6 times cheaper.

(Audio)

I found it.. there is some discusion on this cable bro...

http://www.avsforum.com/forum/168-hdmi-q-one-connector-world/1443933-celerity-optical-hdmi-cable.html
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: ben88 on July 05, 2017, 08:52
Thanks bro Audio for sharing an information on fiber HDMI cable?
Wah... you use 60 feet long cable huh.. that's so long (18m)... How much did you pay?

Is there any reason behind why ' I run 2 lengths to both HDMI socket at the projector....' ?
 :D
The reason of running two HDMI cable is just in case 1 fail, you still have another spare to plug in to your PJ, as it is troublesome to lay another cable if have false ceilling.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on July 05, 2017, 09:00
The reason is simple.  It outperforms any copper or silver HDMI I have used.  Plus the fact sometime, I experienced "re-negotiation" issue....sometimes black-out for a few sec..... but with fiber HDMI...it is perfect.

I use 2 lengths because there are 2 HDMI inputs on the projector.  Input "1" goes to the AV Processor, Input "2" goes directly to the HDMI output port of the main 4K UHD Blu Ray player.

Prices had came down.  I paid about US$300+ for one length 60ft fiber HDMI.....and I paid over SGD$2,000+ for my silver 15
 meters HDMI cable....it is really a "no-brainer" decision.

(Audio)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: htng on July 05, 2017, 10:04
I encountered those few secs blackout for normal hdmi cable. Will this fiber cable improve image quality?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: whitesox on July 05, 2017, 10:57
The reason is simple.  It outperforms any copper or silver HDMI I have used.  Plus the fact sometime, I experienced "re-negotiation" issue....sometimes black-out for a few sec..... but with fiber HDMI...it is perfect.

(Audio)

As we know heavy hdmi cable will 'pull' down due to gravity then the connection between head and port of hdmi
will become shaky especially if you hang your PJ (tendency will be higher)
so when single/dual subs kicks in... vibrating happened...
Once shaky then it will give íntermittent connection therefore you had sometimes black-out for a few sec issue.

(http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o581/A-hok/hdmilock_1_zps8d7xwtfa.jpg) (http://s1149.photobucket.com/user/A-hok/media/hdmilock_1_zps8d7xwtfa.jpg.html)

Will hdmi lock help? use at both ends
 :)

or sometimes black-out for a few sec issue might be due to cheapo hdmi cable with 'high speed with ethernet" mark huh? 
 ???
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: whitesox on July 05, 2017, 11:22
I encountered those few secs blackout for normal hdmi cable. Will this fiber cable improve image quality?

Did you watch 1080p/24 (10bit) or 4k/60hz bro?
What is your PJ brand and cable brand (what version)? how long have you been using it and what is the length?

I prefer use ACTIVE HDMI cable for longer length less than 15m (get branded cable such as QED, CHORD, Wireworld for guaranteed in Quality )

Read from forum about fiber hdmi:
The cable transmits bits in the form of an electrical signal. Change the bits and you get garbage, not washed out colors. The only way to get a uniform washed out color set would be either to 1) convert to analog (don't think the cable can do this) and modify the voltages and then convert back to digital or 2) have a digital processor work on each pixel value and lower the appropriate color bits (don't think there is any processor in the cable that can do this).

Because of twice convertion process therefore I prefer active HDMI (copper/silver) cable

Hopefully other brothers may want to share more opinions on this
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on July 05, 2017, 13:20
Sony UBP-X800 costs AUS$ 399 in stores there now.
Region free for UHD.


Region B for BR discs, in case someone needs that info.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on July 05, 2017, 13:46
Region free for UHD
Isn't it region free for all UHD discs releases?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on July 05, 2017, 14:20
Isn't it region free for all UHD discs releases?
Yes, but someone will ask...;)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on July 05, 2017, 14:28
Sometime, the HDMI renegotiation issue can be due to interference and that is where the optic fiber come in.....the optical beam cannot be impacted by electrical interference.

My SGD$2K+ HDMI cable is a cheapo cable?  I bought my HDMI cable from authorised Singapore dealer, amongst the 3 brands you recommended.  LOL.

(Audio)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: whitesox on July 05, 2017, 14:52
Sometime, the HDMI renegotiation issue can be due to interference and that is where the optic fiber come in.....the optical beam cannot be impacted by electrical interference.

My SGD$2K+ HDMI cable is a cheapo cable?  I bought my HDMI cable from authorised Singapore dealer, amongst the 3 brands you recommended.  LOL.

(Audio)

oh.. no
What I meant, I was referring to those 'no brand' cable but with 'high speed with ethernet' marked there which could coz renegotiation.
Definitely is not your cable lar coz I know you have high end taste.. remember this .... SONY VPL-VW1100ES...  ;)
 
so sorry hor bro ... ;D LOL

What BD player are you using in order to partner your PJ ?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on July 05, 2017, 15:09

What BD player are you using in order to partner your PJ ?

I don't know....the Samsung and the Panasonic looks less exciting.....the Sony X-800 seems to optimise the picture for non-HDR display, like my projector.  The picture looks good but if you want to find fault with it, then it could be a little "bright" after the HDR adjustment down to "1- narrow".

Sony looks cheap because it lacks a frontal display as compared to the Samsung and Panasonic....but it seems to be my reference player now.

(Audio)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: htng on July 05, 2017, 17:00
The panasonic ub 900 seems to be a great buy for $700. Quite strange now Amazon don't sell the Sony x800 anymore. I guess Asia or SG may have this unit soon.

Lg just launch theirs for $599 rrp
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on July 05, 2017, 17:18
Apparently LG just released the Dolby Vision compatible UHD player but they say it sounds noisy.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: htng on July 05, 2017, 22:31
Sounds noisy? Disc spinning noise?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: extinguisher on July 14, 2017, 13:49
What are the uhd players available at retail stores locally? Seems like most are not available. Only saw lg up970 n samsung ubdm9500 at BEST. Any other choices?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: BozQ on July 14, 2017, 14:06
What are the uhd players available at retail stores locally? Seems like most are not available. Only saw lg up970 n samsung ubdm9500 at BEST. Any other choices?
I've only seen the Samsung UBDK8500 in BEST stores. Which branch did you see the LG UP970?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: htng on July 14, 2017, 16:53
LG970 just came to almost every store. Even Harvey Norman. In US, Lg and Sony are priced the same. In SG, I guess Sony will be priced at $699-799. LG is currently $599
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: extinguisher on July 14, 2017, 19:14
I've only seen the Samsung UBDK8500 in BEST stores. Which branch did you see the LG UP970?
Saw at bedok mall branch
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: DJQ on July 17, 2017, 01:27
will a X800 set bought from Japan have universal power? go thru the specs did not see whether it is a 115V or 230V AC power.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: BozQ on July 17, 2017, 02:18
Saw at bedok mall branch
Thanks. This model is supposed to support Dolby Vision, but I think the firmware is still not released yet.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on July 17, 2017, 07:27
will a X800 set bought from Japan have universal power? go thru the specs did not see whether it is a 115V or 230V AC power.
Unless you bought it from a store that specifically states so, no..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: htng on July 17, 2017, 10:17
Jap is 120VAC. Seriously it doesn't matter. Just get a small AV convertor. Can easily do it
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on July 17, 2017, 14:05
Correction, Jap voltage is 100VAC.

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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: htng on July 17, 2017, 20:38
Thanks for your correction, Audio
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Norman_Chan on July 19, 2017, 15:05
Is the Samsung UBD-M8500 , cheapest in the market ? Amazon price it at about US$219

http://www.samsung.com/us/televisions-home-theater/home-theater/blu-ray-dvd-players/ubd-m8500-4k-ultra-hd-blu-ray-player-ubd-m8500-za/

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072F9T5MR/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: htng on July 20, 2017, 10:05
Yes. I think Samsung is the cheapest. I am told Panasonic and Sony are both the best
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: DJQ on July 20, 2017, 10:35
i go for the best.  ;D
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on July 20, 2017, 11:02
i go for the best.  ;D
+1
Why play 4k with the cheapest gear?
Get at least a decent one, to enjoy the best picture. And it can be used as a transport for CDs too, cheers.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Norman_Chan on July 20, 2017, 17:29
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N4RCPKO/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_5?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Sony UBP-X800 at US$268....
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: htng on July 20, 2017, 20:39
+1
Why play 4k with the cheapest gear?
Get at least a decent one, to enjoy the best picture. And it can be used as a transport for CDs too, cheers.

For both cd and uhd, will panasonic perform better than Sony?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: htng on July 20, 2017, 20:40
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N4RCPKO/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_5?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Sony UBP-X800 at US$268....

This price is a no brainer. I still hope I can get a local Sony unit. Keep my finger cross
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: htng on July 25, 2017, 19:54
Sad news for bros waiting for Sony UB-X800. Following message from Sony when I wrote to them

Thank you for your interest in the UBP-X800! Unfortunately, we will not be bringing this model in to SG. Thank you and have a good week ahead.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: DJQ on July 26, 2017, 01:58
then gotta settle for LG UP970 or Xbox 1S

http://www.lg.com/sg/video-players/lg-UP970

http://www.xbox.com/en-SG/xbox-one-s?xr=shellnav
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: BozQ on July 26, 2017, 02:00
If you want to future proof your purchase, the LG UP970 will have a firmware update to support Dolby Vision soon. By end of August.

The Xbox One S, well, it's a decent UHD BD player, and it plays Xbox One games too. So...why not?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: DJQ on July 26, 2017, 02:04
(https://cnet3.cbsistatic.com/img/OqjL8GVh3M09mKqotQd6_mrHbkQ=/fit-in/970x0/2016/07/29/5069de1e-6554-4484-96f7-a267ea6979c4/xbox-one-s-17.jpg)
xbox1S looks more sturdy...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: BozQ on July 26, 2017, 04:01
Is that the original Xbox One?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on July 26, 2017, 07:33
The BR scene took quite some time to take off locally when it was introduced. Many bros imported players from USA and elsewhere.
So the 4k scene will also take some time to move on. The choices will naturally be limited for now.
That's the price of being an early adopter.
Just ask the average consumer, they may still be watching DVDs! Even if they own the latest 4k TV. Some will be using youtube snippets etc...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Norman_Chan on July 27, 2017, 17:19
Amazon pricing...just for info....

LG Electronics UP970 4K Ultra-HD Blu-ray Player with HDR Compatibility (2017 Model) - USD246.99

Sony UBP-X800 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray Player (2017 Model) - USD268

Samsung UBD-M8500/ZA Blu-Ray Player (2017) - USD204.72
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on July 27, 2017, 17:30
BTW, anyone interested in a mini MO of 4k cables?
I am thinking of ordering some of these:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01GCGKK82/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

If there's enough interest, I will do a small one.. this is not meant for profit, just sharing..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: semajm85 on July 30, 2017, 23:02
BTW, anyone interested in a mini MO of 4k cables?
I am thinking of ordering some of these:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01GCGKK82/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

If there's enough interest, I will do a small one.. this is not meant for profit, just sharing..
I'm using these now. Works well with 4k output from my shield TV running plex and Netflix in 4k

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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Ccyao on July 30, 2017, 23:22
BTW, anyone interested in a mini MO of 4k cables?
I am thinking of ordering some of these:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01GCGKK82/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

If there's enough interest, I will do a small one.. this is not meant for profit, just sharing..

Hi Bro,
I'm keen to get 2 if the MO is on.

Thanks


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on July 30, 2017, 23:36
Hi Bro,
I'm keen to get 2 if the MO is on.

Thanks


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Sent you a reply, cheers.
I think a small order together will work for both of us, cheers :)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Norman_Chan on July 30, 2017, 23:50
Wow... the Samsung UBD-M8500/ZA Blu-Ray Player (2017) - USD204.72 drop to UD$186.86 in Amazon....
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: landis1 on August 01, 2017, 11:36
if anyone is interested and has not gotten his 4k player, here is your chance. mustafa is selling the samsung ubd-k8500 at s$539 but with s$200 robinson vouchers. good deal if you are asking me ;D

(https://cnet1.cbsistatic.com/img/5P0ajMNsJ7xY6OeFLPxQq0I6sew=/770x433/2016/02/11/739992e2-13d4-4186-9dd4-11f0ca679eb4/samsung-ubd-k8500-02.jpg)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: debadgedA6 on August 01, 2017, 12:55
Very good deal. And don't have to use transformer!
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Ccyao on August 01, 2017, 12:58
Anyone know if this is region free? My current Samsung bluray player can't play Disney WOW. I brought the disc to Best. They tested it on Philips BluRay player without any problem.


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on August 01, 2017, 13:23
Right now, there are no region free players for BR discs available off the rack in SG.
There are codes, hacks and mods, but these are not something you can walk into Best Denki or something like that to obtain.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Ccyao on August 01, 2017, 13:34
The guys from Best Denki told me Philips and Samsung are modified to region free before they sell. Not sure how true is it. But he did prove to me that my Disney WOW disc is playable on the Philips player.


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on August 01, 2017, 14:55
The guys from Best Denki told me Philips and Samsung are modified to region free before they sell. Not sure how true is it. But he did prove to me that my Disney WOW disc is playable on the Philips player.
Most of the BluRay players are remote hacked to multiregion to play DVD only. NOT BD, as far as i know.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: sigurros on August 01, 2017, 15:18
The guys from Best Denki told me Philips and Samsung are modified to region free before they sell. Not sure how true is it. But he did prove to me that my Disney WOW disc is playable on the Philips player.


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Try eBay.

Bought a Sony s1500 just for the bd region free.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on August 01, 2017, 17:17
The guys from Best Denki told me Philips and Samsung are modified to region free before they sell. Not sure how true is it. But he did prove to me that my Disney WOW disc is playable on the Philips player.


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Get him to commit to writing on this region free BLU RAY playback bro.. not DVD
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Ccyao on August 01, 2017, 20:25
Don't think they dare to make it official Bro


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: landis1 on August 03, 2017, 12:17
great. let me try if it is region free ;D
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Ccyao on August 03, 2017, 12:23
Let me know. If region free I also go and buy.


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: dsj88 on August 10, 2017, 12:18
Finally took the plunge and bought the Panasonic DMP-UB900 here in Sydney for A$456 to match my UHD Samsung TV. I have pure HDMI silver cables which is about 5 years old. How do I know that it will support 4K? Thanks
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: allfor4k on August 10, 2017, 20:30
My understanding is as long as your HDMI cable is of 'High Speed' or version 2.0 you are good to go for 4K TV and UHD blu-ray player.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: chamay on August 14, 2017, 13:45
The sony UBP-x800 has a price drop to US$245 and shipping cost reduced from US$50 to US$31 at amazon.
Cost is about SG$380. Downside is no international warranty and u need a stepdown transformer

Previously 1 month ago. It was US$269 with a US$50 shipping fee.

 
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: landis1 on August 15, 2017, 12:15
the philips bdp7501 4k ultra hd bluray player with wifi is currently going for only us$138. grab it while stocks last and when the usd is at hovering a low 1.36 ;D

https://www.amazon.com/Philips-BDP7501-Ultra-Blu-Ray-Player/dp/B01FWKIGFS?psc=1&SubscriptionId=AKIAJ7T5BOVUVRD2EFYQ&tag=cameltopdrops-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B01FWKIGFS

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71WES4lANGL._SL1500_.jpg)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: teaport337 on August 15, 2017, 15:59
The sony UBP-x800 has a price drop to US$245 and shipping cost reduced from US$50 to US$31 at amazon.
Cost is about SG$380. Downside is no international warranty and u need a stepdown transformer

Previously 1 month ago. It was US$269 with a US$50 shipping fee.

Hi Channy, guys,

Any recommendations of step down transformers to get in Singapore and its price range. Have been wanting a player. Sony seems to be my choice. Budget around there. Really feel like taking the dive and click "order" from Amazon US. 🤣

Thanks, teaport.


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on August 15, 2017, 16:14
Just go down any DIY ship, like Handy-Fix , there are step down transformers available.

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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on August 15, 2017, 19:56
the philips bdp7501 4k ultra hd bluray player with wifi is currently going for only us$138. grab it while stocks last and when the usd is at hovering a low 1.36 ;D

https://www.amazon.com/Philips-BDP7501-Ultra-Blu-Ray-Player/dp/B01FWKIGFS?psc=1&SubscriptionId=AKIAJ7T5BOVUVRD2EFYQ&tag=cameltopdrops-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B01FWKIGFS (https://www.amazon.com/Philips-BDP7501-Ultra-Blu-Ray-Player/dp/B01FWKIGFS?psc=1&SubscriptionId=AKIAJ7T5BOVUVRD2EFYQ&tag=cameltopdrops-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B01FWKIGFS)

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71WES4lANGL._SL1500_.jpg)
EDIT:
Seems that this Phillips does Not have a universal voltage.. :(


(http://i63.tinypic.com/ang0lz.jpg)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: landis1 on August 15, 2017, 20:25
unfortunately it is 120v but the step down transformer is less than s$20 readily available at your local hardware store. so for less than s$200 in total you get yourself a 4k bluray player that is universally known to be better than the samsung ubd-k8500. what a bargain, dont you think ;D

(http://image.made-in-china.com/43f34j00lFHQbSshMWkA/12W-Adjustable-Voltage-Power-Adapter.jpg)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: landis1 on August 16, 2017, 11:57
while i am still waiting for my shipment to arrived, price has dropped yet again to us$133. so enticing for a 4k player and with free shipping ;D
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: sigurros on August 16, 2017, 13:30
while i am still waiting for my shipment to arrived, price has dropped yet again to us$133. so enticing for a 4k player and with free shipping ;D

Just checked out.

less than SGD200.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: cstanxpl on August 16, 2017, 14:08
There is also a switching power adaptor for the BDP7501 sold by 3rd party but shipping is more ex than the item itself.

https://www.amazon.com/UpBright-Adapter-Philips-N1070UH-Switching/dp/B01KZGWZYC/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1502863596&sr=1-1&keywords=n1070uh
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: landis1 on August 16, 2017, 15:19
There is also a switching power adaptor for the BDP7501 sold by 3rd party but shipping is more ex than the item itself.

https://www.amazon.com/UpBright-Adapter-Philips-N1070UH-Switching/dp/B01KZGWZYC/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1502863596&sr=1-1&keywords=n1070uh

unfortunately it is 120v but the step down transformer is less than s$20 readily available at your local hardware store. so for less than s$200 in total you get yourself a 4k bluray player that is universally known to be better than the samsung ubd-k8500. what a bargain, dont you think ;D

(http://image.made-in-china.com/43f34j00lFHQbSshMWkA/12W-Adjustable-Voltage-Power-Adapter.jpg)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Tiktokape on August 16, 2017, 15:27
The power adaptor can be bought in Sim Lim Tower, quite a common one. I carted out too. No brainer.

The reason I ordered is because it can do Netflix

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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: landis1 on August 16, 2017, 15:35
no brainer exactly ;D

(http://i.imgur.com/gljUcX7.jpg)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: cstanxpl on August 16, 2017, 15:46
no brainer exactly ;D

(http://i.imgur.com/gljUcX7.jpg)


If your shipment had not been shipped, you can cancel and re-order again to get the lower price for the Philips. But if other items price went up then no point.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: ptey on August 16, 2017, 20:44
no brainer exactly ;D

(http://i.imgur.com/gljUcX7.jpg)

If your shipment had not been shipped, you can cancel and re-order again to get the lower price for the Philips. But if other items price went up then no point.
No need cancel order to get cheaper price as you can contact Amazon to ask for reduced price, I have done it before. They are more than happy to give you the reduced price.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: edwin643 on August 17, 2017, 00:21
It's US150.37 for BDP7501 now with free shipping.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Norman_Chan on August 17, 2017, 00:59
http://home-fix.com/estore/home-fix-brands/m-s/soundteoh/soundteoh-fc-60-ac-ac-converter-60w.html#.WZR5q00UmUk

Get one of this Step-Down adapter will do. Easily can get from Challenger stores.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: htng on August 17, 2017, 17:50
Just ordered the Sony UB800. Waiting for it to come, hehe
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: landis1 on August 18, 2017, 09:02
It's US150.37 for BDP7501 now with free shipping.

yes i suspect many of us proceeded to check out the player which alerted amazon to raise the price but still it does not matter as it is by our local standards, still cheap ;D
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: htng on August 18, 2017, 17:07
How is planet earth II? Good disc?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: landis1 on August 18, 2017, 17:16
How is planet earth II? Good disc?

4K     (http://images4.static-bluray.com/rating/b10.jpg) 5.0
Video (http://images4.static-bluray.com/rating/b10.jpg) 5.0
Audio (http://images4.static-bluray.com/rating/b10.jpg) 4.8

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Planet-Earth-II-4K-Blu-ray/168607/

Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: htng on August 19, 2017, 09:56
Sony ub x800 is a great buy at US$270+. From what I understand, Sony is using AC to D.C. Adapter so I presume we can just buy a new adapter from Sony instead of getting the transformer since the input is D.C. Voltage
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: teaport337 on August 19, 2017, 09:59
Sony ub x800 is a great buy at US$270+. From what I understand, Sony is using AC to D.C. Adapter so I presume we can just buy a new adapter from Sony instead of getting the transformer since the input is D.C. Voltage

Hi HT,

Really? that'd be great if Sony does. Else need to get one from Home-fix. Just ordered from Amazon US. Can't wait. Hehe.


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: eagle15 on August 19, 2017, 10:07
Philips launched the 7502 that supports DV via a firmware update release later on. $219 on Amazon.

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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Ccyao on August 19, 2017, 10:46
A silly question. If we order from Amazon US means we can't watch the bluray and DVD disc that we purchased locally right?
So you guys have another bluray player for local disc? Or you purchased all your BluRay and DVD disc from US as well?


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: bluepill193 on August 19, 2017, 10:49
Local blurays are in same region as US
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Ccyao on August 19, 2017, 10:50
Thanks! Good to know that cos I'm also contemplating to order one from Amazon after reading all the bros doing it.


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: cstanxpl on August 19, 2017, 12:07
Ordered one X800 from UK instead as I needed one that plays region B blu-rays. Just hope it will be able to support dolby vision in the future (unless hardware limitation).
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: cstanxpl on August 19, 2017, 12:16
Sony ub x800 is a great buy at US$270+. From what I understand, Sony is using AC to D.C. Adapter so I presume we can just buy a new adapter from Sony instead of getting the transformer since the input is D.C. Voltage

From the internet images it look like a fixed power cord leh.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: cstanxpl on August 19, 2017, 12:21
A silly question. If we order from Amazon US means we can't watch the bluray and DVD disc that we purchased locally right?
So you guys have another bluray player for local disc? Or you purchased all your BluRay and DVD disc from US as well?




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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: htng on August 19, 2017, 12:31
Ordered one X800 from UK instead as I needed one that plays region B blu-rays. Just hope it will be able to support dolby vision in the future (unless hardware limitation).

If I need a U.K. Player, I would buy panasonic ub 900 instead. If u buy Sony ub 800 from US, u pay $380. If you buy from U.K., you pay close to $600. Not worth since both are same players
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: cstanxpl on August 19, 2017, 13:47
If I need a U.K. Player, I would buy panasonic ub 900 instead. If u buy Sony ub 800 from US, u pay $380. If you buy from U.K., you pay close to $600. Not worth since both are same players
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If I need a U.K. Player, I would buy panasonic ub 900 instead. If u buy Sony ub 800 from US, u pay $380. If you buy from U.K., you pay close to $600. Not worth since both are same players

Ya, thought about that. But i will still need to get a region B blu-ray pkayer if i get the x800 from US. That will add another S$100 odd to the US pricing. The UK unit cost about S$450 excluding delivery. I guess the convenience is worth it for me.

The pana 900 is better than the x800?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: htng on August 19, 2017, 14:43
Both Sony and panasonic are on par in terms of performance based on what I have read. However, the panasonic player used to cost $1200 (which I believe some bros here owned it) as compared to the current price of $680.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: cstanxpl on August 19, 2017, 18:58
OK noted.

Just double confimed, the UK price should be about S$480 excluding delivery.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: htng on August 19, 2017, 19:31
Just checked both

US version of x800 - $400
U.K. Version of x800 - $570

That is what I get when I checkout both
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: cstanxpl on August 19, 2017, 21:00
U.K. Version of x800 - $570

You got deduct the VAT of 20%?

After deduction is £256.83.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: htng on August 19, 2017, 23:01
You try check out both and see the price.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: cstanxpl on August 20, 2017, 09:40
You try check out both and see the price.

Oh, you include the delivery charges.

For me, difference will be around S$150. Almost the cost of a region B player.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: htng on August 20, 2017, 10:39
You have a lot of region B disc?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Wilber on August 20, 2017, 11:09
would like to share to those bros who bought Philips BDP7501, you don't have to get bulky transformer to play it.
if you notice it is a 12 volt in.. so, get yourself 120-240v power supply 12v 2A output will do.
i suggest get 3A for in case 2A not enough juice
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Tiktokape on August 20, 2017, 11:14
would like to share to those bros who bought Philips BDP7501, you don't have to get bulky transformer to play it.
if you notice it is a 12 volt in.. so, get yourself 120-240v power supply 12v 2A output will do.
i suggest get 3A for in case 2A not enough juice
That's what I shared earlier as well. The key is not the SMPS, it is the dc plug and dc inlet - are they of the common 2.1/2.5mm size?


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: cstanxpl on August 20, 2017, 11:24
You have a lot of region B disc?

About 20 to 30 titles I guess. Excluding those region free ones. Bought them together with other stuffs through the years. Some not available at such low price from US
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on August 20, 2017, 12:27
yup, i also have quite a big stash of Region B blurays.
from UK n Australia...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on August 20, 2017, 12:36
So how's the quality of the Philips ?
Is it just cheap or is it cheap and a giant killer?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: cstanxpl on August 20, 2017, 13:22
Another player to look forward to

https://www.whathifi.com/news/cambridge-unveils-4k-uhd-blu-ray-player

But no built in DAC.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on August 20, 2017, 13:44
Cambridge CXUHD..
its a copycat of the oppo 203 once again...
hehehehe!!
 ;D
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on August 20, 2017, 13:45
Only thing missing is the DAC + the 7.1/5.1 analog outputs...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Wilber on August 20, 2017, 15:10
That's what I shared earlier as well. The key is not the SMPS, it is the dc plug and dc inlet - are they of the common 2.1/2.5mm size?


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it is.. or if you want 100% assurance.. buy newbright dc power supply for the player from amazon itself. another $20USD
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: landis1 on August 20, 2017, 16:21
would like to share to those bros who bought Philips BDP7501, you don't have to get bulky transformer to play it.
if you notice it is a 12 volt in.. so, get yourself 120-240v power supply 12v 2A output will do.
i suggest get 3A for in case 2A not enough juice

That's what I shared earlier as well. The key is not the SMPS, it is the dc plug and dc inlet - are they of the common 2.1/2.5mm size?

(http://image.made-in-china.com/43f34j00lFHQbSshMWkA/12W-Adjustable-Voltage-Power-Adapter.jpg)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: askarmelayu on August 21, 2017, 20:13
Is it possible to change the US power supply of the player to a Local power supply, to avoid using a transformer?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: alamakazam on August 21, 2017, 20:32
Is it possible to change the US power supply of the player to a Local power supply, to avoid using a transformer?

dont bother doing that.... waste time only

unless the player is like oppo players, inside got 1 nice transformer u can replace easily

Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: landis1 on August 21, 2017, 21:35
Is it possible to change the US power supply of the player to a Local power supply, to avoid using a transformer?

i think not possible at all ;D
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Tiktokape on August 21, 2017, 23:26
Not worth the trouble to do so, not cheap either. It is possible, Sound Affairs can do it.


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: eggz on August 22, 2017, 09:40
Any idea when the Philips BDP7502 will be available locally? Seems like decent inexpensive player that'll support Dolby Vision.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: htng on August 22, 2017, 16:06
I doubt wont come also. Seems like the local market is a bit small. Apparently only the Koreans are here formally. The rest are through distributors.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: eggz on August 23, 2017, 15:25
I doubt wont come also. Seems like the local market is a bit small. Apparently only the Koreans are here formally. The rest are through distributors.

In that case, looks like only hope for a lower cost DV supported UHD bluray player is the LG UP970
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: htng on August 24, 2017, 06:55
LG 970 is another option. You also must have a DV tv. Do we need DV content? My tv don't support DV but only HDR 10 hence don't really care now. I am looking at a 3 year horizon. Currently the limitation is still uhd disc. Limited content also. Interestingly, I stream a lot of content using Netflix
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Ccyao on August 24, 2017, 06:59
May I know what is DV?


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on August 24, 2017, 07:21
"D"olby "V"ision
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Ccyao on August 24, 2017, 07:26
Oh ic ic. Thanks CASH!


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on August 24, 2017, 07:46
 ;)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Norman_Chan on August 25, 2017, 14:50
Think now Challenger is having promotion sales for the Xbox One about S$380+ (500 gb version) till 31st Aug 2017...is the internal storage capacity important ? The 1 tb version is still S$400++ promotion ,lower than the original price of S$499.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: BozQ on August 25, 2017, 15:14
Think now Challenger is having promotion sales for the Xbox One about S$380+ (500 gb version) till 31st Aug 2017...is the internal storage capacity important ? The 1 tb version is still S$400++ promotion ,lower than the original price of S$499.
It's a Microsoft sales, not just Challenger.
$389 is a very good deal for a games console and a decent 4K Blu-ray player.

I do most of my gaming on my PS4, but Xbox One games require installation, and it range from 30 to 50GB per game. But if you are not going to play much, then 500GB is sufficient.

Oh and the promo ends 30 August, I think. So if you want, act fast!
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on August 25, 2017, 15:40
I attach a external HDD to my 500gb Xbox1s..
it's a 2.5inch 1tb HDD...
it makes no difference about the internal storage.
jus weather u can stand the eyesore of another piece of hardware on top of the xbox1s.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: htng on August 26, 2017, 12:09
Walk around Sim Lim tower today and do some market research. Cheapest step down transformer available at ASK electronic level 1

1. 70W version - $10.90 (don't feel so robust and not available in other place)
2. 120W version - $30 (a lot of shops recommended but most selling $35-45. Very robust)
3. 200W/ 300W/ 500W - cheapest but I think overkill

I bought 120W version. The guy still very nice to power on and test for me.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: landis1 on August 30, 2017, 21:29
Walk around Sim Lim tower today and do some market research. Cheapest step down transformer available at ASK electronic level 1

1. 70W version - $10.90 (don't feel so robust and not available in other place)
2. 120W version - $30 (a lot of shops recommended but most selling $35-45. Very robust)
3. 200W/ 300W/ 500W - cheapest but I think overkill

I bought 120W version. The guy still very nice to power on and test for me.

i am assuming that you are looking for one for the philips 4k player. just managed to get it to work with a laptop power adapter with specifications of 12V, 4.74A (or at least 2.2A) with a  5.5mm OD/2.5 mm ID connector head. the power adapter is readily available at any laptop shop in sim lim square or sim lim tower for less than $20 ;D 

i am pleased to say that this player seems to work much better than my other players. i am glad i bought a few while the price is low ;D

(http://www.mega.pk/items_images/6184pl268667-hp_laptop_adaptor_laptop_power_supply_18_5v_6_5a_for_hp_dc924a_dg956a.jpg)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Ccyao on August 30, 2017, 21:39
You mean you bought a few Philips 7501 players? Can share how is this much better than your other players? Sourcing for a player as well.


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: landis1 on August 30, 2017, 21:52
the startup to play is quite fast. it plays all my titles so far without any problems. and unlike my samsung ubd-k8500 which has the occasional disconnection, the philips has absolutely no problems connecting to the various brands of 4k tv
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Ccyao on August 30, 2017, 21:55
May I know how is the picture quality compared with ubd-k8500? Actually, I'm deciding between 7501 and X800.


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: landis1 on August 30, 2017, 21:57
even with the lg oled i cant even tell the difference between the players if any ;D
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Ccyao on August 30, 2017, 22:00
Nice! I just need a basic player with good PQ. Looks like this fits the bill. But I'm a bit late. Noticed the price went up around USD20.


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: landis1 on August 30, 2017, 22:03
dont want to dampen your spirits but as always your experience may be different ;D
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: htng on August 30, 2017, 22:04
I just received my Sony x-800. It is awesome! The player is quite heavy and is built quite robust. Pic quality is awesome!
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: teaport337 on August 30, 2017, 22:11
I just received my Sony x-800. It is awesome! The player is quite heavy and is built quite robust. Pic quality is awesome!

Hi HT,

Same here. Like my new Sony 4k player. Haha.
Question. Why is our streaming apps are so few? Just Netflix.

Couldn't figure out to get more installed. Software updated to the latest.


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: teaport337 on August 30, 2017, 22:15
Hi HT,

Same here. Love my new Sony 4k player. Haha.
Question. Why is our streaming apps so few? Just Netflix.

Couldn't figure out to get more installed. Software updated to the latest.


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: htng on August 30, 2017, 23:22
I think US may have more apps. SG limited apps. Have u compared uhd vs 4k?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Ccyao on August 31, 2017, 08:53
One night of sleep and woke up to see the price of Philips 7501 has shot up another USD20 to USD173!!
Good thing Sony X800 has also dropped to USD229. Given the narrowed gap, I'm now leaning towards the X800.
Just wondering if the power is fixed to the player, how do I use it with the transformer?
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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on August 31, 2017, 12:56
if the powercord is fixed, then u can get this kind of power transformer...

(https://s26.postimg.org/aaarngd3d/IMG20170823120009.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/y1a55kdad/)

(https://s26.postimg.org/6ryrr2c7d/IMG20170823120037.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/nshnzqp8l/)

(https://s26.postimg.org/5e74vrcy1/IMG20170823120109.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/fbi5otkjp/)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Ccyao on August 31, 2017, 12:57
OMG. Then it's a no go for me.


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: htng on August 31, 2017, 13:02
USD229 is an awesome price for X800. Rated 5 star by what hifi.

https://www.whathifi.com/sony/ubp-x800/review
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Ccyao on August 31, 2017, 13:05
Ya. I think so too. Unfortunately, I would need a gigantic transformer to go with that...


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on August 31, 2017, 13:19
its not that big...
see the regular "Newstar" plastic casing transformer vs the metal "Fransuz" transformer?

(https://s26.postimg.org/gyjmujkg9/IMG20170831131455.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/a835l3xad/)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: kelccm on August 31, 2017, 13:32
It's a Microsoft sales, not just Challenger.
$389 is a very good deal for a games console and a decent 4K Blu-ray player.

I do most of my gaming on my PS4, but Xbox One games require installation, and it range from 30 to 50GB per game. But if you are not going to play much, then 500GB is sufficient.

Oh and the promo ends 30 August, I think. So if you want, act fast!

Comex have new offers for the XBox One S. $339 for 500GB & $379 for 1TB.

(http://images.hardwarezone.com/gallery/thumbs/1/sg/2017/comex/ms-comex2017-xbox-fa.jpg)
http://www.hardwarezone.com.sg/comex/view_brochure/14864/#.WaedbrIjH6Q (http://www.hardwarezone.com.sg/comex/view_brochure/14864/#.WaedbrIjH6Q)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: cstanxpl on August 31, 2017, 13:40
Ya. I think so too. Unfortunately, I would need a gigantic transformer to go with that...
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If you do not mind paying like S$120 to S$150 more and have a regular Blu-ray player to play your region A Blu-ray discs and code 1/3 DVDs, you can get the X800 from UK.

At least you no need a transformer. But up to you to feel if the extra $$$ spent is worth it or not.

You do not need the transformer.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on August 31, 2017, 13:44
If you do not mind paying like S$120 to S$150 more and have a regular Blu-ray player to play your region A Blu-ray discs and code 1/3 DVDs, you can get the X800 from UK.

At least you no need a transformer. But up to you to feel if the extra $$$ spent is worth it or not.

You do not need the transformer.

if i am not wrong, if u get the sony from UK or Australia, the bluray region is "B".
not "A" region..
United States n Singapore is Region "A" for blurays.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on August 31, 2017, 13:46
UHD 4K discs have no region coding..
thats the only thing u can play in any UHD player from any country, with no worries.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: kelccm on August 31, 2017, 14:14
Saw on Amazon UK there is a multi region/zone X800 for 499 pounds. I supposed its modified. If you are willing to pay for it, I guess no more worries about transformer or which zone your discs come from.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sony-UBP-X800-CEK-MULTIREGION-Blu-ray-Player/dp/B06XSM9RQF/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1504159284&sr=8-2&keywords=sony+x800 (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sony-UBP-X800-CEK-MULTIREGION-Blu-ray-Player/dp/B06XSM9RQF/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1504159284&sr=8-2&keywords=sony+x800)

Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on August 31, 2017, 14:22
There are cheap region free players you can buy, if you do have some other region discs...
But the UK option is nice - gives you a transformer option if the Philips doesn't suit..

Or pay more for a local Oppo, that acts as a disc transport for your CDs too.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: htng on August 31, 2017, 18:41
I don't see what is the problem with step down transformers. The smallest one is about 70W and it is as small as a travel adapter. The one cash shows is more heavy duty and probably can use up to 300W.

I bought one and can easily fit inside tv console. Alternatively can pay $200 to get the U.K. version
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Ccyao on August 31, 2017, 18:45
Bro can share what transformer are you using for your x800?


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on August 31, 2017, 22:00
the black metal Fransuz transformer can power up till 500Watts...

the yellow plastic Newstar transformer can power up till 100Watts..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: htng on August 31, 2017, 23:21
For me I am using 120W step down transformer.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: jdc115 on September 01, 2017, 04:18
I think I have 3 or 4 of these but only need 1 of them now. I will check the specs when I get back to SG next week and can list if anybody is interested
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: htng on September 01, 2017, 07:37
Some reviews for x800

http://hometheaterreview.com/sony-ubp-x800-ultra-hd-blu-ray-player-reviewed/?page=2

http://manuals.denon.com/AVRX4100W/EU/EN/GFNFSYuttunruh.php
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on September 01, 2017, 09:19
Please use proper step down transformer.  Avoid those switching invertor type that looks like power adapter power with plastic casing.

(Audio)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on September 01, 2017, 09:25
yup, the plastic one can malfunction n your 4K player will end up in smoke...
the metal one is way safer, if u don't want your house to burn down with the player too.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: teaport337 on September 01, 2017, 10:15
yup, the plastic one can malfunction n your 4K player will end up in smoke...
the metal one is way safer, if u don't want your house to burn down with the player too.

Hi Cash (and Audio),

After taking the advice from the bros here, I went ahead and bought one of those from HomeFix. PowerPac 80Ws @S$20+ And purchased my Sony player (and love it)

Should I be concerned? I do switch it the main off while not using it.

Please do recommend brand and place to purchase for a not-to-burn-the-player-nor-the-house transformer. Haha.

Best regards,
 teaport


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on September 01, 2017, 10:31
i actually had one of those plastic one's before..(n it burnt!)
my in-law's sent over a set of nice looking christmas blinking lights from japan..(100volts), i bought a plastic step down transformer (newstar brand) n it all ended up in smoke.. n the transformer was super hot n burnt..
so i learnt a very valuable lesson from that episode.
don't sting on cheap plastic transformers..
get those heavy metal one's, with proper heavy transformers in them.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on September 01, 2017, 10:35
anyway, if u look through my sales ad, i am selling my Black "FRANSUZ" Metal 500watts step down transformer..
jus a heads up for u..
only thing is one of the 2 outlets work..
the left side is non responsive..right side works fine n dandy.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: leyims on September 01, 2017, 10:40
I got from a friend a 4k uhd Planet Earth ii but my player sony s790 cant play the disc. Can recommend a 4k bluray player? Budget $600.
Thanks
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on September 01, 2017, 10:51
the sony s790 is not a pure 4K UHD player...
thats y it can't play the disc.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Ccyao on September 01, 2017, 11:03
I'm now thinking of getting the xbox one s to save all the hassle of transformer. Can upgrade my xbox 360. Now having promotion.


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: tane0019 on September 01, 2017, 11:17
I'm now thinking of getting the xbox one s to save all the hassle of transformer. Can upgrade my xbox 360. Now having promotion.

Wat promotion ?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Ccyao on September 01, 2017, 11:20
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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: leyims on September 01, 2017, 12:29
Any 4k bluray player selling at Comex?  Went to courts cwp 4k bluray player not available there.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Ccyao on September 01, 2017, 15:44
Didn't see any 4k player. Maybe I didn't comb thorough enough. Got the xbox one s 1TB bundle at $359. Think it's quite good deal.


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: htng on September 01, 2017, 16:18
Won't burn down la. How can it possibly burn down your house. lol!
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on September 01, 2017, 19:39
guy's, anyway the god of projectors has said that the XBOX ONE S is not a 4K player ah!!!
its a gaming machine...
so pls don't buy xbox one s because the god of projectors has spoken to me by saying that its jus a gaming machine..
see the link below to get a 4K Clear view!! hehehehe!!!!

http://www.xtremeplace.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=258321.0
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Chowbotak on September 01, 2017, 20:03
 ;D ;D I tot who!

BTW bros, will the addition of a step down trans in the chain degrade the video quality of the player?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on September 01, 2017, 20:51
the truth is painful if u wanna hear it bro chowbotak...
if u add a step down transformer to the same line of electrical supply, supplying the rest of your audio stuff, u will definitely hear some low end humming..
if u have a subwoofer in the same electrical line, even more pronounced will the hum be.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Chowbotak on September 01, 2017, 22:31
Hmmmm
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: htng on September 02, 2017, 10:45
So far I try not noticeable
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: DJQ on September 02, 2017, 11:38
the truth is painful if u wanna hear it bro chowbotak...
if u add a step down transformer to the same line of electrical supply, supplying the rest of your audio stuff, u will definitely hear some low end humming..
if u have a subwoofer in the same electrical line, even more pronounced will the hum be.
For once I agree with you bro cash. I always share not to use cheap basic step down transformer. Not tat I advocate expensive will be good. But alot of work is put into using quality and proper construction for good decent transformers for them to be really good for serious hifi/HT use.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Norman_Chan on September 03, 2017, 01:27
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170901/bb309553908cdb80f0a23412825a5533.jpg)

Wah...more cheaper than the original promotion price...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on September 03, 2017, 02:42
anyway, there is a new firmware update for the XBOX ONE S consoles..
it was released 5 days ago...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Norman_Chan on September 04, 2017, 16:45
For the Xbox One S , the HDMI connection , must one HDMI cable go to tv and the other HDMI cable go to the AV Amp ?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on September 04, 2017, 17:16
nope..
the other hdmi is a "input".... not output!!(it is for Cable Box input.. i tried to input my "UBox" but cannot... only Starhub box can, i don't have Singtel Mio box, so that one i dunno)
i connected my "Starhub" cable box into that "input" so that the xbox one s can upscale the starhub signals to 4K resolution.
which means when i wanna watch Starhub channels, the xbox one s has to be turned on to output 4K resolution.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on September 04, 2017, 17:18
the output Hdmi which says "TO TV" goes direct to my Onkyo Avr...
i let my onkyo control it.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Norman_Chan on September 04, 2017, 17:23
Thanks for the info.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on September 04, 2017, 17:26
(https://s26.postimg.org/5y3fd4wqx/Xbox_Ons_S.png) (https://postimages.org/)

(https://s26.postimg.org/lm4mjxccp/Untitled.png) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on September 04, 2017, 17:28
the hdmi on the right side is a "INPUT"
the hdmi on the left side is the "OUTPUT"
as shown in the pictures above.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: htng on September 04, 2017, 19:38
Anyone compared upscaling vs no upscaling? So far I compared uhd vs upscaling. I think once u go uhd, u won't go back to bluray. Lol!
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Tiktokape on September 05, 2017, 23:11
Has anybody received the Philips 4K BRP?

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170905/40ff9f815b2e4be285727c1b9b41d94e.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170905/7bf9ea140f4fd0c494dcb4464c0a1ef8.jpg)

Remote controller is pretty sleek & smooth. The rest of the accessories are pretty standard - manual, hdmi cable, remote controller batteries & SMPS for the player.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170905/147dba708c2b0f5ce5c00952d5713105.jpg)

Since the SMPS is in US voltage
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170905/f17e3cfb8866dd0202ef082afce75fda.jpg)

I'm using my spare 12v2a LPS to power it, so far so good.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170905/15d3af2265452e7940e2529b2eeeb9ba.jpg)

Updating firmware....
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170905/503c593765e72d5f17d0bd5d027171f4.jpg)

Front menu is pretty neat
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170905/e03b095c5b2563d00c092518b0f387f9.jpg)

Popping in my 4K Deadpool to test.. while loading, it is slightly noisier than my Oppo 203 but not annoying.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170905/cf98ec73d208969a7fff176cb5be01a2.jpg)

Looks good!
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170905/26e2a73f74575c0a2e10ab82421a2420.jpg)

Best value for money 4K BRP for 2017!

Will play with Netflix and report back later.

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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: landis1 on September 06, 2017, 13:55
Has anybody received the Philips 4K BRP?

Best value for money 4K BRP for 2017!

i have been using one of the sets for the past week and pretty satisfied with it considering the measly amount i paid for it. although need to top up $20 for a local power adapter i bought from sim lim square ;D

(https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/dc9d6324-3b37-4b46-80e9-e30029675553_1.ef86475ae39c9cc726b098a23d8bc139.jpeg?odnHeight=450&odnWidth=450&odnBg=FFFFFF)



Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: cstanxpl on September 06, 2017, 14:18
i have been using one of the sets for the past week and pretty satisfied with it considering the measly amount i paid for it. although need to top up $20 for a local power adapter i bought from sim lim square ;D

(https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/dc9d6324-3b37-4b46-80e9-e30029675553_1.ef86475ae39c9cc726b098a23d8bc139.jpeg?odnHeight=450&odnWidth=450&odnBg=FFFFFF)





Hi Landis1, can share the model of the power adaptor you purchased?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: landis1 on September 06, 2017, 14:27
Hi Landis1, can share the model of the power adaptor you purchased?

as mentioned, just go to any shop (#03-30, #03-35, etc ) in the sls building and buy any brand of the power adapter with the listed specifications ;D

i am assuming that you are looking for one for the philips 4k player. just managed to get it to work with a laptop power adapter with specifications of 12V, 4.74A (or at least 2.2A) with a  5.5mm OD/2.5 mm ID connector head. the power adapter is readily available at any laptop shop in sim lim square or sim lim tower for less than $20 ;D 

i am pleased to say that this player seems to work much better than my other players. i am glad i bought a few while the price is low ;D

(http://www.mega.pk/items_images/6184pl268667-hp_laptop_adaptor_laptop_power_supply_18_5v_6_5a_for_hp_dc924a_dg956a.jpg)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: cstanxpl on September 06, 2017, 14:42
as mentioned, just go to any shop (#03-30, #03-35, etc ) in the sls building and buy any brand of the power adapter with the listed specifications ;D


Noted and thanks. :)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Tiktokape on September 06, 2017, 14:47
i have been using one of the sets for the past week and pretty satisfied with it considering the measly amount i paid for it. although need to top up $20 for a local power adapter i bought from sim lim square ;D

(https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/dc9d6324-3b37-4b46-80e9-e30029675553_1.ef86475ae39c9cc726b098a23d8bc139.jpeg?odnHeight=450&odnWidth=450&odnBg=FFFFFF)
I'm too lazy to buy the UK adaptor, just use whatever my stash has  ;D I had Oppo 203 for a while, I'm not missing Oppo 203 to be honest, Philips is far stable vs Oppo. Gonna play more on Netflix 4k!
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: htng on September 06, 2017, 21:34
Wow! Philips better than Oppo 203?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on September 07, 2017, 00:00
yup, i sold my oppo 203 recently.
now using XBOX ONE S for 4K UHD playback..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Tiktokape on September 08, 2017, 08:29
Netflix via the Philip BRP is quite seamless. It is able to pick up my 4k enabled streaming account once it logged into my profile.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170908/668361558dbf2f9a0ffae00db3b69f5f.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170908/f845e8a7ebae67541933b5d8e3fa09ed.jpg)

Streaming Bandwidth can be seen at top left corner
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170908/cbb7dafc912681957667dd731c432fb3.jpg)

All done via WIFI mode. The machine loaded much faster against my Nvidia SATV Gen 1 to achieve 4k clarity. The buffer is quite constant too.

Highly recommended to ONE who focus primarily on HT duties - playback of Bluray - Standard or 4k & streaming of Netflix since it is available for subscription in SG context. It has half of the footprint of Oppo 203! WAF is given with our limited rack space.

However, if ONE seeks more in music playback as a transport, the flexibility to connect with external DAC, Oppo 203 might edges out better.

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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: psychobilly on September 08, 2017, 10:08
pity the Philips BDP is region protected else I will hoot  ;D
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: tane0019 on September 08, 2017, 14:29
Willips simi model ?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on September 08, 2017, 14:48
Willips BDP7501, is the model number bro..
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Tiktokape on September 08, 2017, 15:30
pity the Philips BDP is region protected else I will hoot  ;D
Hoot from UK la!
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: tane0019 on September 08, 2017, 15:35
 ;D - this weekend hoot 4D first - ;D

7501
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: psychobilly on September 08, 2017, 16:34
Hoot from UK la!
I check oredi amazon uk
No have
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on September 08, 2017, 17:17
;D - this weekend hoot 4D first - ;D

7501

Hmmmmm..... looks beri nice, this number!!
ok, i will hoot this number!
thks!
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on September 08, 2017, 18:48
pity the Philips BDP is region protected else I will hoot  ;D
BD disc play region lock niah mah... DVD still can remote hack bah???
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: psychobilly on September 08, 2017, 19:58
BD disc play region lock niah mah... DVD still can remote hack bah???
I dun watch DVDs
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: BlurRhino on September 10, 2017, 20:20
So if I have uhd and region A Blu-ray Discs, the choices are only Xbox One S and Oppo?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on September 10, 2017, 21:12
UHD 4K Discs - No region nuts, whatsoever...
Blu-ray Disc - Got region nuts to make discs unplayable..
DVD Disc - Also got region nuts to make discs unplayable..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: BlurRhino on September 11, 2017, 09:08
So ya since I can't buy from US due to different voltage and UK due to region lock, I am stuck with Oppo and Xbox that can be purchase locally for a proper UHD player that can play region A bluray..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Norman_Chan on September 11, 2017, 10:50
So ya since I can't buy from US due to different voltage and UK due to region lock, I am stuck with Oppo and Xbox that can be purchase locally for a proper UHD player that can play region A bluray..

Just get one of this plug for your US UHD blu ray player , will do.

http://home-fix.com/estore/home-fix-brands/m-s/soundteoh/soundteoh-fc-60-ac-ac-converter-60w.html#.WbX51v8Unrd
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: liverpudian on September 11, 2017, 21:56
i have been using one of the sets for the past week and pretty satisfied with it considering the measly amount i paid for it. although need to top up $20 for a local power adapter i bought from sim lim square ;D

(https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/dc9d6324-3b37-4b46-80e9-e30029675553_1.ef86475ae39c9cc726b098a23d8bc139.jpeg?odnHeight=450&odnWidth=450&odnBg=FFFFFF)

Think this is a better alternative than a step-down or AC-AC transformer.
Since it is universal voltage can just plug it into any countries socket without worries.
Also need not worry about plugging the player directly into SG socket without a transformer & frying it in the process :'(
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: liverpudian on September 11, 2017, 22:03
pity the Philips BDP is region protected else I will hoot  ;D
I dun watch DVDs

For blu-ray, US & SG are both region A and since you dun watch DVDs then the region lock issue is moot unless you also have region B BDs in your collection.
So the only additional device you need for the Philips UHD player from US is a step-down transformer.

Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: liverpudian on September 11, 2017, 22:16
So if I have uhd and region A Blu-ray Discs, the choices are only Xbox One S and Oppo?

Not true...any UHD players bought in SG will play the discs you have (ie UHDs & region A BDs).
As for DVDs, most are region-locked to Area 3 out of the box but might be able to unlock it (but I am not familiar with it...perhaps other bros can advice on this).
Besides Xbox One S and Oppo, there are also those by the 2 big kimchi companies. Unfortunately those will set you back by at least S$500 :(

Incidentally saw the Samsung UHD player being sold at Taka BD for $499 yday with $200 Robinsons voucher. So nett price you pay is $300 (after taking into consideration the Rob vouchers)...a rather good deal IMO but unfortunately have to pass as I oredi hooted a XBox One S recently :'(.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: htng on September 12, 2017, 21:11
Initially I have concerns also but after using step down transformer, it is actually not a huge problem
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: eagle15 on September 12, 2017, 21:30
Philips 7502 with DV going for USD$150

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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: landis1 on September 13, 2017, 08:29
Incidentally saw the Samsung UHD player being sold at Taka BD for $499 yday with $200 Robinsons voucher. So nett price you pay is $300 (after taking into consideration the Rob vouchers)...a rather good deal IMO but unfortunately have to pass as I oredi hooted a XBox One S recently :'(.

if anyone is interested and has not gotten his 4k player, here is your chance. mustafa is selling the samsung ubd-k8500 at s$539 but with s$200 robinson vouchers. good deal if you are asking me ;D

(https://cnet1.cbsistatic.com/img/5P0ajMNsJ7xY6OeFLPxQq0I6sew=/770x433/2016/02/11/739992e2-13d4-4186-9dd4-11f0ca679eb4/samsung-ubd-k8500-02.jpg)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on September 21, 2017, 20:00
https://www.avforums.com/news/2017-4k-ultra-hd-blu-ray-player-best-buy-comparison.13873?utm_campaign=September_2017_Newsletter&utm_source=Suite26&utm_medium=Email+Campaign

A nice overview of the current models..
Do bear in mind that it doesn't cover details like which model does Dolby Vision or HDR unless you go into the details.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: sparkie78 on October 07, 2017, 10:07
Hi all,

I bought a Sony UBPX800 from Amazon. When I want to stream movies (MKV files), the player could not detect the MKV files in the folder. The specs sheet says this player support MKV file over DLNA. Any faced the same issue?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on October 19, 2017, 01:12
Most knows about the release of the officially approved mod version...
https://www.spill.hk/audiovisual/Oppo-UDP-203-SE-4K-UHD-blu-ray-player-hk-official-announced/

but... nobody mention... CAMBRIDGE AUDIO jumps into the pool as well?
https://www.spill.hk/audiovisual/cambridge-audio-cxuhd-review/
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Chowbotak on October 19, 2017, 13:35
Is this really region free?


(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171019/cffd02b5cbb129c4346fbe483aaeb72e.jpg)



Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on October 19, 2017, 17:06
bro, that model cannot play 4k UHD discs.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on October 19, 2017, 17:09
it just "Upscale" regular blurays to 4k resolution..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Chowbotak on October 19, 2017, 17:13
Thanks bro. Misleading ad knn. Anyway would always research before hooting
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on October 19, 2017, 18:41
FYI
$525 is too much to pay for it anyway ..
Cheers
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Chowbotak on October 20, 2017, 11:45
Are there any region free 4k players sold locally?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: teaport337 on October 20, 2017, 11:50
Are there any region free 4k players sold locally?

4K titles aren’t region-lock. It’s more on whether you are playing BR still. So it’s usually the A and B. Lol.


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Chowbotak on October 20, 2017, 12:17
4K titles aren’t region-lock. It’s more on whether you are playing BR still. So it’s usually the A and B. Lol.


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Great to know tat! Guess I wont need region free since I have a region B player   :D
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on October 29, 2017, 19:27
FYI
Price drop on the Sony 800:
https://www.amazon.com/Sony-UBP-X800-Ultra-Blu-ray-Player/dp/B01N4RCPKO
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: BlurRhino on October 31, 2017, 09:17
FYI
Price drop on the Sony 800:
https://www.amazon.com/Sony-UBP-X800-Ultra-Blu-ray-Player/dp/B01N4RCPKO

But this will require the step up transformer to use locally right?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Chowbotak on October 31, 2017, 13:36
its not that big...
see the regular "Newstar" plastic casing transformer vs the metal "Fransuz" transformer?

(https://s26.postimg.org/gyjmujkg9/IMG20170831131455.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/a835l3xad/)

Bro where did u get the Franzus?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on October 31, 2017, 13:44
I got it sometime ago..
can't remember..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Chowbotak on October 31, 2017, 17:57
Hmm.. in sg? SLT I suppose  ???
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: eggz on November 01, 2017, 16:50
Philips 7502 with DV going for USD$150


Did anyone else get this? i just bought it from the US. It's a simple no frills player, for the price, can't really complain. It's made by Funai who I believe are partners with Philips for the US market. Still waiting for the DolbyVision update. Youtube and Netflix apps work well but the network playback app seems to have the wrong aspect ratio and I can't find a way to adjust it. It needs a step down converter as it'll only accept 120V.

I've tried a few UltraHD discs (Planet Earth, Revenant, Mad Max) and playback is good and stable so far, no issues. it's connected to a Sony 65Z9D through a Sony HT-ST5000 soundbar.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on November 08, 2017, 17:56
News flash, the Sony 800 is now on sale for 149, with free shipping.
There's a technical error, which doesn't allow free shipping. Just talk to their rep and sort it out.
Cheers
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: chamay on November 08, 2017, 18:00
Good deal for the Sony 4k uhd player.  I bought at US$199 with FSSG
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: maxray on November 08, 2017, 21:11
Thanks for the info..Just order it with free shipping to Singapore:)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Gondon72 on November 09, 2017, 01:00
Thanks for the info..Just order it with free shipping to Singapore:)

I am trying to chat with the rep now.  He says i cant see the free shipping option is because the item size is greater than 18” x 14” x 8”.

May i know how you go about it to ask for free shipping to SG?  Thanks
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: eagle15 on November 09, 2017, 01:34
Amazon has rectified the error in listing it eligible for free shipping. Unlikely to get it shipped free now.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: maxray on November 09, 2017, 09:42
I have shared with the customer service that I able to get free shipping before this promotion price for this item.they recongnised that it should not be free shipping due to the item dimension but fullfil their obligation for free shipping this time round as they acknowledge it's their fault.That what I call a good customer service.,😊
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on November 09, 2017, 10:14
Sometimes we should simply grab a bargain asap, and don't hesitate.. before it is gone..
Don't worry.. in due course there will be other bargains. Esp as players get replaced. Who knows what goes on sale on Black Friday?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: cstanxpl on November 09, 2017, 10:24
It still shows as below.

Sony UBP-X800 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray Player (2017 Model)

With Deal:   $149.99 + No Import Fees Deposit & FREE Shipping to Singapore Details
You Save:   $150.00 (50%)
In Stock.
This item ships to Singapore, Singapore. Want it Wednesday, Nov. 15? Order within 13 hrs 51 mins and choose AmazonGlobal Priority Shipping at checkout. Learn more
Ships from and sold by Amazon.com. Gift-wrap available.

Just ordered a set for my bedroom use.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Gondon72 on November 09, 2017, 11:32
It still shows as below.

Sony UBP-X800 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray Player (2017 Model)

With Deal:   $149.99 + No Import Fees Deposit & FREE Shipping to Singapore Details
You Save:   $150.00 (50%)
In Stock.
This item ships to Singapore, Singapore. Want it Wednesday, Nov. 15? Order within 13 hrs 51 mins and choose AmazonGlobal Priority Shipping at checkout. Learn more
Ships from and sold by Amazon.com. Gift-wrap available.

Just ordered a set for my bedroom use.

The shipping charges will appear when only you checkout the items.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: sigurros on November 09, 2017, 11:55
Just ordered a unit.

Any lobang for a step down converter?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: teaport337 on November 09, 2017, 12:08
Just ordered a unit.

Any lobang for a step down converter?

Got mine from Home Fix

By the way guys, pre BF on Amazon US. Three UHD titles for USD50. Happy shopping.


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: cstanxpl on November 09, 2017, 12:21
The shipping charges will appear when only you checkout the items.

I'm just stating that it is still eligible for free shipping to SG as per the product page indicates.

To get free shipping you need to speak to the customer service as mentioned by the others.

As opposed to below.

Amazon has rectified the error in listing it eligible for free shipping. Unlikely to get it shipped free now.


Hope anyone who is thinking of getting the Sony can get it free shipped to SG too.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: sigurros on November 09, 2017, 12:33
Got mine from Home Fix

By the way guys, pre BF on Amazon US. Three UHD titles for USD50. Happy shopping.


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Got mine from Home Fix

By the way guys, pre BF on Amazon US. Three UHD titles for USD50. Happy shopping.


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Hi Can pm model and price?

Cheers
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: eagle15 on November 09, 2017, 12:57
I had mine shipped FOC eventually, after speaking to 6 CSOs :D

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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Gondon72 on November 09, 2017, 15:33
I had mine shipped FOC eventually, after speaking to 6 CSOs :D

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Pardon me, do you paid first and asked the CSO to change the charges or before paying?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: eagle15 on November 09, 2017, 16:41
Amazon committed to waive off the shipping before I paid.

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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Gondon72 on November 09, 2017, 16:47
Amazon committed to waive off the shipping before I paid.

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Ok, shall try my luck again.  CSO asked me to send screenshots to them. :(
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: cstanxpl on November 09, 2017, 17:03
Ok, shall try my luck again.  CSO asked me to send screenshots to them. :(

You can just ask the CSO to see the product page. It clearly still states free shipping to Singapore.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on November 09, 2017, 17:07
They waived shipping after I ordered. It really doesn't matter, so long as you get it..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: n3wk1d on November 09, 2017, 17:49
Just ordered mine too, if they waived my shipping I'll get wonder women disc. :-)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Gondon72 on November 09, 2017, 20:33
I also went ahead to order mine too.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on November 09, 2017, 20:41
Just ordered mine too, if they waived my shipping I'll get wonder women disc. :-)
Nice - you have Amazon Prime..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on November 09, 2017, 22:31
LG is also shipping to SG:
USD 199

https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/asin/B06XGGFZ9R/panandscathed-20



Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: shk on November 10, 2017, 18:44
Sony to launch their 4k UHD players here in Jan 2018.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: sigurros on November 10, 2017, 19:39
Sony to launch their 4k UHD players ihere in Jan 2018.

Will it cost an arm or leg? :)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: shk on November 10, 2017, 20:20
Will it cost an arm or leg? :)

Probably...:)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: n3wk1d on November 10, 2017, 21:02
Got an email stating my shipping cost would be waived for this order.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: eagle15 on November 10, 2017, 21:52
Got an email stating my shipping cost would be waived for this order.
Nice!

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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: shk on November 10, 2017, 22:19
Got an email stating my shipping cost would be waived for this order.

The item page shown free shipping but during check out still include the shipping cost. Anyway chatted with the CS and he asked me to order first and give him the order no. through the chat window. Instantly he removed the shipping cost.  Though service is good, this redundant process is not necessary which they can easily automate it.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on November 11, 2017, 16:38
Region free version available here:
http://www.multisystem-electronics.com/2017-sony-ubp-x800-uhd-4k-sacd-3d-hdr-xdee-hi-res-audio-all-region-free-dvd-and-zone-abc-blu-ray-player/
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: ptey on November 14, 2017, 10:24
Selling my hardly used Samsung UBD-K8500 (local set), interested view my post in Home theater Sales.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: sigurros on November 14, 2017, 12:42
Sony UBP 800 in Amazon price just gone up to USD 199.

Due to Amazon error, CSO offered expedited shipping. Arriving in 2 days.  ;)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: n3wk1d on November 15, 2017, 19:57
Wah, so good service ah.
Mine just shipped. Arriving on or before 23rd.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: sigurros on November 15, 2017, 20:07
Wah, so good service ah.
Mine just shipped. Arriving on or before 23rd.

Yah. You will not find such service here.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: shk on November 15, 2017, 20:19
Wah simi error so good corrected with expedited shipping ? Mine just shipped and arriving on 28!
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: cstanxpl on November 15, 2017, 21:00
Sony UBP-X1000EX review from WHF?

https://www.whathifi.com/sony/ubp-x1000es/review
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: sigurros on November 15, 2017, 21:26
Wah simi error so good corrected with expedited shipping ? Mine just shipped and arriving on 28!

The first 3 CSO can’t solve my shipping charges issue and the 4th gave expedited shipping for the trouble caused.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Ccyao on November 16, 2017, 22:50
Got mine from Home Fix

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Bro,
You are using Sony X800?
Can share what type of converter did you get from Home Fix?

Price for X800 just dropped back to Usd 149.99.


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: sigurros on November 16, 2017, 23:10
Bro,
You are using Sony X800?
Can share what type of converter did you get from Home Fix?

Price for X800 just dropped back to Usd 149.99.


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Just my 2c, bought a Pyle stepdown/step up transformer from Amazon as well for $30.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: FookLai on November 16, 2017, 23:41
May I know what is the X800 power chord pin type? Is it the two flat one like typical China adapter or one big pin and one small pin? Any kind souls can show a pictures?

I am using JVC X500, which is not a native UHD projector, also doesn't support HDR. Can I use x800 to watch UHD with the JVC?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Chowbotak on November 17, 2017, 02:48
Just got my x800 today. The captive power cord is the 2 flat pin type.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Ccyao on November 17, 2017, 06:35
Just my 2c, bought a Pyle stepdown/step up transformer from Amazon as well for $30.

Thanks bro! I just checked it out. It seems like a good deal. Unfortunately, I do not have extra space for that. I'm hoping I can use the player with those small converter from Home Fix. Otherwise, I am happy with my One S.


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: eagle15 on November 17, 2017, 08:49
May I know what is the X800 power chord pin type? Is it the two flat one like typical China adapter or one big pin and one small pin? Any kind souls can show a pictures?

I am using JVC X500, which is not a native UHD projector, also doesn't support HDR. Can I use x800 to watch UHD with the JVC?

I'm using the 500 too. This will help:

https://www.monoprice.com/product?c_id=101&cp_id=10114&cs_id=1011402&p_id=27331&seq=1&format=2

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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: FookLai on November 17, 2017, 09:40
Just got my x800 today. The captive power cord is the 2 flat pin type.

Thanks for the info!
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: FookLai on November 17, 2017, 09:41
I'm using the 500 too. This will help:

https://www.monoprice.com/product?c_id=101&cp_id=10114&cs_id=1011402&p_id=27331&seq=1&format=2

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Required a HD fury then I will forget this player until I upgrade my JVC to a UHD projector.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Gondon72 on November 17, 2017, 09:51
Thanks bro! I just checked it out. It seems like a good deal. Unfortunately, I do not have extra space for that. I'm hoping I can use the player with those small converter from Home Fix. Otherwise, I am happy with my One S.


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I am searching for one too.  still cant find something that is in between the size of both 2. :D
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on November 17, 2017, 10:03
Just started a thread specifically on the Sonys :)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: lcheetec on November 18, 2017, 06:19
Just got my x800 today. The captive power cord is the 2 flat pin type.

Just ordered mine. Have reported the shipping charge for a waiver.

daniel
Upper Changi
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audiolab on November 18, 2017, 16:26
One question for bros familiar with 4K players, if I buy a Samsung K8500 4K player but my tv is 4K without HDR (Samsung 8500 4K), do I still get the benefits of the 4K player when I play 4K disc vs playing normal Bluray on my Oppo 103D upscale to 4K?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: htng on November 18, 2017, 17:32
Thanks bro! I just checked it out. It seems like a good deal. Unfortunately, I do not have extra space for that. I'm hoping I can use the player with those small converter from Home Fix. Otherwise, I am happy with my One S.

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Thanks bro! I just checked it out. It seems like a good deal. Unfortunately, I do not have extra space for that. I'm hoping I can use the player with those small converter from Home Fix. Otherwise, I am happy with my One S.


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you use the one from sim lim level 1
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: bluepill193 on November 18, 2017, 18:23
Yes you will get a 4K picture but without HDR the improvement over 1080 full HD is not that much unless screen is big
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audiolab on November 18, 2017, 18:29
Thanks for the reply. The info unread online is also not significant improvement. Guess I will hold back till I change my tv. Hopefully by the the 4K players will be more mature.

Yes you will get a 4K picture but without HDR the improvement over 1080 full HD is not that much unless screen is big
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Ccyao on November 18, 2017, 18:30
you use the one from sim lim level 1
Thanks bro!
Any picture to show how it looks like?


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on November 29, 2017, 13:40
Given the low cost of new 4k HDMI cables from brands like Monoprice, do consider changing them - unless you have laid a long length in your ceiling..
Most issues are related to such HDMI cables... cheap upgrade.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on December 02, 2017, 00:17
Philips has a DV capable 4k player that ships to SG free:
https://www.amazon.com/Philips-BDP7502-F7-Blu-ray-Player/dp/B073P7KY1Y
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: FitForFun on December 04, 2017, 22:00
Hi all

Just ordered the x800 @ USD198 with free shipping a couple days ago...

Saw step down transformers (60w and 80w). The player should be 15w only. However saw some post say must need 100w transformer.

True or not? Why?

Appreciate all advice.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: liverpudian on December 05, 2017, 01:53
Hi all

Just ordered the x800 @ USD198 with free shipping a couple days ago...

Saw step down transformers (60w and 80w). The player should be 15w only. However saw some post say must need 100w transformer.

True or not? Why?

Appreciate all advice.

Diff pple/sales staff will recommend diff power transformers. Some articles I read say 1 with 1.5x the rated power will suffice while some sales guys I spoke with recommend at least 2-3x saying the transformers will degrade over time etc. Some go for much higher power ones as some appliances requires more power at start-up or for certain functions though most times the power needed is much lesser. For dvd/bd players think the latter unlikely to happen.
So for the X800, I bought the same 50w transformer as Pete did (mentioned in the Transformer thread). Seems to be working fine for me so far though ot sure if ok for prolonged usage. For 110w appliances that need transformers, I have a habit of switching off the mains when not in use just to be safe.
Anyway if for some reasons the 50w is not good enuf, I still have a 300W one used with my US -purchased Honeywell air purifier (bought during the haze crisis couple years back when air purifiers all OOS in SG)...just cannot use both the player and air purifier at the same time ;D.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: FitForFun on December 05, 2017, 21:17
Thanks Liverpudian
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on December 21, 2017, 06:59
Xbox One S has a new firmware update out..
lots of fixes..
cheers!!
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: eggz on December 21, 2017, 10:09
Xbox One S has a new firmware update out..
lots of fixes..
cheers!!

Any chance that either Xbox one S or X will have support for Dolby Vision in the future?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on December 21, 2017, 10:19
IMO
Apart from the Oppo, DV will be a gen 2 implementation..
And that depends on whether DV takes off.. sort of like the old BR vs HD DVD issue, there may be only one survivor in a couple of years, or like DD and DTS, two flavors to cater too.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on December 21, 2017, 10:20
I look forward to the Gen 2 players, with more stable hard and software.. both DV and HDR10, and HDMI 2.1... let's see what happens in 2018..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on December 21, 2017, 11:35
Hi all

Just ordered the x800 @ USD198 with free shipping a couple days ago...

Saw step down transformers (60w and 80w). The player should be 15w only. However saw some post say must need 100w transformer.

True or not? Why?

Appreciate all advice.


Lots of X-800 users are plugging their 110VAC units directly to 220VAC.   Disclaimer, we are not responsible if you damaged your unit by doing the same.

(Audio)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: eggz on December 22, 2017, 12:09
I look forward to the Gen 2 players, with more stable hard and software.. both DV and HDR10, and HDMI 2.1... let's see what happens in 2018..

Apparently it's very unlikely we'll see any devices supporting HDMI 2.1 in 2018. Maybe right at the tail end or at CES 2019 at the earliest
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on December 22, 2017, 20:06
Look at the difference between the LG and Sony in build quality:


LG


(https://i58.servimg.com/u/f58/11/41/20/35/up970i10.jpg)




Sony


(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4587/25249019208_2889be9e48_z.jpg)


Oppo 203


(https://images.techhive.com/images/article/2016/12/oppo-udp-203-interior-shot-100700979-orig.jpg)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: eggz on December 25, 2017, 11:45
Thanks for the pictures Peter. It'll be interesting to see what SOCs the LG and Sony are using.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: in1voice on December 25, 2017, 15:35
The Oppo sure looks more complicated, which means better, right?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on December 25, 2017, 15:51
The Oppo does audio in analogue, so if necessarily has to have more complicated circuits. That's why it costs more..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: BozQ on December 26, 2017, 03:25
Any chance that either Xbox one S or X will have support for Dolby Vision in the future?
For now, no. It will support HDR10+ in the future. Unless something changes along the way.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: ronildoq on January 07, 2018, 13:23
https://www.avforums.com/news/panasonic-launches-first-4k-ultra-hd-blu-ray-players-with-hdr10-and-dolby-vision.14438

Another one to consider...can bye bye to oppo 205 if it takes ages to arrive
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: dsj88 on January 07, 2018, 13:38
Hopefully a DV  firmware update for my  UB900
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on January 07, 2018, 16:57
Panasonic promises exciting times in 2018 ...
https://www.whathifi.com/news/panasonics-flagship-2018-4k-blu-ray-player-supports-dolby-vision-hdr10-and-alexa
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on February 27, 2018, 22:58
The best 4k players:


https://www.engadget.com/2018/02/23/the-best-4k-blu-ray-player/ (https://www.engadget.com/2018/02/23/the-best-4k-blu-ray-player/)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: DJQ on February 28, 2018, 09:30
and Sony UBP-X800 is the Winner.  :)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on February 28, 2018, 10:43
If you ask me this is a stupid review.

They admitted that the Oppo 203 is the best 4K Blu Ray Player and then disregard it because it does't stream video........and it costs more.....WTF!!!

Yes, the Sony UBD X-800 is a good player but we are looking for the BEST, aren't we?

Article should be retitled as "The Cheapest 4k Blu Ray Player".

(Audio)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: DJQ on February 28, 2018, 11:44
chill bro Audio. nowadays price IS a factor component for reviews. so what BEST but only ministers can afford?  ;D ok sorry pun intended.
when it hits a price bracket out of reach for the average buyer, this is what happens.
still Oppo has always been a premium product.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on February 28, 2018, 14:08
chill bro Audio. nowadays price IS a factor component for reviews. so what BEST but only ministers can afford?  ;D ok sorry pun intended.
when it hits a price bracket out of reach for the average buyer, this is what happens.
still Oppo has always been a premium product.

End of the day, once you got the Sony X-800 and found that it weighs like a piece of paper with no display, you would then appreciate what the Oppo 203 brings you.   You just look at the Sony and Oppo interior pictures on top of this page.  You can see what is value and you can see what is build-quality.  You can be a low wage worker and yet afford the Oppo.....that's a fact.  What is my criteria for affordability?   One month salary.

You buy cheap but in the end, you have to buy many to try.  With the Oppo, you buy one and that's it.....turns out to be the right decision and the cheapest.....it's the best player, so there is no need to upgrade or try until something significant comes long.

(Audio)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on March 17, 2018, 21:03
Now @ GainCity sungeikadut, UBDM8500 is $100 more ex than 9500?!!
Whats the diff.?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: cstanxpl on March 29, 2018, 16:33
WHF? Sony BDP-X700 review

https://www.whathifi.com/sony/ubp-x700/review
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on March 29, 2018, 20:03
PHILIPS announcements of their 4k Dolby HDR players is...
https://hometheaterreview.com/dolby-vision-comes-to-philips-uhd-blu-ray-players/
...cheaply affordable ...and cheaply look as well...

No premium stuff like the last BDP9700.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on April 01, 2018, 18:57
I wonder if we will have a simple player that does all the competing formats soon.. and is actually sold locally for <$400...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on April 01, 2018, 19:24
Philips latest announcement is priced below USD300. So... Don't expect Qdeo or BurrBrown DAC to be used baa...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on April 03, 2018, 12:37
Philips one and only HDR10 BD player in north american market
https://www.usa.philips.com/c-p/BDP7302_F7/4k-ultra-hd-blu-ray-player/specifications
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on April 06, 2018, 22:29
If y'all nvr mention, I wouldn't have noticed...
4k XBox priced much cheaper than standalone 4k players like LG UP970!!!
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on April 06, 2018, 22:37
If y'all nvr mention, I wouldn't have noticed...
4k XBox priced much cheaper than standalone 4k players like LG UP970!!!
How much is a 1Tb XBox One S in SG?
Remember, that there is no Dolby Vision for the X Box IIRC..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on April 06, 2018, 23:14
Didn't notice any 1TB ones... But 500GB ones, mostly in white, and comes in one game... except racing one that let's u download FORZA and HOTWHEELS racing game... $348 @ Courts. Orchard Branch more option.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on April 07, 2018, 00:18
The comparison of the $348 Xbox1S against SONY UBP X800
http://www.youtube.com/v/MNGVmluD1jk&fs=1
Pros of XBox: Video output in the disc's original/purest form.
Cons of Xbox: Audio limitation due to no HDMI Audio. No Remote- Control totally controlled by the gaming keypad
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on April 07, 2018, 00:46
Ah Teo's advice on setting up the XBox first before connecting to 4K TV
http://www.youtube.com/v/SHVJYB-Qews&fs=1
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on April 07, 2018, 07:46
u have to buy the remote for xbox one s or x...see link below...(Aliexpress has compatible remotes too)

https://www.xbox.com/en-SG/xbox-one/accessories/controllers/media-remote
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on April 07, 2018, 07:59
how old is this youtube video?

Atmos has been enabled on the xbox one s for quite some time already bro..hehehehe!!
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on April 08, 2018, 03:04
How much is a 1Tb XBox One S in SG?
Remember, that there is no Dolby Vision for the X Box IIRC..
X1S spotted @ Mustafa. $101 ex than Courts 500gb version with same game bundles.

Special Editions with specially designed casings priced @ 499 for same HDD size.
(https://p1.akcdn.net/full/458009339.microsoft-xbox-one-s-slim-1tb-limited-edition-minecraft.jpg)

2TB special editions with Gears of War design $629.
(https://img.ruten.com.tw/s2/a/a2/e8/21707270474472_515.jpg)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on April 09, 2018, 21:17
Thanks bro, I might either spring for one of them when I am next in Europe, or get the Sony X700 as a region B BR player with DV 4k playback..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on April 18, 2018, 07:19
Philips one and only HDR10 BD player in north american market
https://www.usa.philips.com/c-p/BDP7302_F7/4k-ultra-hd-blu-ray-player/specifications
http://www.youtube.com/v/8Y6tNLRTAuY&fs=1
http://www.youtube.com/v/PHLv9YB3PnU&fs=1
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on April 29, 2018, 00:16
(https://scontent.fsin4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p403x403/31398110_2085813681636270_8906600121257426944_o.png?_nc_cat=0&oh=5eac3426695357001088c1179d9d5328&oe=5B98B770)
PHILIPS Carnival coming in 2 weeks time. Perhaps we may get to see 220v version of BDP-7502 or 5502?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on May 01, 2018, 05:34
Pioneer may enter the fray with an audiophile player :
https://www.whathifi.com/news/pioneer-to-fill-4k-ultra-hd-blu-ray-player-gap-left-oppo
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: DJQ on May 01, 2018, 09:55
http://jp.pioneer-audiovisual.com/bdlx/

Nice.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on May 05, 2018, 20:50
https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1521792787

LG introduces new players, with the 90 having DV.. again no news on whether they will appear on the local scene..

"The new UBK90 will replace last year’s UB970. Unlike its predecessor, UBK90 will come with Dolby Vision support from the start. It will of course also support the HDR10 base layer, which is mandatory under the UHD Blu-ray standard.

These are UHD Blu-ray players so you need a 4K TV, preferably with good HDR capabilities, to enjoy the pictures. The main difference between UBK90 and UBK80 is lack of Dolby Vision on the latter. UBK90 will have two HDMI outputs, whereas UBK80 will have only one."
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on May 05, 2018, 20:55
There's a growing trend... if i'm not wrong, since last year or so... that the back panel connections getting barebone with just digital outputs of both coaxial as well as optical, and just one HDMI output nia...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: eagle15 on May 06, 2018, 09:07

Lots of X-800 users are plugging their 110VAC units directly to 220VAC.   Disclaimer, we are not responsible if you damaged your unit by doing the same.

(Audio)
Mine goes right into the distributor without any transformer. Hasn't quit on me yet.

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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: kelvinsin on May 06, 2018, 14:15
There are HK users who bought x800 from amazon us which claimed 110v/60hz actually support universal voltage.

https://post76.hk/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=264404&aid=918501&from=album&page=5&mobile=2
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: reuters on May 07, 2018, 17:18
Where can you get both 203 and 205 locally? Are they still available?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: ralfale on May 07, 2018, 17:20
Sound affairs. Look for James. 96949704
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on May 07, 2018, 17:33
Where can you get both 203 and 205 locally? Are they still available?
You best inquire quickly, from my last chat with him, they are all sold or accounted for..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: ronildoq on May 07, 2018, 17:54
Where can you get both 203 and 205 locally? Are they still available?

If quality matters to you, get the 205, brilliant! The best 4K player on the planet now . No doubt
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: reuters on May 07, 2018, 18:05
You best inquire quickly, from my last chat with him, they are all sold or accounted for..

Thanks for the contact.

If quality matters to you, get the 205, brilliant! The best 4K player on the planet now . No doubt

I read that the difference is in the audio?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on May 07, 2018, 20:07
I read that the difference is in the audio?

Is it?  You buy the 203 and you will be itching to find that out......don't give yourself the excuse to eventually buy both players.....it's very painful.

Anyway i think they stop production already so, even if you want you may not get.....

(I don't be hi-fi salesman , wasted.....)

(Audio)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on May 07, 2018, 20:24
I read that the difference is in the audio?
Bro, if you are not aware of the differences between the players, I suggest you hop over to their official website and our own thread to familiarise yourself with the differences first.
Cheers
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on May 07, 2018, 21:38
Apparently the new DV equipped LG 4k player won't pass DV to a Sony TV... some protectionism coming into play here...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on May 07, 2018, 22:16
I read that the difference is in the audio?
Nothing new.
Its just a plain science of audio processing. On board or off board. What processing chips n dacs to convert digital to analogue, on board or off board.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: eggz on May 08, 2018, 08:52
Apparently the new DV equipped LG 4k player won't pass DV to a Sony TV... some protectionism coming into play here...

At this time, the only player that has been announced to support DV on Sony TVs is the Oppo 203/205? I think their firmware updates are still undergoing validation at Dolby.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audiolab on May 08, 2018, 09:02
Next to come will their own X700. However, seems like the software update for Dolby has been delayed for a while and people are getting frustrated for the long wait.

At this time, the only player that has been announced to support DV on Sony TVs is the Oppo 203/205? I think their firmware updates are still undergoing validation at Dolby.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on May 08, 2018, 10:05
Thanks for the contact.

BTW James should be in Munich for the hifi show, so his replies will be slower. You can ask him if he has any left..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: reuters on May 08, 2018, 10:53
BTW James should be in Munich for the hifi show, so his replies will be slower. You can ask him if he has any left..

Yeah, he has already replied me yesterday. Thanks for your advice!
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on May 08, 2018, 10:57
Yeah, he has already replied me yesterday. Thanks for your advice!
So have you bought the 205? How much is it now?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: reuters on May 08, 2018, 11:10
So have you bought the 205? How much is it now?

Yup, I ordered from him already. He will only be back on next Tuesday.

He quoted me 2.4k for the 205. Is that the current price now?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: eggz on May 08, 2018, 11:15
Next to come will their own X700. However, seems like the software update for Dolby has been delayed for a while and people are getting frustrated for the long wait.


This has not been officially confirmed by Sony right? I think the assumption is that since it's a Sony 4K player, it should support the low latency DV profile or perhaps it's also coz Sony demoed it playing DV material to one of it's TVs at CES?

Anyway, rumor is that the X700's DV functionality is also undergoing validation at Dolby.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on May 08, 2018, 11:16
Yup, I ordered from him already. He will only be back on next Tuesday.

He quoted me 2.4k for the 205. Is that the current price now?
good for you bro, I don't know what James charges for his players. If you like it, grab it before it runs out.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audiolab on May 08, 2018, 11:44
Quick update on Sony X700. Local stock has arrived. My contact at HN just send me pics. I am checking price as I am typing!
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: ngsk on May 08, 2018, 11:49
Yeah, he has already replied me yesterday. Thanks for your advice!

Yes $2400 is the price now promotion time $2280.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on May 08, 2018, 11:54
Quick update on Sony X700. Local stock has arrived. My contact at HN just send me pics. I am checking price as I am typing!
Good news for all Sony fans. And Sony TV owners... let's hope they give us the DV too.
Do post news of the indicative price in the Sony players thread too bro, cheers
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audiolab on May 08, 2018, 12:28
List price is 419
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: eggz on May 08, 2018, 14:23
List price is 419

Pretty expensive

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B078HXF9H2/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B078HXF9H2/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER)

Take into account the shipping etc. still only comes out to about SGD250 from Amazon
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on May 08, 2018, 14:28
Pretty expensive...
List price nia la... real retail price should be lower, unless... SONY wants to play the monopoly game as well... since there wasn't any news from PANASONIC so far...
Malaysia list price is 1399RM ley...
http://www.sony.com.my/electronics/blu-ray-disc-players/ubp-x700
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audiolab on May 08, 2018, 14:43
Singapore price is always higher for some reason. The same applies for tv.

I was contemplating ordering from US but with the possible need for another power adapter and lack of warranty, I was looking for local alternatives.

The indication discounted price for the X700 should be below $380. So one has to decide whether the $100 plus more is worth for warranty and a local power adapter.

Everyone has different risk appetite for non local sets.

Pretty expensive

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B078HXF9H2/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B078HXF9H2/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER)

Take into account the shipping etc. still only comes out to about SGD250 from Amazon
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on May 08, 2018, 15:13
Pretty expensive

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B078HXF9H2/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B078HXF9H2/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER)

Take into account the shipping etc. still only comes out to about SGD250 from Amazon
There's no point comparing bro. You can see that many things including TVs are cheaper there.
Just be happy that some items can be imported.
But we don't know if it's 220V compatible.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: etnt on May 08, 2018, 15:41
gb for x700?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audiolab on May 08, 2018, 16:21
So far my research online is that its not compatible for the power brick. However, as long as one is hero enough to try, can always go ahead to plug it in.

However, I believe a 100+ premium is worth for the piece of mind on the power brick plus local warranty.

I remember bro Audio mentioning about possible DOA for another model like X800 for Amazon orders. Imagine you kenna that and no way to get Amazon to resend another unit, then its $250 down the drain.

So let your own risk appetite determine local or overseas X700.

There's no point comparing bro. You can see that many things including TVs are cheaper there.
Just be happy that some items can be imported.
But we don't know if it's 220V compatible.

Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audiolab on May 08, 2018, 20:25
I think its not 100% accurate on for Sony being sold in Amazon website since the X800 is stated the same and yet can work locally. However, my research shows that the X700 is indeed US Spec power which is 110/120.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on May 12, 2018, 17:06
The Panasonic 9000 looks like a proper Oppo competitor ..
Solid build and quality parts.
Releasing in Europe in August.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on May 12, 2018, 17:08
Hmm... When time comes, I wonder can order thru Amazon Germany for free shipping...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: ngsk on May 13, 2018, 09:13
The Panasonic 9000 looks like a proper Oppo competitor ..
Solid build and quality parts.
Releasing in Europe in August.

But can't play sacd & dvd-audio disc or digital file to my understanding.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on May 15, 2018, 17:08
4k with multi-region hackability on both BD & DVD
(http://universal88.com/up_img/products/2681_8b116409bed10f1d0ca89da3c4f3f329_s.jpg)
https://www.buyoyo.com/buyoyo/eng/ProductDisplay.do?prrfnbr=11578024&prtype=17
https://www.price.com.hk/category.php?c=100045&brand=Giec&filter=100535

unfortunately, export information not provided...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Amon86 on May 16, 2018, 14:14
The Panasonic 9000 looks like a proper Oppo competitor ..
Solid build and quality parts.
Releasing in Europe in August.

Panasonic using EI transformer than Oppo's toroidal transformer
I do feel Oppo still the best out there i got myself a 205 even though was the last batch already
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CBA6vzbwcc
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on May 27, 2018, 05:19
https://shopee.sg/Panasonic-Ultra-HD-Blu-Ray-DVD-Player-DMP-UB400GAK-i.53579328.876049855

Somebody brought in the UB400 for PANASONIC fan boyz!!! But using the same list price as X700... I'm not buying into that!
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on May 27, 2018, 06:10
...I do feel Oppo still the best out there i got myself a 205 even though was the last batch already
Well... if u find that the price of OPPO is "opportunist" expensive... There's always another OEM model available...
https://www.lazada.sg/products/cambridge-audio-cxu-hd-4k-uhd-universal-blu-ray-i128708905-s146862471.html?spm=a2o42.searchlistcategory.list.50.39ce6376RA8O0v&search=1
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Amon86 on May 27, 2018, 11:39
Well... if u find that the price of OPPO is "opportunist" expensive... There's always another OEM model available...
https://www.lazada.sg/products/cambridge-audio-cxu-hd-4k-uhd-universal-blu-ray-i128708905-s146862471.html?spm=a2o42.searchlistcategory.list.50.39ce6376RA8O0v&search=1

Actually cambridge audio support quite bad......my 851N app on my phone after update their ca connect the volume section decrease button can't press i must mute the player then increase volume from there.....i tried asking their customer support for help if i am able to get back the previous version of the app....the person insist in my network issue or my phone....i got an ipad running the older version it does works.....for network i sure no problem my naim is working flawlessly....very disappointed by this
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on July 14, 2018, 05:12
Good news for Xbox users:
https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2018/07/11/new-preview-1810-system-update/
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: landis1 on July 18, 2018, 12:13
the price for this player the philip BDP7502 has dropped to all time low of us$150 and with shipping of only s$240. very value for money. this is one of the few models with an aluminium casing. grab it now while the price lasts ;D

oh this player has dolby vision and atmos. it is lacking a bit in bells and whistles, loading time is slow but this is a great budget player for your spare room ;D

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B073P7KY1Y/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61PTyJXC1BL._SL1500_.jpg)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on July 19, 2018, 15:05
Nice price indeed, but the implementation of DV is still tenuous, so if you have a Sony TV, make sure the player can send the proper profile 5 signal to the TV.
OLED LG TVs use a different profile and can show DV using more varieties of players. Always check..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: DJQ on August 08, 2018, 23:43
https://ce-pro.eu/news/home-cinema/pioneer-unveils-its-first-4k-blu-ray-player-the-udp-lx500/

Wait until so long still no news...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: in1voice on August 09, 2018, 00:12
https://ce-pro.eu/news/home-cinema/pioneer-unveils-its-first-4k-blu-ray-player-the-udp-lx500/

Wait until so long still no news...

Japanese companies are not what they used to be. Look at the Korean TVs and handphones. Even the Chinese handphones. Their models come out so fast and hi-tech. Only Sony is still fast and innovative, but mainly their cameras.

And why is Creative taking so long with their Super x-fi stuff? Announced almost 6 months ago.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: rayleh on September 01, 2018, 19:05
I believe some of the forumers are using Xbox One S or X as a UHD and media player. Any opinion if there is any difference between S and X for these 2 functionalities? Of course if into 4K gaming then X will definitively be the one.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on September 01, 2018, 19:31
Xbox use's a software based bluray/uhd app...
the drive is hardware based.
so in actual fact, both the "s" or "x" make no difference for movie playback.
only difference is the "chip" that is totally redesigned for game's.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on September 01, 2018, 19:33
if u don't download the "Blu-ray app" both Xbox can't play any disc's except games.
even the "Atmos" decoding u have to download the Dolby app to enable Atmos decoding.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: rayleh on September 01, 2018, 22:38
Thanks bro, I am aware of that. Just wondering if S and X will have any diff as the price is quite a diff too.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on September 01, 2018, 22:55
it's the "Chip"...
CPU...
that's the difference only..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: ngsk on September 03, 2018, 07:27
For those who are interested on the Pioneer UDP-LX500 here is the specs/price for US model: https://www.pioneerelectronics.com/ephox/StaticFiles/PUSA/Files/Home/Elite_UDP-LX500@180815_HR.pdf
https://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Home/Blu-ray-Disc/Elite-Blu-ray-Disc-Players/UDP-LX500
From the back panel photo it only have stereo rca analog output.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: DJQ on September 03, 2018, 08:57
SG sure sell at $1.8k  :-X
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: InnocentBlood on September 03, 2018, 10:52
For those who are interested on the Pioneer UDP-LX500 here is the specs/price for US model: https://www.pioneerelectronics.com/ephox/StaticFiles/PUSA/Files/Home/Elite_UDP-LX500@180815_HR.pdf
https://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Home/Blu-ray-Disc/Elite-Blu-ray-Disc-Players/UDP-LX500
From the back panel photo it only have stereo rca analog output.

nice to see DVD-A and SACD support. perhaps there will be another model with HDMI Input, XLR outputs and USB DAC Input. that would truly render the Oppo 205 obsolete :p
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on September 03, 2018, 10:56
the only brand i know of that is a exact copy of oppo, is Cambridge Audio....
only thing is that they haven't copied the oppo 205... the oppo 203 is already copied by them.
if they can do it, i am sure there will be "XLR" outputs too..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on September 03, 2018, 10:59
and since pioneer has been acquired by onkyo, i am pretty sure onkyo will better the pioneer set.
pioneer will always play 2nd fiddle to onkyo.
marketing strategy.
the the Avr's from pioneer n onkyo..
so similar but always losing out by a notch..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: ngsk on September 03, 2018, 11:37
nice to see DVD-A and SACD support. perhaps there will be another model with HDMI Input, XLR outputs and USB DAC Input. that would truly render the Oppo 205 obsolete :p

For me the missing of the multi-ch analog output is a no go as I listen to multi-ch dvd-audio wav file & dsd file,all directly from hdd connected to OPPO 205 usb port analog out to power amps.What file format are supported on hdd playback is yet to be confirm on the LX500 also.
Maybe the higher end model from Pioneer will be like the 205,only time will tell.
Edit:a closer look at the remote show that it don't have vol. control also.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on September 03, 2018, 16:03
For me the missing of the multi-ch analog output is a no go as I listen to multi-ch dvd-audio wav file & dsd file。。。
I keep going to Mustafa to check out any new models from PANASONIC comes ashore yet... WahLauEhh... isn't UB820 and it's sibling UB420 supposedly to be released oredi???
Thailand oredi gets UB320 and UB400 liaoz...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: keai on September 03, 2018, 20:39
finally hoot my xbox one x tonight, hope i can enjoy this new toy...(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180903/7841359417629681f473b4d734f74be4.jpg)

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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: rayleh on September 03, 2018, 20:55
May hoot one too soon as I also play some games occasionally. Only thing holding me is bcos I have PS4 and I m on the streaming route.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: DJQ on September 05, 2018, 11:23
finally hoot my xbox one x tonight, hope i can enjoy this new toy...(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180903/7841359417629681f473b4d734f74be4.jpg)

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whats the bundle deal now? $599?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Vinylfan on September 07, 2018, 08:46
For those who are interested on the Pioneer UDP-LX500 here is the specs/price for US model: https://www.pioneerelectronics.com/ephox/StaticFiles/PUSA/Files/Home/Elite_UDP-LX500@180815_HR.pdf
https://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Home/Blu-ray-Disc/Elite-Blu-ray-Disc-Players/UDP-LX500
From the back panel photo it only have stereo rca analog output.
looks nice. is it in Singapore yet?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on September 07, 2018, 12:55
http://www.youtube.com/v/Wfzl3D740-U&fs=1
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: DJQ on September 11, 2018, 11:25
https://www.cambridgeaudio.com/en/products/cx/cxuhd

Can we discuss other brands here. So anyone got this yet? Lazada selling $1399.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: keai on September 11, 2018, 12:12
whats the bundle deal now? $599?
sorry bro, missed out this post, yes, i got it at 599

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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on September 11, 2018, 16:40
The question is do we keep it simple, or get a really fancy player.. say pay under 300 for a basic DV capable player, then get a decent CD player with the rest of the budget... food for thought.
Not all companies offer the same support that Oppo did. Maybe it’s hard to do so, and the cost has forced Oppo out of the business..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: rayleh on September 11, 2018, 17:15
Just bought an Xbox too as a 4k Bluray Player.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: reno77 on September 11, 2018, 18:45
Just bought an Xbox too as a 4k Bluray Player.

How's the operation? Is the fan noisy when using as a blu-ray player..thought of getting a xbox one s from carousell for $300+ to use as a 4k bluray player.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on September 11, 2018, 19:00
I had given the xbox a consideration before... But after hearing my colleague claims that the player cannot handle DVDs... I stepped back. Or else i could be using the "GEARs of WAR" special edition one lo...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on September 11, 2018, 19:01
how come cannot handle DVD?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on September 11, 2018, 19:03
Dunno ley... My colleague nvr give more in details... urs can do multicode?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on September 11, 2018, 19:45
DVD n Blu-ray cannot multicode..
only 4K discs have no region lock.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on September 11, 2018, 22:35
No wonder... Well... For multicode DVD playback... I guess its back to Philips again!
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: keai on September 12, 2018, 00:03
Just bought an Xbox too as a 4k Bluray Player.
congrats bro, you get x or s?

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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: keai on September 12, 2018, 00:04


I had given the xbox a consideration before... But after hearing my colleague claims that the player cannot handle DVDs... I stepped back. Or else i could be using the "GEARs of WAR" special edition one lo...

you mean DVD or non-4k bluray DVD bro? it can handle the latter, and no one watches DVD (non-bluray) nowadays right?

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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on September 12, 2018, 08:28
Yup... My guess tallies with ur first point... Maybe the new gen xbox doesnt support DVD from other regions...
Other region non-4k BD can? Swee!!!
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on September 12, 2018, 11:24
For the Xbox One "S" or "X"

1) DVD's No Multiregion

2) Bluray's No Multiregion

3) 4K UHD's, Yes Multiregion
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: keai on September 12, 2018, 12:59
Yup... My guess tallies with ur first point... Maybe the new gen xbox doesnt support DVD from other regions...
Other region non-4k BD can? Swee!!!
i only tested one bluray (non-4k) bought from Amazon US, i dont have other region bluray

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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: iceblade88 on September 14, 2018, 16:18
i only tested one bluray (non-4k) bought from Amazon US, i dont have other region bluray

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Guys. Any av quality difference between S and  X for  4K movie bluray and bluray upscale ?

I have PS and switch so gaming is bonus.

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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: keai on September 14, 2018, 18:34
Guys. Any av quality difference between S and  X for  4K movie bluray and bluray upscale ?

I have PS and switch so gaming is bonus.

Cheers


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my understand is no diff on bluray playback quality

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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on September 16, 2018, 09:55
This might be the cheapest player right now :
https://www.amazon.com/Sanyo-Ultra-Blu-Ray-Player/dp/B07931LR92
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: iceblade88 on September 16, 2018, 11:03
my understand is no diff on bluray playback quality

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Thanks. I am gonna wait for black Friday and see. :)


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: bluepill193 on September 16, 2018, 12:25
For me the missing of the multi-ch analog output is a no go as I listen to multi-ch dvd-audio wav file & dsd file,all directly from hdd connected to OPPO 205 usb port analog out ....
Bro you don't use any eq to calibrate multichannel?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: cstanxpl on September 27, 2018, 14:19
WHF? Panasonic DP-UB9000 review

https://www.whathifi.com/reviews/panasonic-dp-ub9000-review
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: shsoh on September 27, 2018, 15:31
Where can we purchase the Panasonic UB9000 in Singapore?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on September 27, 2018, 19:28
Stocks in Australia supposed to be in November.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: shsoh on September 28, 2018, 10:06
Stocks in Australia supposed to be in November.

That would mean that standard blu ray will be Region B coded?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on September 28, 2018, 10:32
That would mean that standard blu ray will be Region B coded?
Yep
You can order a Laser brand region free player or just keep a local BR player too.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on September 28, 2018, 11:09
Buying a high end UHD player just to play BD seems counter productive :)

The Laser at $99 in most places here is the go to for multi region BD playback.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: mikeang88 on September 30, 2018, 11:22
Hi Bro Cash,

I just started using the xbox1s as my UHD player. It shows as Atmos. What app do i need to run atmos? I already downloaded the BR player.

Thanks

if u don't download the "Blu-ray app" both Xbox can't play any disc's except games.
even the "Atmos" decoding u have to download the Dolby app to enable Atmos decoding.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: keai on September 30, 2018, 11:30
Hi Bro Cash,

I just started using the xbox1s as my UHD player. It shows as Atmos. What app do i need to run atmos? I already downloaded the BR player.

Thanks
search "atmos" app bro

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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: rayleh on September 30, 2018, 14:18
It is the Dolby app. You need to install it before it can support Atmos.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on September 30, 2018, 14:43
after downloading the dolby app, u still need one more step.
u need to go to Xbox settings to "Enable" the app.
don't forget this most important step.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: ngsk on October 01, 2018, 07:15
Bro you don't use any eq to calibrate multichannel?

Bro sorry for the late reply as miss out until this 2 days.
Only do subs eq using Antimode DC other than that some basic bass management on the OPPO 205 eg. crossover/spks trim,distant,multi-ch track sounds better to me then their stereo one,but as I said b4 all depend on the recording/mastering.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: ngsk on October 02, 2018, 07:42
Panasonic DP-UB9000 manual can be found here: https://www.panasonicstore.ie/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/DPUB9000.pdf if interested.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on October 02, 2018, 07:55
Panasonic DP-UB9000 manual can be found here: https://www.panasonicstore.ie/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/DPUB9000.pdf if interested.
Thanks bro
The question is when will it come to SG.. and for what price..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: ngsk on October 02, 2018, 08:01
No problem bro.My guess is it's going to be around the $2K mark.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on October 02, 2018, 09:20
http://www.sonicsoundaudio.com/product_info.php?products_id=3084
Region FREE on both DVD and BD @ this price??? Zhun Boh?!! 2nd hand izzit?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on October 02, 2018, 09:29
DVD region free for oppo is done easily with a burned cdr, with the oppo software readily available in the internet.
BluRay region free is done via a internal or external piece of hardware. thats y its operated via the oppo remote control.
4k movie discs, no need any thing as its Not region coded at all....
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on October 02, 2018, 09:31
anyway for the price of $1350, it not cheap...
if i recall correctly the 203 was priced at 1k mark?
i bought mine at less than 1k during the Mass Order done here in XtremePlace.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on October 02, 2018, 09:36
this is the internal hardware chip u attach inside the 203 or 205...(for BluRay region free duties)
i have 2 pieces lying around in my home.
hehehehe!!!
 ;D ;D ;D ;D

(https://i.postimg.cc/yYZpkcLN/IMG20180129135705.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/1fyrdnhx)

(https://i.postimg.cc/pV71WqY7/IMG20180129135718.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/rz19gGHC)

(https://i.postimg.cc/g2bSRj7H/IMG20180129135729.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/kBwvPJq2)

(https://i.postimg.cc/fR7HvZnn/IMG20180129135739.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/MnTbWCpd)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on October 02, 2018, 09:39
installing it into a 203 is super simple!! jus plug into the board n play!!

but try installing it into a 205, now thats a different story altogether!!
because for the 205, u need to remove a hell of a lot of screws n the audio board n stuff....
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on October 02, 2018, 10:18
Sound Affairs selling the 203 for $1050, of course jus plain vanilla set. i assume the price will be higher if u include the JB hack or regular hardware chip hack.(which Sound Affairs does not tell u how much with the hacks included)
so for sonicsoundaudio price of $1350 for the 203, its too high.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on October 02, 2018, 10:41
I was expecting "all break in" set selling in much ketok price...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on October 02, 2018, 11:06
M.O price if I remember correctly was $950+
so at $1350, it's a $400 premium..
at $1050, it's a $100 premium, but dunno the hidden cost with hacks..
as it will not be revealed.
I really don't see the reason y they cannot reveal the price of hacks..
oppo is dead n gone already, so y hide?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on October 02, 2018, 11:15
(https://www.retravision.com.au/media/catalog/product/cache/1/thumbnail/640x480/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/v/i/videoplayback_dpub820_2_med.jpg)

https://www.retravision.com.au/panasonic-dpub820gnk
Australia's price... hopefully when it come to SG, it can be much competitive.

https://www.conrad.com/ce/en/product/1694516/UHD-Blu-ray-player-Panasonic-DP-UB824-4K-upscaling-Wi-Fi-Smart-TV-Amazon-Alexa-support-Google-Assistant-support-Blac?ref=list
Germany's price... ehh... Ships internationally.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on October 02, 2018, 11:17
The Panasonic 9000 is A$1649 RRP.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on October 02, 2018, 11:18
(https://www.retravision.com.au/media/catalog/product/cache/1/thumbnail/640x480/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/v/i/videoplayback_dpub820_2_med.jpg)

https://www.retravision.com.au/panasonic-dpub820gnk
Australia's price... hopefully when it come to SG, it can be much competitive.

https://www.conrad.com/ce/en/product/1694516/UHD-Blu-ray-player-Panasonic-DP-UB824-4K-upscaling-Wi-Fi-Smart-TV-Amazon-Alexa-support-Google-Assistant-support-Blac?ref=list
Germany's price... ehh... Ships internationally.

The 820 RRP is A$649 but you can get them for sub $600 in most places in Australia
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on October 02, 2018, 11:37
I was expecting "all break in" set selling in much ketok price...
Supply and demand I guess. There are sites where Oppo players are sold at 50% over the SRP..
Bear in mind Aussie players are region B for BR discs. And there’s no warranty..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on October 02, 2018, 11:46
Yup... I know... That's why the JBHiFi salesperson seems "upset" when i give up the urge to hoot SONY's X800 when i was there last week. ;D
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on October 04, 2018, 02:50
Oppo vs Panasonic :
https://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/4k-ultra-hd-bluray-players/do-you-still-need-your-oppo-oppo-udp203-vs-panasonic-dpub820-4k-showdown/42557 (https://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/4k-ultra-hd-bluray-players/do-you-still-need-your-oppo-oppo-udp203-vs-panasonic-dpub820-4k-showdown/42557)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on October 04, 2018, 08:26
Oppo vs Panasonic :
https://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/4k-ultra-hd-bluray-players/do-you-still-need-your-oppo-oppo-udp203-vs-panasonic-dpub820-4k-showdown/42557 (https://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/4k-ultra-hd-bluray-players/do-you-still-need-your-oppo-oppo-udp203-vs-panasonic-dpub820-4k-showdown/42557)

Mostly agree with the assessment but with the following caveats:

For projector support, the Panasonic 820 is superior. It handles a much much MUCH MUCH better HDR-SDR conversion (on the Oppo, it apparently switches to Rec709 color space as well!) and it does a superb job working with some dim/Dolby Vision titles that look dismal on the Oppo 203, in fact rivalling the way the Oppo203 looked with DV enabled on the Panasonic 65ZD9. To be honest, I would need that far more than anamorphic lens support (which is something the projector should be delivering).

For app support, I would argue - don't bank too much on the Panasonic. On my Panasonic SmartTV, many of the Smart apps were progressively phased out/not supported over time. The Oppo 103 from earlier is still holding on to the few apps that came with it.

And don't forget Panasonic tends to launch models every year, so expect an 830 or 840 next year with the next latest and greatest so support may not even be as long lived on the 820.

With all that said, I would argue for most of us the UB820 is plenty and I will offer it whole heartedly to anyone who is in the market for a new UHD player (even if you could get the Oppo 203 new without a cutthroat premium).

Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on October 04, 2018, 08:57
The Panasonic 9000 is A$1649 RRP.
Priced too high... Pioneer if come out with something with PANASONIC's key features, will sure make a big stab onto PANASONIC.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on October 04, 2018, 09:27
Personally I used to get an all in one top player which does audio well. These days given the rapid advances in players and the ever evolving state, I buy a more basic player for video and rely on my audio player or a DAC and a transport for music.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: landis1 on October 04, 2018, 09:29
I buy a more basic player for video and rely on my audio player or a DAC and a transport for music.

my sentiments exactly ;D
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on October 04, 2018, 20:13
Priced too high... Pioneer if come out with something with PANASONIC's key features, will sure make a big stab onto PANASONIC.

You do realize the 500 Pioneer is going to be more than the Panasonic. It is US$1099 IIRC. Expected $1799. The LX800 is even pricier.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on October 04, 2018, 21:54
Priced too high... Pioneer if come out with something with PANASONIC's key features, will sure make a big stab onto PANASONIC.
These are the 'audiophile' players..
They are nice for bros who want an all in one solution..
They will also cost more..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on October 04, 2018, 23:18
You do realize the 500 Pioneer is going to be more than the Panasonic. It is US$1099 IIRC. Expected $1799. The LX800 is even pricier.
Remember during laserdisc time? When Pioneer comes out with DVL9, the uber high end player of the players in their product range? They later come out with much "affordable" makes such a DVL-88k as well as 909 n 919.
Then into the DVD period there was this LX1 if i not wrong with the model number... They come out with DV626 to counter other makes in the market.
With Sony n Panasonic as well as the Koreans pricing their UHD players under $500... There may be one under works to draw attentions from videophiles.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on October 04, 2018, 23:39
Remember during laserdisc time? When Pioneer comes out with DVL9, the uber high end player of the players in their product range? They later come out with much "affordable" makes such a DVL-88k as well as 909 n 919.
Then into the DVD period there was this LX1 if i not wrong with the model number... They come out with DV626 to counter other makes in the market.
With Sony n Panasonic as well as the Koreans pricing their UHD players under $500... There may be one under works to draw attentions from videophiles.
Yes bro, there may be one indeed. But then we won't be comparing apples to apples. This Pioneer "lite" will be more like the basic X700 from Sony or the X800..
The higher cost of the 'audiophile' players is due to the more sophisticated audio And video sections.. cheers
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: ngsk on October 05, 2018, 07:09
'Review' from whathifi on DP-UB9000 if interested: https://www.whathifi.com/reviews/panasonic-dp-ub9000-review
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on October 05, 2018, 17:40
Yes bro, there may be one indeed. But then we won't be comparing apples to apples. This Pioneer "lite" will be more like the basic X700 from Sony or the X800..
The higher cost of the 'audiophile' players is due to the more sophisticated audio And video sections.. cheers
Yes... i understand that with the upgrade of DACs on both the Audio and Video field processing components... certainly the price will go up. However, what i was referring to... are the possibility of "common grade" players like x700 or UB820, although latter comes with full digital surround process and decoding. In the end, most consumers will rely on the other hardwares/gears for Audio processing while feeding Video output from players straight to the monitors. Right? ;D
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on October 05, 2018, 19:37
True bro 👍
Let us know what will you get ?
I suspect we will see more players as more non audiophile Singaporeans buy 4k TVs.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on October 05, 2018, 20:57
Which ever comes with multichannel audio output as well as multiregion with DVD playback, good deal on price. $600 is the max i can go for common grade.
$800 for upgraded stuff.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on October 06, 2018, 12:27
Yes... i understand that with the upgrade of DACs on both the Audio and Video field processing components... certainly the price will go up. However, what i was referring to... are the possibility of "common grade" players like x700 or UB820, although latter comes with full digital surround process and decoding. In the end, most consumers will rely on the other hardwares/gears for Audio processing while feeding Video output from players straight to the monitors. Right? ;D

If you are using HDMI and have a full HDCP/HDMI system that is fully up to date - it would be quite counter productive to run dual HDMI to the AVR when you have to deal with lip sync delays.

For the record, if the UB820 at sub $600 is too expensive, Panasonic also makes the 420 and even lower models. 420 loses Dolby Vision
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on October 06, 2018, 16:55
talk abt upgrades
http://www.youtube.com/v/pz8m4hrkukw&fs=1
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on October 12, 2018, 15:50
Panasonic drops further on their entry lvl player to compete with SONY...
https://www.jbhifi.com.au/tv-home-entertainment/players-recorders/panasonic/panasonic-dp-ub420-smart-4k-ultra-hd-blu-ray-player/338135/
...yet...we have to LLST on the Panasonic's SG decision not to bring in any new gen format players into the market!
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: CASH on October 12, 2018, 16:41
XBOX ONE S/X makes more sense to buy now as a 4K player..
the latest Dolby Vision update for it, has made it the cheapest option n value for money player now.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Vinylfan on October 20, 2018, 13:09
Anyone knows whether the new Panasonic players already in SG?


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on October 20, 2018, 18:32
We may hv to buy Panasonic UHD/BDPlayer products from overseas in the future liaoz... I was told by a sales fella from BD, Panasonic gave up media player market in SG liaoz.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Vinylfan on October 20, 2018, 18:40
We may hv to buy Panasonic UHD/BDPlayer products from overseas in the future liaoz... I was told by a sales fella from BD, Panasonic gave up media player market in SG liaoz.
If so it would be a pity. The Panasonic seems like a great player.


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on October 20, 2018, 19:11
Panasonic products always quite competitive to other makes in the market when it comes to specs n performance. But when it comes to price... Duh...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: ngsk on October 27, 2018, 09:03
DAC chip used in different brands 4k players: https://i.postimg.cc/8zTV27F1/96-FF4187-7-CC9-47-BA-BE36-C7-AA59-BB234-E.png


Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: ngsk on October 27, 2018, 09:07
Another review on the Panasonic DP-UB9000 by avforums: https://www.avforums.com/review/panasonic-dp-ub9000-review.15435
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on October 28, 2018, 23:49
LG UBK80,90 is listed in SG LG website. But no stores carry the stocks wor!!!
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Vinylfan on October 29, 2018, 19:12
Another review on the Panasonic DP-UB9000 by avforums: https://www.avforums.com/review/panasonic-dp-ub9000-review.15435
Where to buy?


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: ngsk on October 29, 2018, 19:35
No sure it's coming as even US also no confirm got it. Only Europe confirm releasing.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on November 04, 2018, 15:42
Another review on the Panasonic DP-UB9000 by avforums: https://www.avforums.com/review/panasonic-dp-ub9000-review.15435
It gets more depressing to some here when Panasonic Australia gives a coming soon update...
https://www.panasonic.com/au/consumer/home-entertainment/blu-ray-and-dvd-players/dp-ub9000.html
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on November 04, 2018, 17:05
If Pioneer claims the number 1 spot on producing the best video hardware in this UHD time, Panasonic pushed up by consumers to take number 2, where's the 3rd "P"(philips)?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on November 04, 2018, 17:19
It gets more depressing to some here when Panasonic Australia gives a coming soon update...
https://www.panasonic.com/au/consumer/home-entertainment/blu-ray-and-dvd-players/dp-ub9000.html
Our market is simply too small.. so many people are still watching dvds..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on November 04, 2018, 18:12
I want to make a big jump also bueysai... No wonder i failed moi IPPT!
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Vinylfan on November 04, 2018, 18:35
It gets more depressing to some here when Panasonic Australia gives a coming soon update...
https://www.panasonic.com/au/consumer/home-entertainment/blu-ray-and-dvd-players/dp-ub9000.html
Let’s hope some smart dealers here will bring it in.


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: DJQ on November 04, 2018, 23:25
I was told MOQ 100 sets... unless dealers can come together. Wondering if big players Courts, Havey Norman, Best will order...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on November 06, 2018, 02:12
Base on the current sale price, the 2 "budget friendly" UHD players r... Both from Courts.
XBox S going @ $359 with built in 500gb HDD
Sony x700 @ $314

Both not multi-regioned for DVD playback.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Takeshi18 on November 06, 2018, 21:29
Lazada: Sony X700 . https://www.lazada.sg/products/i234525827-s359431425.html?spm=a2o42.cart.0.0.14c57a93osA1mv&urlFlag=true&mp=1

$310 + $1.49 shipping.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on November 10, 2018, 00:15
Mustafa latest @ $280!
Maybe a sign that something coming?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: whitesox on November 10, 2018, 09:36
Mustafa latest @ $280!
Maybe a sign that something coming?

Wuih lucky me, i read this info... thanks to u.
Some one is selling used this player at
$260
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Vinylfan on November 11, 2018, 14:30
Parisilk sells for around $320


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on November 11, 2018, 14:33
Let Parisilk know... Their price cannot save a bowl of beef noodle for lunch with the offer from ToaPayoh Courts offer @ $314. ;)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Vinylfan on November 11, 2018, 20:18
Don’t know if this model is good enough for 4K or have to spend another $1000 more for the high end Pioneer and Panasonic.


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on November 11, 2018, 20:38
Don’t know if this model is good enough for 4K or have to spend another $1000 more for the high end Pioneer and Panasonic.

That depends a lot on your requirements. Video only or audio as well.
A basic 4k player playing 4k discs will still be better than an expensive full HD only audiophile BR player.
If you want an all in one unit for music and video, then be prepared to pay more. O
Or get one 4k player for your video, and a good CD / SACD player. It may prove to be more economical...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Vinylfan on November 11, 2018, 20:56
That depends a lot on your requirements. Video only or audio as well.
A basic 4k player playing 4k discs will still be better than an expensive full HD only audiophile BR player.
If you want an all in one unit for music and video, then be prepared to pay more. O
Or get one 4k player for your video, and a good CD / SACD player. It may prove to be more economical...
I have an OPPO 105D. Just need a good 4K player with all the new video features like Dolby Vision, HDR 10 etc from what I read. I have a separate CD/SACD player. 4K player just for video.


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on November 13, 2018, 20:31
I have an OPPO 105D. Just need a good 4K player with all the new video features like Dolby Vision, HDR 10 etc from what I read. I have a separate CD/SACD player. 4K player just for video.

There you go bro, you already have a checklist of specs you want, and many of the basic players have them. Cheers
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Vinylfan on November 15, 2018, 21:02
 I got myself a Sony X700. 4K disc playback looks great. Unfortunately it does not seem to be able to play my BDMV movie files stored on hard disk.


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: HT102 on December 02, 2018, 09:18
Hi, I am thinking of getting an Xbox One X to use primarily as a UHD player with my Sony 4K TV.

I read that it had many issues in the past and some seems to have been fixed by firmware updates. Would appreciate any advice if it currently has any issue with the support Dolby Atmos and Dolby Vision? Thanks!

Oops! Found the dedicated Xbox One S/X thread. Will post there instead.

Ref: http://www.xtremeplace.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=277496.0 (http://www.xtremeplace.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=277496.0)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: kikoman on December 09, 2018, 20:00
Anyone heard about the Japanese limited edition UB9000? It’s no ordinary ub9000.
https://panasonic.jp/bdplayer/products/ub9000.html
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on December 09, 2018, 23:26
Technics name keep mentioned... Although I HV no idea what the Japanese words meant. Perhaps they trying to indicate that the audio section tuned by Technics?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on December 12, 2018, 12:14
Hmmm... If spending approximately $1.6k for a UHD player just to play 4k disc...
https://www.westcoasthifi.com.au/product/panasonic-dp-ub9000-ultra-hd-blu-ray-player/
https://www.sotel.de/en/TV-Heimkino/DVD-Blu-ray-Player-Recorder/BluRay-Player/Panasonic-DP-UB9004EGK-black.html
...lots of PANNY interest bros here may not be able to stomach the playing capability limitation.

But when we compare the built to the already available Pioneer LX500...
(https://www.valueelectronics.com/images/albums/NewAlbum_18d93/tn_480_290c0681fde23fb3f870687e2aace486.jpg.png)
...burb... ;)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on December 13, 2018, 07:07
The Pioneer doesn’t have multichannel analog out :(
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: DJQ on December 13, 2018, 10:41
Technics name keep mentioned... Although I HV no idea what the Japanese words meant. Perhaps they trying to indicate that the audio section tuned by Technics?
Remember long ago in Japan, National Panasonic Technics. its 1 large Matsushita corporation dealing with 3 different major home brands.
Technics dept being the more precision team on Audio section. i remember i got a Technics Discman made in Japan years ago.

now the whole Japanese corporation have renamed themselves PANASONIC. as this is the name that almost everybody can relate to being the best known house brand it is today.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: DJQ on December 13, 2018, 10:46
Hmmm... If spending approximately $1.6k for a UHD player just to play 4k disc...
https://www.westcoasthifi.com.au/product/panasonic-dp-ub9000-ultra-hd-blu-ray-player/
https://www.sotel.de/en/TV-Heimkino/DVD-Blu-ray-Player-Recorder/BluRay-Player/Panasonic-DP-UB9004EGK-black.html
...lots of PANNY interest bros here may not be able to stomach the playing capability limitation.

But when we compare the built to the already available Pioneer LX500...
(https://www.valueelectronics.com/images/albums/NewAlbum_18d93/tn_480_290c0681fde23fb3f870687e2aace486.jpg.png)
...burb... ;)
woah... looks premium. so locally nobody sells? then how we buy?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: kikoman on December 18, 2018, 21:10
The Japan limited model is a hefty 12.5kg compare to the overseas model 7.8kg. Even the dac chip is better. AKM 4497 vs 4493. I will check if we can change the language to English tomorrow. I m in Tokyo at the moment.
https://www.phileweb.com/sp/news/d-av/201811/13/45636.html
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on December 18, 2018, 21:51
woah... looks premium. so locally nobody sells? then how we buy?
Australia?
Take a trip to Perth...
MO ... those were the days...
How many of us were involved in importing HD DVD players from USA :)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on December 18, 2018, 21:58
1495$:
https://www.videopro.com.au/p-12100-panasonic-dpub9000gnk-uhd-blu-ray-player.aspx
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on December 31, 2018, 12:52
Ooooh...SOLID!!!
http://www.youtube.com/v/RT9YOB33Pic&fs=1
U.S selling USD1k?!!
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Vinylfan on January 01, 2019, 17:04
1495$:
https://www.videopro.com.au/p-12100-panasonic-dpub9000gnk-uhd-blu-ray-player.aspx
But no local warranty if buy from overseas?


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on January 01, 2019, 17:16
Buy/Import from overseas already get it warranty void. Unless sellers willing to honor their in house warranty lo...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Vinylfan on January 01, 2019, 18:50
The Panasonic 9000 has great reviews. I hope some dealer will bring it in.


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on January 01, 2019, 18:52
Yeah lo... But also must backed with good aftersales warranty as well... Got multicode on DVD lagi best!!!
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Vinylfan on January 01, 2019, 18:54
AUD 1450.
https://www.westcoasthifi.com.au/product/panasonic-dp-ub9000-ultra-hd-blu-ray-player/


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on January 01, 2019, 19:00
After tax claim... Less than $1k??? WahLaoEhh... My leave available low ley... Cannot fly there to hoot!
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: c722 on January 01, 2019, 20:47
How many of us were involved in importing HD DVD players from USA :)

I did the HD-XE1 !

Any one with good connections can organize a MO ?  or better still , convince local Panasonic reps to sell it here... ?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on January 01, 2019, 21:26
I honestly don’t see much value in getting the Panasonic 9000.

It isn’t a universal player - so IMHO the AKM4493 is kinda wasted. You only get good stereo performance from CDs and Stereo BluRay Audio. Not from DVD Audio or SACDs.

Also AFAIK it doesn’t have a volume control so I don’t believe you can replace an AVR and use it as an HDMI switch/processor direct to power amps (like you could with the Oppo 205)

The key technology on this new series is the video processing and auto tone mapping especially with lower luminance projectors.

And you get the same video processing on the 820.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on January 01, 2019, 22:16
I honestly don’t see much value in getting the Panasonic 9000.

It isn’t a universal player - so IMHO the AKM4493 is kinda wasted. You only get good stereo performance from CDs and Stereo BluRay Audio. Not from DVD Audio or SACDs.

Also AFAIK it doesn’t have a volume control so I don’t believe you can replace an AVR and use it as an HDMI switch/processor direct to power amps (like you could with the Oppo 205)

The key technology on this new series is the video processing and auto tone mapping especially with lower luminance projectors.

And you get the same video processing on the 820.

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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on January 01, 2019, 22:37
Might be better to get a cheaper 4k player and a nice CD / SACD player instead of an all in one..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on January 01, 2019, 22:43
The Pioneer LX500 is another halfway alternative.

It has the AKM4490 and is a universal player but it only has stereo RCA out. No balanced. No 7.1 analog out.

Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: c722 on January 01, 2019, 22:59
Yes the LX500 is a worthy contender; has it been tested on the chroma upsampling resolution and HDR tone mapping/"optimizer" functionality ? (btw I'm only looking at this for video).

I value build quality a lot.  The way how the chasis is formed, how the loader is placed, how the heat is routed, etc, is more than just assembling a few boards together.  There have long been assertions that a stable disc loader leads to precision in transport even for digital media.  signal interference happens all the time at board level.  Proper engineering design aims to minimize it.  I'm a firm believer in this.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: DJQ on January 02, 2019, 22:53
Yes the LX500 is a worthy contender; has it been tested on the chroma upsampling resolution and HDR tone mapping/"optimizer" functionality ? (btw I'm only looking at this for video).

I value build quality a lot.  The way how the chasis is formed, how the loader is placed, how the heat is routed, etc, is more than just assembling a few boards together.  There have long been assertions that a stable disc loader leads to precision in transport even for digital media.  signal interference happens all the time at board level.  Proper engineering design aims to minimize it.  I'm a firm believer in this.
+10
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on January 03, 2019, 08:11
A customer of mine bought the Panasonic 9000 from another store - mine hasn’t arrived.

He says he prefers the audio quality from his Onkyo 906 over HDMI from the 9000
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on January 03, 2019, 09:05
Actually for those who are keen on the audiophile all in one machine, it seems that the Oppo is still the market leader.. with the recent update, it's still a viable competitor.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on January 03, 2019, 09:14
Media format wise... yes... the OPPO is still the best out there... undeniably.
Even if Yamaha n Denon n Marantz were to come out with their highest end player, those SINO-JAP makes couldn't beat the Chinese when it comes to media compatibility.

However... when price and budget kicks in, at this moment, PANASONIC UB9k beats the general electronic marques out there in terms of construction, video processing, and... the price. Sony UBP1k is the highest end make from Sony, but not on video, except for their pros on SACD compatibility.

Only if PHILIPS can come out with something premium to compete in the game...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: c722 on January 03, 2019, 12:16
Actually for those who are keen on the audiophile all in one machine, it seems that the Oppo is still the market leader.. with the recent update, it's still a viable competitor.

well the Pioneer LX800 could beat Oppo for 2 channel.  Look at its mechanical built (and the ESS ES9026PRO) :

https://www.playit.hk/20181022-pioneer_lx800/

(This should be available locally. $$$)

HDR tone mapping/"optimizer" aside, the problem with oppo (video wise) is the chroma resolution.  The pioneer/panny all tested to have better chroma channel than oppo.  This seems to be hardware limited (2 tap vs multi tap)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on January 03, 2019, 17:59
I just discovered that I have a bunch of SACD-R which I had pressed in the past when I still have the Oppo. Now cannot play liao.

I wonder is there any other alternative that I can still playback the hybrid SACD variant? Any ideas? Anyone?



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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on January 04, 2019, 09:06
Best is to use JRiver to play the ISO
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: kikoman on January 04, 2019, 09:11
Just got the UB9000 at a reasonable price. Will try when i get home tomorrow.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on January 04, 2019, 09:31
Best is to use JRiver to play the ISO
If possible, I try not to go the PC route.

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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Vinylfan on January 04, 2019, 15:22
Just got the UB9000 at a reasonable price. Will try when i get home tomorrow.
Where to buy in Spore?


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on January 04, 2019, 15:48
Just got the UB9000 at a reasonable price. Will try when i get home tomorrow.
If u buy from the carousell fella... u might have been tio ketok liaoz...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on January 05, 2019, 06:40
I just discovered that I have a bunch of SACD-R which I had pressed in the past when I still have the Oppo. Now cannot play liao.

I wonder is there any other alternative that I can still playback the hybrid SACD variant? Any ideas? Anyone?



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I think my old Pioneer 450? Could play SACD ISOs? But not sure if you can still find them.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on January 05, 2019, 07:19
I think my old Pioneer 450? Could play SACD ISOs? But not sure if you can still find them.

Yes doggie.  During that “era”, Pioneer BDP-450 was one of the few Blu-ray players besides Oppo BDP 93/95 iirc that can playback this hybrids format. Back then, the most popular one that started it all is PS3 which can read a SACD and also double up as a SACD-ripper. Cool. But subsequent firmware updates eliminated that feature. Then it find it’s way to Blu-ray players.

If I searched hard enough, still can find bah.



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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: kikoman on January 05, 2019, 15:38
If u buy from the carousell fella... u might have been tio ketok liaoz...
If u buy from the carousell fella... u might have been tio ketok liaoz...

Oh I see. I hand carry back from Australia.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Vinylfan on January 06, 2019, 09:37
Oh I see. I hand carry back from Australia.
Congrats. That is awesome! Please share your feedback after set up. Any concerns with local warranty?


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on January 06, 2019, 11:54
One thing that stops consumers buying from overseas is always on after sales warranty... Majority of electronic products doesn't carry international warranty... Except Philips TV with only 1yr...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on January 06, 2019, 13:08
Congrats. That is awesome! Please share your feedback after set up. Any concerns with local warranty?


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Err bro, what local warranty :D
You should have seen what we did in the good old days, importing HD DVD players ourselves and even getting voltage transformers to use them locally.
Now those were the early adopter days..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on January 06, 2019, 13:23
Err bro, what local warranty :D
You should have seen what we did in the good old days, importing HD DVD players ourselves and even getting voltage transformers to use them locally.
Now those were the early adopter days..

Buying electronics from overseas always inevitably involved a level of risk of some form like defects or worse D.O.A. Over the years, I have had bought many tablets, laptops and electronic gadgets from Amazon and Lazada to be shipped over and fingers crossed, so far so good.

Personally I found that many Singaporeans these days (myself included) are not not too concern about warranty when buying stuff from overseas. It is no longer a deciding factor for me (at least). The reason I bought is simply because Singapore has no dealership for that products and no interest at all by the manufacturers to bring in a particular model. Take Huawei for instance, their weird marketing logic has it that only certain modes of the tablets will be sold in Singapore and elsewhere in Asia. The most ridiculous one is the Huawei tablet M5 lite (sold exclusively in Singapore) while the other model, the M5 and M5 Pro (sold exclusively in Malaysia). The warranty is tie to the country of origin where the stocks are sold even though Singapore and Malaysia are so close and linked by a causeway. 



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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: cstanxpl on January 09, 2019, 11:22
Sony X800M2 (with DV but no HDR10+ confirmed).

https://www.whathifi.com/news/sony-introduces-budget-4k-blu-ray-player-and-atmos-soundbar-for-2019

Hope US version same like previous X800, can also accept 230V.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: DJQ on January 09, 2019, 11:54
eh? i tought HDR10+ more impt than DV?  ???
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on January 09, 2019, 12:30
DV more premium mah... sibeh exclusively/isolated/niche enhancement tech machiam SACD that requires specific players ley...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: DJQ on January 09, 2019, 13:29
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on January 09, 2019, 14:00
DV more premium mah... sibeh exclusively/isolated/niche enhancement tech machiam SACD that requires specific players ley...
Usually got DV, it will come with HDR.


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on February 02, 2019, 12:19
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190202/3749d725dfe27bb1bb08054a3803d6ba.jpg)

Lai Liao
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on February 02, 2019, 12:31
huh? Australia just send the box like this?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on February 02, 2019, 12:44
huh? Australia just send the box like this?
FYI
Bro DH is in Oz...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on February 02, 2019, 12:57
wah lau。。。totally forgotten abt that。。。 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on February 03, 2019, 11:03
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190202/3749d725dfe27bb1bb08054a3803d6ba.jpg)

Lai Liao


Amazon US don't sell this particular model. Dunno how to get one unit of Panasonic UB820 into Singapore liao.

Sigh...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on February 03, 2019, 11:53
German etailer ships to SG. But...Due to shipping charges, total price can easily hit over $700.
Lagi budget friendly compare to CONRAD
https://www.sotel.de/index.php?cl=details&cnid=1483&anid=1000517036&listtype=list&&lang=1
with euro tax 420!!!

Ships to SG!
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on February 03, 2019, 12:02
Amazon US don't sell this particular model. Dunno how to get one unit of Panasonic UB820 into Singapore liao.

Sigh...
MO from Oz? Region B for BR if you don't mind.. but no issues with voltage..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on February 03, 2019, 13:22
Thanks. I think I will wait and see whether Amazon will have stock soon.


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on February 03, 2019, 15:28
from u.s u need additional voltage transformer。from europe n australia,dont
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on February 03, 2019, 22:45
If you need a player this year and want a premium player that isn't an Oppo, this is worth considering.
If you already own a 4k player that works well, why not get an audiophile SACD or CD player?
There's that interesting thing called the 'latest and greatest syndrome' though... which can be a bigger reason ;)

I'm likely to wait until 2020 for a stable HDMI 2.1 player since I have two 4k players already... :)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on February 04, 2019, 07:16
If you need a player this year and want a premium player that isn't an Oppo, this is worth considering.
If you already own a 4k player that works well, why not get an audiophile SACD or CD player?
There's that interesting thing called the 'latest and greatest syndrome' though... which can be a bigger reason ;)

I'm likely to wait until 2020 for a stable HDMI 2.1 player since I have two 4k players already... :)

Hi Pete, the reason I'm looking to get this Panasonic 4k UHD player is solely for its HDR Optimiser feature where other rival players doesn't have. The HDR Optimiser allows me to make objective comparisons for my new JVC N7 projector - particularly the tone-mapping department. I already owned Sony's X700 which can playback SACD. But Panasonic is not making things any easier for Asian customers here as it appears that the models I'm after only appear in the Ang Moh countries :(
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: dsj88 on February 04, 2019, 08:05
Desray, if you are only to use for HDR discs, then it is worthwhile to get from OZ as you don't need to a step down transformer even if the discs are from US. I have a local Panasonic UB900 and it plays at least  95% of US BDs.I guess would be the same for the UB820.

See if these guys will ship to Singapore.

https://www.westcoasthifi.com.au/product/panasonic-dp-ub9000-ultra-hd-blu-ray-player/
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on February 04, 2019, 09:27
I have a few UB820s in the store and I’m going back in April. May be able to fit a few in the suitcase. If you can wait that long.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: dsj88 on February 04, 2019, 10:25
Or he pays for your shipping to Singapore?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on February 04, 2019, 13:35
Any suggested place to get one in Melbourne?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on February 04, 2019, 14:14
Previously when I was in Melbourne city, back in last September, both Harvey n JBHiFi don't have. The salesman there tries to push to me the Sony x800 n 700...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on February 04, 2019, 14:53
So expensive...(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190204/c7fe79844ca5da43fbb9682376f5d2a4.jpg)

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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on February 04, 2019, 15:29
Online in Oz
https://www.melbournehifi.com.au/products/panasonic-dp-ub820-bluray-player
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on February 04, 2019, 15:39
Online in Oz
https://www.melbournehifi.com.au/products/panasonic-dp-ub820-bluray-player

Thanks Pete, that's more reasonable.. :)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: ncw on February 04, 2019, 16:14
So expensive...(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190204/c7fe79844ca5da43fbb9682376f5d2a4.jpg)You can buy from US B&H PHOTO VIDEO at around $730 Sing dollars with shipping fees.

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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on February 04, 2019, 16:20
Yes bro...around the same as import from Germany online e-retailer that another bro posted in this thread. Simply not worth it. Take note, this is NOT even a flagship tier model. Just a mid-ranger. It also doesn't support SACD playback.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on February 04, 2019, 19:21
So expensive...(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190204/c7fe79844ca5da43fbb9682376f5d2a4.jpg)

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USD$700+++!!!
from German etailer maybe more budget friendly。“European workmanship” some more!
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on February 04, 2019, 23:16
Are any of the 4k players in Oz region free for BR / DVD? Thanks
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: ncw on February 04, 2019, 23:26
Are any of the 4k players in Oz region free for BR / DVD? Thanks
I don't think there is region free for Panasonic 4K UHD player.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on February 04, 2019, 23:28
Are any of the 4k players in Oz region free for BR / DVD? Thanks
So far... no... unless the Australian budget brand LASER comes out with 4K player that's totally region free on both format lo... where they currently hv standard BD player nia...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on February 04, 2019, 23:36
I don't think there is region free for Panasonic 4K UHD player.
The Japs are always very... kiahsee one.
That's why i still holding on to my Philips player, although i intend to add a Panasonic non-4k one as a backup support just in case the more than 5yrs old PHILIPS starts to show playability issues.

https://www.laserco.com.au/audio-visual/dvd-and-blu-ray-players
Now only waiting for the Aussie to come out with 4k player that packs also with DV or other HDR...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on February 05, 2019, 01:07
I have a Laser one too, and it uses a Sony transport. Rough remote, but perfectly serviceable.
Good purchase for those who need region B and C playback occasionally..
I also have a region B X700 for DV and for my region B discs.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: yaklibra on February 10, 2019, 11:08
Hi,
Need advise for 4K Blu ray player with analog audio output, don know what to choose,
Was looking at Pioneer LX500, Oppo 203 or Panasonic .

Thank you very much
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on February 10, 2019, 11:32
Hi,
Need advise for 4K Blu ray player with analog audio output, don know what to choose,
Was looking at Pioneer LX500, Oppo 203 or Panasonic .

Thank you very much

Oppo is value for money but no longer in production. But support in terms of firmware releases is STILL top-notch even though the company no longer produce Oppp 4K player. For Pioneer, the mark-up usually quite high but it is also the only "premium" 4K UHD bluray player that can be bought locally as opposed the Panasonic UB9000/820 model.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: yaklibra on February 10, 2019, 20:25
Thks for the info bro
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: cstanxpl on February 12, 2019, 08:25
WHF? Pioneer UDP-LX500 review

https://www.whathifi.com/reviews/pioneer-udp-lx500
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: DJQ on February 12, 2019, 08:33
What the fxxk. Lol. I like.

Pioneer’s premium 4K player delivers a double whammy of superb picture and awesome sound quality. If your system warrants it, buy with confidence.

Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: c722 on February 12, 2019, 21:00
bro the ultimate pioneer premium player is the LX800.  Go check out the reviews.
LX500 is available in HK for a very reasonable price.  Can lug it back if you visit there.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on February 12, 2019, 21:08
I'm still curious: if you are keen on an audiophile player, why not buy up the last few Oppo 205 players?
I don't know if the service and support for the Pioneer will be better. There's also more functionality in the Oppo..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Doggie Howser on February 13, 2019, 10:49
bro the ultimate pioneer premium player is the LX800.  Go check out the reviews.
LX500 is available in HK for a very reasonable price.  Can lug it back if you visit there.

Except the flagship LX800 uses a SABRE chipset which I dont like :) (and it's not even the 9038PRO on the 205)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Boxerfan88 on February 16, 2019, 17:08
Samsung exiting BDP market.

 https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnarcher/2019/02/15/samsung-quits-4k-blu-ray-player-market/ (https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnarcher/2019/02/15/samsung-quits-4k-blu-ray-player-market/)


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on February 16, 2019, 17:11
I'm glad that they exit. Their bluray player never really take off in the first place. So the choice to exit the bluray player market makes perfect sense. Better to spend the R&D money elsewhere.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on February 16, 2019, 17:33
I'm glad that they exit. Their bluray player never really take off in the first place. So the choice to exit the bluray player market makes perfect sense. Better to spend the R&D money elsewhere.


+1.  Piece of crap.

(Audio)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on February 16, 2019, 18:22
now that Philips Audio is taken over by TPVision, hope that they'll jump back into BD game soon...
Title: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on February 17, 2019, 07:41
There is lesser incentives these days for manufacturers to come up with a true universal players that plays SACD and it’s related hybrid formats. With Oppo exiting and now Samsung (not that I really care), I take it as a harbinger of what to expect in the years to come.

On a separate note, Apple’s declining iPhone sales which likely going to push them toward joining the content streaming business and no signs slowing down for Netflix and other streaming service providers like Spotify for instance. I envisioned the future will likely be dominated by streaming over hardware that does the decoding of different formats be it HEVC H.265 or near lossless audio quality formats etc.

When is the last time, we see Denon and Marantz come up with a universal player? Many moons ago. In short, I don’t expect manufacturers to come up with more universal 4K Blu-ray players any time soon. At present, only the new Pioneer LX500 and its higher model can be considered a full fledged universal player, not even the Panasonic UB9000 which focuses primarily on their industry grade video processing (HCX).

If streaming is really going to be the next wave of content distribution and consumption, then we can expect more media box-like hardware can can decode format with more powerful built in multi thread processors. A small box like Apple TV or nvidia shield TV will take centre stage.


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on February 17, 2019, 08:14
Imagine that in future, as streaming becomes the mainstream, the 4K disc and player will be like vinyl.. a reserve for the eclectic and full fledge 11 channel systems become rarer as soundbars take over in our ever smaller homes ...
 :-[
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on February 17, 2019, 08:54
Imagine that in future, as streaming becomes the mainstream, the 4K disc and player will be like vinyl.. a reserve for the eclectic and full fledge 11 channel systems become rarer as soundbars take over in our ever smaller homes ...
 :-[

+1...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: HomeMovie on February 18, 2019, 17:05
my under utilized region free BDX3200 finally can't power up since never use for a year+.
Is there any player that can still get for region free? dun hv to be 4k, as I do not hv a 4k display yet.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on February 18, 2019, 19:50
my under utilized region free BDX3200 finally can't power up since never use for a year+.
Is there any player that can still get for region free? dun hv to be 4k, as I do not hv a 4k display yet.
Google for Laser Region Free Blu Ray Player.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on February 18, 2019, 21:06
region free for DVD yes
region free on BD no
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: HomeMovie on February 19, 2019, 08:55
Google for Laser Region Free Blu Ray Player.

thanks, is it BD3000? searched and read reviews, some says good but some complaint with problems.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on February 19, 2019, 09:10
Made by those kind of company that "produces" cheap players for small brands... one can't expect great IMAGE or Sound qualities from it... built quality also have to be tikam tikam one.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on February 19, 2019, 09:12
It has a Sony mechanism. But YMMV. No issues with mine.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: HomeMovie on February 19, 2019, 22:05
thanks Yang and Pete, maybe the best option is to repair my player since is power issue. But wonder where can I send it.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Norman_Chan on February 21, 2019, 14:21
https://www.afterdawn.com/news/article.cfm/2019/02/18/death-of-blu-ray-is-imminent-ndash-samsung-no-longer-introducing-new-players?utm_source=newsletterENG&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20190220

Is this really coming...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: landis1 on February 21, 2019, 15:21
what ? not again, after the dvd, hd-dvd, etc fiasco. must i resort to video streaming, amazon video download, etc ;D

yes the laser bd3000 bluray player from china and sold in down-under for only around au$100
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Gondon72 on February 21, 2019, 16:21
my under utilized region free BDX3200 finally can't power up since never use for a year+.
Is there any player that can still get for region free? dun hv to be 4k, as I do not hv a 4k display yet.

I think i must go home turn on my sony BD player too.  Has not been using it for 1 yr plus too after watching a few disc.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on February 21, 2019, 17:44
thanks Yang and Pete, maybe the best option is to repair my player since is power issue. But wonder where can I send it.
I gave away my Toshiba 3200 to a bro who was looking for parts. He didn't look grateful at all...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on February 21, 2019, 20:35
I gave away my Toshiba 3200 to a bro who was looking for parts. He didn't look grateful at all...

He never say thank you?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on February 21, 2019, 20:57
He never say thank you?

Nah... walked away with the item.. that's it... like I owed him an apology for giving it away ...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on February 21, 2019, 22:38
Nah... walked away with the item.. that's it... like I owed him an apology for giving it away ...

Aiyoh. 


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: HomeMovie on February 22, 2019, 15:30
He never say thank you?


really? ok, pass me your Laser, I'll prepare a starbuck when collect. LOL
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on February 25, 2019, 08:51
https://www.sotel.de/en/TV-Heimkino/DVD-Blu-ray-Player-Recorder/BluRay-Player/Panasonic-DP-UB9004E-Blu-Ray-player-3D-Black.html
If only the German E-tailer can remove the VAT on checkout... The price will be very competitive to WestCoast HiFi.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Norman_Chan on March 06, 2019, 15:17
Any ideas why LG new 4k blu ray player is selling at a very competitive price of below S$300 ?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: kikoman on March 10, 2019, 15:17
https://youtu.be/oTw_Toh0PzA
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on March 10, 2019, 16:09
https://youtu.be/oTw_Toh0PzA

Bro, if you decide to sell your Panny UB-820, do let me know...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: kikoman on March 11, 2019, 08:41
Bro, if you decide to sell your Panny UB-820, do let me know...


Sure bro.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on March 18, 2019, 18:24
http://www.youtube.com/v/oTw_Toh0PzA&fs=1
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on March 18, 2019, 18:28
Any ideas why LG new 4k blu ray player is selling at a very competitive price of below S$300 ?
Depending on which model u've seen.
if it's the 970, that's the older model. if it's ubp90 or 80, these are newer models. ubp80 is priced to compete with SONY x700. ubp970 though old, it have the same build as the ubp90, but perhaps limited functions with older firmware.
I've seen German(if i'm not wrong) review on the old model, that seems to point out the reddish hue on the picture output of the older model.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Norman_Chan on March 20, 2019, 11:24
Yes, you are correct...the LG UPB80.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: kikoman on March 21, 2019, 06:36
Panasonic will launch 2 more UHD players UB450 and UB150. UB 450 will have DV as compare to UB420. As for the HDR optimiser for the UB450, we have to wait for more specs to be release.

https://news.panasonic.co.uk/introducing-panasonics-ub450-and-ub150-blu-ray-players-with-hdr10-and-dolby-vision/

https://www.avforums.com/news/ces-2019-news-panasonic-launches-ub450-ub150-4k-disc-players.15698
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: kikoman on March 21, 2019, 06:39
https://youtu.be/yvWEK0novkY
Title: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on March 21, 2019, 06:46
Panasonic will launch 2 more UHD players UB450 and UB150. UB 450 will have DV as compare to UB420. As for the HDR optimiser for the UB450, we have to wait for more specs to be release.

https://news.panasonic.co.uk/introducing-panasonics-ub450-and-ub150-blu-ray-players-with-hdr10-and-dolby-vision/

https://www.avforums.com/news/ces-2019-news-panasonic-launches-ub450-ub150-4k-disc-players.15698

Aiyah...Just got the UB-420. Didn’t expect so fast another step up model surfaced. Anyway, for projector users, DV is pretty much useless (at the moment) since none accept DV signal. HDR10+ is a collaboration efforts among some of the top brands in AV consumer electronics to rival with Dolby’s DV format. Will it take off to make a dent on DV, we shall wait and see.
 
I think Panny should fire the website content team for the numerous “typo errors” on the models. UB-150 becomes UB-159 and UB-450 becomes UB-459 and better still even a phantom model called UB-154 comes into existence. LoL

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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: kikoman on March 21, 2019, 07:20
Aiyah...Just got the UB-420. Didn’t expect so fast another step up model surfaced. Anyway, for projector users, DV is pretty much useless (at the moment) since none accept DV signal. HDR10+ is a collaboration efforts among some of the top brands in AV consumer electronics to rival with Dolby’s DV format. Will it take off to make a dent on DV, we shall wait and see.
 
I think Panny should fire the website content team for the numerous “typo errors” on the models. UB-150 becomes UB-159 and UB-450 becomes UB-459 and better still even a phantom model called UB-154 comes into existence. LoL

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Very true, DV is useless to projector, only for tv. Let’s see how projector companys come out with a solution in the future. Panasonic is really too fast. I was caught off guard too. The UB420 is a good player. PQ is solid like the two big brothers. Give us your opinions on the hdr optimiser on your JVC coz not many panny user here in Sg. Would like to learn more from you regarding the setting for Panasonic players. I think the 9 at the end of the model number is meant for Europe market. As the 4, don’t know what’s that for.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on March 21, 2019, 08:25
Very true, DV is useless to projector, only for tv. Let’s see how projector companys come out with a solution in the future. Panasonic is really too fast. I was caught off guard too. The UB420 is a good player. PQ is solid like the two big brothers. Give us your opinions on the hdr optimiser on your JVC coz not many panny user here in Sg. Would like to learn more from you regarding the setting for Panasonic players. I think the 9 at the end of the model number is meant for Europe market. As the 4, don’t know what’s that for.

Yes, I will report my findings very soon.



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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on March 21, 2019, 12:54
Very true, DV is useless to projector, only for tv. Let’s see how projector companys come out with a solution in the future. Panasonic is really too fast. I was caught off guard too. The UB420 is a good player. PQ is solid like the two big brothers. Give us your opinions on the hdr optimiser on your JVC coz not many panny user here in Sg. Would like to learn more from you regarding the setting for Panasonic players. I think the 9 at the end of the model number is meant for Europe market. As the 4, don’t know what’s that for.
Just a question for discussion without prejudice:
Will you be trading size for quality when you go PJ?
Title: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on March 23, 2019, 08:09
Just a question for discussion without prejudice:
Will you be trading size for quality when you go PJ?

Hi Pete, I think the question is overly simplified and alluding that image quality of a projector will almost always be inferior compared to its TV display brethren (correct me if I’m wrong with my interpretation) as we go “bigger in size” and that is not true at all. Fortunately you added the caveat, “discussion without prejudice”.

Anyway my take on this. In gist, Projector can also produce and retain very high picture fidelity even the image casted is more than 100” to 150”. What constitutes a good projection image depends on many factors and chief amongst those being the projector itself (quality of the Optical Engine and the len systems used etc), others include the viewing environment (batcave vs living hall), the use of a proper screen with gain factors and of course proper calibration (even TV display requires calibration to show the best image quality if anyone cares). To ensure the best performance from your projection system, you need to have a dark environment which most of us simply do not the space or a dedicated room to take full advantage of. Unlike TV which usually goes up to 65” (considered the norm these days to have a cinematic viewing experience), the luminance of the display is different from that of a projection system and it is designed with a lights on or ambient lighting in mind without sacrificing the overall picture quality.

There is no denying that the price to size ratio for projector will always be better value than the TV display. But performance or rather PQ from both types of display should be viewed separately in their own merits. There is no denying that there is something “magically cinematic” when watching star wars or Jurassic park on a “big screen” with big sound.



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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on March 23, 2019, 10:03
Thanks for taking it in the right spirit bro ;)
It’s not just size..
There’s color control, HDR and DV control and other enhancements too..
Just checking if the same features are comparable or available?
Size wins I agree but with a 85” tv available for under 10k, if one sits a bit closer, it’s getting closer to the awe of a projector..
Definitely not the same of course
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: ronildoq on March 23, 2019, 22:50
Yes, I will report my findings very soon.



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await your reviews. Seems good for its price and features, really good value UB420
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: kikoman on March 24, 2019, 09:09

Just had a small shoot out between the ub420 and the Sony X800 yesterday. UB420 PQ slightly edged out the Sony while the Sony is abit punchier at the low end. Not bad for a budget player. Value for money.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on March 24, 2019, 10:54
Just had a small shoot out between the ub420 and the Sony X800 yesterday. UB420 PQ slightly edged out the Sony while the Sony is abit punchier at the low end. Not bad for a budget player. Value for money.

Panny’s HQX does help a lot in terms of picture processing/upscaling of 1080p content to 4K. But native 4K content, I find it harder to see a difference and this does not come as a surprise to me.

Even my Pioneer LX-500 did comparably well against Panny HQX.


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on March 24, 2019, 10:55
await your reviews. Seems good for its price and features, really good value UB420

Did some impressions reviews at the JVC N series projector thread. You can check it out.


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on March 26, 2019, 13:31
The Panasonic 420 is on sale down under - $299 Aus. Anyone ?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: ralfale on March 26, 2019, 14:47
https://www.jbhifi.com.au/tvs/4k-ultra-hd-players/

$248 at jbhifi. Looks like clearing stocks for new models now. How do we import in?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on March 26, 2019, 15:52
Although JBHiFi ships overseas... that only limited to softwares from Games or Movies.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on March 26, 2019, 19:28
How much is it in SG?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on March 26, 2019, 19:39
Locally don't hv Panasonic players leh...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: dsj88 on March 31, 2019, 07:39
Firmware upgrade for Panasonic UB420 820 and 9000 plus now region free. Time to pick one up.

https://www.regionfreedom.com/index.php/enhanced-firmware/panasonic-blu-ray-players/67-dp-ub420-dp-ub424-dp-ub820-dp-ub824-dp-ub9000-dp-ub9004/182-dp-ub420-ub424-ub820-ub824-ub9000-ub9004-enhanced-firmware-for-selected-models-eb-ef-eg-gn-p-pc
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on March 31, 2019, 08:14
Firmware upgrade for Panasonic UB420 820 and 9000 plus now region free. Time to pick one up.

https://www.regionfreedom.com/index.php/enhanced-firmware/panasonic-blu-ray-players/67-dp-ub420-dp-ub424-dp-ub820-dp-ub824-dp-ub9000-dp-ub9004/182-dp-ub420-ub424-ub820-ub824-ub9000-ub9004-enhanced-firmware-for-selected-models-eb-ef-eg-gn-p-pc

Awesome news indeed!!! So how do I get the enhanced firmware? It seems I have to become a contributor (beta tester) of some sort to get it? Any monetary sum to pay I wonder?



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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: sanhas on March 31, 2019, 08:23
 My player that was bought and sold recently seems region free. I tried playing code 1 and 2 bluray and both played seamlessly  And that player was in original condition.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on March 31, 2019, 08:27
My player that was bought and sold recently seems region free. I tried playing code 1 and 2 bluray and both played seamlessly  And that player was in original condition.

Bro, this is different. This is an enhanced (third party) firmware update to make all advanced features be available to all models. This is important for JVC projector users.

That’s more exciting news for me than just region free Blu-ray playback (of course I can now playback some of my Blu-ray collections as well).



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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on March 31, 2019, 09:00
Just sent out my application as a contributor to that site...wonder when will I get the enhanced firmware? I will report back here in due course. 2 ways to get the firmware - make monetary contribution in Euro Dollars or state how you intend to help advance the project etc...I chose the latter and if that does not work, then donate 10 Euro equiv to S$15+ as a token of appreciation then.

Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: ronildoq on March 31, 2019, 10:40
The Panasonic 420 is on sale down under - $299 Aus. Anyone ?

Getting in one piece 420 for my Uncle, looks like a no brainer for the price and quality
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Norman_Chan on April 01, 2019, 04:27
Just for into, Courts at Causeway Point selling the LG UP970 at S$199...maybe clearing stock...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on April 03, 2019, 14:27
(https://post76.hk/data/attachment/forum/201903/18/112731ir6pssd58688r97d.jpeg)
Japan's JDM Panasonic UB9k
https://post76.hk/thread-288176-1-2.html
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: ngsk on April 05, 2019, 08:00
For SONY fans: https://www.sony.com/electronics/blu-ray-disc-players/ubp-x1100es
Coming soon.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Count on April 11, 2019, 17:35
Will be in Melbourne in a couple of months and thinking of getting the Panasonic UB9000 or 820 to take advantage of the HDR Optimizer - apparently it works well with the JVC N series projector which I’m about to get due to collaboration between Panasonic and JVC.

Anyone knows of any good retail shops in Australia to get these players? Really don’t understand why Panasonic makes things so difficult for us Sg enthusiasts. Sigh.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on April 11, 2019, 18:53
WestCoast HiFi was the most mentioned one previously.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on April 11, 2019, 20:40
JB Hifi has many branches, or if you take Grab, you can go out to Westcoast..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on April 11, 2019, 22:23
However...JBHiFi doesn't sell the mid-high range models like UB9k n UB820
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on April 11, 2019, 22:36
However...JBHiFi doesn't sell the mid-high range models like UB9k n UB820
They have the 820.. sometimes it's not listed online, but it's in the stores.. saw it there. Cheers
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on April 11, 2019, 23:17
Just saw this...
https://www.jbhifi.com.au/tv-home-entertainment/players-recorders/panasonic/panasonic-dp-ub820-4k-ultra-hd-blu-ray-player-with-dolby-vision-and-hdr10-suppor/367143/
... It's probably just added into their online catalogue these few days. As I last accessed JBHiFi last week looking for updates on their UHDBD releases, also looking out for their new players release.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on April 11, 2019, 23:19
My player that was bought and sold recently seems region free. I tried playing code 1 and 2 bluray and both played seamlessly  And that player was in original condition.
Quite curious. Urs is... Australian set or Europe set?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: sanhas on April 12, 2019, 00:46
Mine is an Australian set.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on April 12, 2019, 00:59
Does your region A Blu Ray disc have the symbol for all three regions or just A. Makes a big difference...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on April 12, 2019, 03:23
Mine is an Australian set.
ouch...i missed the part u were referring to bluray playback...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on April 12, 2019, 08:01
LG ub970 on clearance price of $199 @ Courts
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: dsj88 on April 12, 2019, 12:41
I got the 820 from Videopro 2 weeks ago when they had 20% discount. Paid $490 shipped from Brisbane to Sydney. Keep an eye out for these discounts
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on April 12, 2019, 13:12
https://megadiscountstore.com.sg/collections/blu-ray-dvd-player/products/ubdm8500-blu-ray-player
Perhaps the lowest... at the moment...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: ralfale on April 12, 2019, 13:37
I got the 820 from Videopro 2 weeks ago when they had 20% discount. Paid $490 shipped from Brisbane to Sydney. Keep an eye out for these discounts

Wow, is this from their sg website or a different source?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on April 12, 2019, 13:43
SG VideoPro and AU VideoPro is different in operations and ownership ley... I too thought that VideoPro was referred to the SimLim Sq one when it was mentioned months ago...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on April 14, 2019, 20:43
Any bros here going to hoot the LG 970 player @ Courts take note that not all their branches are synchronized on the clearing price change!
U may need to show their staff the website price or else they proceed to charge u the list price that's known to them!
My colleague just called up to shoot me becos he was charged the list price in one of the branch n blame me giving false info!

Take note. Don't get trapped.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on April 14, 2019, 20:59
I got the 820 from Videopro 2 weeks ago when they had 20% discount. Paid $490 shipped from Brisbane to Sydney. Keep an eye out for these discounts
The 20% off offer may had ended... At the other state, Sydney, u pay only extra $50 compared to others whom mostly sell close to aud$600 list price. And by paying $40 more, u can get to opt for multi region hacked for DVD playback!
https://www.apollohifi.com.au/visual/blu-ray-players-recorders/panasonic-dp-ub820.html
https://www.apollohifi.com.au/visual/blu-ray-players-recorders/panasonic-dp-ub9000.html
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on April 14, 2019, 21:13
Remember guys, Oz players will have a different region for BR.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on April 14, 2019, 22:29
BR play hack can be achieved thru the "stop, top menu" method.
http://www.youtube.com/v/0yTgZ2_42xw&fs=1
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: dsj88 on April 15, 2019, 17:01
Has anyone tried it to see if it works
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on April 15, 2019, 18:46
I saw the Panasonic UB9000 staring at me with a price tag of 999 Euro last Tuesday in Hamburg Germany..... nah, I am happy with my Oppo 205.

(Audio)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on April 15, 2019, 19:28
I saw the Panasonic UB9000 staring at me with a price tag of 999 Euro last Tuesday in Hamburg Germany..... nah, I am happy with my Oppo 205.

(Audio)
Nice price !
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on April 15, 2019, 21:37
€999 is inclusive of the 20% euro tax。if claim tax upon exiting lagi nice!
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: DJQ on April 16, 2019, 11:33
I saw the Panasonic UB9000 staring at me with a price tag of 999 Euro last Tuesday in Hamburg Germany..... nah, I am happy with my Oppo 205.

(Audio)

in time your 205 will fail you.  ;D :-X
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on April 16, 2019, 11:45
in time your 205 will fail you.  ;D :-X

Sure it will.....not before the 8K player comes along...   :)

(Audio)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: francis wu on April 23, 2019, 17:43
The DP-UB9000 is going for 208 000 yen in Tokyo now The DMP-BD90 can be had for 54,000 yen now!(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190423/69d91d6f1f61297058d6937bdf3e52aa.jpg)

Sexy8

Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on April 23, 2019, 21:54
The yellow tab shows special discount @ ¥90,500 ley? Or I interpret wrongly on the Jap words?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: kikoman on April 24, 2019, 08:27
That’s for ub900.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on April 24, 2019, 08:35
The interesting thing will be how much better will these higher end players be for video, compared to a more basic 4K player eg the x700 or x800?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: dsj88 on April 24, 2019, 08:51
Hi have the UB900 UB820 and the X800. The X800 is not comparable at all to the Panasonics. It loses out on UHD and standard blu-rays and to me by a wide margin. The UB820 and UB900 is almost similar but I would  rate the 820 a touch better due to the HDR Optimizers.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: francis wu on April 24, 2019, 08:56
That’s for ub900.
My bad, it's UB900 and since last unit, clearance discount that's why so cheap!

Sexy8

Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on April 24, 2019, 09:15
The interesting thing will be how much better will these higher end players be for video, compared to a more basic 4K player eg the x700 or x800?
I see things very superficial one...
(https://www.flatpanelshd.com/pictures/pioneerudplx500-2.jpg)
...What i see is that you pay high price for perhaps:
better Bluish PCB?
Better drive?
Better power distribution?
or... better metal that adds weight to stability?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on April 24, 2019, 09:33
That’s for ub900.
Still over SGD$700 even with GST claim. Like this hoot new model UB820 better.
Base on SGD$1:NT$22 rate calculation...
https://tw.bid.yahoo.com/item/%E5%85%A8%E6%96%B0-Panasonic-UB9000-4K-UHD-HDR-DOLBY-Vision-Wi-F-100495303707
https://tw.bid.yahoo.com/item/%E3%80%8EJ-buy-%E6%97%A5%E6%9C%AC-Panasonic-4K-3D-UHD-Blu-ray-%E6%92%AD%E6%94%BE%E6%A9%9F-DM-100425957091
https://tw.bid.yahoo.com/item/%E5%85%A8%E6%96%B0-Panasonic-DP-UB820-4K-Ultra-HD-Dolby-Vision-W-100475177051
...those who goes Taiwan trip can forget hooting any sets there...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on April 24, 2019, 09:34
Still over SGD$700 even with GST claim. Like this hoot new model UB820 better.
Base on SGD$1:NT$22 rate calculation...
https://tw.bid.yahoo.com/item/%E5%85%A8%E6%96%B0-Panasonic-UB9000-4K-UHD-HDR-DOLBY-Vision-Wi-F-100495303707
https://tw.bid.yahoo.com/item/%E3%80%8EJ-buy-%E6%97%A5%E6%9C%AC-Panasonic-4K-3D-UHD-Blu-ray-%E6%92%AD%E6%94%BE%E6%A9%9F-DM-100425957091
https://tw.bid.yahoo.com/item/%E5%85%A8%E6%96%B0-Panasonic-DP-UB820-4K-Ultra-HD-Dolby-Vision-W-100475177051
...those who goes Taiwan trip can forget hooting any sets there...
Might have voltage issues? Taiwan is 110V..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on April 24, 2019, 11:14
This fella maybe ordered from U.S. as HK Panasonic don't sell the high end model... 
(https://post76.hk/data/attachment/forum/201904/20/083414x3ukuttuituubfkb.png)

Heng for him... no big damage to the unit
(https://post76.hk/data/attachment/forum/201904/20/083432otogzogdjcngyj2j.jpg)
(https://post76.hk/data/attachment/forum/201904/20/083418gqftuz9urrqque4h.jpg)
https://post76.hk/thread-272601-5-2.html
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on April 24, 2019, 11:25
The DP-UB9000 is going for 208 000 yen in Tokyo now...
(https://post76.hk/data/attachment/forum/201811/13/161851nqggwqelqp0t7gee.jpg)
maybe JDM one special...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: sevenz on April 24, 2019, 16:57
(https://post76.hk/data/attachment/forum/201811/13/161851nqggwqelqp0t7gee.jpg)
maybe JDM one special...

Oooo..... so the UB9000 has a Japan version? :o

Price also....  :o
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on April 24, 2019, 18:28
https://post76.hk/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=288176&extra=page%3D1%26filter%3Dtypeid%26typeid%3D27&page=1
HK owner's unboxing pics of the JDM version.
Only overseas version, from UK and Europe, are eastern europe assembled.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: jonlee on April 24, 2019, 19:44
Japan version BD region same as US/HK/SG, but voltage different from SG, cannot just plug and use correct?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on April 24, 2019, 19:47
200000yen item U dare to blow like that?
HK forumer oredi don't dare to take such challenge liaoz。。。
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: sevenz on April 24, 2019, 22:36
So which country we buy the panny from can play Amazon USA Blu-ray disc and same voltage ah?

Tow Tia lei..... Cos I got a lot of Amazon Blu-ray  :'(
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on April 24, 2019, 23:13
UB9000/UB820 seems to be absent totally from Asian market。

Taiwanese consumers buys from both u.s n japs suppliers,
HK consumers buys from jippun or UK sellers。。。。rest of Asia like Malaysia N Thailand gets low end 220volts panny UHD players。。。so, if u want 220v better makes,like HK forumers get BD region B players loh。。。
cheapest?when U goes to Sydney for trips,buy from Apollo Electronics @ AU$548 with addition of $40 for DVD region hack。
or。。。from UK,sgd$725 with shipping inclusion to ur door step。。。DVD region hacked of course。
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: sevenz on April 24, 2019, 23:35
UB9000/UB820 seems to be absent totally from Asian market。

Taiwanese consumers buys from both u.s n japs suppliers,
HK consumers buys from jippun or UK sellers。。。。rest of Asia like Malaysia N Thailand gets low end 220volts panny UHD players。。。so, if u want 220v better makes,like HK forumers get BD region B players loh。。。
cheapest?when U goes to Sydney for trips,buy from Apollo Electronics @ AU$548 with addition of $40 for DVD region hack。
or。。。from UK,sgd$725 with shipping inclusion to ur door step。。。DVD region hacked of course。

thanks Yang! Can the BD region be hacked/ jailbreaked too?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on April 24, 2019, 23:40
Yeah...seems like Australia is the place to get the Panny players. I got my UB-420 from Australia as well...thanks to bro WIM who helped me to bring one unit into Singapore...same voltage so no need transformer and more importantly, it is reasonably priced.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on April 25, 2019, 00:54
http://www.youtube.com/v/Qk3MrRk5bBw&fs=1
the hack doesn't change the system,it's a hack per use method
thanks Yang! Can the BD region be hacked/ jailbreaked too?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: sevenz on April 25, 2019, 20:15
thanks! I played some Amazon USA BDs on the UB420 (Australia set) today. To my delight, it can play them!!! Yay!!!


Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on April 25, 2019, 20:22
thanks! I played some Amazon USA BDs on the UB420 (Australia set) today. To my delight, it can play them!!! Yay!!!



Bro can you share which discs?
Some US discs are region ABC enabled. Cheers
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: dsj88 on April 25, 2019, 20:36
I tried on my UB820 but did not work for region A locked BDs like Ratatouille
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on April 25, 2019, 20:59
There are few ways of Blu-ray hacks shared in YouTube. check it out, if the typical "stop, top menu" method does not work for u.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: sevenz on April 25, 2019, 23:17
Bro can you share which discs?
Some US discs are region ABC enabled. Cheers

Oic... Thx for the heads up. My bad. I assumed they were all region A without checking the cover

The titles I tried so far are
Oblivion
Reel steel
Train the dragon 2

Let me check the other titles n covers
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on April 25, 2019, 23:39
Oic... Thx for the heads up. My bad. I assumed they were all region A without checking the cover

The titles I tried so far are
Oblivion
Reel steel
Train the dragon

Let me check the other titles n covers
At least the first two titles are region free..
You can check:
https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Oblivion-Blu-ray/63492/

Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: dsj88 on April 26, 2019, 05:43
Tried all 3 methods on a few Region A BDs and none worked.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on April 26, 2019, 09:37
This one another way if the regular "stop, top menu" hack does not work
http://www.youtube.com/v/3iLaNNnp2xQ&fs=1
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on April 26, 2019, 10:01
I tried on my UB820 but did not work for region A locked BDs like Ratatouille
Should u hv tried most methods on getting ur region B player to play region A discs failed... I think u have to either buy region A player specifically to run ur FHD  discs...or...share ur experience here:
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/149-blu-ray-players/2990966-official-panasonic-dp-ub820-824-owner-s-thread-no-price-talk.html
...to get better advise lo... 
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: sevenz on April 26, 2019, 22:49
Let me check the other titles n covers

Checked. Oblivion and reel steel didn't have the region A logo on the cover.

Train the dragon 2 is region A.

Tested another few region A BDs from Amazon U. Many could play:
Prometheus
Dawn of the planet of the apes
Kingsman
X-Men origins wolverine
X-Men days of future past


Couldn't play:
Mockingjay part 1
Hunger Games
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Looks like not all region A BDs are affected :) that's good news for us! 

By the way, the workarounds in the videos don't work for me too
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: sevenz on April 26, 2019, 23:04
I must say the pq for the ub420 is amazing for the price. Especially the HDR performance. Really good. Impressed for a player at this price point.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: kikoman on April 26, 2019, 23:30
You wouldn’t go wrong with panny PQ. Owned a few of their players. Took out a US (110V) bluray player from storage a couple months ago and it’s PQ still shine on my 4k tv. The panny player is at least 7yrs old.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on April 27, 2019, 06:33
You wouldn’t go wrong with panny PQ. Owned a few of their players. Took out a US (110V) bluray player from storage a couple months ago and it’s PQ still shine on my 4k tv. The panny player is at least 7yrs old.

The only gripe I have with Panny player is the archaic user interface. And some AVSForum members also complained about the fan noise for UB820 and higher end.



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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on April 27, 2019, 06:34
I must say the pq for the ub420 is amazing for the price. Especially the HDR performance. Really good. Impressed for a player at this price point.

Welcome to the Panny club.


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: sevenz on April 27, 2019, 11:28
The only gripe I have with Panny player is the archaic user interface. And some AVSForum members also complained about the fan noise for UB820 and higher end.



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Agreed on the unfriendly user interface too.

And the buttons layout on the remote on 420 is not very ideal. So cramped! :/  esp the buttons they place around the directional buttons. Easily wrongly press other button when I want to go right, left or up.

Oppo's UI is much better I feel and region free. I still have a soft spot for my Oppo :)

It's a waste they exited the market sigh
Title: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: kikoman on April 28, 2019, 01:25
The only gripe I have with Panny player is the archaic user interface. And some AVSForum members also complained about the fan noise for UB820 and higher end.



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I didn’t hear any noise from my player while I was watching a quiet place last night.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on April 28, 2019, 07:04
I hear any noise from my player while I was watching a quiet place last night.

Glad to know. I believed some of the AVSForumers might have placed the player very near to their MLP. Thanks for sharing.

While my UB420 doesn’t sport a fan, the disc loading and reading is certainly “louder” than usual especially when compared to Oppo and the Pioneer LX500. But PQ wise especially for HDR, Panny wins hands down imo.



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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: tigerman on April 28, 2019, 18:17
I wonder how does the "Xbox One "S" or "X" compares against the Panasonic players.
As in the colour reproduction area's.
Anyone tried to pit the "Microsoft" vs "Panasonic"?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on April 28, 2019, 19:33
well... a competition against the Merc'S'class oredi done...
http://www.youtube.com/v/bpogUNE033I&fs=1
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on April 28, 2019, 19:37
As to the Lexus of the UHD world...The competitor should be in the same family of ub820?
http://www.youtube.com/v/F1Lt43-9lmY&fs=1
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on May 02, 2019, 13:29
S&V reviews the Pioneer:
https://www.soundandvision.com/content/pioneer-udp-lx500-ultra-hd-blu-ray-player-review

Has anyone compared this to the Panny?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: kikoman on May 02, 2019, 14:10
S&V reviews the Pioneer:
https://www.soundandvision.com/content/pioneer-udp-lx500-ultra-hd-blu-ray-player-review

Has anyone compared this to the Panny?

It should compare with the UB9000 since they are about the same price range.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on May 02, 2019, 16:48
Tried all 3 methods on a few Region A BDs and none worked.
(https://www.hometheaterforum.com/community/attachments/ef512ec1-1a09-4279-96f5-3910c3a55940-png.57985/)
Shared by fellow Aussie member from HTF. Some titles from LIONSGATE really pain in the...butt!
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on May 07, 2019, 14:44
Xbox One used to Demo Atmos material here
http://www.youtube.com/v/lK1RD0he0Q0&fs=1
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: ncw on May 11, 2019, 17:36
Those who want Panasonic dp ub9000 & Sony ubpx800m2 can pre-order on B&H Photo US.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: otomato on May 16, 2019, 22:12
on my means of buying an amp soon.
now looking for 4k BR player.
any recommendation? looking for just local BR players   .    ;D
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on May 23, 2019, 15:09
Hmmm... If spending approximately $1.6k for a UHD player just to play 4k disc...
https://www.westcoasthifi.com.au/product/panasonic-dp-ub9000-ultra-hd-blu-ray-player/
https://www.sotel.de/en/TV-Heimkino/DVD-Blu-ray-Player-Recorder/BluRay-Player/Panasonic-DP-UB9004EGK-black.html
...lots of PANNY interest bros here may not be able to stomach the playing capability limitation.

But when we compare the built to the already available Pioneer LX500...
(https://www.valueelectronics.com/images/albums/NewAlbum_18d93/tn_480_290c0681fde23fb3f870687e2aace486.jpg.png)
...burb... ;)
The difference of the JDM version
(https://www.phileweb.com/news/photo/d-av/456/45636/ub9000-shasi.jpg)
...worth the extra bucks? It's up to u...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: sevenz on May 23, 2019, 17:26
I tried out the UB420. The PQ is excellent and HDR tone mapping is super good for the price. Definitely a player to beat at its price point for disc playing. But via USB input (HDD), the file type support is limited and doesn't support ATMOS Audio.

I kinda need a player that has more file types support via USB HDD....

Are there any UHD players to recommend that have support for more file formats like the Oppo 20x? The Oppo 20x can play almost every file I throw at it.  =) 

Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: ronildoq on May 24, 2019, 18:35
I tried out the UB420. The PQ is excellent and HDR tone mapping is super good for the price. Definitely a player to beat at its price point for disc playing. But via USB input (HDD), the file type support is limited and doesn't support ATMOS Audio.

I kinda need a player that has more file types support via USB HDD....

Are there any UHD players to recommend that have support for more file formats like the Oppo 20x? The Oppo 20x can play almost every file I throw at it.  =)

Told u... exactly why I sold it after using it for 5 mins... lol
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Audio on May 24, 2019, 19:10
That is why we don't dance around...Oppo 205 come out, we bought it.

(Audio)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: ronildoq on May 25, 2019, 10:22
That is why we don't dance around...Oppo 205 come out, we bought it.

(Audio)

👍🏻 Still the best for me, been serving me well for the past 1 year plus, it plays almost anything I throw aT it, no glitches, no lag, even plays the dsd files, too bad it’s no longer in production and prices have sky rocketed for a new set now
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: sevenz on May 25, 2019, 14:16
Oppo is good for now. Very all rounded. But hor, we still we need to start searching for worthy replacement players and plan ahead in event of emerging video/audio format supports.

The panny is still great for 4k disc playing and the HDR dynamic tone mapping quality is superb.

How are the latest Pioneer players? Can they support multiple file formats via USB?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: ronildoq on May 27, 2019, 08:28
Oppo is good for now. Very all rounded. But hor, we still we need to start searching for worthy replacement players and plan ahead in event of emerging video/audio format supports.

The panny is still great for 4k disc playing and the HDR dynamic tone mapping quality is superb.

How are the latest Pioneer players? Can they support multiple file formats via USB?

On the picture quality, I wouldn’t say it’s great, just normal, I still find the Oppo 205 was way better, the UB420” had a lot of noise, u could see it clearly, even with the disc on...

But for the price of the player and used with disc then it’s good. So if we had a ton of UHD disc collection then worth getting this player for the price

Pioneer has been tested as well... still some catching up, should be soon...

We mustn’t forget Oppo has been around for more than a decade in this line, the know how on firmware, design, etc is critical, which is why it plays almost anything u throw at it

U will notice why emotiva is still struggling until now to get the RMC-1 processor to work well, the firmware part is not easy...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: raindance on May 27, 2019, 21:45
LG ub970 on clearance price of $199 @ Courts

I'm thinking of getting this. Does anyone know if this is able to play region locked DVDs? I still have many zone 1 DVDs that I would like to play occasionally.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on June 11, 2019, 09:43
I wonder if the game consoles will be the first 4k players with HDMI 2.1?
Then again, they are now coming without a drive...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on June 11, 2019, 09:58
I'm thinking of getting this. Does anyone know if this is able to play region locked DVDs? I still have many zone 1 DVDs that I would like to play occasionally.
LG wise... from different clips posted in YouTube it seems that playing different region discs requires hack per session play by adjusting on the country region in setup... but again i cannot confirm.
The only UHD player i know that needs not do any "hack per play" are from Samsung. Both the M8500 and 9500.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on June 11, 2019, 10:00
I wonder if the game consoles will be the first 4k players with HDMI 2.1?
Then again, they are now coming without a drive...
so far the only known one is from X-Box. PlayStation... no idea wor...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: comfortablynumb on June 11, 2019, 16:05
Anyone hooted the Pioneer LX500/LX800?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on June 11, 2019, 17:17
Finally found one German E-tailer that ships PANASONIC UB9k* @ competitive price that ships to SG, with German TAX removal...
http://hidden-audio.de/index.php/panasonic-dp-ub9004-uhd-blu-ray-player-4k-hdr.html
Total under SGD$1.4k shipped.
*Region locked @ FHDBD-B/DVD-2
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on June 11, 2019, 18:22
German HiFi Specialist modded UB9004* now available for export!
(https://image.jimcdn.com/app/cms/image/transf/dimension=960x10000:format=jpg/path/se228fb1b153b9cb2/image/i78ab15118bc80aa3/version/1548375112/image.jpg)
https://www.sweetspot-audio.de/produkte/panasonic/
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Panasonic-DP-UB9004-Sweetspot-Audio-modification-high-end-UHD-Bluray-Player-NEU/323791435382

*Region Locked @ FHDBD-B/DVD-2
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on June 11, 2019, 18:43
Those looking to get Multi-Region friendly on FHDBD and DVD PIONEER...
(https://www.audiocomav.co.uk/1983-large_default/pioneer-udp-lx500-region-free-multi-zone.jpg)
...this LX500 ships from UK. Pricier though.
https://www.audiocomav.co.uk/4k-uhd-blu-ray-players/665-pioneer-udp-lx500-region-free-multi-zone.html
Non-Region hacked set
https://www.audiocomav.co.uk/4k-uhd-blu-ray-players/608-pioneer-udp-lx500-dvd-region-2-blu-ray-zone-b.html

Cheaper when compared to American retailer...
https://www.220-electronics.com/pioneer-elite-udp-lx500-region-free-4k-uhd-multi-region-blu-ray-player-with-rs232.html
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Chowbotak on June 11, 2019, 22:00
Those looking to get Multi-Region friendly on FHDBD and DVD PIONEER...
(https://www.audiocomav.co.uk/1983-large_default/pioneer-udp-lx500-region-free-multi-zone.jpg)
...this LX500 ships from UK. Pricier though.
https://www.audiocomav.co.uk/4k-uhd-blu-ray-players/665-pioneer-udp-lx500-region-free-multi-zone.html
Non-Region hacked set
https://www.audiocomav.co.uk/4k-uhd-blu-ray-players/608-pioneer-udp-lx500-dvd-region-2-blu-ray-zone-b.html

Cheaper when compared to American retailer...
https://www.220-electronics.com/pioneer-elite-udp-lx500-region-free-4k-uhd-multi-region-blu-ray-player-with-rs232.html

Just checked. With shipping it'll come to £929. 50
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on June 11, 2019, 22:36
buying standalone FHD and UHD players seems to be more practical la... and budget friendly as well
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Chowbotak on June 11, 2019, 22:43
Amazon US have, it's dual voltage so no need step down trans. And cheaper ;D

https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-Elite-UDP-LX500-Universal-Player/dp/B07HCL34WK
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on June 11, 2019, 22:58
USD$989+149.73 but not region free on DVD as well as FHDBD leh.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Chowbotak on June 11, 2019, 23:08
Not an issue for me as I can play those on my other players ;D
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on June 11, 2019, 23:14
It's much simpler to do a region free BR player, and a 4k player of your flavor..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: comfortablynumb on June 11, 2019, 23:17
Amazon US have, it's dual voltage so no need step down trans. And cheaper ;D

https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-Elite-UDP-LX500-Universal-Player/dp/B07HCL34WK

1661 sgd include gst n delivery
Any good place to buy in hkg?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: comfortablynumb on June 11, 2019, 23:26
Just checked. With shipping it'll come to £929. 50
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Just checked. With shipping it'll come to £929. 50

Now at £909.50 with delivery
Add gst is S$1689
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Chowbotak on June 11, 2019, 23:32
Don't know abt HK, I just placed my order  ;D
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: comfortablynumb on June 11, 2019, 23:42
Don't know abt HK, I just placed my order  ;D

u hoot the LX500 region/zone free player from the UK?
£909.50 right? my fingers itchy liao
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Chowbotak on June 11, 2019, 23:45
Er no, hooted the Amazon one
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: comfortablynumb on June 11, 2019, 23:49
Er no, hooted the Amazon one

Oh for S$20 more, you should have hooted the region/zone free LX500 from the UK
Anyway, good choice too!
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Chowbotak on June 12, 2019, 00:00
Bro Comfortablynumb, I'm more comfortable with purchasing an unmodified player ;D
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: comfortablynumb on June 12, 2019, 00:07
Bro Comfortablynumb, I'm more comfortable with purchasing an unmodified player ;D

You hv a point
If modded set got problem, it get complicated
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on June 12, 2019, 00:28
1661 sgd include gst n delivery
Any good place to buy in hkg?
https://www.lazada.sg/products/pioneer-udp-lx500-4k-uhd-universal-disc-player-i308116989-s556804492.html
although locally ex by $140...
...if treat that extras as an insurance for local warranty...it seems acceptable?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: comfortablynumb on June 12, 2019, 00:31
https://www.lazada.sg/products/pioneer-udp-lx500-4k-uhd-universal-disc-player-i308116989-s556804492.html
although locally ex by $140...
...if treat that extras as an insurance for local warranty...it seems acceptable?

Someone was selling S$1600 on carousell BNIB and c/w local warranty but sold liao
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Chowbotak on June 12, 2019, 02:59
Alamak Lazada have ah. nuts, never tot of looking there cos Sony, Panny also never bring in their better players
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on June 12, 2019, 06:43
Bro Chowbotak, you will not be disappointed with the LX-500 sound quality especially if you are leaning towards music. The 4K PQ also equally impressive. This player is an all-rounder that checked the boxes in almost all departments. In terms of versatility, it still can’t beat Oppo due to its lack of support for full range of media file formats like MKV for instance.



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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on June 12, 2019, 06:45
Someone was selling S$1600 on carousell BNIB and c/w local warranty but sold liao

Pioneer players always have a high markup. I can’t bear myself to get a set with local warranty. Too expensive.


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Chowbotak on June 12, 2019, 07:57
Bro Chowbotak, you will not be disappointed with the LX-500 sound quality especially if you are leaning towards music. The 4K PQ also equally impressive. This player is an all-rounder that checked the boxes in almost all departments. In terms of versatility, it still can’t beat Oppo due to its lack of support for full range of media file formats like MKV for instance.



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Great to know tat bro! As long as it plays region A and dual voltage I am v satisfied liao
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on June 12, 2019, 08:03
ur hoot from Amazon voltage spans from 110~240v?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Chowbotak on June 12, 2019, 08:37
Yup(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190612/a2a51af45d931e4d25184d9a8547a317.jpg)

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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on June 12, 2019, 08:44
The picture looks machiam European set ley... B/2?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on June 12, 2019, 09:04
Any Sony users tried this?
https://www.techwalla.com/articles/how-to-change-the-region-code-on-a-dvd-for-a-sony-blu-ray
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: comfortablynumb on June 12, 2019, 09:15
Damn hk selling the lx500 for less than S$1200
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on June 12, 2019, 09:38
Average about SGD$1.3k without shipping ley... and it seems that the HK stocks are mostly not region hacked ones.
https://www.price.com.hk/product.php?p=345970&hw=h&gp=15
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: comfortablynumb on June 12, 2019, 10:06
Average about SGD$1.3k without shipping ley... and it seems that the HK stocks are mostly not region hacked ones.
https://www.price.com.hk/product.php?p=345970&hw=h&gp=15

Fortress hk selling hkd7000
Anyway, hkg few shops does overseas shipping
Hand carry back?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on June 12, 2019, 10:39
Seller's offer based in Switzerland

LX-500- Region locked @ FHDBD-B/DVD-2
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/XgQAAOSwsltc-QiX/s-l1600.png)
https://www.ebay.com.sg/itm/Pioneer-UDP-LX-500-High-End-UltraHD-Blu-ray-Player-mit-HDR10-und-PQLS/303179912118?hash=item4696ee53b6:g:XgQAAOSwsltc-QiX

UB9004- Region locked @ FHDBD-B/DVD-2
https://www.ebay.com.sg/itm/PANASONIC-lettore-blueray-4-K-UB-9004/303122618932?hash=item4693841a34:g:rWkAAOSwn7Rb~SYw

Both prices are Euro VAT inclusive... Suggest to contact seller for VAT removal before ship-off
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: jonlee on June 12, 2019, 12:38
Alamak Lazada have ah. nuts, never tot of looking there cos Sony, Panny also never bring in their better players
No need to feel nuts ... lazada one no stock. 
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: jonlee on June 12, 2019, 12:39
Yup(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190612/a2a51af45d931e4d25184d9a8547a317.jpg)

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bro, u better check again.  When I see the amazon.US photo, it shows differently:

(https://i.imgur.com/IxaTAX1.png)

 In case kenna con by wrong photo.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: comfortablynumb on June 12, 2019, 12:47
Ah Jon
U bought the lx500?
How is the quality of sacd playback
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on June 12, 2019, 12:48
+1
Many items sold in USA are 110V, some, if you dare to risk it are universal voltage.
But it's best to ask in the amazon question section - they are very responsive..
Always ensure
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: jonlee on June 12, 2019, 12:48
Ah Jon
U bought the lx500?
How is the quality of sacd playback
Nope, I yet to buy.  My panasonic plasma still FHD only ...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: comfortablynumb on June 12, 2019, 12:53
I searched for lx500 models on ebay US and US sellers are saying they are 120v not dual voltage

Bro CBT
Better cancel if can...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: sevenz on June 12, 2019, 12:58
can the lx500 play BD discs from all regions?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on June 12, 2019, 13:07
There are very few 4k players or plain BR players which are  few region free for BD / DVD.
The old Oppo was one. The Laser brand BR player was another.
The Aussies have another model, which is very basic.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: jonlee on June 12, 2019, 13:11
My oppo 103D lost the region free after I update firmware from oppo.  Ok for me as my BDs are all region A.

So if the mod Pioneer LX500 is region free from firmware, need to be careful whether updating firmware will lost that.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: sevenz on June 12, 2019, 14:01
ic... thanks! :)

I probably also need region A more cos mostly bought from Amazon
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: jonlee on June 12, 2019, 15:03
ic... thanks! :)

I probably also need region A more cos mostly bought from Amazon

Singapore, US, Hong Kong and Japan are all region A.  So the HK LX500 can consider.  Take a holiday there and hand carry back.  :)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on June 12, 2019, 15:34
(https://www.audionet.com.tw/data/attachment/forum/201808/03/155453b1au7aq8isp78g8g.jpg)
Many many ample space in the system... Future hardware upgradability?
https://www.audionet.com.tw/thread-10922-1-1.html
https://www.audionet.com.tw/thread-11052-1-1.html
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: comfortablynumb on June 12, 2019, 15:47
Singapore, US, Hong Kong and Japan are all region A.  So the HK LX500 can consider.  Take a holiday there and hand carry back.  :)

Yup that's my plan
Email several sellers in hk but all do not send overseas
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Chowbotak on June 12, 2019, 17:38
Alamak. Thanks bros! Yday i read a review where the reviewer said it can accept both voltages. Hmm shd i cancel or just use a step down?  ::)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on June 12, 2019, 17:47
so far only clear pics from HK and TW review site catches the universal voltage details...
(https://www.audionet.com.tw/data/attachment/forum/201809/13/115746ofs2ppjs6yu67161.jpg)
...this is probably the "A" zone sets target to be sold in Taiwan and Japan market?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: comfortablynumb on June 12, 2019, 17:48
Alamak. Thanks bros! Yday i read a review where the reviewer said it can accept both voltages. Hmm shd i cancel or just use a step down?  ::)

If got time to cancel then do it quick
Can buy zone 2 set since UHD discs are zone free or go hkg buy

No point using step down
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: comfortablynumb on June 12, 2019, 17:52
so far only clear pics from HK and TW review site catches the universal voltage details...
(https://www.audionet.com.tw/data/attachment/forum/201809/13/115746ofs2ppjs6yu67161.jpg)
...this is probably the "A" zone sets target to be sold in Taiwan and Japan market?

Checked the Q&A in Amazon for the lx500 but only 1 answer found re 220v compatibility
Someone answered its US voltage only
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Chowbotak on June 12, 2019, 18:08
Looks like I'll have to use the step down. Received their email that they were unable to cancel. Fcuk it, I'll enjoy it then ;D Come to think of it, I'll much rather have wrong voltage than wrong region ;D
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Tiktokape on June 12, 2019, 18:11
Looks like I'll have to use the step down. Received their email that they were unable to cancel. Fcuk it, I'll enjoy it then ;D Come to think of it, I'll much rather have wrong voltage than wrong region ;D
Can do a return


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: comfortablynumb on June 12, 2019, 18:12
Anyway Congrats to your new toy
Enjoy Yr movies on it
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Chowbotak on June 12, 2019, 18:21
Can do a return


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LOL!

Nah, dun want anymore hassles. I also use a step down for my present player. Later found tat it was dual voltage. Yes bro CNumb, life is short, enjoy it
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: comfortablynumb on June 12, 2019, 18:40
Bro CBT
chatted with 1 amazon buyer of the lx500 from the US
He will send me pic of his back unit to confirm the voltage whether its 110v or 110-240v

Keeping my fingers crossed its the latter
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Chowbotak on June 12, 2019, 20:49
Wah thanks bro. I just saw another rear view pic of a set that has dual voltage stated. It was a region B set. My guess is tat US sets are only availablle in 120v
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on June 13, 2019, 10:02
Those who expect Pioneer machines can do SACD ripping, shall be disappointed.
https://post76.hk/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=288947&pid=4558182
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: comfortablynumb on June 13, 2019, 10:59
Those who expect Pioneer machines can do SACD ripping, shall be disappointed.
https://post76.hk/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=288947&pid=4558182

oh no.....I was hoping it would
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on June 14, 2019, 19:27
FHDBD & DVD Region-hacked sets available straight from UK based eBay seller straight, to SG.
Sony x700, x800, x1000
https://www.tps.uk.com/?tab_name=SONY&tab_id=54&choice_name=4K_Ultra_HD&choice_id=239&product_group_id=296&product_name=Sony_UBP-X700_MULTIREGION_4K_Ultra_HD_Blu-ray_Player_A_Grade&product_id=4330&choice_type=1
https://www.tps.uk.com/?tab_name=SONY&tab_id=54&choice_name=4K_Ultra_HD&choice_id=239&product_group_id=296&product_name=Sony_UBP-X800_MULTIREGION_4K_Ultra_HD_Blu-ray_Player_A_Grade&product_id=4331&choice_type=1
https://www.tps.uk.com/?tab_name=SONY&tab_id=54&choice_name=MultiRegion&choice_id=237&product_group_id=294&product_name=Sony_UBP-X1000ES_MULTIREGION_4K_Ultra_HD_Blu-ray_Player_A_Grade&product_id=4511&choice_type=1

Panasonic UB150, UB450
https://www.tps.uk.com/?tab_name=Panasonic&tab_id=52&choice_name=4K_Ultra_HD&choice_id=238&product_group_id=295&product_name=Panasonic_DP-UB150EB-K_MULTIREGION_4K_Ultra_HD_Blu-ray_Player_-_DP-UB150EB-K&product_id=4630&choice_type=1
https://www.tps.uk.com/?tab_name=Panasonic&tab_id=52&choice_name=4K_Ultra_HD&choice_id=238&product_group_id=295&product_name=Panasonic_DP-UB450EB-K_MULTIREGION_4K_Ultra_HD_Blu-ray_Player_-_DP-UB450EB-K&product_id=4633&choice_type=1

Pioneer LX500
https://www.tps.uk.com/?tab_name=MULTIREGION&tab_id=64&choice_name=Panasonic%20Blu-ray&choice_id=4&product_group_id=352&product_name=Pioneer_UDP-LX500_MULTIREGION_4K_Ultra_HD_Blu-ray_Player&product_id=4509&choice_type=1

Note that unlike German E-tailers, UK seller will not remove VAT off the selling price upon checkout and into payment stage.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on June 14, 2019, 21:30
Aussie dollar is down..
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/business/australia-dollar-currency-singdollar-economy-11627800
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: comfortablynumb on June 14, 2019, 21:39
Managed to discover big lobang for lx500 n lx800 bd zone A units locally

Export sets but will be serviced by Pioneer Sg if any problems.

PM me for pricing n seller's details
I booked lx800

Their existing stocks all reserved pending collection
New stocks by end June
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on June 14, 2019, 23:56
Aussie dollar is down..
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/business/australia-dollar-currency-singdollar-economy-11627800
the aussie etailers will hv a good chances of growing sales if they r willing to do what the Germans do,export with GST removal and open gradually taking orders regions by regions。
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Chowbotak on June 15, 2019, 16:31
Alamak bro CN, your lobang came too late for me. Ordered on Wed early morning, it's here aldy. Nope, no dual voltage, have to use SUT (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190615/02ed813f0f3f717d4a28cdd776c3c31d.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190615/f011551eb712cc0313ab562fc3c39555.jpg)

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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: comfortablynumb on June 15, 2019, 17:58
Bro CBT
No worries
I found the lobang by fluke yesterday
Anyway just enjoy and give review if got time
I better not tell u the price la
Later u heart pain
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Chowbotak on June 15, 2019, 18:10
No worries bro, this is life. Win some lose some. Just be happpy we have the luxury of pursuing our hobbies. Maybe just a little heart pain if u can get it below $1k ;D
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: comfortablynumb on June 15, 2019, 18:18
Anyway just pm u
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Chowbotak on June 15, 2019, 18:22
Fantastic bro! Missed the boat but I'll let my fren know!
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on June 15, 2019, 19:19
Sony daze is here. so as pricing down of local set of x700 @ Mustafa。
$279,w/1yr warranty,region locked @ FHDBD-A/DVD-3
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: kikoman on June 15, 2019, 19:27
Managed to discover big lobang for lx500 n lx800 bd zone A units locally

Export sets but will be serviced by Pioneer Sg if any problems.

PM me for pricing n seller's details
I booked lx800

Their existing stocks all reserved pending collection
New stocks by end June


Hi, may I know what’s the price like for the Pioneer? Thanks in adavnce.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: otomato on June 15, 2019, 19:36
which one would you choose ...
- LG UP970
- SONY UBPX700BM
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: wcseow on June 15, 2019, 22:13
which one would you choose ...
- LG UP970
- SONY UBPX700BM

I had chosen Sony over LG for this. I like to have SACD support and is happy with the video and sound. I feel it is better than Xbox One X.

But my unit does freeze occasionally which required a power cycle to recovery
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: sevenz on June 16, 2019, 13:16
So good all the lobangs.

Anyone knows how is the file support for Sony x700, pioneer lx500 lx800 via USB HDD? :)

Looking 4 a player that can play media files at least like the oppo.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: kelvinsin on June 16, 2019, 17:48
So good all the lobangs.

Anyone knows how is the file support for Sony x700, pioneer lx600 lx800 via USB HDD? :)

Looking 4 a player that can play media files at least like the oppo.

Lx600?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Count on June 16, 2019, 19:36
For those of you who have bought blu ray players or other AV equipment overseas and hand carry back, do you have any issue clearing security? Like when you x-ray the box will the airport security ask you to open and check?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on June 16, 2019, 19:40
Lx600?
his specs maybe tio stained la。。。so。。。the extra stroke to make 5 mistakenly typed as 6?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Davegoo on June 16, 2019, 20:01
Hi Experts.

Am in the market for a good 4k player. Maybe this has been asked before and I seek your forgiveness but among Oppo 205, Pioneer LX series  and the Panny UB9000. Which player produces the best overall results if sorely for home cinema?

I notice the recent chats have been moving towards the Pioneer.


Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: sevenz on June 16, 2019, 21:53
Lx600?

my bad. Typo. Lx500 i mean
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Cubacuba on June 16, 2019, 22:07
https://www.pioneer-audiovisual.eu/sites/default/files/manuals/Bluray%20Player/UDP-LX500_EN.pdf

You can find supported file formats here
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: otomato on June 17, 2019, 00:00
I had chosen Sony over LG for this. I like to have SACD support and is happy with the video and sound.
But my unit does freeze occasionally which required a power cycle to recovery
almost bought sony 700.
but after I read many have experienced freezing problems, I decided to land on LG instead.
at that price @ 199 it plays every disc I threw in. it even load pretty fast.
 
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on June 17, 2019, 00:22
...it plays every disc I threw in. it even load pretty fast.
the only gripe with LG970 is the noise niah... otherwise,majority of others concern,small percentage of folks like me,concern of it's multi region playability with DVDs niah...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on June 17, 2019, 00:34
Value Electonics having offer...with direct VISA payment?
https://www.hometheaterforum.com/community/posts/4750829/
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: comfortablynumb on June 17, 2019, 08:10
Value Electonics having offer...with direct VISA payment?
https://www.hometheaterforum.com/community/posts/4750829/

Pity sets are 110v only
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: otomato on June 17, 2019, 10:59
the only gripe with LG970 is the noise niah... otherwise,majority of others concern,small percentage of folks like me,concern of it's multi region playability with DVDs niah...

noise? ... no leh
prolly I turn volume so up till i cannot here them
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: kelvinsin on June 17, 2019, 17:29
Hi Experts.

Am in the market for a good 4k player. Maybe this has been asked before and I seek your forgiveness but among Oppo 205, Pioneer LX series  and the Panny UB9000. Which player produces the best overall results if sorely for home cinema?

I notice the recent chats have been moving towards the Pioneer.


Thanks in advance.
How ppl not moving to pioneer since 205 is discon?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on June 17, 2019, 17:56
Hi Experts.

Am in the market for a good 4k player. Maybe this has been asked before and I seek your forgiveness but among Oppo 205, Pioneer LX series  and the Panny UB9000. Which player produces the best overall results if sorely for home cinema?

I notice the recent chats have been moving towards the Pioneer.
Zee this? What do you think the future of the "open field" can turn into?
(https://www.audionet.com.tw/data/attachment/forum/201808/03/155453b1au7aq8isp78g8g.jpg)
LX500 is not just only multi audio codec friendly, most important of all is the "future upgradability and possibility". That's why it gets lots of attention.

Some folks ...like moi, is more concerned on video quality,
audio secondary, especially wouldn't care much less on different audio codec compatibility
...will tend to go for Panasonic UB9000/UB820(since most will likely pass digital audio to AVR for processing).
(https://image.jimcdn.com/app/cms/image/transf/dimension=960x10000:format=jpg/path/se228fb1b153b9cb2/image/i78ab15118bc80aa3/version/1548375112/image.jpg)
"Open Field" in UB9000? Bah... it seems nothing much can be planted there...It's a dense vegetation inside.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on June 17, 2019, 18:46
IMO
It’s better to separate out the functions and get a decent 4K player for a lower price then a solid music player that won’t get outdated so soon.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: comfortablynumb on June 19, 2019, 17:23
Wa.... Just a quick update that the local seller at Sim Lim Tower has up price for lx500 cos they received lots of calls
Those who reserved earlier very lucky.

LX800 stocks for end June all reserved
Just spoke to them n they confirmed :
1. Sets are direct from local agent with no warranty card hence, the low prices.
They are not parallel import sets
2. Local agent will service units but must pay for labour n parts
3. Sets are local power voltage
4. Bluray zone is A

LX500 now SS1285 compared to S1100 before
Left a few units available for June shioment
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on June 21, 2019, 14:58
Those with "horny" fingers, will want to poke poke the new holes on the bottom... new machine!
(https://i1.wp.com/blog.son-video.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/UB-9000_Vs_UB900-05.jpg?w=800&h=500&ssl=1)
 ;D   ;D   ;D
https://blog.son-video.com/en/2018/08/review-panasonic-dp-ub9000-4k-hdr10-dolby-vision-blu-ray-player/
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: comfortablynumb on June 26, 2019, 13:42
Prices for lx500/800 upped $100 by SLT seller
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: DJQ on June 26, 2019, 16:42
now GSS, tell them to keep it in the store.  :)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: comfortablynumb on June 26, 2019, 20:13
now GSS, tell them to keep it in the store.  :)
Lol
New stocks all reserved
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: DJQ on June 27, 2019, 13:29
Poor thing to pioneer authorised dealers. Let this be a wake up call to you all.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: jonlee on June 27, 2019, 17:32
Poor thing to pioneer authorised dealers. Let this be a wake up call to you all.
Pioneer AD all no stock, this SLT exporter got so many stock?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: comfortablynumb on June 27, 2019, 17:44
Pioneer AD all no stock, this SLT exporter got so many stock?

Pioneer Sg released to them only a few units
I think less than 15 units
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on June 28, 2019, 06:28
Pioneer Sg released to them only a few units
I think less than 15 units

I also bought my LX-500 from the wholesaler at SLT. I’m one of the lucky ones to get at a relatively good price. Of course the downside is export set but you saved a lot. The sound quality is amazing even though I’m not an audiophile.


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Chowbotak on June 28, 2019, 07:36
Ah yes, a big jump in SQ over my Sony x800
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: comfortablynumb on June 28, 2019, 10:12
I also bought my LX-500 from the wholesaler at SLT. I’m one of the lucky ones to get at a relatively good price. Of course the downside is export set but you saved a lot. The sound quality is amazing even though I’m not an audiophile.


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Bro desray
When did u collect Yr lx500?
Mine either today or Monday
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Gondon72 on June 28, 2019, 10:22
Poor thing to pioneer authorised dealers. Let this be a wake up call to you all.

Yeah..they are always sleeping. :D
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on June 28, 2019, 10:29
Bro desray
When did u collect Yr lx500?
Mine either today or Monday

I have been using it for coming to 4 mths already.



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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: sevenz on June 28, 2019, 10:47
I have been using it for coming to 4 mths already.



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OOo. nice... 4 months liao. How's it so far compared to the Panny players
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: comfortablynumb on June 28, 2019, 10:49
Sigh
Just called them and they said shipment delaued
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on June 28, 2019, 11:10
OOo. nice... 4 months liao. How's it so far compared to the Panny players

Sound Quality is one of the best I have heard so far. Very quiet operation and great PQ. But the user interface sucks big time. Tray open and close is very smooth but slow.


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: comfortablynumb on June 28, 2019, 13:01
I have been using it for coming to 4 mths already.

oh, am sure you gotten a better price than $1100 for the LX500
Now LX500 is $1200 and LX800 is $2200

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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: sevenz on June 28, 2019, 15:25
Sound Quality is one of the best I have heard so far. Very quiet operation and great PQ. But the user interface sucks big time. Tray open and close is very smooth but slow.


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Is the PQ comparable to panny's? :)
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on June 28, 2019, 15:29
Is the PQ comparable to panny's? :)

I will say 1080p and 4K HDR>SDR BT2020 conversion is negligible, in fact Pioneer is a tad sharper for normal 1080p. But Panny still reigns when it comes to full blown 4K HDR titles because of the HDR Optimiser.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: sevenz on June 28, 2019, 15:55
I like panny's HDR optimiser too. Really good.

Audio wise, I find panny's HT audio on the 420 have lots of room for improvement. Maybe the higher series' audio is better. 
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: mutant on June 28, 2019, 17:01
Sound Quality is one of the best I have heard so far. Very quiet operation and great PQ. But the user interface sucks big time. Tray open and close is very smooth but slow.


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Wah.. Sound quality as in thru HDMI or Coaxial / Optical?  :D
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on June 28, 2019, 17:03
Wah.. Sound quality as in thru HDMI or Coaxial / Optical?  :D

The former. Take note I am no audiophile though. Sound can be subjective.


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Gondon72 on June 29, 2019, 12:35

Just saw at courts selling $1799 and $2799 respectively. Only 1 set each. Still expensive compared to SLT.
Pioneer Sg released to them only a few units
I think less than 15 units
Title: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Boxerfan88 on June 29, 2019, 13:07
sound through hdmi can sound better meh? would it not be sound signature of the audio stream decoder (eg AVR)?


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on June 29, 2019, 13:17
sound through hdmi can sound better meh? would it not be sound signature of the audio stream decoder (eg AVR)?


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+1, same goes for a coaxial signal... the AVR, jitter, the cable etc all play a significant role..
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: comfortablynumb on June 29, 2019, 14:08
The lx800 has Xlr so SQ will b better via Xlr connection
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on June 29, 2019, 15:56


Pioneer pricing in Singapore is ludicrous. Really not worth paying so much for a local warranty set imo.



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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on June 29, 2019, 16:17
under 1.5k import from Germany... Region locked @ dvd/bd 2B though
http://hidden-audio.de/index.php/pioneer-udp-lx500-ultra-hd-blu-ray-player-mit-sacd-unterstuetzung.html
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on June 29, 2019, 18:06
Ok...Vincent Teoh's review on LX-500...always enjoy his dead-pan delivery of his "a-hem" joke. :P Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/v/ziTmN81IkPU&fs=1

For those who interested to know how the PQ compared with the Panny UB9000/820/420 (with HDR Optimizer). He also briefly touched on that as well. BTW he mentioned no difference between HDR10 and HDR10+, the latter supposed to rival Dolby Vision.

And yes, for those who really wanted to know how the sound of this LX-500 sound? Well, he says it all...So you'll know how the top-tiered flagship, the LX-800 will sound. :P
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on June 30, 2019, 13:06
well... AhTeoh‘s eyebrows oredi gives u a sneak preview of his test result... "u gain some,u lost some"
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: francis wu on July 02, 2019, 21:20
Have you got the right Blu-ray player? ;)
https://www.digitaltrends.com/home-theater/best-blu-ray-players/?rid=1&cid=eml-na-2582&CRMID=6005538771&XID=E:214965:S1L2X700
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on July 02, 2019, 22:29
3 Sony 1 LG 1 XBox?
seems very paid article ley。。。
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: comfortablynumb on July 02, 2019, 22:39
3 Sony 1 LG 1 XBox?
seems very paid article ley。。。

More like a joke to me.....
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: francis wu on July 02, 2019, 23:31
Think they discounted Panny and Pioneer because of their hi-end pricing vis a vis performance!! ???
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on July 02, 2019, 23:55
pioneer is too ex to be compared,yes。
Panasonic hv it's budget makes,so as Philips。
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on July 03, 2019, 07:37
More like a joke to me.....

LoL...the opening paragraph tells it all if we read carefully where is the "focus " of the review heading towards.

"We’ve been reviewing Blu-ray players for years, and we can say with confidence that Sony’s UBP-X700 is the best Blu-ray player for most people. We like that it combines superb picture quality with top-notch features, all for a very reasonable price"

BUT luckily the reviewer added the last piece of info, "...all for a very reasonable price."
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: ronildoq on July 03, 2019, 08:05
Sony with their flagship X1100 ES


https://www.soundandvision.com/content/sony-unveils-new-flagship-4k-blu-ray-player
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: comfortablynumb on July 03, 2019, 11:24
LX500/800 stocks are in later this afternoon.......Yes!!
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: mikeang88 on July 03, 2019, 12:07
After using the Xbox to play the UHD BR for months, finally got the LG970 from courts at Funan over the weekend at $99.

Hope it is an improvement over the xbox.

the only gripe with LG970 is the noise niah... otherwise,majority of others concern,small percentage of folks like me,concern of it's multi region playability with DVDs niah...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: wcseow on July 03, 2019, 14:07
After using the Xbox to play the UHD BR for months, finally got the LG970 from courts at Funan over the weekend at $99.

Hope it is an improvement over the xbox.


I have xbox and x700 but I find the x700 PQ and SQ  is better by a fair.bit.

Am thinking of getting one to replace the xbox as the x700 face freeze issues. Will be useful if i could pdate on PQ of LG over the xbox from ur perspective.

Thanks
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: comfortablynumb on July 03, 2019, 15:07
LX500/800 stocks are in later this afternoon.......Yes!!

Stocks in the shop on Friday   :(
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: DJQ on July 04, 2019, 15:46
https://www.sony.com/electronics/blu-ray-disc-players/ubp-x1100es

err. same chassis as the lower end models....
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on July 04, 2019, 16:04
(https://www.review33.com/news/av/2019/20190409015555_3.jpg)
https://www.review33.com/news/news.php?news_id=20190409015555

Machiam not much "vacant space" for internal hardware upgrades ley...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: desray on July 05, 2019, 06:32
Ok...Vincent Teoh's review on LX-500...always enjoy his dead-pan delivery of his "a-hem" joke. :P Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/v/ziTmN81IkPU&fs=1

For those who interested to know how the PQ compared with the Panny UB9000/820/420 (with HDR Optimizer). He also briefly touched on that as well. BTW he mentioned no difference between HDR10 and HDR10+, the latter supposed to rival Dolby Vision.

And yes, for those who really wanted to know how the sound of this LX-500 sound? Well, he says it all...So you'll know how the top-tiered flagship, the LX-800 will sound. :P

This is for those who are interested to find out when Pioneer will release the overdue HDR10+ firmware update. Well it’s going to be within the next 3 mths or so.

Here’s the official link:  https://www.pioneer-audiovisual.eu/uk/news/onkyo-pioneer-corp-announces-hdr10-firmware-update-udp-lx800-and-udp-lx500-universal-disc



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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: comfortablynumb on July 05, 2019, 06:44
Well at least it's coming......
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: petetherock on July 05, 2019, 06:49
I was hoping for some HDMI 2.1 players.. I’ll hang onto my existing players for a bit longer then
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: comfortablynumb on July 05, 2019, 20:03
Mission accomplished.....
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Gondon72 on July 05, 2019, 20:08
Mission accomplished.....

enjoying your new player?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: comfortablynumb on July 05, 2019, 21:54
They kept the last set for me cos all taken up when stocks arrived at t
enjoying your new player?
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enjoying your new player?

I was the last person to collect my set
all the lx800 came in today all gone

The stocks for lx500 got delayed and expected to be at the shop tmrw but all reserved

Am happy with the PQ and SQ
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: DJQ on July 06, 2019, 19:55
Yay. Good enjoy your new toys.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: comfortablynumb on July 06, 2019, 23:54
Yay. Good enjoy your new toys.

enjoying your new toy too?  ;p
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Pismo Mac on July 07, 2019, 01:14
Can anyone PM me the price of the LX800 from the SLT shop and the name of the shop?


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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: sevenz on July 07, 2019, 01:53
They kept the last set for me cos all taken up when stocks arrived at th
I was the last person to collect my set
all the lx800 came in today all gone

The stocks for lx500 got delayed and expected to be at the shop tmrw but all reserved

Am happy with the PQ and SQ

nice! Enjoy!
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: kikoman on July 07, 2019, 20:58
Where to get and how much is the Lx800?
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Count on July 15, 2019, 19:16
Do any of these new 4K players from Pioneer/Sony have subtitle shift function, like on the Oppo? Am using a scope screen so having that function is very useful indeed.
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on August 22, 2019, 18:32
Parallel importer brought in the GIEC 5300 UHD player to sell here. However the price...
(https://media.karousell.com/media/photos/products/2019/07/26/brand_new_giec_bdpg5300_true_region_free_4k_uhd_3d_player_supports_hdr10_and_dolby_vision_1564101350_a2cd6146_progressive.jpg)
...kinda RIP-OFF...
https://sg.carousell.com/p/brand-new-giec-bdp-g5300-true-region-free-4k-uhd-3d-player-supports-hdr10-and-dolby-vision-241989132/?ref=search&ref_query=giec&ref_referrer=%2Fsearch%2Fproducts%2F%3Fquery%3Dgiec&ref_reqId=QYpDXhWZnp3CkyEr8CVMuvbtqoKrp0hq
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on August 22, 2019, 18:57
Finally found one German E-tailer that ships PANASONIC UB9000* @ competitive price that ships to SG, with German TAX removal...
http://hidden-audio.de/index.php/panasonic-dp-ub9004-uhd-blu-ray-player-4k-hdr.html
Total under SGD$1.4k shipped.
*Region locked @ FHDBD-B/DVD-2
Price dropped!
With shipping to SG, now under SGD$1.35k! Or... SGD$1.3k~ish if EURO continues to drop...
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: Bieffe on September 07, 2019, 17:39
After using the Xbox to play the UHD BR for months, finally got the LG970 from courts at Funan over the weekend at $99.

Hope it is an improvement over the xbox.
99? Opening special only?

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Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: YANG on September 08, 2019, 22:29
those whom are still eyeing on entry lvl Sony x700 with local warranties,Mustafa offers this@$280
Title: Re: 4k Blu Ray Player Discussion Thread
Post by: HDTV_noobie on September 09, 2019, 02:04
Seems like amazon.co.uk also ships Panny UB9000 too:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Panasonic-DP-UB9000-Ultra-Blu-ray-Player/dp/B07JGZ8FVJ/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=ub9000&qid=1567965683&s=gateway&sr=8-1